WEBVTT - Man Who Set Neighbor On Fire, Set To Be Executed Tonight 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, it is Tuesday, April twenty first, and a

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<v Speaker 1>Florida man is on standby today hoping to hear from

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<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court because at this point they are the

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<v Speaker 1>only ones who can save his life.

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<v Speaker 2>And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Rohobes.

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<v Speaker 2>Another execution on the books in this country, no surprise,

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<v Speaker 2>this one's scheduled tonight in where else but the state

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<v Speaker 2>of Florida.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 4>This will be Florida's fifth execution this evening, and they

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<v Speaker 4>are on pace for a potentially a second record year

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<v Speaker 4>of executions. Last year that state executed nineteen inmates. This

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<v Speaker 4>will be their fifth. There's already another one scheduled for

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<v Speaker 4>the end of this month.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing with them about Florida, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is DeSantis. These are the only ones they have scheduled

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<v Speaker 2>for the year, like this one and then the next one,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that would be six for the year, and

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<v Speaker 2>that would be done. But that's not how DeSantis rolls.

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<v Speaker 4>And it would have seven, by the way, but James

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<v Speaker 4>Duckett's execution was stayed. We're still waiting to see what

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<v Speaker 4>happens with him with that DNA that was supposed.

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<v Speaker 3>To be reanalyzed.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you think about it, if they had already

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<v Speaker 4>had seven by April, they could be if they stayed

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<v Speaker 4>on this same pace, they could be up to twenty

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<v Speaker 4>one by the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know yet.

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<v Speaker 2>To your point, it's where they DeSantis will sign them

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<v Speaker 2>as they put him in front of him. And just

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<v Speaker 2>like last year where they had their record number of nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't start the year with we got nineteen scheduled.

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<v Speaker 2>They just keep popping up. So, yes, we're up to

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<v Speaker 2>this number for them. It could end up it staying

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<v Speaker 2>at this number. We don't expect that, but Rogues, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how many of these things he's going to sign.

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<v Speaker 3>We just know that he's willing to sign almost all

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<v Speaker 3>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Any one you put in front of him will put

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<v Speaker 2>his signature on.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>Tonight, it is fifty eight year old Chadwick Scott Willisey

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<v Speaker 4>who is facing lethal injection. It is set to happen

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<v Speaker 4>at six pm Eastern time tonight for a crime he

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<v Speaker 4>committed nearly thirty six years ago. And that has often

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<v Speaker 4>been the case in these crimes we're seeing now being

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<v Speaker 4>finally adjudicated. Three decades, even four decades later, Florida has

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<v Speaker 4>been piling up murderers who have been sitting on death

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<v Speaker 4>row now for decades.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in most states don't have the most ords. Half

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<v Speaker 2>and half have the death penalty. Some states have a

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<v Speaker 2>moratorium on it. There are some states that go full there,

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<v Speaker 2>going full steam ahead. And to Santos has taken another

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<v Speaker 2>stance with Rogue, which Robes is, even if you against

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<v Speaker 2>the death penalty, you are for punishment being doled out

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<v Speaker 2>for us seeing through for families getting justice. This was

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<v Speaker 2>the justice they sought, This was the justice they were

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<v Speaker 2>told they could get. Why the hell they got away

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six years for it. That's one argument on the

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<v Speaker 2>Santo's side that I could I can see what he's

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do. Robes. I was in junior high school

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<v Speaker 2>when this woman was killed by this man. I have

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<v Speaker 2>lived an entire lifetime and this family has been waiting

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<v Speaker 2>that entire lifetime for this justice. Broh. There's something about

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<v Speaker 2>that system that is wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, and the son of the woman who was

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<v Speaker 4>murdered will get into this brutal crime because it was brutal.

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<v Speaker 4>But Marlus Maysather's son John has been waiting all this time.

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<v Speaker 4>He plans to be at the execution, and he has

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<v Speaker 4>certainly spoken out and spoken loudly about him wanting to

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<v Speaker 4>see his mother's murderer die. And so, yes, we know

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<v Speaker 4>that Chadwick Willisey's Supreme Court Florida Supreme Court efforts his

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<v Speaker 4>appeal was denied last Wednesday. We are still a waiting

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<v Speaker 4>for official word from the Supreme Court. But willisy has

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<v Speaker 4>denied killing. He is denied being guilty of this murder,

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<v Speaker 4>and he has made claims based on the state's refusal

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<v Speaker 4>to grant public records requests about executions and specifically lethal injections.

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<v Speaker 4>That's his argument to the Supreme Court as to why

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<v Speaker 4>he shouldn't be executed. It has fallen short in the

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<v Speaker 4>Florida State Supreme Court and likely will in the Supreme

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<v Speaker 4>Court as well.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not arguing about his innocence. No, he can say

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<v Speaker 2>it all day long, out loud, but he is not

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<v Speaker 2>in court presenting any evidence about his innocence. And also,

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<v Speaker 2>roads we should mention, as we do in covering so

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<v Speaker 2>many of these executions, there are some that have a

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<v Speaker 2>ground swell of support screaming about re examining evidence. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's a chance that you were executing an innocent man.

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<v Speaker 2>This ain't that.

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<v Speaker 4>No, And let's get into the crime itself, because this

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<v Speaker 4>will probably solidify how you feel about this man. So

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<v Speaker 4>this happened on September fifth, nineteen ninety TJ was in

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<v Speaker 4>junior high school.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in high school.

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<v Speaker 4>And yes, we have fifty six year old marlus May Sather.

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<v Speaker 4>She came home from work, actually early on her lunch break.

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<v Speaker 4>Her husband had just died six weeks earlier of liver cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>She was trying to sell his car, and she planned

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<v Speaker 3>to meet somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>So she walked in on then twenty four year old

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<v Speaker 4>Chadwick Willisey robbing her home. This is a guy who

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<v Speaker 4>used to mow her lawn, so she knew him. I

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<v Speaker 4>can't imagine that moment she walks into the home and

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<v Speaker 4>she sees him robbing her.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, look, she recognized. She knew who he was. Now

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, why he made the decisions he made,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know. But he was, for whatever reason, set

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<v Speaker 2>on making sure that she was not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to report him for this crime.

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<v Speaker 4>That is absolutely what people believe. He did not want

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<v Speaker 4>to leave someone behind. But however, he wanted to make

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<v Speaker 4>sure he got everything he could out of her, because,

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<v Speaker 4>according to court records, he bludgeoned her, He tied her up,

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<v Speaker 4>he strangled her with a telephone cord, and eventually she

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<v Speaker 4>gave him her ATM PIN number. He took her car,

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<v Speaker 4>he drove to her bank withdrew money for her account,

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<v Speaker 4>and then he returned to her home disabled. The smoke

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<v Speaker 4>detectors doused her in gasoline, put a fan at her feet,

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<v Speaker 4>and then set her on fire. I cannot think of

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<v Speaker 4>anything more cruel than that. And it's just a beyond

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<v Speaker 4>disturbing scene that was discovered by her son in law.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so again we're not that this isn't that debate

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<v Speaker 2>about guilt or innocence, and nobody's presenting to evidence. But

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<v Speaker 2>the argument there and I don't understand why so many

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<v Speaker 2>of these and they should get scrutiny robes these cases

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<v Speaker 2>when you're talking about life or death, they should. But

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<v Speaker 2>he's been on death row for thirty six years, and

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<v Speaker 2>at some point doing the math there about a decade

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<v Speaker 2>after he was convicted and got the death penalty, of

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<v Speaker 2>jury came back and it was the death penalty was

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<v Speaker 2>taken off the table. Then another jury came back and

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<v Speaker 2>it was put on the table. So there's been plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of legal back and forth. And in that I think

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<v Speaker 2>about that family. That family has had to show up

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<v Speaker 2>to all these court dates and all these proceedings to

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<v Speaker 2>see what's going to happen to this guy that they

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<v Speaker 2>were told was going to be executive or something he

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<v Speaker 2>did to their family member. Why are they still waiting?

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<v Speaker 2>They've gone through this back and forth, so they are waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>This was the This is just the back and forth

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<v Speaker 2>is just a lot, and the crime was just as

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<v Speaker 2>horrific as it gets. So they're obviously the Santas is

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<v Speaker 2>not going to step in. Don't have any anticipation that

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court will. But the argument they're making robes

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<v Speaker 2>in the court is not one that any court has

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<v Speaker 2>bought so far. So far, and look, there are some

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<v Speaker 2>arguments we hear and we go hmm. This is one

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<v Speaker 2>that really seems like throwing something against the wall and

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<v Speaker 2>hoping something sticks. But they're out of options now. He's

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<v Speaker 2>just trying to say, hey, we open up the process.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to know more about the lethal injection process.

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<v Speaker 2>And because you don't tell us more about the whole process,

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<v Speaker 2>then you might be violating his rights. Huh, is the argument,

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<v Speaker 2>and some judges have said.

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<v Speaker 4>Huh exactly, and so they And obviously that's the way

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<v Speaker 4>our system is set up, where a death row inmate

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<v Speaker 4>gets to exhaust all options before his.

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<v Speaker 3>Irrevocable sentence is imposed.

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<v Speaker 4>But when you think about you mentioned the family having

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<v Speaker 4>to sit through these trials, and when you look at

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<v Speaker 4>the evidence at trial, despite the fact that he has

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<v Speaker 4>maintained his innocence, Look, the evidence was overwhelming at trial.

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<v Speaker 4>His fingerprints were on that fan that he put in

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<v Speaker 4>front of her before he lit her on fire. His

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<v Speaker 4>own girlfriend found her Sather's checkbook in his trash can,

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<v Speaker 4>clothes in his home had blood consistent with her blood

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<v Speaker 4>on it, and there were a number of items that

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<v Speaker 4>were in his home that were Sather's items. So there

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<v Speaker 4>were many smoking guns on this case, and it was

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<v Speaker 4>clear that he was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, and

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<v Speaker 4>certainly that jury found it. The only back and forth

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<v Speaker 4>was over the death penalty himself. But the son I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to say a little bit about what John Sather

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<v Speaker 4>has done, said, because we talk about this often, the

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<v Speaker 4>family that's just waiting for justice, he said, I want

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<v Speaker 4>to make sure that I see the warden say he's deceased.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to make sure mom gets justice for someone

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<v Speaker 4>coming in and stealing her life in a couple of heartbeats.

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<v Speaker 4>And that is certainly powerful. And we often, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>we've said this, we it just the family's wishes have

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<v Speaker 4>to be considered or should be considered in this case.

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<v Speaker 4>And to know that the sun is waiting for this

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<v Speaker 4>day and has been waiting for this day speaks volumes.

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<v Speaker 4>When we come back, we're going to tell you what

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<v Speaker 4>the final exchange John Sather said he had with his

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<v Speaker 4>own mother, and we'll talk about Florida's plans for more

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<v Speaker 4>executions along with the state of Texas for this month.

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<v Speaker 4>And welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ.

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<v Speaker 3>We are talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Florida's fifth execution set for six pm Eastern time tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>Fifth for the year. This is the eighth in the country.

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<v Speaker 4>Florida once again leading the way in executions already. We're

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<v Speaker 4>at April of this year and they are on track

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<v Speaker 4>for another record setting year. Fifty eight year old Chadwick

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<v Speaker 4>Scott Willisey will die by lethal injection tonight for the

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<v Speaker 4>brutal murder of Marlus May Sather. He literally set his

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<v Speaker 4>neighbor on fire while robbing her. Now he has maintained

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<v Speaker 4>his innocence, but the evidence that trial has been overwhelming,

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<v Speaker 4>and it looks like the Supreme Court will not step

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<v Speaker 4>in to stop That was his last option. Obviously, the

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<v Speaker 4>governor is always the final last option. But we know

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<v Speaker 4>that Governor DeSantis isn't typically known for doing so. No.

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<v Speaker 2>He oh, he signs a lot of papers. They're not

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<v Speaker 2>clemency papers.

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<v Speaker 3>They're death warrants.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, And we've talked a little bit about this son,

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<v Speaker 4>her son, John Sather, who has waited for justice for

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<v Speaker 4>thirty six years. He talked about the last time he

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<v Speaker 4>saw his mom ten days before her death at his

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<v Speaker 4>thirty second birthday party, and he talked about how this

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<v Speaker 4>was a subdued birthday party. His father had just passed

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<v Speaker 4>from liver cancer. And this is one of those moments

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<v Speaker 4>where you always remember the last words.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think about this just.

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<v Speaker 4>In daily exchanges with you, babe, with my kids, with

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<v Speaker 4>people who you love, just to think you don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't know what's ahead. And he said, the one

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<v Speaker 4>bit of peace he has is that the final exchange

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<v Speaker 4>was he said, I love you, mom, and she said

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<v Speaker 4>I love you too, John, And that's meaningful.

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<v Speaker 3>You remember those moments.

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<v Speaker 4>I think about that often when we cover cases like this,

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<v Speaker 4>just about how we all live our lives and we

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if evil's lurking around the corner, and certainly

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<v Speaker 4>we cover it a lot here, So it's on my

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<v Speaker 4>mind often.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh know, too often we hear these stories and people

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<v Speaker 2>will recite what they wish they'd said, or the opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>they missed at the end. It's not often that a

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<v Speaker 2>guy says, you know what I have at this moment,

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<v Speaker 2>and as horrible as that thing that happened to her was,

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<v Speaker 2>at least this gives me peace. So that is something

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<v Speaker 2>as significant. And yeah, everybody has that experience, do they not.

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<v Speaker 2>You get to a certain age rope, everybody has it.

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<v Speaker 2>You find out somebody died unexpectedly, go wow, I meant

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<v Speaker 2>to send them a message last week. I meant to respond,

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<v Speaker 2>I meant to reach out, I meant to have lunch.

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<v Speaker 2>This was nice to hear. At least we always find

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<v Speaker 2>some love, some humanity, and some decency in these stories.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I felt like that was important to add because

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<v Speaker 4>that I don't know. You read about these brutal crimes

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<v Speaker 4>and these these unimaginable events that you have to live

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<v Speaker 4>through and live beyond and live with in your heart.

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<v Speaker 4>But to know that he had that final exchange actually

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<v Speaker 4>brought me some peace reading about this. I love you, Mom,

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<v Speaker 4>I love you too, John. I'm going to call my

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<v Speaker 4>mom today for sure. But look, Florida is already said

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<v Speaker 4>to execute another inmate at the end of this month,

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<v Speaker 4>James Ernest Hitchcock, and Texas is going to execute a

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<v Speaker 4>man named James Bordenag. These are both set to happen

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<v Speaker 4>on April thirtieth. And look, as you pointed out, Babe,

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<v Speaker 4>this just they keep they keep adding new dates, new inmates.

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<v Speaker 4>And look, this country is and certainly certain states more

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<v Speaker 4>than others. But Florida has been leading the way and

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<v Speaker 4>making sure that it finds justice for families and families.

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<v Speaker 4>It is remarkable to see just how long folks have

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<v Speaker 4>had to wait to finally say I don't have to

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<v Speaker 4>think about that person anymore. I don't have to wait

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<v Speaker 4>for the next hearing, the next court date. And this

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<v Speaker 4>is at least giving, at least we know from hearing

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<v Speaker 4>directly from the victims family in this case, that this

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<v Speaker 4>is a day they have been waiting for, they have

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<v Speaker 4>been longing for, and will certainly give them closure and

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<v Speaker 4>peace tonight. So we will of course follow any developments

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<v Speaker 4>that may happen. But again, six pm tonight, Eastern time,

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<v Speaker 4>fifty year eight year old Chadwick Scott Willisey will die

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<v Speaker 4>by lethal injection in the state of Florida. We always

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<v Speaker 4>appreciate you listening to us. Everyone on behalf of my

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<v Speaker 4>of T J.

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<v Speaker 3>Holmes. I made me roebock. We'll see you soon. M hmm.