WEBVTT - Selects: How Flight Attendants Work 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:04.880 Hey, everybody, Happy Saturday. Chuck here delivering a brand new 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:07.880 Selects episode. But it's really not brand new, because, as 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:11.320 we all know, these are reruns carefully curated and selected 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:13.760 by both Josh and I each week. This one comes 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:17.959 to you from December seventh, twenty seventeen. How Flight Attendants Work. 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:20.799 Just got back from touring in the Midwest, and I 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:23.439 went on quite a few flights and made sure I 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:25.639 gave my appreciation to all the flight attendants because they 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:29.000 do such great work and I think are often underappreciated. 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:30.760 So if you want to know what they are actually 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:32.440 doing on their job and a little bit about how 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:34.720 you get hired some behind the scenes stuff, check out 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:41.600 this episode right now, How Flight Attendants Work. Welcome to 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:49.920 Stuff you should know, A production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:52.280 Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:56.280 I'm Josh Clark with me as part of your cabin cruise, 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.200 Charles W. Chuck Bryant filling the whole thing out is 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:03.160 our pilot Jerry Rowland Captain James as we'll call her 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:03.720 from now on. 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.199 If you'd like to return your seat, do it's full 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.800 upright position, but along with your trade table. 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:13.240 If you've lost your device, or phone in the seat, 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.240 don't touch it, just come get one of us. Did 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:20.200 that happen to you? It's a new thing, what tell me? No, 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.280 it's like a new thing on Delta. And like the 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:25.520 safety instructions, they actually take a little time to say, 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.320 if you've lost your tablet or phone in your seat, 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:30.920 don't adjust it, come get a flight attendant. 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:32.440 What do you mean lost in the seat? What do 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:32.840 they mean? 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:35.480 Like if you have if you're sitting there and you 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:38.280 got the butter fingers, you know, like you turn into 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:40.800 Jerry Lewis all of a sudden your phone slides down 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.759 into the seat beside you or in between the seat 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:47.040 next to you. Okay, your phone is in grave danger 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:51.360 if you adjust your seat back upright again. Oh, like 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:53.760 I say, get a flight attendant, because they now have 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:57.720 additional skills in their repertoire to get your tablet or 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:58.600 phone out safe. 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.960 So at some point a memo went out to these airlines. 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.880 It said, we're breaking cell phones because people are like, well, 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.760 maybe if I just throw my seat up, it'll pop out. 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:10.320 Sure, it'll shoot right out, like like I pressed rewind 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:10.800 on life. 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:11.280 Weird. 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:13.280 Anyway, this is stuff you should know. 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:16.880 The uh I thought this was pretty interesting actually, and 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:20.120 it gave me even more of an appreciation for flight attendants. Yes, 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.600 then I had already gained over my ears. 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.720 Yeah, because if you're one of those puttses who's mean 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:27.720 to flight attendants you get. 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.280 Off the plane, you're a jerk. Yep. 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.040 Shouldn't be mean to people anyway. 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.919 Like everybody's walking around carrying their own burden that you're 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:37.080 totally unaware of. And if you're mean to somebody, it 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.639 usually is because you're not getting what you want, right then. Yeah, 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:42.359 So if everybody can just calm down and be nice 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.079 to each other, that's great. But be extra nice to 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.360 the flight attendants. And if you don't agree with me, now, 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.520 I guarantee you'll agree with us at the end. 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:51.080 Of the podcast. 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.120 And even in our own article here, there was a 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.040 interview with a flight attendant, a couple of them, a 0:02:58.120 --> 0:02:59.760 couple of them, but one of them, very you know 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.200 of these vets, said, h you know, back in the day, 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.880 everyone was all excited when they flew, they were going 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:07.840 someplace fun. Now everyone's crabby. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.560 Yeah, but she makes a really good point. Why. 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.000 She says, it's because this is all post nine to 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.760 eleven that the added layers of security that they've put 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:22.120 onto getting from your car onto the plane increases stress 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.320 so much that you're exhausted by the time you get 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.520 onto the plane. And if flying has become a chore 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:32.280 a task, yes, by the seats have gotten way smaller. 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:37.640 I do buy that the leg room's gotten smaller. And yeah, 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.760 I think that it's just kind of become more of 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:41.560 like a let's get from point A to point B. 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.960 Yeah, I taking your shoes off, taking your laptop out, 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:50.200 it's about all the extra security. No big deal, That's 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:50.680 what I say. 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:52.800 Did I tell you I've gotten kind of on board 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.960 your train about taking your shoes off on a flight? 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:56.160 Oh to not do it? 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.440 Yeah? Good, So every once in a while just be like, 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:00.240 to hell with that. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.480 I don't care. I'm taking my shoes off. I know 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.400 my feet don't stink, right, But I understand that there's 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.680 people like you out there who are deeply offended by 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.000 that kind of thing, So I typically do leave them 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.760 one unless my dogs are just yeap and so so loud. 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:14.160 I can't. 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.360 Yeah, I can't ignore it, but it's pretty rare these days. 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.400 I think my deal with that is is you can't 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.960 count on everyone's feet to not stink, right, and I 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:24.800 think plenty of people are like, I don't care. 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.720 That their feet stink. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty rotten. 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:28.719 I just want to be comfy. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:33.240 That's pretty rotten. But we live in something called society. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:35.240 There are rules. 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.520 But getting back to the new regulations, which is pretty 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:43.479 much laptop out, shoes off. I mean you still had 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.760 to go through the line just like before, you. 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:50.040 Know, Yeah, it seems it feels different to me. Yeah, 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:50.839 it does. 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:52.880 Different as in more time consuming. 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.400 Yeah, much more stressful, Like it's a it's not an 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.960 event like it was. It definitely used to be an 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.760 event in a person's life to go on an airplane. 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.400 Well, do you have a different feeling when you go 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:05.920 on vacation compared to work. 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:09.120 Travel as far as the airport goes. 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.440 Yeah, and how you feel about it the same, Yeah, 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:12.640 same stress. 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.279 Yes, a lot, a lot of it, to be fair, 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.839 is in my head. Yeah, to me, pretty much, the 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:22.760 worst thing that can happen to you is missing your airplane. 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.840 I can't I don't even want to imagine what happens 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.960 when you miss your airplane. Uman's like, it's not that bad. 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.280 As a matter of fact, she's kind of entertained, like 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:34.280 purposefully making us miss. 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.400 Your own version of cognitivebates. 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.320 But I don't want to miss it, so I generate 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.320 my own stress in a large part. But it does 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.360 seem like much more of a process than it was before. Okay, 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:48.600 how about you. You're fine with it? 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:50.880 Yeah, I mean, it's no big deal, just shoes in 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.680 the laptop. Yeah, two bits. 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.880 But it does seem like and I read this Travel 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:03.520 and Leisure article about flight attendance where the author was saying, 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.320 I think she was quoting a flight attendant who was saying, like, 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:10.040 we've all kind of decided as a group that we're 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.440 fine with just getting on an airplane and getting to 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.400 where we're going, and it doesn't have to be this 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:18.200 luxury experience. And as a result, the price of an 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.679 airline ticket has come down dramatically compared to the golden 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:22.239 age of flying. 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.880 Oh yeah, but then it has gone back up since 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:25.720 it was pretty cheap. 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:30.360 Yeah, but relative to say, average income, it's I think, 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.240 much less than it wasn't say, like the sixties, But 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:38.360 in the sixties they were cutting like cuts of meat 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.200 on a cart in front of you. 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:41.920 I'm not kidding. 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.640 There was a carving station that they would move. I'm 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:45.799 not kidding. I've seen us. 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:47.600 I believe it. I think it's funny that that's the 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:49.400 definition of fancy is a carving station. 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.320 It really is. I mean it is. The guy had 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:53.400 the hat and everything. 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.960 Yeah, well you and my extended family agree on that, 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:56.480 but it's. 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.200 And all of us take our shoes off while we 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.040 eat our carv But there used to be that there 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.920 were like piano lounges in first class lounge like they were. 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.760 It was like it was an event. 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.680 Sure, But the fact that it's gone is because we've 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.720 all said, no, we want we want to be able 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:18.679 to travel for less cost, right, with fewer frills. 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:20.560 Yeah, I just kind of want to get there. I'm 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.160 with you there, Yeah, if that's what you think, or 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:26.120 I'm with the airline industry. Yeah, I just hut me 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.520 on the plane and give me there. Maybe throw a 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:31.360 whiskey down my throat. Sure, and that's about all. There 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.600 you go banana maybe, yeah, if it's the morning. 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:36.440 But the people who are going to help you get 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:41.400 there banana and whiskey, Uh yeah, sure, Okay. The people 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:43.920 who are going to help you get there, they have 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.560 their job has changed over time, but they have not 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:51.320 because they are unsung heroes and have been from beginning 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:51.720 to end. 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:56.200 That's right. The early days of plane travel, they hired 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:01.880 young men to take care of the stewardship of the plane. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.160 Cabin boys. Yeah, cabin boy at Chris Elliott movie. 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.480 Yeah, I think that was a boat cabin but still sure, 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:12.040 still a cabin boy. Yeah. And that was just sort 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.000 of the thing. And then this woman came along and 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:16.800 you dug this up. This really great. Her name was 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.960 Ellen Church the nineteen thirties, in nineteen thirty in fact, 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:24.440 and she was a nurse and a licensed pilot, so 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.320 she had it going on. And she said, you know what, 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:32.320 I have an idea Boeing air Transport, who would become 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:36.480 United Airlines. Why don't you hire eight women to take 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:39.440 care of you on your flight for three months and 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.400 just see how that goes. And it went great, and 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.040 they said, I think we're onto something here. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:44.839 Yeah. 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:49.560 She actually pitched the idea because at first the execs 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.880 were like, no, it's a stupid idea. This is no 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.520 place for women. Yeah, and she said we'll get this. 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.439 How is a man going to say that he can't 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.960 fly because he's afraid of flying if he knows there's 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.000 a woman up there flying around, and they're like, actually, 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.560 that's pretty good psychology. So they took her up on 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:07.800 it and it became, yeah, a thing from that moment on. 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.240 But before her I have to say, if we're talking 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:16.040 gender nonspecific flight attendants, yes, a man had her beat 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:21.200 by eighteen years a German Man named Heinrich Cubis who 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:25.640 was the world's first flight attendant and he worked zeppelins, 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.360 including the graf Zeppelin in the Hindenburg. 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:30.600 Really yeah, did he die on the Hindenburgh? No? 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:31.120 He lived? 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:31.720 Oh wow. 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:33.560 Very few people died on the Hindenburg. I think they 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.679 were mostly on the ground. Remember, I don't remember, because 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:40.440 the hydrogen burned up and the people who died were 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:41.160 ones who jumped. 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.600 That's what it was, is that it. Did we do 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.360 a show on that we've talked about before. Yeah, yeah, 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:50.360 one of our many, many, many short lived video series. 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:54.880 Oh right, of course. So at any rate, Ellen Church 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:59.320 changed the face of the flight attendant industry. And then 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:03.040 in in the sixties and seventies, of course it was 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.520 sort of a uh and this is not me talking here, 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.559 this is in the article. It was the sexy stewardess 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:12.360 phase of airline travel. Yeah, and that was definitely the 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:15.840 deal that you had weight limits and height limits. You 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:19.360 had to look a certain way and they put you 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.520 in the just the right outfit and it was all 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.120 about sort of, hey, get up there and look good 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:24.920 and serve drinks. 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.560 So and there were like those limits you talk about. Yeah, 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.520 technically there's still around. There are weight limits and height limits, 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.320 but they're restricted to you can't be so short that 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:36.960 you can't reach the overhead bins. 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:38.320 Yeah, they're all practical limits. 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.520 Right, you can't be so tall that you're just bumping 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:41.679 your head all over the place. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:42.000 Yeah. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.040 You have to be of the. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.000 Adequate size to fit into a jump seat that the 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:48.480 flight attendants sit in. 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:49.600 Yeah, but that's it. 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:53.000 Back then, it was you have to weigh like, no 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.560 more than one hundred and twenty pounds, you have to 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:57.880 be this height, and it had everything to do with 0:10:57.960 --> 0:10:59.240 looks and attractiveness. 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:00.960 Yeah, in your third too, so you're fired. 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.719 Yeah, that was a thing like very early on, I 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:08.119 think in the fifties. I think in the nineteen fifties 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:13.480 they started airlines started instituting age restrictions where once you 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.760 got to age thirty two, you were no longer eligible 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:18.680 to be a flight attendant. You might have a job 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.199 down on the ground, but you couldn't be a flight 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.440 attend anymore because you were too old according to them. 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:25.920 Plus also you couldn't be married. 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:27.199 Or have kids. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:27.600 Right. 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.719 Yeah, it's very restrictive back in the day. 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.240 Also maybe the most sexist industry that's ever existed. 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:38.199 And of course that's airline dependent. It's not like it 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.840 was a federal regulation. Yeah. Yeah, so it all depended. 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.440 But you need a high school diploma in the very 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.360 least these days. But they're very competitive jobs to get 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:51.400 you gone to the days where you can just waltz 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.440 in there with a headshot and get a job as 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.320 a flight attendant. A lot of people want these gigs, 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.360 and so if you have a college degree, then you 0:11:58.440 --> 0:11:59.800 definitely have a leg up. 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:04.160 These definitely, But it's always been pretty competitive. Supposedly, in 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:09.000 two thousand six, Delta announced that they had one thousand 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:14.559 openings and got like one hundred thousand applications. But it's 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.840 always been like really competitive because from the beginning it 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.200 was viewed as like really glamorous. 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.520 In the beginning. In the beginning, for sure, I don't 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:23.440 know from the beginning. 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:31.280 So because it's been a really competitive career, Chuck. 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:34.680 And because the airlines were run by like men who 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.200 were decided that they owned their flight attendants because they 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.720 ran the airlines. There was in that sixties, the swinging 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.640 sixties era of that sexy stewardess thing you were talking about, 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:50.440 like they were a major draw for airlines. Sure, and 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:54.960 the airlines like advertisements such so I've got found something. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:13:00.000 This is in that Travel and Leisure article I found 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:00.720 you ready for this? 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:01.280 I am. 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.760 This is going to knock your socks off. I purposefully 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:08.440 didn't send this to you because I want you. Yeah. So, 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:13.160 National Airlines in the sixties had an advertisement where they 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:17.040 had flight attendants Debbie, Chryl and Karen and they could 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:22.120 fly me. They also had an alternate slogan, I'm going 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.640 to fly you like you've never been flown before. 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:26.400 And these are print ads. 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:33.040 Yeah, okay, Continental, well Continentals his name bran If had one. 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.600 Their advertising said does your wife know you're flying with us? 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.079 Yeah? Yeah. 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:43.200 Pacific Southwest said you want an aisle seat because all 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:45.640 of our flight attendants have mini skirts and sometimes they 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:50.480 drop stuff basically and then get this, Eastern Airlines gave 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:54.160 out little black books to their male passengers so they 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.080 could get the numbers of the stewardesses, the flight attendants. 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.400 And then Quantus had a slogan, ever seen a tick fight? 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:01.000 Crazy? 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:05.320 You're right, it's basically the sentiment behind it. And so 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:09.200 you've got the airline's advertising this, and then the flight 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.960 attendants unions are fighting this stuff tooth and nails, to 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.760 be treated in a dignified manner and not be fired 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.640 because you weigh one hundred and twenty two pounds, right, which, yeah, 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.160 it's just crazy. This is like, this was the way 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:22.160 that it was back then. 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.360 Yeah, your show up for work and it's like, hey, honey, 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:28.080 get on the scale, and when's your birthday again? Yeah? Terrible. 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.080 You kind of went to a Bill Clinton. There sounded 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.320 a little Bill Clinton. I thought it sounded like, w 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:35.880 all right, well, let's let's take a break then and 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.120 work on our presidential accents and we'll come back and 0:14:39.240 --> 0:15:10.200 talk about post nine to eleven flying. All right. So 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.800 we did mention that after nine to eleven, things of 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:18.160 course did change, and things changed in a big way 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:22.680 for flight attendants. They not that they never trained on safety, 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.520 but I think the training got way more intense. 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:27.920 Yeah did you see that one I sent you? Yeah, 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.440 from I think the Points Guy's website. 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:31.800 Yeah, we should go over that now. 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:33.160 Actually, so, he. 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:37.040 Has a flight attendant insider who writes quite a bit 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.640 for his site. I don't remember her name, but just 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:43.600 look up the Points Guy flight Attendant insider and she 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.760 goes into great detail about what it's like to go 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:50.600 through training and is more intense than I realized it was, 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:51.120 for sure. 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.920 Yeah, they and this depends on the airlines, but they 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.920 sort of give averages. The average training is seven weeks, 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.360 but they can be as long as twelve weeks, talking 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.800 six days a week, twelve hours a day. And they 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:05.760 call it Barbie boot camp because you don't show up 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.600 in your sweats and tank top with no makeup. 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.760 Right, it's not like you're a passenger. 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.600 No, yeah, exactly, you're big fuzzy slippers and your pillow 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:17.240 from home. Now, you show up as if you are 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.040 there to work a flight. So you have to be 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.480 in whatever attire that they require you to be in 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.200 and have your hair done however you would do it 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:30.320 and just basically be game day ready, and then they 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.920 work you that many hours a day, because that's about 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.120 how many hours a day you're gonna be working. Yeah, 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:36.040 when it's a flight attendant. 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.680 When you start working, at first, you have very little 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:44.320 control over your own schedule, although I get the impression 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:47.280 you have flexibility out of the gate, But if you 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.320 say I want to work this many days a month, 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.440 that's the input you have at first until you start 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:53.560 to develop seniority. 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:54.960 So yeah, they expose you to that. 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:58.960 Yeah, six days a week, twelve hours a day during training. 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:02.600 For many weeks. So the first thing they do is 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.560 learn all the safety equipment. They're given written tests that 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.520 she said that they had to score at least a 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.120 ninety on eighty. 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:13.720 I said, they're really weird, didn't I. 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:15.320 Yeah, Well, she said if it was a eighty, they 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:16.639 had to retake it, So they had to score at 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.080 least a ninety to pass. 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:18.560 I got you. 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:22.760 And then practical exams where you had to score one 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:26.720 hundred percent on these practical tests. And that basically means 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:30.280 you were on a fake plane doing the thing, and 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.760 it's not like you're serving that diet coke wrong's it's 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:37.320 mainly ninety percent of this training, ninety five percent in 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:41.359 this training. Yeah, that's what she said, is equipment safety, 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:43.000 all that stuff, right. 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.159 Like the first stuff where they're giving these tests that 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:48.600 you have to score high on is here's all of 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.399 the stuff you need to know about the equipment. And 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.120 then there's the drills where you're showing that you know 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.080 how to use it in these stimulated emergencies. 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:57.560 Right, you know, like smoke's pouring in a cabin, what 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:58.040 do you do? 0:17:58.240 --> 0:17:58.919 Did you see that? 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:02.960 One picture of Emirates Airlines is like the big like 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:06.000 a third of an Emirates plane basically the main cabin 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.919 with the slide out going into a pool inside like 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.159 a hangar, and you're like, oh, they're going to have 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.719 to go down that slide. There's no way they're not 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.320 going down that slide, and high heels and everything too. 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.399 But they're running these drills and apparently this is a 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:24.680 big This is where most people wash out, she said, 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.080 was during the drills because it's so stressful. And also 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.080 she points out that because this job always has been 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:36.240 and still is so competitive, that the airlines can choose 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.600 to be super picky, so they will drop you from 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.720 these training programs pretty easily and quickly because they know 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:46.920 that they can find somebody else who could do it better. 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:48.720 Right, Yeah, so you end up with the cream of 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:49.480 the crop in the end. 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:50.080 Exactly. 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:51.639 That's a really good way to put And then she 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:54.200 says that really the last thing they learned and the 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.080 stuff that they spend the least amount of time on 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.200 is the actual customer service stuff like pushing the beverage cart, 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.200 where they know exactly what to do during if sudden 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:06.320 turbulence hits and there's a beverage cart. They are taught 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:08.959 less how to pour that diet coke or whatever. 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.280 I think, like, I think I could do that. 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.600 The pouring the stuff. I would get so stressed out. 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:17.199 The whole thing, Like I've seen it enough now. We 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:20.280 travel enough for work where if like a flight attendant 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.280 was like, oh my ankle, I could throw on the 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:24.960 vest and run beverage service. 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:26.960 You'd be like, step aside, I've got. 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.120 This, Like I know exactly how they're doing it. I'm 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:29.719