Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney Thorn Smith.
Speaker 2: And Daphne's Aniga an iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3: We have a very exciting Still the Place.
Speaker 1: We have Rob Esties, who's so raring to go that
Speaker 1: he didn't even wait to be introduced.
Speaker 3: Well, we're so excited.
Speaker 4: It does show that we've been talking for a few minutes.
Speaker 5: Until a nice cold open.
Speaker 1: I couldn't stop them from chatting. They it's all gone
Speaker 1: now we're just considering stery.
Speaker 6: Chest introduced him that guys, you remember him as Kyle
Speaker 6: McBride after five, six and seven of Meller's Place, after
Speaker 6: playing another character in season.
Speaker 7: I think few people that have done two characters.
Speaker 1: Different character yes, address.
Speaker 7: No, they never did.
Speaker 6: They never did well, they waited a while right between seasons.
Speaker 5: Was like, yeah, it was there was.
Speaker 7: A good I actually did a pilot for Aaron and
Speaker 7: when it didn't get picked up, he said, hey, do
Speaker 7: you want to come do the this is going to
Speaker 7: be on for thirty however many and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 7: I like to come do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah great, And it was such a different show. Like
Speaker 1: I was struck because we watched you. We covered the
Speaker 1: first season and then I just watched your first few
Speaker 1: episodes in season five, the show was so different show.
Speaker 5: You think you were going to be on the same show?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I think it was
Speaker 7: you know, they, I think, I think Chuck and they
Speaker 7: took the temperature of what was working what wasn't, and
Speaker 7: they realized that what they had wasn't and and by
Speaker 7: the time I got there, it had switched the full
Speaker 7: blown you know.
Speaker 5: Well, I think they, you know, because we were all
Speaker 5: there in the beginning. I think it was working very well,
Speaker 5: Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Starting disagree, No, I think the ratings weren't there right,
Speaker 2: and then it was thirty years ago, doesn't matter, but
Speaker 2: it doesn't and three was the highest ever.
Speaker 1: Okay, no, but season one wasn't working.
Speaker 7: Right, Yes, oh no, No. Wednesday fixed season one for sure,
Speaker 7: And I guess, I mean, my role on it was nothing.
Speaker 7: I was an architect and I was I think I
Speaker 7: went out with James.
Speaker 5: You didn't go out. We just watched. You made a
Speaker 5: move on her.
Speaker 6: You were she married, yes, by the way, you were
Speaker 6: Michael's best man or something, and she did kiss you back.
Speaker 7: I was Michael's best by the way.
Speaker 6: Something like best friend. And then you came into town.
Speaker 6: Robb you across the line.
Speaker 5: You and Josie were in real life weds. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: just gotten married.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well no, actually we know. Yeah, she got it.
Speaker 7: She got Melrose and we had a wedding on Sunday
Speaker 7: and she started on Monday.
Speaker 2: Yes, because this was like episode twenty four or five,
Speaker 2: and so it was within the year you were.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was interesting too. I mean I kind of
Speaker 7: had a I had a front row seat of watching
Speaker 7: what happened when you were on in Melrow. Oh that
Speaker 7: think blew up, right, it did.
Speaker 1: I remember a very slow start and then it blew up.
Speaker 7: But Aaron had that you guys did so much press
Speaker 7: in the beginning, that's true, right, I mean you guys
Speaker 7: did like two days in the studio and all kinds
Speaker 7: of stuff. So when it rolled out, it was already
Speaker 7: huge news and he kind of was a gorilla on Fox,
Speaker 7: so it just had traction right away.
Speaker 1: Well no, not right away.
Speaker 2: This is that court and he was talking about because
Speaker 2: she was on from day one. So there was a
Speaker 2: big launch and then everything fizzled out. The ratings weren't there,
Speaker 2: the audience wasn't there, and then we did another big
Speaker 2: launch the beginning of season two basically came.
Speaker 7: On was she season two?
Speaker 1: She was the end of season one and she was
Speaker 1: gonna do four episodes, and then they realized that, oh,
Speaker 1: these romances, and then it became just three storylines of
Speaker 1: people making out, no switch beds rooms. We jumped up
Speaker 1: to season five. I'm like, Jake is dating, but but
Speaker 1: Jane is upset about it, and he'd been like what happened.
Speaker 6: There's it changes so much because our recap first still
Speaker 6: the place. We're recapping every episode in order, so we're
Speaker 6: still working our way through season when we're trying to
Speaker 6: prevent ourselves from looking too far ahead. But because we're
Speaker 6: prepping to see you and your character comes in season five,
Speaker 6: we saw some episodes it was very jarring for us
Speaker 6: to go, wait, these storylines are completely.
Speaker 2: As Sam, your first character that you probably don't even remember,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: That was that was one of the few key moments.
Speaker 2: That was right at the time where they were turning
Speaker 2: the show into the Melrose that we all know and love.
Speaker 5: So you hitting on.
Speaker 2: Your best friend's wife, your real life wife, Josie.
Speaker 5: That was like a moment we're starting to turn.
Speaker 2: We're noticing that like the end of season one, things
Speaker 2: are bad behaviors and stuff like that.
Speaker 7: It's starting to hit you were really a part of that.
Speaker 7: Yeah good, I'm glad that I was a part of
Speaker 7: the switch of the heart of the show.
Speaker 6: So wait, when you came in as Kyle McBride in
Speaker 6: season five, did you? I'm assuming they just offered it
Speaker 6: to you. They said, here's this character we have in mind, and.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I done. I just left the show Show Show
Speaker 7: Silk Stockings, and then I had to deal with Stephen
Speaker 7: Cannell and we were going to produce something, but he
Speaker 7: wanted me to move to Vancouver and in the midnight hour,
Speaker 7: I said I can't move and he kind of went, what,
Speaker 7: like like, I can't, I can't. I can't do that.
Speaker 7: So I ended up auditioning for a thing called heart
Speaker 7: Attack and Vine, which was Aaron show. It was with
Speaker 7: Adrian Brody, me Heather Graham was a blind girl, Guy
Speaker 7: Leon and the director of Rudy directed it. And it
Speaker 7: was horrible. I mean, it was great. The script was unbelievable.
Speaker 7: It was so good, but it just didn't work at
Speaker 7: the end of the day. And it's interesting because it
Speaker 7: was it was very it was kind of hard hitting
Speaker 7: for TV at that time, you know, to have one
Speaker 7: of your leads be a blind girl and a snitch
Speaker 7: and it's all all in Hollywood, kind of a blind
Speaker 7: underbelly of a blind Now Adreen was blind and his
Speaker 7: girlfriend was Heather Graham, okay, And I think I think
Speaker 7: Aaron wasn't ready to let go of letting something be
Speaker 7: a little hard, harder hitting, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: And I just think ultimately it couldn't work itself out.
Speaker 7: But it was a great idea. So the day it
Speaker 7: got canceled, he called me and he said, yeah, they
Speaker 7: canceled it, but you know, do you want to you
Speaker 7: want to come and do Melrose?
Speaker 5: And did he say as a guest star or a couple?
Speaker 7: He said, I'll give you twenty two okay, two episodes
Speaker 7: and then just kind of went from there.
Speaker 5: And your wife was on it, so you started going.
Speaker 6: And this was also the time when season five, the
Speaker 6: regular contracts of the original characters those were winding down,
Speaker 6: and so I think they were doing a lot of
Speaker 6: new characters coming in with the intent that you would
Speaker 6: stay on and maybe take over if if other contracts
Speaker 6: changed and whatever.
Speaker 5: And so you know, you're perfectly positioned.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean roll in and you stayed till the end.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, stayed till the end.
Speaker 1: Were we nice to you?
Speaker 7: You guys are awesome?
Speaker 5: Oh thank god?
Speaker 1: Can you imagine.
Speaker 7: Everybody but everybody.
Speaker 2: That you was great, like the nicest person on set
Speaker 2: to you, I wouldn't even imagine that.
Speaker 7: I mean, that was that was one of the Laura
Speaker 7: and I were talking for a second about that. I
Speaker 7: think that's one of the interesting things is that, at
Speaker 7: least from my experience, and I know we all have
Speaker 7: different experiences, but there weren't bad apples. Everybody got along
Speaker 7: and not that there weren't issues. If you're going to
Speaker 7: spend twelve hours a day with people, there will be issued,
Speaker 7: but totally well. And then you know, as some of
Speaker 7: the ensemble players left and new people came in, it's
Speaker 7: still kind of held its own, Like he didn't seem
Speaker 7: to bring in bad apples, and then anybody who didn't work,
Speaker 7: you know, it was a big enough cash that they
Speaker 7: kind of.
Speaker 2: That didn't work within the within the within or if
Speaker 2: he had any issues with anyone.
Speaker 7: Yeah, within the group, you know, which was fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one thing we learned with Chuck here is
Speaker 2: that we're basically all dispensable.
Speaker 5: Cost too much? That was his thing. If you cost
Speaker 5: too much.
Speaker 7: And how much you know, how many, how many different
Speaker 7: things can happen to a character?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I was going to ask you, do you
Speaker 1: remember a storyline like your crazy storyline or something where
Speaker 1: you read it and you're.
Speaker 7: Like, oh no, no, but I remember. I remember my
Speaker 7: favorite storyline for me, and that was when I got
Speaker 7: you know, Kyle got hooked on drugs and alcohol and
Speaker 7: you know, ended up burning down Amanda's dream house. And
Speaker 7: that was fun because and I directed that episode. It
Speaker 7: was great terms of because when you direct stuff, you
Speaker 7: know you you know, you you're setting up camera angles
Speaker 7: and moves and sometimes an actor will go, yeah, no,
Speaker 7: that doesn't work for me right, and direct you're like,
Speaker 7: oh shit, I just okay, So then how okay, you
Speaker 7: know I got to switch this around in that around
Speaker 7: so I could make.
Speaker 6: You can consult with the actor like is it gonna
Speaker 6: work for me? Yes, it is, okay, I'll direct that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly right. I could have a conversation with myself
Speaker 7: and go, okay, that works, So I know I can
Speaker 7: make that move. I know that's my I know that's
Speaker 7: my master. So that was fun.
Speaker 1: I can't believe to let you do a stunt like that.
Speaker 1: That's amazing.
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I was a stunt man. So oh you
Speaker 7: were doesn't that sound.
Speaker 5: Drop that a model or were you an athlete?
Speaker 7: I was never. I tried to be a model. I
Speaker 7: did it one day and I horrible at it.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're in the Model stunt Man. I like it. Now,
Speaker 1: that's a series. He was.
Speaker 5: Models Successfu.
Speaker 1: I'm writing it right now.
Speaker 7: Yeah. But yeah, so I got to do a lot
Speaker 7: of my own fights and stuff in.
Speaker 5: What where were you stunt?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 7: So there's a guy Hubey Kerkins who was Batman's stunt
Speaker 7: double forever, right, and not Today's Batman but Yesterday's Batman,
Speaker 7: and he had a school. So when I was a
Speaker 7: senior in high school, my best friend, his dad was
Speaker 7: a stuntman, and you know, we used to mess around
Speaker 7: and fight and play and I just thought it was cool.
Speaker 5: So you grew up here then this sounds like a Hollywood.
Speaker 7: Ish Yeah, I moved. I moved to California when I
Speaker 7: was in fifth grade. Okay, So you know we went
Speaker 7: to stunt school and you know, four days a week fought,
Speaker 7: crash cars, got set on it. It was the best.
Speaker 7: But it's tough. Life's being a stuntman unless you're you know,
Speaker 7: now an X Games guy, unless you can do things
Speaker 7: that nobody else can do, it's tough.
Speaker 5: Did you get injuries at all?
Speaker 7: My ear drum twice? I think, you know, little cuts and.
Speaker 1: Bruises because actors just hit you.
Speaker 7: No. Actually, what we're doing high falls, and part of
Speaker 7: being a stunt man is you're also on safety cruise,
Speaker 7: so you you know, you set up these you know,
Speaker 7: air bags and the air bay air bag. If you
Speaker 7: fall and hit the air bag and you fall off,
Speaker 7: you have people around it to protect you. And some
Speaker 7: guy landed weird and he came up and his heel
Speaker 7: came around and landed in my ear and he was like, okay,
Speaker 7: I'm I'm out and I can't hear.
Speaker 2: So did the other one and someone then give you
Speaker 2: an opportunity to be in front of the camera or
Speaker 2: what did you do in between this?
Speaker 7: No? I never I left, like you know, at some point,
Speaker 7: I think it was like I was out of high school.
Speaker 7: I was working at GTE which used to exist the
Speaker 7: phone company, the old phone Yeah, and doing stunts and
Speaker 7: they're like, you know what, sometimes they like you to,
Speaker 7: you know, do lines in front of the camera, you know.
Speaker 7: And I was like, do lines in front.
Speaker 4: Of Yeah, yeah, there's another way to say.
Speaker 7: I want you to do you know, say lines? How
Speaker 7: you know you do it? It's an end of a
Speaker 7: scene and then you fall, you get hit, and I
Speaker 7: was like, oh, So we worked on a scene and
Speaker 7: I just thought it. I was like, this is great.
Speaker 1: So that was the first time ever thought of acting ever.
Speaker 5: Wow?
Speaker 2: And so what was your first Sean?
Speaker 7: Was there Amelio Charlie Sheen high school?
Speaker 4: So what was your first acting?
Speaker 7: I got my sag card as a breakdancer on a
Speaker 7: May Company commercial.
Speaker 4: Well, of course you did find that anywhere.
Speaker 7: This lady comes up and she goes, can you come
Speaker 7: in an audition for a May Company commercial? And I
Speaker 7: was like okay, And.
Speaker 1: I went in an auditioned and it's in my private apartment,
Speaker 1: the cast.
Speaker 5: Dancing stunt man.
Speaker 7: So that's how I got my sad card. In the
Speaker 7: Dave Michael Jackson's hair caught on fire on that side,
Speaker 7: I wasn't at the shrine, but we were. They were
Speaker 7: doing Pepsi and slice. Remember slice, Yes, and I was
Speaker 7: on the board walk. I was, you know, in Venice breakdancing,
Speaker 7: and everybody started freaking out and I was like, what's happening.
Speaker 7: There's been an injury at the shrine and they literally
Speaker 7: closed everything down. I was like, okay, so anyway, but
Speaker 7: that's that was kind of how I got in. And
Speaker 7: then dancing took me to Days of Our Lives. Oh
Speaker 7: for two episodes, and then it was a year and
Speaker 7: a half, So I think that's kind of.
Speaker 1: Where a year and a half on days on days yeah, okay.
Speaker 6: And that we were just talking with Jack Wagner about
Speaker 6: what a great training ground the soap opera was because
Speaker 6: you have to go so fast and do so many episodes.
Speaker 4: There's no way not although I feel.
Speaker 7: Like, at least for me, I feel when you're learning
Speaker 7: lines that fast, it becomes about knowing the lines. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. And it's like you kind
Speaker 7: of all into these tricks of okay, I got this,
Speaker 7: yeah right, and then all of a sudden, you're you know,
Speaker 7: you I watched some scenes, like I watched the Little
Speaker 7: Mountain space and I just, oh, oh my god, I
Speaker 7: felt so stiff. And you look at it and you
Speaker 7: thought you were doing all these things. You go, I
Speaker 7: wasn't what I mean yeah or yeah right? I have
Speaker 7: you ever done a scene and you go, oh my gosh,
Speaker 7: I'm not that was great and then you watch it
Speaker 7: and you go, that was just like all the other
Speaker 7: fifteen scenes too.
Speaker 1: And we did it. So it started and I was
Speaker 1: the only one of us who was on it, and
Speaker 1: they were like, don't be so hard on ourself because
Speaker 1: like find a layer, find a layers, like Everason, it
Speaker 1: was I made one choice and just had that one
Speaker 1: choice for all the scene and something like the whole episode.
Speaker 1: I had one choice for the whole episode.
Speaker 3: But we're seeing it evolved.
Speaker 1: But we were so young, like you really have to
Speaker 1: kind of give ourselves a break and go. I don't
Speaker 1: even know how complicated I could have been, Like maybe
Speaker 1: that was maybe that was how I moved through my life.
Speaker 1: Maybe I had the one note.
Speaker 7: Well and everything so quick. I mean, well, you know,
Speaker 7: you spend fifty to three hundred grand day, you gotta go,
Speaker 7: it's just a different.
Speaker 6: Baby.
Speaker 3: But we don't know.
Speaker 1: Like we were, we were nervous, right, you're learning, you're
Speaker 1: trying to make a good choice. You have to relax
Speaker 1: to let it sort of flow up and down. But
Speaker 1: you'll see, like if you watch later episodes, I promise you,
Speaker 1: you'll see yourself relaxed and more layers will come in
Speaker 1: and you go, oh, that was actually interesting that thing
Speaker 1: that happened there.
Speaker 7: It's funny because the review and I can't whenever I
Speaker 7: watch stuff. You guys all seem natural in the flow, right,
Speaker 7: So I think for I think, I think part of
Speaker 7: at least for me, is like, you know, we're our
Speaker 7: worst critic.
Speaker 3: Absolutely watch ourselves.
Speaker 7: It's used to crack my ass.
Speaker 5: Let's hear it.
Speaker 7: So we have at the beginning, we had, you know,
Speaker 7: and but I would get the giggles. So you were
Speaker 7: I think you were the it there and oh my god.
Speaker 6: We also like I was watching just because I watched
Speaker 6: these episodes where you come in right, it was like
Speaker 6: this just flash in time about like, oh my god,
Speaker 6: but I.
Speaker 4: Here's this weird situation.
Speaker 6: I'm good friends with Josie who is playing my sister,
Speaker 6: and she's married to you, and here you come in,
Speaker 6: and then my character's supposed to like have this like
Speaker 6: I'm sort of like mooning.
Speaker 4: Over you and like you're out of my league.
Speaker 5: But whatever.
Speaker 4: So and we were just goofing.
Speaker 6: We were friends, right, And then meanwhile in real life,
Speaker 6: I'm dating Grant in real life, and Joseph's got some
Speaker 6: obsession with Grant now with Courtney, and like, but Alison
Speaker 6: and all in this one episode of this one stretch
Speaker 6: of time that I'm watching, I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 6: And now and then Alison's relationship with Billy is still
Speaker 6: sort of like sense because like they still have a
Speaker 6: thing for each other and they dated in real life.
Speaker 6: And then I'm watching like a Jack Wagner and Heather
Speaker 6: on screen and they ultimately end up in a relationship.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, No.
Speaker 6: Wonder people talk about this. Melou's places like didn't like
Speaker 6: this crazy must have.
Speaker 5: Happened from the outside. Inside it was like, oh.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can see why people really thought. But like
Speaker 6: we all managed to come out of this crazy like
Speaker 6: overlapping situation like everything was fine, like it was fiction?
Speaker 3: But was it?
Speaker 6: Did we It's like we started as friends and when
Speaker 6: we had these storylines to play, and I remember we
Speaker 6: just goofed around until action. But watching the episode I'm watching,
Speaker 6: you're perfectly like poised and together and you're just playing
Speaker 6: your character I'm like, we were just laughing, and I
Speaker 6: feel like I'm still sort of giggling through the scene.
Speaker 5: So you remember that, Robbie remember her? Oh, we were
Speaker 5: just messing.
Speaker 7: I remember the relationship in terms of what was written.
Speaker 7: I just remember you having so much fun. And I
Speaker 7: was doing a play at one point and I had
Speaker 7: to have an Italian accent, and do you remember I
Speaker 7: annoyed the ship out of the crew and you were
Speaker 7: part of it. So yeah, because no way for me,
Speaker 7: and you in a perfect accent back and I was like,
Speaker 7: oh my god. So I remember. I remember walking up
Speaker 7: I remember walking up the stairs and walking the balcony
Speaker 7: and turning it down to you. People must have been like.
Speaker 5: Is this in between shots?
Speaker 8: I was like, on set, things go and there was
Speaker 8: It was just perfect, hilarious.
Speaker 7: You guys are so yeah. Everybody. So many people were like.
Speaker 5: And then it's.
Speaker 4: Rolling and you're like, yeah, and my character was such awe.
Speaker 7: I don't know. Do you remember like two in the
Speaker 7: morning at Kyle's place and I don't know if it
Speaker 7: was us. I think it was us, But it's like
Speaker 7: things are running late right Saturday night. Everybody wants to
Speaker 7: go home. We're doing a scene and we started laughing
Speaker 7: and couldn't do the dialogue. And it went on. It
Speaker 7: was like five and people were so pissed. And it
Speaker 7: was that laugh where you get sweaty. For me, every
Speaker 7: time I looked in your eyes, I would start laughing again.
Speaker 3: That was a problem.
Speaker 6: And I guess you know what, now that you mentioned this,
Speaker 6: I think I am to blame for all of this
Speaker 6: because I right, like, stop.
Speaker 4: Am I a common denominator and problem?
Speaker 7: I think you were the problem.
Speaker 5: And everybody.
Speaker 7: But it was a great problem. I mean, if you
Speaker 7: can go to work and have laughs like that, yeah,
Speaker 7: it's good.
Speaker 4: It's like trying to stop laughing in church likes.
Speaker 5: So yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Also we're outside of you guys ruining everything by laughing.
Speaker 1: For cakes. It ran like top like by the time
Speaker 1: we were in season five, like they could tell you
Speaker 1: you'll be here at this time and you were on
Speaker 1: set within like twenty minutes, which is so rare, Like
Speaker 1: they ran it. They knew when you'd get there and
Speaker 1: we would leave, how long stuff would take. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: really weird. There's no It was Harry. Yeah, Harry said.
Speaker 5: Harry and his minions.
Speaker 1: Everybody was just remember his fart machine.
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, you walk on the hall and you'd be like,
Speaker 7: was that and it was him following people around with
Speaker 7: his fart machine? Yeah, which I fully appreciated. Yeah, but
Speaker 7: I think you need that, Yes, right, you have to
Speaker 7: because we're as lucky, you know, we are to have
Speaker 7: had that the luck to be and that was amazing.
Speaker 2: And you're working and especially with the storyline that you're
Speaker 2: having to learn and then say and act out, and
Speaker 2: every time the camera's rolling, it's like all this serious,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like all the serious like betrayals and
Speaker 2: stuff going on.
Speaker 5: You do need that, specifically on a show like that,
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 6: So do you feel like now, I mean, thirty five
Speaker 6: years of past scary to say, but like what roles
Speaker 6: or what characters do you feel like people associate you with?
Speaker 7: Oh man, that's a good question. I think Kyle McBride
Speaker 7: a lot, you mean specifically from the work that I've done. Yeah,
Speaker 7: just like yeah, probably crys Lorenzo a lot. I mean
Speaker 7: from silk Stocking. It was before cable TV existed, and
Speaker 7: when cable no I'm sorry it wasn't. It was a
Speaker 7: CBS had a cable channel early on, and they did
Speaker 7: this thing called crime Time after primetime, and at some
Speaker 7: point it had a pretty big underground following, and Jeff
Speaker 7: Skansky said, you know what, we should put this on
Speaker 7: primetime and no, Aaron Spelling did and they talked about
Speaker 7: it in the midnight hour. They backed out because they said,
Speaker 7: if a network TV does a deal with cable, it
Speaker 7: will look horrible. And then HBO shows up, like all
Speaker 7: these real cable shows show up, and it would have
Speaker 7: been a home run. And he didn't do it. But so,
Speaker 7: long story short, Cris Lorenzo, I think for me, and
Speaker 7: that was.
Speaker 4: Also like a two that was a two character lead show.
Speaker 7: So yeah, it was show just the two of you to.
Speaker 4: Then a larger ensemble.
Speaker 7: Who was the co star on Mitchie Capture? She was great.
Speaker 7: We shot in San Diego for no money.
Speaker 5: And that wasn't wasn't that like a sexy thing?
Speaker 6: It was?
Speaker 7: It was Crimes of Passion.
Speaker 6: Okay, So so crimes in Lingerie a lot, right, I know.
Speaker 7: If they made that, I probably here's the Lingerie detectics.
Speaker 1: So after year five when so many original cast members left, Yeah,
Speaker 1: did six feel different or did you notice anything?
Speaker 7: I mean, honestly, no, it was wow. No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: That's how much you missed us, Laura.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not at all.
Speaker 3: Honestly, I guess.
Speaker 4: After five.
Speaker 7: Yeah, five, because you came on your one.
Speaker 4: As a guest and then two as a regular.
Speaker 7: Got it.
Speaker 1: Let me rephrase my question. Did you notice when we left?
Speaker 3: I guess that's a real question.
Speaker 4: Does it even matter to you?
Speaker 5: You remember? Everyone was like one.
Speaker 1: Of those things like did the party go on after
Speaker 1: I left?
Speaker 7: Yeah? I feel like, don't you feel like, especially with television? Well,
Speaker 7: I guess both. But you know, you're working long days
Speaker 7: and when when somebody leaves or you leave and you
Speaker 7: move on to another show, there's no time like to
Speaker 7: I really hang out with anybody after you know, I
Speaker 7: moved down to other shows? Yeah? No, or I did?
Speaker 7: Yeah in terms of focus going somewhere else, yeah, right,
Speaker 7: because you left and you went to allen Field. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and you guys must have had crazy days.
Speaker 1: Longer hours.
Speaker 5: Yeah, did you miss those? Courtney?
Speaker 7: Did you missus?
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure who you guys are, right, I
Speaker 1: have you vaguely familiar? I feel like you were on
Speaker 1: something in the eighties. Maybe I'm not sure.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 6: Laura, what did you go to after I went to
Speaker 6: I don't know, I bounced around for a bit and
Speaker 6: I got married after the show and sort of did
Speaker 6: a lot of parenting sort of. That was my vie
Speaker 6: for a while, and then I was Pretty Little Liars
Speaker 6: was my Yeah, jump Ahead, and Kelly was on that too, right, RUTHERFS.
Speaker 7: Not.
Speaker 6: Girls, Gossip Girl, and and Doug was doing Housewives and
Speaker 6: those in between. But and then you had like a
Speaker 6: series of movies and stuff that you've done too, Like, right,
Speaker 6: haven't you had?
Speaker 7: I mean since I did. I just did the After series.
Speaker 7: I got a movie that comes out on Prime tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Yes, well we're going to talk about that.
Speaker 2: So that's called let me just because I watched your
Speaker 2: teaser and I have a couple of questions because.
Speaker 5: It's called The Italians.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I saw the teaser and I recognize Michelle Danner,
Speaker 2: who I knew from Larry Moss's class when I was
Speaker 2: in Larry's class and she was his assistant and then
Speaker 2: took some classes and then I think directing, and I've
Speaker 2: seen her that she's done a couple of movies. So
Speaker 2: my question is, were you in a class that she
Speaker 2: cast from?
Speaker 7: There? So we did?
Speaker 5: How did you get into it.
Speaker 7: When Lauren and I were on set doing the Italian
Speaker 7: I was doing a play with her okay at the
Speaker 7: Hudson in Santa Monica. Okay, and Larry directed it with
Speaker 7: a lady devil Levine.
Speaker 5: Okay, what was that called?
Speaker 7: It was called? It was? It was Tennessee Williams Roase tattoo. Oh,
Speaker 7: I remember it. Yeah, I remember that almost a year.
Speaker 5: I remember that. Did you do it for a year?
Speaker 7: Did it for a year? Wow?
Speaker 3: And playing?
Speaker 5: So you became married.
Speaker 7: But they were so, I mean they were they helped me.
Speaker 2: Still, that's an extraordinary So you became good friends with
Speaker 2: Michelle then you.
Speaker 7: Were there was a there was We did that. Then
Speaker 7: we did another movie with Jason Alexander, Ron Pearlman, Kimberly Williams.
Speaker 7: What's the name of it?
Speaker 5: This is the person we know. We can't remember stuff if.
Speaker 7: This is how to go out? And the date in
Speaker 7: Queens is what it was? Nice? Which was it one
Speaker 7: act play? First? Yeah, she's directing big movies now, Yeah,
Speaker 7: built it up. She's got another one under the Stars
Speaker 7: with Andy Garcia and Tony Collette that that I'm in
Speaker 7: that'll come out later this year.
Speaker 5: Fantastic she's doing it.
Speaker 7: She built it.
Speaker 2: So is there still a class going on? I know
Speaker 2: that Larry does workshops now, and.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Larry just does the workshops. I think got any work.
Speaker 5: She does? She have a class?
Speaker 7: She can't class she does? Okay, he does a class
Speaker 7: on culver.
Speaker 5: So did she write this? And also Abigail Breslin's in it?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 5: From Sunshine.
Speaker 7: She doesn't Abigail Bresling. It's Michelle. It's Matt Dedario, who's great.
Speaker 7: He's so good in this. I was like, wow, Michelle.
Speaker 5: Was she from class?
Speaker 7: He came in and auditioned and he was great and
Speaker 7: he's perfect. And Leany Kazan is just she steals it.
Speaker 5: I remember her from the day.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 5: I remember her in that circle of friends. But so
Speaker 5: where did you shoot it? And what is it about?
Speaker 7: So we shot it actually during the strike in l A.
Speaker 7: So we got we're supposed to be shooting hard to
Speaker 7: get again?
Speaker 5: Was it not SAG?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was sad, But SAG gave out a number
Speaker 7: of waivers if your contract agreed with everything they wanted
Speaker 7: from the producer. Okay, right, he's kind of the reshaping
Speaker 7: of what we're all agreeing to now. And we do.
Speaker 7: I remember that, you know. The waivers were kind of
Speaker 7: the front end of that. Okay, so we shot it
Speaker 7: here and it's just it's a it's a family comedy.
Speaker 5: It looked fun.
Speaker 7: It's so fun. Yeah, you family about a kid bringing
Speaker 7: his girlfriend home to meet his mother and the mother
Speaker 7: hates her, and it's just you're like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 7: and you just see yourself in it. And it's based
Speaker 7: around really good food. Yeah, you eat my god. Well
Speaker 7: it's funny because you know, I'm this pig in it
Speaker 7: and I don't ever stop eating. And before we shot it,
Speaker 7: I lost I lost like fifteen pounds because I wanted
Speaker 7: to be that, you know, that skinny guy that can
Speaker 7: eat anything, can eat anything, he never gains weight, falls
Speaker 7: in love with the woman who can cook. That's the relationship.
Speaker 7: Oh No, it was funny and he's kind of you know, they.
Speaker 1: Shooting order so you could gain weight to long man.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't gain it back. Well, I guess I
Speaker 7: did gain it back, but it was fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Time, and was it like a few weeks.
Speaker 7: Shoot, we did it in twenty six days.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 7: It seems to be everything now, even the other one
Speaker 7: under the stars. We shot in Rome and Kublia and
Speaker 7: we shot that in about I think thirty two days. Wow,
Speaker 7: that's just now. Yeah, you know, get two or three cameras.
Speaker 5: Oh, let's just.
Speaker 1: Talk to somebody on the last thing I did. And
Speaker 1: I was like, it feels dark in here, and he said,
Speaker 1: are we can adjust all that later? Like when you're
Speaker 1: digitally remember lighting had to be perfect? Is you just
Speaker 1: feelb to adjust a tiny bit. Now you can adjust
Speaker 1: so much so they can go so much faster. Aren't
Speaker 1: you surprised? Like you go to sit down like ready,
Speaker 1: go to sit ready?
Speaker 3: Good enough?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like doing TV totally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's back again.
Speaker 5: It's camera.
Speaker 7: Yeah, now I do. I don't think I did back
Speaker 7: in the day because I always wanted another take. I
Speaker 7: was like, I can do that better. You know that, young,
Speaker 7: I know I can do this better. And then you
Speaker 7: do four more times and it's exactly.
Speaker 5: Do you remember that.
Speaker 7: Start giving the directors let him do one more Yeah,
Speaker 7: and you're like, but then you start to trust yourself.
Speaker 7: And it's when you start to trust yourself that you
Speaker 7: get better.
Speaker 2: It's so like it, you know, and also you know
Speaker 2: you're reminding me because I directed a film for lifetime.
Speaker 5: And I remember I had this great.
Speaker 2: Actor and he felt that he never got to it
Speaker 2: because when we were running it and rehearsing it, it
Speaker 2: was so poignant and so lovely.
Speaker 5: And he felt like you never got there. And I
Speaker 5: recognized his that horrible feeling because you're ready to move on.
Speaker 5: But the crew is, you know, the the users like
Speaker 5: let's go Daphne.
Speaker 2: And but she got something lovely, more subtle, and I
Speaker 2: was already I could see from this side that it
Speaker 2: was going to work probably better because that sweet spot
Speaker 2: of the.
Speaker 5: Drama he didn't get it in, but the.
Speaker 2: Subtlety he was going to work with, the mood on
Speaker 2: the script that he couldn't feel it.
Speaker 5: So I was like, please trust me. This is working
Speaker 5: actually better.
Speaker 7: So that's a good director.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I could feel his I totally fell for
Speaker 2: him as an actor.
Speaker 5: You know, I totally know where you are.
Speaker 2: If I ever act again, I'm gonna be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I gotta trust this guy. Uh.
Speaker 1: Well, that was nice of being directed by actors.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Oh I love it.
Speaker 1: Do you still direct?
Speaker 7: No? I haven't. I did.
Speaker 1: No, No, would you like to?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Maybe at some point at some point. Yeah, teach
Speaker 7: acting down in Orange County, like young young, like high school?
Speaker 7: How is that up to college? So that's fun just
Speaker 7: to do it and work with these kids who there's
Speaker 7: so much talent right now, un believable.
Speaker 1: What do you think different?
Speaker 7: It does feel different. So many kids can sing and
Speaker 7: dance and act. Oh right, and I see it on TV.
Speaker 7: You watch shows and you know somebody you'll break in
Speaker 7: the song and you'll be like, like.
Speaker 6: Rightly, so many I wouldn't call it that anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 4: There was a day when I could do all those things.
Speaker 5: But you know, it's a muscle.
Speaker 4: If you don't exercise, it atrophies.
Speaker 6: But like I think that, like just young people have
Speaker 6: so many ways to create, but their their craft out there,
Speaker 6: and so I think that's you know, that's just a
Speaker 6: different world.
Speaker 5: We didn't have that.
Speaker 4: We had to do the audition, We had to be discovered,
Speaker 4: we had to be found, you know, but they can.
Speaker 4: It was right out there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a very different time in that. But I
Speaker 7: watch it's it's it's interesting to watch people with TikTok
Speaker 7: or YouTube. Well there you know I have I'll have
Speaker 7: a conversation with somebody who's learning how to act or
Speaker 7: it's the beginning and they're like, well, I'm thinking about
Speaker 7: my brand.
Speaker 5: I'm like, wow, yeah, I think that create about your brand.
Speaker 7: Well, I think I want to be like this. And
Speaker 7: I'm like, let's why don't you lay the foundation first
Speaker 7: and see where you are, you know when when you're
Speaker 7: get really good at your craft. And I'm not saying
Speaker 7: it like that, but it's just interesting how I think
Speaker 7: being able to send it out there. And I've seen
Speaker 7: a lot of them send stuff out there that they
Speaker 7: would never get work from, and it's already out there.
Speaker 5: Larry Moss would.
Speaker 2: And kick them out and say get them out of
Speaker 2: my glass. And when you're ready to be an actor
Speaker 2: and open your soul up and get vulnerable, that ought
Speaker 2: to think about it totally.
Speaker 7: You know. He was just telling me to be the
Speaker 7: guy now that like all the cell phones going up,
Speaker 7: that being right there.
Speaker 5: You know, what do you say as an acting teacher,
Speaker 5: these kids.
Speaker 7: Like, well, you know, the kids or the young adults
Speaker 7: that I work with, I get to choose to work
Speaker 7: with kind of. So there are some kids that come
Speaker 7: in and could be very talented, but they won't let
Speaker 7: go of the phone. They won't let go of you
Speaker 7: know the end result, and that's difficult up so.
Speaker 2: You know, an awareness of how they look all the time,
Speaker 2: probably like we didn't have this.
Speaker 1: So I never Yeah, you never saw what you look like.
Speaker 5: You just did it. You had to trust the hair people.
Speaker 7: They can't recop.
Speaker 2: You never saw tillos on the hair, yeah, like even
Speaker 2: before video village.
Speaker 1: But also we didn't, like I never watched myself because
Speaker 1: I knew it wouldn't hit me, So I never watched myself.
Speaker 1: These kids are growing up with their image all the time.
Speaker 1: We didn't have that, Like I was always remember when
Speaker 1: you first heard your voice on an answering machine or something,
Speaker 1: it was horrifying, Like these kids grow up with that
Speaker 1: member that it was so rare for us to hear
Speaker 1: our own voices.
Speaker 7: I'm going to record this message twelve times.
Speaker 1: And so how do you work with them and how
Speaker 1: do you get them to be less self conscious? If
Speaker 1: they're seeing themselves all the time. I think that would
Speaker 1: have been impossible for me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think I think some of them a lot,
Speaker 7: at any of them. It's really about intention. What do
Speaker 7: you want? Right? So it's not I'm not saying about
Speaker 7: thinking about I need to make you X so that
Speaker 7: I can have this. Yeah, and here's what it's costing me.
Speaker 7: And you don't try totally.
Speaker 5: It's not working to flirt with you.
Speaker 1: But if they have in the back of their mind
Speaker 1: what I want over all of this is to protect
Speaker 1: my brand, this idea of myself. You can get them
Speaker 1: through that, you really get them through that.
Speaker 7: No, not all of them. I think so, I think
Speaker 7: I think some. I think. I think there's that message
Speaker 7: right now and there's a generation of kids who believe
Speaker 7: the message of Okay, I'm gonna do it my way.
Speaker 7: This is right. I know this is right. Even when
Speaker 7: it's not in in the in the face of you know,
Speaker 7: being sure, I think you lose opportunities of discovery.
Speaker 4: Isn't it so funny?
Speaker 6: Like we knew each other so many years ago and
Speaker 6: we're here we are Who would have thought that we'd
Speaker 6: all be able to come back together and talk about
Speaker 6: this from where we sit now, Like, well, the generation, yeah,
Speaker 6: like we're actually we're those people, you guys, we're the
Speaker 6: old people.
Speaker 4: And so where can we find you?
Speaker 7: So you can find the Italians on Amazon Prime starting
Speaker 7: April eleventh.
Speaker 5: That is fantastic.
Speaker 7: Can't wait to watch it'll be fun.
Speaker 5: I want to hear you.
Speaker 6: Let me know again, I'm going to screen.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, you know that you were part of
Speaker 7: the inspiration.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 2: And then you have another one coming after that that
Speaker 2: you have a part in with Tony Collette.
Speaker 7: And yeah, so Under the Stars will be out later
Speaker 7: this year, so they don't have a release date yet, but.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's fantastic. He's amazing, Are you kidding me?
Speaker 7: Well? He just and he and Tony Collette were great together.
Speaker 7: They were they were great, and he was such a pro,
Speaker 7: like he just wanted the best for the film across
Speaker 7: the board.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Would you say that Malory's Place was a good a
Speaker 2: good what do you call it?
Speaker 5: Like starting ground?
Speaker 2: Not that it was your beginning at all, because you've
Speaker 2: done other stuff some but for all this wonderful work
Speaker 2: that you're doing now and wonderful acting and teaching, and.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that was I think Melrose Place was
Speaker 7: a great training ground and I actually think better than
Speaker 7: a soap opera, you know, and I know it didn't
Speaker 7: start out as a soap opera. You know kind of
Speaker 7: got there, yeah, I kind of got there, But I
Speaker 7: think it's different because it's slower, there's more time to
Speaker 7: let yourself breathe a little bit. And on soaps it's
Speaker 7: you know, as Jack Wagner says, it's just go, go, go,
Speaker 7: go go. And I can see him liking that, right that.
Speaker 7: I think that fits his personalitymore. We're both, but I
Speaker 7: can see him.
Speaker 1: He also got to sing do you remember because you
Speaker 1: started to remember? All I need remember? That was his song?
Speaker 3: Was that was his song?
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden he said that, and I
Speaker 1: could see him.
Speaker 3: I was like I was in high school again.
Speaker 7: I was like, did you have a crush? It was?
Speaker 1: I remembered like it was literally like I went down
Speaker 1: and and there I was in that time, going, oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's that guy. Never I never pieced together
Speaker 1: until that moment.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he was big, big thing.
Speaker 6: Well, the best thing about Melrose for us is that
Speaker 6: we've got this wonderful group of friends that we can
Speaker 6: come back a million years later and do this fun
Speaker 6: little podcast called Still the Place, and we get to
Speaker 6: have you in, and we get to have everybody in,
Speaker 6: and it's always so fun to have our friends back.
Speaker 5: Thank you, great to see you. So everyone.
Speaker 2: Check out his The Italians on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 4: We'll be watching. Thanks for coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so good to see you.
Speaker 7: Thank you, Rob,