WEBVTT - Danielle Fishel 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.640 Yes, the cover of seventeen. I felt like, wow, I 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:05.520 this is the biggest I mean, it's still maybe to 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:09.080 this day, the biggest thing I've done. Well, I don't 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:11.760 think it's the biggest thing you've done. But I have 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:14.200 never been on the cover of seventeen magazine. Let's be 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:17.239 very very clear about that. Do you want Do you 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:19.400 want to? I could probably, I could see if I 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:23.800 have any connections, maybe I could go well, yeah, I 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.119 don't know, because you know, it's never too late. I 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:28.000 think maybe it's too late at some point. I don't 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:31.560 know specifically, it is too late to be on seventeen magazine. 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:35.559 I think actually it is. It is. I don't think 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.440 it's worth trying. I don't know. I don't think. So 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:47.080 we'll talk after, we'll talk. We'll talk after. Hello. My 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:50.240 name is Danielle Fishel. You may know me better as 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:54.000 to Pango Lawrence and then eventually to Pango Lawrence Matthews. 0:00:54.480 --> 0:01:03.880 I am a TV director and an actor. Hello. Everyone, 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:08.320 it is my pleasure to welcome you all back to 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:12.360 Off the Beat. I am your host, Brian baum Gartner, 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:17.960 and I am thrilled and delighted today to welcome the 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:22.679 one and only Danielle fishial a k a. To Panga 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:27.480 Lawrence onto the podcast. Now, this is a little bit 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:31.760 of a different episode today, all right. Danielle, she was 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:35.399 only twelve years old when she got her start on 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:39.440 Boy Meets World. Boy Meets World, one of the biggest 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:43.199 sitcoms of the nineties the t G I f days 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:48.080 for those of you who remember, or we're alive now 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.400 to give you a sense of just how ahead Danielle was. 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:55.400 By the time myself and most of the cast of 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:59.480 the Office even made it to Hollywood, she had already 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:03.640 done Evans seasons of the show, making her a show 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:09.359 biz veteran before she was even twenty years old. Since then, 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.680 she's gone on to star in many other projects, including 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:18.240 the hit reboot Girl Meets World, and she's also just 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:23.680 launched her own rewatch podcast, pod Meets World. I loved 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:27.799 this conversation, all right. It was so interesting for me 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:32.640 to hear about her challenges of being a child star, 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:36.440 how much she had to endure that as an adult 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:41.799 working in Hollywood I was barely aware of. We talk 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:47.520 about everything from teen comedy to her on screen relationships, 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:53.080 to her first kiss being on screen, and finally playing 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:57.919 a grown up version of her character over a decade later. 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:08.160 Here she is the lovely and talented Danielle Fishal, Bubble 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:15.919 and Squeak. I love Bubble and Squiger Bubble and Squeaker 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:31.639 Cookie every moment. Lift over from the nut before. Hello, Hi, 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:36.119 I'm so excited to see you, Danielle. I'm so excited 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.119 to see you as well. How are you? I am 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:43.240 doing great. I I know that you are technically interviewing me, 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:48.040 but I cannot even begin to have a conversation with 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.040 you without asking what it's like to be on my 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:56.320 favorite show, trash Truck. I love that you just did 0:03:56.400 --> 0:04:01.560 that miss reverse misdirection. See, it's your favorite show. You 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:05.080 know you're not really demographic. You know what, I don't care. 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.360 I my son, I my son. I don't even think 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.000 it is quite your demographic. He just turned three, and 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.920 it's a little I think I think it's I watch 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.320 it with him, and he loves it. He's into it. 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.480 He loves trash Truck. But then you know, it's not 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.800 as like it's not like Coco Melon, where it's like 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.520 there's a bunch of all kinds of crazy things going on. 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.159 And so after a few episodes, he'll want to like 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.279 wander Away, and I'm just riveted I get to the 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.920 next episode of trash Truck like it is truly my favorite. 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.320 My husband put trash Truck socks in my Christmas stocking 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.919 and I wore them recently to a con. I'm literally 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:41.720 a huge fan of trash Truck and specifically Walter. So 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:43.960 I just have to thank you for that. Thank you 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.520 so much. And I can say this because I truly 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.200 had nothing to do with it. I think it looks 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:54.200 so beautiful. I think it is like the animation that 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.440 they did. I mean they took let me tell you, 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:00.720 they took a long long time to to do it. 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:05.280 I was told they built an animation studio. I don't 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.440 like the South of France or something. It's very bizarre. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:12.919 I know. Yeah, thank you for bringing it up. I 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.680 tell everyone about it. I said, even if you don't 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:19.080 have kids, you'll like trash Truck. It's just a great show. 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.320 It's a trash Truck has the the appeal that like 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:26.200 Bluey also has where adults just you. I mean, I've cried. 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.440 I've cried a trash Truck. I've cried a Bluey. It's 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.080 just it truly is it's it is beautiful, and it 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.080 is so well done and so well written, and you 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.159 guys are just you guys just really do a great 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.000 job with it. So I just really had to thank you, well, 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:42.560 thank you so much for that. I appreciate it. Pre 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.880 trash truck. Do you do you remember when we met? 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:50.760 Do you do you remember when we met? I don't know. 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.880 You don't remember when we met? No, but I have 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:57.960 a I have a terrible memory where I'm on, I'm 0:05:58.040 --> 0:05:59.880 unpacking a lot of Why do I have a terrible 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:02.200 memory on our own podcast? I don't know? Okay, please 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:06.120 tell me the story. So we met in public on 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:10.920 a stage on I Believe Live television. You and I 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:17.159 we presented an award at the American Humane Association's Hero 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:22.680 the Hero Dog Awards. Of course, yes, I do that. 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:26.039 I do it every year, do you. Well, that's why 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:28.520 you don't. That's why you don't remember. That's at least 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.640 what I'm gonna say, because that's why that was my 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:32.960 one and only. I think they kicked me off after that. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:36.599 I went off. So you were you weren't? No, come on, 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:40.080 you were wonderful. I am actually I am an ambassador 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:43.200 for the American Humane Association, and so I vote every year. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.040 I'm I'm part of the voting process for the Hero Dogs, 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.480 and then I have when they've done it in person. 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.800 I have presented every year, and then I've done it 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.359 on zoom a couple of times too. But that is 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.880 probably why. But I can't believe that. Yeah, I'm going 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:58.240 to look up all of our pictures. But I do 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.640 remember it now, of course I remember being It's it 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:02.640 is weird how that happens when you present an award 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:05.240 with somebody because you don't actually meet like early in 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:09.320 the evening. You meet about three minutes before you are 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.560 put on stage and you have your script and you're 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.680 getting a touch up, and then it's you know, you 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:15.880 go out and you do your thing and then you 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:19.680 part ways and I didn't see you again. That was that. 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:23.280 That was it. Um, So yes, a long time ago. 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:28.520 I want to go back, though even longer to your childhood. Now. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:33.800 You grew up in in Mesa, Arizona. Is that right? Well, 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.920 that is something I clarify all the time. So I 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:42.880 was born in Mesa. I was born three weeks before 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:47.360 my dad graduated college. But both my parents are native Californians. 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.920 And so when my dad graduated, I was three weeks 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.520 old and I moved to California. That is the amount 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:55.400 of time I spent in Mesa. But it is on 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.720 my Wikipedia page that I was born in Mesa. And 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:02.480 so I still like every political cycle I get um 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:06.360 like targeted campaigns like Danielle get the word out in Mesa, 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:10.640 and I'm like, I don't have a real connection to Mesa. 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.080 I haven't been there since I was twenty one days old. 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.960 But so I consider myself a native Californian because that 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.080 is where I've lived since I was twenty one days old. 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.520 That is very reasonable for you to consider yourself that. 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.120 So you moved, So you moved. Then where did you 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:31.640 move after twenty one days of life? It twenty one 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:35.240 days of life. I made the trek to Orange County, California, 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.440 and I lived there until I was ten. And then 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.320 it was kind of just a stroke of real luck 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.640 that at the same age, like nine ten, I decided 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:46.960 I wanted to be an actor. By the way, I 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.559 did not really know what that meant. I didn't how 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.640 could you possibly know? Really, I just knew that there 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.199 was a very cool girl at my school that was 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:56.959 a couple of years older than me who came to 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.480 school one day and said, guess what, I got an 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.560 agent and I'm going to be a model. And I 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.360 wanted to be like her, and so I went to 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.480 my mom and I said, Mom, I want an agent. 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.400 I want to be a model. And my mom said, Danielle, 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.480 I love you, but you are very short. I am 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.600 now a full grown human five one and my mom, 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:16.240 you know, at the time, I was like nine years old. 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.880 My Mom's like, models are very tall. You can't do that. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:20.520 So I went back to school the next day and 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.840 I told the girl my mom said, I'm too short, 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:24.640 and she said, oh, well, my agents are gonna put 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.000 me on t V two. I don't think you need 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.079 to be tall to be on TV. And that was 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.800 all I knew. That was it. I decided that that's 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.680 all I needed. I met that requirement. I wanted to 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.680 be on TV. And around that same time, my dad 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.839 changed jobs from working in Orange County to working up 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:43.160 more towards l A and so we moved to Calabasas 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.600 and I started auditioning. Wow, so it was just about 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.920 trying to follow the cool kid. At this point, now 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.480 had you done, like like like, had you done any 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.280 You hadn't done anything at this point on a stage 0:09:55.880 --> 0:10:02.040 like in school, elementary school. Yes, I was the ballerina 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.720 in The Wizard of Oz. Remember when like Dorothy arrives 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.120 in munchkin Land. I think it had like two lines, 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.440 But I basically just had my arms up in the 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:13.280 air and walked in on my two two and did 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.920 something with the Lollipop Guild and then and then wandered out. 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.920 And that was the extent of my stage experience. It 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.240 wasn't even that that made me go, wow, the stage 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.160 life is for me. It was really just that I 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.719 wanted to be like the cool you wanted to fall 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:29.920 the cool girl. You see. I don't Do you think 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.520 that there's a cultural thing about now that I know 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.520 you weren't really from mas Arizona. Do you think that 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:39.120 there's something about like growing up in southern California that 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:43.120 it's it's more a part of more people's experience. Do 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.320 you think that that's true. Possibly, it wasn't in Orange 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.560 County where I at the time, where I lived in 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.840 Orange County, It's not. I wasn't beach Town, Orange County. 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.600 Even I was like, you know, Inland way in len 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.320 youre Belinda, California, and we knew no actors. We didn't. 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.600 It was there were there was nothing about that going on. 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:05.280 Um I just knew that like the idea of auditioning 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.400 and trying to do stuff on television sounded fun. But 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:12.400 I also my mom. My parents fought against it for 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.880 a full year. They were like, absolutely not, We're not 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.640 putting you know, there was, especially in the early nineties, 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:21.280 there was like a lot of you know, derogatory thoughts 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.640 about child actors, like, oh, being a child actor is 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.360 terrible and you you grow up to you know, Rob 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:29.760 Banks or something like they you just there were it 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.040 felt like there was no good that could come from this, 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.640 and so they kept telling me no and and no, 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:38.880 this isn't for you. And then eventually when they agreed, 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:42.079 my mom said to my dad, look, let's just let 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:44.440 her try it. We all know how everyone's heard about 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.240 how hard this is. What are the odds she's even 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.440 going to book anything? She'll try it. We will have 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.560 given her the opportunity, she won't do anything, and then 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.120 she'll get over it. Like that was there. Their only 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:59.360 reason they agreed is because this is going nowhere. And um, 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.480 and so then they we did the we did the 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:03.520 thing you had to do back then, which when there 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.400 was no digital way of communicating with agents. My mom 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:08.880 read a book that was like how to Get your 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:13.080 Kid into Acting for Dummies. And in the in the 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.719 book it said, here is a list of agencies, and 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:19.720 they're mailing addresses. And my mom took pictures of me 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:23.320 on our regular film pictures of me, and then printed 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.920 them out and mailed copies of them with a letter 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:29.240 about me, my age and why. You know what I said, 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.520 I I wanted to do this, and and here are 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:35.439 some yes that she wrote and sent them to these agencies. 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.800 And I think we sent them to maybe ten agents, 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.200 and we heard back from maybe six of them, and 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:44.920 they were interested in meeting with me. It was pretty good, 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:48.800 pretty good, and so we Yeah, my mom took some 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:52.000 great pictures. You know, I was photogenic and my mom 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.319 was a great photographer. And so we went to those meetings. 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.920 And I remember being a little girl sitting in these 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:01.320 meetings with agents and hearing them, you know, talk about 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.880 my experience, and it was like nothing unless you count 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:07.200 this to two role I had in in elementary school 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.640 and um, I ended up signing with an agent. I 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:14.240 signed with Kelman Arletta and the first thing she said 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.520 was I'm going to put you in a commercial workshop class. 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:20.040 And so I got put into like an acting class 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.920 for commercials and um, and then I started auditioning from there. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:28.560 So you're I'm doing the math here quickly. It's difficult 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:34.640 for me. You're ten then roughly right? Ten? Yes? Yes? 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.839 So this is this is your your ten years old 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.600 and you start this process and at this point you 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.840 don't know, you don't know anything. And by the way, 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.720 I have to say for people who don't understand, taking 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:50.640 a photo on your cameras and you know, your home 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.320 camera is not usually how this is done. You usually 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.800 go and you get a professional photographer. It's called a 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.560 head shot, and you have that done. You don't put 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.679 a five seven that mom took uh in the mail 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.640 and expect to hear anything back. So there was clearly 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:10.920 something that people saw. So okay, so your ten is 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:14.480 this fun? Then this class that you take about auditioning 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:18.920 for commercials? Yeah, it was incredibly fun. I you know, 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:24.280 I was a very bubbly, fast talking ten year old girl, 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.000 and when you're looking for ten year old girls and 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:30.480 commercials that is like kind of what you're looking for, 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.160 and so I think there was something. I think what 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:36.640 people saw in me was that without like my instinct 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.680 was perfect for ten year old girl commercials. And so 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.480 the class was very fun. I remember I have it 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.320 on video somewhere and it's one of my favorite videos. 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:49.160 It's me and another little boy and they were having 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:53.520 us pretend to be doing a Skittles commercial. And you know, 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:55.000 both of us are up there in front of the 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.400 camera and it's his turn to pretend that he has 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.760 the skittles, and the person next to him is like, 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:01.840 can I have a skittle? And and the boys supposed 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:06.280 to go Skittles, Skittles, you want some? And the boy 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:12.760 is going Skittles, Skittles, you want And you can hear 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.120 the teacher go okay, let's do it again, but with 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.680 a lot of energy. You know, we want to sell skittles. 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:21.120 Skittles are the greatest. You know, imagine you're in They 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:23.040 want to know that you love skittles. And he's doing 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:24.920 it again, and he does it very much the same way. 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.000 And then it's my turn to be the person with 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:28.720 the skittles, and he hands me the Skittles and I 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.560 go Skittles Skittles and he literally jumps out of his skin, 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:36.520 like what the heck was that? I literally startled him 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:41.240 with my enthusiasm. So yeah, for me, it was it 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:45.080 was a blast. Right. So this is like, uh, this 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:48.480 is like a I don't know, kids play soccer or 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.840 you know they go to music class or you know, 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:55.800 dance ballet, whatever. This is. This is like your after 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:59.320 school activity and you're having fun with it. That's exactly right. 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.760 And I loved every minute of it. And then I 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.960 got an audition and it was for It was my 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.040 first audition ever and it was for Mattel and it was, 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:12.200 UM this Mattel commercial where these dolls there were three 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:15.720 dolls and one of them UM had braids, and you 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.440 got fake scissors and you could cut her hair and 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:20.880 and you pulled from the back of her head this 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:23.040 area where the braids were connected, and that's how it 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.080 looked like you were cutting at the braids just got shorter, 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:29.040 and then another one another. It was It's very creepy. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.840 I have a I have a screen recording of the commercial. 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.040 UM A little girl who has an ice cream cone. 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:35.560 When you put the ice cream cone to her mouth. 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:37.960 It makes like an ice cream ring around her lips, 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.840 and and then the doll um. The third doll was 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:42.360 you push a button in the top of her head 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.520 and two front teeth come out of her gums. She 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:51.320 gets her first teeth. So I get this audition and 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.000 I'm very excited for it, and I go in. My 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.040 mom takes me. You know, it's a long drive in traffic. 0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:59.480 Do I'm doing my homework in the car on the 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.640 way there. And we get into the audition and my 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.760 mom's biggest concern, She's told me, now my biggest Her 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.720 biggest concern with me going into acting was that there 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.040 was going to be a lot of rejection, and she 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:14.600 didn't want the rejection to beat me down as a child. 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.960 She didn't want me to feel like it was my 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:20.000 fault if I didn't get something, or like, well, what 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.240 was wrong with me? And so she she would talk 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.520 to me about the fact that it was probably that 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.760 I was going to get told no a lot often. 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.199 So on the way there, you know, she's saying, you know, 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.720 Remembers is your first audition. It's fun, like she's trying 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:34.600 to make everything light and I'm like, yeah, but I'm nervous. 0:17:34.640 --> 0:17:36.320 I don't know what it's going to be. And I 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:38.960 go in and I do the audition. I come out 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.639 and my mom goes, how did it go? And I go, great, 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.879 I got it and she goes, what did did they 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.280 They tell you you got it? And I go no, 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.560 I just I just I feel it. I just I 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.879 nailed it. I got it. And she's like, oh my gosh. 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:56.160 We get in my car and she goes, no, you know, Danielle, 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:58.840 this isn't how this works. You you were going to 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:02.480 go in for so many auditions and you're gonna you're 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:04.720 gonna be told no way more than you're gonna be 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:06.760 told yes. And this is your first audition. Because I 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:08.320 was like okay. I was like, but Mama, you know 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.359 I got it. She's like, oh man. So we go 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.480 home and the next day I get a call back. 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.800 She's like, wow, Danielle, guess what. You get a callback? 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:18.119 You have to they want to see you again. And 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:19.560 I go see, I told you, And she's like, well, 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:22.320 callback isn't booking it, but yes, this is a good sign. 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.639 You're you're getting closer. So I go in, I do 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.399 the audition again. I come out. My mom goes, how 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.280 did it go? And I go, great, I got it, 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:31.520 and she's like, okay again, Hope, I know you're closer, 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:33.600 and you know you did last yesterday And I said, yeah, 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.080 you know, yesterday you told me I wasn't I didn't 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:37.480 get it, and today I got a call back. She's like, 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:41.359 that's true, but still just trying to like temper my expectations. 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.440 And then I did book the commercial, and my mom 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.840 was like, great, Now what do I do? Now? I 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:50.400 know I have to like convince you that just because 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.400 you got this one doesn't mean you're gonna get all 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.320 of them. And of course, you know, I I ended 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:59.080 up getting my share of rejection. But I just think 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.000 it's funny that I walked out with so much confidence. 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:06.680 And then I was like, I told you that is uh, 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:11.359 that is unusual. That is that it does not usually 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:33.000 work that way. No, you had no experience. You take 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:38.600 this class and start booking commercials. At what point does 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:44.600 your agent think, well maybe she should audition. Well, she's 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:46.440 got to have a lot of confidence that your first 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:48.960 job you booked, I know how this thing works, So 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:52.560 that's she's got to feel good about that, and so 0:19:53.200 --> 0:20:00.760 she must fairly quickly start submitting you for actual television roles, right, yeah, 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.639 yes she does. She starts submitting me for guest starring 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:08.200 roles on different shows, and I book uh an episode 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:12.199 of Harry and the Henderson But yeah, it was a 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:17.320 featured a featured extra. Basically, I didn't say anything. And 0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:20.680 then she submits me to I auditioned for full House, 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:24.920 and I book full House and I played the role 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:30.120 of Jennifer two and Jennifer two um was only Jennifer 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:31.840 two because her friend that was there with her was 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.320 also Jennifer. And so the line in the show was 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:37.439 that the girl says, Hi, I'm Jennifer, and I said, Hi, 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:41.840 I'm Jennifer too, not the number two. But also, and 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.600 as you could probably tell from the way I just 0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:48.800 did that line, Jennifer two was not that much different 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:52.040 than just regular Danielle that had been doing all of 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:58.360 the commercials. So again, I know nothing of what acting 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:02.240 actually is. My experience thus far from ten to twelve 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:05.240 was that if you just go in and say somebody 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:09.520 else's words exactly the way you would say them, you 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.080 will eventually book a job. Some at some point in time, 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:14.040 someone's going to be looking for just who you are, 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:17.560 and so those were the rules I had booked before 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:22.000 I got the audition for Boy Meats World. That's unbelievable. 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:24.800 Let me ask you about this. You know, I've talked 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:28.320 to a lot of people about how difficult it is 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:32.760 to just step in as a guest star to anything. Now, 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:35.919 are you intimidated about this or you just like, oh, no, 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:40.320 I've got this and you're totally relaxed about it. I 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:43.400 was pretty relaxed about it. I think I just had 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:46.640 so much confidence. I have no idea why I had 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:50.640 so much confidence, but I really I think I remember 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:53.480 being told in my commercial workshop class and in my 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:58.520 auditions that I was directionable, like I took direction well, 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:02.560 I listened and I could respond. And I was that 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:06.119 way as a child with my parents, and I was 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:09.040 that way as a student. I was kind of just yeah, 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:11.000 if you tell me what I need to do, I'll 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:13.679 get it done. And so I was really excited to 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:16.120 walk into the set a full house, and they made 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:19.760 it very easy too. They first of all incredible directors. 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:23.480 Rich Correll directed my first episode, and I think joel's 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:26.919 Wick directed my second episode that I did. And you know, 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:29.879 these are people who've done now at this point thousands 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:33.399 of episodes of TV, and UM, you know, they got it. 0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:35.760