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Speaker 1: Devin Williams to the New York Mets. Now, you played

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Speaker 1: krats for David Stearns and Milwaukee. Correct, Okay, he didn't

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Speaker 1: call you. He called Devin Williams and said, three years

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Speaker 1: like fifty ish. There's all kinds of weird stuff in

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Speaker 1: there with the furrals and bonuses and things, but three

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Speaker 1: years fifty ish. It's ironic, isn't it. Devin Williams shows

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Speaker 1: up with the Yankees last year, gets a lot of

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Speaker 1: hate early on in the season, got better. Actually, his

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Speaker 1: home road splits were drastic in favor of him being

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Speaker 1: much better at home. He said he really loved New

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Speaker 1: York and you gotta believe him now or maybe the

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Speaker 1: Mets just paid him way more than everyone else. What

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Speaker 1: do you think about the move?

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Speaker 2: I love that I get to talk about the whole

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Speaker 2: New York not being a thing the reason, Like, it's

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Speaker 2: not the city of New York that makes players bad.

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Speaker 2: It's how you do in the field. Like, it's not

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Speaker 2: the pressure of the spotlight. You could say he's soft

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Speaker 2: or he's not soft. He can't handle any like I

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Speaker 2: want to like disprove that as much as I can.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what this couldn't have been probably more

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Speaker 2: of a slam dunk. What does David Stearns do with pitching?

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Speaker 2: How does he go and get pitching when he was

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Speaker 2: in Milwaukee or in New York? Right or wrong? What

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Speaker 2: does he do? Because he's had a track record this

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Speaker 2: year didn't work for starting pitching, but he goes and

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Speaker 2: finds places where you know what, this guy was undervalued

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Speaker 2: because of this. This guy didn't do this. So let's

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Speaker 2: just dive right into Devin Williams numbers with the Yankees.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think he struggled? Wow, he was probably tipping. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: oh so he just picked up a tip while he

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Speaker 2: was in New York. Oh, the American League's tougher. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's not the case. Oh L Central is tough. Wait no,

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Speaker 2: THENL Central's not that tough. Or the fact that his

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Speaker 2: change up percentage, which is his best pitch and is

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Speaker 2: clearly one of his best pitches in baseball, was up

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Speaker 2: almost ten percent to both lefties and righty's. The number

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Speaker 2: is not quite ten percent, but he starts throwing way

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Speaker 2: more of his best pitches, his best pitch, and so

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Speaker 2: teams started to see it. So that could be just

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Speaker 2: I mean, just a surface level. Hey, you know what,

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Speaker 2: why could this guy do better than what he did?

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Speaker 2: He could outperform what he did last year, like just

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Speaker 2: his pitch usage, and who saw him use his pitches

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Speaker 2: correctly and successfully and win the Trevor Hoffman Award.

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Speaker 3: David starts, Yeah, I don't know. Well, sorry I was listening.

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Speaker 4: Oh shit, Oh no, sorry, I've sang with Steve Perry.

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Speaker 5: My bad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Devin, WiM's good for you, bro. For years fifty

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Speaker 4: one million? Wow, coming off a down year. This is

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Speaker 4: what people expected him to give off coming off a

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Speaker 4: good year. So the biggest question to me is one usage,

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Speaker 4: like Crats was talking about, but are they counting on

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Speaker 4: him just having a bad year and he's going to

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Speaker 4: bounce back?

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Speaker 3: And then two, what does this do for Edwin Diaz.

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Speaker 3: I know they've come out said, oh we're gonna keep

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Speaker 3: Edwin Diaz and it's not a big.

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Speaker 4: Deal, but do you really want to have to back

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Speaker 4: end bullpen guys making over fifty million over life of

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Speaker 4: a contract.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot for most teams. So the Mets can

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 4: But happy for Devin, happy that the Mets believe he

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Speaker 4: just had a down year. Happy for Mets, fans. But

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Speaker 4: I mean, he didn't perform in the Yankees, so going

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Speaker 4: to the Mets maybe less pressure.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But happy for your Devin. Fifty one million is nice.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Ja, you said you said this is what he

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Speaker 2: would have gotten had he had a good year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean seventeen million dollars a year for I disagree.

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Speaker 4: Pretty damn you thought would got more.

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Speaker 2: I thought he would have gotten more. I thought he

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Speaker 2: would have been a five year I don't think he

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Speaker 2: the the hater status, you know, because they're linked because

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Speaker 2: they're both Brewers. But I mean, you're talking about a

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Speaker 2: the last once he became the closer, so it's basically

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Speaker 2: three years he was a closer twenty two, twenty three,

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Speaker 2: twenty four he had below a two er and his

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Speaker 2: it he was hurt the year before, But like I

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Speaker 2: I thought he was that So I thought this for

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Speaker 2: three years for the Mets, if he bounces back to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but what were you thinking if you just said

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Speaker 4: five years eighty He got a better deal than that.

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Speaker 2: Right, No, No, no, five years. I thought he was.

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Speaker 2: I thought he would his contract would go more than

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Speaker 2: I mean, just all about the guaranteed him ount. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he gets eighty eighty five. That's way more than fifty one.

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Speaker 2: I get it. He gets him back to free ag

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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: If this deal was so, he's getting three years seventeen,

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Speaker 4: So if you had five years and thirty four more,

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Speaker 4: that's eighty five. So this is right on target. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I mean, really, five years for a lever is tough

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Speaker 3: Other than Eater.

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Speaker 4: I know, I know Diaz looking for five years and

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Speaker 4: one hundred probably, but he's like one of the ultimate

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Speaker 4: closers of all time, Devin Wings coming off a bad year.

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Speaker 3: Three years fifty one, it's pretty damn good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but you've maybe gotten more if he

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Speaker 4: was if he goes out and has a zero one

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 4: Sure he might have gotten three years sixty, but three

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Speaker 4: years fifty one for me is pretty good. Doesn't have

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Speaker 4: to move either, He could just stay in the same place.

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Speaker 1: He said he loved taking the train to work, genuinely,

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Speaker 3: Just switch his trains.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you do. You love taking the train to work?

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Speaker 3: Craft, I love.

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Speaker 2: I hated taking the train as a visiting player when

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Speaker 3: And I think five is the Yankee stream.

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Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved it. I hated I hated

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Speaker 1: While, I believe it's isn't it four.

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Speaker 3: Seven sounds?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I get sick to trade much these days, even them

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Speaker 1: not have a train in the cards when I'm commuting. No,

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Speaker 1: they don't have trades down in Toms River anyway. Let's

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Speaker 1: get some thoughts from the mets up hosts. They've been

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Speaker 1: hot on many topics lately, and this is actually a

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Speaker 1: rare move where they didn't like what David Stearns did.

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Speaker 1: But here's just a little snippet of what they said

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Speaker 1: about Devin Williams.

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Speaker 3: I got the numbers.

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Speaker 6: So Williams inherited six runners when he entered the game

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Speaker 6: this season, he allowed zero to score.

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Speaker 3: I like hearing that. I think that's a good stat.

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Speaker 6: Williams left ten runners on when departing the next relievers

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Speaker 6: are allowed seven of them to score, So seventy percent

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Speaker 6: of the time when he left the game, the Yankees

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Speaker 6: relievers allowed them to score one hundred percent of the

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Speaker 6: none of them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that was just a little clip of them

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Speaker 1: going over inherited runners career worst for seven nine er

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Speaker 1: did it last night. They didn't love it. They thought

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Speaker 1: it was okay, And of course we might as well

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Speaker 1: push to the next part of the equation here, which

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Speaker 1: AJ alluded to, what do you think happens? Do you

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Speaker 1: the reports are true. He wants another five years one hundred.

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Speaker 1: The Mets don't want to give him that, and they're

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Speaker 1: probably have their numbers set. Whatever they set their line.

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Speaker 1: Let's say it's for eighty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 4: Sure, I mean Diaz and Williams in the back end

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Speaker 4: would be pretty nice. But can they get it done?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Is there another team out there? Is Will the Dodgers

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Speaker 4: Is there somebody out there that once and more than

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Speaker 4: the Mets do? Apparently, because again they already have a

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Speaker 4: this is where David Searns tries to get cute sometimes,

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Speaker 4: But instead, you know, is he gonna try and get

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Speaker 3: I don't know, we'll see.

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Speaker 4: But what if I'm a Mets fan, Do I want

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Hell yeah, because then it's like eighth is lockdown, ninth

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Speaker 4: a starting pitcher. So I hope they sign them all.

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Speaker 4: Like I said yesterday about the Yankees, you're the mess.

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Speaker 4: You have the money, go sign everybody.

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Speaker 1: Blue Jays maybe maybe the Blue Jays go after someone

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Speaker 3: It seems like, what do you do with Hoffman? Then?

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Speaker 3: What do you do with Hoffman?

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Speaker 1: Set up Man?

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Speaker 3: I mean to have problem to have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he excelled in Philly as the seventh eighth inning guy.

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Speaker 2: They had Alvarado in the closer role. I get it.

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Speaker 2: In the postseason, you know what, him and Strom gave

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Speaker 2: You know, he kind of shifted a little bit. He

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Speaker 2: did close some, but it was mostly that Strom seventh

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Speaker 1: They might have been a diez away from a World

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Speaker 1: Series win just now. I mean, Hoppin was good for

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Speaker 3: The playoffs, wasn't the problem now, But he gave.

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Speaker 1: Up one homer that that did end up costing them,

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Speaker 4: You can make a lot of arguments of this and

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Speaker 4: that and blah blah blah if you lose the World Series.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, come on, he was pretty good for

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Speaker 3: I know he gave it even in the regular season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's what he said.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's what he said. Sonny Gray is now a member

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Speaker 1: Three that stand out here from the press conference. This

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Speaker 1: Aj Sonny Gray really hated playing with Kratz that much.

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Speaker 4: He did, I mean it was all Krats's fault, I

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, we all know Sonny Gray hated his time.

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Speaker 4: I don't know about Krats, but we all have that

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Speaker 3: I have mine. I'm sure Krats maybe has one or two.

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Speaker 4: Was like, eh, that wasn't really a fit and didn't

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Speaker 4: why because he's a Red Sox now and you know

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Speaker 4: So now he gets to take his shots, and Chapman's

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Speaker 5: What we want.

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Speaker 3: We want more people to be honest and also we

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Speaker 4: Let's not criticize him at all. I mean, other than

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Speaker 2: Well, good news was it wasn't my catching that bothered him,

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Speaker 2: I think Chappie wanted to get back of the Yankees,

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Speaker 1: I like that, though I totally disagree with you Kratz.

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Speaker 1: I think he cannot wait to shove it to Yankee fans.

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Speaker 1: Remember maybe first Yeah twenty eighteen booed off during about

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Speaker 1: adding and he had been booed off many times prior

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Speaker 1: Sonny Gray, smirk, what is it? And how rude of him?

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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. So you agree on that one, right,

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Speaker 1: he cannot I agree, try and shove it to Yankee

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Speaker 2: I had. It's only a two hour show, but I

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Speaker 2: then there's a Yankee organization, and I think Chappy Eradus

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Speaker 1: Bingo And what was the thing you wanted me to

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Speaker 1: ask him?

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Speaker 5: For real?

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Speaker 1: What do you want me to write down?

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Speaker 2: The pre trade extension that he had he had worked

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Speaker 1: For Wow that actually is pretty juicy right there.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm, it wasn't. Can we not get the answer?

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Speaker 1: Do we know who the team was? Are we allowed?

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Speaker 2: I am about eighty five percent sure I remember the team.

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Speaker 2: So that's why I didn't say what the team was.

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Speaker 2: But so I have a division. I had to give

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Speaker 2: speculation if I don't. If I'm like Ken, I gotta

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Speaker 2: get it one hundred percent across the line before I

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Speaker 2: But it was not in It was not in the

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Speaker 1: Ironic that mister conspiracy theory, which I happen to love,

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Speaker 2: Sunny because it was his words. It was his words,

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Speaker 2: not mine. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say definitively

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll make we'll ask Sonny when he comes on

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Speaker 1: at some point. I don't know if you were on

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Speaker 2: It was if you had an eighty guess it was.

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Speaker 3: Was it the Marlins? Was it the Race?

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Speaker 4: Was it the Marlins marl was it expos Was it

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Speaker 3: Was it the.

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Speaker 1: True? Hey, wait a j I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: were He's not going to say, Adrian, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you were on with us when the great deal happened.

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Speaker 1: But what do you think about this for Boston, especially

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Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily comping Sonny Gray to Dylan Cees, but

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Speaker 1: Who if he has another nice year, right, I know

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Speaker 1: There were many fans like I was disagreeing with on

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, he can.

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Speaker 4: Yes, he can, he can't. He won't be a one

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Speaker 4: or two. But didn't Craig Breslow say we're only looking

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Speaker 4: for ones or twos? Isn't that what his quote was?

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Speaker 4: Nothing against Sonny Gray. I love Sonny Gray and when

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Speaker 4: Is I think Sonny Gray is a nice three to

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Speaker 4: And yes, he can start a playoff game in an

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Speaker 4: Shane Bieber gave the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 3: Can you do that? Absolutely, But he's not going to

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Speaker 3: give you nine innings?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt And most don't. Right, how many guys

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Speaker 1: do you really trust in the playoffs to go deep

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Speaker 1: into games and get through a third, fourth, whatever time

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Speaker 1: through the orders. So I don't know. I felt like

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Speaker 1: some people probably loved the deal, some people that were

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Speaker 1: against it, and like it's like a one year twenty years.

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Speaker 3: Some people are going to be against anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. Yeah, oh man, you should see Padres

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Speaker 1: twitter about Dylan Cees. They're like, if Ruben Diablo can't

450
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Speaker 1: fix him, nobody can. I'm like, all right, relax, that's

451
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Speaker 1: a little bit much. They're like, he's cooked, he's inconsistent,

452
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Speaker 1: he'll never have it, blah blah blah. I'm like, okay,

453
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Speaker 1: let's not act like this guy's never had good seasons before.

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Speaker 1: His best seasons actually were before San Diego.

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Speaker 3: So maybe Ruban Dieblo didn't fix him. Maybe he was

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Speaker 3: Ethan Katz that had the magic touch with him. I

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Speaker 3: don't know. Listen, Blue Jay's got something. And Pete Walker

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Speaker 3: you know him, you know him walk Democrats. Pete Walker's

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Speaker 3: pretty damn good.

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Speaker 4: He's fixed a lot of guys. I mean, not every

461
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Speaker 4: guy agrees and does everything that. Every team says. You

462
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Speaker 4: got two hundred and ten million two according to Scott,

463
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Speaker 4: but it's just two ten in the contract. Reason to

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Speaker 4: figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Don't get me started on that. You had a lot

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Speaker 1: of hate mail about you.

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Speaker 3: You got a lot of hate mail.

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Speaker 1: No, you did think you got one dollar? You think

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Speaker 1: five is all the same money you got.

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Speaker 4: Never say that now, Never did I say that, Never

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Speaker 4: ever have I ever?

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Speaker 1: you have to listening. AJ, who's sitting next to you,

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Speaker 1: tell everyone.

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Speaker 2: A J can't hear anything, So I'll tell you the

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Speaker 2: Gary Sheffield otherwise known as Bug AJ has nothing, so

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Speaker 2: we never get we never get to hear anything. But

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Speaker 2: our street cred just went way up because Chef is

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Speaker 2: on the show.

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Speaker 1: Chef, good to see you man, How you doing?

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Speaker 5: I see you?

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Speaker 7: I just popped my head in the grove and ran

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Speaker 7: to a J. I was in there shopping.

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Speaker 1: You can't hide these days, chef. Basically one event and

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Speaker 1: you and you turn, you might see AJ with a

504
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Speaker 1: mic and then get caught exactly. Yeah, well, how's the

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Speaker 1: off season going for you? I mean obviously watching all

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Speaker 1: the trades and signings going on, any observations so far?

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Speaker 7: You know, schore Bert I just told you know they

508
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Speaker 7: talk about the Phillies, going back to the Phillies.

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Speaker 5: I just think that he's the perfect fit for the

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Speaker 5: Mets and that's why I have him.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Okay do you think Yeah, so we were going

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Speaker 1: to get into this, and it's actually good to ask

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Speaker 1: you and AJ, and maybe you can ask AJ after

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Speaker 1: you answer. But there was like a story this past

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Speaker 1: week in the New York Post about, oh, you know,

516
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Speaker 1: maybe some of the Mets players aren't getting along like

517
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Speaker 1: you know, Jeff McNeil and Lindor went at it again.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think some of that is good for a

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Speaker 1: team to shake it up a little bit?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 7: I mean that that tells me they're holding each other accountable.

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Speaker 7: That's what it means to me. You know, you're gonna

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Speaker 7: have teammates that don't get along, that's okay, but you

524
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Speaker 7: have to have that enforcer to make sure that everybody

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Speaker 7: has the one goal in mind, that's to win.

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Speaker 1: So outside of that, who cares.

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Speaker 2: Wait to me? Everybody needs an enforcer. But Chef, did

528
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Speaker 2: you ever play? Who was that guy for you? Because

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Speaker 2: some people will look at Chef and be like, including

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Speaker 2: our EP executive producer, he's scared of Chef, he's scared

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Speaker 2: of you. Okay, So who was the enforcer for you?

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Speaker 2: Who is the guy that would make sure you didn't

533
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Speaker 2: get out of line? Because you're not perfect, not everybody's perfect,

534
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Speaker 2: and somebody's got to be able to have the kahones

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Speaker 2: to step up and say, well, whoa chef? Who is

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Speaker 2: that guy for you?

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Speaker 7: Every teammate, every teammate, every teammates get the same treatment.

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Speaker 7: So if you talk to me, I get to because

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Speaker 7: it's that we all is want we want.

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Speaker 5: And when we go into the in.

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Speaker 7: The locker room, if somebody see that I'm not doing

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Speaker 7: what I'm supposed to be doing, they should have called

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Speaker 7: me out and vice versa. And I think that that

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Speaker 7: makes for a healthy team because that way the manager

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Speaker 7: can't he can't see everything.

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Speaker 1: The coaches can't see everything.

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Speaker 5: You have to police each other.

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Speaker 2: Love that. Why do you think, why do you think

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Speaker 2: Schwarber is a good fit for the Mets over over

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Speaker 2: any other team.

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Speaker 7: Well, I just think that the amount of home runs

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Speaker 7: he's hitting at the top of the lineup, I think

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Speaker 7: he'll balance that lineup even better than Peter Alonzo. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 7: you have a guy hitting in the middle of the lineup,

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Speaker 7: But the way the game is played nowadays, hitting deep

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Speaker 7: in the lineup and turning that lineup over is the

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Speaker 7: most important thing.

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Speaker 5: And when you're.

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Speaker 7: Hitting fourth and fifth, you're kind of irrelevant at that position.

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Speaker 7: You know, you need the one, two, and three guy

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Speaker 7: to have all the juice in your lineup because the

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Speaker 7: way the game is played now, you just want to

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Speaker 7: keep the lineup turning over so those guys could get

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Speaker 7: back up there, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, before you let me, before we let you go,

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Speaker 3: I think you can hear me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if with your waggle the way you waggled your bat, people,

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Speaker 4: it's an iconic stance of all stances.

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Speaker 3: Could you hit in today's game throwing guys throwing a hundred?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 7: And that's I Me and my son was talking about

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Speaker 7: this yesterday, and I told him velocity is easy to hit.

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Speaker 5: That's the easiest part to hit.

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Speaker 7: All the movement that they throw, and they talk about

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Speaker 7: the spin and all of that, I'll have.

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Speaker 5: I'll have a lot of these hitters.

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Speaker 7: I mean these pictures like Sodo, you know, he has

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Speaker 7: a lot of these pictures behind in the count. If

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Speaker 7: you don't chase, then average picture, because you have a

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Speaker 7: lot of velocity, become below average. And so you can

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Speaker 7: take the top picture right now, right and say who

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Speaker 7: is this guy? And you'll say the guy from Detroit,

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Speaker 7: the guy from Pittsburgh. And basically what you do is

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Speaker 7: make those guys two pitch pictures. All you have to

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Speaker 7: do is make those guys two pitch pictures. And and

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Speaker 7: the pitch that they'd like to put you away with.

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Speaker 7: Tell yourself, I'm not swinging at that pitch. I know

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Speaker 7: what it looks like, i know what it does. I'm

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Speaker 7: not even attempting to swing at that pitch because you

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Speaker 7: can't hit it.

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Speaker 5: So you make him a two pitch picture. You make it,

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Speaker 5: you bring them closer to you.

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Speaker 4: You're smart, by the way, and I love what he

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Speaker 4: talks about it.

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Speaker 1: I do too. I can and listen to it all day.

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Speaker 1: We'll let you go on this chef. So it was

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Speaker 1: an awesome world series. I'm sure you enjoyed it. We

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Speaker 1: haven't had you on since I haven't senior since then.

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Speaker 1: What were you talking to Justin Bieber about? We got

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Speaker 1: a good shot of you and be.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: But didn't they say like, oh, there's Bieber And I

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Speaker 1: was like, no, there's chef.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they they noticed him at a baseball game and

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Speaker 7: not me. But that's okay. I was I was doing

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Speaker 7: a good deed.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 7: He was a kid that he talked about. He had

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Speaker 7: a new born. I think it's about his kid is

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Speaker 7: one years old. He was talking about that and how

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Speaker 7: he wanted to get his life on the right track

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Speaker 7: and get it the way it needs to be. And

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Speaker 7: I told him, you know, it's not about your failures

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Speaker 7: in life, it's about your redemption. And I think God

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Speaker 7: has given you another chance to your kids and and

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Speaker 7: so don't ruin it for them. And so that's basically

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Speaker 7: what we talked about. It was all about the family,

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Speaker 7: you know, Haley and his and his wife and his kid.

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Speaker 7: It was all about them, you know, doing it for them.

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Speaker 7: And he wants to do better. That's really cool. That's

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Speaker 7: good stuff family advice to.

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Speaker 5: Yeah of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it went very viral. Well, chef, good to

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Speaker 1: see you man. Keep giving AJ a hard time out there,

626
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,239
Speaker 1: and we'll see. Will you hit the winter meetings by

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Speaker 1: the way, will we see you there?

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Speaker 5: Uh no, I'm going to Miami right now.

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Speaker 7: I'm heading down there to a couple of golf tournaments

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Speaker 7: Melbourne Golf and DJ Cally.

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Speaker 5: Well they invited me at the last minute.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, so I said, I told my wife. I said,

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Speaker 7: I'm getting in the car and I'm gone. So I say,

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Speaker 7: let me stop over the grove and get something to

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Speaker 7: eat and shop a little bit. And I ran into

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Speaker 7: AJ and here we are there you go.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 1: We'll have fun down there, all right.

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Speaker 5: Good to see you appreciate it. Thank you. Guys.

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Speaker 2: You're blaming.

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Speaker 6: You're saying Francisco indoors relationship with Jeff mcgeeal and wansto

642
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Speaker 6: doom the season and then you click it. And I

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Speaker 6: also think it's incredibly, incredibly lazy and like some other

644
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Speaker 6: stuff I won't claim here to be like Wan Soda

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Speaker 6: is a hard working guy Francisco Indoor all. He cares

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Speaker 6: about fashion, makes it seem like Francisco Indoor is not

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Speaker 6: really worried about what's going on the field to see

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Speaker 6: my Francisco Lindor, unlike Wan Soda, which is crazy because

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Speaker 6: the original witch hunt was Juan Soto not being motivated

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Speaker 6: to come play for this team. Now it's Soto is

651
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Speaker 6: the motivated one. Lindor worries about fashion, that's his big thing,

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Speaker 6: and that feels so fucking lazy.

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Speaker 8: Especially when part of the thesis from the first part

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Speaker 8: of this article was about Lindor being too intense about

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Speaker 8: what was going on in the field, letting it defensive

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Speaker 8: laps his frustration boil over after that, but rating a teammate,

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Speaker 8: so it just kind of they kind of lose a point.

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Speaker 8: Ins You kind of go back and forth in between

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Speaker 8: what all this could have been.

660
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Speaker 6: It feels like it's been written at different times and

661
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 6: it got put together, which.

662
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Speaker 8: Is also possible, Like that's also kind of it. And

663
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 8: then again, I want to go back to Dsha articles.

664
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 8: It's a great reporting this article. We hope to have

665
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 8: Dshaw on the show soon. Last year was Winter Meeting,

666
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 8: so maybe we can make that annual thing. But Lindor

667
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 8: talking about Sodo here He's completely different than how I

668
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 8: was talking about how he responds to his first season

669
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 8: with the club. I tried to hug too much, and

670
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 8: he has a good understanding of what he can hug

671
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,719
Speaker 8: and stay within that. He hasn't changed once, So he's

672
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 8: definitely head of where I was and ahead of his

673
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 8: age too. It's like understanding that these guys could possibly

674
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 8: have not they don't they They probably aren't best friends.

675
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 6: I think we're pretty certain these two guys are not

676
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 6: best friends. Yeah, I'd be making bets that they are.

677
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 6: I think realistically they are coworkers. I think they work

678
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 6: on the same team together and they're trying to accomplish

679
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 6: the same thing, which is when getting games for the

680
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 6: New York Mets. There's also like gets underscored a little

681
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 6: bit too. There's a variety in difference in these guys too,

682
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 6: just personally, Like Jan Sota is a twenty six year old,

683
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 6: twenty seven year old who just got seven hundred million

684
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 6: dollars and we've known that. Like he pretty much like

685
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 6: goes home and watches baseball like he's just baseball, baseball, baseball.

686
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 6: He really doesn't do much. He has been out on

687
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 6: the town recently, but he really isn't doing much during

688
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 6: the season.

689
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: That's good stuff from Mark and James on Mets Uff.

690
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: They were talking about the article in the New York

691
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: Post from Mike Puma about the Mets getting into it

692
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: a little bit with Jeff McNeil and Francisco Lindor part

693
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: two this past season mid season, and then also the

694
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: difference between Lindor and so that, Yeah, that one definitely

695
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: sounds like quite a stretch revealed. And remember the New

696
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: York Post does put flashy headlines out there. That's just

697
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: part of their mo so I wouldn't be that surprised

698
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: about that part of it. If you know their themes,

699
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: this is how they put titles out there. Lindor McNeil

700
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: battled again and met shortstops. Chili rapport with Soto helped

701
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: doom twenty twenty five season. I want to put like

702
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: a dot dot dot and David Stearns did not believe

703
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: in buying big starters.

704
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: That's it.

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00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 5: Stop.

706
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: It's like stop it stop.

707
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 2: It's like it's like AJ's favorite movie, Moneyball. They didn't

708
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 2: say anything about Zeno, Mouler, and Hudson. This article is

709
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: sallacious because they didn't talk about the fact that they

710
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: went forty three straight games without a starter going past

711
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: the fifth inning, Like, let's just let's call spade a spade,

712
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: that's what doomed the season. And oh yeah, they were

713
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: still one game out of making the playoffs. So if

714
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: you don't think the Mets are going to be back

715
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: next year and playoff contending team, and you're wrong because

716
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: they can't. Never say this, but they can't be as

717
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: bad starting pitching as they were this past year.

718
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna I'm gonna add one more thing to this.

719
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Speaker 4: Where are the quotes from McNeil. Where are the quotes

720
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 4: from Lindor? Do we have quotes from them in this article.

721
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about that though, I'm gonna.

722
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so I have, so then why not

723
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 4: but at least go to him and say, hey, Lindor

724
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 4: just declined to comment or McNeil declined to comment, or

725
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 4: Sodo declined to comment. Because we showed the tweets of

726
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 4: a guy who once wrote an article about me without

727
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 4: asking me. His name is Andrew Baggerley. Why not ask

728
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 4: the guy? Why not go to the player and say, hey,

729
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 4: I'm hearing this about you before I write this article,

730
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 4: let me let yourself defend you. But instead they want

731
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 4: to get the headlines. And that's I don't care about this.

732
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: I honestly don't care about this. And we listen. Chef

733
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 4: just came on and Chef said, what happens. We won

734
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: the World Series in two thousand and five and it

735
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 4: wasn't all roses and you know, pedals and everything whatever

736
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 4: you want want to say, butterflies and happiness. I mean,

737
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: there was arguments, but amongst players. Hell, we tried to

738
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 4: kick off the Marcel Marte. Well not us, but Ozzie

739
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 4: in kicked off the Marcel Marte in the middle of

740
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 4: the season. And then the players were like, hey, we

741
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 4: kind of need them, can we bring them back?

742
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: And He's like, oh yeah, okay. But anyways, like it's

743
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: not like so this is a non story to me.

744
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 4: Here's the thing about and this is one of the

745
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 4: reasons why I respect Ken and so many reporters out there.

746
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 4: Go to the player and ask the player. Ask Jef McNeil,

747
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 4: call him. You can get his number. Call Francisco Lindor

748
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 4: for call Won Soto and say, hey, man, before I

749
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 4: write this article, I want to talk to you. If

750
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 4: you don't do it. To me, the story's Nolan Void.

751
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 4: But that's the way reporters work certain ones, and if

752
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 4: you don't do it the right way, to me, it's

753
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 4: Nolan Voyd.

754
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: I want to We're getting close to the show, so

755
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: I want to get to this part too. For what's

756
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: the beef? Did you guys see the brandon Neimo comments

757
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: when he was in his intro virtual presser kind of thing.

758
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: I felt like you got like a little subtle shot

759
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: out there. Nimo is very very media savvy, he's a

760
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: very nice guy. He's always available whatever. So I thought

761
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: this was this was cute, this was clever. Let's run this.

762
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 9: You know, the pitching is really the first thing that

763
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 9: you need to have, and some guys like to call

764
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 9: it run prevention. And when you can, when you, you know,

765
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 9: combine the pitching with the defense.

766
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: And what I saw was that is.

767
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 9: Already there and you're not You're not losing a lot

768
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 9: of pieces of that. And I think that that's something

769
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 9: that Sey really prides himself on and that's good.

770
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 1: So for context here, when David Stearns, the Mets president

771
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: baseball ops, had his press conference after the season, talking

772
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: about what went wrong, He said the words run prevention

773
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: a billion times, which, to me and to many on

774
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,720
Speaker 1: social media cringe, like, let's just say pitching in defense

775
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: the run prevention thing, like you want to say it

776
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: sometimes okay, but over and over again. AJ, that was

777
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: Nemo taking a shot at his former team. Your run

778
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: prevention sucked, and that's why I got a phone call

779
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: and asked to waive my no trade clause and move

780
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: on to a team that has run prevention and also

781
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: is going to make me millions of dollars more since

782
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm moving to Texas with no state income tax on

783
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: my contract.

784
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, and I like it. You know, he don't

785
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 4: play for the Mets anymore. Take your shots. Take your shot, boys,

786
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 4: He's not going back to the Mets anytime soon. He's

787
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 4: got a long term deal. They asked him to move

788
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 4: his no trade.

789
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: He did it.

790
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 4: Good for you, Brandon Nimmo. And if you feel like

791
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 4: it was a shot at you, personally, fire back, dude,

792
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 4: fire away.

793
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 3: Boys.

794
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 5: I love this.

795
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, we want more, We want more of this, and

796
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 4: we're getting it.

797
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: And then everyone's like, oh, why is he so bitter?

798
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: Screw that man?

799
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

800
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: Also, it's not like he was he wasn't the problem.

801
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: He had a good offensive season. He was fine.

802
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: It was great. That's why the Rangers one of them.

803
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: They didn't have offense. The Rangers are locked in on

804
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: run prevention. Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna dog him all.

805
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: You know, his defense has really declined and all that stuff.

806
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: The Ragers need to hit the base ball. That is

807
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: why they got him. So good for him. Talk to

808
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: his boy de Gram says it's awesome over here. Says,

809
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: you're gonna save fourteen point two percent on your every

810
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: year's contract, so that'll be a few million back in

811
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: your pockets.

812
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 1: Very nice. Yeah, life's gonna be good for Brandon Nemo

813
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: and never hurts to have an extra little chip on

814
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: your shoulder. You get a phone call from the team

815
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna basically retire with, and they're like,

816
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna trade you. We want to switch things up,

817
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: and you're like, me, me evolved the switching up you're

818
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: going to do. But anyway, let's slap all right, let's

819
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: see krats hats and then we'll show you one story

820
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: on the way out here.

821
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: I mean, our boy Max Wontcie. Another epic, Another epic

822
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: time on the show, like he's always so good. So

823
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: I found my Dodgers had I had to wear it

824
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: for him. Dodger Blue World Series, Chap Pats.

825
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: And Chef Chef liked your Dodger had to go. He's

826
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: got Dodger hat on just for you, and he's like,

827
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 3: he's a closet Dodger fan.

828
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: I've been called worse Chef's Hollywood. I mean, he's given

829
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: Bieber advice that was freaking epic right there.

830
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: Did you ask him about that?

831
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, that's why I asked him. Dude, I asked

832
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: him so I couldn't. I forgot so I said, hey, well,

833
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: I said World Series was lit, but like little underrated story.

834
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: Was you sitting next to Biber for one of the

835
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: games and he told him he taught him. He was

836
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: talking to him about, you know, redemption and how to

837
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: you know, be the best dad he could be, all

838
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff.

839
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 5: It was really good.

840
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: It was really cool. Well, trust me, that clip will

841
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 1: get some play.

842
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 5: That clip.

843
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: We'll see that clip on Twitter soon.

844
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 4: By the way, when we were talking about the Mets

845
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 4: on on certain that's Mets Instagram Twitter, they're talking about

846
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 4: Juan Soto.

847
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: He looks jack, dude, the season ended a month ago. Bro,

848
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 3: two months ago. You can't get jacked into much crowds.

849
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 3: Tell them you can't just like change your body in

850
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: two months now. Please explain this to people.

851
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: Not at this time, not in this era of baseball,

852
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: you cannot. There is no detops warrior diet, nothing like that.

853
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: So relax with that.

854
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: Sitting in Jim hard. But yes, times have changed a

855
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: little bit in that regard. Yeah, if you do some

856
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: some things that were done more frequently in the nineties

857
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: and early two thousands, so you can get dracked pretty quickly.

858
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: I saw it in my high school. But anyway, all right,

859
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: let's say bye, we've got I remember i'd work out

860
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: with the football players. I'm like, how are they doing this?

861
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: And then like way after this was my freshman year,

862
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: someone whispering me. He was like, that guy's on steroids.

863
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 3: I was like, hey, kid, work Scott Scott, Who's on tomorrow?

864
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: Matt Boyd?

865
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: Who else?

866
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 5: Am I missing someone?

867
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: Why do you know someone coming on tomorrow.

868
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna see you tomorrow if I can get a

869
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 4: certain multiple time saw a Young Award winner to join us.

870
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: Oh this is our his initials M S.

871
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: M and he has different colored eyes.

872
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I like that little teaser.

873
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 4: Everyone then so, I mean today today was chef and

874
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 4: brad hand.

875
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: Tomorrow could be everyone somewhere else. Get him, do it,