1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: In the Weeds is powered by Arena Club Best Spot 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: to Go, Grab a card, sell a card, the whole deal. 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: Let's look back at twenty twenty four, so it's just 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: one year ago. An article from The Athletic called what 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: we got wrong? Looking back at our MLB trade grades 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: from the twenty twenty four deadline. 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: Cam. 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: We love to grade trades instantly, but they started to 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: do some revisions. So let's start with a fun one. 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: The Orioles. The Orioles get Trevor Rodgers. The Marlins get 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: Kyle Stowers and Connor Norby. The Orioles like to hold 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: on to prospects too long. Those two didn't really have 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: a spot, but they had to be on the big 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: league team. So the Ools think they're just trading some 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: depth away. And the original grade was Marlin's A Orioles C. 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: The revised grades are Marlin's A plus plus plus and 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: the Orioles got a B. Trevor Rodgers has pitched better 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: so far in his limited work this year. What do 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: you think about this one? 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: To start? Cam, He's got one more year of control 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: after this too. 22 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: Trevor, listen, I agree. I have to agree with the A. 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 4: The A especially on the Marlins zone when you look 24 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 4: at what the Orioles have done, and also too nobody 25 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 4: talks about this connor Norby was the big fish in 26 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 4: that trade. Stours was was low key like the throwing guys, 27 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 4: So no point intend on the big fish. But I 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 4: think this is pretty fair evaluation on this one. 29 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: I do. 30 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: I also like it. 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's they nailed it, Like 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 5: even right out of the gate with with Rogers. I 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 5: think that maybe even a month after, you know, after August, 34 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 5: they would have said it was a D or maybe 35 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 5: an F for the Orioles. But you can't you can't. 36 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 5: You can't ignore what Norby and Stowers, who was the 37 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 5: All Star this year for the Marlins, have done since 38 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 5: they've been there, and they seem to get these core guys. 39 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 5: Though Rogers has hitched better as of late. I mean, 40 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 5: the value really might come from trading him away because 41 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 5: they're not really in it, so uh, they could get 42 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 5: a little bump by get rid of him, but that's 43 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 5: not what they wanted. So I would definitely say it 44 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 5: has gotten better on the oil side, but definitely the 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 5: Marlins get the w on this one. 46 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: Okay, let's move to the Rays and the Padres. Remember 47 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: last year the Rays sold They're very decisive. They were like, 48 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: we are selling short term pieces, and this one actually 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: was a bit of a long term piece too. Jason 50 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: Adam gets dealt away to the Padres and in return, 51 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: the Rays receive outfielder Homer Bush, junior catcher j D. Gonzalez, 52 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: and right into pitcher Dylan LESCo, who is a pretty 53 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: big name prospect to Ustak has fallen a bit. And 54 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: now the original grades had the Rays as an A, 55 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: the Padres as a B. They're giving the Padres a B. 56 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: They're giving the Rays as C as those prospects. You know, 57 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: I haven't taken great steps, or at least some of 58 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: them so far. 59 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 2: Here. 60 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: Who wants to go first on this one? I will 61 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: disagree with the revised grade. I don't know how much 62 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: more you want than Jason Adam looking himself and then 63 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more than that and cam For me, 64 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: the Padres were went away from beating the Dodgers and 65 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: getting to the World and in my mind, I think 66 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: they would have gotten into the World Series last year 67 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: and won it, and then this year they still have 68 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: a four headed monster in their bullpen and Jason Adam 69 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: is one of those guys, so I think they still 70 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: got it wrong. 71 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: I'm giving the Padres an A. 72 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: One hundred was the the original grade was an A. 73 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: Right, original grade was Padres B and they kept it there. 74 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: They did the raising, okay, and now they give the 75 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: A C because the prospects haven't shined yet. 76 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have flipped it. 77 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 4: It's definitely a Padres and A now and then really 78 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: until we see what those prospects do. It's probably like 79 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 4: a D for me for the raise, and I say 80 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: an A for the Padres, especially when you look at 81 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 4: how banged up the Dodgers are right now. 82 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 3: Right the beauty of our game, and when you talk 83 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: about you. 84 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: Know, collective, the collective, competitive balance or whatever you want 85 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 4: to call it, there's there's always a different champion in 86 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 4: our game, right, that's the beauty of our game. 87 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: It's very rare you see back to back grocery champs. 88 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 4: So for me, I think you look at where the 89 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: Padres are right now, where the Dodgers are banged up, 90 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: Jason Adam is going to be a big part of 91 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 4: the success that they have going down in the end stretch. 92 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna have to disagree. 93 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: And he was an All Star, so he's an all 94 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: star who is not always closing as well, So you 95 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 4: got to give him a lot of credit for what 96 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 4: he's done for that bullpen. 97 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 6: One hundred percent. 98 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 5: Uh, It's it comes down to, like, what was your 99 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 5: intent with the trade? 100 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 3: Right? 101 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 5: Maybe the bee there comes from they think they should 102 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 5: have gotten more than just Jason Adam because he is 103 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 5: just one reliever. That could be a case being made, 104 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 5: but like in terms of getting what you were expecting 105 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 5: to get, Jason Adam has been the most rock slid 106 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 5: reliever in the major leagues in the last three years, 107 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 5: full stop. Like he has been top notch and done 108 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 5: the same thing every year in been elite. So they've 109 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 5: gotten that version of him. So if that's not an a, 110 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 5: I don't know what to tell you. And we just 111 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 5: when it comes to prospects, was their plan for these 112 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 5: guys to be part of the equation in the next 113 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 5: two years the next year Because if it's the next year, 114 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 5: it's a d. But if it's in the next two years, 115 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 5: we got to wait and see. 116 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 3: Wow, that rhyme. 117 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 5: Doesn't mean it too, But you can take that and 118 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 5: that if you want so. I'm a huge Jayson Adam fan. 119 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 5: I think that he anything involving him and you get him, 120 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 5: it's an a because he's he just does what he's 121 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 5: He does what he does and there's been no slowing. 122 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: I like that. I like that, you know what. 123 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 4: I like that what Trev just said too, I just 124 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 4: got goosebumps. You know what I always say, Scott, there's 125 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 4: no stat for character not to mention the guy you're getting. 126 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 4: I just spoke to this guy, and Trev knows a 127 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 4: lot of dudes just come off All Star game. I 128 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 4: can text crickets. I get it, you're an All Star. 129 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: You know. 130 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 4: I'm just a civilian now. But Jason Adams immediate text back, 131 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 4: immediate reply. The dude is one of those glue guys 132 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 4: also in the clubhouse, and there's no staff for that. 133 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: So I love what r I love the point Trev made. 134 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: Hey, you know the famous tweet from Sam Miller years 135 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: back where he's like, the race made a trade, right? 136 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: I love it. Who they get? 137 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: You remember seeing that one? It went super viral? Did 138 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: you ever see that one? 139 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: Trevor? 140 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 5: I not ringing any bells, but I bet you I 141 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 5: didn't see it. I bet you it happens every year 142 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 5: because they're always in some trade like this. 143 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 2: Dude, it was really good. 144 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: Hold on, let me, I'll try and pull it as 145 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: we're chatting here. But anyway, the reason I bring it 146 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: up is have the Rays lost a little bit of 147 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: their touch? Not in terms of wins and losses, but 148 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking at another deal from last year. 149 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: They traded away Yestak Parades to the Cubs and they 150 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: got Christopher Morrell. Morell is definitely you know, stack cast starling, 151 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: but it hasn't come together for him either. They gave 152 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: the Rays a B minus, they gave the. 153 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: Cubs a B. 154 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: To me, the Cubs get an A because it ended 155 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: up being a part of a future deal to get 156 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: them Kyle Tucker, who's a superstar. So now we can 157 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: push that one forward. And I don't know if either 158 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: of you want to comment first on what you would 159 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: give the raise right now for taking a chance on 160 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: a player like that and giving up someone in Paradis 161 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: who also, even just in his own right, was an 162 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: All Star again this year, is a really solid player. 163 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: Listen. 164 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, again, I agree, I don't I get I would 165 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 4: give you know, what Because the Rays have been so 166 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 4: ingrained in their ways right trying to get prospects to hit, 167 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 4: it's starting to finally finally backfire. You know, when we 168 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 4: were coming up, prospects meant you haven't done a damn thing. 169 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 4: But the Rays have done a great job of getting 170 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 4: prospects that eventually have got to the big league, they 171 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 4: have blossomed, and they continue to flip them for more prospects. 172 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: We're here late. It's not working out that way. 173 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 4: So I think, you know, to some maybe to some point, 174 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: I've been with those people who've also been like, man, 175 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 4: the Rais have got really lucky hitting on all these prospects. 176 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 4: Maybe the luck is starting to change, right So if 177 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 4: I'm thinking in my way, I'm definitely giving them a 178 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 4: C or you know, a C minus right now. And 179 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: so these prospects, like Tramp said, start to work out 180 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 4: and figure it out. 181 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 5: It comes down to win. It just comes down to win. 182 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 5: I think we're just used to them getting a big 183 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 5: league ready guy who steps right in and is valuable, 184 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 5: and then one of the prospects comes up, like either 185 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 5: a month later or the next year and is immediately 186 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 5: you know, one of the dominant guys in the bullpen 187 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 5: or he's like closing games or you know, or he's 188 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 5: just hitting three and hitting thirty bounds for whatever. They 189 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 5: always have someone that seems to do that. That second 190 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 5: part doesn't seem to be happening last few even though 191 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 5: there's a couple under the radar. Ones last year they 192 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 5: went and grot Joe Boyle. He's been great since he's 193 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 5: been there. They put him in the pen and he's dominating. 194 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 5: He could be the next you know, Fairbanks. It's completely possible, 195 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 5: just kind of going on the raider because the reliever. 196 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 5: So there is a couple they're still getting the value 197 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 5: out of. But like I would say, like Christopher Morrel 198 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 5: versus Fretis, that's not really lining up the way that 199 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 5: they had hoped yet. But again, there's like still a 200 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 5: bunch a handful, like five or plus prospects that are 201 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 5: in double triple A, and it's completely within the possibility 202 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 5: that they two of them come up in April next 203 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 5: year and then we're like, oh, okay, they win. So 204 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 5: it's a wait and see game, but that's how they operate. 205 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 5: So maybe it's just taking longer than normal. 206 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, for the morel Paradius matchup, it's more obvious. I mean, 207 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: Praatis again having a great year, Morell still sub one 208 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: hundred ohps plus ninety and then not giving you enough. 209 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a zero baseball reference war right now. 210 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: So if you matched those two players up, it's not 211 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: really close. It's a good question for Mark Hopkins, so 212 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: we'll bring this up to him too, to see how 213 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: the Rays have been lately with trades. I think their 214 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: development has also taken a step up. For a while, 215 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: they were drafting great. Now now in the past five 216 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: to seven years it's been much better. But you go 217 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier when they were still okay, they 218 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: were actually dominating and winning trade after trade, and we 219 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: found the tweet here to send us off. Sam Miller 220 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: in fourteen said, love this trade for the race. Who'd 221 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: they give up and who'd they get? So if I'm 222 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: last point here, Trevor, if I'm the Orioles, for example, 223 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: and I get a random call about Brian Baker with 224 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: super interest and essentially a first round pick, don't you 225 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: have to stop for a moment and say, should we 226 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: actually just trade Baptista and make him our closer? The 227 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: Ra's are obsessed with him. 228 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think that when it comes to 229 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 5: relievers too, you got to just be open at any 230 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 5: of that stuff and slotting people in to those roles, 231 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 5: especially backhand guys, and if there's like increase value that 232 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 5: you can get just based on need right now, like 233 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 5: you're not gonna get more value for relievers moving than 234 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 5: at the trade DeLine because they're so valuable in a 235 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 5: playoff run. 236 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: They're so valuable in the playoffs themselves. 237 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 5: They're the most valuable they'll ever be in those situations. 238 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 5: And so I think taking advantage of those situations, like 239 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 5: the Twins have a couple right that are probably the 240 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 5: top premium guys. They really need to think about going 241 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 5: to getting a lot for those those guys. I think 242 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 5: that that is it's always in need for everybody. And 243 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 5: if you have two or three to move, or you 244 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 5: have one like a Brian Baker, or you have someone 245 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 5: you can move out, you just pull a Brewers and 246 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 5: trade your closer and then put the next guy who's 247 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 5: going to be your closer the next four years in there, 248 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 5: Like you gotta do it. You gotta do it because 249 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 5: it's going to pay off long term. 250 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: Hey, Tanner, Scott said his MRI just showed inflammation, no 251 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: structural or ligament damage. Plant is not throw for a 252 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: couple days and go from there. But the best possible outcome, 253 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: seemingly this coming from Fabian, Nardia and Trevor, the Dodgers 254 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: will be bullpen shopping. 255 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 5: I didn't know. I don't know how that's possible after 256 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 5: going into this year, but I do believe. I heard 257 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 5: on loud Out's yesterday by by Spillburg's spillboorg that they 258 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 5: have eleven guys on the sixty day. 259 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: I believe they're all pictures. 260 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 5: Eleven that is, that's increasble I can't I'm still processing. 261 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 5: I don't know how that's possible. So for them to 262 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 5: be able to need need to go get some guys 263 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 5: after how promising it was. I mean, I don't envy 264 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 5: that that medical staff and the flag they're getting over there, 265 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 5: because I know a lot of this isn't their fault. 266 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 5: But man, well, if anyone has the capital to do 267 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 5: it or the savvy I guess to put together clever, 268 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 5: creative packages and stuff, it's the Dodgers, and expect them 269 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 5: to be one of the bigger buyers at the deadline. 270 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: As they always are. 271 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 5: That might be boring, they might not be boring, but 272 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 5: it's probably gonna happen. 273 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: Sorry, And it's the guys they're going after too, cam. 274 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think any of us can speak 275 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: well enough about you know, medical staff and all that 276 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 1: without knowing the people and what's being recommended and all that. 277 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: But I mean, the Dodgers go after these riskier arms 278 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: that often have an injury history, and then this happens. 279 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, this one is a tough one for me. 280 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 4: You know, has Michael Kopak been hear? I don't know. 281 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 3: Tony Gosling, Evan Phillips is he has a history of injury. 282 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: I don't know. 283 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: I have to go look at it. But just to 284 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 4: go back to your point, they will be in the 285 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: market for arms at the end of the day. You know, people, 286 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 4: a lot of people are making out how bad the 287 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 4: Dodgers have played. 288 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: But listen, they're still in first place. I think they're 289 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: three games up. 290 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 4: And the Dodgers at the end of the day, they're 291 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 4: playing for, you know, a World Series. They're not playing 292 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 4: for the Pennant Uh, they're not. They're not playing for 293 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 4: the division. They would love to do it, but they 294 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: want to win a championship at the end of the day. 295 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 4: And I don't know where some of these guys are 296 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 4: in a sixty day rehab either, because I heard Blake 297 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 4: Trnon has been throwing a little bit u they say, 298 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 4: rokies up to you know, ninety miles per hour. So 299 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 4: there are the reports coming about coming back, you know, 300 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 4: out about some of these guys possibly being ready. So 301 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 4: we'll also see two you know, do you get these 302 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 4: guys back and actually ready for October? 303 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: We don't know, yep. 304 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: And all that combo sponsored by Arena Club arenaclub dot 305 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: com slash values code foul for twenty percent off your 306 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: first slab pack or card purchase. FTFANB right Back, Best 307 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: Time of Year, Front Office, Unfiltered right JB. Jim Bowden 308 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: with us right now or Resident GM Jim. We'll get 309 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: into some info that you're hearing about teams. But I 310 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: want to hit people hard right from the jump. So 311 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: I've read everything you've put out there in the Athletic 312 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: really ever, but especially this week. 313 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: You had some trade ideas. 314 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: I want to start with one that you came up 315 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: with for the Mets and the Yankees and let everyone know, 316 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: these aren't actual talks. This is an idea from someone 317 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: who has done this for a while. But give us 318 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: what you got. 319 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, so I think you're referring to the Yankees Mets 320 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 7: deal Jason Domingez for Mark Viento's Is that the one 321 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 7: referring to or was it Gisham for baiting? 322 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 6: Okay? 323 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 7: So either way, so this is what I'm hearing, right, Like, 324 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 7: you know, the Yankees are pursuing Henio Suarez like a 325 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 7: lot of teams are. Five other teams are pursuing him. 326 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 7: We get that not a great defender at third base. 327 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 7: But you know, if he does get traded, which is 328 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 7: still a question mark, we're not going to know until 329 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 7: next week. You know, there's no promise that the Yankees 330 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 7: can pick him up, and so they've looked around the 331 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 7: other third basement available. Ryan McMahon and Colorado, right, Cabrian 332 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 7: Hayes over there in Pittsburgh. You know, neither one of 333 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 7: them really tickles their fancy for understandable reasons. And so 334 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 7: you know, how do the Yankees make a contender for 335 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 7: contender trade to kind of solve the third base situation 336 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 7: for them? And so you know, I came up with 337 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 7: the idea of Jason Dominguez going to the Mets for Ventos, 338 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 7: you know, two similar talents. 339 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 6: Changes scenery might help both guys. 340 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 7: For the Yankees, you know, they've got Bellinger, Grisham and 341 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 7: Judge in the outfield, and Spencer Jones is ready. He's 342 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 7: at twenty six homers in the your leagues. He's been 343 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 7: on base at a forty percent clip all year. He's 344 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 7: made incredible adjustments and quite frankly, the minute the Yankees 345 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 7: promote Jones, they're gonna have a better team. That may 346 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 7: end up being one of the best acquisitions they make 347 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 7: at the deadline. He's just calling him up from Triple A. 348 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 7: So because of the outfield depth, I kind of feel 349 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 7: like maybe they could take an outfielder turn it into 350 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 7: a third baseman, and if it's not the Mets, you know, 351 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 7: maybe it's the Royals and mikel Garcia the All Star 352 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 7: third baseman. But it may end up being a contender 353 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 7: for contender type of trade where they trade from some 354 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 7: depth in the outfield to try to get a third baseman. 355 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 6: So that was my thinking behind it. 356 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 4: Hey, hey, Jim, I love that because I haven't thought 357 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: about that at all. You just made me audible from 358 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: my original question because I know a lot has been 359 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 4: said about Ron McMahon not being liked as a Yankee. 360 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 4: I know a lot of that has to do with 361 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 4: the contract, but I feel like there could be or 362 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 4: could there be a situation where the Rockies may be 363 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 4: willing to eat some of that to move robick mannon. 364 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 4: And why wouldn't he fit in New York when you 365 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: talk about that ballpark, when you talk about a guy 366 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 4: playing baseball, and the guy still at a young age 367 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 4: where I think we've seen already he has been an 368 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 4: All Star, you know there. 369 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 3: I think there's still some positive things that he could do. 370 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 4: Why is that not a fit of what have you 371 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 4: heard on the reason why they don't like him? 372 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 7: I think they want to do better than McMahon, right, 373 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 7: I mean, look at Ryan's not the same guy it 374 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 7: was three years ago. 375 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 6: I agree with you. I think the Rockies can pay 376 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 6: it down. 377 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 7: I'm not sure the front office has shown much creativity 378 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 7: in those kind of trades, but maybe that'll change it 379 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 7: this year's deadline. But it's just what I'm hearing, right, 380 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 7: you know, I stay pretty plugged into the front offices 381 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 7: of all thirty teams, and you know, I just get 382 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 7: I get the feeling that, you know, the Yankees love 383 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 7: Suarez his power, they don't love the defense analytic department 384 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 7: doesn't love Hayes or McMahon. 385 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,239 Speaker 6: It doesn't mean the Scouts wouldn't take a chance on him. 386 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 7: You know, I might take a chance on him if 387 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 7: I didn't have to give up much and the Rockies 388 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 7: ate the contract. But you know, contracts matter in both 389 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 7: McMahon's and Hayes's situation and production the last year and 390 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 7: a half. When you're talking about those kind of guys, 391 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 7: remember the expectations in New York is to win a 392 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 7: World Series or bus not just beat Toronto and win 393 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 7: the Al East. You know, they're trying to win a 394 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 7: World Series, and so I think they're shooting for better. 395 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 7: They're shooting for the Suarez or Michel Garcia or Mark 396 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 7: Ventos or that next level above McMahon, above Hayes. 397 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, that was gonna be my next question that 398 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 4: what would be their their next best? 399 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 5: Uh? 400 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 3: And you said Michael Garcia. 401 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 4: Uh, but I want to go back to the Yankees 402 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 4: and talking about prospects and you being locked in and connected. 403 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: Who is it? 404 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 4: Spencer Jones to get a Euheno Suarez or Mark like, 405 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 4: who would they have to give up? Is it a 406 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 4: would you have to give up a major league ready 407 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 4: guy to go get one of those guys? 408 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: Or is it a forty eighty great player. I'm just curious. 409 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, well you're not getting Spencer Jones from the Yankees 410 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 7: and you're not getting George Lombard Junior from the Yankees. 411 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 7: So just put them aside and understand, and that's not happening. 412 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 7: That being said, you can get Roderick Arius as the 413 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 7: headliner middle infielder, you know, really solid player. You know, 414 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 7: you saw them bring up Cam Scutler to join their rotation. 415 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 7: He could get involved with Arias to try to land Suarez. 416 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 7: That would probably be some something close to what the 417 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 7: Yankees would be willing to do. And look, the Yankees 418 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 7: look at Arizona and say, if you do sell, we 419 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 7: do match up well because I could use either Gallon 420 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 7: or Merrill Kelly and I could use Surez. Those are 421 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 7: my two biggest needs. And so I think the Yankees 422 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 7: will work hard to try to do that. But under 423 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 7: no circumstances for a two month rental for any of 424 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 7: those guys. I just mentioned, are you getting Jones or Lombard? 425 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 6: You're just not. And really the. 426 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 7: Yankees need to find a pathway or a runway or 427 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 7: have a little bit more open mind of getting Jones 428 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 7: to the big leagues right now because he's so locked in. 429 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 7: And it's not just the power. I mean, he said 430 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 7: ten homers since he got promoted to Triple A. Like 431 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 7: I'm just telling you. In anyone that's seen this kid, 432 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 7: you know he's got that presence, but he's got that speed, 433 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 7: power combination, and he can play all three outfield positions, 434 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 7: all three right, center or left, wherever you want to 435 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 7: put him. The big question has always been the hit tool. 436 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 7: You know, he used to bar with his left arm 437 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 7: cam and that's what made us concern that he wouldn't 438 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 7: hit high velo inside. He's made that adjustment, so he's 439 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 7: not getting traded and I think you'll see him in 440 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 7: the big leagues either in August or September for the Yankees. 441 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: Time for a quickie break. Todd Father and I are 442 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: going to tell you about Hughele, but it's mostly going 443 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: to be Todd Father because I'm going to take a sip. 444 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 8: Well, we're talking about Huel twenty seven vitamins and minerals. 445 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 8: It's a complete meal. Let's listen. We all have busy 446 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 8: schedules of Scott's sipping it down. It looks delicious, it 447 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 8: tastes delicious. 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They 468 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 5: think that the bullpen is the only place they really 469 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 5: need to touch your what's your take on that? What 470 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 5: do you think the Brewers could use? They just moved 471 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 5: into the best record in the major leagues. A lot 472 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 5: of things are going right over there. So how you 473 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 5: feeling about that take? 474 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, tre First of all, Milwaukee won the trade 475 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 7: devine right. They got two number one starters right now. 476 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 7: One came for the minor leagues and Jacob Mazarowski, and 477 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 7: one came off the injured list in Brandon Woodruff. 478 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 6: But now you put him with Haralter. They got three 479 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 6: number ones. 480 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 7: So not only are they the favorites to win the Central, 481 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 7: they can run the table in October and when a 482 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 7: World's Series. They're at a great spot. And look, I 483 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 7: agree with the fans that they need a relief pitcher. 484 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 6: I'd go get an arm two. 485 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 7: But you know, it is very clear based on the 486 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 7: teams Milwaukee has talked to, they would like to upgrade 487 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 7: the left side of the infield with a bat, either 488 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 7: at shortstop or a third base, regardless of what the 489 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 7: fans think. What matters is what the front office thinks, right, 490 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 7: So what Matt Arnold thinks, it's what Pat Murphy thinks. 491 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 7: And I think when you look at Joey Ortiz at shortstop, 492 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 7: he's hitting two fourteen with seven homers. 493 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 6: That's just a fact. 494 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 7: Caleb Durbin at third base, we all love them out 495 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 7: of the fans love him. He's hitting two sixty one 496 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 7: with five homers. So that's what they've gotten on the 497 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 7: left side of the infield. I think it makes sense 498 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 7: that the Brewers are calling around to see if they 499 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 7: can upgrade at one of the two positions, to try 500 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 7: to add a little bit more punch to the left 501 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 7: side of the enfield and late in the lineup a 502 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 7: little bit. 503 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 6: Look, they're gonna have the pitching in October, as I said, 504 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 6: to go all the way to the World Series. They are. 505 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 7: But are they gonna be able to hit with the 506 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 7: Cubs if they face them? Will they hit with the Dodgers? 507 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 7: Will they hit with the Mets and the Phillies? Will 508 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 7: their offense be able to match up in those two 509 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 7: one three two games to win those? I think if 510 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 7: I'm running the Brewers, I would feel comfortable going to 511 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 7: get let's just say, Griffin Jacks from the Twins from 512 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 7: my bullpen. And if I could be the team that 513 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 7: beats out the Yankees and Mariners and Cubs to get 514 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 7: you Hennio Suarez to put on that team, boy, I 515 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 7: feel good about my chances. So look, the fans may 516 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 7: not think they did an upgrade on the left side 517 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 7: of the enfield. That's fine, you know, and I respect fans. 518 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 7: But let me tell you this, your GM and Milwaukee's 519 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 7: executive of the year, the Rainy executive of the year. 520 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 7: I think I would trust his opinion a little bit 521 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 7: more than yours. 522 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: I'm with you, man, Arland knows what he's doing. 523 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: And let's remember that the Brewers had a lot of success, 524 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: but not October success. 525 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: They need more thumb. I'm with you, JB. Yet, we 526 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 2: got a lot of comments yesterday like, no. 527 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: We're not touching anything, Joey Ortiz, Durbin, etc. I'm like, really, 528 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: you wouldn't take a Geno Suarez. You want to disrupt 529 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: that nine. You're crazy, right, So it was important to 530 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: bring that up. I want to stay in the division 531 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: because you also came out with the article yesterday on 532 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: six front offices on the hot seat talking about some execs. 533 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: And while we're in the NL Central, you have Carter 534 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: Hawkins and Jed Hoyer on there as they don't have 535 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: a contract after this year, and that's somewhat rare in 536 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: our business. So what do you think about what the 537 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: Cubs could do and do you think they'll be more 538 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: aggressive than they have in the past. Sometimes I felt 539 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: like theo Epstein with Jed Hoyer together, we're kind of 540 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: yin yang. THEO a little more aggressive, Jed a little 541 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: more measured. Let's make sure we hang on to the 542 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: right guys and not trade them away. But what do 543 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: you think Jed will do now that there's a little 544 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: bit of heat not only from the contract but also 545 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: from the Brewers. 546 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, first of all, I can't believe the ownership hasn't 547 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 7: taken care of Jed Hoyer and Carter Hawkins and signed 548 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 7: them a long term. 549 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 6: They deserve it. 550 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 7: They brought in Craig Counsel, and they made the trade 551 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 7: for Kyle Tucker and they're sitting here with one of 552 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 7: the best six teams in the National League with a 553 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 7: real chance at a World Series. And so why they 554 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 7: haven't been taken care of is beyond me, and I 555 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 7: think it's a mistake. I think they should go to 556 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 7: the podium and announce their long term extensions myself. That 557 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 7: being said, yeah, there's pressure under them to win now. 558 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 7: I think they've seen what has happened in Milwaukee. That's 559 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 7: going to be a fun race to the end. But 560 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 7: I think if you want to beat them, you need pitching, 561 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 7: You need another starter. I would argue you need another reliever. 562 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 7: Of course, I would argue every contender needs another reliever. 563 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 7: And they haven't gotten the production at third base that 564 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 7: they want, so I mean their needs are very similar 565 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 7: to the Yankee same kind of needs, right a starting 566 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 7: pitcher and a third baseman. 567 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 6: So you know, I think they're going to be aggressive. 568 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 3: You know. 569 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 7: One of the things that Jed Hoyer was talking about 570 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 7: when he hired Counsel is he went back and kind 571 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 7: of reflected on when they hired Joe Madden won the 572 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 7: World Series, and that was kind of the thinking. 573 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 6: When he went from David. 574 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 7: Ross to Craig Council last year it didn't really work. 575 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 7: They knew they had to get a big trade and 576 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 7: someone that could carry them. They got Tucker and then 577 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 7: PCA arrived this year and had his breakout year, and 578 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 7: so boom, here they are. But I do think that Jed, 579 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 7: like he had the memory of hiring Madden and tried 580 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 7: to copy that with counsel, is going to try to 581 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 7: do the same thing. And if you remember when THEO 582 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 7: went big right and went and brought in a role 583 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 7: as Chapman, and he wasn't afraid to trade a top 584 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 7: prospect like Eloy Jimenez, I think that blueprint is exactly 585 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 7: what Jed is planning because I've heard from too many 586 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 7: opposing GMS the mumbling of Owen Cassie, their young, power 587 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 7: hitting left fielder in the minor leagues. I just have 588 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 7: heard his name over and over again, and I kept 589 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 7: hearing and it never happened that Cassie was probably going 590 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 7: to be traded to the Pirates from Mitch Keller, which 591 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 7: made a lot of sense to me for both sides. Right, 592 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 7: the Cubs get that starting pitcher in the rotation, Pirates 593 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 7: get much needed power back to help try to build 594 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 7: that offense there. Look, it still may happen. I don't know, 595 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 7: but I've heard Cassie's name everywhere. That leads me to 596 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 7: believe because I know Jed doesn't want to trade him. 597 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 7: He was part of the you Darvish deal, and I 598 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 7: know that you know he wants him to get to 599 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 7: the big leagues and help him win, especially if they 600 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 7: can't resign Tucker. But just because that name has been 601 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 7: out there everywhere and I'm hearing it all over the 602 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 7: industry makes me believe he's ready to go all in 603 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 7: at this deadline. So it's gonna be a fun team 604 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 7: to watch. It's gonna be a fun deadline. I don't 605 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 7: think we're gonna get a lot of action till next week. 606 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 7: I don't think we're gonna see deals trickle in. I 607 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 7: think it's gonna take time, but I'll be surprised that 608 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 7: the Cubs aren't active at the buzzer. 609 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 4: Hey, hey, Jim, we talk about pitching, I'm excuse me, 610 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 4: talk about hitting. 611 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 3: We talk about moves that we made, teams that could 612 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 3: go all in. 613 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 4: I want to know when I look at guys like 614 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 4: Seth Lugo, Zach Gallen, Sandy Alcntra, who's that one team 615 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 4: or who's the team that can make him move for 616 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 4: one of those guys. And I know Sandy hasn't pitched 617 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 4: like he wants to, Like we know he can, Nor 618 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 4: has Zach and Seth Lugo has been outstanding, But who's 619 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 4: that team that can make him move for one of 620 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 4: those guys? When you talk about a rotation like Milwaukee, 621 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 4: you talk about the Cubs being right there, who's that 622 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 4: team that could take one of those guys and it 623 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 4: really could propel them because you know, like I know, 624 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 4: as much as we talk hitting, you need pitching to 625 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 4: keep you in the game until the bats get going. 626 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 3: So who's that guy for you? 627 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 6: Yeah? 628 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 7: So let me because he threw three names there and 629 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 7: I need to like address all three. So is Sanuel 630 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 7: Contrey just isn't back to being the guy he was 631 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 7: when he won the Cy Young Award, And so the 632 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 7: Marlins aren't going to be able to get the return 633 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 7: that they need for the talent that he has. So 634 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 7: I think they're going to be best holding him and 635 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 7: hope that he pitches better in August, in September and 636 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 7: then revisit this in the off season when free agent 637 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 7: pitchers cost two hundred million or you can trade for 638 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 7: a Contra. I think they're better off holding him. I 639 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 7: do think they will listen on Edward Cabrera. They don't 640 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 7: want to move him, but they will listen on Cabrera, 641 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 7: and as long as the medicals are okay, you know, 642 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 7: he could end up being the best pitcher that's traded. 643 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 7: So I think that's going to be interesting. Zach Gallan 644 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 7: is kind of frustrating to look at. I think it 645 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 7: really depends is there a pitching room out there that 646 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 7: knows how to fix them? For the buzzer, you know, 647 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 7: does the group with the Mets or the Red Sox 648 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 7: or the Yankees do they look and say, hey, I 649 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 7: know why he hasn't lived up to the expectations we have, 650 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 7: because I think that would be the most likely landing spot. 651 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 7: To your point, I think the safest trades right now 652 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 7: are for Mitch Keller, Seth Lugo, and Merrill Kelly. I 653 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 7: think those are the three pitchers most likely traded, and 654 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 7: I think they're the three that are the lowest risk 655 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 7: of all them out there now. Who has enough to 656 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 7: get them? I mean the Cubs certainly are a team 657 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 7: that has that. The Yankees, I think have enough and 658 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 7: I know that's a priority for them. 659 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 6: And don't sleep on the Blue Jays. 660 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 7: I don't think their farm system is as good as 661 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 7: the Cubs or Yankees. 662 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 6: But you know. 663 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 7: They are all in right now, right I think they 664 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 7: smell this right now. They've got a little bit of 665 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 7: a lead, but their schedule is not going to be 666 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 7: as easy down the stretch in September's as the Yankees is. 667 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 7: So if they could end up adding another pitcher right now, 668 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 7: it might be a huge difference maker for them. But 669 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 7: those are the teams that I'm looking at the most. 670 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 7: Go grab a starter. 671 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 5: Speaking of teams who already have pitching, Seattle Mariners, Jerry Depoto. 672 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 5: They seem to be in this exact position every single 673 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 5: trade deadline. 674 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 6: According to my. 675 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 5: Numbers, GUARDI my numbers, they're only at fifty three point 676 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 5: four percent of wins this year, which is below quota. 677 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 5: What does that mean for Jerry to Poto and what 678 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 5: are the Mariners? What do you think is most likely 679 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 5: for the Mariners to do at this break to maybe 680 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 5: add a couple more wins that's sneak into the playoffs. 681 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 7: Well, I mean, first of all, they got to hope 682 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 7: that Arizona sells, and they got to hope they can 683 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 7: convince them to be the team that gets Suarez or 684 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 7: Josh Naylor. Either one of them, I think either one 685 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 7: of them is the difference maker for the Seattle Mariners. 686 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 7: They got to get another bat for me. I also 687 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 7: think they need another reliever as well, And I think 688 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 7: Jerry Depota has a long history of being able to 689 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 7: go get that under the radar bullpen arm. So I 690 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 7: think you'll go get that. But you need another back 691 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 7: to length in that lineup to help out cal Rawley, 692 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 7: to help out Julio Rodriguez, and so we'll see. You know, 693 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 7: I think Jerry's under an extreme amount of pressure, and 694 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 7: I don't think his job necessarily is on the line, 695 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 7: but the pressure in Seattle and from the fan base. 696 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 6: They're tired of it. 697 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 7: And you know, this window to win with all this 698 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 7: great pitching isn't gonna last forever. Scar they had scares 699 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 7: this year with Kirby, they had scares with Bryce Miller, 700 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 7: they had scares with Logan Gilbert, and it's a reminder 701 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 7: how quickly pitchers can get injur him. Look at Arizona. 702 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 7: The only reason we're talking about them maybe selling, which 703 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 7: isn't a sure thing, is because Corbin Burns got hurt 704 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 7: and Zach Gallen regressed. I mean Otherwise we wouldn't be 705 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 7: talking about that. They'd be in the middle of this race. 706 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 7: And so Seattle has to take advantage of this window. 707 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 6: Now. 708 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 7: Seattle has an owner that said to Jerry Depoto, he 709 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 7: will provide the money that it takes to make the 710 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 7: big move at this deadline. So they have the resources financially. 711 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 7: Number two, they have as good and deep a farm 712 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 7: system as any contending team right now. 713 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: They have. 714 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 7: There's no excuses for Jerry Depoto or Justin Holland or 715 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 7: the GM at this deadline, no excuses. You have the 716 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 7: money and you have more top one hundred prospects than 717 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 7: any contending team right now. So you know, look, you're 718 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 7: gonna have to make a painful trade. They're gonna have 719 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 7: to make a trade at this deadline that hurts. They're 720 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 7: gonna have to trade a prospect that's gonna come back 721 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 7: and haunt them. 722 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 6: But you know what if. 723 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 7: They get Suarez and get them back, or they get 724 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 7: nailor back, and that's the difference, and they get to 725 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 7: October and that young pitching can show the world how 726 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 7: talented they are, and they get to the World Series. 727 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 7: I mean, how fun would it be to have a 728 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 7: Milwaukee Seattle World Series. I know Baseball would like and 729 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 7: the ratings would like it, but I'd get a chuckle 730 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 7: out of that. But you know, I think you got 731 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 7: to make the move now. This is the Mariner's time, 732 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 7: and I think there's as much pressure on Jerry to 733 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 7: Poto as there ever has been in his career. 734 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: One other team in that division with two minutes to 735 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: go here for us, the Texas Rangers. I know you've 736 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: liked their roster for most of the years. So two parter, 737 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: what do you think they'll do? And what would you do? 738 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 7: Bye bye baby, go get bats. You got as good 739 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 7: a pitching staff as there is. You get October. What 740 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 7: do you think they're gonna do? Man, They're just like 741 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 7: Seattle and Jacob de Gram is Jacob de Gram. You 742 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 7: get him a Valdi and lighter. Come on, now, we 743 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 7: just score some runs. And I believe in this team. 744 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 7: They've had a bad first half. I'm sorry, but now 745 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 7: they're creeping up there. A couple games over five hundred. 746 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 7: Corey Seger is starting to look like Corey Sieger. Marcus 747 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 7: Simeon's starting to turn the corner a little bit. Get 748 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 7: go get another bat? Or too beat Seattle to it. 749 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 7: You're in their own division. They can overtake Seattle. I'm 750 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 7: not sure anyone's gonna overtake Houston, to be honest, because 751 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 7: Houston beats all the good teams. They're fourteen and four 752 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 7: against first place teams this year, so I don't think 753 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,719 Speaker 7: either Seattle or Texas are catching them. But I do 754 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 7: think Houston could catch Seattle if they beat him at 755 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 7: the trade deadline. 756 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 6: And just remember this about gms. 757 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,959 Speaker 7: And I know it's coming from a former GM, but 758 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 7: the GM is just as important this next week as 759 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 7: the star player. This can be the difference whether or 760 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 7: not you make the playoffs or not. Is what can 761 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 7: the GM do to make your team better? And for me, 762 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 7: Chris Young, there's only one choice. It's not you can't sell, 763 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 7: you go buy you go get another bat, find a 764 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 7: put it. 765 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 6: I don't care if it's at first or third or DH. 766 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 6: I don't care where you put it. Go get a 767 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 6: big bat. 768 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: I remember two years ago a team won the World 769 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: Series by getting one of the prizes, and that was 770 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: Jordan Montgomery, and the team they beat wanted him badly, 771 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks. They're on the record saying they tried for him, 772 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: they failed. Chris Young won that battle and look what happened. 773 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: JB on the money as always, since this is the 774 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: most important time of year for the front offices, we'll 775 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: have you on more. We got to get all the latest, 776 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: but thanks for hanging with us for a few Thanks, guys, 777 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: appreciate it.