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Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Barth Blazarre and Lazarren. Hello, everybody nailed

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Speaker 1: it joined as always my powers gain dablin no risk.

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Speaker 1: Here is Evan Lazar and Alex bars.

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Speaker 2: Remember a couple of years ago, the conversation was, well,

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Speaker 2: the bills of Josh Allen their wagon. The Dolphins just

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Speaker 2: signed this wonder kid, offensive genius named Mike McDaniel, and

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Speaker 2: look out, the Jets got future Hall of Fame round Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Like there weren't people saying for the next five years,

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Speaker 2: the Patriots can't win the division. Don't even bother, right,

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Speaker 2: and I just it's not to take a victory lap

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Speaker 2: or like you know, defend the wall wave the Patriots flag.

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Speaker 2: Its That's not how the NFL works. There is an undercurrent,

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Speaker 2: an active undercurrent in the NFL designed to make the

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Speaker 2: good teams bad and the bad teams good. With the

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Speaker 2: great everybody back to the men right with the great

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Speaker 2: organizations know how to do is hold off that under

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Speaker 2: current as long as possible. Twenty years is ridiculous. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: twenty years is by no means the standard. It never

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Speaker 2: will be. It will never be done again, Catch twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Are you sure about that? Never be done again? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not to that. I'm pretty sure about that too.

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Speaker 1: Not to that. Love Patriots is set up pretty good, Barth.

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Speaker 1: They said pretty good. Only nineteen years to go, coach,

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Speaker 1: young quarterback. I'm looking forward to the next nineteen years.

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, it's Evan Lazar Alex Barth, getting way ahead

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Speaker 1: of ourselves talking about year another twenty year run of dominance.

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Speaker 1: Catch twenty two. We're gonna talk about this Chargers game.

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Speaker 1: Huge win for the Patriots on Sunday, a season validation,

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Speaker 1: I would say, for the Patriots on Sunday against the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: We will also, of course talk about the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: We'll spend a lot of time in the first hour

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Speaker 1: on this Chargers game. Second hour will be all Texans,

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Speaker 1: so we'll get plenty of preview about Houston because I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people by now. As much as

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Speaker 1: it was fun to revel in that win, and Monday

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Speaker 1: was really a fun day because you didn't know who

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Speaker 2: Playing, I was gonna say the Monday night playoff game

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Speaker 2: is an affront to everything and every one of my senses,

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Speaker 2: Like the National football.

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Speaker 1: You dump on college football for being minor league. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they play their playoff games on weeknights. The National football

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Speaker 1: they should not be playing playoff games on weeknights. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it was kind of fun when it's your team

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Speaker 1: waiting on the outcome of that game to see who

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Speaker 1: you get, and you know, I all Monday you didn't

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Speaker 1: happened here on Sunday night. And that's a big picture.

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Speaker 1: Where I wanted to start was, you know, just by

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Speaker 1: saying I one of my favorite parts about Boston sports

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Speaker 1: a fan of the Boston sports teams is that we

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Speaker 1: are a championship driven people, a championship driven Like we

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Speaker 1: do not celebrate wild card wins with parades or banners

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Speaker 1: or anything like that like some other places might. All Right,

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Speaker 1: we don't do that here. We are super Bowl or bust.

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Speaker 1: We are title or bust. And that's really we shouldn't

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Speaker 1: lose that. Like, that's a great part about this city

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Speaker 1: and uh, these sports fans. With that being said, there

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Speaker 1: are some times exceptions to these things. And I do

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Speaker 1: turnaround that we are experiencing right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a unique situation where you know, like

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Speaker 2: during that twenty year run, Oh, everybody would always laugh

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Speaker 2: at you know, the advertisements for the clinching the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: the clinching the division gear or like everybody be like,

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Speaker 2: who is a conference championship t shirt?

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Speaker 1: Right? No, you get the Super Bowl teachers. I have

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Speaker 1: a one one because you know that one was different? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I just like the design of the shirt.

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Speaker 1: But I bought it like the old one. I bought

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Speaker 1: it like ten years after AFC championship hat is rocks.

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Speaker 2: And can we bring back the old championship trophies too

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Speaker 2: while we're at it?

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Speaker 1: Those are so much better. Yeah, you don't like the

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Speaker 2: That was like had felt like rustic.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why you know I'm talking about Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know this is was silly of me.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why we're going down this road. When

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that the AFC championship trophies are also

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Speaker 2: Some in the hall, unless those are like okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry I ruined the illusion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like you know, like Hollywood acting right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what was I What was I saying? But yeah, like

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Speaker 2: So the port I was making is like, yeah, we

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Speaker 2: you said off the top their position pretty well. It

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Speaker 2: is more like we're celebrating I think you can celebrate

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Speaker 2: the steps well acknowledged that the steps are not the

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Speaker 2: a wildcard game and be like, okay, cool, moving on,

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Speaker 2: when the expectation is to win nine or ten games,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna look at that wildcard game a little differently.

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Speaker 1: So next year, maybe we don't do the hullabaloo about

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Speaker 2: Hopefully it will feel like less of a deal at

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Speaker 2: that point, it'd be a good thing. But I think

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Speaker 2: right now you can get away with that. But we

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Speaker 2: do have a little bit of Patriots breaking news here.

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 2: The Patriots have our let me find the exact word.

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Speaker 2: Here are signing former Texans defensive end. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if it's Darryl or uh Derell. It's two RS two

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Speaker 2: L's Darryl Taylor to the practice squad, according to Ian

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Speaker 2: Rappaport quote, with the strong possibility of elevating him for

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. This guy just got waived by the Texans

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Speaker 2: last week. Okay, former nine and a half sack guy

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Speaker 2: for the Seattle Seahawks a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I recognize the name. I'm not super familiar with,

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Speaker 1: uh the player, to be honest with you, but.

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Speaker 2: Signing somebody just got cut by the Texans.

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Speaker 1: We're not doing that. We're not doing that anyways. The

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Speaker 1: revenge game, well, little Darryl Taylor revenge game. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna pick his brain and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: get all. This wasn't even going there, They're gonna get

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Speaker 1: all the secrets about the Texans defense that doesn't do

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Speaker 1: thinking that. I was thinking, uh, it's Darryl Daryl Taylor. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: No, you're gonna put him out. They're gonna elevate him

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Speaker 1: Okay, maybe we'll get to all that, but thank you

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Speaker 1: for that information. Fourteen wins a playoff win. It's not normal.

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Speaker 1: It's not normal to win four games back to back

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Speaker 1: as we start to talk about this Chargers game, I

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Speaker 1: I did not want them to go win fourteen games

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Speaker 1: and we all have the whole soft schedule thing for

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Speaker 1: You gotta have you heard the Chargers suck, but you

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Speaker 1: they lost to the Texans, you gotta you had a

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Speaker 1: I feel like is maybe a little bit of gravy,

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I'm guarded in this take because I

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Speaker 2: remember in twenty twenty one saying they're ahead of.

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Speaker 2: Happened twenty twenty one, but they didn't even need to.

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Speaker 2: I feel good about where they're at, like, yeah, they're

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Speaker 2: in which they lost. That game completely changed that conversation.

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Speaker 2: So you can't get your doors blown off by the Texans.

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Speaker 2: You know they to your point, they should. I do

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Speaker 2: it doesn't look competitive, that would be kind of alarming.

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Speaker 1: But I'm mostly with you. I think if they had

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Speaker 1: I think that winning this playoff game really did adds

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying like it. It's easy to say in

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Speaker 2: the moment, I feel good about where they're at. One,

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Speaker 2: it's the National footballagu One game can change a lot.

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Speaker 2: Don't think that's going to happen. For what it's worth,

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Speaker 1: After If they go out there and lose forty one

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Speaker 1: is pretty crazy to think that that would happen. Let's

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Speaker 1: get into the Chargers. I think the other big picture

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Speaker 1: you know who said that, David Andrews and he played

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Speaker 2: Compare it because Super Bowls are different, but then he

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, And I don't want to always like harken

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Speaker 2: But prior to that game, they'd scored at least twenty

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Speaker 2: I think McDaniel's called a good game. I think the

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I just think when you sit there and say,

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Speaker 1: They just needed to get guys back.

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Speaker 2: It's a good reminder that, you know, it's not the

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Speaker 1: I mean Barmore just denting the pocket consistently in justin

436
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 1: Herbert's lap, and then Milton Williams man. Like watching Milton

437
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 1: Williams rush that gear that he gets to when he's

438
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 1: one on one, you know, whether it was that speed

439
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 1: to power bowl or the arm over over the center

440
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 1: of the swim move like that, he has a different

441
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 1: level of explosiveness than the rest of the of the

442
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: Patriots rushers do that They just is just a different

443
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: gear when you watch him play that They haven't really

444
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,479
Speaker 1: had that, you know that we talk about, like in

445
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 1: the draft, we often talk about like play making gears, right,

446
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: Like who has that ability to just kind of make

447
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 1: those splash plays. Milton Williams has that in droves, And

448
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 1: I don't know if they've had a guy like that

449
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: maybe since like Judon was, you know, really humming in

450
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: like twenty one, twenty two. So he's been great. The

451
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: other you know, kind of standouts, I mentioned them a

452
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 1: little bit briefly before I thought this was another tremendous

453
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones game. I mean, just unbelievable. Maybe the best

454
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 1: player on the field for the Patriots defense. He covered

455
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: Ladd McConkie on twenty routes in this game, basically shadowed

456
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: Ladd McConkie. Ladd one kitch one catch for twenty yards

457
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: on a extended, you know, scrambled drill man coverage play

458
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: and I had multiple tackles, had the tackle down by

459
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: the goal line of Justin Herbert on the quarterback run,

460
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 1: chopped him down. That was a sneaky important play early

461
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: on in this game. You know, if he doesn't make

462
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: that play, you don't get the fourth down stop, you

463
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: don't get the turnover on downs there. It's a completely

464
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Speaker 1: different game. So Marcus Jones, I think he's played at

465
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Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl level this year. I think he should

466
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Speaker 1: have gotten more recognition in the All Pro and the

467
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl voting than he did. You know, they have

468
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 1: a slot cornerback now and the All Pro voting, and

469
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: he was like fourth or fifth on the list, and

470
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a joke, Like this is Yeah,

471
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: he is definitely deserved more recognition than he got. He's

472
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: had a tremendous year. Like I mentioned Christian Gonzales, until

473
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 1: he went out with the head injury, I thought he

474
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: was really really good against Quentin Johnson. Pretty much dominated

475
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: that matchup. Randon the route for Quentin Johnson on that

476
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: one and he almost picked off that. I think he

477
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: actually got hurt on but you know, just really good

478
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: in this game as well. This is what you are

479
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: hoping for, is what you've been looking for out of

480
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: these corners. Once we get into the playoffs, you know,

481
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,719
Speaker 1: flip that switch and be dominant there in the back end.

482
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: And they were dominant. Yeah, they absolutely showed up. And

483
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: that's kind of the performance we thought we were getting

484
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: going back to the summer. Okay, a couple of sneaky

485
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: like good players on defense, and then I'll talk a

486
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: little bit about the offense. Craig Woodson sneaky good game,

487
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Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, tackle for loss early on in this

488
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 1: game or run stuff. I thought he hit well. I

489
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Speaker 1: thought he tackled well in the open field. I thought

490
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: he was aggressive when he needed to be aggressive. He

491
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Speaker 1: took away read on Herbert Scramble playing the deep part

492
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: of the field. I mean, he was really really good

493
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: in this game. And it's really flown under the radar

494
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: with Craig Woodson because of Campbell and Henderson and Wilson

495
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: and all these other rookies that are also contributing. Craig

496
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 1: Woodson's played like every defensive snap this year and he's

497
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: held up. There has been some good and some bad,

498
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: like any rookie. But he's been as good as any

499
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Speaker 1: Patriots rookie, I would say this season, especially considering the

500
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Speaker 1: volume that he's playing at. He started every single game

501
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 1: and he's played like ninety nine percent of the snaps.

502
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 1: I think he deserves a little bit more love. You know,

503
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: maybe doesn't have the he's not the starting left tackle.

504
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: He's not the splashy player that Traveon Henderson is, so

505
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: he doesn't necessarily have those moments. But when you watch

506
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: the film, he's consistently flying around and making plays.

507
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been he's been really good.

508
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: And the fact that he hadn't come off the field.

509
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 2: I think he's played their most defensive snaps, right yeah,

510
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: I mean it's close. It got to be unbelievable what

511
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: they've gotten out of him, and a guy that looks

512
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 2: like he's going to continue to get better.

513
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: So I thought he was.

514
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 2: He had the tackle to blow up the screen right

515
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: yep to Quentin Johnson. I thought it was a big

516
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: play when the Chargers started to move the ball a

517
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 2: little bit. That's the one that stood out to me.

518
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 2: But overall, I'm with you, good game.

519
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, you know, just pulling it up now

520
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: he has played ninety three percent of the defensive snaps,

521
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: that's the highest on the Patriots. And he's played nine

522
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty total snaps, which is also the highest

523
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: on the Patriots. So this is a rookie fourth round

524
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: pick that's played the most defensive snaps on a team

525
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: that's won fifteen games. And I ditch it, nuts. I

526
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: don't think that we talk about it now, No, and

527
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: so I think I just I mean, I just did

528
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Speaker 1: my pfw A.

529
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I assume we're allowed to talk about these publicly.

530
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's okay, You'll be fine.

531
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Speaker 2: I mean I had him as you know, all we're

532
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: doing All Rookie Team too. Yeah, yeah, there's and it's

533
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 2: a strong.

534
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: As wait, you guys vote on way too many.

535
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is the All AFC in All NFC is

536
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: when it starts to slow down a little bit, but cumbersome.

537
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: I like the All Rookie Team. It's kind of cool.

538
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 2: There were like no rookie centers that even played this year,

539
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 2: so that was a little tough, but really good rookie

540
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 2: safety class.

541
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Speaker 1: NICKI min Worry.

542
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 2: Watts, Yeah, Malachi Starks in Baltimore and Woodson's right up

543
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: there with him, and a lot of those guys went

544
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: a lot higher in the draft, but Woodson's right up

545
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: there with him.

546
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was really good. The other sneaky good player

547
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Speaker 1: I thought in this game was Anthony Jennings, who just

548
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: absolutely clocked Justin Herbert. Honestly, I don't know how Justin

549
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: Herbert got up after that one, But I think Anthony Jennings.

550
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: And we'll get to this when we you know a

551
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: little bit more, when we get to some of the

552
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: not so good things from this game. I think Anthony

553
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: Jennings every single time he plays, I feel like he

554
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: makes an impact, whether it's you know, we know he

555
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: can set the edge. You know that he's been able

556
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: to do that his whole career. In this game, I

557
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: thought he got after the pass are a little bit out

558
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: of a couple of pressures at a sack. He was

559
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: really good in this game. So two guys you know

560
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: we know about, you know, the two corners, Milton Williams,

561
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: barb wore, the two linebackers. They were really good. But

562
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: I thought Woodson and Anthony Jennings were also sneaky good

563
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: in this game. So moving over to the offense, I

564
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: I kind of like, look at this game, maybe splitting

565
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: the baby here a little bit with Drake May. I

566
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 1: really thought Drake May played pretty well outside of the turnovers,

567
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: and it wasn't his best game by any means, you know,

568
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: but I would call this more of like a mixed

569
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: bag than a disaster or like a bad game for him.

570
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: You know, still at three hundred and thirty toll yards

571
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: of offense, when you add the scramble yards with the

572
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: passing yards, this is a really good Charger defense. They

573
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: had a really good plan, which we'll talk more about

574
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: in a minute, but you know, you had I look

575
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: at it and say, you know, I think he had

576
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: like three or four elite plays in this game. Obviously,

577
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: the touchdown pass to Henry, the checkdown to Stevenson was

578
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: more like a great catch and run. But still you're

579
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: in your own end zone.

580
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: You know, there's a after just throwing a pick in

581
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: your own.

582
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: Enders and I'm black Blitzer coming right at you in

583
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: your own end zone and you to wherewithal to see

584
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 1: that Stevenson sneaked out of the backfield and there's nobody

585
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: on him, and the ability to dump that off that's

586
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: not you know, Rabel talked about it on Monday, like,

587
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: that's a poised play for a young quarterback in a

588
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: playoff game. The forty two yard are to Booty I

589
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: thought was a great lookoff and throw Henry touch. And

590
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: I mentioned a couple of really good scrambles, you know,

591
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: the thirty seven yard scramble basically gave them three points.

592
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: The eight yard scramble where he shook off a sack

593
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: in the pocket and scrambled for eight yards another good one.

594
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: So I think that there's plenty of like good plays

595
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: that he made in this game. And he outplayed Herbert,

596
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: like he just flat out outplayed justin Herbert. So at

597
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: some point, yeah, we're gonna talk about the turnovers and

598
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about some of the issues that they

599
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: had in this game. But at the end of the day,

600
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: if you outplay the quarterback that's on the other sideline,

601
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna give your team a chance to win most days.

602
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: And that's what Drake May did. He gave him a

603
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: chance to win.

604
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he absolutely did. And that was the big difference

605
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: in this game. You know, there's to me, there's two plays.

606
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: There's a scramble at the end of the first half,

607
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: which gets you to go aheadfield goal, a little bit

608
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: of momentum going into the break, and then obviously touchdown

609
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: pass hunter Henry Drake May did not have his best day,

610
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: but when he needed to make a play, he made

611
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: a play. And sometimes that's quarterback, like you're not gonna

612
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: throw for five hundred yards every game.

613
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: Tom Brady had those games.

614
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, super Bowl fifty three when he needed to make

615
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: the pass to Gronky made it. And Drake May when

616
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: the play was there to be made, he made the

617
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: big plays. And Justin Herbert certainly did not. The first

618
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: snap of the game, he has Latin Conky wide open

619
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 2: for a touchdown and just sees them, yeah, and just

620
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: doesn't throw the balls.

621
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Speaker 1: Yeah, his eyes were down at the rush. Yeah, it

622
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: was not good.

623
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: So I yeah, I thought with May, there were flashes

624
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: of rookie May. There were definitely flash of him as

625
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: a rookie things we maybe haven't seen for a while,

626
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: especially some of the ball security in the pocket stuff.

627
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: But he was trying too much to be a hero, right.

628
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: We were talking about him maybe being a little who

629
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: fired up a little too frazzled in his first playoff game,

630
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: and we've seen him clean that stuff up before it

631
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: looked a lot like some of the mistakes he made

632
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: in that Steelers game.

633
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: And then you know, we put him away.

634
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: We didn't rely see him again. So I trust him

635
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: to clean him upgain he gets a benefit of the

636
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: death there, but he does need to clean them up

637
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: outside of that, especially in the second half once he

638
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: settled down. He had some sprays in the first half.

639
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: I think the one to Austin Hooper was in the

640
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: second one, right, Yeah, but for the most part he

641
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: was much better than the second half. And again I

642
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: just go back to and I said this before the game.

643
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: I didn't need Drake Me to go out there and

644
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: throw for three hundred yards and three touchdowns, and I

645
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: don't think they needed that. You know, I could have

646
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: done without the multiple turnovers. But yeah, he wasn't gonna

647
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: have his best. He didn't need to have his best

648
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: game now when you're gonna even have it eventually, this

649
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 2: leak probably isn't it either.

650
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: Again, ball security is going to be huge.

651
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: But just needed him to make the plays that were

652
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: there to be made, and he more or less did

653
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: that when they needed him to do it.

654
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: It just, uh, you know, when you when you turn

655
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: the ball over twice and you put the ball on

656
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: the ground a third time. It's obviously you can't sit

657
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: here and say it was his best game, right. You

658
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: know that that type of stuff is going to get

659
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: you beat a lot of the time. But at the

660
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, even his bad games,

661
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: he still makes some really big time plays. And if that,

662
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: if this is what a Air quotes bad Drake May

663
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: game is, now, yeah, they are going to be in

664
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: really good shape. Like if this is what it looks

665
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: like when he plays poorly by his standards, then they're

666
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: they're going to be tough to beat for a while.

667
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: Because this was still plenty good enough to win this game,

668
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I think that they they would

669
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: take it. So we'll get to the turnovers, you know, obviously,

670
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: when we get to the stuff to get to beat.

671
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: But that that was my take on Drake May in

672
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: this game. I really didn't think he played that bad.

673
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: And I understand, you know that that might be whistling

674
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: past the graveyard a little bit, but I think when

675
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: you really start to look at some of the throws

676
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: that he made in this one, I mean the touchdown

677
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: pass to Henry's picture perfect. You know, that is an

678
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: elite perfect throw that you know he makes on that one.

679
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: But I also thought the throw to Booty on the

680
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: forty two yard completion, He's looking right, you know, the

681
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: end drops out, which they were doing all game to

682
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: drop out underneath Digs and he they fall into like

683
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: a cover three with the single high safety in the

684
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: middle of the field, So he looks right at Diggs

685
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: to He's not trying to throw to Digs. He's trying

686
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: to move the safety out of the middle of the

687
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: field because they had like the double seams, you know,

688
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: the wheel and the seam route from the tight end

689
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: on the left hand side. So if he can move

690
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: that safety out of the middle of the field, then

691
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: he's going to be two on one in the outside corner.

692
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: So he comes on to Digs, you know, comes off

693
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: Digs and gives that little you know ball fake to

694
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: the safety, gets the safety and the corner on the

695
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: other side of the field to turn their hips the

696
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: wrong way, and it comes all the way back across

697
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: the field and throws the ball outside the numbers to Booty.

698
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: You know, just by air distance, that's a forty one

699
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: yard throw, you know, like that's not an easy throw

700
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: to make. So I think in general, just I thought

701
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: that Drake may had a lot of really good plays

702
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: in this game.

703
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny, you know, I just brought up that

704
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: Steelers game. I remember coming in here after the Steelers

705
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: game and doing a show with the Andrews as well,

706
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: and talking a lot about how well they played. Yeah,

707
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: and we kind of acknowledge, Hey, they just turned the

708
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: ball over five times. It's a little ridiculous to talk

709
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: about the good, right, but there was enough good. This

710
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: kind of feels like that and wouldn't like I won't lie.

711
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: I walked away from that show a little bit like

712
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: I was pretty homery in me five turnover game and

713
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: hyping them up, But like I legitimately felt.

714
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: Encouraged, and we also didn't know well, so this was

715
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 1: my point.

716
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: This is my point, Like I legitimately felt encouraged after

717
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: that game, and I felt a little weird that I

718
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: felt encouraged.

719
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: But I felt encouraged, and it turned out I should.

720
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: Have trusted my eyes because they didn't lose a game

721
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: for two months after that.

722
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: This felt a little like that Steelers game.

723
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: We're like, I feel a little weird being as encouraged, says,

724
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: I was about the offense, but I feel how I

725
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: did after the Steelers game. So this time I'm going

726
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: to trust my eyes and say I feel you know, that.

727
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean there's not work to be done.

728
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: There is, like you got to clean it up in

729
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: the pocket, especially this week with the ball security.

730
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: But I think there was more to like than.

731
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 4: To not like.

732
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: So a couple more positives and then we should move

733
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: on because we're already thirty minutes in. Uh. Ramondra Stevenson

734
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: just continues to be awesome. Vermondre Stevenson is just playing

735
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: really really good football now for about six weeks, I

736
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: would say maybe longer. You know, the forty eight years

737
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: football of his career. The forty eight yard checkdown is

738
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: a is a great play to get off the goal

739
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: line and completely flip the field. A huge, huge play

740
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: in this game. Uh sneaky underrated part of that play.

741
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams. That's a great blot on Derwin James. A

742
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: couple of big blocks by the rookie. We didn't mention

743
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,479
Speaker 1: it on Drake May's pass. The Travon Henderson put Okay, yeah,

744
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: we are all a great play. It's a great play.

745
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: Serves credit for that.

746
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: Everybodycial gout that was struggling any pass protection. It was

747
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: a great play. But like all, we all have to

748
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: sound smart. But I mentioned, yeah, that is everybody wants

749
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: to go. But I'm not on the moment that the

750
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: quarterback is falling backwards making a throw over one of

751
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: the best safeties in football like that. But what doesn't

752
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: happen with that? What about that blitz pick up? I'm

753
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: not trying to discredit on I was still is trying

754
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: to tell you that.

755
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: I was still talking about the blitz pickup to Matt

756
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: Dolo as Hunter Henry crossed the goal line.

757
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: I was I was going to that Blitz pick up.

758
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: Whatever happened, You have a great eye, good jick you.

759
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: I'm very smart. Reminder of Stevenson. Really good in this game. Again,

760
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry really good in this game. The twenty eight

761
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: yard touchdown obviously goes without saying. The nineteen yard third

762
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: down conversion that he had where he sat down in

763
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: the middle of the field on third and thirteen. Sneaky

764
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: big play. Sneaky big play. They were scrimmaging, I want

765
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: to say from their own twelve yard line on that

766
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 1: play it was third and thirteen. If the Chargers forcing

767
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: incomplete pass for as a sack whatever, Now you're punting

768
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 1: off your own goal line. Right, the field position completely changes.

769
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry gets that nineteen yard completion, they move the chains.

770
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: Booty gets the forty two yard completion. I think a

771
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: player two later. Now Drake may fumbled at the end

772
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: of the drive and they didn't get points off the drive,

773
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: but even the field position, in the field position, you know,

774
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: he fumbles inside the red zone, so it completely changed

775
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: in the field position.

776
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: I was the one where we've heard them talk a

777
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: lot throughout the season, but including into this game about

778
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: getting the first first down.

779
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and how much better they feel after they get

780
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: me big this first first down. Yep.

781
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: And that was a great example of that.

782
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, really really keep playing this game. Lastly, on the goods,

783
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: I thought the right side of the offensive line and

784
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: brad Berry were pretty good in this game. I only

785
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: had those three guys with two pressures combined between the

786
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: three of them, one each for on winning when Bradbury.

787
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: Moses had a clean sheet in this game against Kalil Mack,

788
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: who might be washed, but still Khalil Mack is going

789
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: to be in the NFL, you know, the Pro Football

790
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame once he retires. So I thought, they,

791
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: you know, we'll get to the rookies on the left side,

792
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: who obviously had a rough game, but the right side

793
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: of the line plus Bradberry continue to just be really,

794
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 1: really solid for this team, which I think is important.

795
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: It helps them in so many different ways where you know,

796
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: if this is continues to be a little bit of

797
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: a slog, a little bit of a struggle for the

798
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: rookies on the left hand side, if you can trust

799
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: on Whnu and Bradbury to be one on one back side,

800
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: you know, on the right hand side, and you can

801
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: then slide the line a lot to the left and

802
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: try to help out Campbell and Jared Wilson, that can

803
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: really go a long way. So you know, if we

804
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: have to chip on that side, if you have to

805
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: have Bradbury open to the left side, I feel pretty

806
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: good about trusting Moses and on Whnue to hold up.

807
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: Now Will Anderson rushes over the right tackle this week,

808
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: so maybe don't put Moses on an island too much,

809
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: don't leave him out to dry. But he's held his

810
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: own in most of these matchups and been really really good,

811
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: I thought on when it was solid as well, so

812
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: not a complete disaster from the offensive line. The pressure

813
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: rate was honestly was manageable for most of the game.

814
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: But Drake may held the ball a little bit in

815
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: this game, and I thought their left side kind of

816
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: got its lunch. But that other than that, I yeah,

817
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it was really that horrible. I think

818
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: it was probably around thirty thirty five percent pressure rate

819
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: in this game, which is manageable. Anything below thirty five

820
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: to forty percent is usually okay, especially with a mobile quarterback.

821
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 2: And the left side hadn't played together for seven weeks.

822
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we can just talk about that now. Yeah,

823
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: we can get into that now, Like we'll see.

824
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: All because I beat you guys are tweeting me during

825
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: the game, like, yeah, well Cambell needs to be better. Yeah,

826
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: I'm not starting a conversation about moving him back to

827
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 2: guard off or moving him to guard off one game,

828
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: but calm down with that.

829
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: We also, like, you know, and I'm not trying to

830
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: make excuses, but all week long we talked about two Lee,

831
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: Tou Aplatu and O way like real Mack. Yeah, well,

832
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: cleaning Mack was on the right side and did nothing.

833
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: But we talked about those two guys all week long

834
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: that they're really really good players. Like I'm just going

835
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: to call him tu Lee because I can't say his

836
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: freaking last Yeme Tully. Like we talked all week that

837
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: this was one of the most underrated pass preshus in football.

838
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: He was like top five and pressures, top five in sacks,

839
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: like this was a really good football player.

840
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 5: Uh.

841
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: Oh way, it was another guy that you know, we

842
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: highlighted and said was going to be a problem, and

843
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: they were. You know, they were disruptive, no doubt about it. Uh.

844
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing that I'm seeing right now

845
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: with Will Campbell that has me small sea concern is

846
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: he's getting walked back into the quarterback a lot, you know,

847
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: is his anchor. Uh and his issues, you know again,

848
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: are are there against power, you know if you want

849
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: to play that you know thing about him being a

850
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: tackle long term if you want to go there. You know,

851
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: when you started talking about establishing first meaningful contact with

852
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: your length, you know, guys like Oway who have long arm,

853
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: they're going to get into his chest plate faster than

854
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: he can get into their chest plate. So that's what happens,

855
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 1: you know, and then he's gonna have to get He's

856
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: going to have to get himself into uh the you know,

857
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: shave and the ability to anchor after that happens, because

858
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: he's not going to get his hands on guys first

859
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: for what's not worth.

860
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: Andrew's assessment of that, if I remember correctly, was basically

861
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: it's less of an arm ranked thing arm length thing

862
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: and more of an approach thing in that he has

863
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: the ability to set his anchor quicker, but he's not

864
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: because he's trying to win other ways. And it might

865
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: just be a thing whereas you grow in the league,

866
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: you got to understand that, Hey, like you don't have

867
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 2: as much time to wait and get any your anchor.

868
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: He's just do it right away. He's probably trying to

869
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: catch guys more than he is trying to set out

870
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: and be aggressive against them, which I can understand. But

871
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: when you face like really good power rushers, especially like

872
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: Tullia is like you, I think that him going out

873
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: and getting the guy is probably the better approach. He's

874
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: going to learn that.

875
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like, as much as we talked about

876
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: Drake may At being his first playoff game and is

877
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 2: he going to have nerves? Where's he going to be

878
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: at mentally? They had I think thirty five guys playing

879
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: in their first playoff game, and the left side of

880
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: the line was two of them. Yeah, so I you know,

881
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: you hope that one they're healthier next week and we'll

882
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: see what happens with Jared Wilson if he's playing, but

883
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 2: you know, another week removed from the injuries injury for

884
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: the knee injury for Campbell, and then maybe just hey,

885
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: all right, you have a playoff game under your belt.

886
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: You kind of got beat, you know, can you bounce

887
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: back and subtle it?

888
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: I thought that he had some issues with power against

889
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb two in Week eighteen. That kind of flew

890
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: under the radar because that game wasn't really all that

891
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: competitive in the second half. So it's something to monitor.

892
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm with the Andrews. I don't think

893
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: that this is like a fatal flaw by any means

894
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: for Will Campbell yet, but it's certainly something that has

895
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: popped up, probably more consistently than him getting beat to

896
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: the edge, is him losing the power in his rookie season.

897
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things that go into that,

898
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's approach, you know, where how he's

899
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: catching guys, how he's you know, setting, whether it's you know,

900
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: getting in a little bit more in the weight room,

901
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: you know, and getting that that that core and the

902
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: legs and the and the booty you know, in better shape. Like,

903
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: there's a million different ways to go about that. So

904
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: I'm not super concerned with Jared Wilson. Uh, you know,

905
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: we don't have to labor the point and in terms

906
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: of their performance, I just I guess I'm just a

907
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: little confused as to why this isn't the more of

908
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: a conversation with Ben Brown and maybe we'll get some

909
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: more it's not, Yeah, I because I thought on Friday

910
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: last week, Rabel was pretty quick to shut that down.

911
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: Okay, so last week I understand why it wasn't. You

912
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: now have a whole other game of evidence it definitely

913
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: wasn't last week. So you're saying it should have been

914
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: more last week.

915
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it should be more of a conversation period.

916
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: I think now after that game it has to be.

917
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: It might be, but I just feel like my point

918
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make is that Jared Wilson's time will come.

919
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: Like Jared Wilson, I think is a starting caliber talent

920
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: in this league. You know, I think we both feel

921
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: like it's probably more at center than it is at guard.

922
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: But either way, like he's I think he's a starting

923
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: caliber talent in the NFL. But now you're in one

924
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: game season mode, like this is the tournament. It's one

925
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: and done. And if we go out, you know, on

926
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon and watch Jared Wilson go up against Sheldon

927
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: Rankins and he gets his butt whipped, you might be

928
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: going home like that might that might decide a game.

929
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 4: You know.

930
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: And I think there's a difference between getting guys experience

931
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: and you do that during the regular season. Fine, you know,

932
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: you do that moving forward with Jared Wilson. Fine, now

933
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: you gotta you know, this is the playoffs, Like this

934
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: is a big difference than just like we want to

935
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: get these two rookies feet wet, and you know, the

936
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: Week eight against the Tennessee you know, and I think

937
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: these pass rushes that they're gonna face the rest of

938
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: the way is going to be a gauntlet. You know,

939
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: the Chargers have a really good front. The Texans have

940
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 1: a really good front. If you win, it's gonna Befalo

941
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: or Denver, who both also have really good fronts. If

942
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: you win that game, it's going to be Seattle or

943
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: the Rams or whichever team comes out of the NLC football.

944
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,479
Speaker 1: This is this is not you know, this is trial

945
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: by fire for these two rookies. The last thing I'd

946
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: say on Ben Brown, who I'm kind of standing for

947
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: right now, he's just bigger. He's just a bigger body,

948
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: and I think that there's something to be said. You

949
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: can't teach size for that element of it. And also,

950
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: like next to Campbell, who is an arrow tackle, you

951
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: know he's not. He's more linearly built. He's an arrow.

952
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: We did the whole arm length and what wing span

953
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: thing all draft season, So having a guy next to

954
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: him that is a little bit wider and takes up

955
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more space might just help him out

956
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: a little bit, especially in the run game when you

957
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: start to build surfaces with double teams and stuff like that. Like,

958
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: I just I think that this conversation, I'm shocked at

959
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: Vrabel was so dismissive about it last Friday. I think

960
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,959
Speaker 1: he was because he didn't want it to leave any doubt.

961
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: He didn't want like it to sound like he was

962
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: wishy washy about it. I expect him to be asked

963
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: about it again today and maybe, you know, it's not

964
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 1: gonna be me, but maybe somebody else can like kind

965
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: of ask him why, you know, like what walling to

966
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: kind of give a little bit more color as to

967
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: why that is in the bigger conversation, so that that's

968
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: the the rookie lineman, first ever playoff game for two rookies.

969
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to kill him for it. I just

970
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: think that, you know, it goes back to, like, you know,

971
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: we always bring up the Ted Krris twenty twenty one

972
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: situation because Mike on went to a better player than

973
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: Ted Krris. Probably was he a better player for that combination? No,

974
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe that's just the case with Ben

975
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: brand I with what works next thing here on my list.

976
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: Continuing on the offense in the first half, especially the

977
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: receivers separation. They hesitate to use the word separation because

978
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: I think that's a buzzword that gets people all hot

979
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: and bothered. But the Chargers covered well, especially in the

980
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: first half of this game. The Patriots looked at maybe

981
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: a little bit confused by the match coverages specifically and

982
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: how to get open against those. And then the biggest

983
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: thing to me though, as we move forward, Stefan Diggs

984
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: that got treated like a number one wide receiver. Yep,

985
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: they threw the kitchen sink of double teams, brackets, guys

986
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: dropping off the line of scrimmage into his area the field,

987
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: and they took him out of the game. They schematically

988
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: took Digs out. Now, it's cool that the Patriots have

989
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: a dictating coverage, dictating wide receiver. That's a good thing.

990
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: But you saw what especially early when you know May

991
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: is looking for Digs on third down and stuff like that.

992
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: You saw what it kind of did to their passing

993
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: game early on in this game. You know, for completion

994
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: rate at halftime, the lowest completion rate in a half

995
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: by Drake May all season long. And to me, it's

996
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: stemmed from the fact that the Chargers came out and

997
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: said Diggs isn't beating us, and they kind of, I

998
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: don't know, it kind of threw them off a little bit.

999
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: On the one hand, I'm excited that they have a

1000
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: receiver that's dictating coverage like that. On the other hand,

1001
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 1: and it happened a little bit more in the second half.

1002
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: You know, the other guys need to step up there, Booty, Henry,

1003
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams, Pop Douglas, the Backs, like, you don't have

1004
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: Mac Collins, so you have to it has to come

1005
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: from that group. You know, maybe Mac Collins if they

1006
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: win this weekend, will be back for the AMCY Championship game.

1007
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: But we're getting ahead of ourselves. They don't have them

1008
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: on Sunday. So if the Texans come out and they

1009
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: take out Digs too, then they need these other guys

1010
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: to be able to win their one on one matchups.

1011
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 4: This is what it is.

1012
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: How long have we talked about this.

1013
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: We're finally here getting a guy that dictates coverage and

1014
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 2: you know, look takes his had games in his career

1015
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 2: where he's been a coverage dictator, has gotten that attention.

1016
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: He still produced at a high level, because that's what

1017
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: the great ones. Do You think teams aren't dictating coverage

1018
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: like justin Jefferson. Of course they are, so you know,

1019
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 2: but at thirty two years old, does he have one

1020
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: more of those games in him? Remember it's a revenge

1021
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 2: game for him too. The Texans said, thanks, no, thanks,

1022
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: after his knee injury. We saw what he did to

1023
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: Buffalo earlier at this point, so you know it'd be

1024
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: great if he could just do that. And even if

1025
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: he does, you still this is this is what a

1026
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: high level offense is. There's gonna be attention on one

1027
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: pass catcher and even if that guy gets going, they

1028
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: can't take the attention off.

1029
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: That guy because he's too good.

1030
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 2: So now it's you have other Kayshawan Boody, Pop Douglas,

1031
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 2: Kyle Williams, Hunter, Henry, the running backs like you have

1032
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 2: chances to be one on one and win. Are you

1033
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: going to take advantage of those chances? So you're gonna

1034
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: win one on one because you're like Kayshawn Boody probably

1035
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: not gonna see a safety over the top as much

1036
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: as he usually does if they're putting that attention on

1037
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: Stephan Dick. Same for Kyle Williams, not gonna see that

1038
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: safety over the top of the deep speed Pop Douglas.

1039
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: They're not gonna be able to bracket him, and he's

1040
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: going to have some of those off routes where he's

1041
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 2: gonna have a side where he can go. He's gonna

1042
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: be able to win leverage without having to worry about

1043
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: a defender lurking things like that. So it's exciting because

1044
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 2: how long have we been talking about the coverage dictating

1045
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 2: wide and here we are. Now you just must lost

1046
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: them a game, but here we are. Well, So just

1047
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 2: because that guy's out there doesn't mean you're gonna win.

1048
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: Gonna win, you got to now take advantage of it.

1049
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 2: But it's an adjust it's an adjustment. I would think

1050
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna hammer this week, but it's been

1051
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: a while because even Edelman, as good as he was,

1052
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: just by nature of where he played, not as much

1053
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: of a coverage dictator.

1054
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that it is different. And you know,

1055
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: this is what you saw with Digs, Like it was

1056
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: a lot of brackets are like guys dropping off when

1057
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,479
Speaker 1: he was inside the formation because it's easier to double

1058
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 1: guys when they're in the slot versus when he's out wide.

1059
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: Uh so you know they were able to kind of

1060
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: bracket him in. You know, they had like tire tart,

1061
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: like all three hundred and forty pounds of them was

1062
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: dropping off the line of scrimmage, like right into slant windows.

1063
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: You know, May's fumble everybody's killing him four at the

1064
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: end of the game. That wasn't bad time to fumble,

1065
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: for sure. They just drop the end right underneath Digs.

1066
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: He wants to throw it a Digs on the slant.

1067
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: That's supposed to be a quick throw. You see the

1068
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: tackles both, Yeah, and he's and he's trying to throw

1069
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: it to Digs on the slant and the end just

1070
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: drops right underneath it. He's gonna throw it right to

1071
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: him if he throws the ball, so he's got to

1072
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: hold the ball. Now he's got to protect the ball

1073
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: after that. But you know, these are the things that

1074
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: they were doing. Uh, the Chargers were, to their credit,

1075
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: and I don't think the Texans dial it up quite

1076
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: as much as the Chargers do. But they did double

1077
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: DK a little bit on Monday night, and so, you know,

1078
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: different types.

1079
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: Of receivers kind of help them take DK out of

1080
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 2: the game.

1081
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 1: But yeah, but they had some dedicated doubles on TK. Now,

1082
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: different types of receivers. But the Texans do not, you know,

1083
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: I know, we'll get to the Texans more in a

1084
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: in the second hour, but the Texans don't travel their

1085
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: corners like Stingley is not going to travel with digs,

1086
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: but they will bracket receivers when it's not stingly right.

1087
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 1: When he doesn't line up over Stingley, they will send

1088
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: brackets to either you know, they'll slot or lassiter or

1089
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. So that was I did

1090
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: not think that there was a lot of open receivers

1091
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: in the first half of this game, and that was

1092
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: to me. That's not to say sit here and say

1093
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: they don't have enough at wide receiver. I think that's

1094
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: more about scheme, that's more about execution, that's more about

1095
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 1: the Chargers having a really good game plan. I don't

1096
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: think that receiver separation has been a big issue for

1097
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: this team this year. I think they've actually had plenty

1098
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: of open receivers, as Drake May's MVP season can attest to.

1099
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't say that this is something that's been

1100
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: an issue for them this year. Last thing on the bads,

1101
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: I just didn't think Carol Blandie looked very good in

1102
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: this game. I just didn't really have very many impactful

1103
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: plays for him. I didn't register a pressure, didn't register stuff.

1104
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: He had a good tackle when what's his name Vidale

1105
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: picked up the fumble and he kind of saved a

1106
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: bigger play there. But if I'm the Patriots, similar to

1107
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: the conversation we were having with Jared Wilson, you know

1108
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: Anthony Jennings and Elijah Ponder.

1109
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 2: I think I've been playing for Jennings played really well,

1110
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: but Jennings played really well.

1111
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: I just wonder how many of of Landry's snaps they

1112
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: start to take away and give to those guys.

1113
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 2: Or is that where maybe Darryl Taylor comes in.

1114
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: You're very get into this Darryl Taylor thing.

1115
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a guy that was like he

1116
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: was a roster I don't really understand why Houston.

1117
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: Cut him because they have like seventeen pass right.

1118
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: That's true, Okay that yeah, they have a ton of

1119
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: death there. But like he's he's not a guy that's like, oh,

1120
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: he's kind of a fringe roster player. He's going to

1121
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: bounce around practice quite He's play like he's been on teams.

1122
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 2: He's a sixteen seventeen game player. I just feel he

1123
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 2: played a full season the last four years, and then

1124
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 2: this year in Houston he was buried a little bit.

1125
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: I just would be really surprised if, like you get

1126
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: a guy off the street and then he's immediately playing

1127
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: snaps over Landry Jennings and Ponder who have been here

1128
00:52:59,320 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: all year.

1129
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: So I just go to rapport saying, like highlighting the

1130
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: possibility of elevating him.

1131
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sure Darryl Taylor's agent really appreciates that. Fair enough, Uh,

1132
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: let's do the bads or the stuff that gets you beat.

1133
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: That was all I had for the bads. I mean defensively,

1134
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what you want me to say,

1135
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: there's really no but there's no bads. Defensively they were great,

1136
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: just not a.

1137
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 2: Little more consistent pressure in the first half.

1138
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 6: That was it.

1139
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 2: I just didn't really get the pressure, but the secondary.

1140
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: Held up so it was fine.

1141
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then that's all I had.

1142
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: Stuff that gets you beat. The turnovers obviously, Drake may

1143
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: you know the tipped one. You always kind of give

1144
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: the quarterback a tiny bit of a pass on tip.

1145
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: The bubbles bothered me more than the past. Yeah, now

1146
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: that the tip balls bothered me still a little bit,

1147
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: because like change you can change arm angles, you can

1148
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: move six five yeah, like yeah, but like Tart is

1149
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: also a big freaking dude with saying like when you're

1150
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: six five, like get it over the line, right, Yeah,

1151
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: I would be really interested to see what like the

1152
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: strong correlation between quarterback height and tip passes, because that's

1153
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: obviously conventional wisdom. But there are a lot of tall quarterbacks.

1154
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 2: That get a lot of bad Is there a site

1155
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: that separates Is there a database that separates bat it

1156
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 2: at the line versus the BFF?

1157
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: Does it? Off the top of my head, I can

1158
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 1: think of a couple of guys that are usually near

1159
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: the top of the league that are tall. So I

1160
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: think it's more about balls here we go arm angles,

1161
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: you know, knowing So Trevor Lawrence was number one this year.

1162
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: He is tall. Yeah, he's like six four sixty six six.

1163
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 2: Then you have Caleb Williams, Yeah, likex six to one.

1164
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: Jared Goff's like, what six three Jared Goffs over tall,

1165
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 2: he's he is over the threshold. Sam Darnold also the

1166
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 2: shorter side.

1167
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: No he's not.

1168
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: He's like sixty four six three six three six, He's

1169
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 2: in the intermediate.

1170
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: We're talking of bronicks. If we're measuring, like, you know,

1171
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: do they do they pass the thresholds, We're going to

1172
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: say six five and plus is tall? All are saying

1173
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to know when you go to the draft

1174
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: and you say, what's the threshold for quarterback height? Yeah,

1175
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: Lawrence and Darnold and Goff definitely passed what I'm saying.

1176
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: There may be there may be a difference between the

1177
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: guys who are at the threshold and the guys who've

1178
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 2: passed the threshold. So I'm gonna say six five and

1179
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: up is tall. Yeah, we'll call it six three six

1180
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: fours threshold. Six two and below is short?

1181
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:32,959
Speaker 1: Is that fair? Fine?

1182
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 2: So we have tall, short, medium, medium, short.

1183
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: How tall is Dak? Doctor? Dak's on the shorter side, Dak?

1184
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: So Dak is short? Ours for JJ McCarthy, Yeah, JJ

1185
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: McCarthy's okay, he's six three, So he's just in that medium,

1186
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: justin fields short, short, Bryce young, short, Patrick Mahomes.

1187
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 2: I think Patrick Mahomes only six to one, right, six

1188
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 2: to two. Yeah, So it's there's only one guy there

1189
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: that's tall. There's some guys that are average. There's only

1190
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: one guy that's tall, but he just happened to be

1191
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 2: at the top of the list.

1192
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: Due Lawrence, Goff and Darnold are good enough for me.

1193
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, like like that's that's enough. For me

1194
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: to say, like where it was Drake May in this

1195
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: It's not just a super short quarterback problem. Drake May

1196
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: was tied first seventeenth. Like, it's not like this list

1197
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 1: is like Kyler Murray.

1198
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 2: Okay, so I was gonna say, uh, you know, here's

1199
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: here to Drake May was tied with Russell Wilson. This

1200
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 2: is an interesting grouping of quarterbacks. Yeah, Kyler Murray, Yeah,

1201
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 2: Mac Jones, yeah, c J. Stroud, Drake and Justin Herbert.

1202
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: So you have two talls, you have two talls, actually

1203
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: three talls. Daniel Jones is tall, right, yeah, three talls,

1204
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 2: one short and two mediums.

1205
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: So again, like, I don't is there a correlation. I

1206
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: think it's a little bit of correlation, but maybe not

1207
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 1: very structure. Some nerd has done this, Stundy. I'll look

1208
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: it up late. Yes, I left battle balls this year

1209
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: and I thought he did. So that was the pick

1210
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: the fumbles to me. I thought he was kind of

1211
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: I think fools the wrong word like as good scheme

1212
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: by the Chargers in both instances. The first one, they

1213
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: I said, going into the into the game, the Chargers

1214
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 1: played like a very little man coverage.

1215
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, one way you know, who's tied for the

1216
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 2: fewest rock thirty Yeah, sure, yes, this one, saying uh uh.

1217
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: The first one, the Chargers played very few snaps of

1218
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: man coverage as a defense they play on first and

1219
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: second down. They were only playing man coverage on nine

1220
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: percent of their first and second downs this year, which

1221
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: is the lowest in the league. On that first fumble,

1222
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: it was second down. They played man, and I think

1223
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: it du like it duped him a little bit because

1224
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: he has Henderson opening the flat against man. He's waiting

1225
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: for Diggs. He thinks that Diggs is just going to

1226
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: sit down in a little curl window on his own

1227
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: coverage and they end up getting man.

1228
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 7: Now.

1229
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: Campbell gets beat off the left hand side and it

1230
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: was too quick for him to go from one to two.

1231
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: But if he had started on Henderson, he would have

1232
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: just completed the ball in the flat to Henderson. But

1233
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: I think that he was expecting zone. They played man.

1234
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: The second one, they dropped the end out and underneath Digs.

1235
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: He wanted Digs on the quick game. On the slant,

1236
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: they dropped the end out. It wasn't there. He had

1237
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: to hold the ball in both instances. I just felt

1238
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: like he tried to be a hero. He tried to

1239
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: hold the ball too long in the pocket and make

1240
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: a throw from a muddy or congested pocket, and the

1241
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: rush collapsed on him too quickly. Yeah, and games like

1242
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: that when it's six three or three to three for

1243
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: most of the game, and games like Sunday against the Texans,

1244
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: a sacket is better than anything else in that situation, right,

1245
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: Like a sack is a fine outcome, even if you're

1246
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: on your own side of the field. Punting is a

1247
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: lot better than a fumble recovery touchdown field position, right.

1248
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: And the one that he fumbled at the end of

1249
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: the game was so unnecessary. And then on top of that,

1250
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: it bounced like straight up in the air and almost

1251
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: went right to a charger for a fumble six Like

1252
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: that was this close to being a fumble return for

1253
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: a touchdown. So these are just like the little things

1254
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: that it's so hard to analyze with him because he's

1255
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: such a good playmaker that you don't want to take

1256
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: the gunslinger out completely, right, But in these types of games,

1257
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: especially when you have a lead late in the game

1258
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: like they did on Sunday night, you can't fumble there.

1259
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: You just can't put the ball on the ground, take

1260
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: the sack, punt it, playfield position, win the game.

1261
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 8: Like that.

1262
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: That's just all it is. But did you have any

1263
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: other thoughts on that. I don't know, just we I

1264
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: think it's encouraging that.

1265
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 2: We talked about it earlier in the year that these

1266
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: were issues and he turned her in. When I say

1267
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 2: he him, Josh McDaniels, Mike Rabel, Ashton Grant, like they.

1268
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: Got it fixed. He really how many of those fumbles

1269
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: did he have after this Dealers game this year? Not many?

1270
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 7: Was two?

1271
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is this is something that when

1272
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: he plays poorly, it's usually fumbles. It's not usually like

1273
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: he's only thrown multiple interceptions. I think in one game

1274
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: in his entire career. I think it was as true.

1275
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: I think it's against the Titans last year. The the uh,

1276
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: the interceptions are usually not the issue.

1277
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 2: Right, what I'm saying like, he's also he's had games

1278
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: like this and cleaned it up and put those issues

1279
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 2: away for a long span. Yeah, right, And so I

1280
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 2: think he deserves the benefit of the doubt to do again.

1281
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 2: Oh he has only throw Oh no, wait, that's this

1282
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 2: year I.

1283
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: Thought he had. I'm pretty I know you're right, Yeah, No,

1284
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: we had too Houston game his first career Okay, so

1285
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: besides his first career start, it was dead. Is a

1286
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: little relevant to this week? No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit, a lot less than people think

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Speaker 2: it is, but a little bit.

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Speaker 1: It just like the Chargers last year was not relevant

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Speaker 1: to the Chargers last week. The Texans last year is

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Speaker 1: not relevant to the Texans this week.

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Speaker 2: Well, Anderson was damn good in that game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So that's that's the Chargers recap. We're gonna spend

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Speaker 1: You know they have great snowblowers. They're official snowblower of

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. I live in an apartment. I

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Speaker 1: gonna lie, but you know, Tyota, I'll take I'll take

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Speaker 1: These people have been waiting, and then we'll do our

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Speaker 1: Texans preview here. Uh, if I can get this master work, Hello,

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Speaker 1: there we go. All right, Patty is a nack on.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Patty? Patty? Hey, good morning.

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Speaker 12: I got a lot to unpact. I make it quick.

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Speaker 12: The first things first they are playing with house money

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Speaker 12: with me. I think made that on every single one

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Speaker 12: of his promises in his first season, which is crazy.

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Speaker 12: In his opening press conference, I said, going then to

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Speaker 12: this game and to the Chargers game, that I think

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Speaker 12: I said to myself. I didn't say this really to

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Speaker 12: anybody else, but I said to myself, I think this

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Speaker 12: team can win even if they lose the turnover battle

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Speaker 12: if it's minus one. This coming game, I think we're

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Speaker 12: gonna if we're even I don't know that we win.

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Speaker 12: I think we're gonna have to at least get one

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Speaker 12: turnover off these guys, or win the turnover battle by

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Speaker 12: plus one.

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Speaker 8: At least.

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 12: I think we can test these guys deep. I think

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Speaker 12: we should be able to bootleg out to Daniel Hunter's side.

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Speaker 12: I wouldn't do it with Will Anderson because he's too complete,

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Speaker 12: but player and Evan I know. I give Alex a

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Speaker 12: lot of love on the show. I got to give

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Speaker 12: you somebody, so I want you to shine. I want

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Speaker 12: you to tell me two things. One deceased cut of

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Speaker 12: a similar game plan that Joshua employee like they played

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Speaker 12: against in Super Bowl forty nine. I know they had

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Speaker 12: Michael Bennett, they didn't really have too many other game

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Speaker 12: wreckers on the defeat defensive line and what are what

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Speaker 12: do you think are going to be the best concept

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Speaker 12: past concepts? Sorry to beat this Houston defense. I'll take

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Speaker 12: it off there. Thanks, guys.

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Speaker 2: Can I go back to somebody said at the beginning

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Speaker 2: real quick, because I just think it's an interesting point

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Speaker 2: And this isn't to pick on Patty. He just said

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Speaker 2: something that I've heard this week that I want to differentiate.

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Speaker 2: He mentioned that Vrabel followed through on all the promises

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Speaker 2: he made in his introductory press conference. Those weren't promises,

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Speaker 2: those are pillars and they were objectives, right, And I

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Speaker 2: just I want to point this out because I think

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Speaker 2: it's so core to understanding what Mike Vrabel's trying to establish.

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Speaker 2: He didn't go out there and say that stuff to

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Speaker 2: be braggadocious. Yeah, he didn't go out there and say

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Speaker 2: that stuff to say, I like, we're going to the AFCAS,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna win the AFC's because we're knowing the paida.

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Speaker 2: Because that he's just setting a baseline expectation. Because when

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Speaker 2: he says that, as you know, he set it as

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Speaker 2: a goal and he gave them something to reach. The

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Speaker 2: goal wasn't necessarily to get it done your one. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure they're glad to do it. But you know, it's

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Speaker 2: not like the idea that it's a promise.

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Speaker 1: They were goals. They're they're not even goals, they're pillars.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's pillars.

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Speaker 1: Like the team identity poster. Those are pillars, right, I

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Speaker 1: think for infinished that's the piller. I think winning the

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Speaker 1: division is in some ways a pillar. Like I don't know.

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Speaker 2: When I hear people say like, Okay, he fulfilled the promise,

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Speaker 2: it implies finality to it. Yeah, there's no finality to this.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully there shouldn't be. But like I just, I don't

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Speaker 2: know when I hear it like promise kept. Like I just,

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Speaker 2: I understand, I think it under sells what they're building.

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Speaker 2: So no offense to Patty, Yeah, I just I've heard

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Speaker 2: a couple of people phrase it that way. No, he

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Speaker 2: would like if if he had to go up and

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Speaker 2: give a state of the Patriots press conference, kind of

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Speaker 2: the same kind of press conference after this year, Hey, Mike,

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Speaker 2: what are your goals, what are your pillars, what are

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Speaker 2: the objectives? I don't think he would change a single

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Speaker 2: He probably wouldn't say we're not good enough to take

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Speaker 2: advantage of bad football, well, because they clearly are now.

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Speaker 1: Well in January they weren't different roster. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So like he might not say that part now, But

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Speaker 2: like if he had to go give that press conference

1442
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Speaker 2: today and answer the same questions, really not much is

1443
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Speaker 2: going to change. And if he had to do that

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01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 2: every year, I don't think much is gonna change. I

1445
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: don't think it becomes I don't I don't think the

1446
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 2: goal swings up. I don't think the goal swings down. Like, Okay,

1447
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: we did this box check. I think it's for each

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01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,560
Speaker 2: individual year. This is what we're gonna set. Is the

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Speaker 2: expectation we're going to reach it. It's not a promise.

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Speaker 2: It's like you said, it's an objective and it's a

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Speaker 2: repeatable objective.

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Speaker 1: All right, Lucas is in man, what's up? Lucas? Lucas?

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01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: All right? I left him on all for a while. Later, Lucas, callbackay,

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01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: we can go back to one of Patty's other points.

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Speaker 2: I think you're gonna hit on there.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I want to start talking about the Texans.

1457
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: I want to give that it's it's due. So here

1458
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Speaker 1: here's my opinions on the Texans, and I wanna I

1459
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Speaker 1: want to preface this with this is not me saying

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Speaker 1: that this is going to be a cake walk. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna get in trouble on Twitter, and it's not me

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Speaker 1: saying it's gonna be a cake walk. This is not

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Speaker 1: me disrespect the Texas. I don't like the Broncos. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't like that team. I don't like that coach

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Speaker 1: me and he is different. You don't like the Bills.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say I don't like the Broncos. Saturday

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Speaker 1: our like conflicting hate watches are gonna go, that's great,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be well see it's but it's also hard because, like,

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Speaker 1: I also wouldn't mind being the one that kicks the

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Speaker 1: Broncos out of the playoffs. So if they lose to.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo, would mind being the one that kicks the Bills out.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm just saying I also want the easier matchup,

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Speaker 1: which I think is the Broncos. I kind of thin

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Speaker 1: even going there that they want to play the Bills.

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01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 2: Again, I think they do too.

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01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: I think they they probably wanted to play the Steelers again.

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Speaker 2: Frankly, I think.

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Speaker 1: They they they really feel like they left Buffalo off

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01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: the hook in Week fifteen, which they did. They had

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01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: a twenty one point lead. I think it was right

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01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: or twenty whatever it was. So, but we might even

1482
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: watch that game together on Saturday anyway. That's going to

1483
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 1: be an all time the Brunch watch the I don't

1484
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: like Denver. That everyone knows that. I don't like the quarterback,

1485
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: you don't like the head coach. You have your own

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01:09:58,080 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: version of what the Bills are to me. Now, this

1487
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: is great. Sean Payton, like Josh, I think Sean Payton

1488
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: his press conference the other day was again just like

1489
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: hubrious and ridiculous. What the hate? It's great? Keep going,

1490
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 1: this is no, no, no, keep going on the quarterback clip.

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Speaker 1: I'm done right. This is not that with the Texans.

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01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: Your ears getting a little hot, okay a little bit that.

1493
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 1: That's not that, Like I'm not saying this about the Texans,

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01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, I'm not trying to

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01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 1: be disrespectful towards a really really good defense. Okay, So

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01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm just putting that out there.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

1498
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: That being said, I like the Patriots in this game

1499
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why I like the Patriots in

1500
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 1: this game. I will always take my chances with Josh

1501
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: McDaniels against a defense that does what it does, a

1502
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 1: defense that doesn't game plan very much. It doesn't send

1503
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 1: a lot of creatives or exotics. I call them exotics.

1504
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: Like you know, they don't spin the dial, they don't

1505
01:10:55,760 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: blitz a lot, they don't disguise pressure, they don't they

1506
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 1: do what they do. They line it up. They put

1507
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 1: four guys down on the line of scrimmage, they put

1508
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 1: seven guys in coverage, and they line it up and

1509
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 1: they say, playball, and let's we're going to be better.

1510
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: We have better talent, we have better execution, and to

1511
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 1: their credit, they are damn good at seat.

1512
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 2: Those are the kind of on either side of the ball,

1513
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 2: because there's offenses that operate that way too. We talked

1514
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 2: a little week a bit last week. Josh McDaniels gets

1515
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,560
Speaker 2: predictable at times, but he can get away with it.

1516
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 1: The talenty as.

1517
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 2: Those are the kind of groups that scare me because it's, oh,

1518
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 2: we don't need to get fancy, we don't need to

1519
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 2: confuse you, we don't need it. You can know exactly

1520
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 2: what we're doing and we can still beat you because

1521
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 2: we're that good. Like that mentality, the talent you have

1522
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 2: to have to have that mentality at this point.

1523
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: Now you know if a three and ten team is

1524
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: lining up that way, yeah, barbecue Chicken alerts. So like

1525
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,799
Speaker 1: a team at this point in the year that plays

1526
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 1: that way scares me because they know how good they are.

1527
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 1: But I push The reason why I push back on

1528
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 1: that is because like as a as a nexus and

1529
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,759
Speaker 1: O's guy. Yeah, every coverage has voice. It's Jimmy's and Joe's,

1530
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: not X's. And no, I'm telling you, every coverage has

1531
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: voice the quarterback. You said that last week coverage has holes.

1532
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 2: Right, But but you have to have the talent to

1533
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 2: exploit that.

1534
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 1: Yes and no, Like if you're gonna go out there

1535
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: and they're gonna play the obviously not but if they

1536
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,919
Speaker 1: if you go out there, uh, they play three different coverages.

1537
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: They play corners, they play Cover three, and they play man.

1538
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: That's it two man, right, Uh, normally it's cover one.

1539
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 1: That was more of a facetious joke that I sent you,

1540
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: not a that was not actually accurate. They played three

1541
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: different coverages.

1542
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 2: Send me the picture for Madden the play.

1543
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's what it is. They send three different

1544
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: they played three different coverages. They played nickel defense with

1545
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: five defensive backs, and they play with a four man

1546
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 1: rush a linebacker. I think Petri is probably sneakily their

1547
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 1: best player, really as good as Anderson and Hunter and

1548
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 1: stantly are.

1549
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I wouldn't go I like him. I won't

1550
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: go that far.

1551
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: Would I would say he's their X factor.

1552
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 2: He's the most impactful player. I don't know about that.

1553
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: He's there. He's their biggest X factor. He's the reason

1554
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: why they can hold up in nickel. Like if he

1555
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: doesn't if he wasn't as physical. Yeah, he's the reason

1556
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: why that they can hold up in nickel. But when

1557
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: you go up against you know, to Patty's question, when

1558
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: you go up against the defense like that. I really

1559
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: like McDaniels and I really like May as a young

1560
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 1: quarterback who's uber talented. He's not going to get confused

1561
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: by what he's looking at. He's going to understand the

1562
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: coverages that they're running. They're gonna have plans for all

1563
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: of them. Uh. You know when he plays zone, especially

1564
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: zones like the Texans play, Uh, you know, there's a

1565
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 1: lot of different flood concepts, you know, just like the

1566
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: one that they ran on on Hunter Henry's touchdown last week.

1567
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: That beat those coverages that throw the ball outside the

1568
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,959
Speaker 1: numbers against those coverages, which not every quarterback can do consistently,

1569
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: but yours can. The other angle, you know that Patty

1570
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: mentioned about throwing over the top. You know, these are

1571
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 1: my three pillars. Okay, my three pillars to this whole

1572
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: thing and this whole take, and I have one other

1573
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: spicy take that we'll get to in a second. They

1574
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: as good as they are. They are fourteenth in the

1575
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 1: league in terms of explosive pass play rate allowed. How

1576
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: oft right next for the Chargers. So no, no, the

1577
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: Chargers were good. The Chargers were top five. They're right

1578
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: in the middle of the pack, which for a great

1579
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,799
Speaker 1: defense is a little bit lower than you would expect.

1580
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 1: So they are susceptible to big pass plays. They do

1581
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 1: give up big pass plays at again, they're not thirtieth,

1582
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 1: but they give up big pass plays a little bit

1583
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: more than you would expect for a great defense. The

1584
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: other thing that I think is really important in this game,

1585
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 1: and you brought this up to me yesterday when we

1586
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 1: were texting about it. Have you seen their numbers against

1587
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 1: scrambles so and against mobile quarterbacks, it's they're not great.

1588
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 1: They have allowed and.

1589
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 2: I found I found part of the breakdown. I couldn't

1590
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 2: find the whole thing. Most of it is scrambles, not

1591
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 2: all of it. They have allowed the most yards per rush.

1592
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 2: Second most yards per rush to quarterbacks in the NFL

1593
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 2: is here at six point four yards per carry. Yeah,

1594
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 2: most of that on scrubs. Now they have the fewest

1595
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 2: quarterback rushing attempts against. So there's the volume skews a

1596
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 2: little bit. But you can run on this even I've

1597
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: been I think as much as anybody. We have a

1598
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 2: bunch of people calling why won't they use Drake May's legs?

1599
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 2: Why won't they use Drake? This is a I've always said,

1600
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 2: it's not worth the risk. I'd rather run him not

1601
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 2: enough than too much.

1602
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 1: In the playoffs.

1603
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 2: Now, right now you're in the playoffs. You're against a

1604
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 2: team that doesn't have a lot of weaknesses.

1605
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: This is one of them.

1606
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 2: This is a game where where I'm kind of telling

1607
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 2: Drake May, you see it, you go and protect yourself,

1608
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 2: get down. But because they got some Petrie al Shai ere.

1609
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: School.

1610
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 2: These guys are gonna try to take a nice way

1611
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 2: of saying it with these guys are gonna try to

1612
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: take his head off. Yeah, but like it's like you say,

1613
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 2: it's the playoffs, you caught it, you got to kind

1614
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 2: of try to do it. I think that that's it's

1615
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 2: just a card you can play that. I'm okay with

1616
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 2: them being reluctant to play most of the time. This

1617
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 2: is why you're reluctant to play it. So when you

1618
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 2: have a game like this, he's in better shape for it.

1619
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 1: So I think they can be beat over the top.

1620
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 1: And I I want to add to that, we're also

1621
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 1: talking about the best deep ball thrower in the NFL. Yeah,

1622
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: so this is a huge area of strength. The number

1623
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: one most explosive passing offense in the league. First, a

1624
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: middling explosive pass and if.

1625
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 2: They want to stay in man and you start hitting

1626
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 2: them deep, you're going to get them into two man.

1627
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 2: And now the rush lanes are going to be everywhere

1628
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 2: because you're not going to have a spy or robber

1629
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 2: whoever in the middle of the field.

1630
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: That's why I think running in this game is important

1631
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: because it pulls that safety down that other the player

1632
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: that they could maybe have play robber or play over

1633
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: the top and too deep. Now you have to you know,

1634
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 1: you have to allocate a spy to Drake May and

1635
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: now you're going to have a single coverage all over

1636
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: the map. And now you're just going to be playing

1637
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: and free with the single high safety up top, Like

1638
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: it just opens up the passing game if he's running.

1639
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 1: So they're bad against scrambles. They're bad again there I

1640
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't say bad. They're bad against scrambles. They're middling against

1641
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: a big play plays down the field, you know, deep passes, middling. Uh.

1642
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: The last thing that you know is really sneakily under

1643
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,879
Speaker 1: the hood that I think is extremely important in this matchup.

1644
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: They don't play like any base defense. They play all

1645
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 1: pretty much all nickel. But when they are in base defense,

1646
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 1: they struggle to stop the pass in base defense. So

1647
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 1: how can the Patriots get them in base They are Munford?

1648
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: They are Munford. So I think that that's probably the

1649
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: Asian walk. That might be like the last thing that

1650
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 1: you try, kind of like they did with the Chargers. Like,

1651
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 1: I don't know if you come out in that because

1652
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you want to waste that early

1653
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,600
Speaker 1: on in the game. Now, maybe they do because they

1654
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 1: feel like they want to get a lead on this team,

1655
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: which I think is a way that they could approach it.

1656
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 1: But the biggest thing that I look at is under

1657
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 1: the hood against six O line jumbo. And let me

1658
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 1: preface this was saying it's not a huge sample size,

1659
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: but against six O line jumbo, they're only twenty first

1660
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 1: in EPA per pass. They're first in EPA per pass normally, right,

1661
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: so they're the best pass defense in the league against

1662
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 1: like standard formations. They are twenty first against six O line.

1663
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: So average against deep passes bad, just fight out bad

1664
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: against running quarterbacks.

1665
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 2: And I just want to I said six point five

1666
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 2: yards per carry earlier.

1667
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 1: It's higher than that.

1668
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 2: It's higher because I forgot to take out kneel downs.

1669
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figured it out.

1670
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 1: I have the numbers I'll give you in a second,

1671
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 1: and uh, seven point two yards per carry. It's more

1672
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 1: than that, and then the that's all. Now now now

1673
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 1: you're interrupting me. Now I'm losing my train of thought.

1674
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: They are on scrambles, they're averaging all allowing almost ten

1675
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: yards to carry on pure scrambles. So I think what

1676
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 1: you're factoring in is like the designed ru yeah, which

1677
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: tend to push the number down. But I would so

1678
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: middling against deep passes, bad file, bad against scrambles, and

1679
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: then below average against six oh line passing out of

1680
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 1: six oh line, all three of those boxers or boxes

1681
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 1: the Patriots can check at a high level. Like we're

1682
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: not just talking about oh yeah, they could do that,

1683
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: like we're talking about the six ozer line package is

1684
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: a regular thing in their offense, Like that is a

1685
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 1: a regular package that they use every single week. They

1686
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: are the best deep ball passing team in the NFL

1687
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: and have been all season long. And they have a

1688
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: dual threat quarterback who can run. And I thought on

1689
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 1: Monday Night, a younger, more nimble Aaron Rodgers got out

1690
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 1: of the pocket a couple of times. Aaron Rodgers at

1691
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: this stage of his career, can't really do anything with that,

1692
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 1: but Drake may can. So if Drake May can get

1693
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 1: outside the pocket, which I want to talk about how

1694
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: and why this happens. So the Texans only rush four guys,

1695
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 1: they don't blitz and they only rush four so on

1696
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: the offensive line, you know, going across the line, there's

1697
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 1: six gaps. So if you don't have six guys, that

1698
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 1: means that there's two open gaps. Right, if you rush

1699
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 1: four into six gaps, that leaves two open gaps. So

1700
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: for a quarterback like, there's gonna be escape routes if

1701
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 1: you can find them. They're just are It's just numbers

1702
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: in math. So as a team that only rushes four

1703
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 1: all the time, they leave open gaps on the line

1704
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. And of course they are aggressive, you know,

1705
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 1: they they want to get after it. Those two edges especially,

1706
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 1: but Rankins on the inside too is also a problem,

1707
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: and so they don't just sit back like they want

1708
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 1: to pin their ears back and they want to get

1709
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 1: after the quarterback. So Drake may can get out of

1710
01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 1: the out of the pocket in this game, now, I

1711
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 1: would highly recommend he stepped through the middle of the

1712
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: pocket and not try to go out in the back

1713
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 1: of the pocket, which is what Josh Allen kept on

1714
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 1: trying to do earlier this season when they played the Texans.

1715
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 1: He kept going backwards, which is not what you want

1716
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: to do because those edges are so fast that they're

1717
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: going to catch you. But if you go up through

1718
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:19,799
Speaker 1: the middle of the pocket. There's a lot of options,

1719
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of things that open up for

1720
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: you if you do that sort of thing. That's where

1721
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:28,040
Speaker 1: al Shaier is it is. But there's a lot of

1722
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 1: open space there on film with these guys. So that's

1723
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 1: a big part of it. The other just element of

1724
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:36,800
Speaker 1: this too. I mentioned this yesterday on PU The Texans

1725
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: are thirty first in the league and yards per carry

1726
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 1: allowed to scrambles by quarterbacks. The thirty second team, the

1727
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: last team in the league is a San Francisco forty

1728
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,560
Speaker 1: nine ers. They run the same defense, so's it's a

1729
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,679
Speaker 1: weak link of the defense of the scheme that they're

1730
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:59,719
Speaker 1: going up against. So I think in a uniquely unique

1731
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 1: way to the Patriots personnhel to Drake May, I think

1732
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 1: there are some areas that they can exploit against his

1733
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: Texans defense. I really do. And I think the last

1734
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 1: thing that I would say about all of this is

1735
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: this is just kind of defense in the NFL. Now,

1736
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: Like this isn't the eighty five Bears. Like there's no

1737
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 1: more like dominant dominant defenses. There's really really good defenses. Yeah,

1738
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 1: and the Texans are really really good defense. But to me,

1739
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 1: there's always plays to be made on film. Even Pittsburgh

1740
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 1: made some plays in that game on Monday Night. Now,

1741
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: they didn't make enough of them, but they even made

1742
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 1: some plays down the field against his team too. I

1743
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:45,600
Speaker 1: just don't know if there's a if it's possible defensively

1744
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 1: to like really go out there and take away every

1745
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 1: blade of grass anymore. Like the offenses are too good,

1746
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are too dynamic. The rules favor the offense.

1747
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: We know that too. Last thing, and you're gonna hate,

1748
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 1: so I can't wait to tell you this.

1749
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 2: You want to like go for a bunch of third

1750
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 2: and fourth downs.

1751
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: No. The last thing is if you look at the

1752
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 1: numbers and you look at the metrics, and I think

1753
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: this all kind of stems from the fact that they

1754
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 1: only rush for all the time and they don't do

1755
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 1: a lot of scheming up front. Yep. The numbers do

1756
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 1: not say that they have a dominant pass rusher, like

1757
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:26,679
Speaker 1: eighteenth in they're eighteenth in pressure eight they are sixth

1758
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 1: in opponent time to throw. They're twenty first in a

1759
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 1: pass rush win rate ESPN's metric. They're twenty first in

1760
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 1: time to pressure.

1761
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 2: How are they twenty first in time to pressure but

1762
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 2: sixth in time to throw.

1763
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know at that time the

1764
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 1: time to throw stats, I don't know what. I don't

1765
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:45,719
Speaker 1: even look at those.

1766
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 2: The average of how long until the quarterback throws the ball?

1767
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't look at them because they're so

1768
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 1: heavily skewed by crazy Like you know, Drake may had

1769
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 1: like a sixteen second drop back last year.

1770
01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 2: Like you know, I just thought they were the same

1771
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 2: thing and people were just using different terms the same number.

1772
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 2: I'm not like, yards after the.

1773
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 1: Catching is how quickly does the next gen register them

1774
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 1: getting a pressure? Yes to all that you have? Any more?

1775
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: You have any more of these magic numbers? I mean,

1776
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 1: I could pull them, Like I'm just telling you, I

1777
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 1: don't what do your eyes tell you? My eyes tell

1778
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: me that Hunter and Anderson are beasts. But yep, I

1779
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that. I don't think that

1780
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 1: this defense.

1781
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 2: Is know what I saw against Pittsburgh. I know what

1782
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 2: I unbeat Pittsburgh. I know what it sa against Buffalo

1783
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 2: Arlers here. I know what I saw against bunch of teams.

1784
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 2: They get to the quarterback. Of course, they get to

1785
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 2: the quarterback. Nobody's saying they don't think it to the

1786
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 2: quarterback at a high level. They get to the quarterback

1787
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 2: at a high level. But I don't think that they

1788
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 2: get to the quarterback super quickly. I think that there's

1789
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 2: going to be time back there. Now we could get

1790
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 2: into this game and I could be totally.

1791
01:24:52,040 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 1: Wrong, but Dave and.

1792
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 2: Chase the front it's they have really good coverage too,

1793
01:24:57,200 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter if they're not getting there if

1794
01:24:58,960 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 2: nobody's open.

1795
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 1: But I what happened to Justin Herbert last week, But

1796
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 1: I think that that is not getting enough credence in

1797
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: this whole Texans defense. Then coverage, Yes, that's fair. I agree.

1798
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: I think that they take away the first read better

1799
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: than any defense in the league. Yeah, they have one

1800
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 1: of the best top four. But that's but that's what

1801
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: it is, man corner in the league. Like when you play,

1802
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 1: when you play like these types of teams, Obviously, the

1803
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 1: pass rushers get the sacks, they get the strip sacks,

1804
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 1: they get a lot of the love. Instinctly gets a

1805
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 1: lot of love too. But but the point I'm trying

1806
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: to get to is just I think this is a

1807
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: eye test. Wise, it's a scary pass rush numbers wise,

1808
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 1: it's not quite as good as maybe the eye test

1809
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 1: tells you that it is. The truth is probably somewhere

1810
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: in the middle. I don't know if this pass rush

1811
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:50,680
Speaker 1: is like as good as it gets hyped up to be.

1812
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes now Anderson and Hunter are problems. I really like

1813
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: rankings on the inside. I think he's a really good player.

1814
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 1: But I think that you can handle edge pressure. You

1815
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 1: can chip them, you can move up in the pocket,

1816
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,639
Speaker 1: you can you know, there's ways to mitigate edge pressure.

1817
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 1: We saw somebody do it here for twenty years, right,

1818
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: so there's ways to do that that. Those are my

1819
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 1: takes on the Texans defense. I hope it didn't come

1820
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,439
Speaker 1: off as like me saying that they suck, because I

1821
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 1: don't think they suck.

1822
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 2: No, again, you're doing the thing I oh no, it

1823
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 2: was the broncos of your bills. I was gonna say, like,

1824
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 2: you're not saying they suck, You're just saying maybe some

1825
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 2: of the credit is misplaced, some.

1826
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: Of the credits misplaced. And I would also say that

1827
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: just watching them on tape, they give up more big

1828
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 1: plays in the passing game than you would expect. Okay,

1829
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: they're really hard to run on and they're really hard

1830
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. If they're playing with leads, the

1831
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 1: pass strudge gets overwhelming, no doubt about it. Like if

1832
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 1: you're and I think that's exactly what happened to Pittsburgh, right,

1833
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 1: like you get behind and you know, I when I

1834
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: watched Pittsburgh and maybe like the Allen game is maybe

1835
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 1: more ridicative of your kind of argument here, But when

1836
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: I watched Pittsburgh, like Aaron Rodgers is can't move, so

1837
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: like I just if he refuses to be hit, is

1838
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: an absolute sitting duck back there, Like there was one

1839
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: sack that I don't even think that any of the

1840
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 1: Texans past rush was actually touch He just fell down

1841
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 1: because he does want to get hit. So like I did,

1842
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: I think this is a completely different animal when you

1843
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 1: go up against the.

1844
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 2: Guy that But look what they did to your guy,

1845
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 2: Josh Allen.

1846
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: So on the other side, with the Texans offense, I

1847
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: actually thought, you know, watching them on film with Kaylee

1848
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: and Nick Keley, their offensive coordinator, I saw the method

1849
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 1: to the madness, like this is not last week with

1850
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 1: Greg Roman, when the Chargers were an absolute mess on offense,

1851
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 1: like they couldn't block anybody, Their route combinations stunk, they

1852
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: were it was a mess. It was a mess. So

1853
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: we talked about that this Texans offense is better, is

1854
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 1: more well coordinated, it's better coached. Now I think Herbert

1855
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 1: is a better quarterback than Stroud, but it's close enough.

1856
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: So I think that this is really just like across

1857
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 1: the board, like the Chargers were kind of like JV

1858
01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 1: and this is varsity, right, and I think off it's

1859
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 1: the same thing with the Texans offense. Most of the

1860
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:06,799
Speaker 1: stuff that they're doing is McVeigh.

1861
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 8: You know.

1862
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 1: They have a little bit of McDaniels sprinkled in there

1863
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 1: from Kayley's influence with the Patriots, but he's really running

1864
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 1: the McVeigh system.

1865
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:13,640
Speaker 2: You know.

1866
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 1: They run a lot of duo, They run a lot

1867
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: of outside zone in the run game, they move the

1868
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 1: pocket a lot in the play action passing game, and

1869
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 1: then they have like their bunches and their condensed looks

1870
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,600
Speaker 1: and things like that that they throw out of in

1871
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 1: their drop back passing game. So I think the biggest

1872
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 1: thing that I see though with them is they've struggled

1873
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: a lot with the pressure plan this year. They've struggled

1874
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 1: a lot on the offensive line. They've struggled a lot

1875
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 1: against blitzes. You know, Stroud when he's kept clean versus

1876
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,560
Speaker 1: when he's under pressure is a big split. You know,

1877
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:46,280
Speaker 1: he's tenth in the league in passer rating when he's clean.

1878
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: He's twenty seventh in the league and passer rating while

1879
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: he's under pressure. So there's a huge split there. So

1880
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 1: I fully expect the Patriots to play this the exact

1881
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: same way they played the Chargers. It's a bad offensive line,

1882
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 1: it's a quarterback that's not handling pressure very well. Well.

1883
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 1: It's a quarterback that with a young offensive coordinator, it

1884
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: doesn't look like he has a lot of answers to

1885
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 1: pressure at the moment, which is usually a coordination thing,

1886
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: not a quarterback thing. You know, you have to have

1887
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 1: a plan of like if they send zero, like, what's

1888
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 1: my check? What's my hot? Like, what's my plan here?

1889
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 1: How am I beating this? So in the second half

1890
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 1: against the Chargers, you know, because I watched the Chargers

1891
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 1: and kind of crossed over. In the second half against

1892
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:26,640
Speaker 1: the Chargers, the Chargers just started heating them up, and

1893
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:28,600
Speaker 1: Mintor blitzed him like forty percent of the time in

1894
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 1: the second half. He had like sixty passing yards the

1895
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 1: entire second half of that game. I fully expect the

1896
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 1: Patriots to come after him. Now, does that change if

1897
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 1: Christian Cazalez doesn't play, Maybe, but if Nico Collins doesn't

1898
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: play on their side kind of wash? Yeah, how much

1899
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 1: does it really change? Especially?

1900
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 2: I mean, they only have two guys with over forty

1901
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 2: one targets and it's Collins and Dalton Schultz. So if

1902
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 2: he has to throw a hot a lot Stroud, that's

1903
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 2: gonna be tough.

1904
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 1: I'm with you.

1905
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 2: I think this salt like last week, with the one

1906
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 2: key difference of they ultimately ended up blitzing Herbert and

1907
01:29:58,120 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 2: it worked.

1908
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 1: We talked about it earlier. That was an in game adjustment.

1909
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 2: They kind of had to get to that point with

1910
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 2: the secondary because Herbert had been really good against the

1911
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 2: blitz this year before that game. Yeah, and they had

1912
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 2: to speed him up first to get the point where

1913
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 2: they could do that.

1914
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 1: And they and they beat the offense, so they beat

1915
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 1: the protection more than they beat Herbert and a lot

1916
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 1: of those games.

1917
01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:17,759
Speaker 2: Stroud is not of been good against the blitz.

1918
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 1: No, he's like seventeenth against the blitz. It gets even

1919
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:24,759
Speaker 1: worse if you look at cover zero and zone blitzes.

1920
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 1: They've been really, really good against Man and then they're

1921
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 1: like a top five team in the league against Man.

1922
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 2: I'll add to this going into that game, admitvidly, I

1923
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 2: didn't know Zach Kor's bag ran that deep.

1924
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now I do.

1925
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:37,479
Speaker 2: And I think it might run deeper than that because

1926
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 2: that was a wild card round. Gotta imagine he's cooking

1927
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 2: more up. Yep, So shout out to that. I mean,

1928
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 2: great game from Zach Korr. But like, let's see it again.

1929
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 2: I think you blitz a crap at him.

1930
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 1: I agree.

1931
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 2: I think you send the house at him, make him

1932
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 2: throw hot, make him throw the receivers he doesn't trust.

1933
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 2: You know, their run game, good game against Pittsburgh, what

1934
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 2: he marks. We both liked him in the drafts.

1935
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 1: It's gotten a little bit better during this win streak

1936
01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: of Theirs. You know, they run a lot of duo

1937
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, just double team up front and just trying

1938
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,840
Speaker 1: to you kind of go downhill at you. But if

1939
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 1: they beat it with a heavy run game against the Blitz,

1940
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:13,720
Speaker 1: I think you tip your cap at that point. Yeah yeah,

1941
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 1: I just looking at it, you know, looking at Stroud,

1942
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:21,559
Speaker 1: especially watching that charge of game from what week seventeen,

1943
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:24,680
Speaker 1: it was, I was like a sneaky, big game for

1944
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:29,760
Speaker 1: both teams, and that game they just the first half

1945
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 1: he threw for like a buck eighty and two touchdowns

1946
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 1: because he was cleaned the whole first half of the game.

1947
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: The second half of the game, Mintor started blitzing him

1948
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,280
Speaker 1: like crazy, and he was I think six for ten

1949
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: for fifty nine yards in the final two quarters of

1950
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: that game. So I fully expect them to blitz the

1951
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:50,679
Speaker 1: crap out of them. Yeah. I put up the stat

1952
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 1: on Twitter last night. Out of twenty nine qualified quarterbacks,

1953
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 1: he's twenty eighth in EPA against cover zero. He's a yeah.

1954
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,639
Speaker 1: He is not been good against cover zero this year,

1955
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 1: and most of the time, just like with the Chargers,

1956
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 1: there's just free runners coming at them, you know, like

1957
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 1: they just don't know how to block it. It's not

1958
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 1: so much like I don't think Stroud's a puddle or

1959
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 1: any of Their line is not great. Their line is

1960
01:32:13,040 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 1: really bad. It's not just not great. Well. Coming off

1961
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:18,560
Speaker 1: the Chargers last week, maybe it looks better by comparison,

1962
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 1: but they're thirtieth in the league and pass rush, you know,

1963
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 1: pass blocking win rate, their thirty second. They're actually worse

1964
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 1: than the Chargers in run blocking. Yeah, I eye test.

1965
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 2: I just felt like I was watching a step up

1966
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 2: from the Chargers you were.

1967
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 1: I agree. I think they're better than they're They're Chargers

1968
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 1: were a trained Trent Brown played well Againsteelers. The Chargers

1969
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 1: are a train wreck. Yeah, that fired their offensive coordinator

1970
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 1: on their own line. Texans line is just bad. The

1971
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 1: Texans are hiring Nick Keley after this game. That this

1972
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 1: is a different This is a much more well coordinated

1973
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:49,000
Speaker 1: unit than that.

1974
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 12: One.

1975
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:53,759
Speaker 2: More thing on Stroud So and this some Patty mentioned

1976
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 2: when he called in and we didn't get through right

1977
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 2: away mention need to win the turnover battle.

1978
01:32:58,160 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: Yep.

1979
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 2: So this isn't not like the Chargers where Okay, they're

1980
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:03,120
Speaker 2: gonna take the ball away, They're gonna give the ball away.

1981
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 2: Houston is one of the best turnover teams in the league.

1982
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 1: Both had He had a weird outlier game last week

1983
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 1: with so that but that's what I was gonna say.

1984
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 1: But strapful five five times last week. Yeah, but like

1985
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 1: a lot of them, you know, going back and watching

1986
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 1: it like it was bad snaps all right, Well, that

1987
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 1: can be a product of that's not gonna happen again.

1988
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 2: That can be a product of the pass rush getting

1989
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 2: in your head.

1990
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 1: No, center, No, that's not gonna happen again. You don't

1991
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 1: need it. Was super weird. They had like three aborted snaps,

1992
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 1: like that's not error again there.

1993
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so we still had two fumbles plus the interception.

1994
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 2: Did he only had two fumbles all year? Fumbles were

1995
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,000
Speaker 2: kind of problem for him earlier in his career. A

1996
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:40,519
Speaker 2: much better year with it this year. They've only turned

1997
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:43,240
Speaker 2: the ball over twelve times, but Pittsburgh kind of got

1998
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:44,640
Speaker 2: to him. And if you can speed them up, the

1999
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 2: turnover number is gonna go up, and you're gonna need

2000
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 2: that because they're not They don't especially fumbling, they don't

2001
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 2: really turn the ball over.

2002
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 1: So that that was my last like big picture thing

2003
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 1: about this game, and then we'll take the rest of

2004
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 1: the calls and everything. Field position really matters in a

2005
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 1: game like that, yes, and that relates to turnover margin.

2006
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 1: The Texans offense averages the third best starting field position

2007
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 1: in the NFL because of their defense scond best. It's third.

2008
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 2: I'm looking at right now, second best.

2009
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: It might be tied for second, but it's like thirty

2010
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 1: two and a half yards. I just looked at it.

2011
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 2: It's thirty two and a half, it says second. Okay,

2012
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 2: so is this one of those things, like a different

2013
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 2: metric for time, because.

2014
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 1: In so much semantics arguments on this.

2015
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 2: Show, semantics, it's second, it's not third. I'm looking at

2016
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 2: Pro Football Reference right now.

2017
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 1: I literally looked this up last night. It said it

2018
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 1: was third on the same website that you're looking at.

2019
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 2: Let me see this is probably tied for second.

2020
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 1: Then all fine, it's too funny anyways, second or third? Okay.

2021
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 1: The big reason why is because they're third in the

2022
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 1: league and takeaways on defense, right, they turned the ball

2023
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 1: over twenty nine times on defense, So the defense is

2024
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,600
Speaker 1: setting up the offense, whether it's the defense scoring on

2025
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 1: its own or it's the offense getting on a short

2026
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 1: field and then.

2027
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 2: Scoring on a short or tied for second with the

2028
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, that's why you saw third.

2029
01:34:58,760 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 1: Thank you?

2030
01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 2: So third tie for second?

2031
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 1: Well, my guess is is that there's a bunch of

2032
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 1: decimals there that Pro Football Focus just filters out because

2033
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,640
Speaker 1: no one needs to see the decimals. Yeah. Maybe so

2034
01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 1: they rank it correctly, but they just don't show you

2035
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 1: like no.

2036
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 2: Because then their back end would say because it gives

2037
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 2: the ranking individually a second, So that's got to be

2038
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 2: tied for second.

2039
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 1: Okay, the they're very good, yeah, not category because of

2040
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:26,600
Speaker 1: the defense. The defense puts them on short fields. The

2041
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 1: defense turns the ball over. If you look at their

2042
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 1: like per drive stats offensively and their EPA, it's not

2043
01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 1: a very good offense. They're twentieth in points per drive.

2044
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 1: They're like twenty first or something like that in EPA

2045
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 1: per play, twenty first in points per drive. See, we'll do.

2046
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,680
Speaker 1: They're tied again. No, that one wasn't tied.

2047
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 2: They're twenty first.

2048
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 1: No, they're definitely tied. I looked this up last.

2049
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:51,680
Speaker 2: Looking on Pro Football Reference. Yeah, it's twenty first. I'm

2050
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 2: looking at it was two point h right, two point zero.

2051
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:57,600
Speaker 2: The Commanders are two point three. They're twentieth And what

2052
01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 2: did I say? Oh, they know they are tied with

2053
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 2: the Eagles. Sorry, but they're for twenty first, twenty second,

2054
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 2: Like I literally twenty first.

2055
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 1: You I literally just said they're tied with somebody, and

2056
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 1: you said they're not tied with anybody, not for twenty

2057
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 1: not for twentieth, Oh my god, whatever, twenty twenty first.

2058
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 1: They're also tied for eighteenth in night their yards for drive.

2059
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 1: The point is is that they drive. Sorry, they do.

2060
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 1: They don't have to drive the field a lot. But

2061
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:22,440
Speaker 1: if you put them on long fields, I'm not super consistently.

2062
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm not super confident that they're going to consistently drive

2063
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 1: the field for points. If you give them points by

2064
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 1: fumble or pick sixing or you know they trit you

2065
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 1: Drake May fumbles on his own ten yard line or

2066
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 1: something like that, then yeah, they're gonna take the points.

2067
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 1: But if you make CJ straudo seventy eighty yards at

2068
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 1: a time, I feel better. So feel pretty good.

2069
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 2: Can I give you one more take that you're probably

2070
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 2: gonna hate. Yes, you get an opportunity to take the

2071
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 2: points in this game.

2072
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 1: You take the points.

2073
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 2: Let's see how the game fold Take the if it

2074
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:53,639
Speaker 2: unfolds the way we're kind of describing, take the points.

2075
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 1: Let's see how the game unfolded. I think there might

2076
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 1: be more points than we think. Take the points. I

2077
01:36:58,800 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 1: think there might be more points.

2078
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:04,200
Speaker 2: Playoffs has been a caval rate of comedy of coaches

2079
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 2: not taking the points. Agree, and I think it's hurt

2080
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 2: them more and it's helped them some. Okay, like a

2081
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 2: couple of times it's it's worked out. I think it

2082
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:11,680
Speaker 2: hasn't worked out more than it has.

2083
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 1: Take the points, so uh, I think that's pretty much

2084
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: all I had. I think that, you know, but really,

2085
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:21,639
Speaker 1: to me, that that's the if you want to kind

2086
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:23,960
Speaker 1: of whittle all the crap I just threw at you down.

2087
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:27,839
Speaker 1: The one thing. To me, this game feels very winnable

2088
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 1: if you don't turn the ball over basically, and that's

2089
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 1: that's way easier said than done. Last week and they

2090
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:38,519
Speaker 1: turned ball over that this one. This one doesn't feel

2091
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 1: winnable if you turn it over multiple times because I

2092
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 1: don't think that the Texans offense is going to poop

2093
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 1: its pants like the Charger. I also think.

2094
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 2: To take the points argument and look, it ultimately ended

2095
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 2: up being more than a three point game. But how

2096
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 2: different is it if the Chargers kicked the field goal

2097
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 2: after that fumble and go up three nothing like.

2098
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 1: I just think I think is going to take the points.

2099
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 1: I just think that on both sides, I think that

2100
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 1: people are anticipating another you know, slug fast, another rock fight.

2101
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 1: I think this game gets into the twenties. I don't

2102
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 1: think that this is a super low scoring game. What's

2103
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 1: the total? It just this is the way I feel

2104
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:21,160
Speaker 1: about it. I could. I think that Drake May is

2105
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 1: going to be two heavyweights standing in the middle of ring,

2106
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:28,719
Speaker 1: exchanging haymakers, and so there's gonna be some turnovers, probably

2107
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 1: by the Patriots. There's going to be some points by

2108
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and we'll see where it comes out. In

2109
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:36,639
Speaker 1: the wash forty and a half total. I go over

2110
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 1: and then waste a three points spread like it might

2111
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 1: be twenty three to twenty, but I go over. I

2112
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 1: don't think this is going to be sixteen to three

2113
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:47,000
Speaker 1: or you know whatever, you know, make it a closer game.

2114
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 1: I really don't, but we'll see. Can I take these calls?

2115
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 1: Go for it? Okay, let's go to Jeremiah and Framingham.

2116
01:38:55,200 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 1: What's up Jeremiah? Hello? Yeah, going once? Okay, call back in.

2117
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 1: We'll get you on. Sean is in Vancouver. What's up, Sean.

2118
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:13,719
Speaker 7: I was looking at the Guardian cap that Wilson was wearing,

2119
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:17,760
Speaker 7: and it seemed tighter or snug. It looked looks good

2120
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 7: like we're the other Guardian caps from other players like

2121
01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:24,719
Speaker 7: Peach or something that they kind of look like misfitting bubbles.

2122
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 7: So I was wondering if you noticed that or knew

2123
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 7: anything about that, and Alex, I have one question for you,

2124
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 7: and it might be a little tricky.

2125
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 12: I know a lot of the players with the Patriots.

2126
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 7: From last year who were let go because it didn't

2127
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 7: fit the system or there was something you know, that

2128
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 7: didn't they wanted to go a different way. But I

2129
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 7: don't think that's the case with David Andrews. Like I

2130
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 7: think David Andrews, if he were completely healthy, like the

2131
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 7: way he was before the injury, I think he'd still

2132
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 7: be there in Stille of Bradbury. I think Bradbury's like

2133
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 7: similar size and they wanted someone like that, where Andrews

2134
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 7: like probably wasn't ready to make the team coming back

2135
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 7: after that injury. So that's why he's out there, and

2136
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 7: that's why I retired. So I'll leave you with that

2137
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 7: and go past.

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01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 1: Thanks Sean. I'm not sure. I don't know. If I

2139
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:14,960
Speaker 1: don't know what the question was in there, I don't

2140
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:18,479
Speaker 1: know either, But I don't think that Andrews was in

2141
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 1: their plans.

2142
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the injury definitely didn't help, but yeah, but.

2143
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:23,720
Speaker 1: It's all factor, you know, it's all part of it.

2144
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 1: You know, Guys like Andrews, Jawan Bentley, Dietrich Wise, Jonathan Jones.

2145
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 2: Well, so did they say on the broadcast Jowan Bentley

2146
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 2: was retired? Yeah, because he tweeted something that like not retired.

2147
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I don't think that they thought those guys

2148
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,760
Speaker 1: had a ton left in the tank and we're ready

2149
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 1: to move.

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01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:46,560
Speaker 2: Some of it was stylistically too, Yeah. I mean, I

2151
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 2: don't know if he's asked us like I do the

2152
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 2: podcast with David. I yeah, I don't have that much

2153
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:54,679
Speaker 2: insight into that, but I don't you know, the injury

2154
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 2: definitely didn't help.

2155
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 1: No, I mean, the injury was the number one reason

2156
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:00,280
Speaker 1: that he's not playing for sure, I would think, I mean,

2157
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: I don't know that, but I mean I think if

2158
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 1: he is healthy, he probably would have tried at least

2159
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 1: come to camp and given it all. Right, DJ is

2160
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 1: in Arizona. What's up, dj Yo?

2161
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:11,840
Speaker 7: What's up?

2162
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 2: Evan? What's up Alex?

2163
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 1: How you're doing?

2164
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:15,479
Speaker 6: You're good?

2165
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:15,840
Speaker 5: Good?

2166
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:16,679
Speaker 11: How about yourself?

2167
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:18,639
Speaker 1: Good? Yes?

2168
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 12: Sir?

2169
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 11: So, I love the work, y'all.

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01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 12: Do.

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01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 11: I appreciate, thank you all the numbers and stuff. I

2172
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,280
Speaker 11: love listening in hearing all the nerd talk that wasn't

2173
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 11: ever my thing.

2174
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 12: So hear y'all do.

2175
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:28,760
Speaker 11: It gives me a lot more insight and I do

2176
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:31,600
Speaker 11: appreciate it. I love how all gives you heckle on

2177
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 11: it on PU.

2178
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 1: Evan me up awesome.

2179
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 11: The reason I called in was because I've seen on

2180
01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 11: Gunzo's backup Instagram page he posted I'm back by g

2181
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:45,719
Speaker 11: Herbo and it was him and Milton Williams in a post,

2182
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 11: so that may be indicating that he passed concussion protocolingy

2183
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 11: may be out there for practice. That's just what I

2184
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 11: was calling in to let y'all know about hopefully some

2185
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 11: good news and I hope you have a great day

2186
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 11: and Evan, I'll see.

2187
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 6: You on PU later.

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01:41:56,640 --> 01:41:58,960
Speaker 1: Sounds good, DJ, Yeah, I did see that on his

2189
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:04,599
Speaker 1: alt account his like main marketing. What does it call it? Finsta?

2190
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 1: Is that like the altar counter? Is that something else?

2191
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:06,640
Speaker 8: No?

2192
01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 1: I think if Finsta's is like you're hiding your identity

2193
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 1: on a fence guy and so that you can like

2194
01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 1: surf and do things without people knowing who you are.

2195
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 1: This is like his own personal.

2196
01:42:17,320 --> 01:42:22,160
Speaker 2: Instagram okay, and not like his his business his brand Okay.

2197
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 1: Right, Uh, he did He did post that Alex and

2198
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 1: I will be out of practice at like the two

2199
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 1: o'clock hour, we'll find out. Mike Rabel's gonna talk. We'll

2200
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:33,760
Speaker 1: talk about Milton Williams being back.

2201
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 2: That was my first thought was he's like, oh my

2202
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 2: got milted back. Look at him having a big game

2203
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 2: after the injury, just hyping his buddy up.

2204
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, either way, were we're going to find out in

2205
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 1: a couple of hours, So there's really no reason to speculate.

2206
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 1: But the one, you know, little piece, I'll say Travon

2207
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 1: Henderson did play the following week.

2208
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:53,679
Speaker 2: Trayvon Henderson played the following week. Jared Wilson missed two weeks,

2209
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:57,040
Speaker 2: Kaisham Booty missed one. Like you just don't it's concussions

2210
01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 2: are weird.

2211
01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 1: You don't know, but I think that impossible. But it's

2212
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 1: not impossible. It's not impossible. And the one thing that

2213
01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 1: gives me hope more so than Gonzo's cryptic Instagram posts

2214
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 1: on Monday, uh, Mike Rabel was asked about it and

2215
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 1: he said they wouldn't allow him to come back in

2216
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 1: the game, meaning the independent neuro wouldn't allow him to

2217
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 1: come back in the game, which tells me that maybe

2218
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 1: Gonzo was pushing to come back. In the game and

2219
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:29,439
Speaker 1: they were saying no. So that is just like a

2220
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 1: small thing that maybe I'm looking too much into. But

2221
01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 1: I also feel like if it was no chance and

2222
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:36,760
Speaker 1: Gonzo was really feeling it, and I don't know if

2223
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:38,800
Speaker 1: you would have phrased any game back in the gaming

2224
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 1: play just now, I thought I was interesting they ruled

2225
01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:40,760
Speaker 1: him out.

2226
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 2: Literally, was it the lad during the kneel downs? I

2227
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 2: don't know if it's the last neel down, but like

2228
01:43:45,479 --> 01:43:47,600
Speaker 2: they're getting rid of niel down and there's somebody in

2229
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 2: the press box who announces over one of the pr

2230
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:52,640
Speaker 2: I think it's it's buddy Betty Right is doing it

2231
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:56,759
Speaker 2: this year. We'll announce like Christian Zalez ruled out, Christian

2232
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:59,040
Speaker 2: Zalez doubtful whatever, blah blah blah, Like there's somebody who

2233
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 2: says that audibly, and like I'm thinking, like, why are

2234
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 2: they announcing this right the game's over?

2235
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 1: I think that is when it's a concussion and it's

2236
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:10,440
Speaker 1: like a protocol thing. I think it might happen required.

2237
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:11,400
Speaker 2: The fact it was that late.

2238
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I mean, does what twenty minutes in real time? Yeah? Yeah,

2239
01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:18,759
Speaker 1: all right, Jeremiah's back. He's in Framingham what's up Jeremiah.

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Speaker 6: Hey guys, I'm a big fan of the show.

2241
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:23,640
Speaker 1: Thank you.

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01:44:23,800 --> 01:44:27,560
Speaker 6: I just had a two quick questions. So one, I

2243
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:29,839
Speaker 6: was in the stadium last game and I heard Stephan

2244
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:33,680
Speaker 6: Dave's comments after that Gulette wasn't loud. I just want

2245
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:36,640
Speaker 6: to know, like what was going, Like, how in the

2246
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 6: world was that not a playoff environment like I felt

2247
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 6: like we were bringing it. I just want to hear

2248
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 6: like what you guys think about other stadiums compared to Julette.

2249
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:47,760
Speaker 6: And then real quick too, do you think this is

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01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 6: the type of defense that you can just bomb on

2251
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:53,400
Speaker 6: like in the first drive, like early on, just get

2252
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:55,800
Speaker 6: like a couple of shots in because I feel like

2253
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 6: if you get too like thirty yard touchdowns on this team,

2254
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 6: I think it'll be the difference in the game.

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01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 1: That Yeah, thanks for the call. So on the on

2256
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 1: the stadium, on the atmosphere, I think the dig state.

2257
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:08,639
Speaker 2: Remember when Julian Edelman was yelling at Tom Brady you're

2258
01:45:08,680 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 2: too old. Yeah, I think it was one of those Do.

2259
01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 1: You think he was trolling? I think it was like

2260
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 1: they can get like he's he knows there's another game.

2261
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:16,560
Speaker 1: He wants to push you guys. The next level. I

2262
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:18,960
Speaker 1: think that was like, I agree, I think it was

2263
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 1: a playful. Yeah, I don't think he really he's uh,

2264
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 1: he's got like a kind of dry, sarcastic way about him,

2265
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 1: which you remember in training camp when he was talking

2266
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 1: about whether he'd be ready week one, and it became

2267
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:33,280
Speaker 1: like kind of a whole thing. Yeah, because people don't

2268
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 1: that's the just you know, getting to I don't want

2269
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 1: to get to know him, and I don't know, I.

2270
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 2: Get familiar with the way he speaks. They no, I

2271
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 2: think that was all right. Yeah they were loud, but

2272
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 2: we got another game next week. Let's see if they

2273
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 2: can be like. Yeah, you know, I think it was

2274
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:48,880
Speaker 2: a good atmosphere.

2275
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:52,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. On the whole. I don't think that Julie,

2276
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's the fans faults the way

2277
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 1: all the time. Now it's better now that this the

2278
01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 1: big with the big scoreboard closing the lighthouse end a

2279
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 1: little bit more, but it's not quite as Loud's a.

2280
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:08,360
Speaker 2: Lot of places sound to escape, yeah, travel.

2281
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 1: I'd never been to Seattle, but Kansas City, you know

2282
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 1: that place is rackus. And I'm not picking on Patriots

2283
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 1: fans and saying that they're doing a bad job. It's

2284
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 1: just a different environment. It's a different stadium set up,

2285
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 1: it's different geography. You know, even even in Buffalo, that

2286
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:27,640
Speaker 1: place getting.

2287
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 2: Right, the decibels aren't going to be as loud here

2288
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:32,519
Speaker 2: again just because of the construction. Yeah, I thought it

2289
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 2: was a great environment. I thought the crowd, like I

2290
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:38,360
Speaker 2: got chills a couple of times during that game. Press

2291
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 2: box was shaking, the threast box was shaking, like I

2292
01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:45,799
Speaker 2: hadn't felt that way in a few years. Well, honestly,

2293
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 2: it was a little similar when they got up in

2294
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 2: the Bills game, but that that was a playoff environment.

2295
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 2: That was so you know, I thought the awesome thing

2296
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 2: to me was you had what was the first thing

2297
01:46:56,400 --> 01:47:00,479
Speaker 2: they were there was So they announced that the starting lineups,

2298
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 2: it was under it. So Will Campbell got a big pop,

2299
01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:07,600
Speaker 2: Steph got a big pop coming out of tunnel, and

2300
01:47:07,680 --> 01:47:10,639
Speaker 2: then the big MVP chance for Drake into the entire

2301
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:12,800
Speaker 2: crowd singing the national anthem, which was kind of cool.

2302
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:14,400
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen that at Gillette. I've

2303
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 2: seen it at t D. I don't think I've ever

2304
01:47:16,120 --> 01:47:18,800
Speaker 2: seen that at Gillette. And then that went right into

2305
01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:21,439
Speaker 2: a seven Nation Army chant leading up to kickoff, so

2306
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:23,560
Speaker 2: they were they were, And then I love how you

2307
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:25,960
Speaker 2: know all this and well because I remember thinking, I

2308
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 2: double it was not paying attention to like this environment rules.

2309
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 2: And then the Patriots get the ball first dead silent

2310
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:34,600
Speaker 2: when the Patriots, I mean it was I was like

2311
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:35,759
Speaker 2: weirdly silent.

2312
01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 1: It was the Patriots got the ball, So no, the

2313
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 1: crowd was locked in. It was also like six' three

2314
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 1: for the majority of the, game so it wasn't exactly

2315
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 1: one of those. Games it has a ton of things

2316
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 1: that you're.

2317
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:46,680
Speaker 2: Out, well no six three, game you're getting loud for

2318
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:49,599
Speaker 2: the defense a lot because the defense IS i, thought.

2319
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:51,840
Speaker 1: Come, on like we all know that people want to see.

2320
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 1: TOUCHDOWNS i, thought no one wants to sit there and

2321
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 1: watch a pun.

2322
01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:58,680
Speaker 2: Fest, no but defans got, Loud like thefans didn't see

2323
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:00,000
Speaker 2: the energy gets sucked out.

2324
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:02,400
Speaker 1: Because it was stores and Super bowl zones, different but

2325
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:04,640
Speaker 1: Like Super bowl fifty three was the.

2326
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 2: Same, okay it was the fans who kept the energy

2327
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:09,200
Speaker 2: up even in a game where the entry usually gets sucked.

2328
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:10,720
Speaker 2: Out they were loud like.

2329
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 1: That like the whole argument of like like it gets

2330
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 1: loud and defensive. Struggles it does not like it.

2331
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:18,880
Speaker 2: Does if the crowd knows what they're, doing and it,

2332
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 2: Does i'll hold as.

2333
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:24,640
Speaker 1: Playbook it gets, loud like when you going back and

2334
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 1: forth up and down the. Field that's when the place gets.

2335
01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:29,560
Speaker 2: Balls, no sometimes it gets quiet because all, right we

2336
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:31,160
Speaker 2: know they're not gonna get to stop. Here i've seen

2337
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 2: the crowd get kind of lethargic on. That i'll pull

2338
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 2: the page play digs, playbook. THOUGH i think they can be, Louder,

2339
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 2: OKAY i think y' all can be.

2340
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 1: Louder all, right let's Take elder's call and then we'll

2341
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:46,759
Speaker 1: wrap it. Up what's, Up? Beldrid hey, good.

2342
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, Enthusiasm but you got to be kicked me.

2343
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:55,519
Speaker 5: Right you think it's gonna be, like, look ain't gonna Be,

2344
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 5: no it's it's a. War it's gonna be a.

2345
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 1: Fight absolute.

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01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:02,560
Speaker 5: Great MAY i want, HIM i want him to use his,

2347
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 5: legs but them boy wasn't hit, him SO i don't

2348
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 5: want to use it that. Much so they lay the

2349
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 5: wood and those guys over the. Top most team that

2350
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:15,120
Speaker 5: did at the head. Feet we only got one, guy you,

2351
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:17,519
Speaker 5: know and they didn't you, Know but we don't use

2352
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 5: him that. Much So i'm just. Worried worried about Is

2353
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:24,800
Speaker 5: Will campbell and what you call getting walked back like

2354
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:28,720
Speaker 5: they did last, game Because anderson And hunter are looking at,

2355
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 5: that and that's What i'm worried, about you.

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01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 1: Know, yeah that's What that's what we're all worried.

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01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 12: About.

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01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 1: Eldred, uh thanks for the. Call, sorry we gotta we

2359
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 1: gotta get it get going. Here but, LOOK i didn't make.

2360
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 1: IT i tried to say it as many times AS i.

2361
01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 1: Could now you Think texas defense. Sucks it was not

2362
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 1: meant to come off as LIKE i thought it was

2363
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 1: gonna be a cake. WALK i think Where i'm trying

2364
01:49:49,479 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 1: to kind of get out to put a ball on this.

2365
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 1: Though it's the, playoffs, guys like these are all gonna

2366
01:49:54,439 --> 01:49:56,880
Speaker 1: be good teams, now like you're out of the wild card.

2367
01:49:56,960 --> 01:50:00,479
Speaker 1: Round you're not going to get the tomato can now

2368
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:04,559
Speaker 1: like you. Are you're in it, now like you're in the. Tournament.

2369
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:08,120
Speaker 1: Now this is there's eight teams. Left you, know seventy

2370
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:09,760
Speaker 1: five percent in the league is at home right, now

2371
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 1: there's eight teams. Left you're gonna play good. Teams you're

2372
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 1: gonna play good. Defenses you're gonna probably play pretty good,

2373
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks like this is not going to be a cakewalk

2374
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:21,439
Speaker 1: for the rest of the. Way so just come in

2375
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 1: here and, say, yeah they. Can't why why even show

2376
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:27,439
Speaker 1: up On? Sunday This texan defense is too. GOOD i

2377
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 1: don't feel that. Way you're a good, Team they're a good.

2378
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 1: Team they're both both teams are gonna be able to

2379
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 1: make some. Plays that's HOW i. Feel, now we'll see who,

2380
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:37,800
Speaker 1: wins you, know we'll see who, wins and it should be.

2381
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:40,560
Speaker 1: Fun alex AND i will be back next, week win or,

2382
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 1: lose hopefully, win but win or, lose will be back next.

2383
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:47,599
Speaker 1: Week will either be doing an autopsy on the season

2384
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 1: and starting to look at the, offseason or we'll be

2385
01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 1: talking about THE Amc championship. Game And i'm laughing because

2386
01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:58,720
Speaker 1: that is just breaking. Down that's absolutely. Bananas, yeah we'll

2387
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 1: definitely talk about that a little bit as. Well and

2388
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:04,720
Speaker 1: hopefully The patriots are either going To denver or The

2389
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:08,680
Speaker 1: Buffalo bills are coming here to host THE Afc championship

2390
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 1: game like we all thought when the season. Started Patriots

2391
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:14,560
Speaker 1: unfilter will be up in nine minutes at, noon SO

2392
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:16,639
Speaker 1: i have much more on The texans and The Patriots

2393
01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 1: Mike rabel at one o'clock practicing the two o'clock. Hour

2394
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 1: we'll see If gonzo is out. There we'll see you

2395
01:51:22,040 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 1: guys next. Week thanks for. Watching, Bye, hey this Is.

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01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 3: Alex thanks for tuning into the. Show if you really

2397
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:31,880
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2398
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:35,280
Speaker 3: spotify or wherever you get your. Podcasts also make sure

2399
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:37,639
Speaker 3: you follow us on The New England patriots YouTube channel

2400
01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 3: to see this show and everything else we do here

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01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:40,040
Speaker 3: at The.

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Speaker 1: Patriots thanks a, lot