1 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: What do you believe about media? No, no, let's we'll 2 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: get to our media in a second. But media in general, 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: I mean, what is media? Media is simply transmitting information, 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: isn't it. And so I want you to picture this situation. 5 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: I want you to picture you and me. We live 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: in a little village somewhere up in the mountains. They 7 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: were not in a country. It's just our own little 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: village up in the mountain. There's only about one hundred 9 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: of us. We lived there. And there was one guy 10 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 1: in charge of gathering information from other tribes and from 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: other people in our tribe and making sure he gets 12 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: a big announce It gives a big announcement every day 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: that the whole tribe, so we all know what's going on. 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: I mean, I would want to know, is this tribe 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: really mad at us? They got some bows and arrows, 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: they're coming to kill us all. Oh, this tribe says 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: that it looks like there's about to be a flood everyone. 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: I would want to know that information would be important, Right, 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: there's a murderer on the lucer in our tribe. But 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: we need to know information. You need information. I need information, 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: So please, tribe media guy, give it to me. But 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: I want you to picture this. What if the guy 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: in charge of handling that information and disseminating that information, 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: what if he hated you, and hated your tribe and 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: hated everything you stand for and wanted it destroyed. How 26 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: much damage could the disseminator of information? How much damage 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: could he do to the tribe. I think you could 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: make the argument he could destroy it completely. And I 29 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: think you could make the argument. Where we are right 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: now as a nation with a media that is wholly 31 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: hostile to the nation, I think you can make an 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: honest argument they are destroying the United States of America 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: with the absolute disgusting falsehoods they push out their day 34 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: after day. You have how many of these media organizations 35 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: are funded at least in part by the communist Chinese. 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? Why would the communist 37 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: Chinese fund so many American media organizations? Have you thought 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: about that? I would look right now, what's hot in 39 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: the news? Kyle Rittenhouse stuff. Have you really thought back 40 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: to everything they said about Kyle Rittenhouse. You remember this 41 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: Kenosha shooter, Kyle Rittenhouse. He murdered two people. By the way, 42 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: Rittenhouse is basically what you would have had in a 43 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: school shooter. He's a seventeen year old kid. He shouldn't 44 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: have had a gun. He crossed eight lines to supposedly 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: protect property. No, he was going out to shoot people. 46 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse, the seventeen year old vigilante. Kyle Rittenhouse, the vigilante. 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse, the armed teenage vigilante. The seventeen year old vigilante, 48 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: arguably a domestic terrorists, picked up a rifle, drove to 49 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: a different state to shoot people. Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy 50 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: who's deeply racist, went with a weapon still a Black 51 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: Lives Matter protest, looking to get in trouble. He did. 52 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: He murdered a couple of people. Written House, the seventeen 53 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: year old kid just running around shooting and killing protesters. 54 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: You see, seventeen year old who was radicalized by Trumpism, 55 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: took his AAR fifteenth to Kenosha and became a killer. 56 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: All those things are lies, and as we stand here, 57 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: they put that kid on trial. Let's remember these lies. 58 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: They're what prompted the prosecution to bring charges, murder charges 59 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: against that ship, against that kid. These things have huge consequences. 60 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: You remember the Steele dossier, right, Let's just again recap this, 61 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: because I don't think we should gloss over this at all. 62 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: The Hillary Clinton campaign got a hold of Christopher Steele, 63 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: a foreign intelligence agent, and had him put together a 64 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: book of dirt basically on Donald Trump. The Clinton campaign 65 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: then took that Steel dossier and brought it to the 66 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: Federal Bureau of Investigation, who used it and took it 67 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: down to the Fisichord, acting like it was some kind 68 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: of legal document, and got permission to spy on Donald 69 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: Trump and his campaign. Everybody knew this at the time. 70 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: I knew it. We talked about it all the time 71 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: on the show. There were media sources all across the 72 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: right saying, how could you do this. This is from 73 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. This is not legal, You're not allowed to 74 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: do this. And you have organizations like the Washington Post. 75 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: They went all in. Media organization after media organization went 76 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: all in saying Donald Trump was a Russian agent. They 77 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: knew it to be false, and yet they pushed that 78 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: lie out there time and time again. And I ask 79 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: you how many Americans to this day, what percentage of 80 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: Americans to this day believe Donald Trump was a Russian agent. 81 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: That's a big deal. Remember what that brought that brought 82 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: Muller investigation about that, brought the House of Representatives going 83 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 1: to Democrats halfway through Donald Trump's term, no more legislative 84 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: things passed. That's a major deal that changes the course 85 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: of a nation, all because we have a media, our 86 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: media disseminator hate you. Think about that. Think about the 87 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden stuff. I mean, take this in right before 88 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: an election, the son of the then presidential hopeful, Joe Biden, 89 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: we discover his laptop. The New York Post runs a 90 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: story on Hunter Biden's laptop and the things on there. 91 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: And I'm not even talking about the dirty stuff and 92 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: the pictures and whatnot. I don't even care about that, 93 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: the things on there where it looks like we not 94 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: only have Hunter Biden horribly corrupt, it looks like Joe 95 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: is involved. It made the Biden family look like a 96 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: flat out political crime family. I mean, look, here's a 97 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: little refresher for you. There's no evidence that Hunter Biden 98 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: has done anything wrong. There is no evidence of any 99 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: wrongdoing between by Biden, by Joe Biden, or by Hunter Biden. 100 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: There's no evidence that Joe Biden actually did anything wrong 101 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: or did anything to sway things in Hunter Biden's favor. 102 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: He's denied that his son ever lobbied him for anything. 103 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: There is nothing, There is nothing wrong that Vice President 104 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: Biden did. The President Trump has falsely accused your son 105 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: of doing something wrong while serving on a company board 106 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. I want to point out there's no evidence 107 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: of wrongdoing by either one of you. There is no 108 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: evidence that anybody did anything illegal regarding the Bidens and Ukraine, 109 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: and Joe Biden was carrying out US policy. President Trump 110 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: wanted dirt on Joe and Hunter Biden. Trump's claims about 111 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: wrongdoing here are unsubstantiated. We have looked no evidence that 112 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: was flat out lying. That's not even manipulating the truth. 113 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: That's not twisting the truth. That's not massaging the truth 114 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: or whatever were they want to put it. That's flat 115 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: out lying. We had evidence, and not only do we 116 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: have it, it was digital evidence on a computer and 117 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: we had a corroborating witness. Remember Tony Bob o Lynsky 118 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: was the business partner of these people and was more 119 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: than willing to go on record on camera and verify 120 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: every We had everything. We had all the evidence in 121 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: the world. The son of the now president of the 122 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: United States of America is amazingly corrupt, and so is 123 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: his father, and not only corrupt, corrupted by the communist Chinese, 124 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: who are the enemy of the United States of America. 125 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: It was all right there, and they all lied, and 126 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: then we found out after the fact. Media research centers 127 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: surveyed the Biden voters for point six percent of them 128 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: said they would not have voted for Joe Biden had 129 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: they known about this whole thing. By the way, Donald 130 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: Trump would have won the election. So that's the American 131 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: media intentionally telling a lie in costing Donald Trump the 132 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: election and giving it to Joe Biden. What are we 133 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: supposed to do about all this? Let's not forget they're 134 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: the ones who've pushed sat doctor Fauci on you for 135 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: two years now. That absurd little idiot tyrant has been 136 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: assaulting your freedoms for two years now. The media has 137 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: propped him up like some kind of god, even though 138 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: he's basically a punchline at this point in time. And yeah, 139 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I can give you these numbers. Fifty three 140 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: percent of voters don't trust the news, okay, forty seven 141 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: percent two forty seven percent of the United States of America. 142 00:08:54,960 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: They sit down at night and they turn on NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, 143 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: and they sit back and they think to themselves, the 144 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: things they're seeing and hearing are true. So let me 145 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: rewind back to the very beginning of this whole thing. 146 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: How could that tribe of ours possibly survive if the 147 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: man in charge of disseminating information to the tribe hates 148 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: the tribe, It simply won't. I don't know that I 149 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: have a good answer for how we can fix the media, 150 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: but I do know that this cannot continue. We cannot 151 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: survive as a nation with this level of misinformation out there. 152 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: If they're able, if they're completely free to just push 153 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: out lie after lie after lie after lie without a 154 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: second thought, We're not going to make it. So. I 155 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: don't know whether we need to change the civil laws 156 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: in this country. I don't know whether we need to 157 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: change the criminal laws in this country, but I do 158 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: know this, we have got to do something because we 159 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: can't last much longer. All that may have made you uncomfortable, 160 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: but I'm right. We have a great special for you tonight. 161 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: We have actually Steve Krakauer coming up next. He's always 162 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: money hang on parts of the now infamous dossier on 163 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: Trump have proven to be true that the dossier, but 164 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: it hasn't been discredited. In fact, it's been the opposite. 165 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: It's been corroborated. Much of the dossier has been corroborated. 166 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: This discredited Dosia. Your Intel community has corroborated all of 167 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: the details in their the meeting. Some of the sub 168 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: content content of the dossier we were able to corroborate 169 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: in our Intel's community assessment, which from other sources in 170 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: which we had very high confidence. We know that with 171 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: the FISA application, the relevant parts of Christopher Steele's dossier 172 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: were corroborate, that if the application included information from the dossier, 173 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: it would only be after the FBI had in fact 174 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: corroborated information through its own investigation. And we also know 175 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: that as time goes on, more and more parts of 176 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: the Steel dossier get corroberated. Man, that sounds really bad. 177 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: It's all been corroborated. Joining me now, Steve Kraker, He 178 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: is the editor with Fourth Watch dot Media. Steve, So, 179 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: I had no idea all that was corroborated. That sounds 180 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: really bad for Trump. I mean, my goodness, the media 181 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: said so it's so pathetic when you watch it like that. Look, 182 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: the steel dosier was written and that it was put 183 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: out there, and then it was supposedly corroborated. But when 184 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: it was clear that it wasn't corroborated, then it became well, 185 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: it hasn't exactly been disproven yet, Oh it has been disproven. Okay, 186 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: well now, even first of all, in twenty nineteen, it 187 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: was essentially disproven. But now as these indictments start coming 188 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: and the rest start being made, it's clearly a total 189 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: scam run by the Hillary Clinton campaign. And only now 190 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: we're starting to see a little bit of like eking 191 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: towards corrections and not apologies. But hey, we got this 192 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: story wrong. The Washington Post has started to do that. 193 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: Not everyone, though, And you look at all those clips. CNN, 194 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: MSNBC the worst offenders, and they have said nothing so 195 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: far when it comes to correcting the record on this 196 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: horrible miscarriage of journalistic integrity. Steve, how am I supposed 197 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: to How am I supposed to unpack this? Okay? They lied, 198 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: They lied for a long time. The lies had far 199 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: reaching consequences, including losing the House of Representatives for Republicans. 200 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,239 Speaker 1: I mean, this was the basis really for the impeachment 201 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: of the president of the United States of America. And 202 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: now all we get is a whoop see from a 203 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: couple of media outlets. That's not good enough, Steve. When 204 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: you destroy lives like that and there are real consequences, whoops, 205 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry in a little editor's note on an article 206 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: is not enough. No, And you've got this Steel dossier, 207 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: and you've got Mullar, you know, the Mullar investigation. Those 208 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: are those were what everything that Rachel Maddow's fever dream 209 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: hinged on when she put her put her credibility on 210 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: the line every night for four years about this Trump 211 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: administration when it comes to Russia collusion and all of this, 212 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: it was a total scam, as we know now. And 213 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: you're right, now, what do you do? You know, what's 214 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: how do we correct the record here? Okay, you can apologize, 215 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: maybe you can say we got this wrong, You could 216 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: rereport the story, but that's not going to change the 217 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: minds of the people who have come to at some point, 218 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,119 Speaker 1: you know, decade ago to two decades ago, trusted the media. 219 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: This is a forever stain on the institution and it 220 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: all comes down to the hatred of Trump and though 221 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: and just this this feeling that they wanted it to 222 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: be right so much that they were willing to sacrifice 223 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 1: any last credibility that they had when it comes to 224 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: journalism integrity in order to sort of propagate this story, 225 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: which we now know is totally fall This is it's 226 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: potentially a death sentence for some of these news organizations 227 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to their credibility. Okay, I'm glad you 228 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: brought that up, because, look, I don't pretend like I 229 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: can change the Washington Post or CNN, but I do 230 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: want the American people to stop reading and stop watching 231 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: them and that Look, that's easy for you, Steve, that's 232 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: easy for me, But the average American understandably it gets home, work, kids, school, 233 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: life's busy is sit down for five minutes at the 234 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: end of the day and turn on the TV trying 235 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: to catch up on the news. How can you get 236 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: through to that person and say, everything you're seeing right 237 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: now is a lie. I think that the rise of 238 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: media has has made a huge difference, you know, places 239 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: like the first, places like Joe Rogan, who have, you know, 240 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: just a tremendous amount of not just an increase in visibility, 241 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: but an increase in credibility. You know, we've saw this, 242 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: these rules collide with Joe Rogan versus doctor Sanjay Gupta 243 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: only a few weeks ago, and they did it on 244 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan's podcast. It was a great three three a 245 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: half hour conversation which I thought came away with. Okay, 246 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: you know Joe Rogan one, So maybe sounda group that 247 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: got a point in here and there. And then what 248 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: happened after is sounda group to ran to CNN and 249 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: lied about that exchange, lied about what Joe Rogan had said. 250 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: And it's so painfully obvious now, So would I would 251 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: prefer that CNN, that NBC News, that ABC News had 252 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: some credibility. So, as you say, it would be good 253 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: if someone could just sit on the couch and watch 254 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: five minutes and get the news. But that's clearly not happening. 255 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: And I actually do think that COVID is the game changer. 256 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: I think the Steel dossier is a little complicated. You 257 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: have to know a little bit of what's going on 258 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: in order to sort of see exactly how really insidious 259 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: this was. COVID is very clear the media got it wrong. 260 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: They lied it over and over again, and they're still 261 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: lying about it, and it's affecting people's lives on an 262 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: everyday basis. They're seeing that. I think that changes people's 263 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: viewing habits, changes people's perception of the media forever. So 264 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: I guess maybe I'm trying to put rose covered glasses 265 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: on here. But things are getting better. As far as 266 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: the distrust and the media rising, it's just happening a 267 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: little slower than you or I would prefer. Yeah, I 268 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: think that there's distrust that's rising. And we see what's 269 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: happening on substack, we see what's happening with podcasts, with streaming. 270 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: People have so many choices now when it comes to 271 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: where they can get their news and their information. It's 272 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: actually one of the reasons that I fight for places 273 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: like Facebook and Twitter to have more rain to allow 274 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: things to be on their platforms. Now, it's incumbent on 275 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: them to not give into them. What I would say 276 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: is political and media mop's after them after Facebook to 277 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,359 Speaker 1: try to crack down on quote unquote misinformation and disinformation. 278 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: They need to hold strong because this is the way 279 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: people get their news back, This is the way people 280 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: get to their information back, and this is how people 281 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: can go and start to really start to connect with 282 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: other people and start to see things that are that 283 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: are true, and it happens on these social media platforms, 284 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: and it happens with the way people can can you 285 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: connect with others and not be relying on legacy media 286 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: and establishment media anymore. So you think social media is 287 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: helping or hurting the spread of these outright lies, I 288 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: think it could make an argument either way. You can 289 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: make an argument of the way. But I would say 290 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: that that net net social media gives people a voice, 291 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: and it gives people a voice that they've never had 292 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: before ten fifteen years ago. You can never have the 293 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: rise of individuals on social media platforms that can accrue 294 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: as sort of a base that you don't have giant 295 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: media organizations based in DC or in New York, or 296 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: tech companies in San Francisco or in Hollywood in LA. 297 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: You can do things now with social media that you 298 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: couldn't before. Now what I worry about is social media 299 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: companies getting scared that they're going to get cracked down 300 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: upon by politicians who are going to sort to blame 301 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: them for quote unquote spreading misinformation. That's what I think 302 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: we have to really worry about. But the goal is 303 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: that these companies can continue to give people the voice 304 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: that they never had before. And maybe it's not going 305 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: to be on Facebook and Twitter. We've seen that sometimes 306 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: that these organizations crack down, they start to ban people, 307 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 1: those people have to go to get her into other 308 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: organizations that to get their voice out there, Rumble, lots 309 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: of others you know that are sort of alternatives when 310 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: it comes to social media. But social media is the key, 311 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: that's the engine to bypass the gatekeepers that once were 312 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: there in the in the mainstream media. Steve, what's Fourth 313 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: Watch for people who don't know, Yeah, Fourth Watch is 314 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: a is a media newsletter that I have to say. 315 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: I started because I love to media. I used to 316 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: work at CNN. I wanted to be better, but it 317 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: has become so terrible, frankly, and so unaccountable to the 318 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: average person, so far detached in their elite bubble that 319 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: they need to be called out, and most people don't 320 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: call them out. I'm not an overly political person one 321 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: way or the other, but I can see that the 322 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: writing is on the wall. The media is self destructing 323 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: and the Trump era and beyond, and I use Fourth Watch. 324 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: Fourth watchdown media, to call them out, to call them 325 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: to account, and to try to get the story right. Steve, 326 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: thank you so much, brother, I appreciate it. Yesie anytime. 327 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: Thanks all right, Our good buddy Curtis Howe joins us 328 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: next joining me now, my friend Curtis howekey is of course, 329 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: with the Media Research Center. They do the best stuff 330 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: calling out all the scum out there. Curtis, you're the 331 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: managing editor at the Media Research Center, so I'm sure 332 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: you have received I mean, I can't even imagine what 333 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: the biggest lie you've heard is, because you guys go 334 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: through this stuff for a living and you call out 335 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: the media for a living. The coverage of what took 336 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: place in Kenosha, Wisconsin. I won't say it's the worst 337 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: I've ever seen because I don't want to be accused 338 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: of hyperbole, but man, it's got to be top five. 339 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: We've got everything in the story, Jesse. This trial had 340 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: lack of ignorance when it comes to guns, a basic 341 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: understanding of how the criminal justice system works, and the 342 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: inability to understand humor and sarcasm. I mean, this was 343 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: this case was the trifecta, or more than that, it 344 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: just had everything in it in terms of the media's 345 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: blind spots here highlighted by, of course, the angle of race. 346 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: All trial, you kept hearing about how this was an 347 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: example of how the criminal justice system was racist and 348 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: black people were being trampled on and this was all 349 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: terrible and unfair, joy Read talking about white person tears. 350 00:20:52,359 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: But none of the people involved were black. But anyway, Yeah, no, 351 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: it has been very odd. Here's a little flashback for 352 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: those who've forgotten. Kenosha shooter Kyle Rittenhouse. He murdered two people. 353 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: By the way, Rittenhouse is basically what you would have 354 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: had in a school shooter. He's a seventeen year old kid. 355 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: He shouldn't have had a gun. He crossed eight lines 356 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: to supposedly protect property. No, he was going out to 357 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: shoot people. Kyle Rittenhouse, the seventeen year old vigilante. Kyle 358 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: Rittenhouse and vigilante Kyle Rittenhouse, the armed teenage vigilante, A 359 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: seventeen year old vigilante, arguably a domestic terrorists, picked up 360 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: a rifle, drove to a different state to shoot people. 361 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse, a guy who's deeply racist, went with weapons 362 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: to a Black Lives Matter protest, looking to get in trouble. 363 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: He did. He murdered a couple of people, rittenhouse. The 364 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: seventeen year old kid just running around shooting and killing protesters. 365 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: He see, seventeen year old who was radicalized by Trumpism 366 00:21:54,880 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: took his AAR fifteenth to Kenosha and became a killer. Curtis, 367 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: setting aside all the very dumb people in that video, 368 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: why do you think the American media is so hell 369 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: bent on fighting for two dead piece of crap communists 370 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: who were looting and burning a city, and so adamant 371 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: that the guy who tried to stop them is the 372 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: bad guy. Isn't that bizarre? Ah? Well, I don't necessarily 373 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: think so, Jesse, because they're defending their own. As you 374 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: point out, these people are communists, So communists defending communists 375 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: where such in such a polarized world, specifically with the left, 376 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: where anyone who isn't on their side is a domestic 377 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: terrorist and you know, worse yet, it really isn't there 378 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: are sub human human beings who should be treated like 379 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: members of Al Kader or Isis by our intelligence community. 380 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: We're dealing with people like to call Wallace, and you 381 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: know that John Heilman clip was from her show and 382 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: Jason Johnson as well, where they don't really see people 383 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: on the other side as human being, so they automatically 384 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: assume that because Kyle Rittenhouse is not one of them, 385 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: he must be a really bad guy. And we had 386 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: the stupidity of the liberal media in this case where 387 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: they reminded us that they actually think they themselves in 388 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: the media are conservative, that they have a conservative bias. 389 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: That montage you just play definitely shows that they are 390 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: anything but conservative. Nick Sandman wrote a piece on the 391 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: sixteenth of this month writing about how, yeah, you know, 392 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse should follow his lead. It's going to be 393 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: tough and your life is going to be consumed by this, 394 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: but if you think it's worth it, Kyle, you should 395 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: absolutely go for it. And we, of course happen to 396 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: agree with that that he should sue specifically those people 397 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: in that video and maybe even the President United States 398 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: to the moon and back. Yeah, I agree. And the 399 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: speaking of joy Ane Reid, I look, joy and Reid 400 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: doesn't make me as mad as she makes other people, 401 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: for the same reason my dog doesn't make He's an idiot, 402 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: Joanne read. So this is this is her In case 403 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: anyone would like to see to the coverting House trial. 404 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: It reminded a lot of people of something something I 405 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,719 Speaker 1: just can't remember what it was. Oh, the Brett Kavanaugh hearings, 406 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: in which Brett Kavanaugh, who had been accused by a 407 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 1: high school friend of committing sexual abuse of her, cried 408 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: his way through the hearings to make him a permanent 409 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: member and Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court. 410 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: And his tears turned out to be more powerful than 411 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: the tears of Christine Blasi Ford, which were the tears 412 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: of an alleged victim. But in America, there's a thing 413 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: about both white vigilantism and white tears, particularly male white tears, 414 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: really white tears in general, because that's what carrots are, right, 415 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: they carn out and then as soon as it get 416 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: called clean waterworks, white men can get away with that too. Curtis, 417 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: I really want to I mean this. I'm not trying 418 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: to be mean at all. I've really genuinely mean this. 419 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: Do you think joy Anne Reid knows she's dumb and 420 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: lucky to be on TV? Or do you think she 421 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: genuinely thinks she's intelligent? I really genuinely mean that. Do 422 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: you think she looks in the mirror and says, man, 423 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: I am an idiot. I can't believe I get paid 424 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: to talk on television. I actually think while she is dumb, 425 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: I think she does look at herself in the mirror 426 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: and is like, damn, I am one smart cookie, Like 427 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: look at me, I'm incredibly attractive, Like I'm gonna wear 428 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 1: my hair fifty different ways. Sometimes wear tshirts on the 429 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: show were like leather jackets that are just cringe worthy. 430 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: It's because Jesse she knows that no matter what she says, 431 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: she's never going to get fired. Okay, there's no way 432 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: MSNBC would fire a black woman in the evening hours 433 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: of a show, okay for poor ratings or for conduct. 434 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: So she knows that her life is basically one giant 435 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, yolo sign. So she's just gonna go out 436 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: there and say whatever racist crap that's on her mind. 437 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,239 Speaker 1: It's really evil what she's saying here. I thought, you know, 438 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: the left wants men to be more feminine and show 439 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: more tears and emotion. So here's someone. Here's two people, 440 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: Brett Kevin on Kyle Rittenhouse who cried when they were 441 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: accused of a her falsehoods and suddenly it's not cool 442 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: and it's fake and it's not true. I'm trying to 443 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: understand what view these people want to have of men here. 444 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: It's very difficult to keep up. Curtis, is the medium 445 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: more dangerous now than it's ever been or less dangerous? 446 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: I think they're more dangerous because not only do they 447 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: have the dehumanizing and level of inciting of incitement that 448 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 1: they engage in on a daily basis, I would also 449 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: say that they're just completely clueless. They also engage in division, 450 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: not just on Kyle Rittenhouse, but you look in inflation 451 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: and people like Stephanie Rules saying, oh, you can afford everything, 452 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: just fine, it's all in your head. You know, you 453 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: have the White House being backed up by the news 454 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: media saying that all of this injection of money is 455 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: going to work out great, and everyone else just doesn't 456 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: know what they're talking about, or they want people to 457 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: starve or something like that, or they want people to 458 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: be overrun by climate change and homes to be destroyed. 459 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: So you combine those two things ignorance on basic policy 460 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: issues and then also in inability to even acknowledge people 461 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: who disagree with them as human beings. And it's a 462 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: really poisonous combination here. And it's also poisoned because, as 463 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: you said, you have a combination of dumb people like 464 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: joy Read genuinely dumb people, and people like Nicolas, who 465 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: I think are dumb but know exactly what they're doing. 466 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: She's been a long time political operative. And you have 467 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: people that empty their thesaurus. Is like Steve Schmidt, who 468 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: just spill words out for five minutes at nauseum when 469 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: he's on a panel with six other seven other people. 470 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 1: And it just takes crazy people listening at home to think, Oh, 471 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: these people my next door neighbor, you know, my spouse, 472 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: my like kid, or whatever the votes Republican or as 473 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: a conservative. They're dangerous. You know if we I don't 474 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: stop them, I don't report them, who knows what they're 475 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: gonna do to me. It's what kind of world are 476 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: we living in? A weird one? Curtis, thank you so much, 477 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: my brother as always anytime, Jesse, all right, we got 478 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: Sean Davis with the Federalist joining us. Next, hang on, 479 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: I think you also have to have some new ground 480 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: rules for the media. I think they have to stop 481 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: treating Republicans like normal politicians, not normal politicians. This is 482 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: not normal conduct. Um. This is a party that spends 483 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: its entire time cooking up these ridiculous cultural memes, um, 484 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: fanning violence and coming up with outright lies cultural memes 485 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: treating Republicans differently. Joining me now, my friend co founder 486 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: of the Federalist, Sean Davis, Sean man, that almost sounds 487 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:39,239 Speaker 1: like communism. Oh she's a special lady, didn't she? She is? 488 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: She is, look Sean. Honestly, I asked this question publicly 489 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: on social media, and I want to ask you when 490 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: it comes to people like Jennifer Rubin, and I'm gonna 491 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: be as nice as humanly possible. Do you think Jennifer 492 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: Rubin understands she's not somebody in possession of any level 493 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: of talent or wit whatsoever. Her very existence professionally is 494 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: only owed to the facts she used a complete regime 495 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: propagandist at all times. Do you think she knows that? 496 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: I know, you know that, and I know that. Do 497 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: you think she knows? Oh? No, she doesn't have a clue. 498 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: In fact, I think she's basically the Democrat Party's beard. 499 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: They take her along out to parties and they parade 500 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: around with her to give the impression that oh, no, no no, 501 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: we know what conservatives think. We hang out with Republicans. 502 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: She's nothing but just a bought and paid for tody. 503 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: And the thing that I'm thankful for today is that 504 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: she's finally given up the ruse that she's a conservative 505 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: or a Republican. Recalled that she had the only position, 506 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: the only column at the Washington Post for people on 507 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: the right. They called it, I think, the right turn, 508 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: and she was there to represent the right wing point 509 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: of view. She's never been conservative, and I'm thankful, very 510 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: thankful that she no longer even pretends to be a 511 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: Republican because it strips away all the pretense. She's nothing 512 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: but a hack. Okay, let's address January sixth. Briefly, here 513 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: here was the media's reaction to Tucker Carlson doing a 514 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: documentary about it. Tucker Carlson has created a terrorist recruitment video, 515 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: Fox TV branching into fantasy programming a new series from 516 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson, Traffics and conspiracy Theory surrounding the insurrection on 517 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: January sixth, Tucker Carlson attempting to rewrite history around the 518 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: January sixth insurrection. Tucker Carlson makes a tribute video to 519 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: the terrorist. Tucker Carlson is hitting a new row, completely 520 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: rewriting the history of the Capital Insurrection in a way 521 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: that defies belief. Tuckham's previewed a documentary that goes beyond 522 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: the usual Daughters of the Confederacy rewrite of the January 523 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: sixth Insurrection to shameless lying and conspiracy mockery. Tucker Carlson 524 00:31:55,080 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: is leaning way in to disinformation regarding January sixth, and 525 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of terrifying because what he's putting out there 526 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: is just going to lead to more violent Sean, here's 527 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: my question. I understand you're always going to look at 528 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: montages like that and roll your eyes and laugh, as 529 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: am I. And we know everything these people say is 530 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: a lie, and we know why they tell the lies. 531 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: But in defense of the normal person who doesn't consume 532 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: politics the way you or I do, what chance do 533 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: they have? What is the solution? Now? I'm as free 534 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: press as free press gets, But Sean, how can a 535 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: nation survive with this level of misinformation constantly pushed on them? 536 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: It's killing us, It absolutely is. I mean, they really 537 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: are a fifth column. I remember when when Donald Trump 538 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: originally called them the enemy of the people. Several years ago. 539 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: I thought maybe that's a bit much the terrible and 540 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: their liars, but any of the enemy of the people, 541 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: I don't know about that, And now I think he 542 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: was completely correct. They are absolutely the enemy. They are 543 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: propagandists and liars. They have no interest in the truths, 544 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: they have no interest in the fact they're basically Provada, 545 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: which was the Soviet propaganda organ with less self awareness. 546 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: At least Probada knew what it was doing. They knew 547 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 1: they were nothing but a bunch of Soviet boot liquors 548 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: pushing the party line. These clowns actually pretend as if 549 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: they're the brave truthpellers, that they're the firefighters rushing into 550 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: the fire when they're going after stories. It's a huge 551 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: problem that they're all a bunch of disgraced, corrupt liars. 552 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: But the good news is outlets like this one, outlets 553 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: like The Federalist, we're making a dent, which is why 554 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: these people are so hell bent on shutting all of 555 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: us down, on getting Facebook to censor us, on getting 556 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: Twitter to ban us. They actually know how powerful it 557 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: is to have alternative media out there and information out 558 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: there that they don't want, and the fact that they 559 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: try so hard to shut people like us down, I 560 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: think is a testament to the influence that we have 561 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: and the ability we have to actually get the truth 562 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: out there. Sean, I'm worried. I already know the answer 563 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: to this question before why I ask it? But do 564 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 1: you think there will ever come a moment where these 565 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 1: people look around, even if it's just because of ratings, 566 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: look at television ratings or the clicks they get, or 567 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, and see how they're all 568 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 1: in free fall and they take a moment and self assess. 569 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: I mean, we've all had that moment you get out 570 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: of shape or something like that, you get out of 571 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: breath walking up the stairs, and you say, Okay, I 572 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: got to make some adjustments here. Do you think that 573 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:29,479 Speaker 1: moment ever comes for these people ever? No? Never, Because 574 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 1: if it were going to come, it would have come 575 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,720 Speaker 1: after twenty sixteen, when they so botched that election. Somebody 576 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: with a little bit of self awareness would have said, 577 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: you know what, I really got this wrong. What do 578 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: I need to do to make sure I don't get 579 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 1: it wrong anymore? And they didn't do that. They said, hey, 580 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: we didn't get it wrong enough. We should have been 581 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: harder core, we should have been more anti conservative, because 582 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: then this thing never would have happened. They went the 583 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,479 Speaker 1: exact opposite direction that an honest, good faith person would 584 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 1: have gone in if they were wanting to correct their errors. 585 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,439 Speaker 1: They are only interested it in power, and they will 586 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: not stop until they have all of it. They aren't 587 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: And what I don't know what to do is what 588 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: to do about them, Sean, because when you talk about 589 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: I mean, forget about the hunter Biden being the reason 590 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: Joe Biden got elected, them covering that up steal dossier 591 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: to Saint George Floyd, riots coronavirus, I mean more things 592 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: that we would even have time to listen to on 593 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: the show. What they're doing has real tangible disaster attached 594 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: to it. They cost people's lives, They cost the nation. 595 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: How are we on the right supposed to deal with 596 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: these people? What's a great question. I think the best 597 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: way to do it is to acknowledge and accept what 598 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: they are. These are not good faith arbiters. They're not 599 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 1: reporters because they're not actually reporting anything. They're not interested 600 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: in facts, and they're not interested in the truth. They're 601 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: corrupt propagandists who exist to push the party line of 602 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: the left wing regime. The controls nearly every major institution now, 603 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: and once you understand reality, I think everything becomes pretty 604 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: simple and pretty clear that they have to be appodes 605 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: and they have to be crushed. The problem is we 606 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: have so many people quote unquote on our side and 607 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: the media who want to pretend like, oh, no, no, no, 608 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: they're just fine, they're just a little misguided. You know, 609 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm the one who has the power and the ability 610 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: to bring them to the right side away from the 611 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: dark side, And that's just nonsense. The first thing we 612 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: have to do is acknowledge who they are and then 613 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: defeat them. Do you think the people on our side, 614 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: as you put it, who believe that, do you think 615 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: they're stupid or gutless? Yes, that's just for that one. Yeah, 616 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: I've always tried to unpack that part of it. If 617 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: you're still somebody who considers yourself on the right and 618 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: you look at these people, lie after lie after lie, 619 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: doing real damage after real damage after real damage, and 620 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: you sit back and say to yourself, well, they're just 621 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,399 Speaker 1: a little misguided. I don't know what you are, dumb 622 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: or cower them. But I don't know if it matters. 623 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 1: You're useless exactly. You stole the word right out of 624 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: my mouth. I was going to say, you're utterly useless 625 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 1: and you're not worth paying attention to. And it's why 626 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: that particular strain of media has been so marginalized and 627 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: why they're so desperate for the favor of the left. 628 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: They have no audience on the right, No one cares 629 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: what they think because there are a bunch of morons, 630 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: and so the last thing they have to do is 631 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: cling to the left to help give them some sort 632 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: of legitimacy. All right, John, why'd you start the Federalist? 633 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: By the way, it's a great question. It needed to 634 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: exist it When we first started it, we looked at 635 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: the universe out there and we said, there's a bunch 636 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: of publications out there that seem to exist to tell 637 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,879 Speaker 1: the rest of the country what Washington wants it to hear. 638 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: And we decided, you know what, we need something out 639 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: there that's going to tell Washington what the rest of 640 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: the country decides it needs to hear. So it's why 641 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 1: we're not based in Washington. It's why so many of 642 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: our writers are people with real jobs every day, that 643 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,919 Speaker 1: go out and work with their hands and make things 644 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: and do things that are useful, that write articles for 645 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: us on their own time, with their own normal perspectives. 646 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: We were concerned, you know, eight years ago, and we 647 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: started that that didn't exist. I wish it had, but 648 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: it didn't, and so we decided, well, we'll create it 649 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: from scratch. And I think so far we've done a 650 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: good job of representing the rest of the country to 651 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: Washington as opposed to trying to shove down America's throats 652 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: whatever it is Washington wants them to swallow. Sean Davis, everybody, 653 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: thank you, my brother, thank you, sir. All right, my 654 00:38:36,080 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: final thoughts. Thanks. We need a solution. We need a 655 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: solution for the media in this country. We do. We 656 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: can't continue on like this and look hate to sound 657 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: self serving. Maybe you're watching the solution the first thrilled 658 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: to be here, thrilled to work for a network that 659 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: actually is interested in the truth and pushing that out there. 660 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: Maybe the solution is networks like this one who aren't 661 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: going to be censored. We aren't going to cover up 662 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: things that make people uncomfortable. We're going to go out 663 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: there and we're going to voice it. By the way, 664 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: you can still become a supporter of the First if 665 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: you go to the First tv dot com slash support. 666 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: That makes you kind of an insider with the exclusive 667 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: content and whatnot. But in all seriousness, maybe that's what 668 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: can save us. Maybe it's the only thing that can 669 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: save us. But we need something right now, and we 670 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: need something badly. We can't continue like this, All right, 671 00:39:53,760 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: we'll do it again. I would