1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day at Bloomberg 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: dot com, the radio, plus mobile lapp and on your radio. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg Business flag from Bloomberg World Handquarters. 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie Pellett. Google has won a jury verdict that 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: kills Oracles claim to a nine billion dollar slice of 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: the Servants Giants Android phone business stocks ending the Thursday 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: session a little change. 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Give 25 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: us a little idea of the market for educational technology, 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: and maybe you can use your own tail, your own 27 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: story of a one thousand dollar loan and now a 28 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: Silicon Valley bat VC backed company, as a kind of 29 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: a metaphor. Certainly so, the education technology in general is 30 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: a highly fragmented market and there's a lot of friction. 31 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: And I actually started this company, Varsity Tutors, based on 32 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: my own personal frustrations with tutoring. When I was I 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: had some really remarkable experiences. I had some very frustrating 34 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: experiences with tutors, and there were times when I could 35 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: have benefited from private tutoring, but I just couldn't find 36 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: anybody in time. There was just too much friction and 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: there wasn't a great way to find a high caliber 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: individual quickly in a cost effective manner. And that that 39 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: trend is indicative of a general problem in education today, 40 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: and education technology is increasingly solving that, and I think 41 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: within tutoring, within UM learning management systems, you're increasingly staying 42 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs focusing on ripping out some of the friction and 43 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: inefficiency that is historically plagued education. So there you were 44 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: in high school, then you went to what Washington University 45 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: and you had this thousand dollar alone that you've turned 46 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: into what a fifty seven million dollar company? Is that? 47 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: Is that the latest figure? Yeah, so we've now raised 48 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: fifty seven million dollars a day. And I started the 49 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: business with a thousand dollar loan from my parents about 50 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: nine years ago when I was a junior in college 51 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: at Washington University in St. Louis. And initially I I 52 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: was receiving help from a couple of friends who are 53 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: far more academically gifted than I was in a calculust course, 54 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: and I just realized that they could be incredible tutors. 55 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: They had great communication skills, they had an expert level 56 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: subject knowledge. There were people that you'd want to hang 57 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: out with for a couple of hours a week, and 58 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: that was the initial impetus for starting the business. Since then, 59 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: we've added a lot of technology and over time of 60 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: transition front and from what used to be a hundred 61 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: percent in person tutoring platform to now at online in 62 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: person business. And just this week we launched a mobile 63 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: tutoring app that allows you to get on demand access 64 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: to experts with live video chat. What is the most 65 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: requested course or tutor that you've seen? It's definitely Calculus 66 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: by a mile Calculus And how much would it cost 67 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: someone to have a tutor for Calculus? So it depends 68 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: on where you are in the country. Typically across the country, 69 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: on average, it's about fifty five an hour. In New 70 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: York City, it's a little bit more expensive, sometimes in 71 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: the low seventies per hour, but that's typically about half 72 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: the price of what other companies would charge for a 73 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: comparable quality ton We we really differentiate ourselves of providing 74 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: a high quality service at a very low cost. I 75 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: think it's I want to ask you specifically about St. 76 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: Louis because I've gotten to know some folks in the 77 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: tech community out there going out to interview the St. 78 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: Louis Fed President. Your bullock, right, has nothing to really 79 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: to do directly with technology or startup, but it's interesting. 80 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: I think people who aren't in the Valley right or 81 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: in New York Silicon Alley, or even in Boston. They 82 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: sometimes feel it's a little bit tougher to get things 83 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: off the ground. And in fact, you've recently opened an 84 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: office in Seattle, which has become hotter and hotter and hotter. 85 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: What is your experience spend well. You know the world's 86 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: becoming increasingly global, and there certainly isn't as much access 87 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: to capital in St. Louis as there is in say 88 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: San Francisco. But I can tell you that today, compared 89 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: to when I started this company, it's become increasingly easy 90 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: to get access to mentors who have done it before. 91 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: I think that's one thing that San Francisco has done 92 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: well for a long time, and something that St. Louis 93 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: has really put a lot of energy into UH and 94 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: is starting to do well. But given the increasingly global 95 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: nature of the world, the fact that investors can't find 96 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: promising companies on the internet with a lot of ease, 97 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: it's actually quite easy um to raise money now in 98 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: a city like St. Louis compared to what it was 99 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: like ten years ago. So there's an incredible tech ecosystem 100 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: emerging in St. Louis and Parsity tutors is excited to 101 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: be headquartered here. What qualifications do you need to become 102 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: a tutor for varsity tutors? So we look for people 103 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: with incredible communication skills, who have deep knowledge in a 104 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: particular subject. So we do full diagnostic tests to assess 105 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: content knowledge for particular subject. We look for people at 106 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: a high level of commitment um and history of performing 107 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: it at a high level in academic so we look 108 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: at their transcripts and test scores and other indicators of 109 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: historical academic success. Well, it seems that your price point 110 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: averaging in the fifty dollar per hour ranges, you know, 111 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: compared to some places that that is seems like a 112 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: very fair, very good price that would be attracted in itself. 113 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: I just have to ask you, though, ask everybody this 114 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: kind of question. Is in your position, what advice would 115 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: you have for somebody else who has gotten idea maybe 116 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: a little money to get off the ground, especially after 117 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of competition out there. Sure, I think 118 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: that the most important lesson that I've learned is about 119 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: really um never giving up. And the half of it's 120 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: about tenacity and the other half is about um. You know, 121 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: measuring your results and constantly trying to improve against some 122 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: benchmark beach set for yourself. Well, I want to thank 123 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: you very much for joining us, Chuck Cohen. He is 124 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: the chief executive and the founder of Varsity Tutors, based 125 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: in St. Louis, Missouri. You know I could have used 126 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: some of this company's help years ago. Kim Calculus, Oh gosh, yes, 127 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, mostly calculus, maybe little physics too, well, Chuck, Oh, 128 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: and we're so happy you joined us today on taking Stock. 129 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm Kathleen hayesel One with pim Fox. This is Bloomberg Radio. 130 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: Coming up Bloomberg Laws, brought to you by the Suffolk 131 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: County i d A financial incentives and programs to help 132 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: your business thrive on Long Island Physics Suffolk i d 133 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: A dot Org