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Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, absolutely, Man, we're killing it right now.

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Speaker 3: Oh we're good now, we're good now.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we got one of the kids usually is

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Speaker 6: up by five forty five am Eastern every day, but

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Speaker 6: beyond that I should be up running miles anyway.

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Speaker 3: At that time of day.

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Speaker 6: hundred straight days right now. I'm like six in, but

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Speaker 3: I like that. My back can't handle the running day

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my favorite thing to do, and now

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Speaker 6: Kid, knowing you maybe a peloton Paul Felders all about

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Speaker 6: the peloton these days, so if you've got space there.

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Speaker 6: But who knows that a lot of these Californians are

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Speaker 6: leaving the state, You know, Joe Rogan's got me thinking

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Speaker 6: about Texas somewhere in the middle of the United States

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Speaker 6: of America. Kem Flow, what do you think about that?

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Speaker 3: You might be seeing me fly away? Who knows? I

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Speaker 3: got to find someplace. But it's getting crazy over here, kid.

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Speaker 6: I got pros and cons on South Florida for you,

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Speaker 6: but I think the cons list would be a little

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Speaker 6: bit too long for you. But a lot to get

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Speaker 6: to today. Laura Sanko's going to join us. In about

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Speaker 6: forty minutes. Ray Longo is going to join us. He

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Speaker 6: loves these primetime shows for one reason or another. So

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Speaker 6: we'll get a new Ray Longo minute. Edmund Shabazi and

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Speaker 6: Derek Brunson three round main event coming up at the

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Speaker 6: UFC Apex this Saturday, August first, so Ian Parker joins

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Speaker 6: us for predictions on that. But UFC Fight Night Whitaker

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Speaker 6: versus Till and Ken Flow, at least, if social media

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Speaker 6: is any indication was really in joy in this headlining

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Speaker 6: fight Kenny Obviously a lot of tactics involved, and Whittaker

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Speaker 3: To exhale at the end of it.

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Speaker 6: He was up against it right in trying to come

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Speaker 6: back from the Adasania fight, and for my money, couldn't

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Speaker 6: have come back more beautifully in a really tough spot

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Speaker 6: and fight, and a lot to congratulate the reaper Robert

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Speaker 6: Whittaker on what I thought was a pretty clear win

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Speaker 3: I love this fight.

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Speaker 4: I thought Robert Whittaker showed up in tremendous shape.

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Speaker 3: He looked great.

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Speaker 4: I thought he balanced his grappling and striking attack very well.

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Speaker 4: He made the proper adjustments. I thought Darren Hill came

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Speaker 4: out looking very sharp in that fight, seemed to be

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Speaker 4: dictating the pace, was landing shots, was fainting his way

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Speaker 4: and making Robert Whittaker pay for a lot of those

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Speaker 4: But then Whittaker really made some nice adjustments, started showing

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Speaker 4: more lateral movements, started landing that left hook, was landing

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Speaker 3: I think the big takeaway for.

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Speaker 4: Me is that Robert Whittaker is the overall better mixed

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Speaker 4: martial artist, and man, did that experience come into play

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Speaker 4: as well? It being a five rounder and Whittaker having

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Speaker 4: all that experience I think really played a big factor.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that Darren Till lost too much in

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Speaker 4: this fight, despite it being a loss. I still think

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Speaker 4: his stock went up going against a former CHAMPIONHI like

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Speaker 4: a Robert Whittaker, but Whittaker man just a little bit

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Speaker 4: too much, you know, grappling skill, and I think timing

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Speaker 3: I think that really was the difference. Darren Till got

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Speaker 6: You could argue that Robert Whittaker won the final four rounds.

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Speaker 6: Some thought it was closer than that. But this whole

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Speaker 6: narrative on Darren Till Kenny and whether or not he's

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Speaker 6: ready for prime time. So I think I suggested in

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Speaker 6: one tweet that this sort of further proved Darren Till's

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Speaker 6: ability to hang with the elite at one hundred and

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Speaker 6: eighty five pounds and one of the responses I got

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Speaker 6: this one from best Missing, Sorry but can't agree with

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Speaker 6: that take on Till.

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Speaker 3: He just isn't active enough.

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Speaker 6: So hesitant to let his hands go unless the moment

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Speaker 6: is just right. So overall on Darren Till in defeat,

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Speaker 6: maybe it's simplistic of me to say that he still

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Speaker 6: belongs in the conversation with the elite one hundred and

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Speaker 6: eighty five pounders. What would you say to those who

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Speaker 6: saw Darren Till as a little bit passive when it

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Speaker 3: So what did he say?

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Speaker 4: He said he only lets his hands go when the

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Speaker 4: time is right, just right, just right.

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Speaker 3: Well, are you supposed to let your hands go when

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Speaker 3: the time is just wrong? Is that? Is that what

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Speaker 3: we're getting used to?

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Speaker 4: Listen, don't don't lower your standards just because a guy

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Speaker 4: used to a certain fight where guys are just kind

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Speaker 4: of standing in a box and throwing down. Yes, it

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Speaker 4: is brave, Yes it is courageous. Is that the most

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Speaker 4: skillful way of fighting? No, Darren Till is an excellent striker,

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Speaker 4: He is superb, And you don't just throw your hands

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't get that. I've never gotten that.

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Speaker 4: This guy is trying to fight at the highest level

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Speaker 4: against one of the best guys to ever do it

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Speaker 4: was measured as he should be. Robert Whittaker is an

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Speaker 4: of fighting. It's not blind aggression. It is smart and

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Speaker 4: calculated aggression. That is the difference. I thought that Darren

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Speaker 4: Till you Know got taken down a little bit too much.

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Speaker 4: I thought he was, you know, selling his feints maybe

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Speaker 4: a little bit too much, showing some tells, was getting

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Speaker 4: caught up in patterns that Robert Whittaker was reading and

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Speaker 4: adjusting to. And if you're showing the same pattern over

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Speaker 4: if he's elite, nav has a lot of experience.

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Speaker 3: Will make the proper adjustments. And I think that really

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Speaker 6: And I think Till and You make a lot of

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Speaker 6: eight points as always. I think maybe he was hoping

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Speaker 6: that there would be an opportunity, but you can't force

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Speaker 6: the finish, you know. I remember talking to Conan Silvera

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Speaker 6: after Amanda nude As fought Felicia Spencer, and she might

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Speaker 6: have had four ten eighths in that fight, if not

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Speaker 6: five of them. But you can't necessarily force the finish.

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Speaker 6: And for those fighters that do stick to a game

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Speaker 6: the opponent doesn't make one. And I thought Whittaker was

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Speaker 6: pretty clean. And again I hate to sound like a

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Speaker 6: trite sports cliche book Kenny, but like back really up

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Speaker 6: against the wall for Whittaker. I just felt like there

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Speaker 6: was a lot of pressure on him coming in there.

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Speaker 6: I liked the fight Island atmosphere for Whittaker. Chuckstaposed against

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Speaker 6: you know, sixty thousand plus in a stadium, But I

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Speaker 6: just feel like this is a huge win for Whittaker

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Speaker 6: and that can't be overstated here.

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Speaker 3: You know, I feel great for the guy.

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Speaker 4: It really was a massive win. The other thing we

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Speaker 4: need to talk about is Darren Till. In order for

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Speaker 4: him to come forward and be more aggressive, it also

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Speaker 4: opens him up to those reactive takedowns that Whittaker was

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Speaker 4: we've seen it so many times before. Is that the

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Speaker 4: fear of the takedown is what's going to freeze up

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Speaker 4: the takedown. So I think again that really came into

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Speaker 4: play for for Robert Whitaker.

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Speaker 6: So this middleweight division, right you had Jack Hermanson with

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Speaker 6: a big win over Kelvin Gaslin. He's number six in

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Speaker 6: the world, Till is five, He'el Romero four, Jared cannoneer three,

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Speaker 6: Paolo Costa, number two in the world. He'll fight isra

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Speaker 6: You got eight versus nine, Brunson and Shabazi in this weekend.

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Speaker 6: Eighty five is just so good right now. And I

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Speaker 6: think you're right Aboutdarren Till. I don't think he loses

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Speaker 6: too much steam. I still think he's a main event fighter,

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Speaker 6: and I think he proved that again second time. I

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Speaker 6: believe going the full five in the UFC. So excited

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Speaker 6: for both guys, and a great way to close out

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Speaker 6: that there fight Island. So fifteen fights on the card

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Speaker 6: can flow. I mean, how many of these fifteen fights

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Speaker 6: you watched? I think I watched five in there in

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Speaker 6: tirty and I'm sure, there are some listeners who might

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Speaker 6: have some criticism with that statement, but it is what

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Speaker 6: it is. You know, fight overload three children. How many

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Speaker 6: of the fifteen fights were you able to ingest over

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Speaker 4: I think I saw around seven like that. Yeah, better

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Speaker 4: than me.

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Speaker 6: So no Fight of the Night performance bonuses for Brecie Overdom,

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Speaker 6: Paul Craig, kam Zad Chimayev, Jesse Ronson, Tom Aspinall and

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Speaker 6: Tanner the Bulldozer Boser is on the goddamn map. Big

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Speaker 6: night for the Canadians, Jesse Ronson and Tanner Boser. But

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Speaker 6: we got to talk about Kamzat Chimayev. I'd imagine at

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Speaker 6: this point you've seen a little bit of what this

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Speaker 6: young man can do.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, ah, he's a beast. I love it.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's how you utilize grappling to beat the

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Speaker 4: shit out of somebody. Yeah, I mean it was just

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Speaker 4: it was pressure all the time. He was either grappling

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Speaker 4: lot of times you see guys that aren't very very

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Speaker 2: Is now times for a Ray Longo minute, and I'm.

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Speaker 6: All right, so Ray Longo now joins US Live. We

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Speaker 8: First off, stomping Pete, I love you baby, thank you

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Speaker 8: But let me tell you, John has predicted two things,

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Speaker 7: That's it.

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Speaker 7: You know, Kenny, the pressure right head not to let

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Yes, that he is.

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Speaker 6: There gotta be some listeners out there who hear you

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Speaker 7: No, there's nobody that. Nobody's gonna deny that. Who you talk?

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Speaker 7: What are you talking about? You're a nice guy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we got to introduce you to my twin brother.

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Speaker 6: He's a lot nicer. But enough about that. So, uh so,

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Speaker 7: Are you?

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Speaker 3: Are you on this bandwagon yet? Have you seen this

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Speaker 8: but for right now, looking good.

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Speaker 3: And ray, what do you think of the main event

438
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 3: between Whitaker and Till.

439
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought it was a chess match. I thought

440
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 7: the right guy won.

441
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 8: I thought Till came out guns blazing, and I thought

442
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,359
Speaker 8: Whittaker was in for a long night. I thought Till

443
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 8: right from the bat had that range. He was loading

444
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,959
Speaker 8: up on some nice shots, but he just went to sleep.

445
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 7: After that.

446
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 8: He fought in spurts and they were just faring few

447
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 8: in between and that was it.

448
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 7: He still landed the better combos.

449
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 8: But they just I think, you know, Whittaker mixed it

450
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 8: up more, you know.

451
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 7: With the takedowns.

452
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 8: Yep, going back to the punching, and he was always

453
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 8: you know, without him, there was absolutely no fight. But

454
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 8: first round, if Darren Till could have did that for

455
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 8: another round.

456
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 7: Or two, heasy win in that fight easy. I thought

457
00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 7: he looked great.

458
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 8: But then reason just the activity, I thought it just

459
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 8: slowed down to a holt almost, and then it became

460
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 8: a chess game. I think they both got dropped and

461
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 8: they were both hesitate and they but whatever their styles are,

462
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 8: they negated each other pretty pretty well.

463
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 6: I'm trying not to get distracted ray with your hair, right,

464
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 6: because there's obviously a lot I want to get to today,

465
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,119
Speaker 6: but you've gotten past like the uncomfortable bad stage, and

466
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,439
Speaker 6: now it just looks excellent, Like if you're listening to

467
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 6: this podcast. You gotta pause it now, don't ingest anymore?

468
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 6: Go to YouTube because you know you got the wings

469
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 6: your son splashed. I mean, is there somebody you're meeting

470
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 6: on August eighth when you go to Vegas?

471
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 3: You just look terrific. He looks like a pro hockey player.

472
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,959
Speaker 7: I'm having what do they call that? My my end

473
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 7: of life crisis.

474
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,360
Speaker 8: I wish it wasn't midlife for I'm not even near

475
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 8: midlife anymore. The end of life crisis. If I could

476
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 8: grow my hair, I'm growing it. That's what the quarantine

477
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 8: did for me.

478
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 7: Kenny.

479
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 3: It looks great. No, it looks great.

480
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Speaker 6: It adds to the show. Think it helps. It helps

481
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 6: the numbers. All right, So a few things that I

482
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 6: have for you today. So you got a number fifteen

483
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 6: next to Marob Dwallis Willie's name. So that's nice to

484
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 6: see him in the rankings. But I see him crushing watermelons.

485
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 6: I don't know if you've seen this on social media.

486
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 6: So you see that, so going Ben askrinstyle, trying to

487
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 6: crush the watermelon, right unsuccessfully. He probably grabbed the hardest

488
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 6: one in the bunch or something. You know, there's no

489
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 6: social distancing going on whatsoever. I know there aren't that

490
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 6: many cases up in New York, but you got thirty

491
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,479
Speaker 6: guys all together. So uh, he's got to fight August fifteenth.

492
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 6: You got to tell the Georgia and to scale it

493
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 6: back with the with the socialism here.

494
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Speaker 8: I'll tell you what, man, there's not a guy in

495
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 8: this gym that thinks anything ever happened.

496
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 7: It's it's mind boggling to me.

497
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, seriously, I'm walking around with a freaking face shield

498
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 8: and a man. Guys, right, what Morob's friend came in tonight,

499
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 8: So I'll me with the face shield and just start

500
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 8: laughing at me.

501
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got to send you a pictures.

502
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 9: Guy.

503
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 8: It looks like a hitman from uh from Kazkhanistan.

504
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 4: Guy.

505
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Speaker 7: The guy's Kenny.

506
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 8: The guys he walked, he took one look at me,

507
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 8: kind of fucking joke with the mean.

508
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 7: And he's honestly, he's the nicest guy in the world.

509
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 7: I love this guy, but he is.

510
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 8: He's huge, and he just was disgusted with me that

511
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 8: I'm that weak of a person that I want a

512
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 8: face shield on?

513
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 3: What country? Was it? Cash CANi stand? What'd you say?

514
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 7: He's another.

515
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wanted a stance.

516
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, he's mask shaming you.

517
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 8: He may shame the hell at him. Yeah, in front

518
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 8: of a group of people. I was just sitting there

519
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 8: trying to mind my own business.

520
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 3: But he's got a podcast to do. He's got to

521
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 3: stay healthy.

522
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 6: Come on, they don't care, all right, h next on

523
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 6: my list, and then I am going to get into

524
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 6: the Herb Dean Dan Hardy situation and see if either

525
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 6: of you fellas have any thoughts on that. Uh, Chris

526
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 6: Wyman has a fight in twelve days, if I'm not mistaken.

527
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: August eighth in Las Vegas.

528
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 6: You mentioned to us off the air that, uh, that

529
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 6: you guys are working together today. So does that mean

530
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 6: he's back from South Carolina before heading west.

531
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Speaker 8: I guess yeah, he's back from South Carolina. He'll do

532
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 8: his last week here. He had a great workout today.

533
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 8: I'm excited to see. I think they gave him a

534
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 8: great fight and this hopefully, you know, you gotta this

535
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 8: will be a good test. I mean, he should be

536
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 8: able to win this fight and then we'll take it

537
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 8: from there.

538
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 7: But he looks great. Cardio is in great shape. You know.

539
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 7: I love one of the boys, so.

540
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 8: I know he did the right thing, and right now

541
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 8: it's uh, I'm excited.

542
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 7: For the fight.

543
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 6: And omar Akmetov has the number eleven next to his

544
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 6: name right now, so that's obviously a good thing. Is

545
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 6: Wyman tries to make another run here in the Middlewake division.

546
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 6: You know what the betting line is on Wadman and

547
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 6: Acmetov by the way, right, No, what is it?

548
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 3: It's a pick him fight, man? Oh wow, pick him fight.

549
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 6: So potentially an investment opportunity for you guys there if

550
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 6: you want to bet on your guy, no pressure. I

551
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 6: mean you know we always pay you for finishes. We

552
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 6: still owe you for that Al Joe backpack by the way.

553
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 7: Oh damn good.

554
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 6: All right, So Herb Dean had a situation with the

555
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 6: stoppage in the Frances go At Tronaldo fight. Some have

556
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,959
Speaker 6: defended the stoppage, others such as Dan Hardy and Paul Felder,

557
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 6: the analysts on the night, I thought it was late.

558
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 6: My point, Ray has nothing to do with the actual stoppage.

559
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 6: I tweeted praise for Dan Hardy because I think analysts

560
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 6: very generally speaking, need to be critical when they believe

561
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 6: the situation calls for it.

562
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: Can't hold back. He didn't do that.

563
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 6: I'm not defending a commentator telling a referee in a vacant,

564
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 6: vast arena.

565
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 3: You know, how to do his job.

566
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 6: And I think maybe there's some adjustment needed from the

567
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 6: analysts in terms of navigating that empty arena. But my

568
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 6: point is that a commentator has to be willing to

569
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 6: say things like oh that's the second time tonight, or

570
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 6: as Michael Bisping has now famously said in a SoundBite

571
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 6: that has been repurposed promotionally, come on, ref right, Like

572
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 6: I feel like an analyst has to be able to

573
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 6: be critical and not worry about making people unhappy. That

574
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 6: being said, the fact that they had this type of

575
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 6: interaction on the night, there's a lot of uneasy parts

576
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 6: of this for me. What were your thoughts on on

577
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 6: the stoppage or anything else?

578
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 8: I just thought, well, first off, he should one hundred

579
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 8: percent be able to voice his opinion.

580
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 7: That's what he's there for. You don't want a bunch

581
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 7: of yes men call in a fight and yeah, yoh,

582
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 7: he did this.

583
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 8: Right, because that's what they they all do, all the commissions,

584
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 8: all the other refs.

585
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 7: They ain't never throw anybody under the bus.

586
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 8: They come up and they come up with excuses and

587
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 8: stuff with what's going on. But I even remember back

588
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 8: in the day when I don't know who was fighting

589
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 8: text Cow, but Howard Cosell was just a whole fight.

590
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 7: This is in hu Maine. This is crazy, you know.

591
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 8: So you need you need that man because that's going

592
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 8: to provoke thought and hopefully that you know, those thoughts

593
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 8: make everything better eventually. But uh, you know, we always

594
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 8: talk about more accountability for those guys.

595
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 7: But look, here's the deal.

596
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 8: One way, either way, I still am happy if Herb

597
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 8: Dean's my referee next week. That's the first thing I

598
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 8: still think in the course the big scheme, I'll take

599
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 8: Curb Dean over anybody. So could should that fight have

600
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 8: been stopped, I would have definitely stopped it, all right.

601
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Speaker 7: But now when I.

602
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 8: Looked at it, because Kenny, when that guy got hit,

603
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 8: you know, that was a.

604
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 7: Complete here's my thing, and I don't know this.

605
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 8: I'm telling you this. This was a night I wasn't

606
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 8: really two in tune with anything. But when he got hit, man,

607
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 8: he jammed up in the air, he held his head something.

608
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 8: If you're looking at that angle, you're stopping to fight.

609
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 8: If you're behind him and you see a guy sit

610
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 8: down on his ass after a shot.

611
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 7: Not the end of the world. It's not a face plan.

612
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 7: So I think if you had the wrong angle on.

613
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 8: That fight and then you went over and the guy's

614
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 8: hands were kind of in front of his head, I

615
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 8: get it.

616
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 7: You don't want you don't want the other guy dictating.

617
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 8: It's like when the guy's choking, he goes he's he's tapping,

618
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 8: or he's out.

619
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 7: And he's not out, you know.

620
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 8: So I think that those are those split second things

621
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 8: that like, again I would I think the fight should.

622
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 7: Have been stopped.

623
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 8: But I think if he was in the wrong spot,

624
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 8: I could see where he made where he made an error,

625
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 8: But you couldn't have been looking at that front view

626
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 8: where that guy' say. I mean you could see that

627
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 8: computer guy short circuit and that guy was out. I

628
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 8: mean he lost bodily functions going down, and I guess

629
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 8: you know herb got confused and maybe you know, because

630
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 8: it's a smaller you know the arena, he heard.

631
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 7: Something something you know confused him.

632
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 8: But those those are split second decisions, And look, you

633
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 8: are kind of damned if you do damned if you don't.

634
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 8: So I'm saying, even if he made a mistake and

635
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 8: I think the fight should have been stopped, me personally,

636
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 8: I'd love to see him as my ref the next time,

637
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 8: because I think those are crazy situations, you know, And

638
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 8: I don't I don't know if I'm doing this thing

639
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 8: justice or not, but I think that one, you know,

640
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 8: I just I'm glad.

641
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 7: The guy's all right at that point.

642
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 8: But if you were looking at it from Tronaldo's standpoint,

643
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 8: that fights over.

644
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, ken flow, what do you got kid? Yeah, one

645
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: hundred percent.

646
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 4: You know, Ray made a lot of great points, and

647
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, it's possible that herb Dean

648
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: just didn't have the right angle. He's a very experienced ref.

649
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 4: I think he's as consistent as you can be in

650
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 4: this sport. He's excellent. But that that was I thought

651
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 4: of late stoppage. When you see a guy who is

652
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 4: essentially frozen after he gets hit with a big shot.

653
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 4: This isn't just you know, he didn't just get dropped

654
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: or you know, slip or one of those things where he.

655
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 3: Was kicking and he got hit with all of.

656
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: That overhand Okay, overhand left, I believe from knocked him

657
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 4: down frozenim his.

658
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: Arm and leg is up in the air.

659
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 4: He's frozen, He's not even moving and he takes what

660
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 4: another two or three hard shots. Those are the shots

661
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Speaker 4: that you really want to avoid taking when you're already

662
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 4: unconscious or your your body, your brain is frozen.

663
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Speaker 3: So it's a mistake, you know. I think we all

664
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Speaker 3: make them. We're human.

665
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Speaker 4: And as far as you know the Dan Hardy thing,

666
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: I think you should be able to speak your mind.

667
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 4: You know what happened off camera, whether you know you

668
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 4: showed him discussing all that stuff. My understanding this is

669
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 4: what Dan Hardy talked about, is the fact that Dan

670
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 4: Hardy was, you know, just staying in place. It was

671
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: Herb Dean who went over to him to discuss him

672
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 4: making that point. So Herb Dean went over Dan Hardy

673
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 4: to have a discussion. It wasn't Dan Hardy kind of

674
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 4: seeking Herb Dean out.

675
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Speaker 3: Is my understanding of what transpired there about.

676
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 6: Right So Ray and I know I probably speak for

677
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 6: Kenny when I say this. The only time I've had

678
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 6: communication with a referee on a fight night would be

679
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 6: in the rare occurrence where they would come over to

680
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 6: the fence, maybe early on when it's not super loud

681
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 6: and try to pass along something having to do with

682
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 6: the ruling, right, But generally speaking, there should be no

683
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 6: interaction between commentator and referee on fight night, you know.

684
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 6: Like I've even complained at times in this recent climax

685
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 6: at the Apex, I could say to our audience when

686
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 6: I've seen officials like walking through the broadcast space, like

687
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 6: in this era of social distancing, what do they even

688
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 6: need to be walking behind me for? And I say

689
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 6: that with all due respect, but there doesn't need to

690
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 6: be that type of interaction. So obviously there's gonna be

691
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 6: some lessons learned, and I don't know how, you know,

692
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 6: the sides are going.

693
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Speaker 3: To handle this.

694
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 6: One thing I learned ray is that when I introduce

695
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 6: a referee, I can still say no nonsense, Keith Peterson.

696
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 6: But I can't say, all right, here's Jason Herzog, one

697
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 6: of the best referees in the game, can flow.

698
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: I can't say that anymore.

699
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 6: That's what I learned, right, because I'm not going to

700
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 6: put that in front of some of these referees. And

701
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 6: that's me giving my opinion on a referee. I'm all

702
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 6: for criticizing performance, but I'm not going to be anointing

703
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 6: these guys when they step out there anymore.

704
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: You could be damn sure.

705
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I think that's fair. I think everything is fair.

706
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, like again, I think again, I

707
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 8: just thought only because he sat down kind of on

708
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 8: his ass and then he went backwards, maybe that was confusing.

709
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Speaker 7: I don't know. I'd have to really hear what he

710
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 7: has to say.

711
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 8: But again, if it was a face plant, that fights

712
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 8: one hundred percent over. But to look at the angle

713
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 8: we looked at on TV was brutal. That is no

714
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 8: question in my mind. If anybody saw that, they stopped

715
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 8: that fight immediately. I just don't know if he was

716
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 8: in position to see that. Looked like from the tape

717
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 8: he was on the other side and then he ran

718
00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 8: around back.

719
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 7: But I don't know. It's not a tough one because

720
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 7: the fight should have been stopped.

721
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 8: I'm saying it was a tough decision to make based

722
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 8: on some circumstances what I think, and I don't know.

723
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 7: I could be completely wrong. I don't know, but I

724
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 7: would have stopped the fight personally.

725
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 4: And another thing during the commentary, I think it says something,

726
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 4: you know, fighters are always going to have another fighter's back,

727
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 4: whether it's for them to continue or for them to

728
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 4: stop the fight.

729
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: Fighters love seeing fights go on, you know.

730
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 4: They want to see that the referee gives a fighter

731
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 4: a chance. When you have a guy like a Dan

732
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 4: Hardy who's speaking up and saying that fight should be stopped,

733
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 4: you should listen, you know. And I think that really

734
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 4: means something when a guy like Dan Hardy, with all

735
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 4: of his experience, says that a fight should be stopped.

736
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I'll tell you this, there's way worse examples

737
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 8: where a ref is standing there looking at a guy

738
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 8: getting pummeled. Period fou fourteen to fifteen shots, right, you

739
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 8: know what I mean.

740
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 10: So I don't know.

741
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 7: Like again, I think for the most.

742
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 8: He does the right thing, and we need guys like

743
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 8: that still, and there's always gonna be ris I mean,

744
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 8: and that one is well, I'm.

745
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 7: Just glad everybody's healthy.

746
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,239
Speaker 8: But I think he was maybe out of position and

747
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 8: that's what caused the problem.

748
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 7: But again I could be wrong.

749
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: I don't know.

750
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 6: My problem long has been that when there is a

751
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 6: late stoppage, it seems like there's more praise for referees

752
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 6: who let the fights go long. But whenever there's a

753
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 6: premature stoppage. The avalanche of hate for these guys is

754
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 6: just unstopable. So the problem so, so the thing is,

755
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 6: if you're a fan like me who would like to

756
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 6: see an early stoppage rather than a late one, there's

757
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 6: a lot of referee criticism that inevitably comes with that,

758
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 6: and you can't have different determinants for like title fights.

759
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 6: But the fan in me would be like, you got

760
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 6: to have a longer lease for the title fights. Right,

761
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 6: there's a belt on the line. We don't need those

762
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 6: early stoppages. Let them actually go out in title fights.

763
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 6: And that's insanity, right, even though part of my heart

764
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 6: actually agrees with that. All right, So before we let

765
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 6: you go, I mean, scale of one. What's your level

766
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 6: of anxiety getting on a plane here for the first

767
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 6: time in this COVID nineteen situation. Because I will tell you,

768
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 6: as someone now who has gone to Abu Dhabi and

769
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 6: to Vegas multiple times, Once you go through it one time, uh,

770
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 6: there's a conditioning that happens, and I.

771
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: Just think you feel less anxious about the whole process.

772
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 7: Well, we'll see what happens.

773
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, right now, I don't feel like there'll be anything

774
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 8: I have a feeling I'll be drugged up.

775
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 7: I can guarantee you I get.

776
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 8: I gotta say I'm not a drug guy, but I

777
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 8: think I have to for this one, just drug myself

778
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 8: up and see.

779
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 7: Like you say, maybe it's the one time and it's good,

780
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 7: but you know what it is, it's not like you're

781
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 7: dealing with that, you deal.

782
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 8: I got a lot of people balking in my ear

783
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 8: until what is fucking crazy?

784
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 7: What does it mean? What do you do? What does

785
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 7: it mean that you drop that? Is it worth it?

786
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 8: I mean, so you have all the people saying, look,

787
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 8: everything's going to be all right, and you have people

788
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 8: telling you you're an idiot.

789
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 7: So that doesn't help anything, you know. So but you know,

790
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 7: I kind of made a commitment in my head. It's

791
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 7: August being the date, and you know, Long Island is

792
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 7: doing really good.

793
00:34:59,280 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 3: Now.

794
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 8: I think i'd have to make the mistake to get

795
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 8: in trouble, like a big mistake, because you know, I

796
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 8: am conscious of everything.

797
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 7: So we'll see, you know.

798
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 6: We'll throw on that mustache and that mask, and uh,

799
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 6: I look forward to seeing you in Vegas, even from

800
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 6: six feet away.

801
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 7: It's been a while on that way way, so you're

802
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 7: not going to maintain socials. I mean we're hugging each other.

803
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 3: Oh, I'll give you. I'll give you a hug.

804
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I mean I'll from Florida.

805
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: I am from Boston. I live from Florida.

806
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 7: I live in Florida, Florida. Might we may will make

807
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 7: the hug extended?

808
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: Oh I think that?

809
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 6: Yeah everybody? I mean, man, are we an easy target down?

810
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 9: Hey?

811
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: Let me see if I.

812
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 4: My connections who listen to the show can help Ray

813
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 4: Long go out because it's helped the past.

814
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 3: Can we get a body condom.

815
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 4: For for rays country flight?

816
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 3: If anyone has an extra body condom, throw.

817
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 7: It his way, Thank you very much, Kenny. Here we go.

818
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to get out there.

819
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 7: John, when do you.

820
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 6: I'll be out there for August eleventh or twelfth, So

821
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 6: I'll see you after the Wiman fight in advance of

822
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 6: Morob and John Dodson. So I'll take my COVID nineteen

823
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 6: tests and I'll come give you a hug like fourteen

824
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 6: hours later.

825
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 7: Okay yo, if I love it? All right, guys, good job.

826
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 8: Please next week, somebody Cody give me a text messages?

827
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 6: Hey, come on, see this isn't fair, right, I mean

828
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 6: this is the one time right. Yes, I'm adjusting to

829
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 6: the new primetime slot. I didn't text you today, my

830
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 6: man or executive producer Cody Merrow picking up my slack

831
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 6: as usual. But let's not act like this is a

832
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 6: habitual thing where you're waiting on a fucking call.

833
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: I text you every God damn listen.

834
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 7: First off, you're way better this week.

835
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Speaker 3: You've already all the energy's back.

836
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, last week it was like, wow, what happened to that?

837
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Speaker 3: Well? Thank you guys.

838
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Speaker 7: Listen, I'll see you next week.

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Speaker 6: Chloria all right now with us on the guest line

897
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Speaker 6: as promised, great friend of mine, road Warrior with me

898
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 6: on this UFC circus trip that we are all on board.

899
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 6: I had a huge asset to mixed martial arts in general.

900
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 6: UFC reporter analyst and Victor FC commentator, former pro fighter.

901
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 6: I think she's a farmer too. Laura Sanko is with us.

902
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 6: It's good to see Laura.

903
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 11: What an intro man. That's a lot to live up to.

904
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 6: So so how's it going out there? How was like

905
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 6: the re entry for you after a fight Island? I

906
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 6: mean it was a lot to sort of take in,

907
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 6: and then getting thrust back into normal life for me

908
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 6: was a little bit of a shocker.

909
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 11: Wordsmith is always the re entry is kind of the

910
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 11: perfect word.

911
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 9: I felt like I'd been on another planet and I

912
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 9: was hurtling toward my normal residence in a.

913
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 11: Ball of fire.

914
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 7: Right.

915
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: It was weird.

916
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 9: I mean, my sleep wasn't right for a solid I

917
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 9: want to say four days, and then I would say

918
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 9: another there are two days after that until I could

919
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 9: exercise without feeling like just a total loser, you.

920
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 6: Know, right, No, I'm still trying to get sort of

921
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 6: the cardio back to any semblance of satisfaction. But yeah,

922
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 6: I mean it was a crazy trip. I mean, what

923
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 6: was your biggest takeaway? So you're there for the first

924
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 6: two shows obviously cater and E Gay and UFC two

925
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 6: fifty one, So I mean for me, I think of

926
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 6: hazmat suits like in my room, right Like, that's I

927
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 6: guess my biggest takeaway. But in terms of everything that

928
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 6: that Abu Dhabi experience was for you, what did you

929
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 6: take away from it?

930
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 9: My biggest takeaway was everywhere I looked, I just couldn't

931
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 9: help but think how much manpower it has taken to

932
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 9: make these shows happen. I mean, the number of people,

933
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 9: the number of hours.

934
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 11: Involved in it.

935
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 9: I mean, absolutely cool to think about all that, And

936
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 9: yeah I did. I felt like when we stepped off

937
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 9: the bus, I felt like I was Renee Russo and outbreak.

938
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: I'm telling you weird.

939
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I was like keeping my phone away but

940
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 6: wanting so badly to just like film this.

941
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 11: I let you go first, I let you go. You

942
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 11: get strayed down there, you.

943
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, thank you for that, no problem.

944
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 4: You know, when I was fighting, we definitely didn't travel

945
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 4: as much, or I feel like we didn't travel as

946
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 4: much as as you guys do now. And talking to

947
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 4: the fighters, what really was the biggest challenge for them

948
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 4: adapting to the flight, the time change, and all the

949
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 4: other stuff they had to go through.

950
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 9: I don't think the fighters were being very open necessarily

951
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 9: about how challenging the sleep and the heat.

952
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 11: Those are the two things to me. The heat maybe

953
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 11: less so because this.

954
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 9: Time they had the arena really well air conditioned, so

955
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 9: it was just a factor of like every time you

956
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 9: step outside, you were slapped in the face with this

957
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 9: sweaty mitt of you know, condom is awful humidity like

958
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 9: I've never understood before. In my mind, we were going

959
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 9: to the desert, right, and I thought it was gonna.

960
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 11: Be like vague.

961
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 9: It is nothing like Vegas, nothing like it. But the

962
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 9: sleep was so so tricky because of when we were

963
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 9: doing the shows, And I think I originally went in

964
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 9: with this really well formulated plan. I had my melotone

965
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 9: and ready, I had all the things I thought I

966
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 9: was going to do to keep myself on track there,

967
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 9: to stay on us time, so that I'd feel bright

968
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 9: eyed and bushy tailed when we're doing these broadcasts and

969
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 9: your circadian rhythms are just like f that, you know,

970
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 9: we're here and we're going to adapt to here.

971
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 11: So I kept getting caught, and I think a lot.

972
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 9: Of people got caught somewhere in the middle where you

973
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 9: weren't quite on Abu Dhabi time, you weren't back.

974
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 11: In the US. It was just that was rough, really

975
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 11: really rough.

976
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 6: So I'm sitting there this Saturday night and I'm not working,

977
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 6: and it's fifteen fights for the first time since UFC two,

978
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 6: and it just gives me anxiety to think about properly

979
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 6: preparing for thirty fighters, right, Like, I know you didn't

980
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 6: work the show.

981
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 3: I mean, right, where do you begin?

982
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 11: I don't know.

983
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 9: I uh man, was it the first one where we

984
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 9: had kind of a short card or was that back

985
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 9: at the Apex?

986
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 6: Oh, my memory is completely fucking shot. I don't remember.

987
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, we've talked about this.

988
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 9: One UFC card recently, where like I want to say,

989
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 9: we were down to eleven and those go by so fast.

990
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, those are conditions between.

991
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 11: Eleven and fifteen is massive.

992
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the most I've done is fourteen, which

993
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 6: is twenty eight fighters. See I always think about it,

994
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 6: not so much in terms of formulaics and show formatics,

995
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 6: but fighters, right, It's like twenty eight fucking fighter cards

996
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 6: is a lot. But power to the broadcast team and

997
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 6: the whole live production team, obviously of which we are

998
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 6: a part. So like, I watched about five of the fights.

999
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 6: I mean, obviously you watched Whittaker till and I'm sure

1000
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 6: you saw a lot.

1001
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: Of this main card.

1002
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 6: Anything for us on Whittaker till and what maybe you

1003
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 6: saw on either side, you.

1004
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 9: Know, I think the biggest takeaway from Kurtilla is that

1005
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 9: I think till Stock really went up, which is a

1006
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 9: little bit unusual in a loss.

1007
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 11: It was a super close fight. It's it's always interesting.

1008
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 9: I like to go on Twitter and social media afterwards

1009
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 9: to kind of get the pulse of the fans, and

1010
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 9: I felt like a lot of people were I don't

1011
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 9: know if disappointed maybe is too strong of a word,

1012
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 9: but kind of a little bit let down. They had

1013
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 9: these really high expectations. But I challenged anyone to, you know,

1014
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 9: go to your like local high school track, get in

1015
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 9: some starting blocks and have someone with a gun a

1016
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 9: starter gun, standing right there for twenty five minutes.

1017
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 11: And just start and then go back and the start

1018
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 11: and then go back.

1019
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 9: The type of fight where you are continuously on a

1020
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 9: razor's edge, fainting, looking for your shots, you know, as

1021
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 9: a chess match, as they put it.

1022
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 11: I think it's the perfect way to describe.

1023
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 9: It is it's exhausting. I mean when when Israel at

1024
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 9: Asnia thought, uh, this is my problem with with Joel

1025
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 9: ra Merrell.

1026
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Meryl.

1027
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 9: The last time his post by interview I did with him,

1028
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 9: he said the same thing, like that, that type of fight,

1029
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 9: while it's not what the fans necessarily are like dying

1030
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 9: for just bleed, you know, Uh, it's such a hard

1031
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 9: fight and if you're a striker and you can really

1032
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 9: appreciate a lot of the nuances that were going there.

1033
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 9: I thought it was a great fight. I enjoyed watching it.

1034
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 9: It was super close. I don't I didn't feel strongly

1035
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 9: one way or the other honestly when it went to

1036
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 9: the judges. But I wasn't surprised when Whittaker got it.

1037
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 9: I'm happy for him, glad to see him back in

1038
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 9: the wind calm, because I wanted to, like I was

1039
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 9: a little worried, to be honest, that if he had

1040
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 9: lost that maybe he would retire. I don't know why,

1041
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 9: just the coming off of needing time and all that.

1042
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 9: And then on the flip side, Till is such a

1043
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 9: factor at middleweight now he's he proved that he's literally,

1044
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 9: you know, a razor thin margin away from Whittaker, So

1045
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 9: he's right there, and.

1046
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 6: I think you're right on Whittaker right just to remove

1047
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 6: any doubt that he can still be a champion with

1048
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 6: that type of twenty five minute effort Ken flow. Much

1049
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 6: has been made of this whole mental taxation. Do you

1050
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 6: remember like your most mentally taxing win, Like I'd imagine

1051
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 6: the Diego noon Az win getting through fifteen minutes at

1052
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 6: one hundred and forty five pounds for the first time

1053
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 6: wasn't particularly easy, even though the fight for thirteen and

1054
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 6: a half minutes really was. I mean, do you remember

1055
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 6: fighting win or lose that was really like a mental

1056
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 6: grind more than others.

1057
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think probably the BJ Penn fight

1058
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 4: is the one that kind of stands out the most.

1059
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 4: You know, I think when you're looking at the lower

1060
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 4: the skill level of the combatants, the more aggression and

1061
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 4: action you're going to get. I think that the higher

1062
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 4: the level of the combatants, I think the more technical

1063
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 4: fight you're going to get. That's just the way it

1064
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 4: goes typically, And if you do have one guy who

1065
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 4: doesn't abide by those rules, they'll probably be be sleeping

1066
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 4: very quickly in that fight. That's just kind of the

1067
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 4: nature of combat. You have to be smart when you're

1068
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 4: fighting the best guys. And I also think to go

1069
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 4: back to Darren Till, you know, there's no shame and

1070
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 4: illusion to someone like what as we said, I do

1071
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 4: agree with you Lord that his stock went up, But

1072
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 4: I do think for a lot of fighters, a lot

1073
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 4: of managers, and a lot of these teams, they kind

1074
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: of speed things up a little bit. They get these

1075
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 4: opportunities and they just take them right away, which is great.

1076
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 4: But I would wonder about how that fight would have

1077
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 4: gone if Till had another two or three fights more

1078
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 4: of experience. And I think experience really was one of

1079
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: the determining factors of why Whitaker won that fight.

1080
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 9: Just to add to that too, I don't know that

1081
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 9: I really appreciated Till's counter striking abilities, you know, I

1082
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 9: thought of them more of as a pressure forward guy

1083
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 9: and obviously amazing striking, but that fight really made me

1084
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 9: appreciate his counter striking ability, which in turn makes me

1085
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 9: more interested in and I'm not saying right away to

1086
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 9: your point, Kenny, but it does make me more interested

1087
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 9: down the line for an out Asnia fight at some

1088
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 9: point because that there would be no you'd imagine there'd

1089
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 9: be not a lot of takedowns in that fight, and

1090
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 9: you just could sit back and watch a really amazing,

1091
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 9: you know, display of striking.

1092
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 6: Laura Sanko with us here on the Anakin Florian podcast.

1093
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 6: So I talked about the fifteen fight anxiety. I think

1094
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Speaker 6: if I looked at your summer schedule, maybe I'd have

1095
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 6: a little bit of anxiety. Dana White's Contender series, I

1096
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 6: believe begins next Tuesday, August fourth, and all the UFC

1097
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 6: assignments and Victa FC mixed in. So I wish you

1098
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 6: all the best with that. It sound like you have kids.

1099
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 6: Oh wait, you have a child as well also.

1100
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 11: And a puppy.

1101
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 12: A puppy.

1102
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 11: I'm freaking potty treating right now.

1103
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: Oh no, came back to a puppy.

1104
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 6: So so, Dana Whit's Contender series is a labor of love.

1105
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 6: I mean we've talked about this off the air. A

1106
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 6: lot is asked of you in that role, your one

1107
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 6: part ring announcer, in addition to all of your repertorial duties.

1108
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 3: And everything else. But certainly a nice platform.

1109
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 6: And I know you've you've sort of maximized the showcase,

1110
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 6: if you will.

1111
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 11: Yeah, I love that show. It's it's truly it's it

1112
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 11: feels really cool to be holding that espn Mic. I'm

1113
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 11: not gonna lie.

1114
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 9: I just you know, brush my shoulder a little second

1115
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 9: every time that happens. But uh, but if you were

1116
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 9: asked me, if I had to give up everything else,

1117
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 9: I would keep Contender above it all, just because every

1118
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 9: fight there is so packed with emotion for those men

1119
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 9: and women and so important, and you get a lot

1120
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 9: of action packed fights just because of the stakes and

1121
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 9: because Dana White sitting you know, feet away, and everything

1122
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 9: that they've done to put that show together. I absolutely love.

1123
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 9: And it's only five fights, John, I'm.

1124
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 3: Telling you, can I just take it away? Just one?

1125
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 3: Can I just be assigned to one of those? All right?

1126
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 6: I got a few more with you, and then I'm

1127
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 6: some some rapid fire questions, time permitting on the way out,

1128
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 6: So I mentioned the different hats you wear obviously reporter, host, analyst.

1129
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 6: I guess the question would be in terms of, like

1130
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 6: your professional fulfillment, because you do have professional fighting experience.

1131
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 6: Want to know you left that career when you became pregnant.

1132
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 6: What do you want to be doing Like It seems

1133
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 6: to me like you burst open when you're talking about

1134
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 6: fights analytically more so than anything else.

1135
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that is that's one hundred percent where

1136
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 9: I love to be. My dream is to one day,

1137
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 9: you know, be able to maybe call fight along alongside

1138
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 9: you John.

1139
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 11: That'd be incredible. I don't you know.

1140
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 9: And it's certainly not that I think I'm more qualified

1141
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 9: or better qualified than any of the analysts that we

1142
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 9: currently have. I love all those guys, and I have

1143
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 9: the utmost respect for them. I do think that there's

1144
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 9: I'm not I'm not like a diet in the Wolf Feminist.

1145
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 11: You probably spend enough time around me to know that.

1146
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,240
Speaker 9: But I do think I think that there's a place

1147
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 9: at times for a different for a female perspective in

1148
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 9: a sport where you know, women are not the majority

1149
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 9: of the fighters, but there are cards where there's four

1150
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 9: sometimes you know fights, uh, female fights, and I think

1151
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 9: that I think that there's a perspective that a female

1152
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 9: fighter brings.

1153
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 11: That's just it's a little different.

1154
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 9: Women's mma in a large part is a different sport

1155
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 9: coming into the sport, the stuff that goes on behind

1156
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 9: the scenes, let alone some of the you know, the

1157
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 9: technique that you see in application there, but beyond that, Yeah,

1158
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 9: it's just it's what I want to do, whether it's

1159
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 9: you know, talking about men's fights or women's fights.

1160
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 11: I appreciate you saying that because I do.

1161
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 9: I feel like I come alive when I'm able to

1162
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 9: talk x'es and o's and really dissect.

1163
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 11: What has happened, is happening, could happen all that stuff.

1164
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 9: And those guys, you know, Paul and Dom and Mike

1165
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 9: all know that I know my shit. So yeah, I

1166
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 9: hope that I hope that one day that that could happen.

1167
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know, I believe in you wholeheartedly and

1168
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 6: your goddamn funny too. All Right, rapid fire questions or

1169
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 6: sank all the way out, because I know she's got

1170
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 6: a lot of shit to do, all right. Tuesday, August fourth,

1171
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 6: ESPN Plus Dana White's Contender series. I took out the

1172
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 6: Tuesday over under one and a half contracts handed out

1173
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 6: on episode one over for sure, I should have said

1174
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 6: it higher, all right, all right, So we mentioned want

1175
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 6: to know as a pro fighter factor fiction, if the

1176
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 6: UFC launched a one hundred and five pound you knew

1177
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 6: this was coming, Adam, wait, division, would you take a fight,

1178
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 6: one singular fight?

1179
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 9: If offered, Yes, absolutely at one hundred and five one fight.

1180
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 11: I'm in.

1181
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 9: I'm in.

1182
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 6: See she hits hard, mentally tough, competitive plus athlete, loves

1183
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 6: to grapple.

1184
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 3: All right, step a versus d C.

1185
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 6: I'm not going to ask you to make a prediction,

1186
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 6: but the trilogy less than three weeks away. It's a

1187
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 6: pick him right now according to Las Vegas. So essentially

1188
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 6: you're getting the same price on either guy. Do you

1189
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 6: have any lean as to what happens on August fifteenth?

1190
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 6: Am I allowed to ask you that?

1191
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1192
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 11: You are? You are? I think that DC is going

1193
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 11: to be It has been.

1194
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 9: Very circumspect about the last fight. I think that he

1195
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 9: was circumspect right after it happened. I mean he fell

1196
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 9: in love with his hands a little bit and kind

1197
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 9: of went away from the wrestling Andriz really looking for.

1198
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 11: That knockout, and I don't.

1199
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 9: Think he's going to make that same as He's not

1200
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 9: going to make the same mistake twice. So I think

1201
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 9: I see DC looking to wrestle a lot more. I

1202
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 9: think that Stepe is going to bring what Stepe always does,

1203
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 9: that incredible boxing, and it's going to be a fantastic fight.

1204
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 6: And I'm not picking a winner, all right, well, I

1205
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 6: this one, it might be even harder than so factor fiction.

1206
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 6: Your teammate right now with the best chance to make

1207
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 6: a run at a UFC title is Grant Das ooh fact.

1208
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 11: Fact only because it's just not that important to.

1209
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 3: James, right.

1210
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 11: I think James has all the skills to do it.

1211
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 11: He could He could be if he gave a shit

1212
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 11: about fighting regularly.

1213
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 9: And he literally he cares way more about coaching now

1214
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 9: than he does about his own fight career, so he's

1215
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 9: much pickier about when he fights.

1216
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 11: If he was onto having.

1217
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 9: Three fights a year, he'd be top ten, top five

1218
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 9: at a heartbeat. But Grant is at that stage in

1219
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 9: his career where he's just busting down walls, so talented

1220
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 9: and you see growth in him every single fight.

1221
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 11: He's amazing.

1222
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 6: He really is incredible. All in Dawson, Yeah, all right,

1223
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 6: last thing, are you are? You're a Kansas City Chiefs

1224
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 6: fan in some part?

1225
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: Are you not?

1226
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 11: Yes?

1227
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 3: So good.

1228
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 6: I like the conviction with which you answered that, because

1229
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 6: I feel good for the fan base, you know. I

1230
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 6: think as you get a little bit older and your

1231
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 6: teams win some titles, you feel good for other people

1232
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 6: getting a little taste. I remember saying as much to

1233
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 6: James Krause. But all right, that's all.

1234
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 9: John, Hey, that was such a pity, like, oh, I'm

1235
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 9: just I'm so used to winning. I'm so glad that

1236
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 9: you too could taste top it's like to have a

1237
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 9: Super Bowl.

1238
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: I did not.

1239
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 6: That was not at all the intention of that. I mean,

1240
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 6: you see, I'm prepared. That was not at all the

1241
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 6: intent of that that question. But hey, hey, I mean,

1242
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 6: you guys have a good chance to start piling them up.

1243
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 6: So she is to Kansas City native. She is Laura Sanko.

1244
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 6: You'll see her on The Contender series August for fourth

1245
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 6: on ESPN Plus. When's your next UFC assignment? Are you

1246
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 6: there this weekend or no?

1247
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 9: I was supposed to be there this weekend, but I

1248
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 9: begged off of it because I've got too much stuff

1249
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 9: going on at home, so they moved me to Anthony

1250
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 9: Smith's card at the end of the month, so I'll

1251
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 9: be doing that one backstage for ESPN.

1252
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, there she is Laura Sanko. Hey, appreciate

1253
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 6: you and your support of not just this podcast, but

1254
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 6: me and everybody else.

1255
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 3: And we thank you. We wish you all the best.

1256
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:28,959
Speaker 11: Thanks John, Thanks Kenny, Bye guys.

1257
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 10: Thanks March.

1258
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 3: We'll see as soon.

1259
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 6: There she is, Laura Sanko with us here on the

1260
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 6: Enik and Florian podcast. I've been trying to tell her

1261
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 6: take that fight at one hundred and five pounds, you know,

1262
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 6: take one UFC fight. I think her stock would sore,

1263
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 6: especially if she.

1264
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: Can win it.

1265
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,480
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1266
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,439
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1272
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1273
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1274
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,080
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1275
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 6: some picks.

1276
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: It's the main event challenge.

1277
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 10: The time is most definitely Flori, Hi face, fine, how

1278
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 10: do you everything possible to win?

1279
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 2: It's the main event challenge with John Hannick and Kenny

1280
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: Florian podcast.

1281
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 6: All right, So the lead was eighty five seventy nine

1282
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 6: for team and going into UFC fight had Whitaker versus

1283
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 6: till It was a huge week for Team Florian, finally

1284
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 6: getting some of these rounds and methods of victory correct

1285
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 6: nine to five.

1286
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 3: So we had Carl.

1287
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 6: Asparza as an underdog both Showgun and Robert Whittaker by decision.

1288
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 6: Team Florian wins the week nine to five. It's now

1289
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 6: a two point main event challenge ninety.

1290
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: To eighty eight.

1291
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 6: As we welcome on the duck Ian Parker Ian, I

1292
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 6: don't know if you have an issue with the score

1293
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 6: or do I have that right?

1294
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 3: You look perturbed.

1295
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 10: Well, I also have Whittaker by decision, I thought the

1296
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 10: only so his The difference was Rodriguez and Showgun's decision.

1297
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 12: That was the difference.

1298
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 6: You did get three points. Three of your five points

1299
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 6: came on that Whittaker fight.

1300
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 3: So it is what it is.

1301
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 10: It's no you know what, I would love it if

1302
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 10: Kenny one week beat me by like a knockout, not

1303
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 10: by like a fucking split decision.

1304
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 12: That I didn't even think it. I don't even want

1305
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 12: to fucking hear it. I didn't want to hear it.

1306
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 6: Hey, you have really capitalized with a lot of decision.

1307
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 3: Winners this year, So I mean, let let the record show.

1308
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 12: Yeah, no, no, I know.

1309
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 10: I just thought Rodriguez won that fight. I was very

1310
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 10: disappointed that was the one. I was disappointed because that

1311
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 10: was an underdog for him. It's all right, work, We're good.

1312
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 7: All right.

1313
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 6: So we got UFC fights essentially every weekend the rest

1314
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 6: of the year. There might be one dark weekend there,

1315
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 6: but I haven't seen it on my schedule. Let's get

1316
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 6: to it, boys, UFC Fight Night Shabazian versus Brunson, and

1317
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 6: we will begin with Kevin Holland minus two thirty versus

1318
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 6: Trevin Giles plus one ninety. Kevin Holland, this is a

1319
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 6: promoter's dreamy and is he not right? Exciting fighter, always

1320
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 6: ready to Go had a TKO win May sixteenth, then

1321
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 6: signed again to fight on May thirtieth, but was forced

1322
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 6: out due to a shoulder injury. And now here he's

1323
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 6: stepping up less than two weeks notice, steps in for

1324
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 6: park John Young against Trevin Giles. He got past James

1325
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 6: Krouse back in February. Ian Parker Holland or Giles to

1326
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 6: kick us off?

1327
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 3: Who do you like?

1328
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 10: I think Kevin Holland pulling out of this fight and

1329
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 10: getting this one was probably the best thing that he

1330
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 10: could have done.

1331
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 12: Not that it was on purpose. Yeah. I like Kevin

1332
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 12: Holland a lot here.

1333
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 10: Trevin Giles has not really hit that I want to

1334
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 10: say level that we all thought he was going to

1335
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 10: get to when we first saw him as a prospect.

1336
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 12: Cardio is not that good.

1337
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 10: I mean, I thought, actually Kraus won that fight. So

1338
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 10: I really like Kevin Holland here. I think he's going

1339
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 10: to be too much as long as he doesn't get

1340
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 10: taken down.

1341
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 12: Even if he does, Giles doesn't offer a.

1342
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 10: Ton on top. We saw that against Whinny fought Gerald.

1343
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 10: I like Kevin Holland here a lot. I'm surprised it's

1344
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 10: only minus two thirty to be honest ken flow.

1345
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 6: Trevin Giles is I and fought James Krause pretty closely

1346
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 6: earlier this year, and if you look at it from

1347
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 6: the Giles standpoint, right, he also had to adjust to

1348
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 6: James Krause, not at all an ideal matchup. Even though

1349
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 6: Giles has some grappling credentials. He had the whole Houston

1350
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 6: Police Department in the building, right, so there was a

1351
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 6: lot of pressure on him, and I thought, all things considered,

1352
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 6: he performed well.

1353
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 3: But he's a pretty big underdog here against Kevin Hall.

1354
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 3: In your thoughts he.

1355
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 4: Did, you know, I think he's probably a pretty big

1356
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 4: underdog because Kevin Holland, no disrespect, kind of does everything better.

1357
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 3: You know. I think he's the better striker. I think

1358
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 3: he's the better grappler.

1359
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 4: I think he's got the better chance of getting a

1360
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 4: finish and listen, I think it's Kevin Holland's fight to lose,

1361
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 4: all right.

1362
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 6: Next up, we have a rematch Landovernada and Bobby Green.

1363
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 6: This one sees groovy Lando the minus one thirty favorite

1364
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 6: Bobby King Green comes back plus one ten. So they

1365
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 6: fought once before split draw in Vegas UFC two sixteen.

1366
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 6: That was October of twenty seventeen. That was the fight

1367
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 6: of the night. Ian, I don't know if you went

1368
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 6: back and watched it, probably did. That was close to

1369
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 6: this one as well. Green or Lando.

1370
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 7: For you.

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01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 12: Who, this is a very very interesting matchup. Love uh,

1372
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 12: I love Landovanada in general.

1373
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 10: I thought when he fought Tony Ferguson, you know, that

1374
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 10: was super impressive. I just don't it's just the consistency

1375
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 10: with his career obviously has been a lot of up

1376
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 10: and down.

1377
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 12: Don't worry, I'm a rock star. The show bust go on, and.

1378
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,439
Speaker 10: I really do feel that this is a good name

1379
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 10: for Lando to fight right now.

1380
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 12: I'm surprised Bobby Green's actually taking the fight like this

1381
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 12: on such short notice.

1382
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 10: I think if this fight stays on the feed, I

1383
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 10: think Lando just has too many unpredictable striking abilities that

1384
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 10: may throw Bobby off a little bit.

1385
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 6: So all right, so Ian sort of mentioned the quick

1386
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 6: turn for Bobby Green just fought Clake we to beat

1387
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 6: him last month, trying to make a couple more paychecks here,

1388
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 6: kem Fla, what do you think about the rematch between

1389
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 6: Landovanada and Bobby Green?

1390
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 3: You know, this is a tough one.

1391
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 4: Man, I feel like utilizes more skills on the feet,

1392
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 4: he has more weapons, he kicks way more, mixes things

1393
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 4: up more. But Bobby Green is just very mentally tough.

1394
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 4: He's a guy who's always gonna be there to the

1395
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 4: very end. Vanada tends to start hot. Green can can

1396
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 4: finish pretty pretty strong as well. Man, this is tough.

1397
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 4: I'll go with I'm gonna go with Bobby Green in

1398
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 4: this one. I think he gets it done. I think

1399
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 4: Vanada has been in a whole lot of wars Green

1400
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 4: has as well, but.

1401
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 3: Let's lean with Green for this one. Lame with Green.

1402
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 3: I like that.

1403
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 6: It's so hard too. It's like the betting line comes

1404
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 6: out six hours later. You guys are forced to make

1405
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 6: a pick here on a Monday, you always reserve the

1406
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 6: right to change it. Moving on down the main card,

1407
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 6: Vicente Luke the minus won seventy five favorite here putting

1408
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 6: his number twelve ranking on the line against Randy Rudeboy Brown,

1409
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 6: who is plus one fifty five. So my research tells

1410
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 6: me this matchup was actually supposed to happen on April eleventh,

1411
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 6: that has now been rebooked. Now divisionally, Kenny, I think

1412
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 6: you really need fighters like Luka who are divisionally relevant ranked,

1413
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 6: but also willing to stay active and give an opportunity

1414
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 6: to a guy like Randy Brown, who ian in my mind,

1415
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 6: is worthy of this opportunity.

1416
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 3: He's won two straight fights.

1417
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 6: Big showcase spot for Brown as he tries to take

1418
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 6: Luk's ranking.

1419
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 3: How do you see a plan out?

1420
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 10: Ah, who is Luk's manager here? I think this is

1421
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 10: a very odd choice of a fight for him. To

1422
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 10: your point, it's great to have guys like this, but

1423
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 10: to someone like Luke who in his career he's taken

1424
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 10: some losses. You know, it's been a couple of it's

1425
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 10: been a lot of wars too. And I think Brown

1426
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 10: is a very dangerous guy athleticism wise, power wise, you know,

1427
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 10: after the Nico Price fight, I think he learned his

1428
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 10: lesson and really has tightened up his.

1429
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 12: Game that fight.

1430
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 10: IQ keeps getting better and I kind of like him

1431
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 10: here as the underdog. You know. I think the style here,

1432
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 10: it's one thing if Luke took fights to the ground,

1433
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 10: you know, but he really doesn't. He never takes advantage

1434
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 10: of that jiu jitsu. So I think this fight's going

1435
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 10: to stand on the feet, and I think that Brown

1436
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 10: has the powered everything to get it done.

1437
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 12: So I'm gonna go with Randy Brown here.

1438
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 3: I like it all right.

1439
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 6: On the other side, can flow Luka seven of eight

1440
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 6: that includes a violent TKO of Nico Price back on

1441
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 6: May ninth.

1442
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 3: What do you think about this matchup for Luk?

1443
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 4: I think Ian made some great points and I do

1444
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 4: see why Randy Brown was picked. But I think Luk's

1445
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 4: experience is going to shine through. I think Luk will

1446
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 4: find a way to pull it off. I'm not sure

1447
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 4: he gets the finish. He may get the finish, but

1448
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 4: I could see Luk winning by another close decision. I

1449
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,439
Speaker 4: think that's going to be a back and forth war.

1450
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 4: But I think Luka's just got a little too many

1451
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 4: weapons on the feet, too much experience, all right.

1452
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 3: That brings us to the comain event.

1453
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 6: This is an eliminator in the women's flyweight division, and

1454
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 6: you want to talk about risk reward. We mentioned Luk,

1455
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 6: So you got Joanne Calderwood. She had a title fight

1456
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 6: against Valentina Shevchenko June sixth. Valentina gets injured, fight gets postponed,

1457
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 6: but Jojo puts her title shotty in on the line. Essentially,

1458
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 6: here she takes on Jennifer Maya. It's called her Wood

1459
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 6: minus one ninety Maya plus one sixty five. This is

1460
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 6: the co main event. As such, we will need the

1461
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 6: round the method of victory Ian Parker, who do you like?

1462
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, listen, if I'm Jojo called it.

1463
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 10: When I win this fight, I'm getting that title shot,

1464
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 10: and I'm asking for more money because this is a

1465
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 10: really stupid risk against someone that have to fight goes

1466
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 10: to the ground. Jennifer can do some damage here. I

1467
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 10: just think that Jojo on the feed is way better.

1468
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 10: I think she's also way smart. I think she also

1469
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 10: knows how to win rounds. You know, you see her

1470
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 10: always at the end, finishing strong.

1471
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 12: She throws a good amount of volume in those leg kicks.

1472
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 10: Jennifer Maiah poses some problems though she moves forward a

1473
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 10: lot of pressure. She throws a lot, and that could

1474
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 10: be a problem. I just think that Jojo may be

1475
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 10: a little bit smarter here, not in regards to taking

1476
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 10: this fight.

1477
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 12: I know she's anty and wants to get in.

1478
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 10: There, but ah man, what a weird career decision. I'm

1479
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 10: still gonna take her by decision. I don't see anyone

1480
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 10: getting the finish year, so That's where I'm gonna go

1481
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 10: with here. I'm gonna go with Jojo Caldwood by.

1482
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 3: Decision can Flow, Jojo Maya co main event. Who do

1483
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 3: you like? You know? I think Maya is a good athlete.

1484
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 4: I think she has decent fundamentals on the feet, doesn't

1485
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 4: really pose a threat as far as you know, getting

1486
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 4: many knockdowns or knockouts necessarily. But I do agree with

1487
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 4: Ian that she could post some problems for Jojo on

1488
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 4: the ground. I don't think she's going to be able

1489
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 4: to do that for too long. However, might be able

1490
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 4: to steal around, but I like Jojo as well. I

1491
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 4: think her length or ability to you know, utilize her

1492
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 4: long range weapons will be the difference. I see Jojo

1493
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 4: keeping her away with kicks, moving lotterally to avoid the

1494
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 4: fence and getting taken down.

1495
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 3: I like Jojo by decision as well.

1496
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 6: All Right, couple picks there on Jojo calderwould by decision,

1497
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 6: And now we get to the main event, which features

1498
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 6: a guy and I hope can Flow gives me shit

1499
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 6: if he doesn't agree with this. But in Edmund Shabazian,

1500
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 6: who right now on July twenty seven, twenty twenty could

1501
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 6: just be the best mid ofweight in the world at

1502
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 6: twenty two years of age.

1503
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 3: Right, call me crazy. He's eleven to zero is a pro.

1504
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 6: There's only one guy he hasn't just absolutely ruined. I

1505
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 6: think it was Darren Stewart split decision in his UFC debut.

1506
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 6: This is not promotional hyperbole. This is me as a fan.

1507
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 6: Shabazian is the minus three hundred favorite here against another

1508
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 6: guy I like the perennial contender, dB Derek Brunson plus

1509
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 6: two fifty. You know about Brunson's experience has headlined I

1510
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 6: think at least twice before in the UFC Ian Parker,

1511
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 6: Edmund Shabazian, Derek Bronson.

1512
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 3: Who do you like?

1513
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 7: Man?

1514
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 10: You're really putting the pressure on this week, Kenny. He's

1515
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 10: getting it to a winning week and I choose first

1516
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 10: on every single fight.

1517
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 6: That's right, That's right. I thought about it too. I

1518
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 6: thought about it as well. But I want to give

1519
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 6: you that pressure. See you rise above it all.

1520
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 12: We're on the same team, got it.

1521
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 3: Ah.

1522
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 10: So listen, There's a couple other prospects out there that

1523
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 10: people really high on, but I think Edmond Schabazian is

1524
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,439
Speaker 10: the one that really deserves the true. Let's say he's

1525
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Speaker 10: a title contender type of guy at some point in

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Speaker 10: near future. And it's nothing against Derek Brunson and all this,

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01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 10: and Brunson has the wrestling condemned credentials.

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Speaker 12: He's tough, he'th power. But when's the last time we.

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01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 10: Saw a kid like this, so young, so technically sound,

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01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 10: and just doing what you would hope he does and

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01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 10: climbing the ranks at a good pace.

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Speaker 12: As Kenny likes to say, build them slowly, but they're

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Speaker 12: doing and they're doing it the right way.

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Speaker 10: You know. The fight against Tavares was like the perfect

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Speaker 10: time to throw him in against a guy like him.

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Speaker 12: And this is another really good name.

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Speaker 10: Maybe Derek Brunton doesn't get enough credit for the type

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Speaker 10: of fights that he's had. Also, you know, and I listen,

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Speaker 10: it's hard to not pick Edmund Shabazi in here with

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Speaker 10: the momentum. The kid just I don't know where he

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01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 10: has a weakness right now. The only thing I would

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Speaker 10: say is if Brunton puts him on his back, I

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01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 10: would like to see him fight against adversity here and

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01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 10: see what he does. We also have not seen him

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Speaker 10: in a five round fight, you know, let's see how

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01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 10: that Cardio holds up when he's not knocking people out

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01:07:59,520 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 10: left and right.

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Speaker 12: The first or second round.

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Speaker 10: Doesn't mean I don't think he's still gonna do it.

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Speaker 10: I still think he's gonna get it, get it done

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Speaker 10: in probably the second round, and until someone stops that train,

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Speaker 10: I'm all aboard.

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Speaker 12: So I'm going Shabazi in second.

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Speaker 6: Round TKO, second round TKO for Edmund Shabazian, And I

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Speaker 6: say what I say, with all due respect to Israelata

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Speaker 6: Sonya and Paolo Costa, I don't know how those would

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01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 6: go if those guys fought ten times. I just believe

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Speaker 6: Shabazian deserves inclusion in that conversation. On the other side,

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Speaker 6: you have Derek Runson sixteen UFC fights Kenny third UFC

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Speaker 6: main event here. So Brunton made his pro MMA debut

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01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 6: when Shabazian was twelve. He was wrestling in the NCAA's

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01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 6: when Shabazim was seven years old. I just don't think

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01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 6: any of that matters. But Brunson does have a lot

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01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 6: of plus skills. I think he has developed. He has

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Speaker 6: leaned on his wrestling when the matchup has called for it.

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Speaker 6: Of late big power, some signature wins the question Kenny Florian,

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Speaker 6: what does Derek Brunson have as a plus two to

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Speaker 6: fifty underdog for Edmund Shabazi in this weekend?

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm really curious.

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Speaker 4: I think Derek Brunson is the kind of guy who's

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01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 4: most dangerous when you have him as an underdog.

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Speaker 3: He can't surprise you. I think he's a good athlete.

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Speaker 4: He does come in with a lot of experience, can

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01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 4: get overly emotional and while at times definitely can't do

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01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 4: that against Shabazian. And you know, if we're if we're

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Speaker 4: being candid here, I think he also has kind of

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01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 4: been the measuring stick at middleweight right a lot like

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01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 4: Brad Tavares, we find out whether you're a star or

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01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 4: not if you're able to beat a guy like Derek Brunson.

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Speaker 4: So unfortunately, he's kind of in that spot. And I

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01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 4: don't think Derek Brunson likes being in that spot. And

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01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 4: he would love to spoil another party in Shabazian.

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Speaker 3: Is he able to do that? I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: You know, you were talking about Shabazian and whether he's,

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Speaker 4: you know, the best middleweight in the world.

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Speaker 3: Is he the best middleweight in the world at this point.

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01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit early.

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Speaker 4: Is he the most exciting middleweight in the world. I

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01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 4: would say that'd be more accurate. I think he is

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Speaker 4: unbelievable when it comes to getting after it and finishing

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01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 4: the fight. He's got eleven fight it's what ten finishes,

1592
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 4: nine knockouts something ridiculous, So he certainly is something special.

1593
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Speaker 4: I'm really curious to see how he comes out against

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Speaker 4: Derek Brunson. I believe he'll most likely get an early knockout.

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Speaker 4: I think round one knockout for Shabazian, and you know,

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Speaker 4: I still think we need to see him against higher

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01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 4: level competition. But Shabazian might very well be the real deal.

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Speaker 4: And he beats a guy like Brunton and he makes

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01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 4: a little easy it's a big statement.

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 6: He has only seen a second round as a pro

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01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 6: and mm A one time, so if Brunson can extend him,

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01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 6: and obviously DB's got a lot of power as well,

1604
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 6: and really is a guy who I love, and I've

1605
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 6: watched and called most of Brunson's career. But this Shabazian

1606
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 6: just just jumps out of the arena. We'll see how

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Speaker 6: it goes for Shabazian and Brunson in the main event,

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Speaker 6: we'll preview Olyndic and the blackbas Derek Lewis. Until then,

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Speaker 5: Later, the San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal

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Speaker 5: corruption probe.

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Speaker 13: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 13: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 13: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 13: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 11: I did it because I was foolish.

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