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Speaker 4: My friend mocked my body in front of our coworkers,

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Speaker 4: so I snapped at her. I have big front airbags.

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Speaker 5: You go, girl, Yeah, yeah, you do.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: I'm currently fifty two kilograms and there's nothing I can

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Speaker 4: do to change the size of these things unless I

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Speaker 4: have surgery. I'm also extremely shy and from a very

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Speaker 4: conservative family, so my resentment and shame towards my bust

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Speaker 4: is an ongoing issue.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you never why do they call it that? You

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Speaker 1: never had bust?

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Speaker 4: This what it was called?

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Speaker 1: Wait, you dude? Do that?

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Speaker 4: By the way, it comes from a username. And if

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Speaker 4: you want to submit your own stories, go to the

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Speaker 4: r slash Okay Storytime separate it and I'm Angie.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dakota.

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Speaker 4: We're here to give good advice, cuthfully, but we don't

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Speaker 4: have all the answers. Riley doesn't even know what a

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Speaker 4: bust is.

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Speaker 6: I'm learning.

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Speaker 4: We're just gonna guess what we would do in this situation.

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Speaker 4: But let us know what you would do down in

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Speaker 4: the comments below. Hope, he says.

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Speaker 6: My friend Sarah.

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Speaker 4: Is one of those unfiltered freethinkers who says whatever's on

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Speaker 4: her mind. Gosh, I wonder if I know anyone like

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Speaker 4: that bus.

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Speaker 7: Oh no, oh no.

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Speaker 4: She's also a slim and her chest is very much

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Speaker 4: in proportion to the rest of her body. We work together,

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Speaker 4: and I'm always secretly jealous of how great shirts and

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Speaker 4: tops look on her, whereas I feel like I look

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Speaker 4: very sloppy and unprofessional with oversized ill fit. Sarah has

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Speaker 4: this wave, always bringing up my front airbags in conversation,

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Speaker 4: starting off complimentary but often ending with a subtle insult.

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Speaker 4: She knows they're a physical feature that I'm uncomfortable with,

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Speaker 4: but doesn't let up. Examples of things that she'll say

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Speaker 4: are how my front airbags look good now, but give

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Speaker 4: it a few years and they'll be down to my

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Speaker 4: knees ha, Or she'll show me comments on Reddit where

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Speaker 4: people are discussing chest size preferences, and most are commenting

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Speaker 4: how much they prefer a smaller bust over large, or

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Speaker 4: just a general reminder of how work or men will

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Speaker 4: never take me seriously because of my cartoon front airbags.

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Speaker 4: I know she's trying to have lighthearted fun, but it

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Speaker 4: gets to me and I've told her a few times

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Speaker 4: to drop it before. Now that we're working from home,

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Speaker 4: we all have daily video calls and meetings. Uniform is

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Speaker 4: not necessary and we can wear what we like. A

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Speaker 4: few days ago, it was extremely hot and I was

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Speaker 4: wearing a lighter, more revealing top than my usual baggie

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Speaker 4: cover ups. And during this video call in front of

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Speaker 4: six other colleagues, Sarah starts vocalizing her thoughts on my appearance,

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Speaker 4: holing up, put those away. You look like you're in

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Speaker 4: a in a what in a corner? We don't need

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Speaker 4: to see that first thing in the morning. Ha ha.

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Speaker 7: This is where you go directly to whatever supervisory department

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Speaker 7: is in your company, and you go. Her comments about

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Speaker 7: my appearance made me deeply uncomfortable. Yeah, and I would

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Speaker 7: appreciate if she would reprimanded and formally warned to not

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Speaker 7: refer to me in such a way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I was mortified. One other colleague laughed along, but the

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Speaker 4: rest looked uncomfortable. I felt close to tears, made an

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Speaker 4: excuse and left the meeting. Sarah called me up half

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Speaker 4: an hour later, asking me what was wrong, and I

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Speaker 4: went off on her.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: I told her to go herself, and then I was

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Speaker 4: sick of her constant jabs about my appearance. I went

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Speaker 4: on a ten minute tirade and hung up. Sarah has

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Speaker 4: been off sick since that day and we haven't spoken again.

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Speaker 4: I'm wondering if I was too harsh and maybe should

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Speaker 4: call and apologize for my outburst. Was I the a hole?

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Speaker 1: And we are?

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Speaker 4: We do have some relevant comments here, but what do

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Speaker 4: we think people in the room.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you were off for that.

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Speaker 7: You put up with it for a long time, and

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Speaker 7: I think you she should probably get fired.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, public apology on the Zoom meeting, trying to get

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Speaker 2: everyone to be like, I'm sorry. This is what I said, yeah, verbatim,

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Speaker 7: Honestly, I would want that, because then it just brings

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Speaker 7: more attention to Opie's Bazuga's this situation.

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Speaker 4: But we got some comments here, Danny Lives says, info,

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Speaker 4: have you been clear before about how you feel about

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Speaker 4: her comments? Opie says, yes, several times. I had even

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Speaker 4: opened up to her a few years ago about my

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Speaker 4: personal insecurities stepping mainly from my family, making me feel

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Speaker 4: ashamed of them. Sarah is fully aware that it's a

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Speaker 4: sensitive issue and edit number one, I'm fuming. I just

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Speaker 4: spoke with the colleague John, who was part of a

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Speaker 4: video call that day, and he told me that Sarah

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Speaker 4: has been telling everyone that it's me that's been bullying

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Speaker 4: her and making her feel insecure about her appearance. See,

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Speaker 4: we've got that jealousy thing.

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Speaker 5: Got of the jealousy thing.

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Speaker 4: Yikes. When she made those comments during the meeting, it

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Speaker 4: was in retaliation to how I've made her feel. Apparently,

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Speaker 4: I said she looks like a boy and called her

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Speaker 4: flat chested and ugly several times in the past. I

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Speaker 4: have never and would never say this. I don't even

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Speaker 4: understand the stupid boy body insult because a small bus

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Speaker 4: has always looked very beautiful and classy in my eyes. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: John knows that she's full of crap and has suggested

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Speaker 4: that we speak with hr. The others will also back

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Speaker 4: me up. I know most people here suggested to do this,

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Speaker 4: and I wasn't sure at first, but efitt I'm reporting her.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why I even considered her friend. She's

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Speaker 4: effing mental and annoying, and we do have a second update.

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Speaker 7: People, Hey, let's go HR yesterday when yeah, HR immediately.

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Speaker 5: Yep, yep, yep, yep.

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Speaker 4: And number two. I now feel stupid for even asking

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Speaker 4: the question. Am I the A hole? I thought I

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Speaker 4: may have been at one point because the video call

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Speaker 4: was amongst mostly work mates rather than clients, and I

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Speaker 4: wasn't sure if my sensitivity towards my body image made

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Speaker 4: me overreact to a joke that could have been innocent.

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Speaker 4: I now realize it wasn't. I've also spoken to another

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Speaker 4: coworker who was closer to Sarah, and she'd thinks Sarah

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Speaker 4: may have already reported me to HR. What she said.

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Speaker 4: The phone conversation we had after the meeting was filled

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Speaker 4: with harmful, bullying language and physical threats. It wasn't a

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Speaker 4: pleasant phone call. But the worst thing I said was

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Speaker 4: didn't want to speak to her again. The rest of

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Speaker 4: the conversation was just rehashing all the comments she made

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Speaker 4: also claims that I have been making inappropriate jokes about

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Speaker 4: her appearance and work ethic through the years, and this

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Speaker 4: confrontation was a long time coming. She also suggested that

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Speaker 4: I've convinced the guys in the office to take my

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Speaker 4: side by being a flirt and a tease. Did I

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Speaker 4: mention that I'm stupidly shy. My head is swimming, and

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Speaker 4: I think I'm may be dealing with an actual psycho.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how it's come to this ridiculous level

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Speaker 4: of craziness. All I wanted to do was get on

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Speaker 4: with my effing work in peace and get through this

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Speaker 4: crappy time. But now I have to deal with this BS.

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Speaker 4: Just to answer a few questions I've seen, I've contacted

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Speaker 4: HR with my complaint. I have a lot of old

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Speaker 4: text messages and emails with comments and memes Sarah has

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Speaker 4: sent to making fun of my chest size. There you go,

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Speaker 4: get the.

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Speaker 8: Receipts oh shoot, John and other.

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Speaker 4: Colleagues are fully supporting me, as well as my manager.

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Speaker 4: It will take a while for them to get back

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Speaker 4: to me, but I'm confident that things will be sorted

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Speaker 4: and Sarah will be dealt with. My front airbags alone

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Speaker 4: aren't five kilograms, which is one hundred and fourteen pounds.

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Speaker 4: My overall weight is fifty two kilograms. I mentioned this

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Speaker 4: because my chest seems much larger on my small frame.

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Speaker 4: Making clothes that others wear and look nice and look

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Speaker 4: completely gaudy and cheap on me. I can't lose any

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Speaker 4: more weight to make a different on my bust size.

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Speaker 4: I won't get surgery, but I have been working on

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Speaker 4: my body image issues, which my shyness and upbringing did

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Speaker 4: a number one. People's comments don't usually devastate me as

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Speaker 4: they once did, but Sarah obviously tried her best to

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Speaker 4: break me down. Thank you to all for clothing suggestions.

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Speaker 4: I will definitely look into tailoring some tops and have

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Speaker 4: spent some time checking out Bravisimo, which looks great in hindsight.

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Speaker 4: I should have confronted Sarah Moore sternly in the past,

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Speaker 4: but I guess I was trying to avoid conflict. Others

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Speaker 4: have suggested I may have allowed her to gaslight me,

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Speaker 4: which may be true. I just want to move on

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Speaker 4: at this point. We have a second update. Whoa, We've

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Speaker 4: got a second update. People, Wake up, Briley, We've got

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Speaker 4: a second update.

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Speaker 6: Let's go, let's go.

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Speaker 4: Anything before we get into it.

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Speaker 2: I believe that whatever you are gifted with is the

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Speaker 2: most beautiful thing. And no matter what other people saying agreed,

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Speaker 2: that's great. Yep, And hopefully the salute shamer shames her

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Speaker 2: way to another company.

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Speaker 4: There you go, up date numbers.

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Speaker 7: She's just a shamer shamer.

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Speaker 2: She's an accusatory salute shamer, wait, accusatory schlooter, slash shamer.

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Speaker 4: Do I sleep?

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Speaker 8: Basically she is banana.

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Speaker 4: Update number two. The co worker Lucy, who keeps in

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Speaker 4: contact with Sarah and told me earlier that Sarah may

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Speaker 4: have reported me to HR, has just phoned to tell

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Speaker 4: me that Sarah has suffered a serious panic attack. Lucy

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Speaker 4: does not want to take sides, but has suggested that

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Speaker 4: I reconsider taking drastic action. Sarah is too unwell to

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Speaker 4: talk to me herself, but has asked I drop my

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Speaker 4: complaint and she will drop hers, citing the whole thing

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Speaker 4: as a misunderstanding and stress induced disagreement. I've had panic

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Speaker 4: attacks before in my life, and I seriously felt like

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Speaker 4: I was going to pass away. It's a horrible feeling,

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Speaker 4: and if Sarah has honestly just had one herself, then

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Speaker 4: I don't want to push her too far. Sarah has

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Speaker 4: asked to move teams so we don't directly work with

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Speaker 4: one another. But it doesn't seem that she wants to

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Speaker 4: apologize yet. And just to clarify to people who assume

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Speaker 4: that I was wearing a kinie top or a tube

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Speaker 4: top during the meeting, I wasn't. It was a short

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Speaker 4: sleeved plain T shirt which hugged my front airbags more

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Speaker 4: and I think getting her fired during a time like

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Speaker 4: this may be a crappy thing to do.

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Speaker 1: No, she should get fired from her actions.

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Speaker 7: She's freaking out because she's realizing that her actions have consequences.

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Speaker 4: Exactly boooo exactly. I feel she has already punished herself

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Speaker 4: by displaying this messed up behavior to others and losing

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Speaker 4: a lot of respect from coworkers. If we don't ever

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Speaker 4: have to interact with one another, I'm up for that.

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Speaker 4: I have a suspicion that Sarah may have found this

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Speaker 4: post and read it, which I thought I would feel

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Speaker 1: You, let's go.

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Speaker 8: It better be this woman getting transferred or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Update number three. I'm not dropping any of the complaints.

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Speaker 6: Woooo, let's freaking go ef you, Sarah, Sarah, f you.

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Speaker 4: Michelle and I have spoken, and although it started off promising,

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Speaker 6: Of effing every guy from work to get ahead. Oh

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Speaker 4: Uh, that is crazy.

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Speaker 8: That's wild.

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Speaker 4: Now I know where some of those fake office rumors

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Speaker 4: If she's reading this, get professional help immediately. I know

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Speaker 2: Wait, baby Opie and John, Dude, Opie really good. I

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Speaker 8: What do you think John?

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Speaker 8: What's this woman's name? Lucy?

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Speaker 4: She did just say, I know you like dirty, jealous

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think all of it is just it's just

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Speaker 4: days later, HR meeting call with supervisor went well. The

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Speaker 8: Boom get roasted, Sarah can roasted.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, you can't just make you can't just make, you know,

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Speaker 4: Exactly the phone call we had after the video team meeting,

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Speaker 4: Luckily, I don't think they believed her on this point,

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Speaker 4: She's still adamant that I bullied and threatened her and

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Speaker 7: What whatever, dude, what even is this wor whatever?

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Speaker 4: I've been reassured that there was no wrongdoing on my part,

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Speaker 4: I wasn't the first to complain about her. Oh wow.

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Speaker 4: Some people were confused as to why I had considered

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Speaker 6: I stepped away to talk.

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Speaker 4: His little smile was adorable. Despite the misery at work

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Speaker 4: me has been incredibly reassuring, and we've now set up

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Speaker 4: and I'm taking steps to manage my anxieties and put

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Speaker 7: My friend dropped to me one day before her wedding.

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Speaker 7: Now I'm considering filing a case.

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Speaker 4: Oo, well does she drop and then boot you?

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Speaker 7: I was dropped as a bridesmaid just two hours after

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Speaker 7: B asked me and Ali to be bride'smaids when B

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Speaker 7: During nursing school, and Ali and B graduated together since

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Speaker 1: And we were all happy for Bee.

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Speaker 7: By the way, this comes from user no Tangerine two

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Speaker 7: thousand and one, and if you want to submit your

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Speaker 7: I'm Dakota and I'm Angie, I'm Rollin, and we are

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Speaker 7: here to give you good advice.

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Speaker 1: Goofully.

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Speaker 7: Oh, you don't have all the answers. You only know

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Speaker 7: you know, just let us know. In the comments op

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Speaker 7: says the trouble started when I couldn't make the rehearsal

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Speaker 1: It was the her date in a row.

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Speaker 7: I texted Bee apologizing and confirmed i'd make it to

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Speaker 4: The bride is like a host of that thing, Like

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Speaker 7: Why are we making our own wedding more difficult?

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Speaker 7: Her mom welcomed me, and when I went to say

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Speaker 1: But then it's like.

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Speaker 7: It's also supposed to be one of your closest friends.

444
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 7: It's like, by the way, if one of your closest

445
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 7: friends is wants your services, they should pay you for sure,

446
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 7: because they're your friend.

447
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,160
Speaker 4: For sure, I could understand. I guess. Yeah, I forgot

448
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,639
Speaker 4: they were like close whatever. Everything that I've heard so

449
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 4: far doesn't seem like they're close, so I forgot about it.

450
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder what is where is this coming from?

451
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, she think you and Ali like conspired the answer

452
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Speaker 7: or something like, but Allie's sick, you're all nurses.

453
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't understand what Opie says.

454
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 7: I was shocked, set and hurt. I don't know what

455
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 7: I did wrong. I don't think you did anything wrong. Ali,

456
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 7: b and me all communicated in a group text. It

457
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 7: seems like Ali is still invited. She's gonna come over

458
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 7: to have my makeup artists glamour up, and I'm going

459
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 7: to be doing her hair. We think there's a chance

460
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 7: Ali might get turned away at the door.

461
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm confused.

462
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 7: Can someone point out what I did wrong? I got

463
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 7: home at ten am today. The venue is about forty

464
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 7: minutes away in a different town. They got a hotel

465
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 7: in the city for their out of town guests. The

466
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 7: hotel is really nice, upscale, and there's more to see

467
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 7: and do the venue town doesn't have nice hotel options.

468
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 7: The rehearsal was at one PM. I work overnight shifts

469
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 7: that typically last twelve to thirteen hours. I'm new to nights,

470
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 7: so please take that into consideration, especially if you work

471
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 7: those shifts consecutively. And for those who keep asking about uber,

472
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 7: I can't afford it at the moment. I had a

473
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 7: big expense when my dog passed away this month.

474
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm sorry.

475
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,199
Speaker 7: And in regards to the nursing job, I'm new to

476
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 7: working nights. It's really hard on your body to adjust.

477
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 7: I've had an accident in the past because of sleep deprivation.

478
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 7: I don't want to pass away or hurt someone because

479
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 7: of my sleep deprivation.

480
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: Also, i am a new grad.

481
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 7: December was my transition period nights with my preceptive. Very

482
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 7: early on I was denied the day off. I asked

483
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 7: my manager again and she agreed to allow me to

484
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 7: have the day, but was very stern in informing me

485
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 7: that December we have blackout dates and that I would

486
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 7: be working the day before the wedding. To be fair,

487
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 7: since I'm a new nurse, I'm not able to do

488
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 7: my schedule period till I'm off orientation. I'm able to

489
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 7: pick days this new schedule cycle January through February. Since

490
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 7: I'll be without a preceptor and on my own regards

491
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 7: to rides, me and my husband work opposite schedules.

492
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Speaker 1: My son is on school break as well.

493
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Speaker 7: He's ten finances, I've spent a lot of money in

494
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 7: time to be a part of this wedding. Right now,

495
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 7: I'm financially tight with unexpected expenses, like my dog passing away.

496
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Speaker 1: At A Number one, Ali didn't get turned away.

497
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 7: She sent me a text that Bee was excited and

498
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 7: acting bubbly like nothing happened. She thinks it was probably

499
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 7: the maid of honor who influenced b Ali thinks we

500
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 7: could still talk things out, but I don't think so.

501
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 7: The damage is done. At A Number two, they had

502
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 7: on the itinerary that rehearsal was at eleven thirty. Ali

503
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 7: got there late, maybe eleven twenty instead of eleven. They

504
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 7: had an early rehearsal without her, so she missed it.

505
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 7: They said she's fine and everyone was bubbly and happy.

506
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 7: I'm starting to think it's me. I'm on the thicker

507
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 7: side and ten years older than the rest of the bridesmaids.

508
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: Maybe it's my insecurities.

509
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 7: Every text I sent her was including me and Ali

510
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 7: since we're getting everything done together, and when the bride

511
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 7: asked questions. At at number three, b is kind of

512
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 7: ocd on some things. I know she wanted an even

513
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 7: number of grooms and brides. There's an even number now, ah.

514
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 7: I know that might have been a stresser. One of

515
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 7: our friends from nursing decided not to go to the

516
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 7: wedding and came over to cheer me up. I encouraged

517
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 7: her to go still, but she didn't like the way

518
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 7: this went down and lost respect for b Okay. At

519
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 7: at number four, Ali's boyfriend just texted me that my

520
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 7: name is still on the guest list in the event.

521
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 7: At number five, I did the cost calculation of the

522
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 7: basic stuff I spent money on and it came out

523
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 7: to five hundred and forty eight bucks.

524
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: I sent a.

525
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 7: Vemo request and a text I'm blocked, so I'm not surprised.

526
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,719
Speaker 7: I might take it to small claims or maybe not.

527
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 7: If anything else happens, I'll update. Thank you everyone for

528
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 7: the comments. You need to take it to small claims,

529
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 7: that'd be great. You get this on Judge Judy.

530
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 4: I mean, do you think she'd be able to if

531
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 4: they didn't have a contract.

532
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 7: I don't know.

533
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: Judy will have to decide.

534
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 4: Judy, let us know. Jitter on the pod.

535
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 7: You miss she would, Judy, you've done it again?

536
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 4: At it again? Actually, I don't think it would.

537
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: We do have an update?

538
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 4: What are we gonna find out?

539
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 6: We're going to court?

540
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 4: Oh?

541
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 1: Oh? I think think so.

542
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 7: First off, thanks for all sharing your opinions and for

543
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 7: being encouraging. So I sent them a request on Venmo

544
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 7: a while back. Kind of forgot about it. The bride

545
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 7: just sent me a long email basically stating she invested

546
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 7: money in me, and then I owe her what for?

547
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 7: Whatuan invited me from your wedding?

548
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: Dumbass?

549
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 6: Yeah? I owe you nothing.

550
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's this about? What's this about?

551
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 1: Her reasoning is special?

552
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 7: Let me just say that I was going to leave

553
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 7: it alone, but after she stated I owed her, my

554
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 7: feelings changed.

555
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: I will update again in the future. Update too.

556
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Please tell us what she thinks you

557
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 4: owe her for.

558
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 7: Please, I'm considering filing a small claims case against the bride.

559
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 7: I would like to know your experiences and how things

560
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,479
Speaker 7: ended up. We have comments comment one. I'm no lawyer,

561
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 7: but your other posts said you agreed to cover the

562
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 7: expense of the hair extension as a gift. In exchange,

563
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 7: she agreed you could use some of her wedding photos

564
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 7: to promote yourself. But then when you were ready to

565
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 7: apply the extensions, bride didn't answer and her maid of

566
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 7: honor told you you were from the wedding. So you

567
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 7: still have the extensions and didn't apply them to her right.

568
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 7: So unless you've got it in writing that she was

569
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 7: supposed to pay you back for the extensions themselves, either

570
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 7: in cash or in the monetary equivalent of some other

571
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 7: goods and services, I think you'll have a hard time winning.

572
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 7: She wasn't able to benefit from your service. She didn't

573
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 7: actually get the extensions you made, which is why there's

574
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 7: no photos of your work for you to use.

575
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: It sounds like that was the extent of your agreement.

576
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 7: I understand you bought them specifically for her, and that

577
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 7: hair extensions aren't really a thing you can return her refund,

578
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 7: But since you said this was a gift and you

579
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 7: still have them, this sounds like it'd be a difficult

580
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 7: case to win.

581
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: And that's the end of that story.

582
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 4: My friend exposed my secret because I didn't agree to

583
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 4: what she wanted.

584
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 7: She exposed yourself as a nasty little goblin lady.

585
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 4: So Joyce and I were best friends for ten years.

586
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 4: She was the sister I had ever had, and she

587
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 4: came from a really bad home life, so she unofficially

588
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 4: joined our family, even spending some Christmases at my mom's

589
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 4: with me. By the way, this comes from El Drama Lama,

590
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 4: and if you want to submit your own stories, go

591
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 4: to the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. And I'm Angie,

592
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 4: I'm Dakota, I'm Riley, and we're here to give good

593
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 4: advice goofily, but we don't have all the answers. We're

594
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 4: just gonna guess what we would do in this situation.

595
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 4: So let us know what you would do in the comments.

596
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 4: So Op says we met at my high school job

597
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,239
Speaker 4: when I was seventeen. We hit it off immediately, and

598
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 4: she offered me a Starbucks and declined my offer to

599
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 4: pay her back. It sounds silly, but that's how an

600
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 4: amazing friendship started. In ten years, we somehow never really

601
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 4: had a disagreement, and maybe that's the reason I never

602
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 4: saw what happened coming. Last year, Joyce and her fiance

603
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 4: got pregnant and everyone was beyond ecstatic. She immediately asked

604
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: me to be the godmother. I planned their entire gender reveal.

605
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 4: We planned her baby shower together, and she asked me

606
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 4: to be her birthroom photographer. When a little baby Aar

607
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 4: was born, it was hands down the most beautiful experience

608
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 4: of my life. Right before the birth, I had a

609
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 4: planned trip. During this trip, I got some perspective I

610
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 4: didn't know I needed. I had been in a two

611
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 4: plus year relationship with a wonderful man who had an

612
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 4: engagement ring purchased, but the time apart made me realize

613
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 4: that we really shouldn't get married. I decided to end

614
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: things upon my return. During the trip, my mom was

615
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 4: dealing with the impending passing of her father and we

616
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 4: got into a terrible fight where she said some pretty

617
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 4: nasty things. So, in addition to losing my romantic relationship,

618
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 4: I was also grappling with the loss of a parental relationship.

619
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 4: I was an absolute mess. I was thirty pounds underweight.

620
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 4: It was a dark time. Joyce and I had always

621
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 4: made a habit of stace with each other during dark times.

622
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 4: I went to her house just a few days before

623
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 4: she gave birth and pretty much just slept the entire time.

624
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 4: I was jet lagged by fifteen hours. We veged and

625
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 4: eventually I went back home. She gave birth and things

626
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 4: were good. After a few months, she and her fiance

627
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 4: started looking towards their wedding. They chose a date in

628
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 4: early twenty twenty. She had already asked me to be

629
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: her maid of honor pre pregnancy, but now the excitement

630
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 4: was in full swing. There was something else in full

631
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 4: swing too, though, postpartum depression.

632
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 5: Ah that old thing.

633
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: She was handling it well, but it was definitely coloring interactions.

634
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 4: The wedding gave her something happy to focus on. She

635
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 4: chose a destination wedding in Hawaii. Around this time, my

636
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 4: mom sent her baby gifts and she texted me saying

637
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: that she wanted to be respectful of the falling out

638
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 4: my mom and I were having. She asked me if

639
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 4: I would mind if she called her or saw her.

640
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 4: My exact words were, I absolutely don't mind at all.

641
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 4: She's my mom, We will fix things. All I ask

642
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: is that you make it about you two and don't

643
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 4: bring me up at all. And she's sneaky and manipulative,

644
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 4: so please please just leave any mentions she may make

645
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 4: at look, I really don't want to get involved, but

646
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 4: hopefully you guys patch things up soon. She immediately agreed

647
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: and emphasized that she would never cross that line. The

648
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 4: months go by and I've still heard nothing from my mom.

649
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 4: I've decided that there's nothing tying me to the area,

650
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: no parents, no relationships. I'm ready for a fresh start.

651
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 4: I make plans to move within the next twelve months.

652
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 4: I also wanted to backpack long term around the world.

653
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: In this time, I also started dating someone casually, a

654
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 4: woman named Rose. I had always known I was by

655
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: but I never had actually dated a woman. There was

656
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 4: a very specific reason my ex boyfriend and I had

657
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 4: not worked out.

658
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: Now.

659
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 4: While chatting with Joyce about my wedding planning or about

660
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 4: wedding planning, I mentioned flying in for her wedding and

661
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 4: how I wonder where I'll be, But her reaction is, wait,

662
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 4: that's after the wedding though, right, I'm confused. No, the

663
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 4: wedding is two years away. A few days later, she

664
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 4: sends me a lengthy text asking how I expect to

665
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: be made of honor if I don't even live in town,

666
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 4: how could I possibly help plan the wedding from so

667
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 4: far away. I respond that lots of best friends are

668
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 4: another's made of honor while living in different places. Also,

669
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 4: the wedding is in Hawaii, so isn't everyone planning from

670
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 4: a distance? Yeah?

671
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, what now everyone lives in Hawaii?

672
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think this girl does.

673
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: Aloha alohai, here you go. Who's in the ocean?

674
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 4: My nama na, I say I would respect whatever choice

675
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 4: she thought was best. I explicitly asked if she expected

676
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 4: me to put my life on hold for the two years.

677
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 4: She basically says, if I want to be her maid

678
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 4: of honor, then yes. She asks if I'll be flying

679
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 4: out for the wedding in early twenty twenty and the

680
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 4: bachelorette party.

681
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 6: I tell her, of course.

682
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 4: Then she drops the no. The bachelorette party is in

683
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 4: Vegas summer of twenty nineteen. I had not heard about

684
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 4: any of this, I tell her, Joyce, even if I

685
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: didn't move, I could not afford two separate vacations six

686
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 4: months apart. But I promise you I would not miss

687
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 4: your wedding for the world, and I'll help plan absolutely everything.

688
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 4: She totally snaps and asks me what the point of

689
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: having a maid of honor was, who couldn't even come

690
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 4: to any wedding events. I respond that I love her,

691
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 4: I would be honored to be her maid of honor,

692
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 4: but if she wanted to ask someone else, then it

693
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 4: was her wedding and I would respect that. She texts

694
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 4: me a few days later, saying she asked her cousin

695
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 4: to be her maid of honor, so then she did.

696
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 4: She went ahead and got a different one. Look at that.

697
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: Look at that. It's almost like you could have just

698
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: done that the whole time.

699
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, my feelings were pretty hurt, but I had told

700
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: her that I was okay with it. Then one day

701
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 4: she posts on Facebook that her and her fiance eloped.

702
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 7: Oh look at that after all that bullshit, Yeah you're

703
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 7: gonna do it a love bit, dude.

704
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 4: I I was floored that she hadn't even shared that

705
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,479
Speaker 4: with me, that they were doing it at all. And

706
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 4: I find out through Facebook before I can text her anything,

707
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 4: she texts me, I saw your mom today. Just wanted

708
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 4: to let you know. I'm stunned. That was three plus

709
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 4: months ago, so I felt like a heads up prior

710
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: would have been respectful, and this text was just so rude.

711
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 4: The conversation goes, oh, that's interesting.

712
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: Oh why is that?

713
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,479
Speaker 4: Oh that was just a generic response. Hell well, I

714
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 4: almost texted sorry to hear it, but it didn't want

715
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 4: to be mean.

716
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: Well I figured it wasn't a big deal.

717
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 4: It's not thank you for texting me. Yep, And five

718
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 4: minutes later, Hey, can.

719
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 7: You give me a huge favor when my old best

720
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 7: friend comes back down to earth, the one that I've known,

721
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 7: trusted and respected for the last decade, give her the

722
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 7: memo I love to catch up fakes.

723
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 4: Dude, I don't want to fight, but that could not

724
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 4: have been more unnecessary that I ended up just calling her. Yeah,

725
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 4: that's a crazy thing to say with Shane.

726
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 6: That's so crazy. She's much softer.

727
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 4: On the phone, and I find out that she invited

728
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 4: my mom to celebrate her elopement. But you invided my

729
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 4: mom and on me all thought we were the ones

730
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 4: that were friends. Huh, what's some of.

731
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 7: That stinky little rotten alive?

732
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 4: That's so weird. I'm trying so hard keep it together.

733
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 4: She then starts telling me that I need to call

734
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 4: my mom, and she explains how sad the situation was

735
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 4: making my mom.

736
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: What what does your mom have to do with any

737
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: of this?

738
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Opie literally says, stop what Why would I have

739
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 4: been discussed in any capacity?

740
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 6: That was my one request?

741
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 4: And then this girl says, oh, well, she just wanted

742
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 4: to know how you were doing it, and.

743
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: It's I forgot. That is strange.

744
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 4: Mother, you have a rough relationship, so Opie says, then

745
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: she can call me Joyce. But she says she thinks

746
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 4: you don't want.

747
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 6: To talk to her, Joyce.

748
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 4: I don't need to explain my relationship with my mom

749
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 4: to you. She played you like I said she would. Dude,

750
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 4: you weren't there.

751
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 5: She's so sad.

752
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 4: Well, she needs to figure her crap out, and you

753
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: need to stay out of mind. She keeps protesting when

754
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 4: I have a horrible realization. You did not tell her

755
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 4: about Rose? Did you long long silence? Well, I did know.

756
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 5: It was a secret.

757
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 4: I finally lost it. It's not a secret. My dad

758
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 4: knows about Rose. My coworkers know about Rose. People who

759
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 4: care about me know about Rose. My mom is not

760
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 4: one of those people. And I so explicitly told her

761
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 4: to not mention me at all. If she saw my

762
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 4: mom first, I'm screaming at her. Then I'm crying. I've

763
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 4: never felt more betrayed and violated. She immediately realizes exactly

764
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 4: how bad she eft up and starts backtracking. I just

765
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: tell her I can't handle her right now, and I

766
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,720
Speaker 4: had to go. I sat on my garage floor crying

767
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 4: for hours. Everyone agrees that she did what she did

768
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 4: because she had an axe to grind with me over

769
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 4: the wedding stuff. It wasn't an accident. She just regretted

770
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 4: it immediately.

771
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, she just regretted blowing up her entire friendship permanently

772
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 7: with you.

773
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

774
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 4: Wow, wow, wow. That's the least you could do is

775
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 4: regret it. I texted her that I needed some space.

776
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 4: A few days later, she says she needs space too.

777
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: Oh shut up, So she's going to unfriend me on

778
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 4: all social media, right thanks. A few weeks later, she

779
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 4: messages me saying she wanted to see if we could

780
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 4: make good. I sent her a lengthy message saying our

781
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 4: friendship was never not good to me, but her actions

782
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 4: were so out of line and unacceptable, and I never

783
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 4: got a real apology aside from her yelling I'm sorry,

784
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Well, I was hyperventilating.

785
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,959
Speaker 4: She sends me back a scathing message saying all kinds

786
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 4: of super fed up things about what a horrible friend

787
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 4: I had been. One of the wrongs that she cited

788
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 4: was the weekend I stayed with her after the breakup

789
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 4: and how you just slept the whole time and barely

790
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 4: even talked to me. It's like, yeah, I wasn't staying

791
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 4: with you to celebrate you. I was staying with you

792
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 4: because I needed help from breaking up with my boyfriend.

793
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 4: It was a hard thing, Okay.

794
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 7: I wish we could have just been like, yeah, you

795
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 7: know what, you're right, let's meet up and then just

796
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 7: ghost her.

797
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

798
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: She deserves it, she does.

799
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 4: She deserves all the ghostings in the world. She told

800
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 4: me I had some of her clothes and to put

801
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 4: them in the mail and blocked me on everything. Oh well,

802
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 4: Rose and I got too serious to stay casual, and

803
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 4: I decided I would relocate with her, and that's what

804
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 4: I did. I had some shoes of joyces that I

805
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 4: dropped her husband's parents' business. Five plus months after our fight.

806
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,959
Speaker 4: I attached a letter thanking her for all the years

807
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 4: of friendship and saying I would always have a place

808
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 4: in my heart for her. Little family. I wished her

809
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 4: well and that was the end of that.

810
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: Or so wide fucked send her to the island?

811
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, which one the one from lost there you go,

812
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 4: that's a good one to send her too. Yeah, she'll

813
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 4: be real confused. Yeah, but anyway, that night I get

814
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 4: a Venmo from her because it was the only thing

815
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 4: that she hadn't blocked me. She sends me six dollars

816
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 4: and says, ten years ago I bought a coffee that

817
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: started a beautiful friendship. Here's another six dollars to buy

818
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 4: another because this is the last crap you'll ever see

819
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 4: from me. F you for dropping off my things with

820
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 4: my in laws, and good riddance wherever the f it

821
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 4: is you. And a few minutes later I get another

822
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 4: ninety nine cents and it says stay away from my family.

823
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 7: Hi. Gotta love her sending a whole thing where it's like,

824
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 7: this is the last thing you'll ever get.

825
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: From me, and then send you another dollar. She's like,

826
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: I forgot to say say or family.

827
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 4: I literally can never tell that part of the story

828
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 4: without laughing. Yeah, that's hilarious. So there's my story about

829
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 4: the worst bridezilla I have ever personally encountered.

830
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 6: To this day.

831
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 4: If anything comes up that reminds us of Joyce, Rose

832
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 4: quietly says, maybe we could send that to her and

833
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 4: get a few more dollars. And that's the end of

834
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 4: that story.

835
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,480
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836
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839
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840
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841
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,160
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844
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 5: feels like a real invasion of my space. Even without

845
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,279
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846
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,400
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847
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,960
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853
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 3: good advice. Goofy, but we don't have all the answers.

854
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,759
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855
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,919
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856
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 3: All the attendees tonight come from our kid's swim team,

857
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: who my wife wants to get to know better. One

858
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 3: of the invitees is also a dad, late thirties with

859
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: the kid on the team, and he's a professor at

860
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 3: the state university in our town.

861
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 5: It's hard to describe him, but I'm sure everyone reading

862
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 5: this has met someone just like him. Despite being a professor,

863
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 5: he's as dumb as a rock, but absolutely loves to

864
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 5: intrude on everyone else's conversation to give his expert opinion.

865
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 5: Ah For example, I was talking with another dad about

866
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 5: wanting to go bow hunting. We were very much minding

867
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 5: our own business and we weren't intruding on anyone else.

868
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 5: I also think we were highly aware that shooting animals

869
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 5: with a flying projectile is not a great talk for

870
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 5: kids swim lesson, so we were well away from the

871
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 5: other parents and kids having our conversation. All of a sudden,

872
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 5: the professor comes up to us, listens for half a second,

873
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 5: and then goes into full lecture mode. About the evils

874
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 5: of the robber barons and the animal flesh corporate complex.

875
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 5: Oh God, God, doesn't seem like that was what they

876
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 5: were talking about at all.

877
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 4: Nope.

878
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 5: I told him that actually that was one of the

879
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 5: reasons I wanted to hunt, because factory farming kind of

880
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 5: grossed me out. He actually held his finger up to

881
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 5: me as if to say and said, I'm sorry, but

882
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 5: I'm an expert in this field. I don't know exactly,

883
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 5: but I believe he's a sociology professor. That's not quite

884
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 5: the same field, buddy. I was stunned and truly speechless.

885
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 5: He began to lecture us about how evil our intentions were,

886
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 5: and thank god, maybe two minutes in the head coach

887
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 5: called for all the parents to come around for a

888
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 5: discussion on the upcoming practice schedule. A practice today. I

889
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 5: sat next to this professor but wasn't part of his group,

890
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 5: and I could hear him talking about the evils of

891
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 5: professional sports, even though he'd been to a pro baseball

892
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 5: game the night prior. But instead of the rest of

893
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 5: the people who were there, who were there as fans,

894
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 5: we went to research the human condition as an impartial observer.

895
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,959
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, there are certain hipster parents who also

896
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 5: have kids on the team that are just in awe

897
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 5: of this guy. But I wanted a puke. It was

898
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 5: perhaps second only in US to animal flesh corporate complex.

899
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 5: What's even worse about what this guy says is the

900
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 5: fact that it's clear that he's not there to discuss.

901
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 5: He's there to lecture, and for the most part, the

902
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 5: parents who are interested in what he thinks just sit

903
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 5: there taking it all in. So this guy and his

904
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 5: wife will be in our house tonight. I'm dreading it.

905
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 5: I mean physically dreading it. My wife is working very

906
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 5: hard to make this dinner successful. But I don't know

907
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 5: how much I can take of this guy. Maybe he

908
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 5: starts getting insulting towards me and other people. At what

909
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 5: point do I speak up? Do I take it to

910
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 5: a full fletched argument if need be, or do I

911
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 5: just keep quiet, letting him dig his own grave? And

912
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 5: most people recognize his duchess for what it is. Maybe

913
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 5: even having an argument is exactly what he's looking for.

914
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 5: And there are some comments, Oh my god, what advice

915
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 5: to ufrop.

916
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 4: Oh, it's just such an awful person. He sucks, Yeah,

917
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 4: like he really just he seems less of a professor

918
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 4: and more like a stereotype like preacher. You absolutely just

919
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 4: like everything is evil and you should not participate. I

920
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 4: don't know. I think you just have to ignore this

921
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 4: kind of person.

922
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: I agree.

923
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 4: I can't change him.

924
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 5: To your question about like, do I start an argument? No, no, no,

925
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 5: this is not the type of guy that is going

926
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 5: to learn anything from an argument.

927
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could make you look bad, especially in your house.

928
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 4: Means yeah, I would be tempted to mess with him,

929
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 4: for sure, But like if you can mess with him

930
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 4: and subtle with yeah, exactly, you can mess with him

931
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 4: in subtle ways, or like, you know, you just don't

932
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 4: want to take it to an extent where it's going

933
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 4: to like ruin everyone's party.

934
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, but some top comments say night owl, I says,

935
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 5: Or do I just keep my quiet, letting him dig

936
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 5: his own grave, et cetera. Do this better to have

937
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 5: this party be remembered as the time we invited that

938
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 5: boring a hole and he was awful then that time

939
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 5: OPI blew up and ruined the party. Let him leave

940
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 5: the ruiner, not you, Eminet says. So this it's not

941
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 5: like anyone is gonna invite him back. Focus on talking

942
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 5: to the people you do like, and on help your

943
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 5: wife with the food. I just have to get something

944
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 5: out of the oven. Is a great reason to walk

945
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 5: away from a boring conversation. A good host, make sure

946
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 5: everyone is a good time. One person clearly doesn't even

947
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 5: want to, so focus on everyone else who came along

948
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 5: to have a fun night with you. After all, this

949
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 5: is about your wife making friends, not you making enemies.

950
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 5: That's a great point, sleep Fight says, what's the point

951
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 5: of arguing with him? Seriously? Just let him talk and

952
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 5: it will quickly become apparent to everyone that this guy

953
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,959
Speaker 5: is a total clown. If he starts on some I'm

954
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 5: very smart, bos smile and nod politely and chuckle about

955
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 5: it later. If he goes on and on, just say, well,

956
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 5: on another note, how about the sport game movie innocuous subject.

957
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 5: If he tries to speak over you, say I wasn't

958
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 5: finished speaking, and calmly continue your point. Standing up for

959
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 5: yourself doesn't automatically mean there's an argument to be had.

960
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 5: If he shushes you say pointedly, that was rude. If

961
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 5: he says he's an expert, you can always say, well,

962
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 5: we can agree to disagree. Take the high road, but

963
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 5: don't make yourself a doormat on the way, and maybe

964
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 5: in the future, just don't invite him. He isn't entitled

965
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 5: to be included just because the rest of the swim

966
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 5: team parents are Pastel Nihilism says this. Just shoot down

967
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 5: everything he says as neutral as possible, dismiss him, or

968
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 5: laugh loudly from a throne, and proclaim that he has

969
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 5: no power here. H Addie Flan again says these are great.

970
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 5: I don't mean a type gasp, but there's got to

971
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 5: be a well spoken english man or woman somewhere who

972
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 5: knows the best ways to stay composed while belittling someone

973
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 5: at a dinner party. It's a British tradition.

974
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: I think those comments were right on. I agree, yeah, definitely.

975
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 4: Just people will see and eventually get the same opinion

976
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 4: as you, or if they do, like talking to him

977
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 4: or listening to him, then Londay, you can talk to

978
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 4: him and listen to him. Yeah, and then you could

979
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 4: do something else. Yeah, so you're fine.

980
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 7: Edit.

981
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 5: Party is winding down and I read through the first

982
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 5: few responses but didn't realize this would blow up so

983
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 5: much the party. He went, Okay, Professor Guy wasn't too

984
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 5: bad at first, but had a couple of drinks and

985
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 5: was in rare form. He didn't realize he had the

986
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 5: wrong crowd and no one was really paying attention to him,

987
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 5: which I think was getting under his skin. The absolute

988
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 5: craziest thing he said all night to a mixed race

989
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 5: mom on the team white African American, was that she

990
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 5: didn't understand the complexities of race in America. Professor as

991
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 5: white as a ghost. He handled it like a real

992
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 5: pro and just let him keep digging his hole. He

993
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 5: refused to shut up, but at that point his wife

994
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 5: had enough and pretty much said it was time to go.

995
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 5: They were the first to leave. It's time to go

996
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 5: decompress with some Fortnite and common one says, Oh my God,

997
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 5: replies says, I know a lot of highly educated people

998
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 5: who are well aware of how stupid they are, especially

999
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 5: people in sciences. The biologist who knows enough about physics

1000
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 5: to know he cannot explain nuclear decay accurately. It is

1001
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 5: the rare breed who thinks their specialty makes them more

1002
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 5: knowledgeable about everything than everyone. Comment two says, Seriously, I'm

1003
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 5: struggling to think of anything ruder than to literally shush

1004
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 5: someone with a finger never mind, kept reading and he

1005
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 5: managed to find something ruder. Honestly, pretty impressive. Another reply says,

1006
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 5: I would literally put my hand on his finger, gently

1007
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 5: put it down, and say we don't do this to

1008
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 5: other adults before anyone gets ay, we don't do that

1009
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 5: to any humans. Really, but this dude sees himself as

1010
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 5: an adult and others as children, and I feel it

1011
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 5: would be more effective. Language reply says, oof, can you

1012
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 5: imagine how we'd respond to being called a child? I'd

1013
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 5: pay to see that tantrum. Comment three says, oh, pee,

1014
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 5: can you host another party where we can all come deal.

1015
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 4: With this guy?

1016
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 5: Covin four says, I love that this guy gave an

1017
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 5: update during the party. A true introvert and that is

1018
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 5: the end of that story.

1019
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 4: Folks. My friend was caught stealing from me, so I

1020
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 4: filed a police report.

1021
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 6: You can't do that.

1022
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 4: We were out to dinner one night at an expensive hotel.

1023
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 4: My boyfriend let me borrow his Canon G seven x

1024
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 4: eighteen hundred camera to bring to take pictures with my friends.

1025
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 4: At the conclusion of the dinner, I went up to

1026
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 4: the room and realized that the camera was gone. It's

1027
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 4: a big thing to smuggle. I went back right down

1028
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 4: to the table and no one had seen it. By

1029
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 4: the way, this comes from Zealous Ideal ear seventy five,

1030
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 4: twenty nine. And if you want to submit your own stories,

1031
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 4: go to the hours last. Okay, story time separate And

1032
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 4: I'm Angie, I'm Sophia, and we're here to give good

1033
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 4: advice goofully, but we don't have all the answers, so

1034
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 4: we're just gonna guess what we would do in this situation.

1035
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 4: Let us know what you would do in the comments,

1036
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 4: so Opie says, I immediately got with hotel security and

1037
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 4: she is on video clear eyes day, swiping the camera

1038
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 4: when my back was turned and shoving it in her purse.

1039
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 5: Fisk tis hello.

1040
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: I covered for her initially with my friend and contacted

1041
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 4: her to find a resolution. She had taken the camera

1042
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 4: with her and my other friends to a club after dinner,

1043
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 4: which I did not attend, and she lost it there.

1044
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 4: Oh oh my gosh.

1045
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 5: That well, so so first she stole it and then

1046
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 5: got it stolen.

1047
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 4: Yeah. For background, this is my good college friend who

1048
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 4: I know well, the camera thief. She has been taken

1049
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 4: on free trips to Coachella and Saint Barth's on my

1050
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 4: dime not kidding, as well as in many other things,

1051
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 4: and we have done a lot together and are good friends,

1052
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 4: so I expected her to feel sorry. Initially, she lied,

1053
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 4: saying that she did not have it. When I told

1054
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 4: her we had a video, she confessed and then said yes,

1055
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 4: she took it, but lost it at the next bar

1056
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 4: that she went to with my other friends. It is

1057
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 4: now gone. I asked her to help me replace it

1058
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 4: by going in on me with the cost. She has

1059
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 4: refused all measures or resolutions, and now I feel like

1060
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 4: I have nothing left to do but file a police

1061
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 4: report and let them handle it.

1062
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is not your friend. I'm sorry the fact

1063
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 5: that you even said we can go on in on

1064
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 5: it together.

1065
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly paying for the whole thing totally.

1066
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 5: It's not like a lamp that she broke in your house.

1067
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 5: This is a camera that's very expensive.

1068
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. It is impacting my relationship, and I'm furious that

1069
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 4: my friend is not helping at all. Why should I

1070
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 4: be on the hook for something that she stole. I

1071
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 4: have given her three weeks to help me resolve this,

1072
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 4: but she insists that she's going to do nothing. I

1073
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 4: am being pressed by my boyfriend to either replace the

1074
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 4: camera or help him file a report with her info

1075
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 4: in the footage. Yeah, because it's his camera, she's borrowing

1076
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 4: it from him.

1077
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1078
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 4: I even asked her to just throw in half or

1079
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 4: less than half the cost to help, but she still refuses.

1080
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 4: I do not want her to get in trouble, but

1081
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,479
Speaker 4: I'm at the point where I feel like she really

1082
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 4: doesn't care. So am I the A hole? And there

1083
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 4: are some comments? But what is your answer?

1084
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 5: You like you would be the a hole if you

1085
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 5: didn't press charges if she's not paying. Yeah, this isn't

1086
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 5: your camera.

1087
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, you're definitely not the a hole. Get that camera.

1088
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 4: Pack that camera. So Vernic from the CA comments are

1089
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 4: not the a hole? But but commentary number one says

1090
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 4: you are the a hole. Is there a reason that

1091
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 4: you were choosing your thieving friend over your boyfriend? She's

1092
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 4: made it clearly she's not your friend and that she's

1093
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 4: not going to make this right. The police report should

1094
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 4: have been filed the moment she said she wasn't going

1095
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 4: to pay for it. If I were your boyfriend, I

1096
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 4: would be reconsidering the relationship with you over this. You're

1097
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 4: really dragging your feet to make this right, get the

1098
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 4: report made, and replace his camera. Opie says, this is

1099
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 4: how I'm starting to feel. You are right, and thank

1100
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 4: you for the honest words. I just hate to get

1101
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 4: anyone in trouble. I think I may be the a

1102
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 4: hole because if I wanted to, I could have paid

1103
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 4: out of pocket and resolved it for everyone. That's not

1104
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 4: why you're the a hole. It's not your hole, your responsibility.

1105
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 5: I think that commentary is a little bit harsh. I

1106
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 5: just said you might would be, but that's just to

1107
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 5: get the ball rolling. I don't think you are a whole.

1108
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 5: I think you, you know, just totally get your friend

1109
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 5: in trouble right.

1110
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 4: Commentar number two says you are the a hole. Not

1111
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 4: even sure why you're asking. I have rarely seen a

1112
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 4: post with or a holish behavior on here.

1113
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 5: Okay, well you haven't read a lot of posts.

1114
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've seen it a lot. You are an a

1115
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 4: hole to your boyfriend. Kind guy trusted you with something

1116
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 4: valuable and you're not even giving him all the information

1117
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 4: you have after it got swiped. You brought your ahole

1118
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 4: friend to this dinner. You are an ale for not

1119
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 4: filing report. You are an ale to yourself for not

1120
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 4: holding this effing friend accountable. What the heck do you

1121
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 4: mean throwing in half? Get your head out of your

1122
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 4: butt and go file a report. Make sure your boyfriend

1123
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 4: is made whole. Be utterly embarrassed with your own behavior here,

1124
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 4: and do better next time. Yikes, that's a harsh comment.

1125
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 4: I don't disagree that, like, yeah, she should be doing

1126
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 4: those things, but it's just a very harsh way to say.

1127
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 4: Opie says. I know. I just didn't want to get

1128
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 4: her in trouble. I feel like I could have paid

1129
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 4: for it myself and resolved for everyone. She is also

1130
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 4: in our friend group we have had forever, and it

1131
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 4: will cause ripples. Opie clarifies on the location of the

1132
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 4: security cameras after realifeing his boyfriend's camera was missing. Once

1133
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 4: OPI went up to his room, Opie says, wrong, I

1134
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 4: went up to my room where my boyfriend was. He

1135
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 4: asked where his camera was. I went right down to

1136
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 4: the salon where we were eating, and it was gone,

1137
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 4: so no staff had seen it after clearing our table.

1138
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 4: This is what prompted me to have security check the cameras,

1139
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 4: which they had in the dining room. Additional information from ope.

1140
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 4: After reading some comments, Opie says, I feel guilty because

1141
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 4: I gave her time to fix it and she made

1142
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 4: me look like an idiot. I also feel guilty because

1143
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 4: I know if I could swing it right now. Because

1144
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 4: I know if I could swing it right now, I

1145
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 4: would have replaced it myself. I just cannot at this

1146
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 4: moment to buy a two thousand dollars camera. Yeah, yeah,

1147
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 4: makes sense.

1148
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 5: That's also you know she can get a lot of

1149
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 5: trouble for that.

1150
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. I sent her a text this morning telling her

1151
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 4: if I do not receive the full cost of the

1152
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 4: camera or shipping confirmation of a new camera from an

1153
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 4: approved vendor to provided address by the end of the

1154
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 4: day Friday, we will be fine. Report with the police

1155
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 4: on Saturday morning. I felt like an a hole typing

1156
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 4: this out to her, but I have to do it.

1157
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 4: And there are some comments. Commentrore number one says, why

1158
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 4: would you even borrow this camera? To begin with? A

1159
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 4: G seven X is a glorified point and shoot camera

1160
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 4: at the cost of eighteen hundred dollars. Why wouldn't you

1161
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 4: just use your cell phone? I know this isn't the point,

1162
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 4: but you borrowed something expensive and then lost it around

1163
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 4: people you can't trust, and it wasn't something you even

1164
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 4: needed to use. Opie says, yes, you're right. In my defence,

1165
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 4: I borrowed it from the hotel room we were in

1166
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 4: to meet them at the hotel restaurant. I never intended

1167
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 4: to leave property with it. Boyfriend stayed in the room

1168
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 4: upstairs when I went to meet the friends. I was

1169
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 4: thinking I could take a few picks on it and

1170
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 4: bring it back upstairs when I was done. Commentore number

1171
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 4: two says, Wow, your update makes you even more of

1172
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 4: an a hole.

1173
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 6: These comments are so hard.

1174
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 4: Oh geez, just go to the police station and file

1175
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 4: a report.

1176
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 6: That's what he's doing.

1177
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 4: You are going to keep giving her a line to

1178
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 4: hang out with you. Don't be surprised when you're a

1179
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 4: boyfriend dumps you after he has made a hole for

1180
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 4: the cost of the camera. Oh my gosh. Opie says,

1181
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 4: I did that because I had a feeling it would

1182
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 4: be resolved if I made it clear that action would

1183
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 4: be taken one way or the other. Comment to number

1184
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 4: three says, my take is that the friend stole the

1185
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 4: camera because she wanted it, not just to take a

1186
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 4: few extra picks. After Opie went home as she claimed.

1187
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 4: She didn't lose it as she first claimed. In my opinion,

1188
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 4: she still has it even after all the drama that's

1189
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 4: already happened. Police is what that girl deserves and needs.

1190
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 4: That's actually a good point point. I do think about that.

1191
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 4: That's so possible because there was actually another story that

1192
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 4: we read where someone took like a purse to somewhere

1193
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 4: and was like, oh, it's I lost it. And then

1194
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 4: it turns out it was like in her bag.

1195
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 5: So maybe she didn't lose it.

1196
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Opie says, this is starting to feel what it is.

1197
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 4: I do not know if you are familiar, but this camera,

1198
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 4: even at full price, is out of stock. Oh wow,

1199
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 4: girls covet it because it is known as the best

1200
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 4: Instagram camera. I think she took it and hoped I

1201
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 4: would replace it. Oh my god. On the opinion that

1202
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 4: Opie should be making this up to her boyfriend, Opi says,

1203
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 4: I bought him some golden Goose shoes, dinner, and some clothes.

1204
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 4: I feel awful. I am glad this happened. I am

1205
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 4: done being used by my friends. And we do have

1206
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 4: a second update. This is the same day, but just

1207
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 4: three hours later from the last update. She told me

1208
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 4: that she is sick of me, and then I will

1209
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 4: be receiving a tracking number by a twelve Eastern on Friday,

1210
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 4: and not to blame her if the package is never received. Okay,

1211
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 4: that's not a great way to start out that promise.

1212
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 5: She's just like, I'm getting you your breaking camera. Yeah,

1213
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 5: not come though.

1214
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm giving you a confirmation number, but I'm going

1215
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 4: to cancel it before it like what I told her,

1216
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 4: If she was my real friend, she would be sorry.

1217
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 4: And in no way will I allow this to be

1218
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 4: flipped on me. Should I ask if the camera is

1219
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 4: new or the one that quote disappeared? And we do

1220
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 4: have a third up date, which is the next day.

1221
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 5: I wonder if it's gonna be the same camera.

1222
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. Honestly, like I feel like you shouldn't even get

1223
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 4: a confirmation number. I feel like you should order it

1224
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 4: and just ask for her card info at this point.

1225
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 5: Like the thing is, I don't know if she would

1226
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 5: actually give that.

1227
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 4: She probably wouldn't because that, you know, could be skeedy

1228
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 4: to like share that info with anyone, even if it's

1229
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 4: your friend. But like, I just feel like she would

1230
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 4: cancel it, and I want, ok to not have the

1231
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 4: or to make sure that she can't cancel the order. Yeah,

1232
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 4: you know. Anyway, Update number three This is the next day,

1233
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 4: so she sent me a tracking number via FedEx. It

1234
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 4: says that it is awaiting the package. I've asked her

1235
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 4: repeatedly if she's sending me the original camera, assuming it

1236
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 4: magically turned up, or a new one. She refuses to

1237
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 4: answer and only tells me to stop bothering her. A

1238
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 4: bad friend, bad friend, boo boo. Yeah, we do have

1239
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 4: a fourth update. This is the same day, ten hours later.

1240
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 4: Oh he is on it.

1241
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you.

1242
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 4: I am more and more convinced than my friend. The

1243
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 4: camera thief took the camera hoping that I would just

1244
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 4: replace it for my boyfriend, gifting her a free camera

1245
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 4: for background. This friend is heavily involved on Instagram and

1246
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 4: loves taking pictures. The Canon G seven is coveted by

1247
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 4: women because it is known as the Instagram camera. Even

1248
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 4: if you wanted to buy one at full price, they

1249
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 4: are out of stock everywhere. Let's hope it gets returned.

1250
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 4: With this tracking, FedEx still says they're waiting the package,

1251
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 4: even though shipping info was sent to them at seven

1252
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 4: pm yesterday and we have an update number five this

1253
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 4: is five days later.

1254
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 5: Dude, I hope you get this camera me too.

1255
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 4: Also, it would be so stupid if she like actually

1256
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 4: kept it for herself, because then she would post pictures

1257
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 4: of using the camera.

1258
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, it'd be like, that's those are really nice pictures.

1259
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: Right.

1260
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 4: So now update number four this is five days later.

1261
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 4: Original camera returned via FedEx the other day.

1262
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 5: Okay, well, well, well I thought you lost that camera.

1263
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 4: It has been back to the boyfriend. However, the camera

1264
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 4: thief blocked me on all socials after this. Honestly, yeah,

1265
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 4: it appeared that she was trying to keep the camera

1266
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 4: for herself and expected me to just buy a new

1267
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 4: one for the boyfriend. Yep, seems like what it was. Yes,

1268
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 4: or well, I'm glad it worked. Not glad that all

1269
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 4: those comments were so harsh.

1270
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 5: And also, you know, would you have gotten that camera

1271
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 5: back if you have filed the police you know, yeah,

1272
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 5: the same condition, right. It seems like your way worked.

1273
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, you I did exactly what you should what

1274
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 4: the commenters were suggesting, like, yeah, you just threatened her

1275
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 4: with the police report and then she fixes it. I

1276
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 4: feel like that helps with small matters as this. Also,

1277
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 4: like the police report takes so long, and yeah, just

1278
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 4: not all. It doesn't always go anywhere. So this worked out,

1279
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 4: It works so well, so good job. Glad you don't

1280
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 4: have that friend anymore because she sucks. And that's the

1281
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 4: end of this story. We're going on to the next one.

1282
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,280
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Speaker 5: I refuse to reconcile with an old friend, even though

1286
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 5: it would make everyone happy.

1287
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Speaker 3: give good advice.

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Speaker 5: Goofily, but we don't have all the answers. We only

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00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,480
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Speaker 5: encouraged me to come record on their label. Jeff was

1307
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 5: an awesome pianist and budding music producer, and he co

1308
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 5: owned a label with Medusa sixty female who several colleagues

1309
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 5: of mine had released tunes with. Meduce is a sick name,

1310
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 5: it really is. Cecilia was also releasing two songs, and

1311
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 5: our listening party would debut our songs at the same

1312
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 5: time and we would share a release date. I had

1313
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 5: a few songs ready, and I had released a decent

1314
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 5: amount of music with multiple with multiple DJs worldwide. I

1315
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 5: knew how distribution worked, and I knew how much things

1316
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 5: were supposed to cost. I thought it would be fun

1317
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 5: to record and produce with friends, so I signed a

1318
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 5: contract to release two songs with them. I am business minded,

1319
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 5: and since there was a contract. I treated this as

1320
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 5: separate from the band and its gigs, even though some

1321
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 5: of the same people overlapped. What that meant to me

1322
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 5: was that anything regarding the label was between the record

1323
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 5: label owner and the producer was thinking that was their

1324
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 5: point of view too. The track built off my composition

1325
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 5: was terrible, and when the producer, who was our pianist

1326
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 5: in the band told me it would take extra time

1327
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 5: time he would have to charge me for we were

1328
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 5: nowhere near what I wanted. I had to pay twice

1329
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 5: the quoted amount because they were my revisions. I hated

1330
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 5: my songs. I thought the production value was terrible, and

1331
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 5: I thought I was taking crazy bills. I emailed the

1332
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 5: producer and the label owner, trying to play nice and

1333
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 5: save feelings. Both gaslt me and tried to tell me

1334
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 5: I was wrong and that Jeff is a very experienced

1335
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 5: producer and knows what he's doing. I knew it wasn't good,

1336
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 5: and more importantly, the record label was going to set

1337
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 5: up a listening party where tons of people would come

1338
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 5: to hear the songs. I tried to politely say the

1339
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 5: songs weren't ready to be heard yet, as the process

1340
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 5: wasn't complete, and I didn't feel comfortable letting people hear

1341
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 5: unfinished work. There were a lot of size and reactions

1342
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 5: from Medusa and Jeff size of exasperation, and the owner

1343
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 5: still doubled down on jeff skills being good enough. And

1344
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 5: then I needed to realize that I have no need

1345
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 5: to be right most of the time, but I was

1346
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 5: not about to let my songs be released in the

1347
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 5: state they were in. I asked my multi billboard charting

1348
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 5: producer Lionel on the opposite coast, to listen to the

1349
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 5: tunes and tell me his honest feedback. Maybe I really

1350
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 5: was wrong, he would tell me. Lionel wrote back and disbelief.

1351
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 5: He said these tunes aren't even close to industry ready

1352
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 5: and included a long, kind and constructive paragraph about what

1353
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 5: was missing and what the track needed. My hand on

1354
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 5: a bible in court. The paragraph was constructive, and the

1355
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 5: only reason I got his opinion was because I wasn't

1356
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 5: being heard and validated at the current label. I also

1357
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 5: want to say that sometimes a product isn't good or

1358
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 5: needs improvement, and I was trying to address that professionally

1359
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 5: so we could all get what we wanted. I sent

1360
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 5: Lionel's feedback to the producer and the label owner with

1361
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 5: a link to his website showing him working with share Sylvester,

1362
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 5: Martha Wash and everyone under the sun.

1363
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:03,479
Speaker 4: Wow.

1364
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 5: I was business minded and my objective was to not

1365
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 5: have my songs played at the party less than a

1366
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 5: week away. Yeah, you don't want to play stuff that's

1367
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 5: not good, no, at least good in your opinion.

1368
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 4: Exactly, and especially if you got this second opinion on

1369
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 4: it too. The clearly a successful person yea.

1370
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, so about yourself, I think you know, and these

1371
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 5: are you know, your quote unquote children to not let

1372
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 5: people you know walk all over you, exactly. I wrote

1373
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 5: something in the email professionally along the lines of please

1374
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 5: hear what Lionel has to say and understand. I align

1375
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 5: with his thinking and this is the reason I don't

1376
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 5: want the tunes heard yet. Panties and a bunch. Jeff

1377
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 5: didn't take the feedback well and didn't handle it well either.

1378
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 5: He never wanted to talk or have any conversation. Hating

1379
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 5: me was easier away from the recording studio. The band

1380
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 5: hatchfordhearse and we met at a club downtown during the day.

1381
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 5: My ex husband, I was married at the time to

1382
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 5: forty three mail and I head to rehearsal. My ex

1383
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 5: was the videographer and content manager, so he had every

1384
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 5: right to be there and had been at every rehearsal. Ever,

1385
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 5: I walked in and had no idea that Jeff was

1386
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 5: at the piano. Pissed, he ripped Mike's head off, threw

1387
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 5: him out, and it was so cruel and mean.

1388
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 4: Gosh.

1389
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 5: I had to do the whole rehearsal with no answers,

1390
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 5: with Jeff treating me like crap and acting like a

1391
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 5: little child, while my ex husband sat outside. The whole

1392
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 5: band was uncomfortable, and nothing was said, nothing was explained.

1393
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 5: We left rehearsal hurt and upset. Cecilia asked Jeff what

1394
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 5: that was about, and he told her about the email

1395
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 5: with the feedback from Lionel and what was said. Fast

1396
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 5: forward a few weeks, Jeff barely acknowledges me at rehearsal,

1397
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 5: and I've now had to pay Lionel seven hundred dollars

1398
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 5: to make the tracks industry ready, aka fix Jeff's tracks.

1399
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 5: Now they could be played at the listening party, but

1400
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 5: Jeff wasn't talking to me. Me and the band went

1401
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 5: on break the listening party happened. The label took credit

1402
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 5: for tracks that Lionel and I had cut and pasted

1403
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 5: together across the country. I thought time might take the

1404
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 5: edge off. But a month later, I'm at the dog park.

1405
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 5: Lots of people are around, people I know since it's

1406
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,439
Speaker 5: my neighborhood. I have three dogs and we all kind

1407
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 5: of know each other. Cecilia happens to be walking the

1408
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 5: park at the same time. She sees me, basically tells

1409
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 5: her husband to hold her coat, and she verbally beerates

1410
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 5: me in front of every single person. That's so appropriate. Yeah,

1411
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 5: in public? Yeah, and everyone's staring. I'm still like, what

1412
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 5: is this about. I'm business minded and can't imagine a

1413
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 5: breach under any circumstances. But she yells, you sent that

1414
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 5: email that Jeff, and it krushed him.

1415
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 4: He's a professional, right, he should have taken criticism.

1416
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you cannot be a professional in the creative industry

1417
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 5: and not know how to take criticism. I was amazed

1418
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 5: that she knew about it, took his side, and ripped

1419
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 5: me a new one in public without even hearing me.

1420
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 5: I know if Cecilia had an issue with her song,

1421
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 5: she would pull them immediately. She would raise hack I

1422
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 5: couldn't believe a constructive email, kindly worded, could make someone

1423
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 5: hate me so much. I couldn't believe Cecilia sided with

1424
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 5: Jeff when we know how sacred our creations are and

1425
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 5: how much it costs to produce quality recordings. After the

1426
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 5: screaming ended, I took her aside and pointed out she

1427
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 5: had never asked for my side. She paused and let

1428
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 5: me explain my side of the story. I explained that

1429
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,200
Speaker 5: my songs weren't ready and asked her what she would

1430
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 5: do in my shoes. She said, well, I guess I

1431
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 5: would try to get them not to play them either.

1432
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 5: Once I connected some dots, I realized this was not

1433
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 5: about me being mean about someone's work. This was about

1434
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 5: me being a whistleblower calling out that this label was

1435
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 5: basically a fraud and not worth what artists are paying for.

1436
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 5: I am sorry if that's hard to hear. I know

1437
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 5: Jeff is her friend, but business is different, and Jeff

1438
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 5: is taking our money and not producing quality work. I

1439
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 5: never tried to hurt anyone, but I'm not putting my

1440
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 5: name on those songs. Cecilia began to realize that maybe

1441
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 5: she had been wrong, but I was gone, shut down,

1442
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 5: shut out like girl by. I was mortified by the scene.

1443
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 5: I have a strong boundary about public humiliation and being

1444
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 5: screamed at in public, as I assume most people would.

1445
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy, that's a bit too far.

1446
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 5: I was disgusted by Jeff's inability to hear that the

1447
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 5: customer me isn't satisfied. It's really not personal and we

1448
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 5: need to work and learn together. I was angry at

1449
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 5: him for sharing private exchanges with Cecilia. I was angry

1450
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 5: with Cecilia for taking Jeff's side. I was angry Cecilia

1451
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 5: left Jeff, Punt Mike out. None of us are making

1452
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 5: enough money for any of this to be a thing.

1453
01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 5: Cecilia was complicit and took sides without having all the info.

1454
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 5: Screamed at me in my happy place, and no, I'm

1455
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 5: sorry for her, would not suffice. I bounced, I blocked,

1456
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 5: I pieced out. The pandemic happened, my divorce happened. Six

1457
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 5: years later. I moved back, and Cecilia has made friends

1458
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 5: with a large number of my friends in my absence.

1459
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 5: It's gotten around that I've moved back, and Cecilia and friends,

1460
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:24,480
Speaker 5: not Jeff, want us to reconcile.

1461
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 4: Wow, final thoughts. I think Opie handled that perfectly. Yeah,

1462
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,919
Speaker 4: honestly you you stood up for yourself, You explained yourself,

1463
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 4: and you didn't try to continue being friends with Cecilia anymore.

1464
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1465
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 4: I mean now people are trying to recon like, get

1466
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 4: you guys to reconcile, So do it.

1467
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 5: You're well with that, But you know, it's never It's

1468
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 5: not like her being angry at you, or her you know,

1469
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 5: growing apart from you. This is her yelling at you

1470
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:58,560
Speaker 5: in a public space, especially place that you felt safe in. Yeah,

1471
01:08:58,600 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 5: and that people know you there too.

1472
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's like in your neighborhood.

1473
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 5: Just that's that's a step too far. Oh yeah, it

1474
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 5: would be hard to forget.

1475
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 4: For sure.

1476
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 5: It's gotten out to a few folks that we used

1477
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 5: to be friends and collaborators, and they want us to

1478
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 5: get together again. I have said no many times, and

1479
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 5: they finally began to figure out I was avoiding Cecilia.

1480
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 5: Why no isn't working? Friends are saying, obviously it's unfinished

1481
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 5: if she keeps popping up, and she would be devastated

1482
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 5: if she knew how much hurt you just talk to her.

1483
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 5: I do not want to Yes, it would be easier

1484
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 5: for everyone else, But I can't tolerate another conversation about

1485
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 5: something from the past and call it healing. I'm over it.

1486
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 5: Would I be the ale if I told my well

1487
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 5: meaning friends thanks, but no thanks on rekindling my friendship

1488
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 5: with Cecilia. And what do you think I think?

1489
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 7: No?

1490
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 5: I think no too.

1491
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 4: It's a boundary. Yeah, exactly, it's it's your boundary. They

1492
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 4: can understand it. They're friends of yours.

1493
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 5: And they can offer that advice. And also they should

1494
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 5: respect that you don't want to take it.

1495
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's the end of this story.