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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norri

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Speaker 1: with you. First of all, Rick McCallum with us. Began

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Speaker 1: his stunt career in nineteen eighty two performing a fight

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Speaker 1: scene with Chuck Norris. Rick has more than seventy five

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Speaker 1: co founders of the Hollywood Ghost Hunters, he's been on

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Speaker 1: our program before. Rick, welcome back. Well, thank you, George's eyes.

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Speaker 1: Great to be on your show. I'm looking forward to this.

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Speaker 1: I remember the time we were at the Haunted Queen Mary.

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Speaker 1: Remember that one? Oh do I ever? Actually that's where

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Speaker 1: I got to meet Stanton Friedman for the first time.

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Speaker 1: I missed that guy. He passed away a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago on us. Wonderful man, who sure was. And

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Speaker 1: then let me introduce Lady Anne Selene, the host of

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Speaker 1: the podcast The Caravan and the owner of the digital

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Speaker 1: paranormal broadcasting station called kpn L. She has experienced shadow

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Speaker 1: entities and has encountered sasquatch. We'll talk about that. Hello,

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Speaker 1: Lady Anne, Welcome hi. It's so wonderful to be here.

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Speaker 1: We're going to have some fun. I'm looking forward to this. Brick.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about the connection between you and Lady Anne. Well, actually,

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Speaker 1: I've just recently met Lady Anne and we've been talking

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Speaker 1: on the phone and she's been asking me some questions.

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Speaker 1: She's very much into the paranormal and I've been reading

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Speaker 1: her book, which is extraordinary. But she's been asking me

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Speaker 1: questions about equipment and things like that. So we've been

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Speaker 1: actually chatting quite a bit in the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: And Lady Anne that book is called Ghosts Believe in

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Speaker 1: Me or Aperture in the Veil off which one mine

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Speaker 1: is Aperture in the Veil Born in a Preternatural World, Perfect. Perfect.

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Speaker 1: Now tell me about your digital radio station. Yeah, So,

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Speaker 1: KPNO Radio has been on air since January of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty and it basically has paranormal radio that starts at

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Speaker 1: five pm Monday through Friday. We have special programming on

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Speaker 1: Saturdays and Sundays. Sundays we have like you know, the

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Speaker 1: old times Spooky Radio and with Vincent Price and different

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Speaker 1: ones like that. At and then we also have music

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Speaker 1: that we play during the day that has that paranormal feel.

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Speaker 1: To it. So songs about witches and demons and ghosts.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you play the Adams Family theme song once in

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Speaker 1: a while. No, how did you get interest in all this? Oh?

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Speaker 1: My gosh. Well, I normally say that I was born

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Speaker 1: with the paranormal since my very earliest memories. So it's

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Speaker 1: you know, and it still follows me. I have experiences

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Speaker 1: even you know. Last week. So what happened last week? Well,

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Speaker 1: my sister and I it was really interesting. She came

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Speaker 1: like mine, and I had pointed it out to my sister.

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Speaker 1: She made eye contact with the driver. And this particular

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Speaker 1: It is not pulled over anywhere. It is not It's

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Speaker 1: heard strange stories. We've gotten calls to Lady Anne from

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Speaker 1: strange times. That's amazing. McCallum. Of course we've asked you

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Speaker 1: Hollywood ghost Hunters? Well, actually the Hollywood ghost Hunters we

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Speaker 1: got started at Mansfield Prison when Kane and I and

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Speaker 1: ra Mahilf were working on a movie called Fallen Angels

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Speaker 1: and we decided, Kane and I did that we would

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Speaker 1: Is Scotland got some haunted places? Oh? All of Scotland

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Speaker 1: a padded him on the head. He was so close.

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Speaker 1: It's fascinating, lady, And tell us about your cryptid experience

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Speaker 1: with sasquatch. Oh, my goodness. So with cryptids, it was

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Speaker 1: And we had actually started out. I went to Ohio

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