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Speaker 1: and that's really what we're gonna do when we're gonna

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Speaker 1: launch our interview series, Room Service Diaries.

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Speaker 2: That's the couch that they fell into and get out.

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Speaker 3: Don't know.

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Speaker 2: What are you expecting out of this interview with Brian

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Speaker 2: and Luke.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Man's just going uh excited about it.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm ready, man, Yeah, let's do it long.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 3: The champions. Bryan Campbell.

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Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to meet you, sir. I'm Glover. Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 3: Watch Try to Brazil that you know they are?

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Speaker 2: But dude, Europe, the Europe They all say Rodrigo like

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Speaker 2: his name is he?

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Speaker 3: Like Hoys Grace not Royce?

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Speaker 2: Where about sixty seconds out?

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Speaker 1: So much Connecticut up in here in the m K

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Speaker 1: as Morning Combat It to you episode one of Room

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Speaker 1: Service Diaries. Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas, and how about the

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Speaker 1: King of Connecticut, the light heavyweight champion of.

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Speaker 4: The world, Glover to share a pulling up.

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Speaker 1: A spot on our beautiful vintage couch right here, but.

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Speaker 2: Globe, how excited are you to be on a show

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Speaker 2: you've never heard of? It's great right, hey man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great to come over here expecting uh whatever, you know.

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Speaker 1: Expecting professionalism, but again, I got to be prepared, Glover.

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Speaker 1: To get a chance to sit down with you in

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Speaker 1: any situation is great because you're a wise man.

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Speaker 4: You've done it the hard way, You've done it the

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Speaker 1: You've got one of those blue collar stories that we

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Speaker 1: can all connect with. But like, damn man, like they

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Speaker 1: should make a movie about this pretty soon. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is like you've always been great once you got

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Speaker 1: to the UFC and been very elite, but the way

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Speaker 4: At the end of your career, it's got to feel

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Speaker 4: like a fantasy.

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Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, man, feel was great. You know, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how wise I am because take me

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Speaker 3: that long, you know what, I mean to get it right.

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Speaker 3: But uh, finally we got something going. Uh and I'm happy.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy with everything that's going on right now.

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Speaker 2: How did you feel the morning after you won the championship?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Then that night I saw the sun rise and

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Speaker 3: uh in the balcony of my Uh, I never went

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Speaker 3: with the hotels, we're locked down a Dhabi so and

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Speaker 3: going to close the bar, but they say, hey, are

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Speaker 3: you coming down't you eat?

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Speaker 3: We're gonna yeah, we're gonna keep the bar open, and like, uh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we come down. So uh they open to like six

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Speaker 3: We saw the sun rise and uh, man, it's incredible.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what is the champ drink right now? You're in

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Speaker 1: training camp, you got a big bike coming up. We

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Speaker 2: To be clear, but there's no there's no boot. There's

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Speaker 1: Is age too old right there? But when the champ

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Speaker 3: Uh, to be honest. At that time, man, that that day,

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Speaker 3: it didn't care, you know whatever, whatever is gonna make me,

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Speaker 3: It was just it's funny. I walked down. As I

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Speaker 3: It was a pretty cool you know. Uh, they rush

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Speaker 3: and crazy, I say, you have a beer there? Can

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Speaker 1: But like I know, like you work hard and you

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Speaker 3: You know? No, No, I never never. I like you

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Speaker 4: What does the belt mean to you?

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Speaker 4: When you look at him like, what is it symbolic?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? What do you see when you look at it?

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Speaker 3: that's that's really cool. You know you have so it's

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Speaker 3: kind of like his accomplishment, you know, it's everything. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: It isn't about just training and fighting, like we think,

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Speaker 2: Let's not the context here. If I make lover. There

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Speaker 3: Well, I come here illegally, you know, through Mexican water,

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Speaker 2: Let's let's back up a step. How'd you do it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: How did you get here?

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Speaker 4: Scary as that story to make mine?

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Speaker 3: Well, from my hometown, A lot of people Valladadi. You

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Speaker 3: I was, you know, I was nineteen years old. Man,

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Speaker 3: But it was dangerous. Oh They're always dangerous. You know.

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Speaker 3: They can, Yeah, they can do whatever. I mean, you

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Speaker 3: Nothing zero? You know, I did karaate for like two

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Speaker 1: And did you know, I mean, were you a tough guy?

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Speaker 1: Did you handle yourself? Did you have to prove yourself?

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Speaker 3: I was all big kid, you know, I was. I

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I fight with the older guys, you know, most

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Speaker 3: Click a portunity, right. I always like it. I like

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Speaker 2: So by the sixth year, you're back in Brazil and

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Speaker 3: Listening every tough time, right you you it comes flash

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Speaker 1: So what do you think you did with your time

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Speaker 1: and clear it up. Excuse me, when you look back,

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Speaker 3: Leave this man, I was just getting better and doing

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Speaker 3: to train every day like I am doing now right now.

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Speaker 3: You know, people don't people think, are like a photy

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Speaker 3: Well Tom is going to fight them up, those guys,

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Speaker 3: know every day. That's what I did back then. That's

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Speaker 4: But par he deserves to get if you want to.

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Speaker 3: I think I like men. I like when I actually

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Speaker 3: I feel really good when I'm doing the camp. You know,

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Speaker 3: this is like it's a lifestyle. Like I say, you

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Speaker 3: They sleam on the bike, you know, bike ride.

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Speaker 2: remember the day that you got the phone call or

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Speaker 2: you got that did the UFC make it work? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I got the call in August, right after I thought

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Speaker 2: Mar the beast manast man.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, right after I forught them. I got the

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Speaker 3: ask you know, to help, and it was this paper

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Speaker 3: and give a better lie and do. And I did

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Speaker 3: come here illegally. Right away, I got my text, I

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Speaker 3: So they did that, and she's like, you know I'm

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Speaker 3: I went to a corner for Pedro Hezel and Petro fought.

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Speaker 3: Can't shamrock that day. And then the guy say, hey,

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Speaker 3: appointed pulled out, so I make the weight. I'll go

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Speaker 3: and I fought. I wanted to fight, and the guy

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Speaker 3: it hard. I mean, I'm not. I'm like, I'm over man.

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Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm good. I don't want no problem. You know.

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Speaker 3: maybe five thousand dollars from you, I have nothing.

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Speaker 1: That that's you know, eat or not to eat at

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Speaker 1: that exactly a million questions we can ask you each

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Speaker 1: step of the journey. But how about you fight against

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Speaker 1: a fighter from Chuck Ladell's camp. John Hackelman sees you, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because he's like, is he at that point the champion

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Speaker 1: and the baddest man in the world when you join

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he was about a cheetah, was a champion,

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Speaker 3: was ducking him? Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah he's the

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Speaker 3: bestest Chuck the people he was already Yeah, he's already

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Speaker 3: first fight. I thought, this guy Eric Short, Eric Short

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Speaker 3: It was very bad. I barely have a conversation with him.

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Speaker 3: But then I set up, I say next year, next year,

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Speaker 3: I think beginning of two thousand and four. I went

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Speaker 4: And was he intimidating?

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Speaker 3: What was What was first was John right? John was more.

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Speaker 3: I met John Force and he's really weird. You know

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Speaker 3: Tonail's painting. You know. I was like a very like, uh,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. But then Chuck, Chuck come with his

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Speaker 3: broad you picked me up and Chalk didn't say a word.

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Speaker 3: He just sent his phone all the time. He's always text,

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Speaker 3: always text. And next day we spalled with him. I

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Speaker 3: than I went. I was fighting now, No, he was texting.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Was he testing you? Was he trying to see whether

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Speaker 3: No, No, that's that's uh No. I don't talk Chalk now,

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Speaker 3: Chuck is That's the way he is. He cool is

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Speaker 4: The damn ice man I got you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his schools can be man. He's like, uh, he's

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Speaker 3: just not a conversation guy. You know, hey, I know

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Speaker 3: he's when I come to his house, is like, hey man,

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Speaker 2: what happened.

435
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, if you don't meet coach Ack

436
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: themen and get that time in that camp, do you

437
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: think you end up having the success you.

438
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 3: Went on to have in the UFC. No, No, because

439
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 3: everything that happens is full, it's you know, what is

440
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 3: what happened? You know, it's because I'm here, I'll definitely

441
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 3: be in a different situation if you never who knows,

442
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 3: maybe I don't know, it would be a different situation

443
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 3: for sure. But did you have be a situation.

444
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 4: Right away that you could hang on that level that

445
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 4: when you went you know?

446
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, No, I have a lot of doubts

447
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 3: in there because I left my job in Connectica because

448
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 3: the first time I went, I went just to help Chuck,

449
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 3: and then I come back, I got my money situation,

450
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 3: you know, hard to make money, save money. She went

451
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,880
Speaker 3: to California in a different place. No, it's a big

452
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 3: commitment to make I just got mailed with my wife

453
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 3: in two thousand and three. So I went over there

454
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 3: in two thousand and then in two thousand and four,

455
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 3: two thousand and it begins. Two thousand and five, I

456
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 3: moved out there, and it was the times, man, it

457
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 3: was the times that I remember one time I laid

458
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 3: down in the ring that were just trained with Chuck,

459
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 3: and and Chuck was like, you know so much better?

460
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 3: You know in wrestling and jiu jitsu, and I was

461
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 3: very upsetting and start crying over there and take my

462
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 3: hand wraps off, and I called my wife and I

463
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 3: remember saying, Oh, you don't have to worry about coming

464
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 3: over here because I'm going back. Wow, you know, I

465
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:39,719
Speaker 3: don't think I have or me to do this. But

466
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 3: then in the drive home, I'm like, man, I'm twenty

467
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 3: five years old.

468
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: You know.

469
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 3: If I don't do this now, if I don't try now,

470
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: I'm going to regret it. You know, I don't want

471
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 3: to be forty two years old, you know. But I

472
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 3: say forty you know, I don't want to be forty

473
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 3: years old and think it, what if I what if

474
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 3: I had tried? You know, you probably would have this

475
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: couch if you Yeah. No, And the and the thing

476
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 3: is like, because what I'm going back for to Connecticut

477
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 3: to lunscaping? Fuck? I can do lunescaping. I don't know

478
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: if I can swear it. I can't do unescaping like

479
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 3: when I'm forty fifty. You know, I can do un

480
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 3: escaping now, you know what I mean. So that's what

481
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 3: I thought it And I was like, yeah, I'm just

482
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: gonna stay and I thought I had called her back

483
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 3: and say, yeah, just back couple of things and come

484
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 3: because nowhere else to go.

485
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 4: Though, that's a that's a that's a monster life decision, truly.

486
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: Is all right, So you finally make it to the UFC?

487
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 2: Was it all you had thought it was going to be?

488
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 2: When the thing, when the when the wind started rolling?

489
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know November when I got called for you,

490
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 3: not for you see food the thing in August, right

491
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 3: after I thought Marvin Eastman, I had a fight in

492
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: November with h called Rigous, you know, and everybody told

493
00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 3: me to not you fight because I had already deal

494
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: with the UFC. I had a deal with UC before

495
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 3: much of Brazil, and I said this sixteen fight in

496
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 3: Brazil and I didn't lost one. So I was like,

497
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 3: I'm good to go. You know, I'm good to go.

498
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: So they say, yeah, man, just wait and sign. But

499
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 3: Chuck told me one thing, say, man, you just gotta

500
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: fight everybody, because if you lose with those guys, he's

501
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: out of UFC. What the hell you think you're gonna

502
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: do in UFC? You know that's good advice. So beat everybody,

503
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: and that fight, of course November fight. If I lose

504
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 3: to Rico Rodriguez. I could be hey man, no contract.

505
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 3: When I say, hey man, if I lose to him,

506
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: what I want is the belt and John Jones, I

507
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: think already have the belt when I went, you know,

508
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 3: so let's say what what I'm gonna do looking for

509
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 3: John Jones if I can't beat Rico Rodriguez here you know,

510
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 3: and of course take the fight. Won the fight. I

511
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: was gonna fight in December and January actually was fighting

512
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 3: USC reel but my hand was hooting. I didn't hurt

513
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 3: in the fight. I heard in the training and then

514
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 3: I couldn't fight. I fought in May, and yes, was

515
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: everything I'm looking for me A guy told me in

516
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 3: a bad one time, Rya Raya. A couple of weeks

517
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 3: after I say I got my green car, you know,

518
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 3: the USC send the contract to me. Did you go?

519
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 3: And I was taking a shower and the guy just

520
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 3: pointed to me and say, hey, my friend, good luck

521
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 3: in the UFC. I know you're gonna be there. I

522
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: know you're gonna be top five in less than a year.

523
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: And one year I got you know, I'll fighting Ryan

524
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 3: Beta for elimination for the title.

525
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

526
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 3: One year later, the.

527
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: Best inspiration comes in the bathroom. I always say that's.

528
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 2: The problem, is that's your only source of Yeah, that's

529
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: the different point.

530
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: It's John Jones lucky in hindsight, you hurt your shoulder.

531
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: I mean, does did that eat at you for a

532
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: long time? That you got the title fight and you're

533
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: facing the best of all time in.

534
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 4: My opinion, John Jones.

535
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: So who knows what that's gonna happen, injury or not.

536
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: But how much do you look back, you know, bittersweet

537
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: in the years after going, Man, that was my chance

538
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: and I that wasn't.

539
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I uh, I definitely was really upset after the fight.

540
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: You know, going from strictween like twenty twenty some fights

541
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 3: WEENI streaked most of them by finishing and thinking that

542
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 3: I can knock this guy out to finish him and

543
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: uh kneel and how good he was and how tough.

544
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 3: But you know, finding tough guys and when you're in

545
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 3: there strict you just think it's positive. But like uh

546
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 3: Jones was, you know, man, he's a he's a different

547
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: beast man. He's a he did well. He uh the

548
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 3: way he fights, uh very defensive. Is he did it?

549
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 3: The great fighter and I of course I was upset.

550
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 3: Weeks weeks after they think and like, man, I gotta

551
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 3: get back to the drying board, you know, and go

552
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 3: back in and get the title again. And I never

553
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 3: really give up, you know from that time. Was I'm

554
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: not a guy that keeps thinking too much on it.

555
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: What I could have done? What did this?

556
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: Is there happen?

557
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: You know? He hurt my shoulder. I didn't. I didn't fell,

558
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 3: you know, hurt my shoulder in the locker room like

559
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 3: for example, doing and then I fell and I hurt

560
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 3: my shoulder. And then then I'll be saying, hey, man,

561
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: he he was lucky that was his time because I

562
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: hurt my shoulder in the locker room.

563
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 4: Well, some people have to be fair, some people have

564
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,959
Speaker 4: to lean on that excuse too.

565
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: No, no, but he did it though, he did it right,

566
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: So you know, like what I'm gonna say, Oh, it's

567
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: like he you know, like, what are you gonna say?

568
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: Like the guy's far fight and you lose a fight.

569
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: All well, if my nose wasn't broken, my reaps wasn't broke,

570
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: well he did it. That's why he broke your nose,

571
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

572
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 4: Well, we love that that you look at it that.

573
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 3: I always look at that way, and uh, I say,

574
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: just got to get better and uh, and I never

575
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 3: give up. I just keep going.

576
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 4: All right.

577
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: When you say never give up, it's like it's one

578
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: thing to get to the top of the mountain like

579
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: you did against john lose. Not everybody comes back and

580
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: figures out how to be their best again.

581
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 4: But you came back once some big fights.

582
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: Lost a couple, but you suffered, you know, some of

583
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: the losses, the lock the knockout loss to Rumble Johnson,

584
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: where I didn't know if you were going to be

585
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: able to come back from that and still be an

586
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: elite fighter again, because forget physically, just mentally that can

587
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: end any kind of invincibility of what's inside a man.

588
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: That's just you know, that's just tough of the loss

589
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: that you can endure. How the hell do you get

590
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: through it? Like nothing?

591
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: And also let me add to that, of the losses

592
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: that you have, the Jones one was the biggest one

593
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: because that was for the title, right, But like, was

594
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: that necessarily the toughest loss for you?

595
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? Tough us lost definitely, Uh, Anthony Johnson because the

596
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 3: way the fight was, you know, was my never been

597
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: knocked out, you know, and uh and the fight was

598
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: so quick and uh and it was all those things

599
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: ship that didn't happen to me, you know, And uh,

600
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: it cheaches you, but like at the same time, it

601
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: cheaches me what who I am? You know? It's like, uh,

602
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 3: you know who you are? I read that in the book,

603
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 3: right you You find out who you are when you

604
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: know who you are not you know, and uh and

605
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: what I am? You know to come back from this

606
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 3: and to like, uh, am I one of those water

607
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: because I'm into martial arts, you know, musasi all the meditation,

608
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 3: all the focus and you know, the guys I sed

609
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 3: to love those moved. The guys go to the mountains

610
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: and they isolate themselves. They find them insight, you know,

611
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: find it in What's What's you? Your audio? And uh

612
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: that's what I did. Man. I was like, I didn't

613
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: go to the mountains, but you know, I still focus

614
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: on on a better and get bad, I say. And

615
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: this is not gonna this is not gonna take away

616
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 3: my my drifts.

617
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 4: About boa ship.

618
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: Like seriously, bro, that's like that's some deep Nothing's gonna

619
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: stop me no matter what.

620
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 4: I'm just saying. I've seen a lot of great fighters

621
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 4: that don't.

622
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: Get to that.

623
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 4: They don't do that, they don't do that. They go,

624
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 4: I'm fine being a celebrity. Now, I'll take a couple

625
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 4: more fights. I'll put my money away.

626
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: But you're like, you just never stopped trying, is really

627
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: how you got to this position, right, You just never

628
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: stopped trying your best?

629
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, I love to fight. I love to be

630
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 3: in shape. I love the the the the mocular arts

631
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: of the the game is just the competition, you know,

632
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: and to fight over there, the big fights, the good fights,

633
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: you know, they go back and full like Anthony Smith

634
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 3: and that I can come back, you know, And how

635
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: can I beat this guys? I thought he had you

636
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like I was like in the bottom.

637
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: They're like, oh man, the refinkan it's all thinking for me,

638
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: it's like the ref and I stopped this fight because

639
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: title there's no title, all am. I afraid when I

640
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: get knockdown, will getting hit by storm by those guys

641
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: is like, oh jeez, I hope they ref don't stop this,

642
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: you know, truely, you know what I mean? Because I

643
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: don't know. Sometimes then I look at the fight, I'm like, Okay,

644
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: wasn't that bad. But when when Chiago knocked me down,

645
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: when I was in the ground, all of U stink

646
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, please don't stop this fight.

647
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: Please don't don't because all I can think is like

648
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 3: this guy come in and stop the fight, you know

649
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 3: what I mean. But because in my mind was worse

650
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: than I he thought it, you know what I mean,

651
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: Because I was kind of geezy because I fell down

652
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: with a knockdown and this guy come down. I was

653
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: just trying to hold up. You know. It was my

654
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 3: mind like Okay, don't stop, don't stop this fight.

655
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: You have flashbacks in that moment of like you know,

656
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: cutting through Mexico to come to this country, or or

657
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: you know, like what do you think about in that

658
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: moment to be able to dig that deep?

659
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: Just that fight, man, just the fight. You know, I don't.

660
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: I don't think of much, you know, empty mind. You

661
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: know Bruce this say, empty mind, be water, be relaxed,

662
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: be there at the present moment. You know, this moment

663
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: is there. It's not to think where you come from Mexico.

664
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: I come to this and I did this, and I

665
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: did theirs have nothing to identify with the things that

666
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: you did. Where you are is right there. You are

667
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: right there, you there, that body, that training, and the

668
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 3: gotta figure it out in a fight.

669
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: You know.

670
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: That's what I I see in every fight is the moment.

671
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: What can I figure out here? And nothing really because

672
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm not afraid of nothing really in

673
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 3: a fight, you know, I'm afraid to get knocked out then,

674
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: like like Anthony joelso where's the fight?

675
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: You know?

676
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: If the rat is stop, I was fighting the raft

677
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: in the ground, taking the raft. Dump the raft will

678
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 3: stop and say, hey, hold on, sec you want to

679
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 3: fight again? Yes, I want to fight again. And he's

680
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 3: got knocked out. I got backed out again. I say,

681
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 3: you want to fight again, yes, a fight. I want

682
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 3: to keep fighting, you know, because I think I can't

683
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: beat this guy, even John Jones. I I was like

684
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 3: frustrating and trying to hit him, jumping, trying to oh, man,

685
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: I gotta do a Superman punch over here and not

686
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: can imagine. And then I was like, if I do

687
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 3: a Superman punch over here and knock him out, to

688
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 3: be crazy.

689
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: I go.

690
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: I was gonna just say about John Jones quickly, is

691
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: there any part of you? I know you're you're happy

692
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: to be champion. You don't care who you have to

693
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: beat to get it. But does any part of you

694
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: wish it's like you did this redemption arc, you lost

695
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: to John Jones for the title, then you come back

696
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: and you win it back.

697
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 4: John's not in this division anymore.

698
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: Is there any like romantic side of you that wished

699
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: he would be It's a massive fight, it would be

700
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: a story, you know.

701
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know Jones? Uh, Like I say, I think

702
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: John Jones, you say the right thing, all right, John

703
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: Jones is one of the greatest of all time, and

704
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: I believe that he that he is. But I always

705
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: put a bib on my my book, right because got

706
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 3: Byby did it what he did and he never scratched

707
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 3: his uh his thing, you know, John Jones. Did you

708
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 3: know John Jones did his steroids and cheat a little

709
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 3: bit and people can say whatever, but that was a

710
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 3: cheat man, whatever he was uh was doing. So you know,

711
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 3: and maybe he's such a talent and such a great

712
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: and a lot of the fights I bet he didn't

713
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 3: do because he can't do it anymore and he's still winning,

714
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: he's still fighting. But he did it, you know. So

715
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: that's why I put a bib on a But uh,

716
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: I'm not like I say, I'm happy with this. I'm

717
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: gonna fight, uh Jimmy prohashka now and who knows me?

718
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: I'm leaving the moment and if you one days possibility

719
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: to me?

720
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: You know, how do you think? Just no one knows.

721
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. You don't know, no, no, no, But

722
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: what is your best guess on how John Jones does

723
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: it heavyweight?

724
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: Yeah? Like we say, I don't know, we don't know, right,

725
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: I think, uh, he come back with with a strategy

726
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 3: with if you don't don't of course it's gonna lose

727
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 3: some of the speed, right, but he needs the power

728
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 3: the way he does things, I think it's gonna be

729
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 3: a champ.

730
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 4: You think he's not gonna be a champ? You think

731
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 4: he wrestling will be a big part of this.

732
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 3: Yes, he's wrestled. Definitely gonna be a big part of

733
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: this for sure. Yeah. But like I say, it's the motivation.

734
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to say he's hard to save

735
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 3: his day, you know what I mean? Because of like

736
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: it's for a lot of things, a lot of things

737
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 3: you lose motivation for a lot of things, you lose

738
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 3: motivation for a knockout like uh, like Anthony Johnson, people

739
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: lose motivation. I tell people all the time. People, a

740
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 3: lot of fighters don't come back. More don come back.

741
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 3: More don't come back then come back, you know what

742
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: I mean. More fight has been a weening strick like

743
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 3: that that get knocked out. The more fighters they don't

744
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: come back from to be av again the same fighter,

745
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But like you're not.

746
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 4: Just the same fighter. You might actually be better.

747
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: Now although your style has changed.

748
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: You're doing you're focusing, in my opinion, you know, on

749
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: the basics, on the foundation, on the on the grappling,

750
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: on there's no holes in your game right now. And

751
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: you're still a badass and you're tough and all that.

752
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: But do you feel like my opinion is true that

753
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: you might be better now than you were on the

754
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: guy who thought John Jones that area of your.

755
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 3: Game, Well, mam, the mind the mindset is definitely batter

756
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 3: you know, mindset. I'm like more focused.

757
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: Now let me interject here if I may, have you

758
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: gotten everything out of the fight game you wanted and

759
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: here's what I mean. You said you want to be champion.

760
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: You got it, the prize fighting has it given you

761
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: the money that you wanted, and also maybe you don't

762
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: care about it because a lot of fighters don't. Have

763
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 2: you gotten the acclaim or the fanfare that you wanted

764
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 2: as well.

765
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: I'm happy with everything that is happening to me. I

766
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: wanted to be a champ of the world, and you know,

767
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 3: it takes me long enough and I become a champion

768
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 3: of the world. My life, I'm so happy with with

769
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 3: my life financial man, I mean, I'm super happy I

770
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: am and all set. You retired and my last fight,

771
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: you know, if I want to, that's what I want

772
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 3: to keep fighting. I have my gym. Day's doing really good.

773
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 3: I have some you know, all the investments. I have

774
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 3: a house in Brazil. I'm like, it's a simple thing.

775
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 3: I live simple. You go to my house. My house

776
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: is not like I didn't go crazy, man. I just

777
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 3: live simple and I just leave night eating good food.

778
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

779
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 4: So you didn't win the championship, No.

780
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: No, no, no no. I like to leave a good lifestyle,

781
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: you know. I like people say all the time, like

782
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 3: you got invest in this, you gotta invested in the

783
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 3: you gotta boot a bigger Jim, You gotta do this.

784
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: You gotta do that. Heay, Bro, When I'm retired, I

785
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: want to work less. Yes, they're investing all my money

786
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 3: right now. What the hell? I train in and fighting

787
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 3: for twenty years and now invest all this money and

788
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 3: real estate. This all over here, Jim over there, you

789
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: talk Jim over here in New Jersey and Jim in Connecticut.

790
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 2: What the hell? But still you see, like a lot

791
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: of fighters today, they do want to make money, and

792
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: they might make some sound financial decisions, but they like

793
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: a lot of the attention. They like a lot of

794
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: big following on social media.

795
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 3: No, I'm different.

796
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: I know it just seems like you. But is there

797
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: anything wrong with that? It may not be for you, right,

798
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: but when you see young fighters doing that, what do

799
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: you what is it? What do you make of that?

800
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: I think it's great. I think that's what the money is.

801
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 3: I think it's great. I tell my Neph, I tell everybody,

802
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: tell all my students in the gym. I say, hey, man,

803
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 3: be respectful. Bell I don't do, you know, but be

804
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 3: funny trying to do something. I get out there, man,

805
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 3: get out there, you know. And uh, like I say,

806
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 3: I'm satisfied with what I do and what I am

807
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: because I really never care about this shit. So why

808
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 3: do I complain? Why I complain? Why are you complain?

809
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, I don't have uh, you know, follows

810
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 3: on Instagram, or I don't have a big fight. I

811
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 3: never really care about this, so I never really put

812
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: my face out there to make the big money, all right.

813
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 3: I always I'm over there to fight and should be

814
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 3: a champion, should be the best, And of course by

815
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 3: being the best, you're gonna make money. Automatica right you can,

816
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: and that you supposed to like boxing. That's all. Like

817
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: they don't have to sell much, but still today is

818
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: a seller. Today is the pay per view. Right todays

819
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: you put a boring fighter there. But right now a

820
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 3: lot of the boring fighters they talk. They talk, so

821
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: it's still selling. You know, they fight like shit, but

822
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 3: they talk you off. It pisces me off as a fan.

823
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 3: It pisces me off as a fan. I'm like this

824
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 3: fucking I talk all the ship and then back it up,

825
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: you know, as a fan, yes, but like as a

826
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 3: business I think he's doing the right thing. That's business.

827
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, hey, man, he make his money. You know,

828
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 3: some people know how to sell they know what they're doing.

829
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 3: He's making his money.

830
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 2: Your work.

831
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

832
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 4: You speak with your game and it's all what do

833
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 4: you do it for?

834
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 3: What do you do it for? Hey, I do it

835
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 3: for make money. I don't care if I cross the line.

836
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: I don't care if people gonna hate me. I don't

837
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 3: care if I'm gonna make a two hundred enemies. The

838
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: people are gonna hate me for the rest of their life. Know,

839
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: I'm here to make money, and that's the way. Beautiful, beautiful,

840
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: you here for that, you go after that. I'm here

841
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: for the belt and I'm here for to bring uh

842
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: the discipline of martial arts and the discipline of as

843
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 3: an athlete. But the show to the kids that I

844
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 3: changed to show to the people, That's what I'm here for.

845
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: But you know, to be the complete master, you got

846
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: to be all those things. You got to stand for

847
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: something which you do, hard work and all that determination.

848
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: But you all still have to be a killer, businessman,

849
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: negotiating contracts, fighting with But.

850
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 2: You can be a businessman without being an entertainer. Right

851
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 2: entertained with the fighting, But I'm telling entertaining.

852
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: I guess I wanted to ask at what point in

853
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: your career do you feel you finally began to understand

854
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: the business and how when it comes to negotiating or

855
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: whatever you do with your money outside the game, you

856
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: you figured out how to compete just as hard on

857
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: that side as you do.

858
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 3: And yeah, negotiations like uh we we didn't have a

859
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: really have a problem with UFC and uh we just

860
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 3: me and my manager, we just uh talk back and

861
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 3: full well always come out with the greet me man,

862
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 3: like I say, I'm happy with the UFC. Give me

863
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: for all these years and where I am right now

864
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: and in life and uh and you know, just pray

865
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: to continue to be like that, you know, getting Man,

866
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 3: I just blessed, you know. I can't. I can't ask

867
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 3: for anything more. But I fight because I like and

868
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: uh like I say, now it's actually, man, if I

869
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: want a little toy, a little gift, you know, and

870
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: I go and there and get another fight and defend

871
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: the title one more and more time, a little put

872
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: a little red ting on there, you know, yeah jewel. Yeah,

873
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: so for me, it's just there right now. And I

874
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: was like, oh, we're the title. I could retire, I

875
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 3: could be, but hey, I'm doing good. I'm at the

876
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 3: top of my game. I'm feeling good. I got you

877
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 3: a point in my life there. I know, I kind

878
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 3: of find the body or right how to walk with

879
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 3: my body, how to train the right time.

880
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 4: You're fishing.

881
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: You're very fishing in the right time. I know how

882
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 3: to do camp. After forty five, take me along.

883
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 2: And if let me ask let me ask us a question.

884
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: Do you worry about brain damage long term? You sound great,

885
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: but I'm saying in ten years fift yes, yes.

886
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 3: I always worry about that for everybody in my gym.

887
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: I don't like heart sparring. You know, I never my

888
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: all my students, they can never spar without me over there.

889
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: I'm always got to be there unless the fight team.

890
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 3: The fight team of course different the professional fighters, and

891
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: somebody is there. But like we all know, that's the

892
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: main thing that I see, because the main a concern

893
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: about the brain damage. We already know. We did this

894
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 3: big talk a while back, right twenty fourteen, he's from

895
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 3: training for training for a fight. Really, I mean, you

896
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: take a guess, just engage and what's his He was

897
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: there you Michael Challenge, Yeah, Michael Challe. He was there

898
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: to take that fight. But it's the twenty five minutes

899
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 3: with the little gloves, and they got knocked down a

900
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: couple of times. But uh, you look at guys, I

901
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 3: just engage you, right, you kind of I don't never

902
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 3: see him training training here, and you kind of think, like,

903
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 3: is this guy go hard a spar and he probably

904
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: just put his face out there and s far like that.

905
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 3: That's the dangers, you know. I don't know. I'm not

906
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: here saying I don't know. But the training I think

907
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 3: is the biggest importance on the on the brain damage stuff.

908
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 3: Of course can happen if I to you know, everything

909
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: can happens there, man, But I trained very very careful,

910
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 3: very well. We don't need to go crazy. We just

911
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 3: need that cardio op. Man. Get those guys faces working.

912
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: I mean, you know they can't breathe anymore, man telling

913
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: him they start freaking out.

914
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: Let's talk about eurie prodska.

915
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 4: So he's uh, he's dangerous as he's dangerous.

916
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: I mean, here's what you say about eerie, right, athletic, strong,

917
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: very talented, but he's weird as shit, and he's totally unorthodox.

918
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: He's got this absolutely bizarre out. Yeah, but his chin

919
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: out and he throws, weird h strikes like you know,

920
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: spinning back kick into Superman, punching into all the assess

921
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: him from your standpoint, what do you What do you

922
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: believe is the major challenge for you?

923
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 3: Is that you know, is there is that his style

924
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 3: or to see the movement that do we walk a

925
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 3: lot of my eyes? I have a good people walk

926
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 3: with that you can see in my last few fights.

927
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 3: Uh do we? I'm roaming with the punch is bad,

928
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 3: you know, and not getting a hit like like before

929
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 3: before just walk straight and keep going, but now moving

930
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 3: and moving a little boy walk in my eyes and

931
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 3: walking the timing for him the main thing. But I

932
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: look at the fight a little bit. I look his

933
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: fight and I see, like I say, I see the

934
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 3: openings he does when he strike, he leaves the opening

935
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 3: for some positions, and you know, that's the main thing

936
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 3: that I think the most difficult thing to deal with

937
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 3: is probably like this style. But when you come, when

938
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 3: you patient and you see everything that's the core about

939
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 3: martial artist. How to adapt it to this style? You know?

940
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: Am I adapted to that style?

941
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 4: Oh he's going to take him Downtown's right down to

942
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 4: the ground.

943
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: But do you know that's the thing. He knows that.

944
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: But that's the thing, like when do you how much?

945
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 3: How much is gonna worry about it? And that's when

946
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 3: the left hook came in. That they will you know,

947
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: the right hand and uh, I mean Blovich in a

948
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 3: second round day he started defending the takedown Sumat and

949
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 3: I and the left will come in. Now He's like,

950
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: oh shit, I got a worry about the sponses chew.

951
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 3: So those guys forget about it. They forget that I

952
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: have hands too, and they're heavy. You That's what I think.

953
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: You rebuilt yourself to be more dangerous or maybe more effecial.

954
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: I always have the power and not call power. Now

955
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 3: I have more like patient, like.

956
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 2: It feels like now also you like you know how

957
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: Demi and Maya for a while just went to a

958
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 2: striking kind of forgot about his jiu jitsu and that

959
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 2: he went all the way back to I'm saying, you

960
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: mix it more. But I do feel like your jiu

961
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: jitsu has been a much more forward part of your

962
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 2: game the last few years. Striking of course, striking of course,

963
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 2: but the Anthony Smith fight, for example, right or again

964
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 2: the Thiago Santo's fight, Like there's a lot of fights

965
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: where like that was the difference maker was the jiu jitsu.

966
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, A lot of the guys don't like to train

967
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 3: jiu jitsu. You know what I'm gonna do. They don't

968
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 3: like to chraine you jitsu. They don't like to train wrestling,

969
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: so they get tired, and they don't like to train

970
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 3: jiu jitsu because it's is a is a is a

971
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: hard sport there, so they get tired. And I do.

972
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 3: I like to train jiu jitsu. I trained with those

973
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 3: twenty years old guys they try and I have Kyle Migallians.

974
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 3: Those guys are Kaile Macallis is one of the best

975
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 3: jiu jitsu former UFC fighter, and his jiu jitsu is

976
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 3: high level, you know. And I'm telling you one of

977
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 3: the I tell you top to one of jiu jitsu

978
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 3: guys in the world right now. I'm talking about getting

979
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: him over there with those those big names you know

980
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 3: a gym these days, uh, the amateurs, you know, but

981
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 3: Perrera well into Yeah, Kaile Magallians is my main and

982
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: I have a two boxers. This one is Finale Junior,

983
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 3: his professional boxer. Have youweight my coach son. The one

984
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 3: also my coach. So, eighteen years old heavyweight amateur boxer

985
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 3: is gonna go pro, but those guys may help me

986
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 3: for my last few fights.

987
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: Being a masa with you.

988
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,959
Speaker 3: Sabina Maso. She she she was there for the last

989
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 3: fight and she'll come back. She says, she's gonna move

990
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 3: to connectic Ah.

991
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: Okay, pro California. I go where she is.

992
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 3: She's in California, She's gonna she's we're looking for a

993
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: place for her. She's gonna move to.

994
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 2: Are you looking like Okay, you're obviously still looking to fight,

995
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: no doubt about it. But do you feel like you'll

996
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 2: have a role as a coach for a long time

997
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 2: when it's all said and done.

998
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my thing. Yeah, sure, Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah.

999
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 3: I put something over there, even though though I don't

1000
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: mind that sca I actually like outside. But uh, this

1001
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 3: is my passion. This is what I wanted to do,

1002
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 3: and I'm good at it and I am gonna Yeah,

1003
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 3: the coaching is definitely the next chapter.

1004
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 2: I have to say. One thing as a media guy

1005
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: covering her career that's just been so refreshing, to be

1006
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 2: honest with you, is I never have to worry about

1007
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: Glover to share. You know, Glover to share. Pulled over

1008
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 2: for drunk driving, Nope, never gonna happen. Glover to share.

1009
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: All you hear glovers mean to the young people in

1010
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: the gym, like you know, you hear about certain fighters

1011
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: and beat up young dude. I've never heard a single

1012
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 2: and you know, this industry it's full of snakes. I've

1013
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: never heard one person say a bad word about you.

1014
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: It's kind of remarkable, I have to tell you.

1015
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, this is like, uh something that

1016
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 3: is just being like it's not what I say. Uh,

1017
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 3: it's not credit, right, It's just the way we should

1018
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 3: all be, you know what I mean. It's not like

1019
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 3: people people have to mention that a couple of times,

1020
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 3: like they give me credit for them, but just not credit.

1021
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 3: It's like normal, Yeah, this is normal. This is just

1022
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 3: being a decent cities. You know what is so decent?

1023
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 2: What is so great about Connecticut?

1024
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 4: I don't really like Connetic connect again, let's do that.

1025
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan of I don't hate Connecticut,

1026
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: but Hartford kind.

1027
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 3: Of laying okay to the city, you know, Like I

1028
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 3: like the country, man, I like the trees, the beautiful trees.

1029
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 3: Money is good, you know.

1030
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the thing. You come from Brazil. Now, maybe

1031
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: I'm stereotyping, but I always think of like the Brazilian guys.

1032
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 2: They all end up in southern California. Half of them surf,

1033
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: the other half are in Florida, Connecticut.

1034
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 4: You don't know about that Danbury Brazil connection.

1035
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: I guess I don't Brazilian.

1036
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm from a country in Brazil farm work, so

1037
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 3: and I from a lot of farm work. No, no

1038
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 3: surfing for me. No, you know, it's not going to

1039
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 3: go to Florida, California, and they over here they have

1040
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 3: a lot of landscaping, a lot of landscaping, company, carpenter,

1041
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 3: so a lot of jobs. And I already knew people

1042
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 3: from my hometown there. It was there in Connecticut. I

1043
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 3: come to Connecticut, you know, got married, I watched California.

1044
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: I love California and my favorite place Saint Louis Obispool.

1045
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: That's beautiful. But then I went to Brazil. You know,

1046
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 3: my wife come over here, and then I come back.

1047
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 3: I was doing my fights, doing camp to find the

1048
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 3: way I was. I did a camp in California, black

1049
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 3: House for Rumpage. I did it for mal Donado Dare

1050
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 3: and I did it a camp in Florida, you know.

1051
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 3: Then then I was like, after John Jones fight, I

1052
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 3: did the last camp in Florida, John Jones. After Jones fight,

1053
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 3: I opened my gym. I opened my gym. I say,

1054
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 3: you know what, thirty four years old, I've been all

1055
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 3: over the world. I've been everywhere everywhere. Been in America,

1056
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 3: Pitio Arts School, you know, train over there. I trained

1057
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: with like uh, you know, we name me, go to Brazil,

1058
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 3: many so many in Holland. We drove around Holland, trained

1059
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 3: with Pedro Juze and Minotaud and you name me? Do

1060
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: you name me? Those old school and I trained with.

1061
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 3: And I say, I'm gonna open my gym. I asked

1062
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 3: Finale if you and I opened the gym in Connecticut.

1063
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 3: First was just a gym, just like a garage, I

1064
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 3: mean to train.

1065
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 4: And Finale was a pro boxer and he was your

1066
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 4: boxing coach.

1067
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, pro boxer from Connecticut. And he retired. And

1068
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 3: then I asked him if he wants to coach me.

1069
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 3: He said, I don't know anything about him. Maybe I say,

1070
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 3: he just coach me boxing. I'll get a guys for

1071
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 3: wrestling and I just actually bring the guys from Brazil

1072
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: like a Kingimo went from one of the kids. I

1073
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 3: started bringing guys and I have a lot of fla

1074
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 3: Like I said, I have a lot of connection. I say,

1075
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 3: I have all the connections. I can call people and

1076
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 3: they can you know, I know all the people. Yeah,

1077
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 3: so I know the first start coming. Then later on

1078
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 3: key people start coming to the gym. Like right now,

1079
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 3: I don't have to bring anything to anybody anymore. Part

1080
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 3: you know, those kids grow up, like I started with

1081
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: the kid. Now he's eighteen years old, but way I

1082
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 3: post called finale to train me, he was you know

1083
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 3: well I actually forced to run after finale. His mom

1084
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 3: was pregnant for him. And now he's yeah, here's a

1085
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 3: he's a he's a prop. He's gonna be pro box.

1086
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 3: He's eighteen years old. I met, I met a finale

1087
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 3: when his mom was pregnant.

1088
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 2: We're old.

1089
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 3: Now this kid's kicking my ass.

1090
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 4: So so Glover.

1091
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: I grew up not far from from the Danbury area

1092
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: in Naugatuck, Connecticut, and this guy's I'm always acting like

1093
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: it is man.

1094
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 4: That ship's just you know, we're tough there, you.

1095
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, working we're tough as ship washing Lover,

1096
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 1: could you speak to him about about where I come from.

1097
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: Glover doesn't have to prove to me that he's tough,

1098
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: but you are the one. I have a question.

1099
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 4: I come from the hard scrabble. Okay, you can prove that.

1100
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: You've been what was tougher Connecticut or Brazil in terms of.

1101
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 3: Like you know, No, Connecticut is definitely tough. Yeah, there's

1102
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 3: both different ways. Brazil, for me it is you know,

1103
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 3: it's it's stuff to get money, to get things right.

1104
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 3: Definitely in the United States, you don't have the connectic

1105
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 3: just stuff.

1106
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 4: Like the cold, bro brutal.

1107
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 3: They spring you. You think, oh, nice day and tomorrow's

1108
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: rain and it's windy. But hey, man, you know I

1109
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 3: bought ice Beat. Now I go in ice Beat every

1110
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 3: day and don't matter how it is outside, I just

1111
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 3: go in. Now.

1112
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 2: Didn't Danbury, the city of Danbury, didn't they make a

1113
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 2: Glover to share a day?

1114
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 4: You got a key to the city city.

1115
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 3: I have the They did a good prey. They I

1116
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 3: have the key for the city. Was amazing.

1117
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 2: I have to feel like, wow, man, that's like a

1118
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 2: real like the community really embraced you.

1119
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, community is like, uh, everywhere I go, do your.

1120
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 2: Neighbors know your maniac?

1121
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 3: Like?

1122
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 2: Do your neighbors know that the people for a living?

1123
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 3: Yeah? Have the kids that come to that club look

1124
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 3: at this. I longed this move and they like.

1125
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: They show you all. Yeah, like me and Brian basically.

1126
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Glove, you were mentioning all the badasses of Brazil

1127
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 1: that you trained with.

1128
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 3: We name them.

1129
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 4: You've trained with him.

1130
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: I know you trained with Marco, who was and I

1131
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: don't think enough people talk about these days. That guy's

1132
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: a fucking badass.

1133
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: What was that?

1134
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: Like?

1135
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 3: I think he should be a Hall of Fame. I

1136
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 3: agree if he's not champion, but I think he was

1137
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 3: supposed to be all ready if you think about it,

1138
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 3: because you know he's the streets champion UFC seven.

1139
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you won a tournament.

1140
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 3: He is such a great guy and uh and man

1141
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 3: menthology of a fighter and he is a fighter. Man.

1142
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 3: He is like a crazy he's crazy Marco who is crazy?

1143
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: Man?

1144
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 3: He's like he used to get like, uh, you know,

1145
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 3: telling his stories. You gotta say, every time I sit

1146
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 3: next to him, I want to hear his store is

1147
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 3: you know, because back then in Brazil they used to

1148
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 3: go to gym's gyms like Hicks and Racy or the

1149
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 3: Chance say yeah, they go to the gym and they

1150
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 3: shot and then in the beach, you know, and then

1151
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 3: he say, I guess see, somebody was telling me these

1152
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 3: guys is I wanted to fight you to post to

1153
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 3: post you know, the Copacabana, the beach, all the beach

1154
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,919
Speaker 3: in Brazil. They have the posts, you know, the guard

1155
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 3: the guard life post. They have the numbers thirteen, twelve,

1156
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 3: you know eleven. He's like post eleven. You know, he's

1157
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 3: gonna wait for you. He's like, I'm going over the

1158
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 3: day taking shut off over there. It was a bunch

1159
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 3: of guys there. He's like, hey, say you want to

1160
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 3: fight me, Let's do it right now, and to throw

1161
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 3: his handles out there. It was him by himself. Was

1162
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: a bunch of guys, but they didn't end up in

1163
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 3: the fight.

1164
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: You know. Okay, what I want to talk about Brazilian

1165
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: savagery because it's you know, Brazil's fighters have such a

1166
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: great representative reputation for.

1167
00:58:58,480 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 4: Skill, but obviously toughness.

1168
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, is there within the the gorillas, I mean within

1169
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: the the all time great tough men MMA champions that

1170
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: come from Brazil, is there a hierarchy and just being

1171
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: a badass, like.

1172
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 4: Like you know, there's there's the Nogaran Brothers, there's vonder Lay.

1173
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 4: But in the in the in that resilient team, do

1174
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 4: they consider one one guy?

1175
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 2: Hudu Brazilian fighters considered to be the most badass Brazilian

1176
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 2: fighters probably like.

1177
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 3: Mino Tauu because of his uh, you know, it's difficult

1178
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 3: to say so many, it's so many, you know, but uh,

1179
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 3: you know Toad is the most likeable one because all

1180
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 3: the people look up to him, you know, because he's

1181
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 3: just now he's ambassador of Brazil. He worked for UFC Brazil,

1182
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 3: right he does every time guys is like incredible, and uh,

1183
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 3: I think it's him that they all the young fighters

1184
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 3: they look up more. If he's if you asked like

1185
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 3: one legend, is it gonna say him? But so like

1186
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 3: you say so many, you know, Michael who underlay all

1187
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 3: those guys are you know incredible man? Yeah, incredible me.

1188
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 3: It's not just for me really, it's like all the

1189
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 3: fighters that I see, you know, they they love him.

1190
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: You know somebody you think about little Knock.

1191
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm in He was an elite fighter for sure, absolutely

1192
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: do you think you get.

1193
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 4: The love in Brazil?

1194
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: Do you get how are you in Brazil? You know?

1195
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 4: I mean there's a lot of.

1196
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: Favorite champions from Brazil, like I mentioned, I just named

1197
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: a few of them. I mean there's Jose Al though,

1198
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: there's so many friking but you're one of them. Now,

1199
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:36,919
Speaker 1: do you get that love?

1200
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 3: Do you feel? Yeah? I feel like uh a lot

1201
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 3: of people. Man, yeah, they they very you know, not

1202
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 3: not that Peppillari like Anderson Silva you know all those

1203
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 3: guys have because they have different level. Yeah, but like myself,

1204
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 3: I feel the love. You know, I've enjoyed the way

1205
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 3: it is. Like I say, man, he's too I'm kind

1206
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 3: of like a stall and I enjoyed myself too much.

1207
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 3: You know. I'm not the kind of guy there like

1208
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: to call the attention and go and you walk around

1209
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 3: the mall with my belt so people take take a picture,

1210
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,959
Speaker 3: you know, how more the the guy that's gonna hide

1211
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 3: and walk in the pass.

1212
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: Do you know what you said? I forget what media

1213
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 2: day it was, and I was like, I was just

1214
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 2: trying to find something to talk to you about. And

1215
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 2: I asked you, like at a party, everyone's got a role,

1216
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 2: like someone's dancing on the floor. Someone's the guy who's

1217
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 2: like helping everyone get their drinks. And I was like, right,

1218
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 2: someone's the DJ. And I asked you. I was like,

1219
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: who are you at the party? Do you remember this conversation? Probably?

1220
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 2: And you said to me, you go, I'm the guy

1221
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 2: who's drinking whiskey telling stories. That's who you said you were,

1222
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 2: So tell us the story.

1223
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 3: What's up? It's hard. Well, there's the whiskey. I don't

1224
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 3: know if we have any with you next time. Yeah,

1225
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 3: we just talk a bunch of you know, the crazy stuff, man,

1226
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 3: but you know it's in drinking and it's just the situation.

1227
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 3: And you say something, I remember something when Chuck did

1228
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 3: this for me to come up with something funny or something.

1229
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 3: It's very it's not my thing, but like, yeah, I'm like,

1230
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 3: talk about the stories. Uh, we have so much you know, funny,

1231
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 3: cool stuff that happens in a gym.

1232
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 2: My producer wants me to know you're in camp. So

1233
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're gonna say, no, they do have whiskey.

1234
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 4: No, no, Like we'll call them out, test them.

1235
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 3: They starty.

1236
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 2: Next time oha sell you what after you win and

1237
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: defend your belt, come back here, we'll have some whiskey.

1238
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely, definitely I'm talking about So we got Brazilian

1239
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: nuts on the table, not just because the Brazilian champion

1240
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: is here, but people on our staff sometimes accused some

1241
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: of these weirdos behind the cameras of having low tea,

1242
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,919
Speaker 1: low testosterone, you know, like maybe they're not manly enough.

1243
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,919
Speaker 4: They said, if you eat more Brazilian nuts, your testosterone

1244
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 4: levels just rise. I don't think I'm gonna start. I'm

1245
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 4: gonna be all lover that ship. That's true, Glover.

1246
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I don't know, you know what, but those

1247
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 3: are good they call our it's from the para from

1248
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 3: Leo to to state Amazonas.

1249
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 4: That's a good U overdose on those, all right, I'm

1250
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 4: gonna bring in so much. I'm gonna be like twenty

1251
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 4: thirteen feet.

1252
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 3: Too much of those, man, because of that. Yeah, I

1253
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 3: don't know, you know, you.

1254
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: Could you could pop dirty if you eat too many

1255
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: of those. All right, that's grow a third ball, That's

1256
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Yeah, oh yeah, Glover, do you

1257
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: ever look back and wonder if you had gone just

1258
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: the boxing path where you would have ended up?

1259
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 3: No, not really, man, probably like uh No, I don't know.

1260
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: It's just I don't think of those things, you know.

1261
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, more like what it's one of those things

1262
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 3: like can you imagine if you leave or go back

1263
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 3: and you can just keep going back to the past

1264
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 3: and think another path? Right? Taking on the path you know,

1265
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 3: I take an end of the day, don't matter, or

1266
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 3: if I take if I could go back, right, let's

1267
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 3: make a movie, right, I could go back in two

1268
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 3: thousand and two or even ninety nine before I come

1269
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 3: here and take a different path in my life. You know,

1270
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 3: go what your way.

1271
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 2: I go.

1272
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 3: Anyway, I'll be here photo two years old. Uh maybe

1273
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 3: not the champion, maybe something else, maybe an actor, maybe

1274
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,439
Speaker 3: a farmer, maybe something, you know, whatever, with the same

1275
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 3: state of mind. You know, it's the same feeling, it

1276
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 3: the same gratitude with the world, you know, because who

1277
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 3: you are in sight, they have not that you do

1278
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 3: what you doing outside. I think this guy's just sweating class.

1279
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it's true, it's true. But at least to

1280
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 2: the question, obviously, you want to win your next fight.

1281
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not asking that, but I am asking

1282
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 2: is there any big goal that you haven't done yet

1283
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: in your career big one the things that really matter

1284
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 2: because you got the belt. Yeah, you've headlined on pay

1285
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 2: per view.

1286
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 3: I like to fight, uh, you know, fighting uh in

1287
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 3: Las Vegas was one, and it was the first one

1288
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 3: because I wanted to fight in Vegas so bad because

1289
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 3: I think Vegas is the colors them the new college

1290
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 3: color sim right of uh yeah, the new the new generation,

1291
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 3: you know. And I thought there and one of my

1292
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 3: it's like be fighting over here in New York, New

1293
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 3: York City, Madison s care Garden. Well you because I

1294
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 3: haven't fought the arena. Yeah, and because it's so close

1295
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 3: to Connecticut, and.

1296
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 4: Hey, what are you doing in November? We can we

1297
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 4: might be able to make this happen. Just keep winning,

1298
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 4: you know.

1299
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: You know, uh, you're the best two hundred and five

1300
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: pound fighter in the world to many people.

1301
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 4: But there's one guy, Corey Anderson, who's not a believer

1302
01:05:59,000 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 4: on that same les.

1303
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1304
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 4: What do you like when you hear that?

1305
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 3: What do you what do you feel? I say it before,

1306
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 3: I think I was a reporter that told me about this.

1307
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't know, I didn't see I don't

1308
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 3: really look the Instagram too much. Especially trash talking man quardy.

1309
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 3: Actually he called. He text me, uh before I say,

1310
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 3: he wants to go train with me, and I say, yeah, man,

1311
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 3: you know, come down with the train, get ready to

1312
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 3: help you get ready for a fight. And then in

1313
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 3: a fight. I heard his talking all this, but I

1314
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 3: see the you know, man did the position right, he

1315
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 3: beat me and uh times changed, Bro, you you lost

1316
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 3: your fight. You know, he got knocked up by the

1317
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 3: guy I take the tide away, you know. Uh, and

1318
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 3: he got fired from the company and now he's in

1319
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 3: another company and he's doing better. But uh, hey, I'm

1320
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 3: not It's not me trying to say he's in another company. Bro,

1321
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 3: is not in UFC. If you was in UFC, number second,

1322
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 3: number two in the world, oh number one, I'll fight him, right,

1323
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 3: But he's not. He's a belloto. So he's talking about

1324
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 3: it because he wants the attention. But uh, I don't

1325
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 3: know you think I'm gonna give him the attention.

1326
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 4: I did you know you had a great question I did.

1327
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 3: I say, hey, man, if you if you that fight happens,

1328
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 3: I'll be happy to do it. I fight anyone, you know,

1329
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 3: if that fight happened. They want to want to fight

1330
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 3: a titles, Hey, let's do it.

1331
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,919
Speaker 1: But didn't you say over here say something like I'd

1332
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: rather watch like a cat piss than watch him fight

1333
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: or something like that. You have?

1334
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 4: You have?

1335
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 2: Is that a Brazilian thing?

1336
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 3: Board? I say, I rather watch the board singer take.

1337
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 4: The stay out of yours was much nicer than mine. Yeah,

1338
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 4: board sing?

1339
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah? Because then looking Instagram and and pay attention to

1340
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 3: call he talking ship? You know what I mean? All right?

1341
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 4: When when they make a when you say, when it's

1342
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 4: all said and.

1343
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 1: Done one day and they make a you know, career

1344
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: highlight of of what you've done in mixed martial arts,

1345
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: what's going to be the opening scene of it?

1346
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 4: What's what's the you know, has that fight happened yet?

1347
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: Or what's what's the moment that's gonna be the the

1348
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 1: that's gonna lead off that video?

1349
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 4: What's the number one moment?

1350
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 3: Well, what do you mean the highlight?

1351
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 1: Maybe the feeling of winning the championship. I mean, what

1352
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,560
Speaker 1: part of your career do you do? You think it

1353
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 1: first and foremost that moment above all else.

1354
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, uh, you know, have my arm raised

1355
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 3: over there and uh abou dabi you know, uh call

1356
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 3: me come to answer that question and see how that feel.

1357
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 3: And it's like waiting for so long and uh, for

1358
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 3: so many years you just think like what would I

1359
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 3: say and that question you say, mate. It's kind of

1360
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 3: funny because uh, I always think they you know, every

1361
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 3: time somebody willing in a championship, I always sit back

1362
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 3: and the next day, like, let's say, every time I

1363
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 3: watch fights, right, I watched it fights travel o'clock at night,

1364
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,679
Speaker 3: one in the morning over here for us in Connectic,

1365
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 3: you know, and then I went to I go to

1366
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 3: sleep in the morning, Sunday morning, wake up, and I

1367
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 3: always think how that guy's feel today, Like when Charlie

1368
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 3: is a Bronci is one when the rolls you want

1369
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 3: the belt, you know, I say, how shoot future day?

1370
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 3: You know, today must be the best day of life.

1371
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 3: And there was man like I was explained. I saw

1372
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 3: the sun rise, you know, and I want to take

1373
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 3: a napple little people. Then I went to the be

1374
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 3: to the pool and I just stayed in the pool. Man.

1375
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 3: It was just like drinking some magarita and just like

1376
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 3: trying to think in you know, and it was it

1377
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 3: was kind of weird because it was like it was

1378
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 3: like I feel really good and like, but every time

1379
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 3: then people say, hey, Champ, you champing the war man,

1380
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 3: I was like, and.

1381
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 2: They're gonna call you the rest of your life you'll

1382
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 2: get that's that's like, that's like being a doctor. You're

1383
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 2: just a doctor. Well let's get this or whatever.

1384
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 4: But what's up, Champ.

1385
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: That's that's your future right there, and it's well deserved

1386
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: and it's well earned.

1387
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 4: And it's funny, you know, he said to you, what

1388
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 4: other goals are left?

1389
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 2: Do you?

1390
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,879
Speaker 1: Does your vision of the rest of your career include

1391
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: multiple title defenses walking away on top?

1392
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 4: Do you have any sort of concept of how how

1393
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 4: it ends?

1394
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 3: I try to enjoy what's happening right now and uh

1395
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,759
Speaker 3: and and keep it going man, and keep it defending

1396
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 3: of course to see what up. But to be honest,

1397
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 3: I don't have the they that go or sae like.

1398
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 3: I just want to enjoy this moment, you know, and

1399
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 3: uh and keep you feel like I did it for

1400
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 3: the fight, you know. Uh. When almost there, the by

1401
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 3: keep saying this in view, I say, may I already

1402
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 3: feel like a champion to be here. I'm glad to

1403
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 3: be here the second time, forty two years old, try

1404
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 3: again and I'm gonna try, and I'm gonna keep trying.

1405
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 3: But I am enjoying this moment no matter what happened tonight.

1406
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 3: You know, man, I am a champion for a week

1407
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 3: because they treat my like they treat me like a champion.

1408
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,640
Speaker 3: For the first day, I got an Abu Dhabi and

1409
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 3: I told my wife, I say, hey, if I lose

1410
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 3: this fights and I at least I know how to

1411
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 3: be how I was the feeling to be a champion

1412
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 3: right week because those guys treat me like a champion.

1413
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 3: And I was a champion for a week here.

1414
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: But you know, we want to treat you like a

1415
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 1: champion and a thing. Where's the crown for the King

1416
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 1: of Connecticut.

1417
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 2: So here's the deal, Glover. We have a bit going

1418
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 2: on the show where when we first started doing it,

1419
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 2: there's you, there's Brian Campbell, and then there's this rapper

1420
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 2: named Apathy. He's from Connecticut as well, and we couldn't

1421
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: decide who the king of Connecticut was. This is before

1422
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 2: you were champion, but then you won, and then me

1423
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 2: and Brian decided wait a second, Danbury is celebrating this guy.

1424
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 2: He's now got the title of for to share, I

1425
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,440
Speaker 2: don't know if you know this, but we have decided

1426
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 2: that you are the official King of Connecticut, and every

1427
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 2: king deserves a crown.

1428
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, okay, there is I'll pronounce you king, Yes,

1429
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: there is. So now I'm the Viceroy of Connecticut.

1430
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 2: Apparently yes, So, until you either surrender the title or

1431
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 2: lose it, you're the king of Connecticut. He is the

1432
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 2: clown prince or whatever you want.

1433
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: There it is. The chimp is here and you're going

1434
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: to face Yeri Prahotska Singapore.

1435
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, UFC two seventy five.

1436
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 3: I'm excited, defense ready, I'm excited for the with the train.

1437
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 3: I'm excited with everything that is. What's going on. Well,

1438
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 3: we wish you the.

1439
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 1: Best of luck here in your backstory, man, I'll give

1440
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: you a lot of respect.

1441
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 2: You know, no one can say anything other than everything

1442
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 2: you've got. You've earned times ten. So congratulations and everything.

1443
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 2: Thank you for spending time with us, and you know,

1444
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: when you win, come back here as the camp. We'll

1445
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 2: do some shots which the boy.

1446
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, we gotta you guys, gonna hear some funny stories.

1447
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 4: The king is out. He has left the building,