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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Let's bring in Adam Leftco. He covers the

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Speaker 1: NBA TNT Inside the NBA guest host also covering the

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Speaker 1: draft as well for Bleacher Report. Left go, let me

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Speaker 1: start with that. Let me start with the season long

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Speaker 1: Dunk of the Year award, and then I don't like it?

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk to you later. Thanks for joining. Wait,

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Speaker 1: why don't you like the dunk contest is actually a

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Speaker 1: dunk in a contest called a game, because why are

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Speaker 1: we trying to kill this thing so fast? Like we

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Speaker 1: had one bad year where Cole Anthony took like twenty

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Speaker 1: minutes to tie his shoes and suddenly it needs to

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Speaker 1: be completely imploded and fixed. Yes, I will say. I

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Speaker 1: asked the commissioner, why don't we just give them like

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Speaker 1: a million dollars and he was like, that's not going

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Speaker 1: to get it done. And I was like, he's like,

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Speaker 1: people are worried now about embarrassment, and it does stink

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Speaker 1: that we got guys like Anthony Edwards that are like,

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Speaker 1: I'm never going to do the dunk contest. But there

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Speaker 1: has to be a way to incentivize, either through fear

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Speaker 1: or intimidation. Yeah, but John Ran, it's not going to

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Speaker 1: do this. Left go. Now, I get John or Ran

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Speaker 1: in the dunk contest. Even though he's not going to

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Speaker 1: be in a contest. He just dunked in the game. Man,

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Speaker 1: this is an entire year. Oh my god, did you

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Speaker 1: see that? It's that the dunk of the year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we still we already asked that question. Damn, Like

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Speaker 1: that happened last night. They were like, dunk of the year,

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Speaker 1: like PAULI said that, and I started thinking about Anthony

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Speaker 1: Edwards dunk over that dude on the Raptors, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's pretty competitive. House of Highlights, does

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Speaker 1: this It's the moment of the year, dunk of the year,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. I'm sorry that I came in rating

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Speaker 1: on your parade. I bet you guys were having a

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Speaker 1: great morning. We were. Yeah, I kind of messed out

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Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, but I still don't like the idea. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I love the idea. I do you like bad ideas.

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Speaker 1: That's why you're gonna have me as a guest. Then

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Speaker 1: it's true. Chris Middleton not playing some big deal. Left go.

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Speaker 1: I think the Celtics are going to to the finals.

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Speaker 1: I got to sit right behind where the media sits

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Speaker 1: for Game four, and I'm watching Celtics nets, and I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at the size of the Celtics and I'm watching

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Speaker 1: ema Udoka and I'm watching this dude have non verbal

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Speaker 1: communication with Marcus Smart from across the court. They're doing

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Speaker 1: this and Smart's like, oh yeah. And then I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at Steve Nash and he's looking at his assistance and

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Speaker 1: it was a complete divide. So he's doing hand signals

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Speaker 1: to Mark is Smart, where Steve Nash was not really

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Speaker 1: communicating Dan. There was one part in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: where Goran Dragis looked back at the bench and yelled

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Speaker 1: something at Steve like I need to know what we're

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Speaker 1: doing here, and Steve Nash looked at him blankly, and

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Speaker 1: I love stevensch and then looked at his assistance and

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Speaker 1: then turned around and kind of put his hands up

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Speaker 1: and Gore and drags kind of threw his hands like

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Speaker 1: I'll figure out myself. And then I'm watching the Celtics bench.

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Speaker 1: Dan every free throw, emy Yudoka has Derek White, Marcus Smarty.

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Speaker 1: He it looked like he had the chess move for

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Speaker 1: every single play. But I'm looking at the Bucks team

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Speaker 1: and I'm going, so, you don't have Chris Middleton, and

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Speaker 1: you don't have PJ. Tucker like you did last year.

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Speaker 1: Who's guarding Tatum? Like, yeah, Drew Holliday. Okay, then who's

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Speaker 1: guarding Smart? They're missing two of those huge middle pieces.

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Speaker 1: Now that that's all the Celtics are are six seven

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Speaker 1: versatile guys, and the Bucks now don't have enough of them.

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Speaker 1: But I thought Kyrie and Katie are the coaches, So

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Speaker 1: why wasn't Gorn Droggage looking to Kyrie and saying, Kay,

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Speaker 1: this out on our own. That's why it was so

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Speaker 1: impressive to watch Katie in person on Monday night, because

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Speaker 1: it was just him going, I'm going to find a

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Speaker 1: way to get to the basket. But yeah, no, it

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Speaker 1: look Ema Judoka was the leadest for the Nets last year.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he knew all the things that they were planning

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Speaker 1: email Judoka, I really think Dan is going to be

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Speaker 1: up for Coach of the year for the next decade.

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Speaker 1: And it's a few reasons. One the way that I

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Speaker 1: see him patrol the sideline. Two, his connection with players

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Speaker 1: is unlike any coach that I've seen. And three he's

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Speaker 1: from the state of a Quabum in Nigeria, which is

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Speaker 1: where my wife is from. And they don't lose. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Both big winners. You feel like a play in game

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Speaker 1: over and I go, I am the Charlotte Hornets and

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Speaker 1: this is going to end. Yeah, early exit, But boy

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Speaker 1: are they exciting potential. You got a lot of potential

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Speaker 1: y Yeah, yeah, I just I just need to act

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Speaker 1: on it. We'll be fine. Help me understand what Doc

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Speaker 1: Rivers said yesterday. I mean, I'm gonna play a portion

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Speaker 1: of this, but he's defending his past playoff exits. Here's

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Speaker 1: Doc Rivers Rose. He's gonna use me as an example.

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Speaker 1: But I wish I would tell the whole story with me.

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Speaker 1: All Right, My Orlando team is the eighth seed. No

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Speaker 1: one gives me credit for getting up against the Pistons

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Speaker 1: who won the title. That was in the APHC go

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Speaker 1: look at that. I want you to go back and

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Speaker 1: look at that roster. I dare you go back and

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Speaker 1: look at that roster and you would say, let a

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Speaker 1: hell of a coaching does really I mean the Clipper

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Speaker 1: team that we lost three one Chris Paul didn't play

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Speaker 1: in the first two games. It was playing on one leg,

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Speaker 1: and we didn't have home court. And then the last

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Speaker 1: one to me is the one we blew. That's the

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Speaker 1: one I said, we blew that, and that was in

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Speaker 1: there's no home court. Game seven would have been in La,

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Speaker 1: you know, but it just happened. So I would say

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Speaker 1: do better, always always take my own responsibility. And then

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Speaker 1: some of it is circumstances happened. This sounds like an

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Speaker 1: exit interview. They sounds like to me, Dan Meme fatigue.

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Speaker 1: This is a man who has seen the memes. Oh,

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Speaker 1: this is what Doc Rivers does. He loses three one,

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Speaker 1: he loses three zero. This is again the same time

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Speaker 1: of the year where all year last year he was

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Speaker 1: defending Ben Simmons and he was saying he's fine he's

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Speaker 1: It's something about this time of the year where Doc

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Speaker 1: just kind of lets it go. But it sounded like

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Speaker 1: he had had enough. I am a top fifteen coach

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Speaker 1: Look at my resume. I'm tired of the memes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but Doc is be loved by the media, is he

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Speaker 1: He got Coach of the Year for an Orlando team

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Speaker 1: that went forty one and forty one. They didn't even

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. I think he should be criticized even

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Speaker 1: more than he's been criticized. Nobody has lost more three

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Speaker 1: there's there's a common denominator with all of this. We

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Speaker 1: love Doc, but the results don't back up him. If

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Speaker 1: he loses in this round. Are the Lakers on the

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Speaker 1: Lakers right, what you just did, right, there was a

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Speaker 1: master class of radio hosting that you took one story

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Speaker 1: and then you put the Lakers on it. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: put the Cowboys in there too somehow, you know. And

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Speaker 1: if they could use some Yankees, yeah, that would be awesome.

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Speaker 1: And Tom Brady, what's Tom Brady think of Doc Rivers

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Speaker 1: blowing three one lead? I don't. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: like how beloved Doc is. I also thought it was

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Speaker 1: pretty disrespectful to heydu Turcolu, Rochard Lewis and Dwight Howard

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Speaker 1: But also like the coach of the year, like you

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Speaker 1: to John Morant Like that made no sense to me

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Speaker 1: at all. No offense, job, you're a great, great dunk

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Speaker 1: Dunk of the Year, you should win a million dollars,

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Speaker 1: according to Paul. But I with Doc. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Doc gets any credit for the Celtics championship. Really like

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's, oh, that was a big three.

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Speaker 1: I also want to say, I mean, Joel Embid did

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Speaker 1: out there playing with one hand. Yeah, I know, but

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Speaker 1: you said Chris Paul was on one leg. Chris Paul

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Speaker 1: so he still played. Well, hey we lost in the bubble,

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Speaker 1: but hey in the bubble. Okay, everybody was in the bubble. See.

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Speaker 1: Doc's not a clutch client. And that's why I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: Mark Jackson could be the coach of the Lakers, because

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Speaker 1: he's a clutch client. We're talking to Adam left go

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Speaker 1: by the way, don't be bitter, be better? All right,

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Speaker 1: all right, it's nice. Yeah I just made that up.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like that's a T shirt. Yeah, don't be bitter,

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Speaker 1: be better, Adam Left. That's like Shack said to be

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Speaker 1: one time. I was like, Shack, you know you're a

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Speaker 1: and he goes, I'm too great to hate and I

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Speaker 1: I'm just great? So what I say? And I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: Adam Left Coo TNT inside the NBA guest host and

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Speaker 1: also covering the draft for Bleacher Report. Give me the

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Speaker 1: draft prospect not being mentioned as a top ten pick

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Speaker 1: that will haunt GMS for years to come. Okay, Dan,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. These last few drafts,

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Speaker 1: all I ever hear about is position importance. Gotta get

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Speaker 1: your quarterbacks, gotta get your tackles. But there's always a

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Speaker 1: guy taken in the teens that when we do a redraft,

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Speaker 1: we go how did this guy fall? And it's always

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Speaker 1: the same position. Oh, Aaron Donald goes eleven, Fletcher Cox

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Speaker 1: always the defensive tackle that nobody cares about, and then

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Speaker 1: we look by years and they're dominating the league. How

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Speaker 1: is Jordan Davis not being talked about more? How do

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Speaker 1: we talk about a guy all year and say he

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Speaker 1: is the biggest dude we've ever seen. He's got the

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Speaker 1: fastest forty, he jumps the furthest He's on the national championship.

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Speaker 1: He's dominating offensive lines, but he can only play two downs.

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Speaker 1: First of all, how many downs are there? There's three, right,

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Speaker 1: So he's playing sixty six percent of downs, which sounds

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Speaker 1: pretty good to me. But two, you're telling me I

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Speaker 1: Radio and the iHeart Radio WAP. Daniel Jeremiah has got

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Speaker 1: of the more odd trades that you're ever going to see.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I did my mock draft last night

423
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Speaker 1: and I had them taking I think I had them

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Speaker 1: taking a receiver and a tackle. And this GM said,

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Speaker 1: how does it make sense that you part with a

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Speaker 1: future one and a future two so that you can

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Speaker 1: come away with the receiver and a tackle. That It

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Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever. So that's kind

429
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Speaker 1: of one of the intriguing teams to follow tonight. Maybe

430
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Speaker 1: they've been sandbag and us. Maybe they are going to

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Speaker 1: take a quarterback. Yeah. I tell people all the time.

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Speaker 1: If I was in a position of being a GM

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Speaker 1: or an owner, I'm not going to tell anybody anything.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be truthful to the media. Now,

435
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Speaker 1: somebody in a house may leak some information, but I

436
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Speaker 1: would never tell the media like Carolina, Hey, you know,

437
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Speaker 1: we told Sam Darnold we may take a quarterback. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't tell Like, what's the benefit of saying that

439
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Speaker 1: unless you think somebody's going to go, oh, if we

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Speaker 1: want a quarterback, we better go and jump in front

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Speaker 1: of Caroline. So true story. I was talking to some

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Speaker 1: teams picking in the top to ten, and literally within

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Speaker 1: one hour they told me, you know, I think the

444
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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers would like to move up ahead of the

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Speaker 1: Giants to guarantee they get the first tackle. And then

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Speaker 1: within an hour report came out that they have let

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald know that they might take a quarterback. In

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Speaker 1: other words, like, hey, just no, we might take a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We might really do it. And then maybe somebody jumps

450
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Speaker 1: in front of you. Then guess who would fall to

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Speaker 1: them if somebody took a quarterback right in front of

452
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Speaker 1: them the tackle? Yeah, I don't. I don't believe anything.

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Speaker 1: There's a quarterback bet we have in house here, and Paully,

454
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Speaker 1: my producer, says that there will be at least one

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Speaker 1: quarterback taken in the first thirteen picks. I'm gonna say no,

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Speaker 1: But in a year where we don't know anything, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say. My confidence level is high. I think there's

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Speaker 1: a you know, I wouldn't sleep on the Saints potentially

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Speaker 1: where they are with those two picks. And the teams.

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Speaker 1: I think the Pittsburgh Steelers, you know, I think there's

461
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Speaker 1: a high probability that they take one. But you know, six, eight,

462
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Speaker 1: nine Panthers, Falcons, Seahawks. I just I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: going to do it. Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network analyst. NFL

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Speaker 1: Networks coverage starts to night at eight Eastern first round.

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Speaker 1: If Jordan Love was in this draft, where would he rank?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, damn, we're going on the way back

467
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Speaker 1: machine here. Uh, you know, just talent tools wise, I

468
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Speaker 1: think he'd probably be. You know, I think he would be.

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Speaker 1: It would be a fun discussion with him and Malik

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Speaker 1: Willis just in terms of guys with you know, kind

471
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Speaker 1: of some impressive raw tools, and Malik Wills could be

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Speaker 1: the first quarterback taken. So he'd have been right there

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Speaker 1: in the mix. Now, it's been a long time since

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Speaker 1: he was coming out, and I don't think his value's

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Speaker 1: gone up at all. With a little bit that we've

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Speaker 1: seen in play. It's gone down more than anything else.

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Speaker 1: So you know, this, this Jordan Love version now would

478
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Speaker 1: probably be in the you know, the three or the

479
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Speaker 1: fourth hole. Okay, But I was wondering about this, and

480
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Speaker 1: we were discussing this as a group prior to the show.

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Speaker 1: If you're a team that you know has a third

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Speaker 1: fourth round pick and you didn't get the quarterback you

483
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Speaker 1: wanted in the first or second round, and you just

484
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Speaker 1: called up the packers and said, hey, we'll take Jordan

485
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Speaker 1: Love off your hands. Yeah, but you know it's worth

486
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Speaker 1: a flyer, It's worth a flyer. But man, I would

487
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Speaker 1: have liked to have done that a little earlier, just

488
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Speaker 1: because you're all the benefits of the rookie contractor you're

489
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Speaker 1: getting ready to expire before too long on Jordan's Love

490
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Speaker 1: as you get further down the road. But he's not

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Speaker 1: even twenty four you Daniel, No, No, you've got you've

492
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Speaker 1: got to You've got some raw tools to uh to

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Speaker 1: work with and develop. So you've got an opportunity there.

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Speaker 1: I love it. While you're while we're talking in the agent,

495
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Speaker 1: where does my guy go? I don't know, I don't

496
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Speaker 1: know where he goes? That those are the text messages

497
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Speaker 1: that come in on the morning. Then, But uh no,

498
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Speaker 1: I think that's I think it's a legit. That's it's

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Speaker 1: a legit point. You know, if you can part with

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Speaker 1: a fourth round pick and take a flyer on a

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Speaker 1: quarterback if you don't have one, why not? And then

502
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Speaker 1: you got Deebo, Samuel, you've got Baker Mayfield. Um, who's

503
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Speaker 1: more likely to be traded this weekend? Deebo or Baker?

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Speaker 1: The d both things and a roller coaster. I mean

505
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Speaker 1: from being told there's no chance that that happens too.

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Speaker 1: You know, they would do it, um if it was

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Speaker 1: the right price. And then then you hear, oh my gosh,

508
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Speaker 1: the prices are asking for it's ridiculous, and they want

509
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Speaker 1: two ones. There's no way they're getting two ones. And

510
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Speaker 1: then and then it was you know, it doesn't look

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Speaker 1: likely as as where we are right now, that that's

512
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Speaker 1: going to happen. And then the Baker thing. I think

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Speaker 1: that's going to probably determine on what, you know, what

514
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Speaker 1: happens in the first round. If these teams all pass um,

515
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Speaker 1: then I think there's more of a likelihood that's something

516
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Speaker 1: with Baker gets done by the end of the draft.

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Speaker 1: But they're gonna have to eat a lot of money, Dan,

518
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Speaker 1: They're gonna have to beat a big chunk of that thing. Yeah,

519
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Speaker 1: but they got to move on because they can't help.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're you're bringing into seaan Watson who's already polarizing,

521
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Speaker 1: and you can't help Baker in camp. You just know,

522
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way that he is there

523
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Speaker 1: in camp. But just no matter whether it actually happens

524
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Speaker 1: during the draft or whether it's a little bit after that,

525
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Speaker 1: great to talk to you, have fun tonight. I'll try

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Speaker 1: not to text you, Oh Dan, I love the text man,

527
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: you can, I know, but I try to be professional

528
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: because when I told people that I text you when

529
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: you were on last time, and then they're like, is

530
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: that being professional? And I thought, you know, maybe it's

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Speaker 1: not so No. I mean I've got I've got literally

532
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: the best life coach in media, So I mean, why

533
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Speaker 1: wouldn't not a tap into that resource. You know what

534
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: I'll do, I'll text you during the commercial breaks. Okay, Okay,

535
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Speaker 1: that's great. And by the way, for Fritzie, you know,

536
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: there's there's some defensive ends in this draft where we say,

537
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, they've asked them to read, they've asked him

538
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: to think they're better off. We just cut them loose

539
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Speaker 1: and put them on the edge. No responsibilities, just go

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's Fritzie's role on the show. Wow, So

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Speaker 1: in edge is he my my Cavon Thibadeau. No, I

542
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: was gonna say, more like a guy like Boye Mafe

543
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Speaker 1: you know who you know. At Minnesota they asked him

544
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Speaker 1: to do a lot of things. He goes to the

545
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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. They just wide them out and tell him

546
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Speaker 1: to get up the field and you wreck shop at

547
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Speaker 1: its best read is a four letter word for Fritzie. Okay, gotcha? Okay,

548
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: that's helpful advice? Did he call me? Why do this?

549
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: Just the wh he took a little shot there I

550
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Speaker 1: need to lose about twenty twenty five come on this

551
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Speaker 1: draft day. I'd like to do with that. And Daniel

552
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: can can we have body good player? Could we have

553
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: a high motor attached to a black player tonight instead

554
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: of just Aiden Hutchinson? Can we do that? Because I

555
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: think Thibadeau has a high motor just you know, Okay? Yeah,

556
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Speaker 1: so I would say, I would say Treyvon Walker has

557
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Speaker 1: as a higher body. So I might go that first

558
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Speaker 1: pick right off the gate. I like that. If you say,

559
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Speaker 1: you know, I love about him? You got a high motor,

560
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Speaker 1: that's all. I love it? Yeah, I love it, I

561
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Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, Thank you say, and I'm gonna say

562
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Speaker 1: that Garrett Wilson's just gritty and an overachiever. Well, I

563
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Speaker 1: us AI. It's been a while. What do you miss most?

582
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: Football or basketball? Oh? Man, it's been on our guy

583
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: a chance that you know really played basketball the way

584
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Speaker 1: I wanted to So, UM, I would say football definitely,

585
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Speaker 1: But what do you miss? Like I think you said

586
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Speaker 1: you would have been a better football player than basketball player.

587
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Speaker 1: Why do you feel that way? First of all, it

588
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: was just my first love. UM is the first game

589
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: that I fell in love with UM, and I just

590
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: feel like UM my versatility, you know what I mean,

591
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Speaker 1: being played so many different positions and having you know,

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Speaker 1: I think more of an impact on the game because

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Speaker 1: I was able to play on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if you were born like fifteen years too soon,

595
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Speaker 1: like if you were if you were coming up now,

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Speaker 1: do you think he would stay with football or try

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Speaker 1: to do both? I would. I would have definitely tried

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Speaker 1: to do both um. You know, just you know, from

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Speaker 1: the love that I have for basketball and that I've

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Speaker 1: had a basketball since UM Michael Jordan gave me the vision. UM,

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Speaker 1: I definitely would have tried to play both. UM and

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Speaker 1: I you know, I really put it in that effort

603
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Speaker 1: because when I went to Georgetown. I asked, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: Coach Thompson, could I play UM football? Because you know,

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00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: we had to walk to the gym um every day

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Speaker 1: from class and I always had to pass the football

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Speaker 1: field and I remember going past the football field, I

608
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Speaker 1: used to always get emotional and tears will be, you know,

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Speaker 1: coming out of my eyes. And you know, because I

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Speaker 1: missed the game so much. And one day I just

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Speaker 1: build up enough courage to ask him could I play?

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Speaker 1: And I don't think I can um with the language.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I can say, but I never thought

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Speaker 1: about playing again. But but it made you that emotional. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean because I loved it so much. I mean

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Speaker 1: it was it was such a big part of my life. Um,

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Speaker 1: and UM, you know just that the fact of um,

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Speaker 1: how effective I was was at it, and I was

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Speaker 1: getting better and better at it. And then when the

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Speaker 1: situation happened, UM with the bowling alley, and you know

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Speaker 1: when I obviously I got in that trouble, and UM,

622
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Speaker 1: when I came home, you know, I was recruited by

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Speaker 1: everybody in the country, um, in both sports, and I

624
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Speaker 1: had no more offers at all. And my mom eventually

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Speaker 1: went up to Georgetollen bad my life, and coach gave

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Speaker 1: me a shot in the rest of history. If you

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Speaker 1: didn't get into trouble, where do you think you would

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Speaker 1: have gone? Instead of Georgetown? I thought about I really

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Speaker 1: wanted to go to Notre Dame. Um, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: go to Notre Dame. And then Joe Smith went to Maryland,

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Speaker 1: so I thought about Maryland to play with him. Um.

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00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: And then I went up to Duke on a not

633
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: really a visit, but I, you know, went up there

634
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: and and um, I got to meet Bobby Hurley. Bobby

635
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: Hurley was my favorite UM college basketball player really, you know, Yes,

636
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: So I really wanted to go there because I I

637
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: love Bobby Hurley so much. Wait were you rooting for

638
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: Duke against you and l V? I never know, No,

639
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: I I wasn't a Duke fan. I was What was

640
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: it about Hurley that you like? Just toughness? I just

641
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: love how tough he was, Um, the small statue. I

642
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: tell you something crazy, Dan, like when when I got

643
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: to the league, I played against him one time and

644
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: I remember his dad then on the sideline and once

645
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: again you know about his language, so you know, I

646
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: just remember him telling UM. You know telling Bobby to

647
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: bust my ass and uh and some more stuff that

648
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: went along with it. And I was like, day, like,

649
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: don't even know, you know how much I love Bobby Hurley,

650
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, but obviously didn't. But um, yeah, man,

651
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: I never was a um A Duke fan. I was

652
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: definitely a Bobby Hurley fan. Though. How did you react

653
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: or what did you think when Michael Jordan referred to

654
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: you as a little bit sure that the first time

655
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: he saw you. Didn't he use that expression? It was

656
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: I don't think that was the first time he saw me.

657
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: We was at the UM. We was at the UM

658
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: the All Star Game or the year that without that

659
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: had to be my rookie year. It was UM the

660
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: year that they gave out they was they did the

661
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: top fifty Yeah, um guys, yeah and um. And I

662
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: was I think I was coming off the court from

663
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: something and I saw him and they were getting ready

664
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: going because he had his jacket on, and he just

665
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: grabbed me as a as a photo out there with

666
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: him having me like in a head lot, and he

667
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: was just like, you know, what's up a little bit?

668
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: But no, it was no fact then it And then

669
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: I didn't take it that way anyway. I was just

670
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: happy for him just saying anything to me. But but

671
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: when you see yourself crossover Mike twice, like, it's pretty impressive,

672
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: Like what do you think I mean? It was it

673
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: was um, it was against you know, it was against

674
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: Black Jesus. And I always always told my friends growing up,

675
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: you know that, UM, if I ever got an opportunity

676
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: to try my move on the best that ever played

677
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: the game, that I would, And you know, it was

678
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: just a moment that just happened, and you know, I

679
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: backed him up and I did it, And I really

680
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 1: didn't noticed significance of it when it first happened, um,

681
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: because I was just into the game, just playing the game.

682
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: But then after the aftermath of everything, saying it all

683
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: on ESPN and you know, all on the news and

684
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: everybody talked about it, I was like, oh, yeah, you know,

685
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: I really, um, I really did something. But you know,

686
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: thinking back on it, um, I had got guys way

687
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: worse than that. But it was just the fact that

688
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: it was him, you know what I mean. And the

689
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: crazy part about it is he still almost blocked it.

690
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: I know. I know that's a bit of of of

691
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: how tough he was and how great he was. But

692
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: he didn't say anything after you did it. Nahum. He

693
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: didn't say nothing to me, um um until years later.

694
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: I went to because I live in Charlotte, so I

695
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: went to a Harness game and uh, you know, me

696
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: and him where I guess it was an area in

697
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: the back way, you know. He chilled at halftime and

698
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 1: he had me back then and we were just talking

699
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: and I just kept telling him how much I loved

700
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: him and how much he meant in my life and

701
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: my career, and you know, telling him I wouldn't have

702
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: had that vision of playing basketball if it wasn't for him.

703
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: And he was like, you don't love me that much.

704
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: You wouldn't across me like that. And we laughed about

705
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: We laughed about it. But what's crazy with him is

706
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: I get around him. I've been around him so many times,

707
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, since the first time I met him, and

708
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: I still get like nervous. I still, you know, just

709
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: just fidgeted around him all the time, you know, because

710
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: I love him so much. And you know he's still

711
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: like when I see him, you know, he don't look real.

712
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: He's like he got a some typeball glow. About him

713
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: or someone aura, you know what I mean, just don't

714
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: seem he was the only person in my life that

715
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: I've ever met and he don't look human in me.

716
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: But there has to be these younger players that look

717
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 1: up to you the way you looked up to Jordan.

718
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: That's one of the greatest feelings in the world, you know,

719
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: especially with me being here with my All American game,

720
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: you know, with my classic and you know, the way

721
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: they look at me, the way I have, the attention

722
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: when I'm talking, and it's just it kinds of it

723
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: makes me feel like, Okay, this is how you was.

724
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: You know, this is how you are with him, and

725
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: it's just a great feeling to see that. You know,

726
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: guys grew up off of me and you know love

727
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: me the way I the way I love him. You know,

728
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: it's a it's just a blessing. Alan, Can you hold on.

729
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: I got a few more questions I want to ask,

730
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,720
Speaker 1: including the famous press conference when you said we're talking

731
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: about practice. We're back with Allen Iverson here on the

732
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick's show right after this. Fox Sports Radio has

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00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: talked about it for I of things with Ellen Iverson

738
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,000
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739
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,239
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744
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:26,000
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745
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: to ask me to do? Definitely, you know what I mean.

746
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: We have a great relationships, been a couple of years

747
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: now and it's just a great partnership. Um. I don't

748
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: do a whole lot of betting on games my you know,

749
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 1: my friends do that. You know, they into it. They

750
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: do it, damn there every day, and I just do

751
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: they ask you for advice though, nah nah, they know

752
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: they did use me for who I am. They use

753
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: you for tickets and things like that. I mean, just

754
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: like everybody else do. I'm surprised that this many, this

755
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: many years later after plan that I'm still irrelevant and popular.

756
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: Well you were. I mustn't did something right. I mustn't

757
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: did something right out there. But but you know, you're

758
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: an iconic figure. It's almost like Randy Marsh in football,

759
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: like like you were ahead of your time. That's a

760
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: great that's a great compliment, by the way, Yeah, thank you.

761
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: But you you know, when you had the tattoos and

762
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: how people viewed you, and now everybody's got tattoos, right,

763
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: But at the time, did you feel like you were

764
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: kind of on an island that it was just yes, yes, yes,

765
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: that's a great question. And um, because I kind of

766
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of took the ass was

767
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: before Dan, you know what I mean. And it's it's

768
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: kind of been a sweet because back then I was

769
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: so young, twenty one years old, and I didn't understand.

770
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: I was basically just dressing like the guys from you know,

771
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: my neighborhood that I you know, grew up with, you know,

772
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: so it was natural to me. And then with the tattoos,

773
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: it was basically like, um, you know, I always wanted them,

774
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: but I just couldn't afford them. And then once I,

775
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: you know, could afford them, then that's why I just

776
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: went overboard with it, you know, because you know, every

777
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: all of my tattoos means something. And then with the hair,

778
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: like I was with going the road, and guys would

779
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: mess my hair when I go to the barber shop.

780
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: So I always I thought like, man, if I could

781
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: just get a corn road, then I don't have to

782
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: worry about you know, guys messing my hair up on

783
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: the road. So that's how that happened, you know what

784
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: I mean. So you know with the dress cold and

785
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: all that, you know, I was hurt by it. I

786
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: didn't understand it or whatever. And you know, now you

787
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: see guys wearing whatever they want and and and you know,

788
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: looking the way they want. And you know, I know

789
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: it's had a lot to do with me, you know,

790
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: getting the dress code change. But you know it's a

791
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: good feeling now to see guys express themselves the way

792
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: they you know want you Because when you look at

793
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: the game, everybody don't play the same. So why would everybody,

794
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, look this, why would everybody dress the same?

795
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: You got all these guys in suits. When I grew up,

796
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: I never went to the park with a suit on

797
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: the play basketball. So you know, the only time that

798
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: I wore suits was to the church into to a funeral. So,

799
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, David Stern said, everybody thinks this is the

800
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: Allen Iverson rule. He said, it's really Steve Nash that

801
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: he had a problem with how Steve Nash dressed when

802
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: he went to the press conference as well. So just

803
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: to let you know, that's that's the commissioner telling me

804
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: because I I referenced the Allen Iverson dress code, he goes,

805
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: h Steve Nash, I had a problem with how Steve

806
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: Nash dressed at press conferences. Learned something new every day.

807
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: I did not know that. Yeah, you know, I mean,

808
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: and God bless him. I mean, me and him became

809
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: so close, you know what I mean, especially after my

810
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: career was over, you know what I mean, the latter

811
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: part of my career and towards the end, you know

812
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. I got a you know, great relationship

813
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: with him, and I'm glad you know that it ended

814
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: up being that way before he passed. May rest in peace.

815
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: What's your best turn? Two? Uh? My kids? Okay, kids,

816
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: you didn't get a Michael Jordan's tattoo. No, I was never.

817
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: I was not. I love him. If you had money.

818
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,760
Speaker 1: When you're growing up, what you've gotten to Michael Jordan's

819
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 1: maybe when I maybe maybe when I was I would think, yeah,

820
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: maybe when I was a little kid. Yeah, you know

821
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I knew that that would probably

822
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: be something super corny. I wouldn't I wouldn't have did that.

823
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: I love him, but not that much. Uh. What do

824
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: you see when you see John Morn I see UM greatness.

825
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: I see greatness. I see um once in a lifetime talent. UM.

826
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: I see a lot of myself in him, as far

827
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: as the UM, fearlessness, UM, him being a competitor, him

828
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: just being a killer. That kid UM that could UM

829
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: change the game in so many ways. UM. I see

830
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: UM someone UM that you know, his teammates love, and

831
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: they and they follow and they believe in I think

832
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: you know when I thinking about him, UM, when I

833
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: look at the landscape of the NBA and I and

834
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: I see all of the things that go on with

835
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: the UM, you know, guys teaming up to play with

836
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: each other. Now, if Shaquille O'Neill became a free agent

837
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: and wanted to come play with the seventy sixes, I

838
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: would have loved, you know, to play with him with

839
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant. Um. But I never thought about you know,

840
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: going to you know, be with team up with other guys. Um.

841
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: I never thought about that because I always felt like,

842
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, guys on my sport were good enough because

843
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: they they pros dan, you know what I mean. Like,

844
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: and I always used to think, you know, about myself

845
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: and the belief that I had myself, and I thought,

846
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: a damn if you put me with four other professionals

847
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: on a basketball court, then we can't be beat, you

848
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I used to always like

849
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: the best feeling that I had as a basketball player

850
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: throughout my career was the fact that my teammates felt like, um,

851
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: if they had me and the foxhold was with them,

852
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: that we would have a chance to win against anybody.

853
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's how joh teammates feel about him.

854
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: You know, as long as we got him, we could win.

855
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: But could you have changed your style to preserve your

856
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: like have a little bit more longevity because you attacked

857
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: and at some point, like Dwayne Wade attacked and then

858
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,479
Speaker 1: stopped attacking as much, Michael Jordan stopped attacking him. Could

859
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: you have changed and do you do you think Josh

860
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: should be concerned about that attacking all the time. I don't.

861
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: I don't. I think, um, you know, if he tried

862
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 1: to alter his game, he wouldn't be him, He wouldn't

863
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: be the guy that he is today. And you know,

864
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: I don't have too many regrets. I think probably the

865
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: only regret that I have in my career is is

866
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: that I didn't listen to Coach Brown earlier. You know

867
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: what I mean, if if if I was able to

868
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: take constructive criticism a lot better than understood that it

869
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: was constructive criticism and not him just getting on me

870
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: just because he wanted the same thing that I wanted,

871
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and that was to win.

872
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: And if I would have let him polish me a

873
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: lot earlier, I think it would have made me better,

874
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: and it would have made us better. And one more thing,

875
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: I think, me being someone that didn't like to live weights,

876
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: I kind of regret that because I think how much

877
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 1: better could I have been if I would have been

878
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: a lot stronger, you know what I mean. I remember

879
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: a time with Billy King. We had a new strength

880
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: and conditioning coach, and Billy King introduced me to him

881
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, why would you. We're

882
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: not gonna have a good We're not gonna have any

883
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: type of relationship. You know, I didn't. I didn't like

884
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: to lift weights because I thought they were too heavy.

885
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: But looking back on it, like, but you didn't like

886
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: to practice either, man. That was that was that was

887
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: that was such, that was so off and and that

888
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: was that was something that that bothered me a lot

889
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: because um, I think, uh, the way kids look up

890
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: to me, um, and the way guys, even even guys

891
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: in the league look up to me. I didn't never

892
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: want them to think that that wasn't important and and

893
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: that wasn't a message that I was sending, you know

894
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: what I mean. There was just that um that press

895
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: conference and they just kept asking me about the same thing,

896
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: and I got fed up. And it was just one

897
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: of those days that Um, I didn't want to you know,

898
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk about that I was I

899
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: was there to the press conference was to tell my

900
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: fans in Philly that I wasn't getting traded. That was

901
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: that was it, you know what it was about that

902
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: just met with coaching Billy King, and they kept asking

903
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: me about practice, and I just I just got frustraded. Man.

904
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: It's still a great line by you though, Yeah, but

905
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: it was just it was interpreted. Dude. Yeah, you can't.

906
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: You can't. There's no way. Now. Now if if if

907
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: people do think that I didn't like the practice and

908
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: I didn't practice, then damn how good probably is the

909
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: things that I've done without practicing. No way, you should

910
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: do one of those NFTs of that press conference where

911
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: you're saying, we're talking about practice and you can make

912
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: some money on that. Very lucrative. Yes it is. I

913
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: was there at game one when you played the Lakers

914
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: in the final and he went off. Then I'm thinking,

915
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: can Philadelphia win four games? I didn't think you guys

916
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: could win four games against that talent? But what did

917
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: you think? Would you have eight against you? Yeah? I definitely,

918
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: I definitely thought. I definitely thought that we could win.

919
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: Um when we won game one, we had Game two.

920
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: I think Derek hit a big shot on me at

921
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: the UM at the end. UM, I think I didn't

922
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 1: get over a screen or I was trying to help

923
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: or something and hit a big shot. But we had

924
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: him in game had him in game two as well. UM.

925
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: But all in all, they were a better team. I mean, um,

926
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: you know, Um made rest in peace and God bless him.

927
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: You know, Kobe Bryant, he didn't destroy us, you know

928
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: what I mean, like he had in the regular season. Uh,

929
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: Shaquille O'Neill beat us, and everybody talked about the Ken

930
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: Bay having a great series, but Shaq average like thirty

931
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: something in fifteen and we we couldn't. We tried and

932
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: we couldn't deal with them. But all in all, they

933
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: were just a better team than us. They just you know,

934
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: they had the talent obviously, um, and you know, they

935
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: were just a better team at the at the end

936
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: of the day. What's it like standing next to shock?

937
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 1: You ever stood next to a tree, A big tree,

938
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Moves that moves move and

939
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: look and and and well, we'll run into you. Not

940
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: a stationary tree that you have to run into now,

941
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: that will run into you. But I'll be around him

942
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: now and and and it amazes me, like I used

943
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: to actually go in here and have him contest my shots,

944
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: Like I must have been out of my mind that aggressive,

945
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, to go in there with

946
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: him and it if you could give me one season

947
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: right now, would you play for the nets of the Lakers.

948
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: You had to pick between those two the next and

949
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: the Lakers with the squad they have right now, Um,

950
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 1: I don't let me see. Was Kyrie Kyrie was considered

951
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: a UM A two guard this year, right, Yeah, he

952
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: was considered a two. Yeah. I don't know. I would

953
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: rather whatever team that I could have played the two. Well, man,

954
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: I think with the Lakers, Russ obviously would have been UM.

955
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: He would have been the point. He would have been

956
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: the point, and then I could be off the ball

957
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: and I could guard the point guard he could god

958
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: to guard, being how big he is, and then Lebron

959
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: could have played the three. So I think I would

960
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: probably fit better with the Lakers, you know, being at

961
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: you know, Kyrie is being as great as he is, UM,

962
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: and now we would have just been too small of

963
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: a backcourt to try to match up with people. Could

964
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: Lebron ever surpassed Michael Jordan it's the best player in

965
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: your opinion? I would, I would, I would never. I

966
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: would never put anybody before him. I mean, you know,

967
00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: obviously for you know, personal reasons, um, because you know

968
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: what he means so much to me and what he

969
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: meant so much to me in my life, in my career. Um,

970
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: and then I just think, you know, he's the greatest

971
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: player to ever play. Um. I think Lebron James is

972
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: the greatest all around player you know that ever played

973
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: the game. I mean he's definitely on the mountain Rushamo

974
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 1: or basketball, um, you know, but definitely you know him. Lebron, Um, well, Mike, Kobe, Lebron,

975
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: Shaquille and Steph are definitely my all time favorite. It's

976
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,959
Speaker 1: great to talk to you. I hope you're doing well.

977
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 1: Could you could you play ten minutes tonight? Like if

978
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: somebody needed you tonight, could you play ten No? I

979
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: probably can go. I probably can play ten minutes, but

980
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: they have to be in one minute, stretcher. I had

981
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: to win for that. No more, damn in a minute.

982
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean forty seven. I know I'm forty six years old.

983
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: In June, I'll be forty seven, So I don't even

984
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: think about that. And then when I get tired, you

985
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,959
Speaker 1: and jump shots now, Man good Luck is the brand

986
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: ambassador there for points beet and great to catch up

987
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: with you again. Thank you, Thank you man, thank you man,

988
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: big fan, and thanks for having me. Man. I appreciate

989
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: you