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Speaker 1: long as it's not taken out of context. Right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So Shadoor Sanders is going to start for the Browns

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Speaker 1: in their first preseason game as Dan Bayer told you yesterday.

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Speaker 1: That's because Joe Flacco is old. You don't want him

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Speaker 1: getting hurt. And you know the other two quarterbacks, Dylan Gabriel,

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Speaker 1: to get a chance to start. But I want you

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Speaker 1: to listen to something that Lewis Ridicks said. Okay, remember

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Speaker 1: Lewis Ridick was a scout in the NFL. He's he's

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Speaker 1: been on a kind of a jet back to success

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Speaker 1: working at ESPN. Here was his take on Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 3: I'm afraid he's gonna get on the field in preseason

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Speaker 3: games without a lot of practice reps, and then they're

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Speaker 3: going to ask him to perform these heroic tasks in

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Speaker 3: That's the kind of battle he's dealing with right now.

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Speaker 3: I know I've seen it. We've been in these camps.

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Speaker 3: We know how that goes. You don't get enough reps,

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, coaches are going, why are you

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Speaker 3: making that mistake. Why aren't you making that check? Well, damn, coach,

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Speaker 3: I never was in there in practice. You never even

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Speaker 3: if anyone can get it done, it's this kid, because

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're making it out like the world is out

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Speaker 1: it's difficult to start a preseason game. What's more difficult

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Speaker 1: That's what Lewis Reddick said. They're setting him up for failure.

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Speaker 1: They would have already moved on sign multiple quarterback. Well,

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Speaker 1: why they signed Tyler Huntley because you need more guys

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Speaker 1: to throw footballs. You can't have one guy throwing two

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Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way. The only thing we care

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Speaker 1: And you can win games when you have more money

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Speaker 1: just throw the ball. We're it's supposed to throw it.

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't have it, throw it away. You know,

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Speaker 1: get everybody what anything to get. Let's make it super

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Speaker 1: simple for you. You're just a rookie. You lineup, you

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Speaker 1: if you can do that, and we can save a

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Speaker 1: But he say, I never forget this. I'd say this

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Speaker 1: with Jason earlier today, like that's entertainment. And yeah, ESPN

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Speaker 1: So the idea that they would rather make Shador Sanders

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Speaker 1: figure out a way to get it done in the game.

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Speaker 1: Just kiss, keep it simple, stupid. But I told you

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Speaker 1: guys this yesterday and I mean it. Shador Sanders is

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Speaker 1: going to be the new Kaepernick if he gets cut

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Speaker 1: We call it love and hate.

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Speaker 4: What did you love?

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Speaker 1: God? I love you, and what did you hate?

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Speaker 1: Clarey is all right to our resident love A boy

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Speaker 2: But I just loved what I saw on social media

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Speaker 6: Did I see something that was from wrestling this weekend?

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Speaker 2: So I don't somebody may have walked away. Again, I'm

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Speaker 7: He has a shock of blonde, bleach blonde hair. He

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Speaker 6: The Miss and Kyle Brant so too real world alum

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's Sam Wu's you left on the weekend.

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Speaker 7: Well, I love a good late afternoon, early evening meet

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Speaker 7: This is a beautiful spot. Went out there for a

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Speaker 1: At the Poor Seasons.

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Speaker 2: Dude, it's so But it was like the way it

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Speaker 1: Were poor seasons, dude, it's a nice thing. A poor

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Speaker 2: Is this a four seasons?

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Speaker 7: Okay, Well this part of the this complex you're in,

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Speaker 2: How about that? That's all I know. I've been filling in.

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Speaker 2: Are we doing two loves?

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Speaker 1: Now? What are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? They're little loves? Do that you can't? You have

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, Can I just do one more little one?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 7: Iowa No, Iowa in the coach's poll, which is perfect.

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Speaker 7: That's right where we want them. No, right where we

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Speaker 2: That's Iowa samming it, folks. It is though.

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Speaker 6: Jay and a third love wasn't in from the weekend

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Speaker 6: Third levels right Monday.

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Speaker 2: It's from Friday to Monday's.

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Speaker 6: I love documentaries. Somebody within these Walls last week said

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Speaker 6: I'm on record here is saying I'm not a big

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Speaker 6: But a good documentary, it's a good American story, well done,

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Speaker 6: of documentaries, I've seen each of the Fire Festival docs.

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Speaker 1: Sure, and I forget.

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Speaker 6: I think I've seen all the Fire Festival documentaries, even

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Speaker 7: And there's going to be a there's going to be

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Speaker 7: firefest again, is what I've heard. Oh really, like with

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Speaker 1: I mean, who would go back for a second time

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Speaker 1: All right, let let's can I give Can I give

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Speaker 6: Sorry, yes, but might But the fire Festival reminded me

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Speaker 1: What's that?

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Speaker 6: The Bristol Motor Speedwall. Oh yeah, was called the fire

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Speaker 6: Festival of Major League Baseball this weekend as rain ruined things.

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Speaker 6: They weren't prepared for the rain. I guess you need

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Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta ask. I mean, maybe maybe this

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: That way? Yeah, that's that's actually a good question. Honest,

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Speaker 2: Show effort, at least for trying to do something cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree. But at some point somebody should

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Speaker 1: It rains.

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Speaker 2: The best picture I saw was the guy with two

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Speaker 2: so it was just chips chips. Hey, yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: All right, let me give you what I left from

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Speaker 1: the weekend. Uh, Sophie Cunningham. Does anyone not have a

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Speaker 1: you got anybody who like celebrating their anniversary, Like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm all I'm doing is a radio host is reading

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Speaker 1: a tweet. Stop throwing dildos on the court. You're going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, someone's gonna get hurt out here. But adds up

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Speaker 2: save it for the Bills games.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that was funny when it was in the Bills game.

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Speaker 2: In the inZone. Those weren't Neon Green. That's what I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it was quite the week in the w

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Speaker 1: NBA right where you had one girl's wig was ripped off, right,

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: The links now, I like, how again? And nobody wants

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Speaker 2: someone just like severely broke their leg and that you

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Speaker 7: There's a little bit of the duty in the pool

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Speaker 7: and Catshack feels.

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Speaker 1: It does its.

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Speaker 7: Running and then you're like, drain the pool, clean it

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Speaker 7: and then Bill Murray picks it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, anyway, a whole new world they're living in.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: the weekend, and we'll start with a resident hater, Jason Steward, Jay.

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Speaker 6: Su I hate being over fifty, and I hate suffering

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Speaker 6: soft tissue injuries. It has been quite some time since

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Speaker 6: I did that, but I tweaked my quad muscle this

436
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Speaker 6: past weekend and I was shelved for all day Sunday.

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Speaker 6: Probably not going to be able to make my Wednesday

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Speaker 6: softball game this weekend. And I have a vacation coming

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Speaker 6: up where my super hot girlfriend promised me we're going

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Speaker 6: to be doing a lot of walking, so I might

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Speaker 6: have my vacation compromise my midweek softball game compromise all

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Speaker 6: because I'm fifty two years old and suffered a soft

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Speaker 6: tissue injury.

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Speaker 2: I hate that. Screw you soft tissue injury.

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Speaker 5: Oh my nut, my nut, my neck in my that

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Speaker 5: was it?

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Speaker 1: Rundom first Pace that what happened?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was jogging out a ball at a first

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Speaker 6: base Yep, I saw you hit a dinger.

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Speaker 7: Though Rich Davis reposted you hitting a dinger, A real dinger.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, I despise adult softball. I just do.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not because I had. I mean, look, you

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Speaker 1: get flashbacks of the little league when you're playing and

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Speaker 1: you're like fielding, like that's fun. But one there's so

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Speaker 1: much standing around that that's like it to happen. I'm

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Speaker 1: a competitive person, I also, but I don't care that much, right,

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Speaker 1: and then you'll get you'll get a try hard that

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Speaker 1: really cares. Then you other guys are just hammered. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's that anytime I played, I used to play with

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Speaker 1: ESPN Radio. We used to have a softball team, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It was during the day, so it

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Speaker 1: was like sober softball and you just had guys that

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Speaker 1: were former baseball players so into it, you know. And

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Speaker 1: so I want to be competitive, but I'm no, I'm

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Speaker 1: not good. On the other hand, I really don't want

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Speaker 1: to get yelled at by somebody who I don't think

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Speaker 1: is yeah. I think like sorry, dude, like this is

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Speaker 1: not my world series. I don't know, just not a

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Speaker 1: big adult softball league guy. And the fact that you

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Speaker 1: hold your hamm he's a perfect example of why not.

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Speaker 1: Like what is the what's the best thing that could happen?

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Speaker 1: I can have? I can hit a home run and

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Speaker 1: we can win that. I don't care about. Worst thing

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Speaker 1: I am is I get hurt. And that's what happened

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Speaker 1: just two Dan Barrow Jake from the Weekend.

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Speaker 2: Doug gentlemen by the name of Thomas Bailey is getting

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Speaker 2: the raw end of the deal. And I'm sure that

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Speaker 2: there's arguments saying that he is in. But Bailey is

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Speaker 2: eighty eight years old. And thanks to the Knoxville News

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Speaker 2: for giving me a heads up on this one. Bailey

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Speaker 2: is a lifelong Tennessee basketball fan and he is now

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Speaker 2: being priced out of his seats where the Valls play

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Speaker 2: Thompson Bowling Arena because of an increase in ticket prices.

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Speaker 2: He's been a season ticket older since nineteen sixty seven.

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Speaker 2: In fairness to Tennessee, they have allowed him to have

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Speaker 2: a discount on his seats over a decent amount of

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Speaker 2: time because of his because of his age, and also

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Speaker 2: because of his loyalty to the program. But now there

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Speaker 2: are going to be new courtside club seats and his

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Speaker 2: ticket price went up three thousand dollars from what he

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Speaker 2: would previously have paid. They allowed him, they said, you

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Speaker 2: can have a seat for that price in the upper deck,

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Speaker 2: but he is now being moved because of this high

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Speaker 2: end club that they are trying to build to help

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Speaker 2: to help the finances of the new world of college basketball.

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Speaker 2: This isn't the only one. Arkansas fans, I know, we're

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Speaker 2: really mad at the end of last season that they

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Speaker 2: were heading into this season that they were getting displaced

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Speaker 2: because of ticket deals. I think we're hearing more and

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Speaker 2: more of this, which is too bad, because I think

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Speaker 2: college basketball fans are truly some of the best that

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Speaker 2: there are in the game.

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Speaker 1: And I hated that the Astros have short memories, right,

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Speaker 1: didn't the Astros stop the game because they thought the

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Speaker 1: Red Sox were stealing signs? That did happen, yes, pot

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Speaker 1: colin the kettle. And the fact that everybody didn't just

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Speaker 1: stop collectctively and laugh and point the finger at them.

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Speaker 1: I hated that. I hate that. I liked it some

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Speaker 1: of us remembered. I didn't like the fact that that

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Speaker 1: game should have been stopped and everybody should just laugh

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Speaker 1: to the Astros and say, hey, listen, I get it,

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Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, Coorro's over there, sure got it.

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Speaker 1: You guys can't do it. Sorry, no trash cans here.

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Speaker 1: And that is love and hate.

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Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: and the new author of a book, and of course

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Speaker 1: he's written other books, but it's called Football Done Right.

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Speaker 1: It's Michael Lombardi. He joins us on the Doug Gottlieb

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Speaker 1: Show on Fox Sports Radio. And you've basically done everything

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Speaker 1: at the professional level of football, right from being a

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Speaker 1: general manager to being kind of the consingly area you

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Speaker 1: name it, and then of course covering the game periodically

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Speaker 1: throughout the last fifteen or so years, as well as

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Speaker 1: getting back into business now moving to the college side.

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Speaker 1: But it's kind of the professionalization of the college side.

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Speaker 1: What's it like for you.

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Speaker 5: It's been fun, Doug, It's been great. I think you

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Speaker 5: nailed it. It is a professional sport. I mean, look

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Speaker 5: what players are getting paid, which they deserve to get

533
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Speaker 5: paid because of the revenue that they've generated for the

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Speaker 5: universities across the board, and now that help other sports,

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Speaker 5: help and help other sports and also help the institution.

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Speaker 5: But it's been fun. I mean other than attending an

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Speaker 5: academic meeting. My job is pretty much the same as

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Speaker 5: it was working at all the NFL teams. It's salary

539
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Speaker 5: cap it's team building, it's understanding how to utilize your

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Speaker 5: money that you have available to you and in the

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Speaker 5: best way possible.

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Speaker 1: I think. So what's interesting is obviously your level, you

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Speaker 1: guys are able to break it apart where Coach Belichick

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Speaker 1: does football and you do You're the GM, right, there's

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Speaker 1: there's a separate, a little a slight separation of church

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Speaker 1: and state. My level, I kind of do everything. We

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Speaker 1: hired a hire, We have a GM who's the former

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Speaker 1: player who's going to help us. But it's not to

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Speaker 1: the level that that you're doing. So I guess here's

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Speaker 1: the first question that all guys ask them, we all

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Speaker 1: ask each other, is are you are you tearing it

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Speaker 1: or are you going after certain guys and being like,

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Speaker 1: what is your what's the general plan for how you

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Speaker 1: guys do what you do within the ciscope of your

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Speaker 1: salary structure?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean everything about the job that I have

557
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Speaker 5: is the same as the job in professional football. You

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Speaker 5: have to grade the players accurately to then determine how

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Speaker 5: much you tell them, you know, the NFL draft is

560
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Speaker 5: all about how much money. It's all money the NFL draft.

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Speaker 5: If you get picked the first pick in the second round,

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Speaker 5: you make X. If you get picked the last pick

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Speaker 5: in the seventh round, you make why. And that why

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Speaker 5: in that X has to be equated to a description.

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Speaker 5: This player will come in and start immediately. He'll make

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Speaker 5: a huge impact on the team, and he'll be all

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Speaker 5: conference or whatever. Whatever the description is that translates into

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Speaker 5: how much you should pay the player. Where you get

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Speaker 5: in trouble is when you have a guy you grade

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Speaker 5: as a backup player and you pay him like a starter.

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Speaker 5: That's when you get in trouble. So the first thing

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Speaker 5: you have to do is put together a grading system

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Speaker 5: that allows you to accurately grade the players.

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Speaker 1: Do you use analytic companies or do you use your

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Speaker 1: own grading system and your own film breakdown?

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Speaker 5: No, we use our own system. I mean, football is

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Speaker 5: different than baseball. We're not as analytical as we have

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Speaker 5: some elements of analytics. But I mean, look, you know,

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Speaker 5: if analytics breaks down a game, do they tell you

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Speaker 5: who's on the field? Right? I mean it's easy to say,

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Speaker 5: you know, get into eleven personnel and throw the ball.

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Speaker 5: It's the best. But if Reggie White's the right end

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Speaker 5: and the left end and you're the right tackle, can't

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Speaker 5: bock anybody. Do you really want to throw the ball?

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's fundamental question, right, It's all about how

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Speaker 5: the players intertwine with the plays do. I think it's

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Speaker 5: important to have some form of analytics, of course, but

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Speaker 5: to sit there and think that you can carry the

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Speaker 5: load with analytics, it's a little bit naive in the

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Speaker 5: sense that you just you have to know who's on

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Speaker 5: the field. You have to judge the players right to

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Speaker 5: you want to go after Ron Woodson, who I wrote

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Speaker 5: about football done Right? Good? Go after them? Everybody did?

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Speaker 5: They double moved them early in the game because after

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Speaker 5: that you weren't going to get another play on them.

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Speaker 5: So it's about how to incorporate plays and players.

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Speaker 1: In the new book Football Done Right? Did you when

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Speaker 1: you started it? Because I mean, look, anybody's written a

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Speaker 1: book or I thought about writing a book, knows it

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Speaker 1: takes a while. When you started, though, your your job

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Speaker 1: and your job description was completely different, right. Was there

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Speaker 1: any thought of college football when you started putting pen

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Speaker 1: of paper?

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Speaker 5: Oh no, no, not at all, I didn't think I

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Speaker 5: would get back into the team side of it, you know,

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Speaker 5: having worked in the NFL and when you get older.

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Speaker 5: In the NFL, he required to make too much money

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Speaker 5: and nobody wants to pay. So, you know, I felt

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Speaker 5: like I had a good job working on the media

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Speaker 5: side and I was enjoying that. And I love writing books.

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Speaker 5: I mean, my first book, writ Oro Genus, has sold

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Speaker 5: really well. This book here gave me a lot of

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Speaker 5: pleasure to write. In fact, I felt really on this

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Speaker 5: past weekend. I felt vindicated because one of the major

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Speaker 5: themes of the book was why Sterling Sharp wasn't in

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Speaker 5: the NFL. It's the reason I really one of the

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Speaker 5: reasons why I started to write the book was the

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Speaker 5: injustice given a Sharp And look what happened. He got

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Speaker 5: in the NFL. Not because of my book, but people

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Speaker 5: became aware of the injustice. You know, he said he

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Speaker 5: didn't play long enough, well even to Terrell Davis, either

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Speaker 5: to Tony Basselli. But so one of the rules, you know,

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Speaker 5: what what is long enough? And I think that's why

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Speaker 5: I wrote it and I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: What about coach Belichick, you know, he again, at least

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Speaker 1: what we were told was man he really valued intelligence

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Speaker 1: right in the players that you guys drafted. You go

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Speaker 1: back to your days with the Patriots. How has he

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Speaker 1: adjusted to even smart college troball players hail in comparison

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Speaker 1: to the level of football intelligence he's used to dealing with.

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Speaker 1: What's this process been like in terms of trying to

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Speaker 1: evaluate and trying to coach players of different levels of

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Speaker 1: football intelligence.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, every football team, whether you're in high school,

635
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Speaker 5: whether you're in college or pro, you become who you

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Speaker 5: want to be. And everybody here knows we're looking for smart, tough,

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Speaker 5: and dependable players. And when you walk in the building,

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Speaker 5: that's the first thing everybody could hit with. We want smart,

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Speaker 5: tough and dependable, and if you're not smart, tough and dependable,

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Speaker 5: you won't be on our team. So that's what he wants,

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Speaker 5: and that's the kind of player that we're trying to

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Speaker 5: build within the framework of the team. You know, football

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Speaker 5: teams become who they want to be. If you want

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Speaker 5: a fat team, you'll sign fat players. If you want

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Speaker 5: a skinny you'll sign skinny players. Right. Well, we want smart,

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Speaker 5: tough and dependable, which if we if they're smart, tough

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Speaker 5: and dependent, and they're self aware. We'll make them better players,

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Speaker 5: will allow them to grow and develop.

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Speaker 1: In football. Done right. You talked about Sterling Sharp, who

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Speaker 1: got in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: does that does Terrell Davis, Sterling Sharp, Tony BISSELLI does

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Speaker 1: that open the door for even a priest? Holmes right,

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Speaker 1: very short career, but very dominant in that short period time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think he deserves I think part

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Speaker 5: of what I wanted to do and why. If you

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Speaker 5: go to the back of the book, you know I

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Speaker 5: wrote I wrote why. I wrote the book. And you know,

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Speaker 5: if you ever watched Larry David Curb your Enthusiasm, he

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Speaker 5: had an episode called the Middler where whoever sits at

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Speaker 5: the middle of a table at a dinner party is

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Speaker 5: responsible to stir up conversation. I think that's a really

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Speaker 5: good conversation to have. You know, what is the criteria?

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Speaker 5: I think every position should have a criteria. I put

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Speaker 5: a criteria in there for coaches so we could stop

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Speaker 5: to debate is this guy a good player? It's no

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Speaker 5: different than a grading system in football. If you don't

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Speaker 5: have a system, everybody just argues back and forth whether

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Speaker 5: the guy's good enough. When you have a system that

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Speaker 5: describes what the player with the qualifications that must be

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Speaker 5: meant to get into the club, there's no more debate.

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Speaker 5: For example, Marty Schottenheimer has won two hundred games in

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Speaker 5: his NFL coaching career. Two hundred. There's only nine people

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Speaker 5: that have coached out of the five hundred plus people

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Speaker 5: that have called themselves head coach that have achieved that

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Speaker 5: level of success, one out of five hundred and nine

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Speaker 5: out of five hundred and seventy five. And he's not

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Speaker 5: in the Hall of Fame. If you're in that exclusive club,

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Speaker 5: don't you think you belong in the Hall of Fame. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: there shouldn't be a debate. It should be automatically just admitted.

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Speaker 5: It shouldn't come to a vote. But well, he has

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Speaker 5: not won a Super Bowl. Okay, Marv Lee didn't win

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Speaker 5: a Super Bowl. Well he didn't get to a Super Bowl. Well,

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Speaker 5: George Allen went to one Super Bowl. You know, the

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Speaker 5: only coach ten years he had a seventy percent winning percentage.

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Speaker 5: He lost at fourteen to seven to the Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 5: in the undefeated season. But he's in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: I mean, so, like, what is if there's no criteria,

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Speaker 5: all that happens is it becomes an argument.

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Speaker 1: Yep, pretty much right. It's it's like the Constitution. We

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Speaker 1: picked the ones that we picked, the things we like,

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Speaker 1: don't we try to diminish the things we don't. We

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Speaker 1: do the same with the Bible, and we do the

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Speaker 1: same thing with with arbitrary sports arguments, where we'll leave

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Speaker 1: things out because it doesn't support argument.

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Speaker 5: Right. And if somebody as well is one favor with

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Speaker 5: the media and they the media like them, they'll push

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Speaker 5: the player to get into the Hall of Fame. You know,

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Speaker 5: they'll want the guy. I mean, that was the point.

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Speaker 5: You know, certain guys got pushed and did they deserve

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Speaker 5: to go in the Hall of Fame. Maybe they did,

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Speaker 5: maybe they didn't, But there should be an order, you know,

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Speaker 5: Mike Honggren's want you know, he belowns Mike Shanahan. We

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Speaker 5: would have what would have the zone outside of run

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Speaker 5: play on one of the major and just this is

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Speaker 5: Clark Shaughnessy. We wouldn't have a forward pass if it

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Speaker 5: wasn't for Clark Shaughnessy. But yet we can't Clark Shaughnessy's

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Speaker 5: not in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: How does Aaron Rodgers do in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know enough about about how he looks,

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Speaker 5: and I haven't paid any attention to the NFL to

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Speaker 5: really say, but I think Arthur Smiths are a really

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Speaker 5: good coach. I think Mike Tomlin's a really good coach.

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Speaker 5: And I think if he follows the program, you know,

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Speaker 5: the program, one player is not going to win for you.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be the program. I mean, I think

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Speaker 5: if he follows the program, that will really help.

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Speaker 1: Last thing I know you got to in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I've been told the hit rate for free and C

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Speaker 1: is like thirty three percent. Right, what do you think

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Speaker 1: a reasonable hit rate in year one for you would

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Speaker 1: be at North Carolina? I mean for recruiting, Yeah, in

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Speaker 1: terms of devaluate guys achieving what you thought they would

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Speaker 1: achieve when.

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Speaker 5: Your well, I mean, we have seventy new players on

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Speaker 5: the team, so it's hard. It's a completely new team.

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Speaker 5: I think to me, it's about one day at a time.

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Speaker 5: We've got to build it. We're building a culture. I mean,

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Speaker 5: that's the most important thing. When you walk into this building,

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Speaker 5: you'll feel a culture, you know, and that's what more

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Speaker 5: is the most important element of what we're doing. Once

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Speaker 5: you build a culture, then all of a sudden you've

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Speaker 5: developed multipliers. You know, multiple you know what multipliers are? Players? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: of course, multiplayers, and so that's that's what we're doing.

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Speaker 5: And so that takes time, but it's also worthwhile.

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Speaker 1: It is worthwhile. So as picking up this book, it's

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Speaker 1: called Football Done Right, you can pick up his other

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Speaker 1: book as well. It's either by Michael Lombardi course works

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Speaker 1: for North Carolina football. He's kind of to spend some

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Speaker 1: time with this. Picked up Football Done Right. Mike, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us. I know you're busy. Really

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Speaker 1: appreciate you time.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you. By bye,