Speaker 1: And money. We take we are the authority on all
Speaker 1: things R and Ladies and gentleman. My name is Tank,
Speaker 1: I'm J Valentine, and this is the R and B
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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentleman. There are people who exist in many rooms,
Speaker 1: speak on it, speak on it, many rooms, many a room,
Speaker 1: many a room, at a high level in all of
Speaker 1: these rooms, make the records. What else he do? DJ
Speaker 1: the rack? What else he do? You wanted to rap
Speaker 1: on the do it all? I mean, I've seen this
Speaker 1: man everywhere being responsible for something, making sure that something
Speaker 1: went down the way it was supposed to the right way.
Speaker 1: Kawan KP breakthrough. That was thank you, thank you, um
Speaker 1: first of all, thank you, welcome, appreciate your love. And yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't take this lightly, man. We we we we
Speaker 1: are observing people. And we see that those braids, okay,
Speaker 1: those are fresh, those are fresh. That that that that
Speaker 1: when you want braids like that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's gonna cost you a little something. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna cost you some time and somebody, yeah, or some
Speaker 1: good relationships. You know what, you know what, because that
Speaker 1: is exactly what and who you are brother. You are
Speaker 1: walking representation of great relationships. Man. I appreciate that. Thank you.
Speaker 1: And that's something that's I don't always know that very
Speaker 1: tough to attain in this business, is to really have
Speaker 1: great relationships. Everybody knows each other in some way. Everybody
Speaker 1: don't everybody can't have everyone just pick up that phone call.
Speaker 1: I'm grateful and blessed with good intentions when you call me,
Speaker 1: I pick up. I picked up my phone call with
Speaker 1: good intentions. People's cracking down. Well, you know, I appreciate
Speaker 1: that because that's the point, like I want to call
Speaker 1: with good intentions or with something that's either mutually beneficial
Speaker 1: for us or just or I'm calling and really check
Speaker 1: on you and the name to go with it, good
Speaker 1: credit to go along with it. Thank you again. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, we know a lot of guys. You know,
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to do the wiggles, but every
Speaker 1: everything around your name, it's solid. Man. I'm grateful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so we're we're we had those do were those
Speaker 1: guys trying to follow in that same space to make
Speaker 1: sure that even if it's the long way, we're just
Speaker 1: going to do it the right way. The long way.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's absolutely the long way, but it's you
Speaker 1: learn more that way, like the long you know, Like
Speaker 1: I like my career the way it is. It's like
Speaker 1: I've been in it long enough to learn a lot
Speaker 1: almost generationally. That's a part for me. Let's take a
Speaker 1: journey on you getting to this place where you are
Speaker 1: now where you know, I mean some sometimes we can flex,
Speaker 1: sometimes we can floss. Where everything's v I p. Is
Speaker 1: that where the bubbles come. I heard about just your
Speaker 1: intro into this space, um into the music space. Okay,
Speaker 1: so two ways. Well, day one. Day one is watching
Speaker 1: my mom and her aunt and my aunts get ready
Speaker 1: for like to go out to the club and ship,
Speaker 1: and like I get to play records and I just
Speaker 1: remember putting on a Need a Need Award play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would just be shout out on five six. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but but I remember seeing this record with
Speaker 1: just like palm tree on it, and I put it on.
Speaker 1: It was ringing my bell and I saw them lose
Speaker 1: their ship and I'm like, okay, something to this like
Speaker 1: and I played some more ship and they would you know,
Speaker 1: it's almost like they were late for the club a
Speaker 1: little bit and in my head as a as a kid,
Speaker 1: I'm like this made my mom happy, Like I like this,
Speaker 1: I like this feeling. So it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I saw music do that. I didn't know I was
Speaker 1: gonna be a DJ and no ship. But I was
Speaker 1: at the airport hustling, like you know, the little cards,
Speaker 1: like I told the story something else, but the carts
Speaker 1: at the airport. Like back when I was when I
Speaker 1: was eleven, there was an there's an arcade in Hartsville,
Speaker 1: and what we would do is go take these cards back.
Speaker 1: You put them back in the stall came out. So
Speaker 1: we were running around and just trapped all day and
Speaker 1: then go end up at the arcade. I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: playing the game. Dude comes in play and starts playing
Speaker 1: like he had some jury that would seem odd. Asked
Speaker 1: him about it. He said, yes, ll cool J, what's
Speaker 1: up short? He cannot play this game with you. You know.
Speaker 1: It was like weird, right, But at the time, he
Speaker 1: had to be sixteen, So he's a kid too at
Speaker 1: the time who had to be sixteen. I think it
Speaker 1: got cracking family like fifteen yeah. So yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: like I'm just playing a video game with an older kid,
Speaker 1: but then he said somebody but he got jewels, got
Speaker 1: jewelry and the name and um, and I'm like, how
Speaker 1: you get that? And he was like, yeah, I'm here
Speaker 1: doing the show and he's in my head. The voice
Speaker 1: is still your shorty. Um, you know it's still yeah,
Speaker 1: sure you're doing the show here and you know, and
Speaker 1: it's it's that. But he was doing to show at
Speaker 1: this club called the Phoenix, and he back then you
Speaker 1: didn't have to go through t s A. So he
Speaker 1: took me back to see like his DJ and the
Speaker 1: people who with him, like the Beastie Boys and ship
Speaker 1: and it was like weird, but at the same time
Speaker 1: it was like one of those these kids are just
Speaker 1: going places because they were all kids. They weren't so
Speaker 1: are away in age for me, but it was like
Speaker 1: it was interesting and then that again. Then that Christmas,
Speaker 1: my mom got me turntables and I got two. Started. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I started doing the high school parties, talent shows, doing
Speaker 1: mixtapes for like dance groups, you know, like just so
Speaker 1: they can perform to like so when it broke down
Speaker 1: into moments and love like on Beaten like, so I'll
Speaker 1: make show tapes and how old are you at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to go back to something. Um is there.
Speaker 1: There's an arcade and it used to be used to
Speaker 1: be Yeah, you're looking for it right now, take right now,
Speaker 1: because I'm always in that airport, always connected. Man, listen now,
Speaker 1: it used to be there, but you know, then things
Speaker 1: got dangerous in Atlanta, so you know you couldn't have
Speaker 1: airport video games. But he come up missing. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's your DJ, and you're going mix tape, have before
Speaker 1: mix tapes? Well you know, I don't even want to
Speaker 1: call it mix tape. I will make tapes for a
Speaker 1: couple of people, like you know, because in eighth grade
Speaker 1: I came up on Luke Scott Walker. So I was
Speaker 1: trapping like the dirty tapes I had too short because
Speaker 1: you can't just get those. They don't understand. You just
Speaker 1: couldn't get the freaky tails. You couldn't get me like
Speaker 1: your ship. Yeah, because they had they had that that
Speaker 1: sticker on it. They hadsory sticker. I was a church
Speaker 1: so don't know about Hey we also fun so I
Speaker 1: know about it. I know of it. Learned later in life.
Speaker 1: Just used to use the words that they changed. I sang,
Speaker 1: I sang all the cleans and all my friends and school, Like,
Speaker 1: that's not how that got it all. Like the Lord's version,
Speaker 1: I knew every name that too Short said on Freaky Tails,
Speaker 1: you probably knew someone man, right, it was so so
Speaker 1: I was doing you hustling, You're hustling the dirty types. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and and and you know, and then I ran into
Speaker 1: um a friend of mines, well not even at the time,
Speaker 1: like I was DJ and the Talent show. This dude
Speaker 1: comes up and it's like, yo, my brother nam wrapped.
Speaker 1: They're looking for a DJ. It was Big Recent Mellow.
Speaker 1: Well at the time it was my cousin. It was
Speaker 1: my homeboy Corey, but we called called each other cousins. Um.
Speaker 1: So Corey's brother was dating Tien t Boss from TLC,
Speaker 1: So all of us ended up all being cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody home me. So which fast forward, That's how my
Speaker 1: group Parental Advisory we got signed at the Baby Baby
Speaker 1: Baby video shoot audition because what yeah, we got signed
Speaker 1: because Tian was like, come down to our video shoot,
Speaker 1: pebbles down here, we're doing the audition, bring your bring
Speaker 1: your equipment and ship. So I picked up Recent Mellow.
Speaker 1: I had this little white trans am put on my
Speaker 1: ship in. We got down to the rehearsal spot and
Speaker 1: I brought my ship into the rehearsal spot like I'm
Speaker 1: setting up and she's like whoa, yeah, what do you
Speaker 1: do with pebbles from the base. She's like, whoa, what's up?
Speaker 1: I'm like Tian said, and she was like, well, before
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, you're gonna be in a video.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be Chili's boyfriend. And I'm like what And
Speaker 1: she was like, well, if you want to use my time,
Speaker 1: I'm auditioning to people for a video. And so I
Speaker 1: ended up being in the video because of that, but
Speaker 1: she also gave us a deal after we performed. Damn,
Speaker 1: I gotta go back and look at that video that
Speaker 1: all three of us have been video homes. Video You
Speaker 1: was a video hole too. No no, no, no, don't
Speaker 1: jump out. He should call for me, TLC for him
Speaker 1: and SHARRISA for you. Don't try to get out of
Speaker 1: this brother with us. Welcome too. Shout out to Brice
Speaker 1: who my guy. Bryce. I had to sneak in on Bryce.
Speaker 1: He wasn't doing the right thing. Yeah, but he don
Speaker 1: want convinced me to do the Keysha video. Yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is that one of those like what do you
Speaker 1: call it Kevin Baking moments? Right? So Bryce was the
Speaker 1: homie and I ended up getting face too right to
Speaker 1: one of his beats. That's how you're making me high?
Speaker 1: I came out no way, what yeah, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: this is this is how it goes. The relationships. Wow.
Speaker 1: And he beat them like yo, this your hard and
Speaker 1: I was, and you know, I was like, it'd be
Speaker 1: crazy if Tony Braxton was on this ship and the
Speaker 1: versus history, remember like it was yesterday, and that's what
Speaker 1: you call hand on. Yeah, that's that's that's what you
Speaker 1: call han on. So y'all get the deal. You know,
Speaker 1: we get a deal. So y'all signed face signed. We
Speaker 1: signed a little face first, we signed to a pebbletone
Speaker 1: the face. So we're actually the first rep REP group
Speaker 1: to get signed. But our crew was a Dungeon family,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, we got our own producers. And because
Speaker 1: at the time they were like you should work with
Speaker 1: KG from by Nature, um, like you know New York.
Speaker 1: He was having his run to he was him and
Speaker 1: Dave dropped a load on him like going in and
Speaker 1: but I was like, now we got our folks Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: they organized North's had met he was in l A
Speaker 1: before through TLSE. They did a remix for what About
Speaker 1: Your Friends? They have been trying to get down but
Speaker 1: it just hadn't happened yet. But we got an idea,
Speaker 1: were like, these are producers. So they did our first album.
Speaker 1: And what I learned was I was doing and R
Speaker 1: then because l A was like, yo, um you telling
Speaker 1: us who's gonna producer our record? I was learning that
Speaker 1: these opinions people get paid for that ship So you know,
Speaker 1: we we we did our first album, We did a couple.
Speaker 1: We did like three albums. But on the road when
Speaker 1: we would go out, I'd be meeting people like like
Speaker 1: q Tip or Quess Love or like we were on
Speaker 1: the road with the Roots and I meet q Tip.
Speaker 1: We get him and Dilla to do a remix for
Speaker 1: Elevators because I'm like l A, these try called crest
Speaker 1: producers and hot sets like it's like and I didn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't working then. I was just like yeo, I met.
Speaker 1: I just met these guys and they do that too.
Speaker 1: They want to produce. That's the other part and how
Speaker 1: the labels work. People don't understand that l A read
Speaker 1: who is the head of the label. He's not going
Speaker 1: to be on the road every day, but he's not
Speaker 1: going to know who the new young dude is. Someone
Speaker 1: has to introduce that, and you can get paid for that,
Speaker 1: especially if you do it with consistency and taste. I
Speaker 1: think that's where me and l A clicked. It's like
Speaker 1: I was, I'm am in Atlanta, dude, like that's who
Speaker 1: I am, but I understood like outside of like just
Speaker 1: the area because I was a DJ, So I you know,
Speaker 1: I knew what New York hip hop founded, Like I
Speaker 1: knew what Michael Jackson sounds like. I know what these
Speaker 1: records do in a place. I know what Stevie Wonder
Speaker 1: does if you play you know as or another star, Like,
Speaker 1: I know what these moments look like. So I'm always
Speaker 1: kind of looking for those moments with records and artists
Speaker 1: who can deliver that. So l A me and him
Speaker 1: just click because Pebbles was like, yo, y'all need to connect,
Speaker 1: like really, Pebbles put me in it, like across the board, Wow,
Speaker 1: shout out to the band. Yeah, because I think that
Speaker 1: I've always felt like DJs like or even like the
Speaker 1: dopest producers just because of their the amount of information
Speaker 1: that they understand, and you musically instant either gratification or
Speaker 1: you know, you got to change the record immediately, you
Speaker 1: know what's going to see it Like when you see
Speaker 1: like real time, in real time, when people are dancing
Speaker 1: and then they stopped, that's your fault because you played
Speaker 1: something that didn't keep the energy. So it's like it
Speaker 1: makes you pay attention to what causes their energy, like
Speaker 1: which sounds feel away, you know, and I think that
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, that's my um. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know, like the secret sauce, but that's sauce. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So like I get to like, it's why I like
Speaker 1: DJ and Steel because I'm like, you can't tell me
Speaker 1: this ship is jam and when I saw it not
Speaker 1: work right, Like I don't care about what your streams
Speaker 1: look like. I know what it looks like when people
Speaker 1: when it when it hits people like and that's more
Speaker 1: important because I'm like the organic field, Yeah, the actual
Speaker 1: because people will people will actually raise you up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the foundation you need. The programming side of it,
Speaker 1: the number side of it is just whatever. But if
Speaker 1: you can build a swell of a good amount of
Speaker 1: people organically, that's something completely different. Yeah, that's what you
Speaker 1: get paid for it. Like that's I mean, that's when
Speaker 1: you get paid. You can be talented. But if you're
Speaker 1: going talented with no proof that someone cares, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like then it's a gamble. But when you go
Speaker 1: in and even when it's something small at a time,
Speaker 1: like when it's like consistently selling out two hundred people
Speaker 1: in a in a club, right, if you can do
Speaker 1: that ship for two three months, that means some of
Speaker 1: those people are coming back. That means they're affected by you.
Speaker 1: So if you put more on, it's like if you know,
Speaker 1: if you whip the thing on up just a little
Speaker 1: bit more, Yeah, it's like just keep and keep whipping,
Speaker 1: and it's like and that's that's like when it's you know,
Speaker 1: no punt attend, that's when it's dope. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like it's it's actually affects people in a way that
Speaker 1: they want it. Like dope sell itself for sure. Like
Speaker 1: it ain't a lot of commercials for no Dope. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen anything, you know, I've seen Billboard now and
Speaker 1: maybe setting out. I've seen down with dope like they
Speaker 1: had to do campaigns against dope again, which goes into
Speaker 1: our music and ship too. Though it's like you can
Speaker 1: watch when it's when it's dope, there's always a campaign
Speaker 1: against it on some level where it's like this alternative
Speaker 1: to it, like this version of it. So what makes
Speaker 1: you transition? I mean, obviously I know that it's being identified,
Speaker 1: it's being identified early, But what makes you say, you
Speaker 1: know what? I like the rap group thing. I like
Speaker 1: being on a road, but you know what, I want
Speaker 1: to make records? Well, two things, right, I was learning
Speaker 1: how to make records and our group got signed to DreamWorks.
Speaker 1: Um so after the face, after the face, So after
Speaker 1: the face, Pebbles took us to m c A. Because
Speaker 1: she got a situation the m c A. Gerald Busbey.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. We made a record there, did okay,
Speaker 1: but then her thing somehow another wasn't there anymore, right,
Speaker 1: So we ended up getting a deal at dream Works
Speaker 1: and went wrong with you. Oh man, what two nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety nine? Maybe nine nine nine? It was like it
Speaker 1: was ninety nine. Yeah, absolutely, um, because I think the
Speaker 1: album came out in two thousand, because yeah, I was around,
Speaker 1: I was, I was heavy at DreamWorks. Then it was
Speaker 1: a great place to be UM. But but while we
Speaker 1: were there, I started the mold and and everybody and Michael,
Speaker 1: Michael Austin would speak to me about the route. And
Speaker 1: we had a manager. Blue was our manager at Tim
Speaker 1: Blue Williams. And but Blue is also managing like he
Speaker 1: was he was busy. And because I worked with Blue
Speaker 1: oudcast yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, a little group on
Speaker 1: the outcast UM. So obviously we were not UM. But
Speaker 1: I would I would form me. I would get these
Speaker 1: relationships because I would talk because I wanted information. So
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Austen became like an ally for me,
Speaker 1: like just to understand what was going on in the
Speaker 1: in the building. And and eventually they started talking to
Speaker 1: me all the time. And so one day I get
Speaker 1: a call is the group and management and they're like,
Speaker 1: kype man, we gotta figure out something because like you're
Speaker 1: talking to them. But I'm like, you know, you're not
Speaker 1: necessarily the leader of the group. I'm like, okay, fair enough,
Speaker 1: but like it's working, like we had gotta we just
Speaker 1: started producing. We had a publishing deal, like I got
Speaker 1: us a publish deal with hit Co, but like a
Speaker 1: real check, like we might have got more than some
Speaker 1: of the bigger producers in Atlanta at the time. And
Speaker 1: I was like me being me talking is work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you know what at well, I hear
Speaker 1: y'all what I'm gonna do. Then l A offer me
Speaker 1: this gig for real, I'm gonna take this so that
Speaker 1: way our friendship can be intact. Like I don't want
Speaker 1: to funk off the energy. That way y'all can run it.
Speaker 1: And then I went to work. Like you mean you
Speaker 1: walked away from the group. Yeah, well, I mean I
Speaker 1: I don't want to make I don't know dramatic like
Speaker 1: you take a job. Well, I had an option, like
Speaker 1: you know, I had the option. And again I was
Speaker 1: looking at like, bro, we're friends, Like I don't like this,
Speaker 1: felt this call feels weird. All this is weird. We
Speaker 1: ain't got to do this. And I took the job.
Speaker 1: And then I went to work. But I but I
Speaker 1: went to work like heavy, heavy work. I think I
Speaker 1: did this remix for this group called a Few good Men,
Speaker 1: and it was they had this ballot call have have
Speaker 1: I ever? And it was a ballot, but I had
Speaker 1: um met the sixty nine boys on the road. So
Speaker 1: we did a bass remix of it and that ship
Speaker 1: went up and I was like, oh, okay, okay. He
Speaker 1: was like okay, damn, that was cool. How you do that? Like,
Speaker 1: but to me, that's something we did in Atlanta, like
Speaker 1: taking bass records like Miami based records, putting them on
Speaker 1: the Keith Sweat, you know, just making an ignorant um
Speaker 1: and asked me to help out Usher after his first
Speaker 1: album came out, so he was like I was trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out, and you know, he was like
Speaker 1: close in a close enough in age for me to
Speaker 1: understand why why not just taking to Jermaine like domain
Speaker 1: good with kids making right and Jermaine's southern that's just
Speaker 1: from Tennessee. As cool as it is that he got
Speaker 1: the swag from New York, you kind of can't overshoot
Speaker 1: swag if you're fourteen, someone can't you get with it.
Speaker 1: It's just a sexual thing. It's like you, well, then
Speaker 1: I can't drop my daughter at at that show. So
Speaker 1: we just made it kind of more age appropriate and
Speaker 1: with Southern swag like where it's like it's it's a
Speaker 1: gentleman doing it, so you're there for you make me
Speaker 1: wanna yeah all of it? Yeah, yeah, you made me
Speaker 1: want to like the beginning, you made me well no,
Speaker 1: now you maybe one of was literally the end like
Speaker 1: where like I remember having like the night the hook
Speaker 1: Jermaine wrote the hook, and I called l A. I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, you should come out of Jamaine's house.
Speaker 1: It might have been like forty five minutes to an
Speaker 1: hour away, and he was like what. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you should do that for this one. He drove out,
Speaker 1: came out. I was like, okay, ship, what the rest
Speaker 1: of it that? And I was like, oh, ship, you
Speaker 1: haven't drive off for one song off a hook for
Speaker 1: a hook? Yeah, ship, But I'm like you maybe like
Speaker 1: it's like you don't hit it. Like I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: losing my ship, just like this might be like two
Speaker 1: or three o'clock in the morning, by the way, which
Speaker 1: lets you know him being about to smoke, like all
Speaker 1: right and gotten this portion drove over the next morning,
Speaker 1: you know, after you know we finished it and brought
Speaker 1: it back, he was like, okay, a man. You know,
Speaker 1: he wasn't mad for the drive because it was like that,
Speaker 1: but it was that kind of it was that energy
Speaker 1: that was happening like in l A was absolutely about
Speaker 1: the song. Smoke. That was a game changer. But that's
Speaker 1: that's also while we're so adamant about creators also being
Speaker 1: owners and label heads, because a guy who has never
Speaker 1: created anything like that of his own, he don't understand
Speaker 1: that at two or three in the morning, that moment,
Speaker 1: especially even if he's just coming to Cheerley, what the
Speaker 1: young fellas is doing just to keep him going understand
Speaker 1: how to Chile and understanding how to Cheerley to not
Speaker 1: getting the way of that, not getting away or discourage
Speaker 1: something that might be different, because I think that's where
Speaker 1: a lot of it happens, is like the fear of different.
Speaker 1: Like being in Atlanta, we didn't necessarily have to worry
Speaker 1: about it because we didn't have people on our next
Speaker 1: about what this was because no one knew yet nobody
Speaker 1: knew what it was, so we were blessed in that way.
Speaker 1: That's that's just an amazing feeling to have that and
Speaker 1: to be around creatives. Like I said, you know, yes
Speaker 1: we have as creative as we have our things that
Speaker 1: ain't always up to part you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: because we're creative. Yeah, And and what's what's right right?
Speaker 1: Like who's to say what's the right way to do anything,
Speaker 1: Like in my head, like I don't know what the
Speaker 1: first person who said timberland ship was dope, but I
Speaker 1: can imagine if a lot of people say that's retarded. No,
Speaker 1: in talking to Timberland, him being him being met with
Speaker 1: resistance about the pony song from you know, a guy
Speaker 1: who's the godfather to me, Davante, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: about all that that, it's cool, but like imagine that conversation, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: from the guy who did crap, like because that could
Speaker 1: be the gospel, all that that within itself. If DeVante
Speaker 1: said to me, that ain't the way I would burn
Speaker 1: everything down down, I burn everything down, all of it.
Speaker 1: DeVante said no, he said it wasn't it was We're
Speaker 1: going to go another way. Did he say no? He
Speaker 1: didn't the world He didn't say yes, this is word
Speaker 1: that means though, And for Timberland to stand on that
Speaker 1: and just say, I don't know, I think this is
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. But Timberland also as
Speaker 1: a DJ again absolutely so his perspective in beatmaking, it's
Speaker 1: about keeping that happening and the space that he creates
Speaker 1: it with. Like I used to watch people try to imitate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I used to do it definitely. And the one thing,
Speaker 1: you know, I went to something for the people immediately,
Speaker 1: Like people didn't realize how he used space. It's not
Speaker 1: just the drums, it's the space because she's produced. There's
Speaker 1: some spooky ship happening in some of themselves. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: it's suspense and he's giving it all room. But you
Speaker 1: know I'm saying being different, Like you spoke about that Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Nobody knew what that was, what you guys were doing
Speaker 1: down there. We were just like because I was down
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, and you know what I'm saying, messing with
Speaker 1: messing with Noontime, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: would always be in the lab with shout out the
Speaker 1: Noontime Brothers one thousand percent. Kid, what's up? We got
Speaker 1: Arrest of the Chris Chris Hicks one. Like Noontime like
Speaker 1: noon Time showed us out of hustle. Like what I
Speaker 1: will say is we learned how to do music from
Speaker 1: l A and Pebble's. But I swear I used to
Speaker 1: watch no One Time'm like, oh they are getting money
Speaker 1: over there, man, but they'll figured out how to trap
Speaker 1: off music in a way that it's like we got
Speaker 1: rooms full of we got producers that they were doing
Speaker 1: motown ship like like it was. It was a factory.
Speaker 1: Like you get down there's ten b Cox and Jone.
Speaker 1: It's like the people who would be there were really amazing,
Speaker 1: like jazz fade, but it would be fun energy. It
Speaker 1: was early b Cox too, Yeah, it was. It was
Speaker 1: it was right before had figured out his own identity
Speaker 1: because b Cox at first was the baby chacked up,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I was like, he's
Speaker 1: not Jake Dub like he's got something else. And then
Speaker 1: I remember him telling me, yeah, I'm about to go
Speaker 1: meet up with your main duprix. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: but hey, by the way, but I'm gonna get like
Speaker 1: Jagge got made that happen, Like they found him over there, wow, twinters,
Speaker 1: So he brought he brought the twins over to work
Speaker 1: with me. Because the twins brought him to work with
Speaker 1: your man, that's crazy. Yeah, And he was like, you
Speaker 1: think you gotta work with the twins and man a
Speaker 1: little work with him, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: they walked in, you know, so you know, the twins
Speaker 1: don't know you when they first walked in. That walk
Speaker 1: in is a little stinky. It ain't it ain't warm.
Speaker 1: Is different. And then you know, we had to have
Speaker 1: our sing off, and then we had to go play
Speaker 1: a little basketball and I had to you know, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm different on this basketball court. It was me Donnie
Speaker 1: Scats against the Twins, your main student, main studio half
Speaker 1: court game. I must have had at least three dunks. Ship.
Speaker 1: I know this athletic. I was going crazy. They switched
Speaker 1: off on me so many times. I didn't know who
Speaker 1: was checking. I got the Twins. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on right now. And when it would start arguing,
Speaker 1: it would be crazy because they like argue on some like,
Speaker 1: you know, somebody gonna get stabbed. I'm man, y'all brothers man.
Speaker 1: Come on, y'all, don't just met man, Love you, brothers man.
Speaker 1: That was the first time, as we talked about noon time,
Speaker 1: that I had ever seen a producer be about his
Speaker 1: business in terms of how he managed, how he did production.
Speaker 1: And that was Teddy Bishop. Teddy Bishop was a businessman,
Speaker 1: producer like splits will get done here. I clock in
Speaker 1: at two and at eight p m. I will be
Speaker 1: packing up my briefcase. Good day, fellas, I'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I'm going home to eat dinner. I'm like, where's he going?
Speaker 1: Just jazzy thing would just be walking in. Well he
Speaker 1: walk in with all the energy and like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, we might go to the strip club
Speaker 1: like it like it was just that time down there
Speaker 1: for me, going through all those progressions where all of
Speaker 1: those guys was was really an important moment for me
Speaker 1: and being broke at the same time. Yeah. And by
Speaker 1: the way, Atlanta, you can be broke. Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I went to the strip up with all the twenty
Speaker 1: dollars and I just kept falling it over, turning like
Speaker 1: I think, well, it's not that he got over. Nobody
Speaker 1: thought he was bawling, like they just let him live.
Speaker 1: Like that's the Atlanta thing. It's like, yeah, oh that's cute,
Speaker 1: you know, enjoying yourself. What was at your level? What
Speaker 1: was the club? I can't think of what. There are
Speaker 1: so many levels in Atlanta, and I was. I was
Speaker 1: at my baby level with my per diam And by
Speaker 1: the way, you could get like you could get sympathy love.
Speaker 1: I was getting so much sympathy love you know what I
Speaker 1: I know. I know my fit wasn't it wasn't right.
Speaker 1: It was just twenty five in my hand. But I
Speaker 1: think me and the girl had a connection probably like
Speaker 1: she's a human, you know what I mean? Like that
Speaker 1: happens like you're trying to win off the human. Absolutely so,
Speaker 1: so what do you want to do? What else? You
Speaker 1: want to do? What you want to I've still got
Speaker 1: my church on me, you know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: know the you know the Lord. It's not judgment here,
Speaker 1: No judgment here, man. We are all children of God. Amen.
Speaker 1: They go, hey man, I'm gonna get this money over
Speaker 1: get his money. Do you feel like since y'all mentioned
Speaker 1: it the strip club, since it's such you know, it's
Speaker 1: a staple of Atlanta, something that's always mentioned. It's something
Speaker 1: that if you don't matter who you are, you could
Speaker 1: be top of the top loss of the loss you're
Speaker 1: going to step into one of those strip clubs in Atlanta?
Speaker 1: Do you feel like that's a driving force? Has been
Speaker 1: a driving force in what you guys as music has
Speaker 1: been out there as well. Um, it's a driving source
Speaker 1: of of of where things connect, right, but um, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: like and it's I guess that's skipping stages. Right. So
Speaker 1: in my from DJ to music stuff, right, I have
Speaker 1: an uncle who he was a businessman like he because
Speaker 1: he wanted to make sure I was not on a bullshit.
Speaker 1: So he was like, what you need to stay straight,
Speaker 1: and so he took me to Guitar Center and got
Speaker 1: me straight. And some of that equipment ended up being
Speaker 1: the first equipment we had at the Dungeon. But the
Speaker 1: other story, and that is when I was around thirteen
Speaker 1: as well, I used to go clean up at the club,
Speaker 1: at the strip club at the Blue Flame, because me
Speaker 1: and my aunt used to do the clean up in
Speaker 1: the mornings. You're cleaning the Blue Flame. Yeah, so it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm in there looking at the equipment like man, like,
Speaker 1: I'm in there. After we finished, I'm playing with the
Speaker 1: DJ ship like I'm playing with lights and smoke like
Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh, this ship lives like And I
Speaker 1: had never been in a live strip club at that point,
Speaker 1: but it looked like a stage, looked entertaining. I knew
Speaker 1: I was in the club. I knew it smells funny,
Speaker 1: like I know this got it got it got in
Speaker 1: the morning, especially in the morning I haven't been in
Speaker 1: the strip club in the mor We have been in
Speaker 1: the strip clubs and be in there. Give me out
Speaker 1: of there, trying to get you King of Dimonds. Seven am,
Speaker 1: they're still going consider the morning. I want to take
Speaker 1: this end of the night. I don't want to be
Speaker 1: in there in the morning. But I mean, you, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess it's fair. It's fair. So bro, you I
Speaker 1: mean like that that uss your album was out of
Speaker 1: control and you're you're in here orchestrating, orchestrating and moving
Speaker 1: things around. I'm helping, I'm contributing, contributing. What is the
Speaker 1: conversation after that, especially when it is as successful. Ironically,
Speaker 1: So during that same time, we have a deal at DreamWorks.
Speaker 1: So this half the user album has and they're like, yo,
Speaker 1: won't you come work over here? So they offered me
Speaker 1: a whole gig like I. They gave me a package,
Speaker 1: the insurance like I. I had to go back to
Speaker 1: Atlanta like so l A. They offered me this as
Speaker 1: a gig, And I didn't know niggas get paid like this,
Speaker 1: you know, Because again what I understand now is l
Speaker 1: Face was a production company. Dream Works was David Geffen
Speaker 1: Spielberg and Cattenberg. It was go back. It was with
Speaker 1: the bag. They make the bags they're like so it's
Speaker 1: like they were really like, yo, how much you make?
Speaker 1: Like they would hear me with the real like like
Speaker 1: scoffing at my money, and I'm like I felt disrespected,
Speaker 1: not just me, but I felt like what we were doing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why are they talking to me like this
Speaker 1: with the records that we're selling and the impact is happening.
Speaker 1: I went back to um l A told him about it.
Speaker 1: He was like, man, give me a minute, and I
Speaker 1: guess he then called all around and Usher at the
Speaker 1: time was like, Yo, you can't. You can't lose KP.
Speaker 1: And that's how I got my production deal Ghetto Vision,
Speaker 1: because he was like, I can't give you more more money.
Speaker 1: I can give you more opportunity opportunity and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'll take that. And sometimes you gotta have I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously hindsight right like they say, but sometimes you just
Speaker 1: have to have faith. Yeah, that's all. And what that
Speaker 1: opportunity can be other than chasing a bag. Because I
Speaker 1: also understood what this bad came me having to educate
Speaker 1: these people on how to do ship that we did naturally. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I understood the idea of you know, breaking up
Speaker 1: the team. It's like, yeah, I think I'm talented, but
Speaker 1: I know my squad helps me to focus on the
Speaker 1: part I do. And that's the part I liked about it.
Speaker 1: So and also I got a chance to sign that's
Speaker 1: when I signed young Bloods and Tia and ti I.
Speaker 1: So it's like I would have had to explain that
Speaker 1: in l A Like young Bloods didn't have a song
Speaker 1: when I sign on them. I just saw them in
Speaker 1: the club throwing the football around. And it was in
Speaker 1: the club throwing the football. Yeah, Like it looked like
Speaker 1: animal house to me, and I was like, it's something
Speaker 1: fun that time someone you just can't skip the club, Yes,
Speaker 1: it was. It was a club called a Chili Pepper
Speaker 1: and they had two levels and they were upstairs, like
Speaker 1: there's a balcony on this side, on this side, there's
Speaker 1: a dance floor down here. They're throwing the ball across
Speaker 1: the balcony like yeah, as the club is going on,
Speaker 1: everybody party. Yeah, I love that they're playing cash yeah,
Speaker 1: and seam Paul like shake them off, he said, shake
Speaker 1: them that's a that's a that's a song like we
Speaker 1: should like, let's let's do that on them, and Pretty King,
Speaker 1: who is Seam Paul's cousin, was like, yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I was gonna do. And they went home, produced
Speaker 1: the record and came back. So do you sign young
Speaker 1: Blood before you signed yea her Young Bluds? Probably maybe ship.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, t I is in eighty five in
Speaker 1: the video for eighty five, like that's their second I
Speaker 1: think that was the second single, third single, And that's
Speaker 1: when I met Tip. Are you married by the video? Shoot?
Speaker 1: No no no no. I met him around this time, and
Speaker 1: by that time I started to take him everywhere I went.
Speaker 1: Like the day I met him was like a day
Speaker 1: or two before like a Source Awards, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: he rapped. A matter of fact, he came to a
Speaker 1: session the group I was in n p A. He
Speaker 1: came to the session and Reese was like, yea O KP.
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna like him. You should come down.
Speaker 1: I was, I'm always at the studio and um, I
Speaker 1: was like, well, if you wrap rap on this, and
Speaker 1: he rapped on the song it's on It's on like
Speaker 1: our third album, right, but um he came in and
Speaker 1: on the spot said some ship that really that I
Speaker 1: knew he made right then, but it was so fire
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh yeah, Bet. I was like,
Speaker 1: what you're doing tomorrow? You want to come to l A.
Speaker 1: And he was like, let me check my schedule and
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, I can do it. I can do it,
Speaker 1: and hopped on a plane with me the next morning
Speaker 1: to come to l A. And that's and I was
Speaker 1: just watching him around everybody like, um, like this was
Speaker 1: the year that watched for the hook was big for
Speaker 1: the Dungeon family, so we were kind of popping um.
Speaker 1: So he comes out and just the he jumped in
Speaker 1: the middle of a cipher on the back of the
Speaker 1: bus that like rap City was doing it and Gip
Speaker 1: came out like hell shout it and it's like it
Speaker 1: was that kind of energy, right, but he had it.
Speaker 1: He wasn't scared, like not from the guidea like there
Speaker 1: was a camera, Oh Bet, I'm on, let's go. A
Speaker 1: matter of fact, he Cool Breeze didn't make Cool Breese
Speaker 1: whose song it was. He drove from Atlanta to California
Speaker 1: and didn't make a sound check or camera blocking, so
Speaker 1: t I ended up doing his part for the camera
Speaker 1: block but he performed the ship out of it and
Speaker 1: knew all the words, and so everybody was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's like his first weekend out. Oh yeah. He
Speaker 1: took advantage of the moment and I got back and
Speaker 1: we signed him when the week like the day we
Speaker 1: got back. I don't think Ta gets enough credit for
Speaker 1: the kind of rapper, songwriter, the songwriter that he is.
Speaker 1: And I've watched him do sixteen bars in his head
Speaker 1: in five minutes. No, he's actually brilliant. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: which is you know, goes to the whole point the
Speaker 1: trouble man ship, just like smart kids are usually bored
Speaker 1: in school, so you know she's gonna happen. I'm like,
Speaker 1: how did you just make that up? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And and the music he makes it's very diverse. It's
Speaker 1: not like I think everybody just especially since he coined
Speaker 1: the term, you know, trap music, everybody just puts him
Speaker 1: in that category. Yeah, but he's a songwriter. He's like
Speaker 1: if if you if you make a mistake, right and
Speaker 1: put him in a sign up with the other trap artists, right,
Speaker 1: if you put him in the best place for him
Speaker 1: to be, in the middle, But if you put him
Speaker 1: anywhere too early. Everybody else's fun because he has hits,
Speaker 1: Like he don't have vibes. He ain't got no damn
Speaker 1: but he ain't gonna vibe. They got hits something very
Speaker 1: different between the vibe and hit. Yeah, Like it's like
Speaker 1: I funk with that. It's cool. God him, Like why
Speaker 1: this keep punched me upside? Bring him out? Bring him out?
Speaker 1: Like you can't have whatever you like. It's the hardest
Speaker 1: part is we gotta do Metley's for him, Like we
Speaker 1: gotta put together a quick ten minutes Metley. It's like,
Speaker 1: what where do you go? It's just it's just hooks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to use everything, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like something we can't leave out that we can't. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's gotta be in there by the time you finished
Speaker 1: the thirty minutes ago. Was that tough for you that
Speaker 1: you saw that early in him and you identified that
Speaker 1: with him, but you weren't able to have the six
Speaker 1: said she wanted at Ghetto Vision with him. Nah, I
Speaker 1: didn't look at it. I don't think I looked at
Speaker 1: it like that because I'm serious with my ship. No,
Speaker 1: I'm listening and what I'm what I'm proud of is quality.
Speaker 1: Like if if we were in today, what would be
Speaker 1: what that record would be? Was his mixtape, Like it's
Speaker 1: so like it's sold a hundred seventy thousand, but it's
Speaker 1: sold a hundred seventy thousand and five thousand at a
Speaker 1: time every week for about seventy some weeks. And I
Speaker 1: was like, to me, that means somebody's hearing it and
Speaker 1: it's and it was steady. And so it was a
Speaker 1: brick based on all the other ship we were know what,
Speaker 1: but it was a success in planning the seed. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, still ain't forgave myself for him. It's like
Speaker 1: still it's like a real record for him, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's like, um no, I never thought about like that.
Speaker 1: I felt like I did what I was supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Like I did the part that I was supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Because the thing is, from that point on, he that
Speaker 1: not working the way it could have got him into
Speaker 1: a place where he did more work. But he started
Speaker 1: really working. He turned up like like yeah, he started.
Speaker 1: He he turned up like a like a real trapper,
Speaker 1: like got in the car and and start doing the
Speaker 1: radius of Atlanta, the Alabama, the Florida, the North Arolina,
Speaker 1: South Carolina and every weekend, like you wouldn't see him
Speaker 1: in Atlanta from Wednesday to Sunday, like, and it wasn't
Speaker 1: a big record, but he was going out making sure,
Speaker 1: you know, like the people knew who he was doing
Speaker 1: the club shows and and you know he was doing it.
Speaker 1: He was doing his things. So by the time Trap
Speaker 1: Music came around, like the second album and um twenty
Speaker 1: folds came out, people knew him more. So when he
Speaker 1: went to get a deal at Atlantic, and it's like
Speaker 1: by this time, I had I left Arisa because when
Speaker 1: his first album came out, it was when we us
Speaker 1: went from LaFace to Arista. Okay, so when we were
Speaker 1: doing in Atlanta, everything was easy. We got to New York.
Speaker 1: You got to convince new you know, a new set
Speaker 1: of people that this is worth something who don't ever
Speaker 1: visit the space. So that that I attribute a lot
Speaker 1: of that to that. It's like, you know, like our
Speaker 1: first the first choice for a single was a song
Speaker 1: called Dope Wars in the Trap. That was what I
Speaker 1: wanted to put out first. We can't play that on
Speaker 1: the radio. This is New York. We can't play that um,
Speaker 1: but you got this record with the Neptunes and Beanie Man.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah, we're gonna get to that. Yeah no, no, no,
Speaker 1: let's get to that. And that ended up being the
Speaker 1: first single. But it's like skipping a grade for sure.
Speaker 1: So it's like the learning experience for all of us
Speaker 1: at that point, because I'm like, well, fuck it, it
Speaker 1: is our record. Like as a as a label head
Speaker 1: at that time, I'm still looking at it like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, as opposed to going with good, we've gone
Speaker 1: We've yeah, we've gone through that, understand Yeah. So but
Speaker 1: but what it was was it showed like, Okay, you
Speaker 1: were right in the choice, like, but you gotta stick
Speaker 1: with that. You gotta fight through that part. So that
Speaker 1: kind of helped me through everything else and even just
Speaker 1: building you up as an executive. Yeah, that got me
Speaker 1: Like if it wasn't for t I, I I couldn't have
Speaker 1: I couldn't have got a John legend off with the
Speaker 1: insenstance of Carl Thomas Tuba. I mean, you know, listen,
Speaker 1: just pay attention, man. But what I'm saying, but it's like,
Speaker 1: but understanding what Carl is also understanding what John also
Speaker 1: brought to that was like, Okay, there's a place where
Speaker 1: you know that it connects in a black space, but
Speaker 1: you also understand in a very nacking, co articulate way. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can do this as well. Yeah no, no, John,
Speaker 1: John is definitely tapped into the to the Queen's English. Yeah, absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's just it's but something about absolutely you never
Speaker 1: lose the soul in that and it's something about that
Speaker 1: tone for sure that is just always connected and it's
Speaker 1: what and it's what you do with it subject matter
Speaker 1: why you know, and even like and this is this
Speaker 1: is I guess it was really my flex. Um. So
Speaker 1: I got fired from Sony. I got fired from Sony
Speaker 1: when Rick Rubin came in, and it wasn't like you
Speaker 1: suck your fired. It's like I'm bringing my people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Dion just told the people at Colorado like listen,
Speaker 1: y'all might want to hop in the trail. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: but but um, when I when I got fired, I
Speaker 1: had this is post ordinary People album works. Um a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, it is like the third album evolved.
Speaker 1: So I get fired. John is like, well, I still
Speaker 1: want you to work on my project, you know, come
Speaker 1: and light whatever. Cool, and he plays me this record
Speaker 1: green Light, but it was it was another beat. It
Speaker 1: was like a whole It was like it sounded like
Speaker 1: video game music a little bit well porn. Um. There's
Speaker 1: just a very great correlation between those sounds. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say how I know. I'm just gonna just gonna
Speaker 1: say you said it first. Um. But but I was like, man,
Speaker 1: this this melody is crazy. This song exactly dope. And
Speaker 1: he would he would do like a Vincent Price thing
Speaker 1: in the middle of it where Dre's on one to
Speaker 1: three red like I mean green like um. But anyway,
Speaker 1: he was doing this thing. I was like, let me
Speaker 1: get let me get the vocals. And I had just
Speaker 1: got fired. But I had just met my Lee and
Speaker 1: I was like, I had moved my l down to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: In my house, I put a studio in the basement
Speaker 1: and I got back and I had this files. I
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, we gotta fix this ship. And he
Speaker 1: was like, you know, all right yeah, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: let's gonna do this ship like a bass record. We're
Speaker 1: gonna make this ship fast. It's gonna we're gonna fam
Speaker 1: you this bitch out like we're gonna try to figure
Speaker 1: out how make this as as black as it can be?
Speaker 1: And we ended up doing it and after we finished,
Speaker 1: I was like, man, we need somebody to wrap on it.
Speaker 1: I'm like I tried. I called Dre and I'm like, hey, yo,
Speaker 1: I got this recommend John Legend and we just did
Speaker 1: it and send it. Andre is a very yeah. No.
Speaker 1: Nigga's like he's not a it's not a lot of playing. Oh,
Speaker 1: let me think about it. Give me a ride to it.
Speaker 1: He don't like, you don't really get that. It's like
Speaker 1: or all right, um, and he gave me all right.
Speaker 1: He was like give me a there too, like all right,
Speaker 1: and this is around Christmas, so the Christmas and New
Speaker 1: Year's Eve he calls me like aighte book studio tonight
Speaker 1: and he went in and did the verse on it
Speaker 1: and he was like, give me a minute, let me
Speaker 1: just do it by myself. So I left when we
Speaker 1: got something to eat. When I came back, he was like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I added some ship in that little middle part. You know,
Speaker 1: you ain't gotta keep this if you don't want to.
Speaker 1: And it was one to three and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: this thing is amazing. I was like, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much so because I'm like, because you know, now,
Speaker 1: it's like this is us, this is producing, this is
Speaker 1: us Me and Malay starting to produce. So I'm like
Speaker 1: our first record that we're getting off after me getting
Speaker 1: faster fired and you're delivering to the place that fired. You.
Speaker 1: M yeah, yeah, you're welcome. You're well, you're welcome, You're welcome. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I leave. I leave Arras because it got to
Speaker 1: a point where I think that familiarity breathe contempt thing happens,
Speaker 1: and I felt like I wanted to learn who I
Speaker 1: was outside of the protection of it's like the family,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And you know, So I
Speaker 1: left and the day I left Arras to that evening,
Speaker 1: I got hired at Sony No the next day did
Speaker 1: you know that you were you know? No? I literally
Speaker 1: like the Ares thing was like in a moment. It
Speaker 1: happened in a moment, and it was like, mm, I know,
Speaker 1: it just feels like it don't feel good to me.
Speaker 1: And I asked l A and he was like if
Speaker 1: if you're sure, yeah, all right, And I called my
Speaker 1: lawyer afterwards and was like as I walked out the building,
Speaker 1: like yo, I just left and he was like, why
Speaker 1: would you do that? Hold on, give me a minute.
Speaker 1: And at the time, Arista was around the corner from Sony,
Speaker 1: like literally around the corner, like take a a right
Speaker 1: and the right and the left and there you go right.
Speaker 1: And as I was walking out of Arison, He's like, hey,
Speaker 1: walk over to Sony right quick. And yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was the funniest ship because I ended up meeting
Speaker 1: with m Mark Jordan, who ended up like was the
Speaker 1: person who brought Rihanna and um. And Mark was like, YEO,
Speaker 1: can you send me a resume? And at the time
Speaker 1: I just didn't have one, like I did never had that.
Speaker 1: I never had one, and I just never had this ship, right.
Speaker 1: So I called my assistant in Atlanta, was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: can you put all this ship this in my CD
Speaker 1: rack and like one of these cases and send it
Speaker 1: up here right quick and like all the ship I
Speaker 1: worked on with my credits in it. So she sent
Speaker 1: this like sixty thing, this double C D heavy ass thing,
Speaker 1: um delta dash to me in New York and I
Speaker 1: went downstairs at the hotel and wrote resume on a
Speaker 1: piece of paper and zip that ship up and sent
Speaker 1: it over and boss. But it was like it was
Speaker 1: so ignorant, but it was like it now because I
Speaker 1: was like, if you want to read ship it shipped
Speaker 1: in there, all the credits in there, and Donnie I
Speaker 1: was like, um, he was like, tell the kid to
Speaker 1: come here, and like, you know, I want to meet him.
Speaker 1: And I met him the next day and he hired
Speaker 1: me send all yeah, yeah, send of ship. Yeah, say
Speaker 1: what you've done. Let me let me listen to what
Speaker 1: you've done. Just read about You can read too, it's
Speaker 1: credits in there, but but listen to it. Listen to it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you can't read about taste. You can hear a taste.
Speaker 1: You can hear it, but just somebody's just writing it
Speaker 1: down on something that was especially with so many credits,
Speaker 1: everybody can say they did something like where's the thread?
Speaker 1: Like I feel like that's if anything, I feel like
Speaker 1: there's a thread and taste in the things that I've do,
Speaker 1: have done, dealt with, contributed to you, my brother, You
Speaker 1: have taste. You are a taste maker. Thank you, And
Speaker 1: everybody is not what I mean not you know, maybe
Speaker 1: so reflex if you could just we we've we've run
Speaker 1: down a few names of all the things you've touched.
Speaker 1: He does sound so Paul but ironically touch Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on Mario, Yeah yeah ship um man Okay, uh okay,
Speaker 1: my group p A outcast, Goodie my Chelse, Tony Braxton, Um,
Speaker 1: John Legend, Wow t I young bloods Pink. I can't.
Speaker 1: That's like one of my favorite um and on Earth. Um.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't like doing this. Kill him Mike,
Speaker 1: how we put you on the spot bro O marian
Speaker 1: Um for real Kendrick m by Satellite UM A lot
Speaker 1: of ship um that's crazy just and I know it's
Speaker 1: way more more. We just needed that. This was a
Speaker 1: flex moment. Yeah, cap g Yeah, I don't know a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff consistently working me me, me me. Are
Speaker 1: you going with these things as you're working on us
Speaker 1: your album? Just in case you need some of that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm unvailable. Call me KP. We have a sex segment
Speaker 1: in our in our podcasts, we call it call it
Speaker 1: Top five keep these Top five, Top five on, Top
Speaker 1: top five hor and B Singers, Top five mm hmm okay,
Speaker 1: Top five to Luther Van draws, uh oh, like I
Speaker 1: can get through the whole lous five Top five Luther
Speaker 1: Van draws um Donnie had the way l Green the
Speaker 1: gospel according to my goodness, Anita Baker Usher, Can I
Speaker 1: say something? Yeah, I think And I can't say this enough.
Speaker 1: When Anita Baker came out on this stage in Bank
Speaker 1: and started to sing Happy Birthday, I almost cried. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's worth it, that's worth that is how powerful Happy
Speaker 1: Birthday her everything. She didn't sing raptor she sing Happy Birthday,
Speaker 1: and it was just a touch. She just went to
Speaker 1: this place like and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: y'all don't feel that. Yeah they do. They don't know
Speaker 1: it sometimes, but that's why it works, because it's a
Speaker 1: universal tone that that tone cheches that chord and like
Speaker 1: everybody who hears it unless you just ain't gotta hurt it.
Speaker 1: Whooped me just that little bit of happy. But because
Speaker 1: especially growing up such an Anita Baker fan to hear
Speaker 1: it live like that in that room with those dynamics
Speaker 1: on that myke like, y'all got everything in that room
Speaker 1: is just right. Usher ain't missing, he's not missing night
Speaker 1: after night, he's not missing so much so that Anita
Speaker 1: Baker can come in. It doesn't change it. I mean
Speaker 1: it changes it for the better, but doesn't it doesn't
Speaker 1: compare don to make you go all right when you
Speaker 1: go now no no, yeah. But but that is also
Speaker 1: a testament to what he grew up on it and
Speaker 1: what his standard is. Right. So I think that's you know,
Speaker 1: I think getting back to the other part is like
Speaker 1: that's the part that's missing the standards. Like we're talking
Speaker 1: about the show earlier, right, the thing um standards and
Speaker 1: understanding how good you gotta be to be able to
Speaker 1: be next to great people and wanting to like wanting
Speaker 1: to be in the room with the best. That means
Speaker 1: you gotta practice like the best. You gotta rehearse, you
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta take care of yourself, you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta do ship. You gonna put in real time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is your job. Yes, we all love it, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but but you get to do this as a job.
Speaker 1: This is like support your kids, pay for like pay
Speaker 1: for tuition doing this ship. Sometimes it's not a game. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: here we're going that dot KP Top five R and
Speaker 1: B songs, your record maker, you know, ahead he sends
Speaker 1: the CD, the double CD. You know, I wish I
Speaker 1: wish a strip club on the would go up to
Speaker 1: KP and say, all you do is spend record spending
Speaker 1: making break records dollar Billea, dollar Ville. Can I look
Speaker 1: at my phone? I just want to see what about?
Speaker 1: Come on, that's no rules your world. I'm going through
Speaker 1: my I listened to you know, because it changes every day,
Speaker 1: every day, just depending on the mood in the feeling.
Speaker 1: Top five okay, oh you know I'll stay and okay
Speaker 1: obviously never too much. Yeah, yeah, joint Paine Maze. Yeah,
Speaker 1: m that's a good one. Not Dorn, not rob Ba, no,
Speaker 1: but but without who's the jam? Yeah, um, Miguel such
Speaker 1: a great one. Um, did you have something to do
Speaker 1: with that? I just I gotta ask. That's wow that
Speaker 1: you ask that, right, not for real, but yeah, so
Speaker 1: like I gotta ask, Okay, so it would just make
Speaker 1: sense that yeah. But now now I don't have ship
Speaker 1: to do with Miguel's career in that way, right, but
Speaker 1: at the him the day that they did the record, right,
Speaker 1: it's gonna sound like crazy, but you can call Miguel
Speaker 1: a row Um Filana, who was managing at the time,
Speaker 1: Flanna Williams asked me to come to the studio and
Speaker 1: I don't know what for were just whatever, like that's
Speaker 1: my friend and um from Atlanta. We're in New York
Speaker 1: at Platinum House. That's way up studio Platinum whatever, uh platinum,
Speaker 1: let's platinum there you go, so we um we're going there.
Speaker 1: And they played this record I lose my ship like
Speaker 1: it's crazy. But it was like only like two minutes.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, man, if you'll just put
Speaker 1: a bridge on this song, please just try and and
Speaker 1: it was like this moment was like yeah, I think
Speaker 1: row was like all right, and then they so I
Speaker 1: feel like in a way like I pushed Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they hurt you. Yeah, they hurt like like but but
Speaker 1: again in a way not and not in a I did,
Speaker 1: but it's not. But it's what we're supposed to do
Speaker 1: and pushing each other creatively, right like because it's not
Speaker 1: like I did, they did it. But which is also
Speaker 1: the important part. Who you have in the room matters
Speaker 1: so much because if you've got somebody room that could
Speaker 1: possibly suck it up, they shouldn't be there. And if
Speaker 1: someone's there and the opinions, it's almost like you should
Speaker 1: have done something to be in that room, Like whether
Speaker 1: it's somebody sees something in you that special like us.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's not necessarily always about like I
Speaker 1: don't know if creativity is always about inclusion for everybody
Speaker 1: in the room. It's like it's like make sure that
Speaker 1: the the good information gets to the good people. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's that's the part. It's like we just
Speaker 1: gotta share. We got to share it with each other
Speaker 1: in that way. Okay aru, that was that three? Never
Speaker 1: too much? That was three? Okay um hours and hours? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that song okame on. You know what, I ain't
Speaker 1: even gotta say, y'all saw what happened? I tell y'all
Speaker 1: sing what happened? I told her? Yea, she came. She
Speaker 1: jumped on the record running. Yeah, it's due. What are
Speaker 1: you doing? Yeah, that's down, great R and B song.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be singing that song for years. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's a classic. Um, you don't have to call, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't have to call why not? Let it's okay girl,
Speaker 1: it's so where between. You don't have to call him friend?
Speaker 1: Oh like whoa you you don't have to call? Is?
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's always had, he's always had very
Speaker 1: legendary connective connected song and visual moments. Yeah, but that
Speaker 1: video that exactly, exactly exactly, Yeah, then fly, I know
Speaker 1: the choreography. Okay, you know, I don't call myself a dancer,
Speaker 1: but I can dance. But I do know anybody's ever
Speaker 1: missing when that number. I'm just saying that, if anybody's
Speaker 1: ever missing during that song, you let me know you
Speaker 1: have he gonna come fuck it up. That's what you
Speaker 1: ready for the skates and towards something with him. Goddamn.
Speaker 1: And that's fine, And that's fine. You'll hear about it.
Speaker 1: You'll know that I was there contributing that. Um. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's a great top five. Let's get into Let's
Speaker 1: get into the R and B voltro al Right, remember
Speaker 1: trying all the lines will come together, Michael McDonald. As
Speaker 1: we built this voltron, we want four things to build
Speaker 1: this R and B artist. Um, we want to know
Speaker 1: who you're gonna get the vocals, from the styling, from
Speaker 1: the performance style, and the passion of the artists. Let's
Speaker 1: start with the vocal. Who do you want your R
Speaker 1: and B singer to sing like m saying this is
Speaker 1: my this is my guy? Right? Okay, Well I mean
Speaker 1: it can okay, Um, I must say voice, ah, teddy,
Speaker 1: there as ship feeling. I'm gonna I'm so teddy. P
Speaker 1: for the vocal is aggressive. Yeah yeah, aggressive performance style Charlie, Charlie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I go, Charlie with the whistle, with the whistle, with
Speaker 1: the coming out of that whistle, that he's dancing, he
Speaker 1: is sank, he is controlling the crowd. He is he's yeah,
Speaker 1: he's all over that. Charlie Wilson might have, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: one of the greatest tones of all times. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like when I watched when I watched him, that's what
Speaker 1: made me start that challenge. I watched him sing the Yams.
Speaker 1: I watched him sing that. I was like, what is that?
Speaker 1: Charlie Wishing is a complete player. Oh and actually I
Speaker 1: don't even know if it's real. If if I come
Speaker 1: back to that, that performance style. Early Bobby Brown, he
Speaker 1: did have a highway. Does he still have a highway?
Speaker 1: In that line? Did he get out here? It's above
Speaker 1: the highways by the airport. He got a street like
Speaker 1: he don't lived there, He's not from there. He for Boston. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bobby was the studio out theretown which is now because
Speaker 1: what outcasts about it? Yeah, he Bobby. Bobby was a
Speaker 1: proud it's a problem and he he proud on it.
Speaker 1: Say it's like it's like he couldn't wait. Like man,
Speaker 1: it's like who wanted? Who wanted? Did you know? That
Speaker 1: is Edwards? He was Usher's road manager. He was also
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown's road back. I did not realize that he
Speaker 1: was my first manager. Okay, okay, he's the first I
Speaker 1: met Usher through him. He took you, brought me to
Speaker 1: his house and I said, ate dinner with moms and
Speaker 1: all the cool stuff. And Um, at the time, Usher
Speaker 1: had that that girl artist side. I think Melinda look
Speaker 1: Mexican like yeah yeah yeah, and they was they was
Speaker 1: there and I was, you know, hey, go like that
Speaker 1: the first time. Okay, Um, styling of the artists put
Speaker 1: that ship on leather pants. Oh, I'm gonna get this one.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna saying Usher, but I'm gonna say Usher for
Speaker 1: this one because he does the most and it comes off. Actually,
Speaker 1: let me see styling, because I might end up back
Speaker 1: at fucking Bobby Brown. Fuck um style of performance. No styling, styling,
Speaker 1: the drip and should then sometimes that's this. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have a jeld to see. I'm going to jel Toe
Speaker 1: What would you what? Because it's like, you know what,
Speaker 1: it won't be pretty. You won't feel like I'm going
Speaker 1: to jeld to see Timberland boots with a with a
Speaker 1: rain short set. Yeah, with a can from this show
Speaker 1: to the club or to the trap, anywhere I want
Speaker 1: to go like this in this leather jumpsuit. Yeah, these
Speaker 1: leather overalls. Yeahahah changed my life. And finally, who you
Speaker 1: getting the passion from the heart of the artists Donny
Speaker 1: the way, Like as long as I as long as
Speaker 1: I live, I can't sing along with Donnie hath A
Speaker 1: Way still because it feels like it's different every time
Speaker 1: I hear the timing. Yeah, yeah, the pockets. It's incredible, Man,
Speaker 1: you'd be like the same exaction. I know exactly what
Speaker 1: you're talking the way it's incredible. He's absolutely incredible. Um.
Speaker 1: That's a great vote, that's a great vultual. It's a
Speaker 1: great um. I feel like if if I can sprinkle
Speaker 1: something though, that would sprinkle some shot in it. Why not?
Speaker 1: Because it's like it's a commanding she does the vibe.
Speaker 1: It commands attention in a way like is it fair
Speaker 1: to use the word vibe something now like is the
Speaker 1: original though before they start turning into other is not?
Speaker 1: A vibe is a different kind of exist experience. It's
Speaker 1: an experience like a vibe to me is always like
Speaker 1: a song that didn't get finished. A vibe is almost listen,
Speaker 1: I respect that. I don't look at a vibe that way.
Speaker 1: Vibe is almost like, oh, you have to be into
Speaker 1: that in order to you. You don't with it, You
Speaker 1: ain't this, Yeah, you ain't known, Yeah, you know. This
Speaker 1: is just for the people that you know. They vibe
Speaker 1: on that over shot day is uni a universal experience.
Speaker 1: I'll wipe the sand off the shore, give me the
Speaker 1: world if it was mine. How do you do that?
Speaker 1: How do you wipe the sand off the shore? Like? How? Like?
Speaker 1: That's not a vibe, that's a bar. It's a full bar.
Speaker 1: So far it's a bar. This is no ordinary love.
Speaker 1: There's nothing stronger than pride. Yeah, Like it's it's almost
Speaker 1: like you hear like some about her music feels like
Speaker 1: she lives life between every album, like a full though,
Speaker 1: like a fool span of something, and then this album
Speaker 1: or this project or whatever it is, it's based in that,
Speaker 1: and you hear the reality in it. You hear the
Speaker 1: I hear where she is. I'm like, like I hear
Speaker 1: like where I can envision where she's walking. Yeah, next
Speaker 1: thing we know Kap's I'm like, yeah, you know, right
Speaker 1: to make sure that I told her to add a vamp,
Speaker 1: you know, to be crazy, you know what to be crazy? Know, No,
Speaker 1: it's possible in your life is very possible. Oh no,
Speaker 1: my life is very far as gumpy, Like I just
Speaker 1: end up in random ship. Yeah yeah, like and they say, so,
Speaker 1: what do you think? Well, since you asked, that's that's
Speaker 1: literally the that's how that's the alright story. Like like
Speaker 1: for as, he was like, what you're thinking? I was like, well,
Speaker 1: if you just maybe and he was like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: speak in it for real. He promised me a song
Speaker 1: time ago. Did you ask me the other night? I
Speaker 1: didn't get it. He was he was like he was
Speaker 1: in and out, so um, you know. I I was
Speaker 1: running around trying to be the host with the most
Speaker 1: fulfill my oblications. But she's just like, yeah, the reason
Speaker 1: why I'm here, Yeah, reason why I said he was coming.
Speaker 1: I took the job. I would love two things to
Speaker 1: get my song as well as you know some of
Speaker 1: that limited edition Chanelle he'd be wearing. I mean, just
Speaker 1: you know, yeah we can we can worry about that,
Speaker 1: you know, the Chanelle park later. But you know what
Speaker 1: I'm getting put it in there for. But the song.
Speaker 1: Help me buy some of the now. Man, help me,
Speaker 1: help me, help me, help me? Man, you hear me, man, Man,
Speaker 1: come on, man, um, we got one more part of
Speaker 1: the show, man that I think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: very part of very very very special about your travels
Speaker 1: in this thing, this thing. Man, you're about to eat,
Speaker 1: You're about to go, you go name it's card. I
Speaker 1: ain't saying on name. Are he's saying no name. He's
Speaker 1: saying no name. I ain't saying no name. I ain't
Speaker 1: saying no names. Who was down, what they did, who
Speaker 1: it was weird? And what they had he's saying, I
Speaker 1: ain't saying on names. The segment is about you telling
Speaker 1: the story funnier, fucked up, are funny and fucked up.
Speaker 1: I'm no good at these. I mean because I was
Speaker 1: raised by trappers, like so the short memory things like
Speaker 1: oh yeah, but I'm sure your mother should happen the
Speaker 1: other day, so you remember two? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: got you got stories, man, the only rule to the
Speaker 1: game is you can't say that name, which I ain't
Speaker 1: worried about you saying on names. So yeah, this is
Speaker 1: KP the Great J Great. I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 1: Take your time, brother, take it. This is like I
Speaker 1: am a real loss because it's either all the way
Speaker 1: fucked up and I just want to forget it because
Speaker 1: it's okay. So and this is this is gonna be
Speaker 1: funny because I think you're gonna you'll get it, um
Speaker 1: and everybody will get it. Actually, no, it was like
Speaker 1: a late night basketball game. It was like it was
Speaker 1: like a lot of like I know it's gonna go ahead,
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. No, you know what is I
Speaker 1: had to go to we had we had sessions, and
Speaker 1: we had to travel for these sessions. And every night
Speaker 1: we were waiting to go to this session, like it
Speaker 1: was every night we were told at this time, somebody's
Speaker 1: gonna call you and I'm gonna meet here and then
Speaker 1: we'll go to the studio. But this in particular time,
Speaker 1: we you know, like so just the third night that
Speaker 1: we're waiting to go to the studio, somebody finally calls.
Speaker 1: It's like one o'clock in the morning. Me, that's at
Speaker 1: the spot way out cool that get there. It's weird
Speaker 1: as a bunch of like it's just um weird athletics,
Speaker 1: um like bad team play and um. So we go
Speaker 1: through this weird space and then like, okay, now let's
Speaker 1: go to the studio. It's now four or five o'clock
Speaker 1: in the morning. But when you get there, it's like
Speaker 1: most studios you're going too, it's like reception blah blah blah. Right,
Speaker 1: you open the doors and you start hearing tropical sounds
Speaker 1: like Google cock like yeah, and you look ad you
Speaker 1: start seeing trees and and like you realize in the
Speaker 1: jungle and it's supposed to be. And they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: before you go ahead, you gotta change clothes. I'm like
Speaker 1: you're talking about And it was like, well, yes, the
Speaker 1: thing right now, I'm like, first of all, I was fresh,
Speaker 1: and the thing that they wanted to change me and
Speaker 1: my guy we're like who we who I was with fresh?
Speaker 1: Because we were like ship, we're showing up. They asked
Speaker 1: us to put all some some uniform that everyone there
Speaker 1: has to wear. And at this point, I'm like, we'll
Speaker 1: fucking ship. We're in We're in this basis, let me
Speaker 1: get that canteen, let me get, let me get, let
Speaker 1: me get some extra, like let me go all the way.
Speaker 1: And it's like and we're going in session and it's
Speaker 1: like full on jungle in here right like like on
Speaker 1: the wall there are like it was just it was why,
Speaker 1: it was like it was a lot. It was like
Speaker 1: the jungle ship everywhere, and all of a sudden, out
Speaker 1: of nowhere, this voice just started singing, but like he
Speaker 1: didn't say hey, y'all, y'all ready, It wasn't none of that.
Speaker 1: It was just like a and and they were doing
Speaker 1: a version of the person who I was with, and
Speaker 1: it was just like like tapped in though like in
Speaker 1: a very like scary like how did you do that?
Speaker 1: Kind of way? And when we went in, well, when
Speaker 1: the person came out, they were dressed like the person
Speaker 1: I was with, but y'all was dressed like we were
Speaker 1: dressed like ship. Yeah, I can't go no farther than that.
Speaker 1: But the song didn't, No song got done. We hotailed
Speaker 1: it out of there and that was it. It was like,
Speaker 1: did you keep the binoculars? I kept the jacket I
Speaker 1: was wearing it. I'm wearing a jacket in Rubber band
Speaker 1: Man video. It was a day before because it was
Speaker 1: the week before this happened, so I kept that I
Speaker 1: wish I might, I would might get a ship back.
Speaker 1: I got on the heat I got on in the
Speaker 1: video from the jungle. That's great. That's great. Listen you
Speaker 1: said on that, y'all gotta figure out who that is
Speaker 1: dressed like, that's great, that's great. You're a great man.
Speaker 1: You picked up listen. I don't know if someone names
Speaker 1: you KP the Great. Yes, this is radio DJ D
Speaker 1: Strong and shout out to D Strong because I was
Speaker 1: trying to find a DJ name giving you the proper name. Bro.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you're a great guy. Many thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 1: Find yourself A pace is doing great things. Man. I
Speaker 1: think that the um, the energy um, it procedes you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It speaks, it speaks before you,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that by the time you get on
Speaker 1: the scene, it's it's great business as usual. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: saying so and man, well, y'all are doing great business
Speaker 1: like this is actually like like like when he hit me,
Speaker 1: I was like hell yeah, like and trying to make
Speaker 1: sure I was on your schedule. Because I'm like, I like, no,
Speaker 1: I love what you'all are doing because it's it's fun,
Speaker 1: it's it's informed, but it's educational in a way, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying for you know, we started talking
Speaker 1: about influences and you know, he started telling these stories
Speaker 1: that it gives you a reason to go look at
Speaker 1: things and it might trigger something new with somebody else,
Speaker 1: like hopefully you know, yeah, well that's what it is.
Speaker 1: We gotta pass, you know, we gotta give this game
Speaker 1: some kind of way, like our kind of game absolutely
Speaker 1: actual yep. And and and in a constructive space. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think all of us, and I think everybody
Speaker 1: that you guys bring on that it comes from love first,
Speaker 1: like love the music, love of the idea of being
Speaker 1: able to continue it, you know, and having a place
Speaker 1: for us to exercise these gifts. You know, it's that
Speaker 1: love part is the main thing. So it's like you
Speaker 1: can you that energy, that the energy you talk about,
Speaker 1: it's just love. It's like I saw you doing hosting
Speaker 1: and I can tell you loved what you were doing,
Speaker 1: especially when you were on the Homie when he was
Speaker 1: on his head. I was like, he loved it. I
Speaker 1: had a ball you know what I'm saying it seeing
Speaker 1: like seeing all these cool people in the audience made
Speaker 1: it that much more fun for me. Like, Man, I'm
Speaker 1: hosting in front of but I was sitting next to
Speaker 1: I was sitting next to Run Red Run and LLL.
Speaker 1: I'm like, nuts, It's like it was like a full
Speaker 1: circle moment. I'm sitting this is real life heroes. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, you just can't. You can
Speaker 1: never take those moments for granted. Bro, those moments are
Speaker 1: just like but but it's the thing that will keep
Speaker 1: you going, Like it's the thing that keeps you young,
Speaker 1: and it keeps you keeps it fun. You know, Like
Speaker 1: I'm very grown and experienced at this point in my life,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't feel old yet because I
Speaker 1: still find fun and new ship. There's still some stimulation
Speaker 1: going on, absolutely still some growth. I'm always still learning.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well brother brother KP to great man. Listen, man,
Speaker 1: we thank you for for coming by a humble set up,
Speaker 1: no name. That's a great story, bro. We are we
Speaker 1: are waiting for um the great contribution. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying to R and B Money, this is the
Speaker 1: this is the first installment. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: of your contribution to R and B Money, we will
Speaker 1: be looking for more. What I'm saying, we're calling on
Speaker 1: you for counsel to everybody else. Yeah, man, anything, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Yeah, thank you man, and listen. Man,
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