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Speaker 1: Welcome and beam Minidos to this very special episode. Michael

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Speaker 1: Tuda conversations, our voices, our stories, our experiences. I'm your

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Speaker 1: host Wilmer about drama and I had the pleasure of

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Speaker 1: being joined by my friends Adam Luiggins, Stephanie Patrice, and

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Speaker 1: Jennica Lopez for a heartfelt conversation on latiniad.

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Speaker 2: Listen as we shine.

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Speaker 1: A light on our culture, our upbringing, language, and what

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Speaker 1: we're hoping to build for the next generation of Latino creators.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited we get to have a space to

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Speaker 1: recruit on culture, heritage, and you know the purpose of

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Speaker 1: this is to ultimately, you know, reach down into our

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Speaker 1: heart and just you know, really remember it and think

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Speaker 1: and trigger these emotions that kind of make our culture

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Speaker 1: so colorful. And on Hispanic Heritage Month, we thought it

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Speaker 1: was kind of excited to get us all here together,

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Speaker 1: enjoy some delicious Latin of food and talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about our beginnings. You know, when our culture they

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Speaker 1: find who we were, and when our culture told us

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Speaker 1: that we could do anything. You know, basically, you know,

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Speaker 1: we were always talking about this, when we've talked about

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Speaker 1: this before, that that's been the superpowered We'll always find

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Speaker 1: a way to get there, you know, so I wanted

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Speaker 1: to start. I'll start with the ladies, you know, Steph,

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Speaker 1: Maybe tell us a little bit about where you come from,

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Speaker 1: what's your story, you know, and you know, give us

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Speaker 1: the moment when you realize your heritage was was special.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I was an immigrant to the United States.

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Speaker 3: I am an immigrant to the United States that came

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Speaker 3: when I was a little under too. My dad is

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Speaker 3: Columbia and my mom's Bolivian. They moved all around South

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Speaker 3: America when I was a kid, but then they landed

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Speaker 3: in Texas, and I think growing up in Texas was

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Speaker 3: really interesting for me because yes, I was Latina, I

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Speaker 3: am Latina, but also there were so many different kinds

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Speaker 3: of immigrant groups that my mom met in Houston because

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Speaker 3: of her connection to the Catholic Church, and so she

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Speaker 3: kind of created this community for us. And so my

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Speaker 3: sister and I were given the opportunity to see Latinidad,

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Speaker 3: but like through the lens of a lot of our

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Speaker 3: family friends who immigrated from lots of different communities, and

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Speaker 3: like that was really strange and interesting, and so like

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Speaker 3: my upbringing became this kind of mishmash of like selectively

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Speaker 3: picked things that came from you know, like this food

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Speaker 3: from here, this tradition from here, this thing from here.

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Speaker 3: And especially because I grew up in Texas, I feel

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Speaker 3: so connected to Mexican culture, Mexican people, Mexican music, Mexican heritage.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not Mexican, but I love it.

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Speaker 3: So that's really tricky too write this idea that, like

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Speaker 3: you can be Latinal, love parts of it, but also

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Speaker 3: maybe sometimes feel like you don't belong to parts of it.

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Speaker 3: And for me it was really when I was maybe eight,

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Speaker 3: of Freedo Capolo exhibit came through the.

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Speaker 4: Art Museum in Houston, Houston ArtMuseum, and because it was

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Speaker 4: I mean I was eight, I.

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Speaker 1: Probably not should have was looking at it, you know what, because.

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Speaker 4: We've all seen her art it's pretty intense.

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Speaker 3: But it was also this idea that this woman that

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Speaker 3: looked like me, that had tan skin and dark hair

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Speaker 3: and spoke Spanish and you know, became this world renowned artist,

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Speaker 3: so world renowned that her work was traveling now all

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Speaker 5: Here were self portrass of her and she wasn't perfect,

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Speaker 5: and she had a unibrown and she had a When

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Speaker 5: I was a kid, I had scoliosis, and here she

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Speaker 5: was in her back brace from her from her.

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Speaker 3: Accident, and that for me was really the moment, was

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Speaker 3: like wandering around the gallery and looking at these pictures

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Speaker 3: kinds of people, looking how they were affected by what

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Speaker 3: she created from her own pain, from her own literal

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Speaker 3: physical pain and also her like mental journey that she

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Speaker 3: was on. And as a kid, I just remember thinking like, Wow,

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Speaker 3: maybe this is for me. And so that was the

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Speaker 3: beginning of my journey as an artist. First I started, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, drawing pictures at home and stuff, and then

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Speaker 3: and how can I find them? And am I just

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Speaker 3: looking for names? And you know, And at first it

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Speaker 5: But yeah, that's sort of how it started for me.

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Speaker 1: Is a very beautiful and common origin story for all

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Speaker 1: And I think that's also very important, which also speaks

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Speaker 1: you know. Speaking of the Mexican culture, Jenaget, tell us

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Speaker 1: a little bit about you had a quite an interesting

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Speaker 1: at the core, you know you you are a Mexican.

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Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit about when you come

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm born and raised in La Long Beach, specifically

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Speaker 6: where my mom was also raised, raised by a beautiful

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Speaker 6: they came. Was nothing from Mexico. My dad as well,

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Speaker 6: he raised me He's from NIAI and I just feel

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Speaker 6: Like that's all I knew. Even in school, like I

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Speaker 6: it was just growing up. It made me feel so

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Speaker 6: proud because I saw how my grandparents came. My mom

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Speaker 6: worked her whole life to bring us to this position.

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Speaker 6: That we are now. We had, you know, obviously reality

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Speaker 6: life for my siblings and I were a family of five,

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Speaker 6: never easy for her because she was always bullied as well.

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Speaker 6: She had difficulties, and I think that's my main inspiration,

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Speaker 6: like she definitely rose up from nothing, and with me,

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Speaker 6: I saw it in the back end. A lot of

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Speaker 6: Like it's not easy.

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Speaker 4: I had lost.

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Speaker 6: Both my parents super young. I felt like I couldn't

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Speaker 6: certain extent that's totally and work wise, I feel like

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Speaker 6: like it's a sensitive subject. For me, it's like, I

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Speaker 6: So that's where I kind of got that inspiration to

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Speaker 6: just speak for Latinos and help people, at least in

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Speaker 6: and kind of just be that guidance for this, you know,

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's some of that crossroads of being

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Speaker 1: Mexican and American and at the same time, you know,

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Speaker 1: also allowed you to create that skill that we're like

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Speaker 1: you weren't really allowed to talk about vulnerabilities as a Latino,

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Speaker 1: you know, but then you come to America and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I feel like I have a freedom

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Speaker 1: like that was kind of moment. I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: a defining moment for this new generation exactly.

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Speaker 6: And I feel like, at least for myself, like I

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Speaker 6: feel like Latinos and Mexicans specifically are very united in

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Speaker 6: We're part of each other, Like let's help each other.

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Speaker 6: And when it comes to like other groups or Americans,

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Speaker 6: let's let's all be together.

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Speaker 4: Let's all do this together.

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Speaker 6: Like everyone struggles in certain ways and specific ways. Let's

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Speaker 6: all help each other grow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome, Adam.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the hope, right, That's that's what we should

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Speaker 2: be doing. You know. For me my experience, I'm actually

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Speaker 2: my my mother's side, I'm already third generation American in

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Speaker 2: a taste of two very different worlds whure growing up.

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Speaker 2: And it was a beautiful thing because you know, they're

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Speaker 2: to be because the common denominator was love. And then

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Speaker 2: And in my elementary school, I mean there were probably

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Speaker 2: different cultures, big exposure of Jewish culture. A lot of

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Speaker 2: instilled in me a love for people, a love for family,

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Speaker 2: a love for being together, showing affection for music, for

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Speaker 2: beeing loud, and and not holding back about being either

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Speaker 2: let it loose. You know, That's how it was, you know,

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Speaker 2: going to get it off my chest. If I'm happy,

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Speaker 2: you're going to know it. If I'm not, let's get

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Speaker 2: past it. You're going to know it. But let's get

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Speaker 2: part of it all. What I did see, my father

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Speaker 2: was heavily involved in the Puerto Rican community in New York.

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Speaker 2: A lot of organizations. It's one called Somo Sono that

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Speaker 1: You have to you have to do it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know how to speak English, right, so I

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, well, I don't know. I feel like

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Speaker 6: And it felt like kind of embarrassing because I had to.

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Speaker 6: There was one time where my mom showed up to

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Speaker 6: It felt really nice because everybody was so amazed, and

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Speaker 6: don't think it that well, but I'm doing my best

435
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 6: and I'm carrying it on and everything, and that when

436
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 6: you said like, oh, I want to carry it on

437
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 6: to my children is like I hope to do that

438
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 6: as well. Like I feel like it's so important and

439
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 6: I feel like for me, the reason why they spoke

440
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 6: to me just in English was also because in school

441
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 6: you had to be in a specific class. The esl oh, yeah, yes,

442
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 6: okay exactly. So I feel like, in order, let's let's

443
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 6: save you from that class and let's just speak in

444
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 6: English to you, so that way you don't have to

445
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 6: run into that problem exactly. If it's alsome at least here,

446
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 6: it's like, Okay, I get it, but I wish I

447
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 6: was spoken to more in Spanish because I would speak

448
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 6: it better.

449
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 5: It would just look you know.

450
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 4: I would rather know two languages than just one.

451
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 6: So for me, I think, as the years keep going,

452
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 6: I'm just like, this is just what I am. This

453
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 6: is who I am. This is how my mother raised me,

454
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 6: this is how my family. I grew up with my

455
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 6: cousin speaking English, Like I have the culture. I'm just

456
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 6: I'm gonna still carry it on and it.

457
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 2: Doesn't make you any less Mexican, American, or any less

458
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: of whatever.

459
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 6: You know.

460
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 2: The people with that mindset for me, I just don't

461
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 2: have time for it. You're not pushing things forward. If

462
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 2: that's your mindset, You're you're holding things back. Yeah, life

463
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 2: is too short.

464
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: So what was the moment. I'm so curious and I

465
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever asked you this in our friendship.

466
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 1: We know each other our entire careers, you know, and

467
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,199
Speaker 1: I'm so, what was that moment where you were like, oh,

468
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 1: I know, my entire family has never done this.

469
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 2: I think I can do this. I know the moment

470
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 2: that I decided I wanted to be an actor, you know,

471
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 2: when I really knew. I'll tell you what growing up

472
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 2: watching TV. As I'm sure everybody knows, the very limited

473
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 2: number of Latino faces you saw on television. You know,

474
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 2: I remember Chips being a huge show when I was

475
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: a kid, and you had eric Estrada, Fantasy Island, you

476
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 2: have Ricardo Montalban that was on that.

477
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: I think Erica Strada was our like Captain America.

478
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 2: He was at that time, right, you know, we have

479
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 2: he kind of transcended even being Latino at that time.

480
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 2: You know, he was a sex symbol. He was, you know,

481
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 2: look for whatever it was that he was doing. And

482
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 2: I probably don't even know then because I was so little,

483
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: but it was watching.

484
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 3: It was no kiding any crazy baby.

485
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 2: I remember that man in uniform, you know, on a motorcycle.

486
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: You know, he had it going on. So in terms

487
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: of faces that were out there, and then a little

488
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: later east Side, you know, East I Morales. There was

489
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 2: a big influence, you know, in terms of just seeing somebody.

490
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 2: I mean, he was brilliant in that movie especially, you know,

491
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: but I remember him even from Bad Boys with Sean

492
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,479
Speaker 2: Penn in the early eighties. So those were fake, Julia,

493
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 2: of course, you know there there were some, but I mean,

494
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: come on, man, I'm struggling to name five, okay. And

495
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 2: you know, especially Latin men, very few. You know, our

496
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 2: women have been a bit more well represented. You know.

497
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 2: I think that their beauty and their lower in that

498
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: way has been attractive across the board to people. And yeah,

499
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: and and and welcomed to the tickets.

500
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 6: Yeah.

501
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: The nerds weren't even born yet. They didn't exist. Nerds

502
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 2: didn't even exist. They hadn't been conceived, right, I mean,

503
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: completely ignored, completely ignored.

504
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 4: You try to think back of like how was I influenced?

505
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 4: Where did I see it?

506
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 3: And you know what I thought was really interesting was

507
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 3: you saying, like no one else in my family has

508
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: done this, can't wait for the little the barrage of

509
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 3: Latino and Neppo babies. As you know, I mean, I'm

510
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: making a joke but it's.

511
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:25,959
Speaker 2: Like, oh, that's real.

512
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: It's so exciting to think about like what we're all

513
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 3: doing and like and on our peers and how we're

514
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 3: all like moving through different forms of art, different expressions

515
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 3: of art and different in different ways to reach our communities,

516
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 3: people that identify as part of our communities and people

517
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: that don't, and like.

518
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 4: It's really thrilling because there was so little of it.

519
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 4: We were just like stirving, and.

520
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: We need to be represented so we can break through

521
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 2: to those other communities too. Because I was influenced by

522
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 2: way more actors or acts is that were not of

523
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: Latin any kind of Latin descent than the Latin descent.

524
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 1: You just like the work, you like the story because

525
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: they were there.

526
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were the ones that were there.

527
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: And also talks about the colorless generation that we have

528
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: kind of somehow forced ourselves to grow up and be

529
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: inspired by, right, Like I never saw myself as a

530
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: Latino actor. I never saw my I was a brown actor.

531
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, I can do company, I

532
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: can do this.

533
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 6: You know.

534
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: So, so a lot of what a lot of what happens,

535
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: and it's so funny that you mentioned like what about

536
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: is the nerds, because now there is a real exciting,

537
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: colorful rainbow of performers that are you know, that really

538
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,479
Speaker 1: take the big section of like who we are as

539
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: Latino's on screen and there's so much about storytelling and

540
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: you talk about new mediums, and I, you know, it

541
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: was there was there an image to where you were like, oh,

542
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to do that, even though like my whole

543
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: family's like what.

544
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 3: You know, it was really because I didn't know anyone

545
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 3: in the entertainment industry at all, So it was like

546
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 3: for me, it started in theater, but I just.

547
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 4: Didn't know how it was going to happen. You know.

548
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 3: There was an actress in theater that I when I

549
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 3: was sort of starting my theater career and like trying

550
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 3: to like see more theater and see more plays. And

551
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 3: I had gone to the Organ Shakespeare Festival and there's

552
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 3: an actress named Vilma Silva and she's Latina and she

553
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 3: was playing the lead in I think it was Taming

554
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: the Shrew, and I was like this in my audience, like.

555
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 4: Like I couldn't believe that I was.

556
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: Seeing this woman was doing this, you know, and like

557
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 3: but my family just didn't.

558
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 4: They were like I don't know.

559
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: I want to do what I will do?

560
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 3: What? Yeah, I mean, I'm guessing it was slightly different

561
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 3: for you because it was like somebody already had opened

562
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 3: some of those doors and been like, what's behind the exactly?

563
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 6: And I kind of I didn't want to. I'm very private.

564
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 6: I'm a very shy person. I wanted to keep my

565
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 6: life private. And so I realized I have this power,

566
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 6: this platform to be able to share my story because

567
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 6: I'm not the only one. Like it's enough that I

568
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 6: Mexican American, and then I also have this platform that

569
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 6: people feel like they can't relate to me, or to

570
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 6: anybody in my circle or people you know, actions actors,

571
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 6: like they can't relate. But it's like, no, I want

572
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 6: to be able to open it up and show you guys,

573
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 6: like we're just as human as you. We grew up

574
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 6: all the same, I've gone through almost similar things, different things,

575
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 6: and if I if we have nothing to relate to,

576
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 6: let me help you.

577
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 2: That's fine. Yeah, that's fine.

578
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 6: There.

579
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: Now you see that our culture has been expanded in

580
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: all kinds of media, right, like all kinds of platforms

581
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: and genres and all that, and you know, we come

582
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: full circle. To podcasting, which is a new frontier for Latinos.

583
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: And you think about you know, I know you're no

584
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: stranger to it, and obviously you're no stranger to it too,

585
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: and then you also have a lot of podcasts experience too.

586
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: But I when I think about podcasts, I think about

587
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: this this new frontier for Latinos to discover. Now not

588
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: only you know, we're not only an ocean of versions

589
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: of them, you know, but stories that perhaps are not

590
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: ready for a movie, perhaps I'm not ready for a

591
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: TV show. And it's just like another medium that really expands,

592
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: and it's a very exciting one because this is one

593
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: we can really control. This is one where we can

594
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: really create the narrative, but we can really find it.

595
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: And one of the things I'm incredibly proud of for

596
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: Michael Tuda Podcast Network is to get out of the

597
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: way and we empowered. We just like tell the story,

598
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: you go, you go. You know what was your feeling

599
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: was you experience with podcasting? What you know, what triggered

600
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: what emotions? And then they did it fascinate you The

601
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: fact that you can entertain people on because you did scripted.

602
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 4: I'm timescripted. I'm done, Like nonscripted. You know, it's as

603
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 4: you were talking about, I thought.

604
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 3: One of the things we're doing right now is like

605
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: we're sitting around, you know, shooting like and I think

606
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: that that I mean, whatever kind of family, family group

607
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: or chosen family you come from, that is a part

608
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: of connecting with your family, and like that traditionally, Like

609
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: when I think about my family's tradition, like Nochuana is

610
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 3: a big one where we're like we're up until midnight.

611
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: We're up until midnight, and like there's a lot of wine,

612
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: there's a lot of food. People are just talking and

613
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: like everyone's going around telling a story. It's so loud.

614
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: Everyone's voices are like on top of each other. But

615
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 3: like the storytelling and the sharing of like particularly the

616
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: specific family history, our specific stories of that family and

617
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: what we've been through and what we've lived through and

618
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: how funny it was or how sad it was, and

619
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: how hard it was or how beautiful it was. It

620
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: all gets rehashed on those holidays. And I think, in

621
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: a small way, I think that that's what podcasting and

622
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 3: storytelling through podcasts can do because it's just audio, right,

623
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: Like the families, I was sitting down to watch like

624
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 3: all of our family movies. We're telling each other, we're

625
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: reliving it with each other, We're telling each other, or

626
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 3: we're like talking about stuff that.

627
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Speaker 4: I mean, I can't tell you how many holidays I've

628
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 4: had more.

629
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, what what like where you're just finding stuff

630
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: out all the time.

631
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 4: And I think that that's.

632
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: Part of that, right absolutely? And look, I mean how

633
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: often the four of us going to be in the

634
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: same space together, share our stories, get to know each other,

635
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: give people a chance to get to know us without

636
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: formats like this, you know, I mean, who knows? You know,

637
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: hopefully a lot. Hopefully there's plenty of work that's going

638
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: to be had and we'll get to celebrate and tell

639
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: stories together. But to actually share our experiences that I'm

640
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: sure many people can relate to some version of our

641
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: experience or another. Like, you know, it is wonderful to

642
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: have a place where people can actually go source that

643
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: and what if.

644
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: You important tradition to start and be able to pass

645
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: down and historically record some of our thoughts, some of

646
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: our stories, some of our genre, some of you know,

647
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: some of our lessons you know, through this medium that

648
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: can be passed down and be heard generations and generations.

649
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: What's been your experience so far? What's the most special

650
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: thing of we're making your show?

651
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

652
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Speaker 6: Well, first of all, just I think Mike Utura the

653
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 6: network itself, like for someone Latino specifically to find a place,

654
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 6: like I said before, like I'd never felt like I

655
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 6: had a place like in school because I was Latina

656
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 6: or now there's a specific network that you can find

657
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 6: in different podcasts to relate to different stories. Exactly, it's

658
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 6: a community and everybody's like, oh wow, I can connect

659
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 6: with this person and this person, And for me, it's

660
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 6: the same thing storytelling.

661
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 4: For me, it's healing.

662
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 6: I heal my inner child, talking about these things or

663
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 6: experiences that I didn't get to have as a child,

664
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 6: and hearing my guests and hearing their experiences as well,

665
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 6: and kind of just bring some truth into light of

666
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 6: how you know, our traumas and growing up it was

667
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 6: never easy, but at the end of the day, we

668
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 6: had our family, we had people to connect with.

669
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 4: And I think that.

670
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 6: For me when I created the podcast, like it took

671
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 6: me a couple of years. It was always an idea

672
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 6: in the back of my head, like I want to

673
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 6: do it, but I'm too shy.

674
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 4: Will people watch it or whatever?

675
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 6: And I'm like, you know what, let me just do it.

676
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 6: And whoever will listen will listen, and who can connect

677
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 6: will connect, And for me that's the most important part,

678
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 6: especially you know, being Latina, Like traumas are there's a

679
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 6: lot of traumas sadly, but they're so healing and so

680
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 6: rewarding as well. And to be able to have these

681
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 6: recorded and to show the future generations like Okay, let's

682
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 6: talk about it, let's heal it, and let's see where

683
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 6: we can move on and get better in the next generation.

684
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

685
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: So, as we wrap our beautiful conversations, by the way,

686
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: there are a lot of a lot of honesty and

687
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: a lot of love has been shared and it's really

688
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: fun to relive. And I'm so excited that you guys,

689
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: we're able to get this person with your stories and

690
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: your origin because we never get a chance to like

691
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: really celebrate, like how did the wind that it happened?

692
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: You know, as we kind of go down our chat,

693
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: those two things I wanted to ask, like what specific

694
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: Latino tradition we're passing down to the next gen. That

695
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: would be one that I love for everyone to answer trauma.

696
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 2: No, no, no, just the easiest want to hand over. You

697
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: know that's it, be a perfectly excused from it too,

698
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: because you know yeah.

699
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: And then the last thing is, you know what advice

700
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: would you give somebody who is being inspired by this

701
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: conversation and saying not only I want to be mean,

702
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: but I want to do what they do.

703
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go ahead, and just if you are inspired

704
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 6: to be yourself, I think most importantly, I know that

705
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 6: sounds so cliche, but I know people get embarrassed or

706
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 6: shamed sometimes from where they come from. It's like no,

707
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 6: like own it, learn from it, and kind of just

708
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 6: be who you are, don't be.

709
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: Afraid to step out, do whatever you need to do.

710
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 6: And who will love you will love you, and that's it.

711
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 6: And if they don't, they're not meant to be a

712
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 6: part of your life.

713
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 4: So I think Spanish.

714
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 6: I think I'm gonna pass that true.

715
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna teach the kids Spanish.

716
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 6: I feel like rather know two more languages than just one.

717
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: So in terms of tradition or like passing down, I

718
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: think a lot of it for our family is going

719
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 3: to be food. I think that's a big way to

720
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: connect with my ancestors who passed and things like, I mean,

721
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: I'm not really religious, but I love the tradition of buana.

722
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 4: I think it's so fun.

723
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: It's so exciting for I see my like all my

724
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: little cousins like losing their minds, you know, like waiting

725
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 3: for midnight.

726
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 4: That's so that's something that I think is just going to.

727
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 5: Be really talking.

728
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 3: And like I think my advice, I mean, my advice

729
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 3: is very practical.

730
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 4: Is it dumbed?

731
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: No, Listen, there's a tool for every house savior money. Yeah.

732
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: I think my dad definitely didn't tease me that.

733
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 4: Because I feel like I grew up in a lot

734
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 4: of lack. There was a lot of lack in my household.

735
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: And I think when there's a lot of lack, and

736
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 3: it's not for everyone, not everyone's experience is this, but

737
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: when there is a sense of lack, there can be

738
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: a sense of like I'm going to lose everything that

739
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: I have, or I'm gonna, you know, if I make money,

740
00:34:58,600 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 3: like it's.

741
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 4: Going to just go away, so I better send it now,

742
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 4: you know.

743
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 3: And I wish someone had said to me earlier, like

744
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: it's going to come and go. But there's a way

745
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: to learn how to be smart with it and financial

746
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: like smartness.

747
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what financial for.

748
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 3: Everybody, like under their access access points for everyone, and

749
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 3: the Internet is the greatest library there's ever been. You know,

750
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: don't go down a rabbit hole, but like, no.

751
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: Go down the rabbit hole. Yeah, yeah, but I think

752
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: that's a beautiful day because I just opening up that conversation.

753
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, my parents didn't have.

754
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: No and when you don't have, you feel guilty about well,

755
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: you also feel guilty about even bringing the subject up

756
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: because the last thing you want to talk about is

757
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 2: something you don't have. Like I don't want to talk

758
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: about money if I don't have it. It would really I

759
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: don't want to talk about that.

760
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: My mom writing checks at the grocery store, and I'd

761
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 3: be like trying to learn how to write a check

762
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: looking over her shoulders. She'd be like with it, like

763
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 3: she would make me go away because she was nervous

764
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: about like mentally balancing how she was going to do

765
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: what I'm.

766
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 4: Going to do now.

767
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like so even if that's how I grew

768
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: up or whatever. When I think about especially like young

769
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 3: artists coming into a business that is there's lots of variables.

770
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 4: It's like save your money, Like.

771
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: You don't you're gonna have your eyes and lows and

772
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: you want to be able to make good choices. You

773
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: got to have some money in the bank to support

774
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: those choices.

775
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: And wanting to like yeah, go out like do it big,

776
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 3: get that fancy perse or whatever.

777
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 4: But like, yes, that.

778
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: Person said your back said your bag.

779
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 4: Yeah I was very boring, but oh no, no.

780
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: It's actually believe it or not.

781
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 1: It's probably one of the most important things for any

782
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: future artists to understand that, you know, it's not just

783
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: like quitting everything you know because you're about to be

784
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: This is that you have to pay a road in

785
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: a runway so you could really give it the best

786
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: shot at becoming who you want to become.

787
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: Also, like we're like on the cusp of creating a

788
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: new world in which there's generational wealth in the United

789
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: States for Latinos. It's happening now, it's already happening, you know,

790
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 3: and there's gonna be more and more of us that

791
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: are giving that to our families and trying to like

792
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 3: get things in place to have that be the truth.

793
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 3: And like that's so exciting to me to think about like,

794
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: it doesn't have to be what you grew up with.

795
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: It could be something to absolutely, but it's great that

796
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: you open that people's minds to that. Like I try

797
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: to pass down that same advice very often as often

798
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: as possible, because I think it's critical. I'm with Stephanie

799
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: on everything, just everything we've talked about. He yes, food

800
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: is a big thing. Food and music with big things,

801
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: you know, because I think those things they just they

802
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: stay with you in a way that no matter where

803
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: you are in the world, no matter what's going on

804
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: in your life, when those things you smell something that's familiar,

805
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: or you taste something familiar, or you hear music, you know,

806
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: those things I think just have a way of of

807
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: touching our soul that I whatever it is, whether some

808
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: of its Spanish music, whether some of its American music,

809
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: whatever that is, you know, And I think it's about

810
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 2: creating the memories. Like when you create the memory around

811
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: the thing, the thing has relevance, you know, by itself.

812
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, it's a play to savicha. But if

813
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: I used to eat sevichia with my grandmother, then we

814
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: had music in the background and the smell of that

815
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: and something else going on. All of a sudden, you're transported,

816
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: and those are the things you can take with you

817
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: no matter where you are in life, no matter whether

818
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 2: you're up or down. Those are the things that I

819
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 2: think give us.

820
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: Recipes are coades, our coades to our memories into Harrison

821
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: Jules for sure.

822
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: Yes, history, this was what was available. This is what

823
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: we did with it. This is how we throw it.

824
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: Most of our amazing cuisine.

825
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: It's because that's what was available, of course, you know,

826
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: And it's a beautiful thing to think about it. This

827
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: was food that was that was capable impossible for everyone

828
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: in the community and generally with love.

829
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and I love what you said. Be you,

830
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: you know, be you everything that that feels like to you,

831
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: because you know your mom came from here and your

832
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: dad came from here, whatever. Embrace all of it because

833
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 2: that is you. Be that. Be embraced that you know,

834
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: and then be who you want to be. But embrace

835
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 2: that because that is the foundation, you know, whatever that is. No,

836
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 2: I'm so my advice though I didn't get to. Oh

837
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: I found your advice would be no, no, no, no,

838
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: but no, no, just my little advice. No, no, it's

839
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 2: a little just a little thing is like, continue the dialogue,

840
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, don't be afraid to have

841
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: these conversations. Elevate the level of conversation you have with

842
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: your friends. And if you're not having good conversation with

843
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 2: your friends, get better friends, you know, talk about things

844
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: that are meaningful. We're living in a time where you know,

845
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 2: so much of what's thrown at us that we're bombarded with,

846
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 2: whether it's you know, coming from TV, radio, whatever radio

847
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: is now, like so many things are vibrating at a

848
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: low frequency right now. When whenever and wherever you can

849
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: do it, elevate, you know, elevate the conversation, you know.

850
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 4: Here and there.

851
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: Once in a while, you know. Yeah, but I'm saying,

852
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: don't live there, you know, don't live there. It's just

853
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: easy to do.

854
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: So I think for me, it's going to be making

855
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: sure that my daughter knows out a sausa dance. Yeah,

856
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: as number one, I think that she absolutely loves dancing.

857
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: So we know for a fact that they didn't for far.

858
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: And like one simple advice is so important to have

859
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: a plan, but it's even more important to be bold.

860
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: You gotta be bald. You can't be timid. With your ideas.

861
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: You have to be you have to be bald where

862
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: you're talent and whold you feel you are you know,

863
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: and I think, uh, and never forget that, you know,

864
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: your heritage is really a part of your superpower and

865
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: then that's the identity that gives you that fire to

866
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: actually get it done. Really trust that your heritage is

867
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: giving you this uploadable decode in there that I will

868
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: upload when you have the next challenge and it will

869
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: get you.

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Speaker 2: Through it, you know.

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Speaker 1: So I would say, trust your God and then, you know,

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Speaker 1: for the fans is every single sway. But with that,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for being part of the Michael

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Speaker 1: Tuda family and really really grateful that you will share

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Speaker 1: your stories. This has been a production of Michael Tuda

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