WEBVTT - Bowl Chat - Special Guest Ben Mandelker! 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:04.680 Yet we're rolling live from the Farmland Fresh Dairy studios. 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:06.240 This is serial Killers. 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:10.520 This is Serial Killers. I'm Scotty b oh yeah, and 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:13.319 our friend Ben Mendelkerr is here. 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:15.560 Hi. How's it going. 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:19.520 We met Ben in Austin last month during the iHeartRadio 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:23.200 Podcast Awards and his podcast Watch. What Crappens was up 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:25.840 for was a pop Culture Best pop Culture. 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:28.560 Best pop Culture Podcast, and they won. 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:31.840 We did not, So we've invited a winner on the 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.440 show today because we're just a bunch of giant losers. 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:36.760 And this is going to be an interesting hybrid type 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.240 of podcast because we're going to start it off as 0:00:39.240 --> 0:00:41.040 a Serial Killers and then I have to get the 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:42.479 hell out here because I have an appointment. So we're 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:43.720 going to turn it into a bowl chat where you 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:46.199 guys will just chat and chat and chat about all 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.600 things Bravo that I know nothing about and board games. 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.560 He also likes board games, So down to talk board games. 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:53.800 Oh I wish I didn't take that limited edition board 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:55.840 game home that General Mills sent us. You know General 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.760 Mills made uh yeah, the Lucky Charms mouse Trap game. 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.760 But what Yes, it's Lucky Charms Mousetrap and it's with 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.440 Lucky the Leprechaun instead of the Yeah, I'm sorry, I 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:06.600 stole it from my daughter Cooper. 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:07.080 That's okay. 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:08.240 Otherwise you guys could have played it. 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:10.240 It's probably it's probably better to be with Cooper. 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:14.360 Yes, all right, so let's get rolling because, uh this 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.000 cereal is well. First of all, what cereals do you like? 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:18.440 You a sugar guy or you were like, what do 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:18.720 you like? 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:20.920 Well, unfortunately, I'm at a place in my life where 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:24.440 I have to eat healthy cereal like Cashee, the Cashee 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.360 herty O's or whatever it's called, like the hearts. It's 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.200 like barely has any flavor and it purports to be 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:34.040 good for my heart. But I grew up eating honey 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.240 nut cheerios. That was like my go to. Then I 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:40.160 had a period of time where I ate life and 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:49.280 I've always loved Special Ki plainly. Last week, I have 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.200 to say this may be TMI, but I feel like 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:52.360 this is a place for sharing. 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:52.920 Yes it is. 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.920 Last week I had my first baby's first colonoscopy. I 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.760 I had to have a low fiber diet and they 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.000 said popped ry cereal and I said, I am eating 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.400 Special K this week. Congratulat I so much Special K. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:06.840 I had it for like breakfast, I had it for 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:08.720 lunch because I love Special K. 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.079 And yeah, and me being the big boy that I am, 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:13.959 refused to callon oscy and I just pooped in the 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.639 box the call of guard. You know that thing? 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.359 Yeah, that's two different. I think it's I feel like 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.079 it's two different. Yeah, I guess kind of is. 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:22.720 When my doctor said it was fine, and I'm all good, 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:24.840 So let's move on and need some healthy, crappy cereals. 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.280 So the one that I werelling to do one today 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.440 because this is abridged, the one that I chose for 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:32.440 us because you like healthy, is going to be a 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:36.520 disgusting cereal good this is This is one of the 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:38.120 Magic Spoon serials. Have you heard of them? 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:41.840 Oh no, I haven't, But I like this hot daddy 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:42.760 on the on the front. 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:44.880 What is that clip art you caught? 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:46.640 Where's that cana cana? 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.560 Yeah, there's like a muscle daddy on the front. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.560 So okay, So Magic Spoon is a line of cereals. 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:55.560 It started off just being sold on the internet. You 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:57.359 saw ads on Facebook all the time. 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.680 Like your podcast never was. So we're sponsored by farm 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:01.799 Lane for Daies think you so much Harmly Fresh dairies. 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:03.880 Oh can you eat cow's milk? Drink cows milk? 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.400 Perfect amazing, But like they sponsored a whole bunch of 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.360 stuff because they're like they're really leaning into like millennial 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.240 focused advertising. So they were on a ton of podcasts 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.520 like you want a Healthy Cereal Magic Spoon, but not 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.640 Cereal podcasts now. I think it's because we've trashed I 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.799 think four out of five of them. 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:22.240 See, that's the one thing. I don't really think that 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.440 a cereal company could sponsor us because we would just 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:25.680 crap on them if we didn't like it, you know, 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:27.240 you know we we like to tell the truth and 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.639 tell things how it is, and if it's not good, 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.640 we're gonna say it's not good. So anyway, Magic Spoon 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.360 started as just internet only. Now you can get them 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.720 at Target, Walmart, big supermarkets and everything. And these are 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:37.920 like ten dollars a box. 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.960 Ten Well, Cereal has gone up in general, Mike, cos 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.080 it has, it has, so you have to that's a 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.200 lot of money to spend for not a lot of flavor. 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.720 Right, so this this is cinnamon roll flavor. We have 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.400 not had very good experience with Magic Spoon. Cereals. This 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.240 is probably like the six or seventh one, and I 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.360 think only one of them we did not spit out. 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.800 Okay, do they all have like some sort of muscled 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.040 ad on the front they all things? 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.880 Yeah, they all have the strange box, aren't like that? 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:06.360 I don't know if we have any. 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.680 I know, I think one of them has like Ursula, 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:10.720 but like their version of ursula, like a weird. 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:15.760 It's ever like a gay that's working on the graphic Yeah, yes, right, yes, 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:17.160 and then it is canvying. 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:18.960 And the bag is like only three quarters full. So 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.719 after all that, it's ten bucks for seven ounces of nothing. 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:22.719 So anyway, it. 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:26.880 Looks nice, yes, yeah, like the meaning like the it 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.520 looks like the graphic design person definitely was like they 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:31.560 just got out of college. 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.119 They've got their first job. They're working at Magic Spoon. 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:34.840 They're doing the thing. 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:36.000 Yeah, they're trying. 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:37.520 And I could tell you. The problem that we always 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.520 have with Magic Spoon is it it goes. It starts 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.880 off okay, and then once you have it in your 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.479 mouth for more than about five seconds, it turns to 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:47.799 complete horse craft. 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:49.080 I've had Zeal do that. 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.760 Yeah, it has that weird taste. 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.120 Because it's grain free. Why are they proud that it's 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:54.760 grain free. 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.599 I guess gluten free people like them or something. 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:56.919 I don't know. 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:58.240 So I'm gonna go back to the formula of Fresh 0:04:58.279 --> 0:04:59.000 Dairy's fridge. 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:04.159 I'm going to inspect their their word, their word jumble 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:04.640 in the back. 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:09.200 It's also too much like I mean, this is unappealing 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.599 to me, Like, give me three words, not twenty seven. 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:15.719 It's very moonshine. They have moonshine. This is a word here. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.520 It's a young hip cereal. 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:23.640 Oh pardner, that's spelled in the dialect version partner not partner. 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.240 I'm trying to see if we have any Andrew. 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:26.680 He won't let me. 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:28.799 I found moonshine, young moonshine. 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.320 Yeah, perfect, there's probably a better off with moonshine. But 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.679 we're using Farmland, Fresh Areas organic whole milk today. 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:40.599 Oh so, Ben, I'm excited, don't be Oh you already 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:41.560 milks mine? I milk. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.520 It's it smells. It smells a little bit like a 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:44.120 cinnamon roll. 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:49.680 It's giving cinnamon right. It's looking yeah, it's looking vaguely 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.000 like I'm trying to mat they. 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.680 Look like fruit loops, but not fruity colored. 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.880 It looks a little bit like you've got honey smacks 0:05:57.920 --> 0:05:58.640 in there. Almost. 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:07.880 But yeah, okay, okay, not bad, right, Yeah, keep chowing. 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:09.680 This one might not turn. 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:15.440 I don't right right, my first bite is probably fine. 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:19.359 It's nice. It has more flavor than my cashi. I 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:19.800 feel like you. 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.400 Failed us on this one, Scott. I was expecting bad. 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:24.000 I got somewhat decent. 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:25.520 That's fine. 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:27.159 Yeah, she's not bad. 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.599 In fact, I like the airy texture. 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:32.880 It is an interesting texture. 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:34.960 I kind of like your podcast gets sponsored by Magic 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:35.679 Spoon after. 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.479 We invite Magic Spoon to be a sponsor of Watcher Craps. 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:46.480 I mean, look, it's not spectacular, it's not incredibly sweet. 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:51.599 It tastes healthy, and it doesn't have that that after 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:55.120 Stevia slash bean crap taste that we get usually from 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.000 these type of cereals. So it's not horrific. 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.039 I would dare to say, I actually like it. 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.360 Yeah, wow, I like. 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:07.599 It shockingly decent. I do you know a rating skill? No, okay, 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:09.520 so what we do is a bowl is like a 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.120 full star. A spoon is like a half a star. 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.840 Up to five balls. Yeah, so I'm simply going to 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:17.600 give it two balls because it's not as bad as 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.000 I thought, but I don't love these type of cereals. 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.000 I'm going to give it three bowls in a spoon, 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.240 Like it's really not bad for a cinnamon cereal. She's 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:28.760 it's a nice alternative. Yeah, I think I like three 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.040 bowls in a spoon. Yeah, I think that's I think 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.280 that's just right. It's like, it's not a top tier. 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.520 It's definitely no special k No, it's not a honey 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:37.120 nut cheurio. 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.520 And it doesn't have like the indulgent fun of a 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.200 frosted flake or like a cover above. I feel you 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.560 on that, but it's actually like quite tasty, and I 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.120 really do enjoy this airy texture. But would you go. 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:50.720 Pay ten bucks a bocks for this? Or are you 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:52.680 just gonna buy honey nut curios for a dollar ninety 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:54.679 nine when it's on sale you ten dollars? 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.120 Ten dollars may actually knock it down, spoon. 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.000 Oh, look at that. I don't do it by pricing. 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:01.720 But you know the. 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.520 Value is not great. But if we weren't considering value. 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.200 I mean you can it's your rating. 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:08.800 I guess you know. I know I'm still gonna I'm 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.080 gonna rate it based on you know, because sometimes if 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.160 someone were to serve it to you, if you're at 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.680 someone's house and they're like, here's some cereal, you're not 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.960 considering values. I'm gonna Keep'm gonna keep it out of 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:19.960 three bowls on this moon. 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:21.640 And this actually was served to us by one of 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.560 our listeners, Matt sent this to us, so we didn't 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:24.600 pay for it. So what the hell. 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.720 I'm finishing my entire my entire cup of cereal. 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.600 That's I'm very impressed. 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.480 For a party. Get you actually can take the match, Yes. 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.240 Please do, but make sure you guys take a picture first, 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.720 so listen, I get a bell. I'm so sorry. This 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:38.960 is a day where I just have a lot of 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:40.880 my plate. I feel like Andrew today were so busy, 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.280 so busy, lots of meetings, lots of schedule things. Uh 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.320 so I'm gonna go. You guys, do what you want. Yeah, 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.560 I mean, hey, feel free to dive into some of 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.920 the old rantid cereal. I won't do that, you know, 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.920 Try what you want, Maria. Yeah, that's yeah. It's been 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:54.480 sitting there for months and months and months, and it's 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.600 probably opened. The bag is ripped open. So just enjoy 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.719 the staleness. All right, so thank you so much. Thank 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:01.320 it was pleasure, absolutely pleasure to you. 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.360 And next time he comes back, we'll do a full episode. 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:06.320 But now we'll go into more of a bull chat. 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.800 Hey do your thing great, you have a mic. 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:10.839 Now I'm going to take over this mic. Here. 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.040 All I do is press the stop record button. 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:15.760 Well, you just press the stop and then just title 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.080 it with this keyboard here, okay, and then enter and 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:18.600 it'll save it. 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:19.400 I'll sunday. Thank you. 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:21.840 I take my little cups here for Oh wow, you're 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:22.719 actually taking things home. 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:23.920 That's a surprise. Yeah. 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:28.480 Nice, Okay, great, bye Scott, Bye Scott, we'll miss you. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:29.600 You guys can just go ahead talk. 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:30.920 I think I forgot something. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.920 Okay, well great, awesome, okay, So a huge fan of 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:35.520 the podcast. 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.520 Thank you very much. Ten out of ten, thank you. 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:42.000 And you've been doing it for ten years twelve years? Twelve? Yes, 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.280 oh wow, that is a whole bag of marshmallows, I can. Yeah, 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.840 that's wild. Yeah, we've been doing watcher crappings for twelve years. 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.880 We started in yeah, twenty twelve. Wow, which is wild. 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.800 I know it's crazy. So, like, what made you want 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.320 to start like did you and Ronnie just hit it 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:00.000 off immediately? 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:04.160 Like where'd you guys meet? Yeah, So I used to blog. 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.319 That's like my origin story is blogging. I started a 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.840 bloger twenty years ago with my friend and the blog 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.800 it was called tv Gasm, and we used to write 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.160 recaps of TV and at that time, no one was 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:18.640 doing TV recaps and so it was like it became 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:23.480 it really blew up and wound up actually selling the blog, 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.560 which is wild. That was really the peak of like 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.200 what everyone was like, Wow, blogs, What's this new exciting 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.920 thing that's gonna be here forever. So we were able 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:37.640 to cash. So then we were now like official bloggers 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.760 and we were like, you know, we were working. We 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.280 were bought by Beata Murray Productions, which did like the 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:47.000 Real World and the Challenge and all that stuff, and 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.800 so now we needed to like build out our blogging 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.679 staff and so we had we sort of like put 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.200 out the word like, hey, submit to write, and so 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.720 Ronnie he submitted and his sample was really good. So 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.200 he started writing for TV gasm. And he lived in 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:05.320 La so I'd met him a few times and he 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.920 was really cool, really funny. So that's how we met 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:12.640 and then fast forward to twenty ten or eleven or so, 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:17.319 and I had left TV Gasm, I'd started a new blog, 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.640 and that new blog, I had started to blog about 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:23.720 the Real Housewives, and I got hired to host a 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:28.679 web show about the Real housewives called Housewives Hodown and 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:33.120 naturally I love that title. Yes, And so my job 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:34.760 as the host was that I always had to bring 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:38.240 on guests, and so I would bring on Ronnie because 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.959 I knew that he was covering the Real Housewives at 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:45.319 TV gasm and he's funny also, yeah, and so I'd 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:46.679 bring him on and we just had like a lot 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:50.000 of fun doing it. And also my friend Matt, I'd 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:51.760 bring him on, and the three of us always had 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:55.440 like really good chemistry. And then the web show, the 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:57.280 network that the web show was on, just went down, 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.360 and so but we still really enjoyed doing what we did. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.400 So we thought, like, let's start a podcast. 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.280 Yeah, you know, and I feel like you were early 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:06.880 to the podcast game, like twelve years ago, like nobody 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:08.920 was doing podcasts yeah, or if they did, it was 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.040 like a we don't really know how to get it. 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.120 Hope for the best, like maybe we'll find it some 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:14.120 place like there were. 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.480 Definitely were podcasts enough that there was you know, the 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:19.360 Apple Podcasts store Ateah that time, it was like there 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:22.360 was a podcast action on iTunes and there were podcasts, 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:26.040 but it was really Cereal that made podcasting like a 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:30.280 thing that like everyone particular like Mainsture, it made it mainstream. 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.880 He made a thing that like a viable form of 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.440 entertainment for people. So yeah, we were I think maybe 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:41.240 about two years before Cereal. Cereal, Yeah, we started podcasting. 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:42.400 We invented it. 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.720 I think you were actually the first podcast yeah for sure. Yeah, sure, yeah, 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.040 we came up with the word wow. Love that. So 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.280 what Housewives did you like? Would you say? 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:51.440 Is? 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.280 I know Diamond touched on it, but what's like your 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.599 favorite version of the Housewives. 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.320 Well, I've always loved Ronnie. Ronney has always been my 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:03.160 absolute favorite, like number one. Like I just I think 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:07.360 Rony is It's just perfection and I've always loved it. 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.559 I don't love the new cast. I just don't think 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:10.680 that they have the right energy. 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:12.640 The only one I've seen is this new one, and 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:14.000 I have to tell you, I was kind of like, 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:15.640 I don't really know what's going on here. 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:17.960 Yeah, I think that Bravo cast it to be like, 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.440 look at these these like five fabulous or six fabulous 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.120 women that you can be friends with, and like, I 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:25.120 don't want to be friends with my real housewives. Now. 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.520 I want to laugh at their delusion. I want to 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.760 like see them and say, how do these people exist 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:32.640 in a real world? How do these people go to 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.559 a restaurant and act like this? That's what I go. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.199 For for a real housewife. 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.960 Same, I don't go for like this is the real 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.400 New York like this is I want to like, Oh 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:44.480 my god, I just want to sit and watch fashion influencers. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.480 I don't, I don't. I curse. 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:49.199 Yeah, I don't give a fuck. No, no, no, no, 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.839 Like when I watch reality TV, I feel like I 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.960 grew up in reality TV, like Flavor of Love, legit, 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.800 Like that was my eighth grade high school experience was 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:02.559 Flavor of Love. So for me, I'm like, the more delusional, 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.280 the better. So when it's not and you're trying to 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.840 make me feel who is coming through on this mic? 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.360 This is the fun part about these studios. We don't 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:14.240 know how they work. Hey Diamond, I can hear you 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:18.800 in here? Oh, I can hear you in here? No, no, 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:23.160 I can hear you, can hear you. 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.080 She doesn't get it. You're a guest on Serial Killers 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:28.000 at the moment. 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.080 Hold on, maybe I move one of these two. 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:34.080 I don't know about touching these yea. 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.920 So this controls like all of New York in here, 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:45.360 and so I'm just casually like great, yeah, now, oh great, 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:51.520 it's fixed, amazing, exciting, great, Okay, so we're back to 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:55.040 the show. Amazing, show, fabulous, fun, little technical difficulties. 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.640 By the way, should I be like looking at the 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.320 camera like well we talk or looking at some times 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.280 I look at that and I'm like, I don't. Then 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.640 I feel like i'm too It's like NPR, like the 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:10.840 NPR skit on SNL. I never saw that. Oh sorry baby, sorry. 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.040 But yes, flavor of love. I want delusional I love 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:16.360 delusional reality people. I don't understand the trend of trying 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:17.960 to make them normalized, like they. 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.520 Are not normal. It's I think a lot of it 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:26.120 is that it's like it's shortsighted attempts to you know. 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.160 I think in the past few years, there's been obviously 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.200 a lot of discussion about giving terrible people platforms in 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.760 American culture and and the and the dangers that come 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.960 with that, which is I think a totally important thing 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.520 to discuss, and it's also very valid. We do not 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.880 want to be giving terrible people platforms because it's way 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:49.040 more insidious than we ever expected the ramifications of that. 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:55.400 That being said, for the Real House delusions, how about 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.320 we do more public service announcements like please don't like, 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.320 let's watch these people make fun of them and like, 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.440 let's not take any lessons from them. Okay, like let's not. 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.560 And I think what happened was that Bravo may have 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:12.600 tried to like pivot a little too hard into like 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:14.520 we're not gonna we don't we want to give like 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:19.360 fresh exciting faces a platform. Instead, it's like yeah, but 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.560 like make them delusion, make sure they're still delusional. 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.360 Yes, you have to cast a delusion otherwise, like why 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.600 are we doing a show? Yeah, there's no point. 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:28.200 We need to be able to make fun of them, 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:29.840 Like I just don't think that I'm tuning in to 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.560 to feel like these people are my friends. That being said, 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:38.760 I I have watched Tomorrow Night's Summer House, and I 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.560 can't say anything because it's embargoed, but I was definitely 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.640 watching along like they were my friends. I was sitting 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.520 there like with like my like my chin on my 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.320 on my wrist, just like giggling. Like every time Page 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:54.000 Disorbo made a joke, Page, I'm like, you know, you're 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.920 she's not talking to you, Ben right. So I can 0:16:57.800 --> 0:16:59.960 aspire and I can blur those lives. 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.480 But just once the summer comes around, they tape in 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.440 New York. You haven't been invited to a Summer House party. 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:09.560 A years ago. I went to the Summerhouse in season two. 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:10.960 I love that. 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:15.400 Yeah, So, so Ronny and I would watch for Crappins. 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.920 We do live shows, and the very first big live 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.960 show we ever did was here in New York City, 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:22.919 and that was during season one of Summerhouse, and we 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:27.560 invited Kyle Cook and so Kyle came with Amanda and 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:31.840 Christina Gibson who was on season one came, and Steven 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:33.680 who was on season one and two came. So the 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:35.240 four of them came to our live show, which is 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:39.520 really cool. And as it happened, after that live show, 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.240 I was going out to the Hamptons because my friends 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.080 have a house there which is very boogie, and I 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.639 was like a step into the boogie life. And so 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.040 I told them. I was like, yeah, I'm going out 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.160 to the Hamptons this weekend. They're like, oh, you gotta come 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:51.400 to the house. You gotta come house. I was like yes. 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.920 So we went to the house and like, were they filming? 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:57.919 They were filming. I'm proud to say I was fully 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:02.240 edited out of the footage deemed worthy. Damn. Yeah, but 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:03.879