1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Do good normal Wednesday, So get cranking away. A lot 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: of work to get done and nice day to do it. 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Kicker making his way west. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he should 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: be here I think tonight. Yeah, so you don't have 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: to take any steps to prepare for any issues with him. Yeah, 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: it's will be good. Yeah. I think I think he's 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: on the plane right now coming back. So what's it 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: like defensively? Going from Rogers to Jackson seems like too 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: significant challenges? Uh, I'd say another significant challenge, just like 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: it was last week. This guy is extremely talented really 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: in all facets. His winning percentage since he's been a 12 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 1: starting quarterback is which is one of the tops. Make 13 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: plays with his arm, make plays with his legs. He's 14 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: a he's a dynamic player. He's one of the best 15 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: in the league. Party is hard. You know this team 16 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: has has an identity? Now? Is it hard to imagine 17 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: its team without wink here? There was a time earlier 18 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: your tenure when it there's gonna be somebody Else's the 19 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: defense befoarded? Yeah, I don't. I never thought about it to. 20 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: I'm glad he's here. I think we have guys that 21 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: worked really hard. Um wink CAFCA team back do a 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: good job of leading their respective units. Um, I never 23 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: thought about it. What was the process like? So you 24 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: get the job obviously, and I'm sure you had de 25 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: coordinators in mind and Pat was there right, So what 26 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: was the thought process like going through all that? You know, 27 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: did you have a list in your head of five 28 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: six guys and Wink on that and on that, go go. 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: You always do when you're getting ready for those things. 30 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: But you know, when when Pat decided to go to 31 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: the Raiders, Um, you know, we interviewed Wink with a 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: bunch of other guys and I felt he was right 33 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: fit and he's done a good job come out of 34 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: the game, and you expect him to be completely this 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: week with U he came out good. Yeah, I think 36 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: he'll make continue to make progress. But yeah, he came 37 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: out good. He feels better today than he did last Wednesday, 38 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: Quan h relative to today. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna he'll 39 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: be out there practicing. They probably limited role, um, but 40 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll be okay for back back on wing for 41 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: a second. How much do you sense that this game 42 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: has a lot of meaning to him? Or I don't 43 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: you know? We we we we talked about it, you know, 44 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: not just this week, but when you're in the league, 45 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: as long as some of us have been in league, 46 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: you're you're bound to be on different teams and play 47 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: against different teams players too. So I think our focus 48 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: is just getting ready to play this week, trying to 49 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: come up with a good plan for their offense, for 50 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: their defense, for their kicking game. Um, I think we're 51 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: all pros. We've all been on different teams, We've played against, 52 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: teams we've coached, or play people we've worked for. So 53 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: I think it's status quo. What you can say about 54 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: the injuries, guys constantly have people going out the ones 55 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: that you've brought in that they're able to step up 56 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: and and just kind of meet the moment. One credit 57 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: to those guys for picking up our system is as 58 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: quick as they can to. I'd say the position coaches 59 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: that work with them, just for example, like Jerome Uh, 60 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, and Try or Mike, both of those guys 61 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: done a great job. You know, you got Lane and 62 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: McLeod out there that haven't been with us for a while. 63 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: So again, I always give credit to the player first, 64 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: but then you know, there's a lot of extra meeting 65 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: time besides the big main team meetings, if you will, 66 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: to try to get those guys as comfortable and as 67 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: ready as they can be. Where do you see from 68 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: those positional coaches like in those meetings are the discussions 69 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: that you have with them after why it's successful? How 70 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: like after they meet with the guys, well you just 71 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: you know, as a head coach, you just asking them, 72 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: you know, m does this guy understand exactly what he 73 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: needs to do if we put him out there? Um, 74 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: you explain to the player. That's the expectation is to 75 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: whenever you get here, to start digging in not just 76 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: how we do things again with the playboat, but how 77 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: we do things in our building. So I'd say, you know, 78 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: the support staff, people like Laura Young, uh, that kind 79 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: of explain everything that we do around here and what 80 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: we're supposed to do, how we're supposed to be, and 81 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: then the position coaches who spend you know, a lot 82 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 1: of extra time. Again that's our job as a coaching 83 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: staff is to get our guys ready to play. How 84 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: much of you like adjusted maybe with the offense, your 85 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: vision for it was when you started putting in the 86 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: spring and even in camp to what you guys actually 87 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: running now and it's been you know, successful. Um, I'd 88 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: say that's a continual process. You know, I said it 89 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: earlier in the season. You go out there, particularly a 90 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: new staff with with new play callers, and the players 91 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: are getting accustomed to the play callers. Play callers are 92 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: getting customed to players. I think you're always tinkering on things, 93 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: Dan um By, no means are we a finished product. 94 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: We know we do that. We look at our tape, 95 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: we say, boy, that's just doesn't look real good. Let's 96 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: kind of transition a little bit more towards this. Maybe 97 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: you add some new things, but you're always trying to 98 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: develop as the season goes on. Um all the way 99 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: through to the end, but particularly in the early part 100 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: of the season. I'd say that happens a lot value, 101 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: you know, building that offense. Do you see opportunities to 102 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: get se Quant even more involved as a receiver in 103 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: a passing game or our teams kind of taking that 104 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: away from you guys. No, I'd say we try to 105 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: get you know, if we think he's a good player. 106 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: Obviously we think s Quan is. There's you know, you 107 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: can unless you're calling a screen pass or obviously a 108 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: handoff to the particularly you know exactly where it's going. 109 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: In terms of the passing game, if it's not a screen, 110 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: there's usually you know, between two to three to four 111 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: to five options based on the protection. So we've used him, 112 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: i'd saying, a variety of rolls, along with a lot 113 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: of other guys too. But again, our job is to 114 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: figure out what our guys do good and try to 115 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: you know, put him in those spots. In terms of 116 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: the guys who didn't play Sunday, I Gas, Flat, Tony Vallada, 117 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: disease one day. They're gonna practice today, one at a time. Sorry, sorry, yeah, 118 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: Flat Flot will not practice today. Tony Tony which Tony Darius, 119 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: Tony Tony h he will not practice today. Kenny will 120 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: not practice Disease in one deal. Disease and one Deal 121 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: will both be limited. Tony Jefferson's Tony will not practice today. 122 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 1: Is it injured? It is yeps doing that all well. 123 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: I looked at the phone, and I looked at the injury. 124 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 1: What about protocol? Tyrod will be limited today, kind of 125 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: transition into normal practice after today. Hopefully Leo will be limited, 126 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: but trending upward, you know, a lot of those guys 127 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: are getting better, so we'll see you're a senior situation sustainable. 128 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: You know, you brought in a guy to practice squad. 129 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: You've seen there's some guys with some it's a touch 130 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: of long term issues. Can you go on like this 131 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: without bringing more people in it? Yeah? I think the 132 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: guys we put out there did a really good job 133 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: where they're supposed to be when they're supposed to be there, 134 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: made plays on the football. Marcus has really come along. 135 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: I think coach grow has done a good job with him. 136 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: He had some familiarity with him and has a good 137 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: skill set um. And then you know, it's proud of 138 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: the way Slay competed and produced so and Richie's done 139 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: a great job for us all years. So I feel 140 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: confident in those guys. It seems like you've had a 141 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: trust and a confidence in Daniel Bellinger almost from the start, 142 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: you know. I mean he was seen to be the 143 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: in mind to be the starter right away and kept up. 144 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: What was that true? And what have you seen since then? Yeah? 145 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: I think he's come a long way, and he'll be 146 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: the first to tell you he can. You still gotta 147 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: keep on improving, but I'd say he's a tough minded individual. 148 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: Tight End is a difficult position to go from college 149 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: usually to the NFL. We asked him to do quite 150 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: a bit. I've been very happy with how he's approached things. 151 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: I've been on him pretty early on, you know, having 152 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: coach the tight ends for a little while too. Um. 153 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: You know, Brandon Brown, Tim McDonald did a great job 154 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: of scouting him coming out. They were huge proponents of 155 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: him during the draft process and as we got to 156 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: know him, um, what he stood for, some of the 157 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: intangibles that we look for. He's done a good job 158 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: and you know, we've asked him to do a variety 159 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: of things, um, and he just gets a little bit 160 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: better each day. But again, it's a it's a tough position. 161 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: They all are, but it's a tough position to go 162 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: from college right away to the NFL. And uh, you know, 163 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: give Brandon and Tim some credit to of they really 164 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: stood on the table for him and when they did 165 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: their evaluations, look at you know, the collegue production and everything. 166 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't scream this guy is going to be a 167 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: big time either or anything like that. It is their 168 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: meat on the bone for him, and that in that absolutely, Yeah, 169 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean he's We've still got a long way to go. Ye, Sorry, 170 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: what do you talk Obviously he asked you about the 171 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: emotional factor for familiarity with Wayne Can when you go 172 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: against other teams that you play, But there's also a 173 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: schematic thing I would imagine for you guys. I mean 174 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: they know him well, he knows more well. M How 175 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: much do you talk about that early in the week 176 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: to know that, Yeah, you have conversations. Again, just like 177 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: wherever I was at it, there was somebody on that 178 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: team before. You always have conversations, try to pick up 179 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: as much as you can. But at the end of 180 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: the day, you gotta put a good plan together and 181 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: it comes down to executing on the field. And you know, 182 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: I could ask him all I want about Lamar Jackson, 183 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: but we've got to do a good job. It's hard 184 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,599 Speaker 1: to stop him. Not many teams do it. How you know, 185 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: you're evaluating, you'll this whole season obviously, just to see 186 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: what his future is going to be here. How much 187 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: did last week handling the injury, playing that game, leaving 188 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: that drive without sake one on the field, how much 189 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: does that all his stock A little bit in that 190 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: in that process. Yeah, I don't know if I I 191 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: just look at it from how he's been since we've 192 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: been here with O. T. A. S. And the things 193 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: he's done to get better. Um Again, I've said it 194 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: A naws him. He's works as hard as you can. 195 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: He comes in, he's he does a great job with 196 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: the players around him of of leading them, of helping 197 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: them with the offense. And you know, each week, I 198 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: think you get a little bit more comfortable. Again, we're 199 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: five weeks into really live competition. Um, so I think 200 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: you learn a lot about players, not just Daniel but everybody. Um. 201 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: And he's done. He's done a good job for us. 202 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: Two more, two more. The dory will be limited today, Dames, 203 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 1: when you talk when you you're here because this had 204 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: been a losing the organization for a number of years, obviously, 205 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: I'm curious what you've seen from your team, your locker 206 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: room now that it's winning. Well, I wasn't, I wasn't here. 207 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: I just can I I just try to work this week. 208 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: That's really what I try to do with with the 209 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: guys too. I think handle winning well about you know, 210 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: they're a little bit immature, it's new to them. Whatever. Yeah, 211 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: you're constantly teaching them in meetings, talking to him about 212 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: different things. The biggest thing we can do is go 213 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: out there and have a good day. You can't look 214 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: too far about you know, too far behind you where 215 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: you were, and you can't look too you know, much 216 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: ahead of yourself where you're going. You've got to focus 217 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: on what you can control. Because I've said it before, 218 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: this legal humble you very quickly. Um. And there's certainly 219 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: a lot of things we can do better, from a 220 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: coaching staff to players, all of us collectively as an organization. 221 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: That's where that's where we're at. That's just what we 222 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: try to do, is get a little bit better each stay. 223 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: You guys knew he had a needle passport going to 224 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: and basically you knew he might not come back with you. 225 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: And everything was in the works too, you know, get 226 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: that rectified. Yeah, we knew all everything that led up 227 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: to where it is today. We we already knew, um okay, 228 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: but we'll see, hopefully assume tomorrow