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Speaker 1: I am Rappaport Stereo Podcast. Get your popcorn ready, Okay,

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Speaker 1: not discussing Lebron James. We're not gonna be held hostage.

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Speaker 1: not no damn national anthem. Let him sitting there down, No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: is my rival, and with the Philly and they were

423
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Speaker 1: chairman of the boy Moses Malone fo Fo fo Mo Cheeks,

424
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: Bobby Jones free I'm a seventy six so baby, I

425
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't see Allen Avason when he stepped over Tyrone Lewis

426
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: thirty six points. Then we went the Philly and got

427
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: for on a rock. So so you see Doc. You

428
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 1: see Doc on the baby. So you're not You're not

429
00:24:54,680 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: gonna say I'm a because because because of Daldor, because

430
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: you're Sixer fan. Dal Dawkins dragged me from Orlando, because

431
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: everybody in Orlando became a Sixer fan because our kid

432
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: from the high school was going to go play Philly

433
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: with most of the load. All right, so what's your

434
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: first memory of playing in a regular season game? Who

435
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: was standing across the line? Who was the quarterback? Well,

436
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: what's the thing that? Like? Where you were? Like, oh, ship,

437
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: I was at the you and now I'm in the NFL.

438
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: Like when you think about that, you and how were we?

439
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: What do you remember about that? That's so funny because

440
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: my first game in the National Football League is the

441
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: who for What? Game with Ricky Waters when he had

442
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: left San Francisco after he won the championship. Get over

443
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: the Philly, I get drafted by Tampa after Philly trades

444
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: up and draft Mike Mamula with the seventh pick. So

445
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: this is like full circle. Randall Cunningham is the quarterback

446
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: Guy mcintires the guard. I mean it's I mean, it

447
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: set up for us. We're going there and we get

448
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: him twenty one to six. We win the game. Ricky

449
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: Waters goes after the game and they asked him and feeling,

450
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: you know, about to pass down the middle late in

451
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: the game, and he kind of you know, gat on

452
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: And the funny part of bottle is the guy that's

453
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: over there. You know, we were those orange color so

454
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean just I mean any kind of orange to

455
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: go by you. I mean it's like a bus went back.

456
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: So slim damn him, slim them wears a hundred and

457
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: forty pounds soaking wet, and I see them in the

458
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: locker room at the game. I like, damn, you're gonna

459
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: knock him out when you're dealing, Like, ain't seeing he

460
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: missed him? He no, he didn't even see if he

461
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: was Like I saw the ball up in the air

462
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: and I'm chasing the ball and I'm getting close to

463
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: the ball. All of a sudden, I look and that

464
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: was Ricky and I was like, that's crazy, crazy, that

465
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: was your first game. That's my first game in the

466
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: National Football Randall Cunningham is such an icon like ahead

467
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: of his time, the ultimate weapon. What was he like, uh,

468
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 1: you know playing against like how fast was he? How

469
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: big was he? Nice? Big six for long, lanky and

470
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: then he had that long galloping stride that you know

471
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 1: it looked so smooth, but he was he was he

472
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: was coming from space. How fast was he? I never

473
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: got a chance to see him like open up like

474
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: that money, like like when the Giants hit him and

475
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: he came out and needed to run. We didn't have

476
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: that kind of game against him. He was. They were

477
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: trying to pull him back at that point, kind of

478
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: making more of a pocket passer, because that was nine

479
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: when you did all that. So now we're talking about

480
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: so they like trying to make him this pocket pass

481
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: made him a lot easier to sack. Thank you did

482
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: you get him that day? Do you ever have dreams

483
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: of football now? No? I have flashbacks and like moments

484
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: when you know, like the national anthem still giving me

485
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: goose bumps, if I hit the national anthem to give

486
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: me goose bumps every time? No, that was like game time.

487
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 1: That was a trigger. Who It's all right. As far

488
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: as quarterbacks, like just specifically you eight motherfucker's up. That

489
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: was that's what you did. Who's the toughest to go

490
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: against as a defender, like the smartest, Who's the best

491
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: quarterback that you played against? Why? He was always there.

492
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: He was always available, no matter what you did to him,

493
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: no matter how you hit him, no matter what the

494
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: score was, he wasn't going nowhere. I mean every Sunday

495
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna check in every place, He's gonna check in.

496
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: Hit him good, He's gonna look at you, slap you

497
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: on the ass and say, good, hey, I'm going back

498
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: to the huddle. I mean Reggae hit him one time.

499
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: I thought he killed him. I mean just just took

500
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: him off from that bloom boom popped up and flipped

501
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: the ball. Who I look, I said, you've lost your

502
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: damn mind. He's like, I think, so that's what he

503
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: says to me going back to I think so Fagan

504
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: looked at me. I said, don't even worry about it.

505
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: Let's just keep playing. We just gotta keep playing. Do

506
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,239
Speaker 1: you think we can't knock him outship? Or he just

507
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: was like that. That was just him. That was him.

508
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: I always liking it to two country boys that lived

509
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: across the street from each other and had five different

510
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: friends that they like to go out and play, and

511
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: they'll play all day long to the sun go down.

512
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. He was on that

513
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: ship for real. Do you think what do you think

514
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: about the rules of the league now? Like in terms

515
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: of the physicality, you know, obviously safety is its most important.

516
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: I love the safety of the game. But they've turned

517
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: it into a dummies game. Why because you don't know,

518
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, Longe have to read the defenses going across

519
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: the middle. The andre reads the you know, the badasses,

520
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: them to rail ones that go across the middle and

521
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: scoop out of defense. That third down receiver, you know

522
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, That Ricky Prole, that badass that

523
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: of go across the middle, that bang eight when they come,

524
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: that safety coming and hit you right and your ship

525
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: and you got accepted and the coach tell you, hey

526
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: right here on this bang it big, right? I mean,

527
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: it ain't that no more. You damn kids run across

528
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: THEMN middle to feel like this is wavingute down moms

529
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: in his zone. Are you kidding me? You know, somebody

530
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: on the other side when you pass that lot backs

531
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: they're not they're not. They've dumbed down the game because

532
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: of the the because of the lack of physicality. No,

533
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: the kids, they they don't want it, they don't want

534
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: to learn it. They I want the easy route. I

535
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: want the middle of field wide open now. And that's

536
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: what they have now is the middle of field wide them.

537
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: That used to be the most precious real estate on

538
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: the football field, the middle of the field. But why

539
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: is that? Why? Why is it not is tough? Why

540
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: is it not precious anymore? Because they've opened it up

541
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: and made it an auto bar with exits and on

542
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: ramps every damn way you want to get on that.

543
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they just opened the game up. You need

544
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: thirty points to win a football game, right, That's why defense,

545
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: that defense win a championship. Dead dead defense gives you

546
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: a chance and your offense has to win it for

547
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: you and back and when you guys won the Super Bowl,

548
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: defense gives you a chance. Offense had to win it

549
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: for you. My offense kicked in, Brad Johnson and them

550
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: boys kicked in. They scored, you know, at all the

551
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: playoff games they score for us. But we we chipped

552
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: in a couple of points to as a defense because

553
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: it was just that kind of night. Were just having

554
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: that kind of night. Well, the ray Lewis defense that

555
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: beat the forty Niners that year where I can't remember

556
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: what year was, Is that the last of that in

557
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: terms of like a defense. And if Jim Harball would

558
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: have just had the ball to put it on the

559
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: ground and run it. Ray Lewis had made a tackle

560
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: assist in the middle of the third quarter was gone

561
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: and hello wasn't in the middle anymore, and he's I

562
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: don't know what Jim Harball was thinking, Just run the

563
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: damn ball. Are you able to remember all the games

564
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: from your career? Almost like random? Like if I said

565
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: this second second, you you remember all the ship if

566
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: you give me a certain instance of something, if you

567
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: see a picture of it, like you're able to like, hey,

568
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: I can tell you I can. Yeah, I'm gonna call

569
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: it a little bit of How do you feel about

570
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: your guy? I mean, I think he's like almost a

571
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: bigger star than anybody on his team. How do you

572
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: feel about Grooten being back in the NFL? You know what,

573
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: I had to unique pleasure of being able to talk

574
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: to coach because that's my man. Go see him in

575
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: his all fair get him on your podcast yet No,

576
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: not yet, but I'm going to open and get him.

577
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to open and get him. Come on, he

578
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: already told me else. He told me, yes, he told

579
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: me yes. I got him. I got him, I got him.

580
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: You're ready, man? Fuck you. I mean, I I've never

581
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: seen your job super for you, But how could you

582
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: not be a Raiders You got to be. Yeah, respect

583
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: hate him, but I mean if you like the NFL,

584
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: you got you gotta. You gotta know and love the Raiders. Man,

585
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: It's just what it is. The Sylvan Black is a

586
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: commitment to excellence. It's Al Davis. If you know anything

587
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: about say my school, Razzlasul High School, Brooklyn, New York,

588
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: he tells me. You know what he told me one time,

589
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: Mike Guyson would be afraid to walk in my neighborhood.

590
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: When I was that it wasn't bullshit. He wasn't bullshit.

591
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: That old man do not play no games when he's

592
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: telling you something. It was so sick. I was, Oh

593
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: my god, that old man told the best story. What

594
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: was he cool? Oh my god, you couldn't wear all

595
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: white like that not be cool enough. Que come on

596
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: the other side of the that some bitch was the best.

597
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: That's why I called him the Great Out Davis because

598
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: head coach, commissioner, the AFL general manager, World Champ, Hall

599
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: of Fame, everything you want, That's that's what Mr Davis

600
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: to me. So so Grooten, I had the unique pleasure

601
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: of calling them Tuesdays and Wednesdays after he flies from whatever,

602
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: and we talked football, you know, because that's my guy.

603
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: We talked football and you know, talk about him Mike

604
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: Rico and the and the telecast and everything. And then

605
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: I get over that with him sometime and watch him,

606
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, do his little work. You know, I say,

607
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, i'd work what you go, coach you with

608
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: damn t you know, every time i'm thinking about I'm

609
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: thinking about Then. I got a call last year and

610
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: he said, I think I'm gonna put the band back together.

611
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: And I said, oh ship. I mean, I didn't need

612
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: to start the conversation about him, like we co you know,

613
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: he's steal in the booth, happy, you know, making money

614
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: Corona commercials. You know what they do. I mean is

615
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: the fire stater and burns like you know. I mean,

616
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: he's everything you want in a high performance vehicle that

617
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: will go off road in anywhere you want to go.

618
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: I mean he's that. I mean, we're about to find

619
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: out these kids like something other than likes, views and follows.

620
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: I guarantee you he's going to m f somebody that's

621
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: got one of these little fragile egos that has never

622
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: been told anything. But he's the next best thing since

623
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: slice Bread, No, the next best thing since Beatty White.

624
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: You know, Batty Whites older than Slice Bread. I looked

625
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: that up. Yeah, holy slice Bread. That's some ship only

626
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: this slice Bread. Yeah, slice I looked that up, Like

627
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: that's the funny ship right there. Okay, said better than

628
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: you know, slice Bread is better than Betty very rays older. This.

629
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm telling you he will m MA few by this life.

630
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: I mean when he used to rip Keishan what you

631
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: and we don't be laughing because I mean they weren't

632
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: no social media world and nobody was gonna find out

633
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: about it. You know. I used to, you know, make

634
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: it had a joke in the locker room where I

635
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: do the players and come out of come out of the

636
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: the hudle like going the wrong way, and I mean

637
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: the guys would laugh and just oh man, we'd have

638
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: a ball with it. None of these kids to get there.

639
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to have tough skin to be

640
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: on the football team of basketball team. You know this,

641
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: that's get them. Your brothers, brothers fighting raz and pick

642
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: at each other all day long. And these kids aren't

643
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: ready for this. So do you think that there's gonna

644
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 1: be some bumps in the road. Conflicts of entuest guys

645
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: are not a not a conflict of venture. It's just

646
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: gonna be some some people get a ship rubed wrong,

647
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,479
Speaker 1: and they're gonna want out of there because these kids

648
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: have never been treated this way. Because he when you

649
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: played for him, Oh my god, there's no your warrant sap,

650
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: there's no your key shawan boom right the West shot

651
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: X daggers in X out Spider, too bananas to check

652
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: and you gotta kick your heat in there. Call his

653
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: ship as a quarterback, and he's only I used to

654
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: go to the quarterbacks meetings with him and Brad Johnson

655
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: used to be sitting over in the corner, like they said, Mike,

656
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: I swear to you like to see and he'd be

657
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: looking and he'd be like God damn, and he's like,

658
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: what's the matter, Brad? And you know, Johnna take a break,

659
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: go run, get him some coffee or something. And Brad

660
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: look at me like, za, can you get in the

661
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: shot in that ship just a little bit for me?

662
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, which one? He was like? That boom West

663
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: White short daggers Like that one he was like, yeah,

664
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, why don't we just call it three ex

665
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: daggers in and that boom right Western Shore. Everybody got

666
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: to already know it. He's like, tell it toy for

667
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: me please. So it takes me about two weeks to

668
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: get this done, but I get it done because I'm like,

669
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he loves this place. I mean he calls

670
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: he loves saying that he loves, he loves everything about it.

671
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: And he has a check to get out of it

672
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: if it's a blitz. So if it's not a blizz,

673
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: it's the play he won't. But if the blitz coming,

674
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: he's got the fake it and you know the we

675
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 1: called Tampa pass. You know, fake it to the tailback,

676
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: dump it to the fullback with a with a flag

677
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: off the end and a hook over the middle. You know,

678
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: it's just it's just one of the plays you can

679
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: get out of it, you know, because nobody's gonna pick

680
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: up that fullback coming out like that for three yard game.

681
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: You can have that every time a defensive give that

682
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: to you. But that is a mother boy. What you

683
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: gotta deal with that? That's eight t yard did coming

684
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: up with the top is his style of football? Do

685
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: you think he will He will adapt to the game

686
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: since it's obviously the game has made it easier for

687
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: him to do this now because it's wide old. Because

688
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: of his mind. Oh my god, he's going to show

689
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: you something and you're gonna swear you know what it is,

690
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be like, damn it, it's something else. Yes,

691
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: that's all he does. He's just a smith. It when

692
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: a man wakes up at three am in the morning

693
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: and goes to his off is that three fifteen when

694
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,479
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to be there and he ain't coming

695
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: out of that. It's until he felt like this, okay,

696
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: I mean I've burned, I've been there. I'm like, you know,

697
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: you got kidding me, dude, Like like, like, dude, what

698
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: are you doing this for? He's like, I love you.

699
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: You listen, you started a podcast. I'm I'm a little

700
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: bit ahead of You're a fucking Hall of Famer. Do

701
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: you and John Gruden just fucking football ship that I

702
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: can't even the thing is like, like, I'm not gonna

703
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: sit here and try to talk that football ship with you.

704
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, no, no, no no. You

705
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But you're doing the pockets talking

706
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: that ship, that football ship like that and the stories

707
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: in the you have to fuck do that. Listen. I

708
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: am going much listen to podcast because you're starting. You

709
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: got me now I need a camera. No no, we

710
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: did this for special occasion. Yeah we did did Yeah,

711
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: we don't talk. Look, I got four pages of notes

712
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: Rule number one of the Iron Rappers. There notes, no

713
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: no fact checking. I got four pages of notes. You

714
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: have to bring up the notes for you. This fucking

715
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: Warren sound he love it. I know. I gotta tell you.

716
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: I used to go in his office when he was

717
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: on Monday night football and the refrigerators full of chrome,

718
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean full of bear. I mean, I go in

719
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: there and give me a bit proper look at this

720
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: guy when you got when you got look at this

721
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: I mean, and we just go through it and it's like,

722
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: what has happened to the game of the hit hustle?

723
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: The love the passion. It's like, it's that just I'm

724
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: throwing his devil Devil's advocate. Is that just your forty five?

725
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: It's changed your player Hayden or like like, no, I'm

726
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm That's what the kids tell you. Now. If you

727
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: don't like you like following you. You hate this about

728
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: hate you about you ain't ship, You ain't ship, And

729
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm a hater whatever you want to call it. You say, uh,

730
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm a hater. I say you ain't ship. Put it,

731
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: just put it up. Put it lucky. Three years now

732
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: we might got something. Fuck you, you ain't ship. That's it. Listen.

733
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: They live off one catch, one run, one tweet, one post.

734
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: God damn, how long did you play in the league years?

735
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: When did you stop being great? Great? Great? Like? When

736
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: did you feel like you're How many years were you

737
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: at your like greatest? I had ten sacks as a

738
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: thirty four year old and I retired at thirty five.

739
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: You you consistent. I just wanted to love the game.

740
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: Like the game love me because it took me off

741
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: a dirt road. In the dirt road now bears my name,

742
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: So I was I was not gonna disrespect the game

743
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: at that age, and I had looked up the stats

744
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: and it was only like five guys that had ten

745
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: plus acts. As a thirty something plus year old, you know,

746
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: they put this on you, you know because when you

747
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: hit thirty and you hear the stories right right, I

748
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: had won my championship and I was thirty. Now that

749
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: was what was I gonna do when you won the Bowl?

750
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: Do you? As obviously you wont in Tampa as a

751
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: fan of the game, You're asked him about the Raiders like,

752
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: I'm vehement um and and Mark Davis, al Davis. These

753
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: are your people, you know them in a different way.

754
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm so offended as a as a fan of the NFL,

755
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: the Raiders going to Vegas. You know what, I put

756
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: it on my damn thing with that damn ugly ass thing.

757
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: You saw that ship with the with the with the

758
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: logo with that Colonel Sanders as mustache Al Davids rolling

759
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: over his grave. Oh my god, he wants to come

760
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: out of grave and choke the hell out of Mark

761
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: and whoever the hell designed that. What are they doing?

762
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: The Raiders got this for you. Listen, if you down there,

763
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't know I got this for you. Mike there's

764
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: three three guys on the football team. Right in Vegas

765
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: is a gambling town, right now, All of a sudden,

766
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: this kid's hanging out with the manager to run over

767
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: at Sapphire. But he really doesn't know this because the

768
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: guy ain't told him this. But he's the cool ast

769
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: guy that you know, got girls. And I'm just the

770
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: l four on the kick return team. And I played

771
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: the Big four and a little too. You know that

772
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: is a special team. Big four a little too. You know,

773
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna see the field unless it's forty five nothing, right,

774
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm good. That's who you go after. Because now I

775
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: walked in the room and put good, he makes a hunt,

776
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: he makes two hundred and ninety maybe three hundred now

777
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: is the minimum? It was like one without, so I

778
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: just want another hundred on. So now let's say makes

779
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand, maybe four. Let's put that four four

780
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: hundred thousand, So now it's two hundred with taxes. Right.

781
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: I walked in and I dropped a hundred thousand dollars

782
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: in front of him, and I say, when y'all or

783
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: in the third fourth quarter and they're kicking off no

784
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: matter what, that school is I'm gonna need that kickoff

785
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: to go right up your whole. You know how easy

786
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: it is for L four to run into an L five,

787
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: And you know how big that whole is right now

788
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,959
Speaker 1: on the football field. Are you sick? Because are you thinking?

789
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: You know, I'm telling you something that is real. And

790
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: if nobody in three forty three fifteen, whatever the hell

791
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: they knew addresses, if they think about avoiding the concussion

792
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: payments with the old guys and avoiding the national anthem

793
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: with this dumb ass you know, raingating in the White House,

794
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: or whatever the hell they got going on, you know

795
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: you better be aware that why is there never an

796
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: injury in the NFL not reported or something pop up?

797
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: That the line in Vegas? How close are the line

798
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: every week? Right on it? Right, they're right on it

799
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: because they're in the locker room. Right, they're in the

800
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: locker room. And now you're gonna put a team in

801
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: the right in Vegas, you got a kid making two

802
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: dollars take on and I can walk in one hund

803
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: thousand dollar briefcase and tell him I need that touchdown.

804
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: You know, Vegas, I know football. I know football. And

805
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: if you get the alpha to run into the L

806
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: three and they fall down. The next due is the

807
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 1: L five and the L two. You know how bigger

808
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: hole that is. You know how fast that kick returner is.

809
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: And they're trying to come up with new rules to

810
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: make the kickoff exciting again, right, play with it? Do you?

811
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: That takes about four seconds to put six on the

812
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: st Just real ship. That's the first thing that hit

813
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: my mind. I went, you walcome to the LFHO and

814
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: you'd be like, when the game is around seventeen, fourteen

815
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: or four or five point game, we're kicking off, y'all,

816
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: kicking off you just scored to get back in the game.

817
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: I need that kickoff going to the house or past

818
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: the fifty you threw. Because I was just talking about

819
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: I was worried about, dude, talk about bullshit. No, I'm

820
00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: talking about goddamn real money. I'll tell about some real money,

821
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 1: some real money. Is that a concern for you? When

822
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: I heard it, I went, that's the first Nobody in

823
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: the league realizes this because they live there now. Now

824
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 1: Monday is there when you get finished watching the tape

825
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: on after Sunday, Monday Tuesdays only the DOLF day. So

826
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: now we got money afternoon Monday night to go do

827
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: whatever I want, go hang out to have a good time.

828
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: Pat it on the back. You the L four. You

829
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: are the the right gunna. You are about the star

830
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: slot receiver who's you know, makes too much money. You

831
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: don't want touch him because now you're asking a star

832
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: to become headache. You know the guys that the the

833
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: BC guys or whatever. You don't. You don't touch the star.

834
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: You touch the guy that makes two d dollars And

835
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: you just dropped the hundred in front of him. And

836
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: he's from the swamp somewhere, said man that man. No, no,

837
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: hell Billy jim from hell Billy John. I'm telling you

838
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: we're talking about the exit and old Mr Jimmy's and Joe's.

839
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: When I asked you quarterbacks, we we talked about Randall.

840
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 1: You said he was. He wasn't. He wasn't the great

841
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: great Randall. No, that wasn't the ultimate weapon he was.

842
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: He wasn't in the aging. But then he shows up

843
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: in Minnesota and him and Randy Moss go, trust me,

844
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: I was I was underneath that done too. You were

845
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: dealing with that to Dan Marino, John Elways, Steve Young,

846
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,959
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, Tom Brady, Mike Vic, Steve McNair, Tony Romo,

847
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger. Did you just find

848
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: my secon list? No, you got all these almost almost,

849
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: but but but let me just let me just let

850
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: me just pick a name, like when you say this

851
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: guy was what as a quarterback? John Elway? Oh my god,

852
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: the gun sling with that, with that pigeon toe. I

853
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: grabbed him one time in nineties six, had him wrapped

854
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: up in the taking down. He flipped it with his

855
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: left hand. I wanted to slam him, but I had

856
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: so much respect for him, I just let him go.

857
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm like you saw him and he laughed at me.

858
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: We still laugh about it to this day. Remember, oh

859
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 1: you had him, oh rap because I grabbed him and

860
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: I was wrapping him and I went to wrap him

861
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: and that's when I realized, then there's no respect. You

862
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: have the dirty dog him and then tell him after

863
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: the game how much you loved him. That's a kid

864
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: growing up. You got a dirty dog by the players

865
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: going over did after the game or express how much

866
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: I love you and how much you know you meant

867
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: to me as a kid, and all of that. Yeah,

868
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: but oh, I had the respect for him, and he

869
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: flipped it out of me. I was son of And

870
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: I said to myself, then that's the last time that happened.

871
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: Steve Young. Why was he so special? He's a little dude, right,

872
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: You know what? And I tell people this all the time,

873
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: this is what John Gruen was gonna do with Chris Sims.

874
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: Was gonna flip your offense. Because now when the right

875
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: hand to dropped back, he's feeling to feel from this

876
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: way back that way. You flip it the other way

877
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: with the left hand is going the other way, and

878
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: it's the left hand of quarterback. It's just like a

879
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: left hand in basketball, like Chris Mullen, and most left

880
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: handers are special guys. When you see you, you mentioned

881
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: Chris Moan because I kind of remind you of Chris Moller. No,

882
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: it's just that New York flavor, baby boy, that beast St.

883
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: John Big East. Not a full defensive player to get biggat, right,

884
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: Come on, the baby with the real Big East. Listen,

885
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: the Big East St. John's played football, and I know

886
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: I got with that. Okay, okay, well, my biggies, all

887
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: of St. John's yeah, yeah, yeah, the Georgetown all that

888
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: seat homes. Yeah, that's come on overa come on, what

889
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 1: the man was high? He shot the ball on look

890
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: the McClain brother shoot that thing and everything that night,

891
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: everything felt that all night. I erupted you, Steve. You'm sorry, Steve.

892
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: That guy the most accurate pastor in the game until

893
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: these new kids came up and everything opened up the

894
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: way nowadays just this crazy. But Steve Young was that

895
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: the purest surpasses. I mean, oh, he could deliver the ball. Yeah,

896
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: this guy, I mean he's still going. The fact that

897
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: he's still going. Tom Brady the greatest. Why because we

898
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: measure them by championships. We measured by playoff apparents. We

899
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: measured by playoff performances. And if you got anybody that

900
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 1: was down twenty eight to three, he said, the hell

901
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: with that. We covered back and I am not going

902
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: hold out the championship. The fact that even said Julian Edelman,

903
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: he had the balls to Julian Edelman is a nasty

904
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: fucker too. I remember when I heard them say it's

905
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: gonna be a hell of a store. I was like, motherfucker'

906
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: there ain't no story. I'm going to sleep. The fact

907
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: that they were even talking at ship. That's how you believe,

908
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: because it's an old additive that we only need these

909
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: street the three fifty three men in his locker room

910
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: to believe in what we believe in. But that's the

911
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: God the honors truth. Because the coach is just calling

912
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: that ship. You gotta make it go. I'm telling you,

913
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: ain't about the exit and old. It's the Jimmis and Joe's.

914
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, when you got a special group of

915
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that believe that this is us, you can go

916
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: get it. That was crazy. That's crazy because Atlanta on

917
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: the thing you needed to do was after Julio makes

918
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: the catch, run it three times on the road, kick

919
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: the field goal. They have no more time. As you're

920
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: up ere leving who the fund didn't do that math,

921
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 1: that's simple. After they called time out. That's someone math. Yeah, yeah,

922
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: that's nuts. Getting tight in a big game and you

923
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: don't know what to do. It's a situational football. Situational

924
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: football is what Belichick teaches his team, and they knew

925
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: exactly what was gonna happen because after Atlanta made the catch,

926
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: they just lined up like this was a normal situation. No,

927
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: this was dire straits. We're about to send the house

928
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: at you because we need the ball back and that

929
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: clock stop right now. They didn't even know they were

930
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: gonna blit something like that. I can't stand the Patriots,

931
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: but obviously I respect, you know, my giants beat their

932
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: ask respect. What do you think about these players? I

933
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: can't remember his name. I was talking about that are

934
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: coming out and saying it's no fun. He played for Belichick.

935
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: It's no fun playing for the Patriots. Amndola took a

936
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: little shot like saying, you know, I want to be

937
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: What do you think about? No, No, we've always heard

938
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: this that you will sacrifice to win champions What do

939
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: you sacrifice money? Uh? Accolades and Richard Siemo might have

940
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: been one of the finest defensive tackles to ever playing

941
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, and nobody will ever know

942
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: because he played New England one championship about the championship.

943
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: Didn't have many sack numbers, didn't have many great years,

944
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 1: never wanted defensive player the year, didn't go to many

945
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, but was a great defensive tackle in your prime.

946
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: If you had gotten drafted and you played for Bill Belichick,

947
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: would you forget now with perspective, I'm talking about when

948
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: you were no, no, no, I think you playing for

949
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: me because when he was in Cleveland, he wanted to

950
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: draft me and put me with Michael Dean Pery, Dan

951
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: Footman and the other guy that they had up there.

952
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean he wasna. He wanted to draft me in

953
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: clevelandity and like the greatness that you emerge. I think

954
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: a great defensive coordinator like Bill Belichick would have found

955
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 1: me a spot, let me go get me a hundred

956
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: sacks like I got. I mean, that's what you go

957
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: do when you find the talent. He found a way

958
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: to go let Lawrence Taylor and then a whole new position.

959
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: That's what you do when you find something that's a

960
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: talent like that, like Brady, you go put pieces around it.

961
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: You go get a Randy Moss, you go break Jay

962
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: Rice damn record. You see what I'm saying. You go

963
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: after Don Shoolwood seventeen and old. You know, that's what

964
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: you do. When you hear these guys saying, like when

965
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: they're acting like it's not fun or be free, you

966
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: can't be yourself. The Patriot way is that like saying,

967
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: I don't think about that ship when you keep it

968
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: real fucking community sending the check. Then you tell me

969
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: about fun and keeping it reel and all that bullshit.

970
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: You know what New England is, Bill Belichick, goddamn U

971
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: dal in terms excellent adventure. And if you like to

972
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: go to ten Super Bowls, you come over here and

973
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: join us. If not, then call your ass over that

974
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: the Cleveland and at the jackass in loose sixteen games

975
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: and then fire up and get the first six one

976
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: quarterback since Mike Vick, enjoy yourself. Mike Vick, Oh, how

977
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: I got a story? Give it to me. Remember that

978
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: run he went on in like two thousand, no, no,

979
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: two thousand one because simme and had just got to

980
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: me two thousand one when he went crazy in Minnesota

981
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 1: through the ball in the stands, went to Caroline and

982
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: did them in the daytime. Then like two weeks later,

983
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: did him on a Sunday night game or something. Killing.

984
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean just like a week after week after week.

985
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: It's like highlight after highlight, right, so we're in the

986
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: meet him. We got Mike Vick this weekend Simeon for

987
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: some reason, I said he was moonlighting as a male

988
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: stripper or something, because I'm telling you, soon as we

989
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: got in the meeting, the light went off. He gone gone.

990
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: So we in this meeting and he's sleeping like usual,

991
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: and Brooks and him over. So you're gonna let you

992
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: man sleep as long as he played like he played

993
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: on Sunday, leave him the hell alone. He could sleep

994
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: only on on Wednesday Thursday. That don't mean ship to me.

995
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: I'll give him the call. Whatever we watch it, I'll

996
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: let him know what we gotta pay off this board.

997
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,479
Speaker 1: So long story short, Mike Vickingness, I mean, my god,

998
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: damn thirty yard run, forty yards, fifty touchdown, touchdown touched.

999
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: I said, your pip, that's what you're calling pip Pip. Yeah, yeah,

1000
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: I said, man, you might want to get some of

1001
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: this dog. This ship is special. So he go to

1002
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 1: watch three players in the room. He go for another

1003
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: fifty sixty. Oh, you're no third down after third down

1004
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: in a row, like the next third down in the

1005
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: in the Carolina game, the next third down in the

1006
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: Minnesota game, in the Minnesota game, in the Minnesota game,

1007
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: not back to the Carolina game in the daytime, then

1008
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: the Carolina game at night. It's just third. It's the

1009
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: third down reel. Like every third down Atlanta has had

1010
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: in the last five weeks. We're watching this and I

1011
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: swear to God, seven out of every eight is a

1012
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: forty plus yard touchdown or sick ass run where he

1013
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: I mean making people missing see me and watch about

1014
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: three d s in a row. And he put his

1015
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: hand up and I look over at him and like, yeo, man,

1016
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: you know what doc is hell in here. Nobody can

1017
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: see you, right, Uh So you're like money because that's

1018
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: how that's how we had to do it. You have

1019
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: to you have to yell out because it's jet black

1020
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: dog and he's up there running the cliffer and nobody,

1021
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna see you with your hand up, just yelling out,

1022
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: hey Molly, see what I'm saying. It just uh, it's

1023
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: just like a highlight table or something. It was that.

1024
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: It was that crazy dog. I won't get this take

1025
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: for you because I know the old video got down

1026
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: the Tampa. I think he still got it. But I'm

1027
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 1: telling you this third down reel was like, my god,

1028
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: So what was it like when you was when when

1029
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: you were out there with him? Nothing like that because

1030
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: we never got him in a position where he opened

1031
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: up on us like that. We we Everything he was

1032
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: doing was like quick stops and then take off and

1033
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: we get him on the ground. I mean we had

1034
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: we had a plan, and we had Derek Brooks right.

1035
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: We had a plan because I wasn't gonna let him

1036
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: go right up the middle, because that's how he gets started.

1037
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: Once he goes this way, then everything side the side,

1038
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: it's a lot of easier once you go in. That

1039
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: fast was see we see the fastest quarterback that you

1040
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: played against by by not even close, like fucking like

1041
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: quick everything. She didn't run much of the running backs

1042
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: that went up against. I don't what Chris Johnson maybe

1043
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: the only back I think that Mike was that he

1044
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 1: was that fast. My god, it was It was no angle.

1045
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: It was like that Dion fast like like he's just running,

1046
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: like just going in. It's effortless. Oh my god. Who Okay,

1047
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to running backs. You you you played again?

1048
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: I mean Eddring Ladinian. There's only one running back, Adrian Peterson,

1049
00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: Ricky Williams, Terrell Davis, Frank or Jamal Lewis, Tiki bar

1050
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: I saved the best for last, Okay, I don't need

1051
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: the the other guy it's Barry Sanders, and then I

1052
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: should have flipped the list there no question I love EJ.

1053
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: E J was one of those diagonal runners that can

1054
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: get it done. I mean, Chris Johnson will just you

1055
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: give him a crack and he's gone. I mean he

1056
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: just floor the fast. I mean that's what he was.

1057
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: And Florida fast. Why are you motherfucker's so fast down there?

1058
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: You know that? Man, Orange Orange Bros. You know, I

1059
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: think that's saying just brow in. We run through them

1060
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: ships and then when the green oranges, right, we have

1061
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,959
Speaker 1: green oranges fighting, throwing at each other and you gotta

1062
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: you gotta run. Just the Florida ship is really yeah.

1063
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: And then you go down to Bell Glade. They got

1064
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: that mup when they out there chasing the damn ship. Listen, man,

1065
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: when you don't have money, we don't have we don't

1066
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: have the why to go to. They don't build us

1067
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: basketball courts. You know that with shade over there, you

1068
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: haven't seen those damn things in Puerto Rico on the

1069
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: damn South American countries would have shade over the time,

1070
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: like if they have built that's one of those in

1071
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: the damn country. We have to play basketball all day.

1072
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: That's why y'all can play basketball. It gets cool up north.

1073
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: We can't touch that ship. Uh No, we gotta. We

1074
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: gotta entertain ourselves otherways and make a dollar because mom,

1075
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: Mom ain't buying no hun of dollars shoes them. George,

1076
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: you want better, you better go to work for him.

1077
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: You ain't no hundred dollars shoes around here back. You know,

1078
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: mom about them bobos for your ass at the heartbeat,

1079
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: bobos and Bobo d D. So when you think of Barrie,

1080
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: I think of a nightmare. I used to hate the

1081
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: damn practice. How was he? Oh my god, right on

1082
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: the ground. We're talking about like a little fucking bowling ball. Yeah,

1083
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: a butcher knives that will cut your ass in half

1084
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: as he's on his way for six. He had two

1085
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: eighty plus runs in a game against us. You know what,

1086
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: My defensive coordinator walked in and said, now we take

1087
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: away those two runs here at one point seven. You

1088
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: ca yeah, right, that's that. That means jack ships, jack ship.

1089
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: When I gotta watch this damn tape right now, it's

1090
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: bad for eight and eighty two in the same game.

1091
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: So Barry's first and I said him last. I said

1092
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: that Mitt Smith and all these other guys. So when

1093
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: I say Barry, Who's who's second after Barry Sanders, you

1094
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: say the best? Like who's Like I need to get

1095
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: some fucking was the motherfucker? That was my Oakland Is

1096
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: And I just told him one thing when Marshall funk

1097
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: to him and fall, Yeah, he's on my phone him

1098
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: and fall. Because I'm talking about every down backs. You

1099
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: know he's damned first second down backs that can't catch

1100
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson. You can't catch, you can't get like yeah, okay, okay,

1101
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: tell me a basketball player who don't use his left

1102
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: damn hand. Is it his fault? No, it's not football

1103
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: facility every day. But let me see, football gets thrown

1104
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: every day. But let me ask you this question. If

1105
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: I throw you a football, all you can catch a

1106
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: football when they explain it to me. And I'm not

1107
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: challenging because I want to know because I know what.

1108
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: I know what I don't know. When you say a

1109
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: running back can't catch, you don't mean that literally, right, Yeah,

1110
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: Like he fights the ball like he fights it, like

1111
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: like you throw the ball, he'll he'll try to grab it.

1112
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: That's not catching the ball, catching the ball. So what

1113
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: you have to do is get that little tether and

1114
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: tie it to the chain and sit there and throw

1115
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: it and it'll come back. Remember that, A you have

1116
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: to put work into your crash. So when you say

1117
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: as good as Adrian Peterson, one of the Queen will

1118
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: never be on the list for the greatest running back

1119
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: of all time. He's not a three down back. He's

1120
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: coming out on third down. I don't know if it's protection,

1121
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: but I think it's just catching because I've seen the screens.

1122
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: It's ugly. A man that you ever shook his hand.

1123
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: You see a beast, dude. You know what I when

1124
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: I when I go up to him and I tell

1125
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: him tell me his faith. I love h a time

1126
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: like yo, O, g right here, baby, come come, He's like,

1127
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: I know, I know, my God, he will bring you

1128
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: to your knees. And for a man that has that

1129
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: kind of ability to squeeze and not be delicate with

1130
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: that ball, you know, see, I find that so fucking

1131
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: interesting because like I'm saying, like, so you mean you

1132
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: can't catch at an NFL level, not like in your backyard.

1133
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: He'd have trouble throwing the ball back before they say,

1134
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: no ship, that just happened. When you go to work,

1135
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying? Because when you acause,

1136
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: if you're watch him, he works out, he runs. You've

1137
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: never seen him working on his hands because his strength

1138
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: is I'm a powerful running back. You can hand the

1139
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: ball to thirty times. He just in the wrong air force.

1140
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: So when I see show you this is of these

1141
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 1: guys here, like, obviously respect all these guys, but who

1142
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: of them can't catch I'm gonna I'm saying, right, but

1143
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: his career was so short and Tiki had to learn

1144
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: how to catch and stop farmbling. Truell Davids just with special.

1145
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: He was special. He was just one of those guys.

1146
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: And Frank Gore, I mean, with all the need problems

1147
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: he had. You mean, but he but Jamal couldn't catch you. Yeah,

1148
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: Frank still gonna. Frank will run that thing too, Oh

1149
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: my goodness, Frank, Frank special. Frank's just one of those

1150
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: guys that was built to play this game until you

1151
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: pride the helmet from his cold dead fingers. Right, yeah, alright,

1152
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: defensive guys in the NFL. First of all, when you

1153
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: grew up playing, when you grew up as a fan

1154
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: of football. Who who is the guy that you looked

1155
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: at that inspired you about football? Defensively, No, no defensive player,

1156
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: not back then, not in the seventies and eighties. You

1157
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: everybody wanted to be a running back. And my brother

1158
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: was running back in high school and ran for three

1159
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: d forty eight yards and five touchdowns in front of

1160
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: my eyes. So my brother was was it from me? No,

1161
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: nobody on TV, nobody in the NFL. My brother. I

1162
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: got to sit and eat with him, and he had

1163
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: a state championship JA get from Texas. He had done

1164
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: one and brought it back to Florida. He was everything

1165
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: to me. I mean that was my guy, I mean ship.

1166
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 1: We was playing out in the yard and one of

1167
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: my homebuys braut of bone like I'm on their LIFs

1168
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: and we all stopped like, you can't that, sap bro,

1169
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 1: you can't be that, you know, because you always had

1170
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: to be somebody. Earl Campbell Tony Door said, whoever it was,

1171
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: remember that that that was? That was us, sweetness. Walter Payne,

1172
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: come on man, carrying the ball like a loafer brand

1173
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: pony and stepping with them Kangar rules with the pocket

1174
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: on the side. Come on, they Walter was come on.

1175
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor was the first person that all made us go,

1176
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, made it sexy. Oh boy, made it

1177
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: so sexy. I mean, Lawrence was the was everything. I mean,

1178
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: the stories of him climbing up the side of the

1179
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: building in North Carolina and then throwing the desk out

1180
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: and every time. I mean, Lawrence was everything. And then

1181
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: Dion made it even more fashionable. Want to be that

1182
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: that that defensive guy. He was like a freak because

1183
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: he was doing this is my opinion, you're gonna like this.

1184
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 1: Warence Taylor is the greatest football player ever because and

1185
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: it will never be duplicated. He's the only full fledged

1186
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: crackhead to win m v P. Listen, tell me I'm lying.

1187
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,479
Speaker 1: That'll never be had never hopefully it will never happen again.

1188
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: My crack, my life, you're from my life. Get brother

1189
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: that like you said, that's about here. He wouldn't say crack.

1190
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think. Oh no, he was

1191
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: on all that good ship. Listen, Lawrence gave him apple

1192
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: juice one time in a pistest. He's my guy. Oh

1193
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: that's my guy. That's I just left him at the

1194
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: bow Jackson. I mean that's my guy, that's my guy,

1195
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: the greatest football Yeah yeah, yea, yeah yeah, I'll give

1196
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: it to you. Listen to this because me and Phil

1197
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: sim was on showtime inside the NFL for four years,

1198
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: and then I didn't been to the house with the

1199
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: mama and the babies. Everything. Got the stories my no, no,

1200
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: just one, just one for you, he said. One night

1201
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: human um Bill, that's my Hall of Fame classmate to

1202
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: Bill ourselves. So I this is my whole little triangle

1203
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: right here between these three. One night they in there,

1204
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: late night playoffs. Security guy hits the door about midnight,

1205
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: bro coach, and he looks and she feeling. He's like, uh,

1206
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: He's like, I see what you got to say between

1207
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: me and Phil. He's like, coach, Lawrence just hit the

1208
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: back door. Coach looked over. His wife said, ship let

1209
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: him go. It didn't matter. Full sacks the next day

1210
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: it was. I mean, you got to know when to

1211
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: hold him, know when to fold him sometimes, baby, and

1212
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: where to walk away and no, wohld't let that man run?

1213
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: So let him go? All right? Defensive players, now, sap,

1214
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: who do you like? Who do you who excites you?

1215
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: Who's great? Who's overhyped. You don't have to shoot on anybody.

1216
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: Was it was great? No, no, what what gets me excited?

1217
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: It's ninety nine, Aaron d We're talking about the defensive

1218
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: player years as I look at it. But I remember,

1219
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 1: I remember when I see so I remember when I

1220
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: saw him coming out of pit another big east you

1221
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, I watched him come out

1222
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: and they was you know, they were asking on the network,

1223
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: you know who? I thought, I said, Aaron, don't. It's

1224
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: the closer thing i've seen that. Can you know, move

1225
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: in shape? Like I like, I did you know that?

1226
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: That was always No, we're about the same time. Well

1227
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: now he's bigger than me. No no, no, no, no,

1228
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 1: he's not taller, no, no way more than me. But

1229
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: he's maybe just a little smaller because I think he's

1230
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: like six too, and I was like six two and

1231
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: a half three you were three hundred yea three or

1232
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: seven A day I went with Brett Fall talking all

1233
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: this ship in the playoff games three or seven. And

1234
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: only reason I know that because far comes out was like,

1235
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: how much you wait? Sucking me? How much I wait?

1236
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: The day He's like, yeah, I'm like I didn't weigh

1237
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: myself this morning if I came to the Stateum, why

1238
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: so he goes in the whole car to play come

1239
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: out the damn program. Say you wait to seventy six?

1240
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: Are you serious? I swear to God, we just we

1241
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: have the damn comes the middle play. He hands it

1242
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 1: off that we tackled doors and get him on the ground.

1243
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: I popped back up and said, that's what I want.

1244
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: When I checked into training camp at to seventy six,

1245
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: I say, to day last Friday three or seven, I

1246
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: knew it. I'm like, what are you saying? You think

1247
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: you can not running? Don't worry, you get you shot.

1248
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: God taste them all day long. That's some of the

1249
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: big I'm telling you. It was like two country boys

1250
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: that knew each other closer street, and we just had

1251
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: five different friends that we just like to go out

1252
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: and play to the damn sun go down. That's Frank

1253
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: Winners hated it. Oh, Frankie Duncan don't nuts this. Why

1254
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: why Frank told him say the more he talked, the

1255
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: better he plays. Oh. I mean, it's just one of

1256
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: those things the where you just it just it just adds.

1257
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: It's hot sauce on Oh my god, hot sal sauce,

1258
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 1: all that good ship whatever makes you got little. Yeah, alright,

1259
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: So so Aaron, oh, Aaron Donald gets me excited. I

1260
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 1: want to see what J. J. Watt when he gets back,

1261
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 1: because you know, you know what I know. And I

1262
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: say this because I've yet to see one game where

1263
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: they said YouTube have him and he does not make

1264
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: a damn play today because I've been in that damn

1265
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,719
Speaker 1: blender with two dudes are excigning me, and they ain't

1266
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 1: leaving trying to go They're not trying to go to

1267
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: the next level. If me and him on you today,

1268
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: big boy. So you say he's not great, not in

1269
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: my eyes, because a great player you would have to

1270
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: have a plan for. And I watched too many Sundays

1271
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: were he's just playing now. Is he getting the numbers?

1272
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: Is he productive? No doubt about it. But I watched

1273
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville game and you can watch it yourself. He

1274
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: makes three plays and they're all on bootlegs. Not one

1275
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: time does Jacksonville run the fake boot and run the

1276
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: play on the ethan where they where you gotta make

1277
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: the tackle on the running back. They don't even run

1278
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,679
Speaker 1: that play. They go to the boot first. He's playing

1279
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: the boot assholes. They y'all watching the tape. You can

1280
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,759
Speaker 1: see it from TV. I'm watching the ship. It's too easy.

1281
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: Defensive linement. You know, the best part of the officer aliement.

1282
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: They can't lie. The biggest lie officsive a linement will

1283
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: tell you is that flash trap. He'll flash you and

1284
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 1: go away. Explain that, explaining basic terms out. All right.

1285
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: If I'm on the line of scrimmageing you across from me,

1286
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 1: and you the three technique when this ball snap, if

1287
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 1: I have to reach block you my first step, I'm

1288
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: trying to take you over. Now we can get outside

1289
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: and stretch. Just play down the thing. If it's a

1290
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: slip block, the where now me and the tackle gonna combo.

1291
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a step and then I'm gonna go.

1292
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: If it's a double team where we're coming at you,

1293
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go at you and there's a double team,

1294
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: there's no lying in that. If it's a pass play,

1295
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to pass now play action. That that's

1296
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: a that's that's a half false lie. But the biggest

1297
01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: lie you get told is a flash trapp and they're

1298
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: gon away that you're reading this Oh no, I'm looking

1299
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: at this big sad ask gut. He ain't going no

1300
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 1: one without this. That's where you have your eyes. No,

1301
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: my eyes at the viva's neck, because when I take

1302
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: off at the via the neck, then it rises. Then

1303
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: his guts coming in front of me, and it's either

1304
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: going that way, this way or that way. I got

1305
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. That's what the fun. That's

1306
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 1: that football ship. It's just like a visual thing. When

1307
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 1: you trust your eyes and your feet, your hand fall

1308
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: and you break that ship. That's how you gotta break

1309
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: that Ship's just that simple. You can see it right

1310
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: in front of you. He got gonna watch me. He's

1311
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: gonna take off. The defensive line is not gonna lie

1312
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: to They can't. You ain't got that kind of time.

1313
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: Who's the best offensive line? Why plus six hundred plus

1314
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: pounds run a four six. That's an animal. That's a beast.

1315
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: That's beast mode for real. The first time I saw

1316
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: him live, I was at my first Pro Bowl, and

1317
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: you know, I'm out there like a kid in the canto.

1318
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: Reggie Whites right there, John Randers right here stubble field.

1319
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: Derrick Thomas is on the other field, Cortes Kennedy. I mean,

1320
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 1: I mean all my counin Smith Road to practice with

1321
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 1: me and Brooks. I mean we were having a damn.

1322
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,520
Speaker 1: I mean, like kids, all of a sudden, I'm in practicing.

1323
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: You gotta be a stationary Guyana in the pro bo.

1324
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 1: They really don't let you devate. The defense man. Larry

1325
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: Allen came around this digging corner I'm talking about like that,

1326
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: Like what the I'm like that? A three pound man

1327
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: just went by me my car. I've never seen nothing

1328
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: like that. And from that point on, when I wanted something,

1329
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: I dreamed of it. And we we we played each

1330
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: other like three times, but from that point on, I

1331
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 1: dreamed of it. I mean, he was that and I

1332
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: had Random mcdame. That's the second guy. Those two the

1333
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 1: most athletic, strong, smart, physical, dominating, and neither one on

1334
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: would talk to you. That's what I hated about. You

1335
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: try to engage man. I changed Larry don't always to

1336
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: the sideline. Wanted to give it the talk to be.

1337
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: He wouldn't say, wouldn't said, you get at my faith.

1338
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: That's all they said. You know why you're great because

1339
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: you said you saw him, you were impressed by his size,

1340
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: his whole physical ship. That's why you're waring sad that

1341
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: that was the test. That's but that little test. You

1342
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 1: know what. I say this all the time because I

1343
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 1: heard Michael Jordan said this. Kobe Bryant was that guy

1344
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: because Kobe would guard you on the other end. He

1345
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: give it to you down his end because he was

1346
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 1: you gotta be able to give it as good as

1347
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 1: you and now come defend. And that was the thing.

1348
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 1: They was like, they won't defend. You know. Jon used

1349
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: to always say they won't defending. Why won't they go defending?

1350
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 1: And obviously and I used to watch him like he

1351
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: tended damn true, like they won't. They won't come defending.

1352
01:12:57,720 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean, but he'll go defend theirs, but they will

1353
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: not come on that other thing, and stepped back to

1354
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 1: him like, well come on, I mean that bowls a sass.

1355
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: I love, I love a black mama. Oh please, he's straight, cold,

1356
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 1: cold bloody, mean, cold bloody and told on shock like

1357
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: that SHOT's the best man, the best ever dog step

1358
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: before to lean down. Listen to your stories. I was

1359
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 1: with the Middle Trust Special, the Nerve Boy. If you've

1360
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,280
Speaker 1: got somebody to say something bad about shot I'm coming

1361
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: to see. I agree, right, I agree the best you know,

1362
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 1: you know, to be that big, to be that famous,

1363
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:48,560
Speaker 1: to be that great. And he played bully ball, but

1364
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: he wasn't a bully at all, do you know what

1365
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying? Like like that little, that little you know,

1366
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 1: but he wasn't like no, no, he was almost step

1367
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: on your throat and bust your head that. Yeah, but

1368
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: he did in a kind of kind of goofy, cocky

1369
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: king to you. I mean, he's getting your ship, yeah,

1370
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 1: a little bit. But but you knew he wasn't. He

1371
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna rip your head off. You knew he was.

1372
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: He was just too he was too good of a guy.

1373
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 1: He was too good of a guy. Not to say

1374
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: that he wasn't me but like, no, no, you you

1375
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 1: touch him, you touch him in a certain but did

1376
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 1: you beat that guy to handle it and the sense

1377
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: of human like he's a special dude. Um, all right,

1378
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 1: we said, Aaron Donald, who else There's gotta be another

1379
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: fucking player in the NFL that you like? I was

1380
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 1: just conned man Vic Beasley and Atlanta. I wish his

1381
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: ask would have, you know, showed up in the playoffs

1382
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 1: because that's when you get your name is not in

1383
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: the regular season, when you get the sixteen games. That's

1384
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 1: that's just that. It is when everybody's watching and everybody

1385
01:14:55,720 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 1: was up. What that boy he showed up? Man? Remember

1386
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: sending in that text message before he played cam New

1387
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: and I say, nephew, you gotta take it over from

1388
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: start to finish. And he texted me back, I got

1389
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: you all. I'm like somebody gonna get it, like somebody

1390
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 1: to get that boy. And he loves it. That's you know,

1391
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Because you see the change in

1392
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: the switch, in the the long and the technique. You

1393
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 1: can watch a great pass rushing and know someone that

1394
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: loves it because this ain't something you just fall out

1395
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: of bed and do. This is the hardest job on earth.

1396
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: Don't tell me nothing by no damn picture. Don't tell

1397
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: me nothing about hitting, no damn roundball with no round

1398
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 1: damn bad none of that. Rushing the passage? Why is

1399
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: it the hardest? I don't know the play, I don't

1400
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: know the snap count, I don't know the protection in

1401
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: that damn quarterbacks got a clock in his head that

1402
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: he don't want to be hit. And the last time

1403
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: I checked if you're pretty good at this. They had

1404
01:15:55,320 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: a plan for your ass, right, plan for y'all ask

1405
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: because if they don't have a player for you, the

1406
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 1: game is over right. So Vaughn is a motherfucker. Oh

1407
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 1: my god, Oh my god. I call him the blind

1408
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 1: assassin them damn glasses. God damn. I'm like, I'm like,

1409
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: such a nice guy too. He's a good dude too. Boy,

1410
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm telling about want the good brothers too. Boy, Sorry,

1411
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: in them damn glasses. He will not take them all

1412
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: a look. Can that motherfucker not see? He can't see

1413
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 1: who's your favorite offensive player in the NFL right now?

1414
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: Right now? Like, who's the guy? Like if you're flipping

1415
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: the channels, you're just gonna you're gonna stop to watch.

1416
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 1: There's too many quarterbacks, you know, all them damn quarterbacks

1417
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: to and Rodgers, Tom Brady, when they on any, Matt

1418
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 1: Ryan any, when they when they when they when they're

1419
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: throwing the damn on, when they're spending it, there's something

1420
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 1: to watch. But I would I love to watch a

1421
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 1: game where you're spending it and now you gotta deal

1422
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: with a defender coming after that ass and now you

1423
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: gotta just you know what, I'm saying, I want a

1424
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: good game. I want I want both sides to be

1425
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: able to rush the past. I want both sides of

1426
01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: me to run the ball, you know, dump it off,

1427
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: do something that Cameric boys, damn Good Down and damn

1428
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 1: New Orleans. I mean, ship him, Dante Freeman, McCaffrey and

1429
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 1: fucking Carolina put her damn little cat backs coming from

1430
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 1: right now, motherfucker. It feels so wide open. I'm gonna throw.

1431
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw more names. Come on, get quick, hits,

1432
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: Cam Newton? Is he great? Why not? Who the funk

1433
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 1: shows up at the Super Bowl and pops like that?

1434
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: You know we saw you. Look at the ball. That's

1435
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: the Church's money. Dad, you're asking that nose first. You've

1436
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 1: been playing football since you're a little bitty boy. You

1437
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 1: didn't just do that at the biggest stage in the

1438
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: world and didn't show up with the press calling with you.

1439
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 1: Only you ain't got nothing to say. Man, He told

1440
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 1: us he was gonna do something that no other black

1441
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 1: quarterback I've ever done in the Super Bowl. I guess

1442
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 1: he ain't old enough to remember. January twenty six, nineteen

1443
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: ninety two, and Doug Williams won the m v P

1444
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: or Russell Wilson winning in a couple of years before.

1445
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 1: I you know, these kids is just fifteen minutes of

1446
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: the last thing they saw because he did do something

1447
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: that you know what the black quarterback did at the

1448
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He went down powdered like a little bit

1449
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 1: with them ugly ass What do they call those capre

1450
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: pet They need to put a dress code in may man,

1451
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 1: just stop it, stop, just stop it. What was the

1452
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: full full for at that the at the draft with them?

1453
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: I was looking at the shoes and this necess area

1454
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: colde really on the shoes with some fucking clothes on. Man,

1455
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 1: pull your pants up, pull your bridge. I want to

1456
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 1: see your underwear. Nothing about your underwear sexy. I would

1457
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 1: have free go hunt figured out the draw. I still

1458
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 1: don't want to see him. Nobody want to see him.

1459
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 1: They feel great, Okay, Odell, is he great? No? Can

1460
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 1: he be great? Yes? But you have to put in

1461
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 1: the work that now is a weekend, week out thing

1462
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 1: where that great catch you made with them gloves because

1463
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 1: you can't make that catching out the gloves right, I

1464
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 1: mean running back anybody, I'm telling you you can't. My

1465
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: son stops the ball from rotating. It stops the ball

1466
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: from it stops the ball from some fucking Jewish white

1467
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 1: kids with on. I was like, these are the best

1468
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:23,560
Speaker 1: football players ever. Nine year old. I put the clubs on.

1469
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm fucking hey man technology. I remember

1470
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: when we used to wear those Newmans and if a

1471
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 1: drop of water got on them, you take them off

1472
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: and throw them on the right in the middle of field.

1473
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: They band stick them with my man, it's better than stick.

1474
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 1: But it's like it don't drill, they don't get wet.

1475
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: You ain't gotta worry about them. They got an endless supply.

1476
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: Him on the sideline for you, so so unbelievable he

1477
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: can be. But you gotta give me something more than

1478
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: just one handed catches. I want the eighteen yard d

1479
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 1: I want that square in, I want that cross the middle.

1480
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 1: I want that that you want want. I wanted all.

1481
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: You know what I call Randy Moss the guillotine because

1482
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: he chopped your head off eighty yards over Sammy yards.

1483
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: So Terrell Owens was an ice cream scooper. He take

1484
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 1: chunks out of it. How many big chunks? Yeah, he looked, Damn,

1485
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: who's been in my ice cream? T o taking chunks

1486
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 1: at you. That's what you need as a receiver. Give

1487
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 1: me something other than just the spectacular one handed catching

1488
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 1: the corner on the sideline, and that he was looking

1489
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: for the one hand to catch when he when he

1490
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 1: messed up his ankle. Because if you make that catch,

1491
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,320
Speaker 1: you think about putting your feet on the ground. Once

1492
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: you do this, and it goes through your head, not

1493
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: a body of lasses. Mean, you get rolled up. That's

1494
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 1: how you get who who? What receivers? Who else? Antonio's

1495
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 1: I mean his dad was touchdown a brown. I mean

1496
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: you gotta understand. I mean, horses don't make sheet. I've

1497
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: been telling people this for years. If you walk over

1498
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 1: that at the construction site and you're running your kid

1499
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: over there every Saturday afternoon, running his head up against

1500
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 1: the football, not the chances he's gonna be good at that,

1501
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: of course, it don't make seat. Who else? I mean,

1502
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:08,879
Speaker 1: let's look, I mean what we got Julio is a beast. Jesus,

1503
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:14,640
Speaker 1: the size of these kids has It's the evolution of man. Right,

1504
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I say a steroid in the milk

1505
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 1: because my mom dad that big, remember that, that that

1506
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: red top. That's the only thing I'll feed my son

1507
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: if you well, I'm homoginized, you know what I'm talking about.

1508
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: That red top baby's just steroid in that milk. I'm

1509
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: telling you, don't did the evolution of man like Kim

1510
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: Cam Newton sizelous. He's like bodyguard size. They didn't buy

1511
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 1: the guy. That motherfucker's huge. He makes somebody guard want

1512
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: to go to the gym, That's what I'm telling you.

1513
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 1: And then Dante Cold Pebble was like that too. It's

1514
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,799
Speaker 1: just a couple of dudes that are really freaking class. Campbell,

1515
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's look at the size of a door,

1516
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: two of them going sideways. It's just ridiculous the size

1517
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 1: of some of these people. Man. I mean, but that's

1518
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 1: the game that they're getting bigger, strong. Ezekiel, what is

1519
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 1: your take on him? The talent and then all this

1520
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 1: other ship. I'm questioning the talent because the officer line

1521
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 1: when it wasn't tact, we ain't great when it wasn't

1522
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 1: I adn't see that. Well, let me go and just

1523
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 1: get these three yards and maybe I can bust the

1524
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:26,679
Speaker 1: tackle or whatever. You see that pouting and the at

1525
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: know holds opening and in that and that and that

1526
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 1: that that that griming is because the last time I check,

1527
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: when you run for that kind of yards, people circle you.

1528
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 1: And now you gotta come back now with a new plan,

1529
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 1: because if you do it one year, you got lucky.

1530
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 1: Do it two years that could be a fluid. Three

1531
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 1: years now we might have something called consistency. And these

1532
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: kids were to be flown to the top of the

1533
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 1: list and the greatest thing since Beatty White. You know

1534
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and I don't and I don't understand it.

1535
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: It can't be that instant gratification. Son, Really about Brian,

1536
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 1: how can you go from being one of the most

1537
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: dominant violent receipt even he used to catch that ball

1538
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, that's a violent ass receiver after

1539
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 1: he catched the ball. Now any time about making him

1540
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 1: a slot and he done the team? Is that his personality?

1541
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 1: Is that his age? Is it a combination of all? No, no, no,

1542
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 1: I won't even make the semifinalists with what's going on now.

1543
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just that simple. You have to have

1544
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 1: a body of work to talk about the Hall of fame,

1545
01:23:28,200 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: and we're talking about splash in the pan. That's what

1546
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 1: that is. Splash in the pan no consistency. Jason Witten

1547
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: has a shot, but there's not many tight ends in

1548
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Is he gonna with Deaz? Is

1549
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: he gonna wind up? What's gonna be? What do you

1550
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: think his outcome is gonna be for this season? Because

1551
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: as of the recording of this, I don't know about

1552
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,360
Speaker 1: a job. I don't think he asked one. It's gonna

1553
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: you know what I heard through the great vine around

1554
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 1: three million dollars and somebody is signed him around that number.

1555
01:23:57,040 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 1: So it's a money thing for him now because he

1556
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:05,759
Speaker 1: got offered eight, right, I don't know what you're taking

1557
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 1: the three and it's oh, you're taking it or a walk.

1558
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 1: That's what happens once once the door closes on an

1559
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 1: opportunity like that there there, it's like it's like, essentially,

1560
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 1: this sounds myself. It's a business decision. It's like I

1561
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 1: could get it for tea. I tell people this all

1562
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 1: the time. The NFL is a business. And if you

1563
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 1: don't realize that you asked me to get out of it,

1564
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: would you ever coach? No, that was a too long

1565
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: I like camps. I like kids. I like kids who

1566
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 1: want to work you know, you gotta you gotta camp

1567
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: or something like that. I'll come in ninety minutes, two hours.

1568
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 1: You know I worked with him. I'll do that all

1569
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 1: day long. But you know what's long. It's a six

1570
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: o'clock damn coaches meeting. And that's if you're lucky to

1571
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,600
Speaker 1: have it at It's a hard job. Six o'clock coaches me.

1572
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 1: Let mean your asses up of your bed and in

1573
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: your car by ten after five driving to the job,

1574
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: because nobody wants to live on top of the damn

1575
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 1: sully at least the driving. Now you go ahead, traffic,

1576
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: come on, So you gotta get to the job. Get

1577
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 1: yourself situated. Now you have a staff meeting, and this

1578
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:20,400
Speaker 1: is the thing that got me. Who's my defensive coordinator?

1579
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 1: Who's my head coach? That's now gonna yell at me

1580
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 1: about what this dumbass didn't do? After then sat there

1581
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 1: for five days on the row spoon feating his ass

1582
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:34,799
Speaker 1: like apple sauce. You know, I would have a higher

1583
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: sense of what you can get done than you would,

1584
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,560
Speaker 1: and I can't because I can see it, and I

1585
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to understand why you can't see it.

1586
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: That's why most great players aren't great coaches. It was

1587
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 1: a little grunt that was over there looking at everything

1588
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: that now can break that down for somebody expectations. And

1589
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 1: what I see somebody took. One of my friends told me,

1590
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: was like listen to ass whole we oh ain't a

1591
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: first smell of all the favors. Turn it down to

1592
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: you turned down the observing and you didn't see that.

1593
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 1: You didn't catch mr fucking know it all. You like

1594
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: the age student answering all the questions in the front.

1595
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 1: We're not fuck no idea. I was sucking sleeping up

1596
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:27,560
Speaker 1: but on the football field. But you know what I know.

1597
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,679
Speaker 1: I learned that you had to pick your spots because

1598
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 1: if you just keep beating them upside the head, they'll

1599
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 1: they'll eventually think that they're stupid. If you say it

1600
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: to them enough times, they'll eventually think it. So you

1601
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 1: have to give them some words of encouragement and you

1602
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: just have to find a better way to leave them.

1603
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,599
Speaker 1: That's all it is. If you if you leave your

1604
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 1: team and you lead it with the nine fish and

1605
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: not rose petals all the time, sometimes you know, changing

1606
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: it up, they'll hate you to death. And I don't

1607
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 1: have many of my teammates that hate me. A couple

1608
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 1: do and listen. I'll take it. I'll tell you everybody,

1609
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: but I'll take more than fight for me than the

1610
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:05,759
Speaker 1: one that all Right, fucking Warren Sap, you started your podcast.

1611
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 1: What's the name of your podcast? Route Listen. I want

1612
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: to see Gruden. I want to see Warren Sapp, Brett

1613
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 1: Farve open the fucking roller decks you in shock. I

1614
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: got it. You promise you you get shut down the podcast. Promise, brother,

1615
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see a little factor yea, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1616
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't go without that. I love that part,

1617
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 1: you know, the fucking deal. Yeah, but I'm getting old.

1618
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: My CT act up sometimes they acted up sometimes when

1619
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 1: you forget. I was in the middle of going down

1620
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 1: to damn draft and forgot the quarterback I was starting.

1621
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 1: I mean, just drawing the blank. My producer right now

1622
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 1: beside me, he can't say ship. I'm looking at him like,

1623
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: well fuck it, let's just rewind this and figure out

1624
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 1: how we got out of this. Just unwrapping. You made

1625
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 1: a joke about that. Now, what is your take on CT? Like?

1626
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 1: Only Warren Sap you pull that off? You know what?

1627
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 1: I you have to because I was in an age

1628
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: where we went to camp training camp to get in

1629
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: shape and decide who were the thicket three tough badasses

1630
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 1: that was gonna leave there because we I mean speak

1631
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:22,719
Speaker 1: Layman's football terms. I formation. I am the full back,

1632
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 1: you are the mic linebacker. You are four yards five

1633
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 1: yards back behind the ball, and I'm good four and

1634
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 1: a half yards behind the ball too. In the guard

1635
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 1: in the center, are gonna open this a gap and

1636
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 1: me and you were gonna run into each other, and

1637
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if I can destroy you to let

1638
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 1: the running back run off my shoulder and go for

1639
01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 1: three more yards, and you're gonna see if you can

1640
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,640
Speaker 1: go through me. Boom knocked me over and make the

1641
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 1: tackle for a gain of one. And we used to

1642
01:28:54,560 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 1: do this eight nine times each each time we started drill.

1643
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: That was that. That was the lead play. Is that

1644
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 1: where you think a lot of it the damage came

1645
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 1: from from the gods, from your ran before the pounding,

1646
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 1: because not even in the games. You know what, we

1647
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: used to say, straight ahead, no fat dodge, hit it

1648
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 1: like you live it hard and fans get wet. I'll

1649
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 1: talk about boom boom boom. And I used to look

1650
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 1: at this line. It's just gotta be a better way

1651
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:31,559
Speaker 1: because I see the wall. But there should be five

1652
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 1: options from me. That's over under the left, right and through.

1653
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: I didn't like to through the through hurt only. I

1654
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 1: go through for certain occasions, NFC championship games, who were

1655
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,640
Speaker 1: Bowl playoffs, and sometimes you gotta go through. But I

1656
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 1: don't want to go through every day. And I remember

1657
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 1: those long training camps. Should they used to have three

1658
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 1: of days with Ray Perkins down in Tampa. Yah, three

1659
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 1: of days. Unbelievable. So I mean it. You ever heard

1660
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma drill? Explain what it is? I've heard of it.

1661
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 1: Two people laying on that yeah, the hand, no, but

1662
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 1: about five yards three yards apart from each other. I

1663
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: blow the whistle. We both roll over and see you're

1664
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 1: gonna no no ball, get up and run into each other.

1665
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. That's what the jewels for. You

1666
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 1: remember that you saw the girls on the beach when

1667
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 1: they ran into on the internet. Basically that but they

1668
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 1: got off the ground and got up without the ball,

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Speaker 1: And that was the drill. Everybody did you went down

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Speaker 1: the line? Oklahoma, you and you, you and you. I

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01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 1: still see that today, when you're talking about the accumulation

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01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 1: of sub concussion hits, because that's what we're talking about.

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01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 1: We're not talking about the the knockout poom, the one

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01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:49,960
Speaker 1: you clearly see. We're talking about the one that, yeahs

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01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 1: what I tell parents all the time. Would you take

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01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 1: your ten year old and hit him upside the head

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01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 1: three hundred times as he was on his way out

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01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,360
Speaker 1: to do to go to school? And why the hell

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01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 1: do you allow Sam the the Wall Street guy or

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01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 1: whoever the hell of the guy that got the money

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01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 1: that now you know, coaches the team on Saturday to

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01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 1: do that to your child? Are you kidding me? Let's

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01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 1: get him in the chess clubs, tennant tennis, basketball, swimming.

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01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 1: Let's you know what I tell I tell Black parents

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01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 1: all the time. You know why there's only one type

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01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 1: of woods called earl woods. To these damn kids to

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01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 1: the damn golf course. You know why there's only one

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01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 1: Venus and Sareena Couse. Richard William took them to damn

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01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 1: girls to the tennis court. I bet you if you

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01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: take cause I've seen mofis Oh the Frenchman, and I

1691
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 1: know it's some kids out there with some hand eye

1692
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:42,680
Speaker 1: coordination with a racket if you set them in the mill.

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01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I think black American kids could do anything.

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01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:55,160
Speaker 1: When we let the little boys, David's boy swim, he

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01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 1: went and got him a gold medal, Gabby. Whenever we

1696
01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: see one in in any of these other sports, they

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01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 1: go get that soccer. Listen, there's money and plenty of it. Dog,

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01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 1: So do you think so? So? So we don't expose

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01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: our children to it because we're so centralized with football

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01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: and basketball. We've left baseball alone to the latinos. Hey man,

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Speaker 1: they tell you that we got a black pear David

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01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 1: or Ts in Boston. There's no brother's name or tas

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01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 1: right right, Blad, I got one name, Mookie, right right

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01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 1: up the alley. That's it right? Oh god, Warrant Sap,

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01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 1: we did the col ab the Killer col Ap podcast,

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01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 1: the Killer col A podcast. I like that rapport out

1707
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 1: of here. This is joy all right? What can they say? Okay?

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01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 1: I hyped it up because I told you it was

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01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 1: going to be hyped. I want to think, Warrant Sapp,

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01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:54,680
Speaker 1: that was only part one? Was that good enough? Were

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01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 1: you not entertained? I want to thank the great Warren

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01:32:57,640 --> 01:32:59,799
Speaker 1: Sapp for rock with me on the I M wrapper

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Speaker 1: Pot Stereo podcast. Check his podcast out root. Do you

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Speaker 1: know where to find us? D m u s Instagram, US,

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Speaker 1: tweet us, Michael Rapports, G Moody, Miles Jordan's The Dust

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Speaker 1: Brothers again, SAP. Thanks for rocking me say I'm Rapports

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Speaker 1: stereo podcast, I'm Out