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Speaker 1: Welcome to you, and that's what you're really miss podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the new era of the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, this is it, Jenna, this is post Glee, and

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Speaker 2: that's what you really missed. But we're not stopping with

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Speaker 2: rewatch and just expanding it to other musical things, musical movies, stories,

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Speaker 2: all the guests, all the people that worked on these things,

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Speaker 1: Kevin, we talked about deeply, in depth about what we

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Speaker 1: diving into some of the most iconic musical movies ever,

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Speaker 1: from Rocky Horror to Hairspray, I mean, Greece, Chicago, West

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Speaker 2: doing it all. Also, we're not just doing movies. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna do some TV as well, like Smash in Nashville

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, we're going to have so many

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Speaker 2: It basically brought back the musical for a whole new generation,

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Speaker 1: The movie only had ten days of rehearsal Kevin, It

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Speaker 1: Disney Yeah and High School Musical was Disney Channel's most

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Speaker 2: This movie was so big Michael Jackson watched it and

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Speaker 2: It's Michael, I really enjoyed your movie.

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Speaker 1: And I guess Ephron cried because yeah, I would cry too.

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Speaker 2: Oh you ready, Jenna, I'm ready. Troy and Gabriella meet

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Speaker 1: It's funny because after like obviously you have like Breakfast Club,

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Speaker 2: So well, I think part of that is budget, purely

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Speaker 1: It's like the Disney model, right, Like Disney had such

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Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily watch it on repeat, but I listened

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Speaker 2: There's some like story holes you know that don't really

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like yeah, like it doesn't matter,

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Speaker 2: Here's my thesis. Analysis analysis the actors. They cast this

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Speaker 2: away with murder. Yes, she does everything that comes out

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Speaker 2: me and this rewatch. So that's one. Two you did

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Speaker 2: I think the Kenny Ortega of it all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good director, right, It's like all

437
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: the things he's done are so different and he like

438
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: he like breathes the world and like creates it and

439
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: it leans into it.

440
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: Right, let's see what it is. It doesn't complicate it is.

441
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 2: It's just a simple thing. I think the numbnumber one

442
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: takeaway from this and this is really obvious. But this

443
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:12,479
Speaker 2: music is really good. These songs are so good. It

444
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: is so hard to write original music for something like this,

445
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 2: you know it's TV, you know it's Disney, and not

446
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: have it feel like it's just filler. Yes, Like, oh,

447
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 2: I'm just going to plug in. There's a relationship. Okay,

448
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 2: We're just going to do it.

449
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: There was a lot of stork in this. This is

450
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: the story, we're telling story. It's driving the plot, yes,

451
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: driving the story. It's driving the characters. It's it's it's

452
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: like the characters are developed as simple as they may

453
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: come across, right, they are. They are just clear, they

454
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: are concise. They are driven by both the actors and

455
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: the story and Kenny, and they are relatable, where these

456
00:25:54,359 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 1: stereotypical book nartworm you know, Jock couldn't possibly veer into

457
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:08,479
Speaker 1: something else that is seen as unconventional, right, Yeah. I

458
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: it's funny because I actually didn't watch this when it

459
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: came out. I was a total theater nerd, and I

460
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: was like, I was also like very pretentious in that theater,

461
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: pretentious in that time of like how could a musical

462
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: on TV about high school kids practically succeed in this way?

463
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: You know, it's like we've been working our thoughts off.

464
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 1: It's like, shut up, Like it's actually really enjoyable. But

465
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: I didn't watch it until I think closer to when

466
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: I moved here for Glee. Really m hmmm mm hmm.

467
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: And I remember vaguely watching high school musical you perhaps,

468
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: and what year did that come out? So maybe I

469
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: did watch it. It was a year after. Wow, that's fast. No,

470
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: maybe it was high school musical. Was there a three?

471
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: Three? Was like in theaters?

472
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Is this the one where he dances

473
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: in the golf course?

474
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: No, that's two.

475
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so I watched too, so I must have seen

476
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: it then entire real time. So that was Actually I

477
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: was still in New York, but there was like a

478
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: sense of I don't know, seeing it through different lens

479
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: this time around last night that was like, is this

480
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: is this a little Disney afied for me? Yes? Stylistically

481
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: like I didn't have the time of my life watching

482
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: it like you did. Yeah, but I appreciate it, like

483
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: they were great, the performances were great, the world was there,

484
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: like all the things lined up for me because I.

485
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: Think I haven't seen it since we did Glee and

486
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 2: then obviously just watching it, and I think it's easy

487
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: to take it all for granted. Everything. It's easy to

488
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: take how hard it is to act one on a

489
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: Disney movie or TV show and two to act in

490
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 2: a musical and perform it like that, and everybody I

491
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 2: didn't see one ounce of doubt and everybody's in anybody's eyes.

492
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: That's probably because Kenny, you know what I mean?

493
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: Just like it's like Zach is not even saying is

494
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: not He's lip singing to somebody else's voice.

495
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: And you never know. I literally was like you never know?

496
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: Bought and sold.

497
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: Can we talk about some of these favorite moments from

498
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: the musical, Like obviously all the musical numbers were really fun,

499
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: especially like the Glee Cheerios numbers for me, like get

500
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: you ahead in the game, Oh my God, like stick

501
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: to the status quo, like the cafeteria, like totally in

502
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: into it. But the auditions, the bad auditions really.

503
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: Got me phenomenal, and I remember each of those.

504
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: I have to say, it actually takes a talented person

505
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: to do a bad audition, believably. It's almost it's like

506
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: it's like playing somebody who's inebriated, right or intoxicated on something.

507
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: You have to play against it and not play into it,

508
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: or it's not as funny. And these guys were like

509
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: so badly good.

510
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 2: And it went on for a long time.

511
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: I also feel like Kenny lives in that world so

512
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: deeply that, like you, you've seen so many bad auditions

513
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: that like whatever he told them or whatever they came

514
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 1: in with was like, that's it, Like I've seen this

515
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: one hundred times before. You're just you're you could be talented,

516
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: there's potential, but you're not there yet.

517
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: My favorite one was the last girl who almost looked

518
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: embarrassed as she was doing it, but still did it.

519
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: And I made up a whole backstory for her because

520
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 2: I was like, she works behind the scenes on this

521
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: movie and they needed somebody. Somebody went up to karaoke

522
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: with her and saw that she loves it but cannot sing,

523
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: and so they're like, we need you to do that

524
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: and just sing your face off, like commit to it,

525
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: like you're in your car, and that was like her

526
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: real voice, and she did it. No offense to that girl.

527
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: The girl who is winking at it's the most awkward

528
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: thing when you're sitting behind a table as a producer,

529
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: director somebody and they're staring straight in the eyes. There's

530
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: actually nothing worse. And we've seen it time and time again,

531
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: and it's one of those rules. It's like a big

532
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: no no. So I just appreciated seeing that one.

533
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: You know, what's such a skill, like all the things

534
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: you just mentioned, like get you ahead in the game,

535
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: stick to the status quo, and these auditions they're all

536
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: like the cliche musical or high school movie tropes. Yep,

537
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: and yet we remember all of these ones so specifically,

538
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: like to be able to take a basketball practice and

539
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: like make it into The choreography is not complicated, but

540
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: it looks great. It looks like high school students could

541
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: actually do this, and it's it's synchronous, it is, and

542
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: it has your moments of drama. It has like the spotlight,

543
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: it has you know, it plays with that, but it

544
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: also like you're doing these beauty. He shoots dance properly.

545
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: Oh, yes it does. Yes, he does, Yes, it does, Yes,

546
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: he does.

547
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: He shoots dance properly.

548
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: He's done this before.

549
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: Nobody. I don't think anybody today shoots dance properly. I'm

550
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: going down with that ship. I don't think anybody does.

551
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: I have yet to see it.

552
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: Since I won't name names, fine, I'm not that bold.

553
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: But for Kenny, Kenny is the beginning and the shoots dance.

554
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: Probably he's like to build out that high school cafeteria.

555
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: We're not getting a lot of angles. No, it's all

556
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: like proscenium, right, it's all like facing out. But man,

557
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: he spaces it, he shoots it. It's it's just it

558
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 1: all works as an independent number. Yes, musical numbers. He's

559
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: shooting musical numbers. Music videos, Yes, pieces of music, music

560
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: videos within the movie.

561
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: We're all in this together. He's like, use it. We're

562
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: doing to bring it online and start that off. But

563
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: like all of it feels unique and special to this world,

564
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: to the high school musical world.

565
00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, try and Gabrielle to meet in on vacation and

566
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: they get stuck pinned together accidentally. I guess.

567
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a real loose, real loose plot here.

568
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: Just throwing spotlights on them, start or something new. They

569
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: meet each other, They're like, let's keep in touch. They

570
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: don't keep in touch. He's like I looked. She's like,

571
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: I look for you. He's like, I had to leave

572
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: the next day. I have your number, but I had

573
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: to leave the next day.

574
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: Plot also, they like took pictures of each other, but

575
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: like when did they? I I feel like, on paper,

576
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: there's no reason why this movie should.

577
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: Have worked totally. But they made it. They leaned in.

578
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: They just believed it so deeply that we believed it,

579
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Yes, they end up

580
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: she gets transferred to the school. They are both in

581
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: their lanes. He's basketball jock, she's the you know, math nerd.

582
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: And they decide that they're going to audition for the musical.

583
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: And they're Archie Nemesis, Becolm Sharpey and and Ryan brother

584
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: and sister duo wonderful Polish duo who lead the drama club,

585
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: do the drama Club. They are the Drama Club. And

586
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: so when these two threatening figures come in, they're like,

587
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: what are we going to do?

588
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: Shout out to Ashley, because I mean.

589
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: She's she also makes like a mean character likable do that? No.

590
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: I was like, it's that line of she leans in

591
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 2: where she needs to lean in, and it's like she's

592
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: sort of awful sometimes but not terrible, Like you don't, well, that's.

593
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: The joy of what it's actually it is terrible, but

594
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: she's actually she makes it not so terrible. Like if

595
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: you read that on paper, you're like, I bet you

596
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: the audition was like you know when you go on

597
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: an audition and you come out and they call you

598
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: back and they're like, can you make it not as mean?

599
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: But everything on the page is mean. She did that.

600
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: She came back and she was like, I'm making this

601
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: not mean, I'm gonna make this character likable.

602
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: In any moment there was like when she snapped, except

603
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: the girl who wrote the whole musical, it's like delicious

604
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: and earned, and so I feel like.

605
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, she does a great job. They do. I mean,

606
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: they're so so great in this and they're just like,

607
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: it's such a nice contrast to Troy and Gabriella, and

608
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: so they evil Knievel. They plot out that they're going

609
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: to to move the audition the callbacks up to the

610
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 1: time of the decathlon and of the of the finals

611
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: right right.

612
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: Because Gabrielle is a smart one, She's gonna they want

613
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: her and like the nerdy friends want her to do

614
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: the decathlon, and obviously Troy and all his basketball friends

615
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: want him to go to the championship game, which also

616
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: is funny because at one point in the movie they

617
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: refer to it as a playoff game, like you've already

618
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: said this is the championship game, and later on you

619
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: say it's the championship game again, So what is it, folks.

620
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: What is it? What is it? They also, I have

621
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: to say the scene where Gabriella they like show the

622
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: video of Troy saying that she doesn't mean anything and

623
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: they're going to go win the final and then she

624
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: just cries and they're like, do you want to go

625
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: to lunch?

626
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 4: I was like, whoa, whoa, she's crying, she's giving us tears,

627
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 4: and they're like, well, we're gonna be at lunch, come

628
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 4: join us.

629
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: You know what I really loved was the mixing of

630
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: all these different groups that clicks in high school, that

631
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: don't get along, but they all teamed up because they

632
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: have the same goal. Even though it was bad.

633
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: There's something about like the community coming together for one

634
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: shared thing that's neither than themselves.

635
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 2: It's like to break up this couple basically from doing

636
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: what they really want to do. The nerds and the

637
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: jocks got to get together to convince Gabriella, you know

638
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: that she has to go to the decathlon or the

639
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: athletes whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, and Troy has to

640
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: go to the championship game because like, Troy doesn't respect

641
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: Gabriella and Gabriella doesn't actually like Troy.

642
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: Right, But how quickly they were to change their tune

643
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: because I was mad at them both. I was like

644
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: the groups. I was like Wow, you guys are really

645
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: very selfish right now, these kids obviously want to do

646
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: the musical. Wow, how selfish could you be? And then

647
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden and they're like, we're so sorry,

648
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: we didn't mean it.

649
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: I love that because you do. I'm like, it's exhausting

650
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: sort of watching its kind of high.

651
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: School like very fair Weather, you know, very fair Weather.

652
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: I feel like both of these musicals, both Glee and

653
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: High School Musical, they have these ideas of what show

654
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: choir is, what high school is like. Do you think

655
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: either of them were more accurate to you or come

656
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: across as a realer version? Are they both kind of

657
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: like suspended in this disbelief?

658
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: I feel like they're more suspended and disbelief, both of them, right, Yeah,

659
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: both of them. They're both camp They're both heightened in

660
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: a number of ways. I think the things that motivate

661
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: them are very real. I think, you know, Gabriella joining

662
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 2: a school and you know, wanting to be low key

663
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: and not be singled out as being like really smart,

664
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: even you know that stops her from auditioning for the musical.

665
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: That all makes a lot of sense, Like been there,

666
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: done that, same for Troy and it's very like Troy's

667
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: storyline is very similar to Finn's storyline, and I think,

668
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: you know, you want to be a leader, but it's

669
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: also like that age of discovery about yourself and it's like, oh,

670
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 2: I also do enjoy this thing, And like I think

671
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: we all have those moments in high school where its like,

672
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: well we have this, like you know, like stick to

673
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: the status quo when you each have like your own

674
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: little private thing but that you know people at school

675
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 2: are going to like make fun of you for and

676
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: you hide it.

677
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

678
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 2: And I think both of these shows, you know, movie

679
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: or show, do a good job of like using that

680
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 2: thing based in reality and then just kind of going

681
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: heightening it. I think Lee was sort of like the

682
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: what's the word the anti high school musical in a

683
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: lot of ways, because like we came out high Schoos

684
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: came out, was clean, it was bright, yeah, well you

685
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: know it was Disney.

686
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: It felt more my high school felt more like high

687
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: school musical. Like I just felt like more based in

688
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 1: this sense of camp but reality, Like I probably would

689
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: have gotten dressed up in a costume to do a

690
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: callback like that felt real to me, you know, and

691
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: maybe not the stereotypical jock, you know, having to give

692
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: choose one or the other because our school we did

693
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: have jocks in our theater program and it was like

694
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: cool to be in our theater program. So it was

695
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: a little bit different, but like it felt more based

696
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: in reality to me, whereas Glee felt like heightened to

697
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: the tenth degree and grounded to the tenth degree. So

698
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: we're just stretching the van I think a little bit

699
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: farther for Glee, and like just the world was bigger, brighter,

700
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: more expensive in a lot of ways, and I think

701
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: high school musical was rooted in a little bit more

702
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: of that, like relatable. I don't know, this is the

703
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: relatable stereotypes. I don't know, it's hard to explain.

704
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 2: But also, like the world itself, there weren't big set pieces,

705
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: you know, like all those things grounded. Yes, yes, yes,

706
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: it feels more relatable. You weren't having your you know,

707
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 2: art pop applause set and rare set right right, Yes,

708
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 2: So I totally agree with what you're saying. I think

709
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: it feels more real because it is it exists within

710
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: the confines of like what high school actually is. Where

711
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: Glee there's obviously a lot more going on than what

712
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: a normal high school could afford to do.

713
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: Before we rate the songs, I have a question for you.

714
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: If you were in Engley and you watched high School

715
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: Musical and then you watch Glee, which one do you

716
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: think you would have related more to or found yourself

717
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: watching more.

718
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: I think Glee only because I liked the darker humor

719
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: of it. I wasn't someone who liked the the bright

720
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: and squeaky clean stuff.

721
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

722
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: I liked like the slight snarkiness and meanness of Glee. Yes,

723
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: And I liked you know them them us doing current

724
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: songs be said, I think they both scratch a different.

725
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: Hitch, totally, totally.

726
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 2: That's the thing about you.

727
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 1: I don't know that like original songs to me hit

728
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: as hard or slap as hard as like the forties

729
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: and the top forties kind of like and just the

730
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: I don't know the scale of songs that we did.

731
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: You know, I think the music may Glee more kind

732
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: of relatable and attractive to me. But I think you're right.

733
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: I think they do scratch a different che And that's

734
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: why I like in all of our interviews and stuff,

735
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: we'd be like we appreciate high school musical for the

736
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: paving the way, but like we are in high school musical, right,

737
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: we're much darker than high school musical. It's I think

738
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: the answer that we gave a lot.

739
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't think it would have worked without it,

740
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: because you need sort of like the antithesis of it.

741
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: Totally totally need that bright spot to show here's a

742
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: different version, and you need to sy Leicester. So yeah,

743
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: but I mean that being said about original music, it's

744
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: a great it's an easier entryway point in, I think,

745
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: but the way in which high school musical was able

746
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: to build in their original songs like everybody already knew them,

747
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 2: like they existed in that universe already, Like when Troy

748
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 2: and Gabriella meet and are doing that song at karaoke,

749
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: like that's an original song but they both know it

750
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: and we just buy it and we accept it. I

751
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: really like that. And I think because those songs are

752
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: so like earwarmy and hooky and pleasant that you just

753
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: want to hear more of them. But I think that's

754
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 2: an exception to the rule. I think that's just really

755
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 2: hard to do.

756
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I also just wanted to point

757
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: out that I love when Troy Bolton is looking over

758
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,720
Speaker 1: the shoulder Kelsey at the music and I'm like, At first,

759
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: I was like, is he reading right now?

760
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: And beyond that, I was like, oh, they've given up

761
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: looking down at the lyrics. Yea, almost immediately, but like again, who,

762
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: I'm just so excited there's two more of these. Oh,

763
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to watch them, Jenna.

764
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: Definitely. I got to see from the day one success

765
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: to like where the budget was.

766
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, because I want to know if

767
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: it grows, if the realism lessens a little bit because

768
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: the budget gets bigger. Like I bet the pilot of

769
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: Glee was way more expensive than the entirety of this movie.

770
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: Oh, hands down, I mean.

771
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: I bet it was.

772
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: No, you're right, You're right. It's also original music. Yeah,

773
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: you know we didn't have to license. Don't stop believing.

774
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: Do you think when you first watched this movie. Let's

775
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: say it was in two thousand and six, and I

776
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 2: remember where I was when I first watched this movie,

777
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 2: like where I was sitting and I watched it by

778
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: myself in the family room. Would you have wanted more

779
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: high school musical?

780
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Well, I don't know that I

781
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: can answer that properly. But what I do know is

782
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: I watched too, right, So yes.

783
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: Like we we were probably both those people who like

784
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: secretly not secretly like we hated it.

785
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: We're like, I have to watch this thing. I'm gonna

786
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: watch the thing. But then you're like, well, I guess

787
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: i'll watch the.

788
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 2: Next There's only so much musical stuff out there exactly,

789
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: and we were both into it, so and now I'll

790
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: watch it and judge it whatever.

791
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And then you're like, well, I guess I'll

792
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: watch a second. Then I guess i'll watch it third. Okay,

793
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: let's let's create performances. Now started something new B plus

794
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah plus, we haven't need somewhere to.

795
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: Gory A plus but yeah, B plus.

796
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: Get ahead in the game. A A. What I'm looking for.

797
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: They're so good. I actually it's so funny, Like I

798
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: remember how I felt watching them and how much I

799
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: didn't like them because I wasn't supposed to.

800
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: Like them run out but the.

801
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: Number, But now I enjoyed them so much because I'm like,

802
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: they're both so good.

803
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: I think I'm giving you today.

804
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: I think so too.

805
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: And what I've been looking for reprise A half plus

806
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: Somewhere to Go. I think that was my favorite sing

807
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: uh stick this asquo a A that when there was

808
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: me and you be Bop to the Top. Honestly banger

809
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: a Breaking Free the Top. Hated it growing up really

810
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: now loved it totally. That's one of those things too,

811
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: where my Daly been like a musical filler. But like

812
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: those they made it they Yeah, I bought into it.

813
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: I bought into it. Breaking Free A.

814
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: Plus A plus like breaking Free is it? Breaking Free

815
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: is the one?

816
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 1: We're all in this together a A. I remember while

817
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: we were in Glee rehearsals, like doing the clap. Yes,

818
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: it's so iconic. Yeah, it's iconical, Kevin iconical chartie takes.

819
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: Let's we're doing our first arty takes in this new.

820
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: Iconical era, going to find anything cringe?

821
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: I mean maybe there wasn't really anything out or the cringe,

822
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: except for like the fact that we weren't naming like

823
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: Troy Bolton and calling Tribolton guy. And they're like, let's

824
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: let's do this stereotypical thing and not really name it

825
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: but just kind of allude to it. It's just fine,

826
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: best dance move. We're all in this together.

827
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're all in this together, followed by Kitchet Oh

828
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I think I think a box step. Lucas

829
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 2: Grabiel was also up there.

830
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: Best song.

831
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: Mine are what I've been looking for Reprise and Breaking Free,

832
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: Breaking Free, So I sing these songs all the time.

833
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: By the you Do Yeah, like I don't remember them.

834
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: I don't remember them like you do.

835
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.

836
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: Best perference, my prop. I really like the cell phones.

837
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: It really like from the start, I was like, this

838
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: is where we are now, I know this time period correct.

839
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: I liked the cake.

840
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: Of course you did oh.

841
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: I also like the Go Drama Club shirts and Ryan

842
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 2: couldn't beat it.

843
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: I like the line Sharpey and zcav where he's like,

844
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: maybe you can watch his plays balls and she's like,

845
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: I'd rather stick pins in my eyes, and then she

846
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: was like evaborate, tall person.

847
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: I also like Sharpay saying Kelsey my sod off some time.

848
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: I guess performs MVP. I mean Vanessa honestly like group effort.

849
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: Vanessa and Zach obviously like held this thing, but like

850
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: group effort.

851
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna yeah Vanessa and Zach, I was

852
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 2: gonna see if I could just do one of them,

853
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 2: but I think it has to be both of them. Okay, okay, Jenna,

854
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: shit we found on TikTok spell word. I don't know

855
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: if I'm doing this. He does the River Deep, Mountain

856
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 2: high trend, but he also says, pov I'm your ra

857
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 2: oh and he has a full find your Glee and

858
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: Honors board.

859
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

860
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: Spencer with a slushie on his door are a Spencer.

861
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: And then he does the run.

862
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 1: Yes, he does the run. We love the run.

863
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: It's so good. I also, I just I'm tickled by

864
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: that that trend, that that run is still a thing

865
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: that really makes me happy. And also like how why

866
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, but really love it. Jen, I really

867
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Speaker 2: enjoyed High School Musical.

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Speaker 1: I did too, I really did. I. I was a

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Speaker 1: little shocked at first. I was like, oh God, we

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Speaker 1: have to watch this musical TV show. I've just been

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Speaker 1: it's been a minute, and I was like, I think

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Speaker 1: I had a notion about it. And when I got

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Speaker 1: into it, I was like I got to lean in

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Speaker 1: like everybody else in this movie leaned, and overall I

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Speaker 1: thought it was exactly what I had hoped for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad that's the thing that became really big. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I got feel good about it. Yeah, me too, Me

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Speaker 2: too deserved. So we have some very exciting things coming.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to coach Bolton himself and fellow iHeartRadio podcast

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00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: host Bart Johnson and Ryan Evans. Lucas Grayville is also

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Speaker 2: going to come on the show and talk to us.

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Speaker 1: So iconic.

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Speaker 2: I can't questions ready for him because, oh my god,

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00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 2: he's a friend of mine. He's become a friend of

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Speaker 2: mine post Glee and.

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Speaker 1: Won the World's Collide.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, and I always ask him so many questions.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to ask him all the questions. I

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00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: have so many questions.

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Speaker 2: I'll just reask a lot of them because O great,

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00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 2: because we never got to like we were constantly compared

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Speaker 2: to high school musical, but we weren't really close with

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Speaker 2: anybody from high school musical yep, And we never got

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00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: to sort of exchange stories or information like how does

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00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 2: this work? Yeah, and afterwards I'm like, would you guys

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Speaker 2: get paid?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well we're not asking that, Kevin.

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00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 2: No, But the technical things like how did tour work

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Speaker 2: for you guys? How did you like? I'm in my

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00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: contracts like yeah, is obviously like that was all worked

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00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 2: into our contract because High School Musical had had done that,

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00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: it could be a thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, come back and we have lots of really fun

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Speaker 1: musical reviews and shows and movies. We hope you guys

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Speaker 1: enjoyed this. Please let us know how we did.

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Speaker 2: Before you go, we have to give you your assignment

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Speaker 2: for next week. A little heads up, you know, the

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Speaker 2: opposite of mister Shue. We're actually planning in advance so

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Speaker 2: you can watch with us. So next up we're going

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Speaker 2: to be watching two thousand and seven's Hairspray. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for listening, and that's what you really missed. Thanks for listening,

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Speaker 2: and follow us on Instagram at and that's what you

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Speaker 2: really miss pod. Make sure to write us a review

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Speaker 2: and leave us five stars. See you next time.