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Speaker 1: Our community is struggling. My husband is on unemployment for

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Speaker 1: This is new because of the coronavirus. I am currently

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Speaker 1: the United States Ambassador of the Holy Seat. She's leading

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Speaker 1: the embassy and dealing with all the different changes being

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Speaker 1: brought about by the pandemic. To bring you this episod

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Speaker 1: this week, I'm recording from my home, so you may

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Speaker 1: notice a difference in audio quality on this episode of

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Speaker 1: News World. State governors and leaders of local municipalities are

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Speaker 1: trying to slow the spot of COVID nineteen, but many

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Speaker 1: of these elected officials are using COVID nineteen to put

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Speaker 1: orders into place that make absolutely no sense, and some

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Speaker 1: that even oppose our constitutional rights. As Americans who will

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Speaker 1: look at these insane orders around the country. One of

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Speaker 1: the side effects of dealing with the coronavirus pandemic has

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Speaker 1: been the nature of some politicians to take power and

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Speaker 1: kind of run amok. I've always believed that Lord Acton

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Speaker 1: notion that you lose all connection with reality. You begin

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Speaker 1: to believe that you somehow have a godlike capacity to

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Speaker 1: show up quite so quickly. We have a number of

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Speaker 1: politicians who are living out Acting's warning, and who mostly

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Speaker 1: you have this pattern of people who believe that they

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Speaker 1: Clinton who described Trump's supporters those deplorables. Well, if you're

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Speaker 1: When the governor who's brilliant by definition, and is reminded

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Speaker 1: every day how they are by their paid staff and

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Speaker 1: save the deplorable from the problem of having to make

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Speaker 1: what we talked about reopening things. Part of it's going

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Speaker 1: to be rolling back government where they've just grab power

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Speaker 1: in ways that are so stupid that they almost I

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Speaker 1: think the average American vindicate every contempt you've ever had

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Speaker 1: for government. So Governor Whitmer, who's a sort of case

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Speaker 1: study and uninformed arrogance, signed an executive order in April

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Speaker 1: Why she thinks that furniture has anything to do with

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Speaker 1: Your grocery stores will remain open. Your pharmacy it will

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Speaker 1: It has to do with petty bureaucrats and petty politicians.

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