WEBVTT - Reckless Replay: He's Your Man?!?!

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Can't Flee Reckless, the production of iHeart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and The Black Effect, And just like that, we're back

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<v Speaker 1>with yet another podcast episode with your girl just hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Carefully Reckless, where I Fix your mess.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to give a special shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>the Breakfast Club and be Et and Charlemagne and the

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<v Speaker 1>Black Effect in our heart, all four of those entities.

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<v Speaker 1>They are the reason, well not the whole reason, but

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<v Speaker 1>a good part of the reason why I do keep

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<v Speaker 1>coming back to do this shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Every Wednesday, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to let y'all know I love y'all, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just I really really feel good, really really feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my first day at Breakfast Club, my first day

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<v Speaker 1>of the weekendt Breakfast Club. So my episode drops on

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<v Speaker 1>a Wednesday, but this is a Monday, all right, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to let y'all know the.

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<v Speaker 2>Type of work day that I'm dealing with.

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<v Speaker 1>I flew from Charlotte, North Carolina after a show last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Right show was at six pm.

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<v Speaker 1>We got off stage, finished the show, everything was wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>up a round like eight thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Had to catch a nine fifty eight flight.

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<v Speaker 1>I made the flight, got here, landed here in New

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<v Speaker 1>York around like right before twelve o'clock. We bought it

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<v Speaker 1>at nine fifty eight, so we took off around like

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<v Speaker 1>ten something, landed twelve, didn't get to my hotel till

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<v Speaker 1>one got right back up at four o'clock. That my

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<v Speaker 1>makeup was here at the station at five point thirty

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<v Speaker 1>to go on at six am.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tired as hell.

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<v Speaker 1>And then from six to ten we do breakfast club,

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<v Speaker 1>we do whatever interviews that we have, and then now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in here recording, So I am literally running off

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<v Speaker 1>of three hours of sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love y'all so much. I love what I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tired, but I still got energy. You understand what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So the motivation can also be adrenaline, Like, yeah, I'm tired, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I may not even sound like it, and shit,

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<v Speaker 1>I really am. I'm not sleepy, I'm not drained. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just tired, that's all. So kay to say that you're tired,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not tired of y'all. I'm not tired of what

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I'm actually very damn grateful and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep on going and doing what I do. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>letting y'all know I do this shit for y'all. You

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<v Speaker 1>found me, So we're gonna jump right in. Nobody sent

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<v Speaker 1>in voice notes for this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just gonna read this long ass run on sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it is. I'm gonna call it out. It

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<v Speaker 1>is what it is, girl, Hi, Jess, I really need

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<v Speaker 1>you to help with my mess. I wish to remain

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<v Speaker 1>anonymous because I could catch a case about this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn oh shit.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess I'll start off with the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a twenty two year old female who's had really

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<v Speaker 1>bad taste in men, and I find myself to be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a hopeless romantic. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>are you, twenty two shit, I'm always falling in love

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<v Speaker 1>with the idea of a man.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>In February, I started a job working in the kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>at the jail. Before starting this job, my mother and

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<v Speaker 1>family all said do not fall for anyone in there,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning in the jail. I even had training informing me

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<v Speaker 1>that personal relationship with an inmate could result in a

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<v Speaker 1>rape charge for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, whether it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Consensual or not, y'all listen to that, don't y'all become

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<v Speaker 1>CEOs and cafeteria ladies and these damn jails, and then

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<v Speaker 1>y'all get caught fucking these inmates. That's a charge on y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it was consensual or not. Y'all can go down

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<v Speaker 1>for raping these motherfuckers. Okay, even if y'all didn't rape

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<v Speaker 1>these motherfuckers. All right, back to the story. So I

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<v Speaker 1>start working, things are going fine. I immediately knew I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to have to deal with some thirsties. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you must be a nice, little cute little girl,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Nice wholesome young lady, But

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<v Speaker 1>nothing can truly prepare you for working with men who

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had pussy in years. I had men saying they

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<v Speaker 1>drink my bath water, sniffing me when they walk past.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a lot, I must admit. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>one that was different. They called him Bori for anyone

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<v Speaker 1>that isn't Latino, that's short for the Boriqua. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I said that right. I got my little Spanish down

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<v Speaker 1>pick Boriqua. And at first I wasn't even looking at

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<v Speaker 1>him that way at all. It just started with small

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<v Speaker 1>conversation asking where I'm from. Talking about family, him helping

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<v Speaker 1>me carry heavy things so I wouldn't have to struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>The next thing, I know, every day we're talking more

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<v Speaker 1>and more about life and God. Okay, I noticed the

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<v Speaker 1>disrespect from the other men eventually stopped as well. He

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<v Speaker 1>would tell me how beautiful I was and how he

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to take care of me and do everything

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Eventually my wall broke down and I started

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<v Speaker 1>to develop feelings for the man who I was spending

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<v Speaker 1>so much time around. So we started getting frisky. Hold

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<v Speaker 1>on and the damn jail girl, So we started getting risky,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, not frisky. I slipped him my number, He

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<v Speaker 1>would slip me letters and pictures. We would sneak off

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<v Speaker 1>into the freezer together. No, we didn't have sex. We

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<v Speaker 1>started talking about a life together. When he got out,

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<v Speaker 1>I was even looking for apartners and shit. And before

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<v Speaker 1>you judge me, I'm going through a lot in life

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Sometimes the unhealed part of me looks for

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<v Speaker 1>something that can save me, or someone to come save me.

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<v Speaker 1>After a while, words spread that we were messing around.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, girl, you know it's like the hood. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the damn jail, old shit, the walls talk and the

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<v Speaker 1>inmates do too, and sure enough, this information gets back

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<v Speaker 1>to my manager. I'm not gonna say her name, but

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this. She is one of the realist

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<v Speaker 1>shorties I ever met. She sits me down and tells

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<v Speaker 1>me she knows about me and body, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>just say buddy, me and Boddy that she really likes me.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why she was telling me. She thought it

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<v Speaker 1>would be best if I quit. Damn that if the

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<v Speaker 1>information got back to her, then word was spread beyond

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<v Speaker 1>her into the CEOs and then they'd launch an investigation

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd get arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>So she was saving me.

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<v Speaker 1>To avoid all of the mess, I just needed to quit,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's exactly what I did. I came in one

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<v Speaker 1>last day to tell Boddy to make sure he saves

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<v Speaker 1>my number in a safe space, and I didn't go back.

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<v Speaker 1>This was in the end of March, so having quit,

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<v Speaker 1>I figured there was nothing more for me to lose.

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<v Speaker 1>To look for him, So that's what I did. I

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<v Speaker 1>looked for him on Facebook and found a couple of pages.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked through his friendless to see if I can

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<v Speaker 1>find someone to pass a message to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, he didn't call you. Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>I find this friend that he seemed to be very

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<v Speaker 1>close with. I messaged the friend to see if they

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<v Speaker 1>still keep in contact, and this man proceeds to tell

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<v Speaker 1>me that him and buddy are together.

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<v Speaker 2>What that was his man? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>He asked me who I was and what I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>with his boyfriend. Then I looked through his pictures and

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<v Speaker 1>find a picture with them too hugged up.

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<v Speaker 2>With engagement rings. Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>Needless to say, my heart was broke. I immediately got

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<v Speaker 1>sick to my stomach. I didn't know how to process

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<v Speaker 1>that information at all. So I just blocked the friend

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<v Speaker 1>and the situation from my mind and just kept moving forward,

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<v Speaker 1>because now I got to figure out how to pay

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<v Speaker 1>my bills since I was stupid and fucked up a

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<v Speaker 1>state job with a pension and all that girl dumba's hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite that, though, I still think of him all the

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<v Speaker 1>time time and the way he made me feel, how

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<v Speaker 1>soft and gentle he was with me. Maybe that was

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<v Speaker 1>from him being gay, I don't fucking know, or just

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<v Speaker 1>him knowing how to treat another human being.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl. That don't have nothing to do with him being gay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know?

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<v Speaker 1>But now he still calls me, uh, and I answer

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<v Speaker 1>from time to time because I want to hear his voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh today I told him I knew about him and

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<v Speaker 1>his boyfriend. Of course he couldn't explain much do to

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<v Speaker 1>where he is. But he claims that's his old life

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<v Speaker 1>and he wants a new one, and how he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to lose me, how he'll answer whatever questions I have.

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<v Speaker 1>Just give him a chance when he gets out. Oh hell, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you want me to wait for you to get out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know when the hell that is You want

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<v Speaker 1>me to wait for you to get out to tell

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<v Speaker 1>me that you ain't gay? No more, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>answer all my questions about you being gay, some about

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<v Speaker 1>this is your old life. Well, that Nigga didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>that when I hit him up to ask him about you.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all are fucking engaged. And what you did was you

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<v Speaker 1>got your ass locked up, and that Nigga's waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>you to come to fuck home.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>A part of me wants that so bad, just to

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<v Speaker 1>say fuck it and love him openly for who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's that other part of me that thinks, what

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<v Speaker 1>if he gets tired and wants to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>dick exactly I'm not sure why I haven't completely checked

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<v Speaker 1>out after finding out he was gay. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>know how you would fix this mess. Am my delusional

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<v Speaker 1>to want love so bad that I tried to love

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<v Speaker 1>a gay man.

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<v Speaker 2>Get back to me if you can. This shit got

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<v Speaker 2>me fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold up, Hold up, I know this shit getting good.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen to just a couple seconds of a commercial.

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<v Speaker 1>If you love me, you'll listen, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, bookie. But I do understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand how you can be fucked up by a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>because that was just a whole lot. All right, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go back to the beginning. Listen, You're twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>years old. You're twenty two. You had a great job,

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<v Speaker 1>you did, I mean, I don't you know considerably speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you worked in a fucking jail, but you

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<v Speaker 1>did have a pension. You mentioned, you mentioned that you

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<v Speaker 1>loved the state job. I mean, obviously you didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>anything bad to say about it other than you had

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<v Speaker 1>to leave it due to a nigga. I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say a nigga. Ain't gonna say a gay nigga because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't even know if he's gay. He may be,

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<v Speaker 1>by he obviously is not gay. You know, he's obviously bisexual,

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<v Speaker 1>or he could be poly. I mean, we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>when we get into all the sexual departments, but we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know, all right. I'm also not gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>what he made you feel has no regard. It's fake,

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<v Speaker 1>it's bullshit, it's asinine to feel that way. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to say that because that's not true. I do

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<v Speaker 1>believe that he developed feelings for you. I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>he was and probably still is connected to that ex man,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, his ex fiance or could still be his

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<v Speaker 1>current fiance, and he still may be even battling with

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<v Speaker 1>his sexuality.

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<v Speaker 2>He may not know who the fuck he is. You

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<v Speaker 2>understand what I'm saying. He may not. That's why I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to call him gay.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't just say, oh, you're gay because you found

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<v Speaker 1>out that he fucked with men. You know that he

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<v Speaker 1>had a man that he was engaged to. He could

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<v Speaker 1>still be very well bisexual. You know, we just don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't want to put that on him altogether.

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<v Speaker 1>I also don't think you're crazy for feeling the way

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<v Speaker 1>you do. We can't control our feelings. We can't control

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<v Speaker 1>who we love. If you love this man, I do

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<v Speaker 1>understand that. I do think that you are young. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to say you don't know what love is,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have a whole lot more life to live

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot more to experience before you lock.

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<v Speaker 2>Down with a guy who is in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know when he's coming home, and he just

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<v Speaker 1>expressed to you that he may be gay.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But he wants you to wait until he gets out

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<v Speaker 1>for a full explanation. That's bullshit. That's the only part

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<v Speaker 1>about it that is bullshit. And the craziest part about

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<v Speaker 1>it is that you actually had to quit your job.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't quit because you wanted to. You quit because

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<v Speaker 1>you had to, and you avoid it and arrest. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I think your manager is a real one for coming,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, coming to you before shit actually hit the

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<v Speaker 1>fucking fan and telling you to get out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>That was meaningful.

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<v Speaker 1>That was somebody who understands and probably somebody who saw

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<v Speaker 1>a situation like that before. You know, a young girl

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<v Speaker 1>caught in a situation like that. I'm not gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>that all men in jail are the same. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to say that, but I am gonna say, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very easy to believe a dream that a man in

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<v Speaker 1>jail will sell you. You understand what I'm saying, not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that this is your situation now, I'm talking in general.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very easy to believe that because all they have

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<v Speaker 1>to live by is dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of them don't even know when they're coming home.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them ain't even coming home, so all they

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<v Speaker 1>have to do is hold on to dreams and memories

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<v Speaker 1>and shit, you know, And sometimes their dreams become nightmares

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<v Speaker 1>and shit because they don't know when they're coming home.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to live in a fucking cage and look

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<v Speaker 1>at four walls for the rest of their fucking lives

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<v Speaker 1>or for a very long period of time, and be

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<v Speaker 1>away from their friends and families. And like you said, pussy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. It's hard that you had

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with the mental abuse, you know, the verbal

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<v Speaker 1>abuse from all the other inmates hitting on you, telling

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<v Speaker 1>you they drink your bad for it. I know it

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<v Speaker 1>had to make you feel uncomfortable. And then you said

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<v Speaker 1>you meant buddy, buddy kua and you all was sneaking

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<v Speaker 1>to the free so much yry hand sex what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck y'all doing in the freezer. Then not y'all freezing,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all damn asses off and they're just talking and trembling.

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck y'all doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Shit, ain't no way you could ass sexy they I

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<v Speaker 1>know this dick can't get hard in the cold a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking freezer next to the chicken. Chiall listen, all jokes aside.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like I said, you're very young. Okay, make

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<v Speaker 1>this a lesson. Learn you said he calls you, you

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<v Speaker 1>still answer because you just want to hear his voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't run from it. I'm not saying run from it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just keep all your options open, honey. I can't tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you. I can't tell you to be

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<v Speaker 1>with a gay man. I can't tell you to not

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<v Speaker 1>be with a bisexual man. I can't tell you to

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<v Speaker 1>not fuck with him. And listen, it's all about your preference.

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<v Speaker 1>You're still young, you don't know who the fuck you are. Probably,

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<v Speaker 1>so even if you're considering dealing with the bisexual man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not me judging you. That's your fucking preference. If

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you prefer, you need to figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do. You know he said, that's his

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<v Speaker 1>old life. Do you believe him? Can you ungay have

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<v Speaker 1>to being gay for so long? That's a real fucking question.

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<v Speaker 2>Women do it? Why can't men do it?

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<v Speaker 1>And then the flip side is once your buttole been entered,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you like go back to being a version.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the butt? You know what I mean? And are

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<v Speaker 2>you gay fever once you get your butt plugged up?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so many there's so many questions, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. We did have Andrew Calwell bring him

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<v Speaker 1>up every now and then. He said that he's not

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<v Speaker 1>gay anymore. He very well may not be, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. We don't know what that guy does.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he still has you know, is this feminine

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<v Speaker 1>ways or whatever. But that could still just be the

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<v Speaker 1>last little bit, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he probably got to get the last little

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<v Speaker 1>bit out by twenty twenty five. He could sound like me,

0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:47.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, he could sound like you know, James Earl Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know, you know what I mean, You probably don't.

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<v Speaker 2>He probably don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's getting the last little bit of gay out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So we just don't know. And while it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like I'm playing, I'm being dead ass serious.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So I.

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<v Speaker 1>Want you to, you know, reach out to body or

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<v Speaker 1>well you can't reach out at the jail, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't reach out to no more his friends, because

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<v Speaker 1>then I feel like you're gonna find out some more shit.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. I think you need to let him know.

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<v Speaker 1>Write him a nice little letter, let him know that

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<v Speaker 1>you're conflicted on this, you know, be as open as

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<v Speaker 1>you can, and tell him that you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>wait until he gets home for him to explain everything.

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<v Speaker 1>You met him in there, and he still he owed

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<v Speaker 1>you an explanation. Nigga, I lost my mother fucking job

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<v Speaker 1>because I picked you, over risking my freedom I did.

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<v Speaker 1>In hindsight, I ultimately picked you. He knows you're young.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you didn't lie about your fucking age. He

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<v Speaker 1>knows you're young. I'm not saying that he's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of you, but you are very impressionable.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. It took him a minute to knock down that wall,

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<v Speaker 2>but he did. A nigga in jail knocked down the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you can have anybody on the outside your age,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years old or whatever, without a record,

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<v Speaker 1>without a boyfriend or you know, a fiance and without

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<v Speaker 1>a past like that, and you chose Buddy again.

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<v Speaker 2>It may sound like I'm judging you. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes you gotta hear shit repeated back to you

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<v Speaker 1>so you can hear how unorthodox it sounds. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying the situation is crazy. I'm not saying it's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying any of that. I don't want you

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<v Speaker 1>to get the wrong idea. I said unorthodox. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot going on, a lot going on. You're too young

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<v Speaker 1>for that. You should be working on your next fucking job,

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<v Speaker 1>not working on buddy. And when the fuck he come home?

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<v Speaker 1>What the fuck is he gonna give you? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>backing up his promises with concrete details? Does he have

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking plan? What is he doing in there now?

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<v Speaker 1>And did you work in a jail or did you

0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:45.280
<v Speaker 1>work in a prison that's different? Is he taking classes

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<v Speaker 1>to better himself? Like? What the fuck is he doing?

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<v Speaker 1>What are his dreams? Did y'all get to know each

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<v Speaker 1>other in the damn did he tell you that in

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<v Speaker 1>that freezer? What did he tell you he was cold,

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<v Speaker 1>freezing your ass off. He supposed to be on the

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<v Speaker 1>damn floor.

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<v Speaker 2>With the rest of the inmates and you playing in

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<v Speaker 2>the freezer with buddy. Girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you need to go try to get your

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<v Speaker 1>damn job back, or go to another damn jail and

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<v Speaker 1>don't fall in love with no more fucking inmates.

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<v Speaker 2>Girl. I mean that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they're not all the same, but that ain't where

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get your man from.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good men and that two.

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<v Speaker 1>But let them come home, figure themselves out and find

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<v Speaker 1>their woman, or let them come home to people that's already.

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<v Speaker 2>Waiting for them. I mean that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that, even in your case, let them come

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<v Speaker 1>home to who's waiting for them obviously, Okay, because dreams

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<v Speaker 1>are still sold in jail. Okay, Okay, check back in

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<v Speaker 1>with me because I want to know where you go

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<v Speaker 1>from here. I would love for you to go get

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<v Speaker 1>another job. You seem like you had your head on

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<v Speaker 1>damn straight, but you know, we don't know, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you need to get it together.

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<v Speaker 1>If you love me, you'll listen to this commercial and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll be right back moving on. Hey, jas, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a boyfriend that I've been with for four years,

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<v Speaker 1>but we both want different things. I want us to

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<v Speaker 1>have our own place, but he wants to keep living

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<v Speaker 1>with his dad. He's twenty one and I'm twenty. Damn girl, shit,

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<v Speaker 1>girly pribably ain't ready for all of that. Now, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell are you talking about? First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>your little hot ass, calm down. You ain't even twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one yet. He's twenty one and you're twenty. Understand you

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<v Speaker 1>want to move. Okay, you want to move with your boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all been together for four years. Yeah, so, y'all were

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<v Speaker 1>together since sixteen seventeen. I understand, But you really truly

0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.320
<v Speaker 1>don't know a person until you live with them. And now, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to I'm not trying to control your life.

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<v Speaker 1>But you got one more year until you make all

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<v Speaker 1>these big decisions, and you got to live with them.

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<v Speaker 1>You understand what I'm saying. I think he's making a

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<v Speaker 1>sensible decision. You act like he thirty one, forty one

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<v Speaker 1>living with his dad. I know some people living with

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<v Speaker 1>their parents that are older than I am, which I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still not saying anything is wrong with I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>it depends on your level of independence. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be independent. It's some people parents don't want them

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<v Speaker 1>to leave. Some people don't want to leave their parents.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you have relationships and jobs and kids and

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<v Speaker 1>all that type of shit, you want your own. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you just are tired of living under someone else's roof,

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<v Speaker 1>you want your own. But then you have people that

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<v Speaker 1>stay at home as long as they can. Because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you something, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard to shit out here these days.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the day when I first moved out, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>it was hard, but it wasn't nowhere near as hard

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<v Speaker 1>as it is now.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in a recession right now. And while it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Affect a lot of people, and why it doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>like why it doesn't look like it affects a lot

0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:47.040
<v Speaker 1>of people. Oh it does. It's affecting a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fucking people. I went to this is a side truck

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<v Speaker 1>real quick. I want the chick for later other day, right,

0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I order fool for me, my sister and my videographer.

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<v Speaker 1>That shit came up to like thirty eight dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't even get four meals.

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<v Speaker 2>I was the only one that got a four meal.

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<v Speaker 1>My sister got some nuggets meg and cheese, and he

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<v Speaker 1>got a salad and a milkshake or some shit. Thirty

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<v Speaker 1>eight dollars forty dollars for three people to eat and

0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:17.920
<v Speaker 1>they weren't even full complete meals. It's a fucking struggle

0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:21.159
<v Speaker 1>out here. That shit may sound like pennies to certain people.

0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.600
<v Speaker 1>To other people, you ain't got it. It's hard feeding

0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.239
<v Speaker 1>your fucking family. That's why so much crime, That's why

0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:31.080
<v Speaker 1>niggas is hungry, robbing, stealing, fucking killing people and shit

0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:32.840
<v Speaker 1>people are trying.

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<v Speaker 2>To make ways out of no way. You understand what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we have yollow ass that want to move

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<v Speaker 1>out quick fast, in a hurry. Girl, you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>right back. And I don't even like it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like saying this. I don't like seeming like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking down. But don't jump out there too fucking fast, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>don't at least wait until you're twenty one, and then

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<v Speaker 1>let him take his time. If y'all been together for

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<v Speaker 1>four years already, where are you going? Do you see

0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:04.000
<v Speaker 1>y'all going downhill? Is this a deal breaker for you?

0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:07.760
<v Speaker 1>If y'all don't move together, you're gonna leave him? What

0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:12.359
<v Speaker 1>is this, it's all right. Compromise and a relationship compromise.

0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Give him like a wager, you know, leverage. Let's meet

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle. Compromise. Say all right, Ben, you know

0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.840
<v Speaker 1>how bad I want to move together. Since we can't

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<v Speaker 1>do that right now, let's revisit this in another year,

0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.280
<v Speaker 1>six months to a year, and let's see where you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be by then. Or let's wait until my twenty first

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<v Speaker 1>birthday and let's see where you'll be by then, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll revisit it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't just up and leave call it quits just because

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<v Speaker 1>he's not trying to move together right now. He also

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<v Speaker 1>could be scared. He could be nervous. His parents could

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<v Speaker 1>be in his head. You ain't about to move with

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<v Speaker 1>that girl, you know what I'm saying. You don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think it's a communication thing. Sit down and

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<v Speaker 1>talk to him, But also compromise if you see it's

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<v Speaker 1>really a problem. Don't ever pressure a man to do shit,

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<v Speaker 1>just like I don't think we should be pre sure

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<v Speaker 1>to do anything. Never put pressure on a man, because

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<v Speaker 1>when they feel pressure, they do shit like lie. They

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<v Speaker 1>start telling you what you want to hear, and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't even mean it just to get from up under

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<v Speaker 1>that pressure, you know what I'm saying, Like they start

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<v Speaker 1>to lie, they start to run, they start the cheap,

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<v Speaker 1>they start to don't pressure him. Be upfront always. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a tip that you could take for me. I'm thirty one.

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<v Speaker 1>I still ain't got it all figured out relationship wise,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think I'm doing pretty damn good because I've

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<v Speaker 1>had some bad examples to show me what not to

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<v Speaker 1>do and what to watch out for. Well, actually, I

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<v Speaker 1>should call them good examples because I know the nigga

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<v Speaker 1>right now was thinking them niggas a All right, well, listen,

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