1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: Archbishop Ronald file Enwright is a chief exorcist with extensive 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: experience spanning at least forty six years, and throughout his 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: ministry he has conducted thousands of exorcism rituals, including case 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: assessments for demonic infestation and possession. He has been privileged 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: to serve as the founder of the Order of Exorcists, 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: which is an international organization with members in twenty four countries. 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: Members include a diverse group of professionals including priests, bishops, 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 2: lead assessment team, investigators, counseling psychiatrists as well. His latest book, 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: as I mentioned, is called Diabolical Nightmares of Real Cases 12 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: and Demonic Possession Told by the Exorcists. Horrifying realities do 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: exist in dark places. That's scary stuff. Archbishop bron welcome 14 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: back you, thank you to tell I'm doing fine. How 15 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: about yourself. 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: I've been pretty busy lately, considering I kind of call 17 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: myself retired, but that's not really the case. People cannot 18 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 3: for submaries. You cannot lose my phone number. People are 19 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: constantly contacting me, and I'm constantly visiting. So even though 20 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: I'm in the somewhat semi retired position, I am still 21 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 3: so busy. You wouldn't play it. 22 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you to get closer to your 23 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: microphone because you sound like you're in a ten can. 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: Okay, I can assure you I'm not not can, But 25 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: I'm right here. Can you hear the better? 26 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: A little better? 27 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: A little better? 28 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: So we'll keep our fingers crossed and hope the demons 29 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: aren't trying to keep you away from us. 30 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: This is a very very good possibility. You know, it 31 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: does happen, especially when we're dealing with electronics and all 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: this model technology. You know, yeah, it's it's pretty interesting. 33 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: How did you become interested in exorcisms? 34 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: You know, it all happened. It was a supernatural event 35 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 3: that occurred when I was eleven years old and I 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: was in the bathroom and taking a shower, and this 37 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 3: super bright light just illuminated the tiner bathroom takes to 38 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 3: the bathroom window, and it was so bright I had 39 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: to shit my eyes. As I did, I saw myself 40 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: in the future. And keep in mind, I'm only eleven 41 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: years old, I saw myself in the future where a 42 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: Roman collar and serving the church in so capacity. And 43 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: then at that swift second I opened my eyes, I 44 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: could just see the bakers just leave the bathroom, and 45 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: it just simply dissipated. And ever since then, I've been 46 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: very much aware of the supernatural thing that I've had, and 47 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: it's like a new perspective. I just I kind of 48 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: like a sense of the reality of what's going on on. 49 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: Did you come into this kicking and screaming or was 50 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: it really truly voluntary on your part? 51 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 3: I consider it a divine calling. I believe that God 52 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: had communicated with me athough eleven years old. I was 53 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 3: apparently very open to whatever God had to say. I'm 54 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: right there and ready to listen and obeyed. And since 55 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 3: that time, throughout my life, I've started experiencing all types 56 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 3: of really interesting things, that is, things that would be 57 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: classified as unbelievable and pretty scary. 58 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: Do you do you see demons outside the physical body 59 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: or not? 60 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: I do? I actually do. In fact, most of my 61 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: ministry has been spent in the skin real areas of 62 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: downtown Los Angeles, and most of the time I'm be 63 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: either the owner of the management of these skin Groll 64 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: hotels with contact and they would ask if I could 65 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: do some fall up assessment and see what's going on. 66 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: And so as a result, and this started, like it 67 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: was very early nineteen eighty and so we started making 68 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: these calls and making assessments and it just took up 69 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 3: from there. You have to understand that most people that 70 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: live in the skin Groll hotels Daylight fall under, you know, 71 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: the category of being desperate. Perhaps maybe they're down on 72 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 3: no luck. They might have substance abuse problems, maybe even 73 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: issues with like you know, law enforcement, and so crime 74 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: is always there, and then they're very suicidal. You have overdoses, 75 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: you have all kinds of things, which means that there's 76 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 3: a spiritual resisional that's left in that structure. So when 77 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 3: that happens, supernatural things take place that as you know, 78 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 3: walls start banging, people can square that they here whispering, 79 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: and these are just like one or two floors. There 80 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 3: have one hotel in Skinbroe in downtown Los Angeles. It 81 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 3: has fourteen stories, and this type of activity occurs and 82 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: has been occurred occurred ever since nineteen twenties. So I 83 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 3: mean this is an old hotel, and you have all 84 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: these spiritual residuals where people who have who have committed 85 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: suicide jumped off the fourteenth floor and so on. And 86 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 3: it's so interesting because throughout the entire hotel it's only 87 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: the fourteenth floor that has all these disturbanceies. 88 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: What does a demon look like? Archbishop my? 89 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 3: And it's so funny because I when I see them, 90 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: they don't change. They have the same image. What I 91 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 3: see is a great long face, and they're always wearing 92 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: when it appears to be a foot. And as a result, 93 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: I've seen them, and I tell people listening crazy but 94 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: and I have to psychia consumer in our organization for it. 95 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 3: I'm not crazy, but these things actually exist. So as 96 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 3: a result, I have seen them. I've seen them in 97 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: especially in hotels where they're in a bonified demonic infestation 98 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: where everything, the whole structure is being founded by these 99 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: multiple demonic entities. And the people in these hotels, they 100 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: are living on the lowest level of life that you 101 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: could even imagine. A lot of them are just suffering 102 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: socially and they have a their social uh uh, you know, problems. 103 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 3: But as a result, you know, they're they're living there. 104 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: It's the only place and the next step of being problems. 105 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: You know, they're in that hotel and that's that's their structure, 106 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: and as a result, they have to experience all the 107 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 3: residuals that have taken place of the past, and that 108 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: will go for everything from suicide to demonic possession uh 109 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: to uh things of this nature. Because it's very very uh, 110 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: it's very alone in the sable tease. 111 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: How many people who are possessed are considered mentally ill 112 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: and they're really possessed. 113 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: It's possible. It's very possible that they could have both. 114 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: They could have a psyche closis and still be possessed 115 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: by demonic anticy. Then the reason what we do when 116 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: we do our assessment, we do not only record everything 117 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: and we have a questionnaire and that that we direct 118 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: a victim and family members, but we also uh we 119 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: also ask for a psychological report which they referge and 120 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: then once they burn us the psychological report from their doctors, 121 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: we will relate it to our psychiatrists and they will 122 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: review the actual reports and if it's something that that 123 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 3: that needs our attention or or or there's nothing at all, 124 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: they will let us know if it's a normal type 125 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: of scenario or if it's something that's really uh really 126 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: telling in regards to some form of psychosists that they 127 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:34,479 Speaker 3: would alert us. But understand, there are certain things that 128 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 3: that mental illness uh will not uh will not show. 129 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 3: For example, mental illness can mimic possession, and possession can 130 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 3: mimic memal illness. Seeming as a red fine line there. 131 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: But when you see the victim levitate, when you see 132 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: the victim in an environment where things are flying around 133 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 3: and uh and and everything is defined blows and gravity, 134 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: then you have to understand that this is not a psychosis. Right. 135 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 3: We are dealing with something simple, natural and as a result, 136 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 3: you know, we have we have to be on our 137 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: televist and document everything and make sure we have the 138 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 3: proper support system in place. We normally have some medical 139 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: prictitioner who's with our assessment team, and that's either a 140 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: practical nervous sort of LVN or something like this where 141 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 3: we have someone who is medically trained in the event 142 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: as we're doing the evaluations. And by the way, I'm 143 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: not involved with the evaluations. I oversee the evaluations by 144 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: examining them and making a final decision based on our site, 145 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: a psychiatrist, the reputations, So I don't make a decision 146 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: until we have all the paperwork here, so I understand 147 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: I'm not faling on site when the first contact interview 148 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: is made. We rely on our landing and sometimes we 149 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: do have a clergy member who who wants to join 150 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: in on the necessity. But what they do basically is 151 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 3: they not only interview the victims that they also get 152 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: the input from the family members and even the neighbors 153 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: in regards to what's happening. And then at that point 154 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: there's always someone in these days, everyone has a I phone, 155 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 3: so everyone has a recorder, so everyone that's on the team, 156 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 3: they're literally not only focusing on the victim, but they're 157 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: also looking for outward manifestations that are around it, always 158 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 3: in the house or within whatever structure it is. And 159 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: if there is some type of physical movement where we 160 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: can actually see something going on, and that's considered proof 161 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 3: that we have to further investigate. Now we do that way, 162 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: investigating not only individual, but we also investigate the property, 163 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: investigate the house. We see if there's any history, anything 164 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: that may have occurred. It's interesting there have been quite 165 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 3: a few residents where we have found that there were 166 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: human sacrifices made, and we were talking about, you know, 167 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: one hundred years ago or so, and as a result, 168 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 3: the residual is still in the structure, which means that 169 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 3: you have, you know, an ideal situation for a demonic infestation. 170 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 171 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam 172 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: dot com for more