1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Happy Saturday. Chuck here delivering a brand new 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Selects episode. But it's really not brand new, because, as 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: we all know, these are reruns carefully curated and selected 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: by both Josh and I each week. This one comes 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: to you from December seventh, twenty seventeen. How Flight Attendants Work. 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: Just got back from touring in the Midwest, and I 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: went on quite a few flights and made sure I 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: gave my appreciation to all the flight attendants because they 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: do such great work and I think are often underappreciated. 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: So if you want to know what they are actually 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: doing on their job and a little bit about how 12 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: you get hired some behind the scenes stuff, check out 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: this episode right now, How Flight Attendants Work. Welcome to 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: Stuff you should know, A production of iHeartRadio. 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: I'm Josh Clark with me as part of your cabin cruise, 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: Charles W. Chuck Bryant filling the whole thing out is 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: our pilot Jerry Rowland Captain James as we'll call her 19 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: from now on. 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: If you'd like to return your seat, do it's full 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: upright position, but along with your trade table. 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: If you've lost your device, or phone in the seat, 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: don't touch it, just come get one of us. Did 24 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 3: that happen to you? It's a new thing, what tell me? No, 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: it's like a new thing on Delta. And like the 26 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: safety instructions, they actually take a little time to say, 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 3: if you've lost your tablet or phone in your seat, 28 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: don't adjust it, come get a flight attendant. 29 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: What do you mean lost in the seat? What do 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: they mean? 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 3: Like if you have if you're sitting there and you 32 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: got the butter fingers, you know, like you turn into 33 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: Jerry Lewis all of a sudden your phone slides down 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 3: into the seat beside you or in between the seat 35 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 3: next to you. Okay, your phone is in grave danger 36 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: if you adjust your seat back upright again. Oh, like 37 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: I say, get a flight attendant, because they now have 38 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: additional skills in their repertoire to get your tablet or 39 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: phone out safe. 40 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: So at some point a memo went out to these airlines. 41 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: It said, we're breaking cell phones because people are like, well, 42 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: maybe if I just throw my seat up, it'll pop out. 43 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: Sure, it'll shoot right out, like like I pressed rewind 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: on life. 45 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: Weird. 46 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: Anyway, this is stuff you should know. 47 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: The uh I thought this was pretty interesting actually, and 48 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: it gave me even more of an appreciation for flight attendants. Yes, 49 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: then I had already gained over my ears. 50 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, because if you're one of those puttses who's mean 51 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: to flight attendants you get. 52 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: Off the plane, you're a jerk. Yep. 53 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: Shouldn't be mean to people anyway. 54 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 3: Like everybody's walking around carrying their own burden that you're 55 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 3: totally unaware of. And if you're mean to somebody, it 56 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 3: usually is because you're not getting what you want, right then. Yeah, 57 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 3: So if everybody can just calm down and be nice 58 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 3: to each other, that's great. But be extra nice to 59 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 3: the flight attendants. And if you don't agree with me, now, 60 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: I guarantee you'll agree with us at the end. 61 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: Of the podcast. 62 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: And even in our own article here, there was a 63 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: interview with a flight attendant, a couple of them, a 64 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: couple of them, but one of them, very you know 65 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: of these vets, said, h you know, back in the day, 66 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: everyone was all excited when they flew, they were going 67 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: someplace fun. Now everyone's crabby. 68 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but she makes a really good point. Why. 69 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: She says, it's because this is all post nine to 70 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 3: eleven that the added layers of security that they've put 71 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: onto getting from your car onto the plane increases stress 72 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: so much that you're exhausted by the time you get 73 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: onto the plane. And if flying has become a chore 74 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: a task, yes, by the seats have gotten way smaller. 75 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: I do buy that the leg room's gotten smaller. And yeah, 76 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: I think that it's just kind of become more of 77 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: like a let's get from point A to point B. 78 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I taking your shoes off, taking your laptop out, 79 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: it's about all the extra security. No big deal, That's 80 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: what I say. 81 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: Did I tell you I've gotten kind of on board 82 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: your train about taking your shoes off on a flight? 83 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: Oh to not do it? 84 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Good, So every once in a while just be like, 85 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: to hell with that. 86 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: I don't care. I'm taking my shoes off. I know 87 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: my feet don't stink, right, But I understand that there's 88 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 3: people like you out there who are deeply offended by 89 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: that kind of thing, So I typically do leave them 90 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: one unless my dogs are just yeap and so so loud. 91 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: I can't. 92 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't ignore it, but it's pretty rare these days. 93 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: I think my deal with that is is you can't 94 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: count on everyone's feet to not stink, right, and I 95 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: think plenty of people are like, I don't care. 96 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 2: That their feet stink. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty rotten. 97 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: I just want to be comfy. 98 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: That's pretty rotten. But we live in something called society. 99 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: There are rules. 100 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: But getting back to the new regulations, which is pretty 101 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: much laptop out, shoes off. I mean you still had 102 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: to go through the line just like before, you. 103 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, it seems it feels different to me. Yeah, 104 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 3: it does. 105 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: Different as in more time consuming. 106 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, much more stressful, Like it's a it's not an 107 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: event like it was. It definitely used to be an 108 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: event in a person's life to go on an airplane. 109 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: Well, do you have a different feeling when you go 110 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: on vacation compared to work. 111 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: Travel as far as the airport goes. 112 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and how you feel about it the same, Yeah, 113 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: same stress. 114 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 3: Yes, a lot, a lot of it, to be fair, 115 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 3: is in my head. Yeah, to me, pretty much, the 116 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: worst thing that can happen to you is missing your airplane. 117 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 3: I can't I don't even want to imagine what happens 118 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: when you miss your airplane. Uman's like, it's not that bad. 119 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, she's kind of entertained, like 120 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 3: purposefully making us miss. 121 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: Your own version of cognitivebates. 122 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: But I don't want to miss it, so I generate 123 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: my own stress in a large part. But it does 124 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: seem like much more of a process than it was before. Okay, 125 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: how about you. You're fine with it? 126 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's no big deal, just shoes in 127 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: the laptop. Yeah, two bits. 128 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: But it does seem like and I read this Travel 129 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: and Leisure article about flight attendance where the author was saying, 130 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: I think she was quoting a flight attendant who was saying, like, 131 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 3: we've all kind of decided as a group that we're 132 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: fine with just getting on an airplane and getting to 133 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: where we're going, and it doesn't have to be this 134 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: luxury experience. And as a result, the price of an 135 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 3: airline ticket has come down dramatically compared to the golden 136 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 3: age of flying. 137 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but then it has gone back up since 138 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: it was pretty cheap. 139 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but relative to say, average income, it's I think, 140 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: much less than it wasn't say, like the sixties, But 141 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 3: in the sixties they were cutting like cuts of meat 142 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: on a cart in front of you. 143 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: I'm not kidding. 144 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: There was a carving station that they would move. I'm 145 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 3: not kidding. I've seen us. 146 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: I believe it. I think it's funny that that's the 147 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: definition of fancy is a carving station. 148 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: It really is. I mean it is. The guy had 149 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: the hat and everything. 150 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you and my extended family agree on that, 151 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: but it's. 152 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 3: And all of us take our shoes off while we 153 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 3: eat our carv But there used to be that there 154 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: were like piano lounges in first class lounge like they were. 155 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: It was like it was an event. 156 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: Sure, But the fact that it's gone is because we've 157 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: all said, no, we want we want to be able 158 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 3: to travel for less cost, right, with fewer frills. 159 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just kind of want to get there. I'm 160 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: with you there, Yeah, if that's what you think, or 161 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm with the airline industry. Yeah, I just hut me 162 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: on the plane and give me there. Maybe throw a 163 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: whiskey down my throat. Sure, and that's about all. There 164 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: you go banana maybe, yeah, if it's the morning. 165 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: But the people who are going to help you get 166 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: there banana and whiskey, Uh yeah, sure, Okay. The people 167 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: who are going to help you get there, they have 168 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: their job has changed over time, but they have not 169 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: because they are unsung heroes and have been from beginning 170 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 3: to end. 171 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: That's right. The early days of plane travel, they hired 172 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: young men to take care of the stewardship of the plane. 173 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: Cabin boys. Yeah, cabin boy at Chris Elliott movie. 174 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that was a boat cabin but still sure, 175 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: still a cabin boy. Yeah. And that was just sort 176 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: of the thing. And then this woman came along and 177 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: you dug this up. This really great. Her name was 178 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: Ellen Church the nineteen thirties, in nineteen thirty in fact, 179 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: and she was a nurse and a licensed pilot, so 180 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: she had it going on. And she said, you know what, 181 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: I have an idea Boeing air Transport, who would become 182 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: United Airlines. Why don't you hire eight women to take 183 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: care of you on your flight for three months and 184 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: just see how that goes. And it went great, and 185 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: they said, I think we're onto something here. 186 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 187 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 3: She actually pitched the idea because at first the execs 188 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: were like, no, it's a stupid idea. This is no 189 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: place for women. Yeah, and she said we'll get this. 190 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 3: How is a man going to say that he can't 191 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: fly because he's afraid of flying if he knows there's 192 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: a woman up there flying around, and they're like, actually, 193 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 3: that's pretty good psychology. So they took her up on 194 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: it and it became, yeah, a thing from that moment on. 195 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 3: But before her I have to say, if we're talking 196 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: gender nonspecific flight attendants, yes, a man had her beat 197 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 3: by eighteen years a German Man named Heinrich Cubis who 198 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 3: was the world's first flight attendant and he worked zeppelins, 199 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: including the graf Zeppelin in the Hindenburg. 200 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: Really yeah, did he die on the Hindenburgh? No? 201 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: He lived? 202 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 203 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 3: Very few people died on the Hindenburg. I think they 204 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 3: were mostly on the ground. Remember, I don't remember, because 205 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 3: the hydrogen burned up and the people who died were 206 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: ones who jumped. 207 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: That's what it was, is that it. Did we do 208 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: a show on that we've talked about before. Yeah, yeah, 209 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: one of our many, many, many short lived video series. 210 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: Oh right, of course. So at any rate, Ellen Church 211 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: changed the face of the flight attendant industry. And then 212 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: in in the sixties and seventies, of course it was 213 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: sort of a uh and this is not me talking here, 214 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: this is in the article. It was the sexy stewardess 215 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: phase of airline travel. Yeah, and that was definitely the 216 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: deal that you had weight limits and height limits. You 217 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: had to look a certain way and they put you 218 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: in the just the right outfit and it was all 219 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: about sort of, hey, get up there and look good 220 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: and serve drinks. 221 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: So and there were like those limits you talk about. Yeah, 222 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: technically there's still around. There are weight limits and height limits, 223 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: but they're restricted to you can't be so short that 224 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 3: you can't reach the overhead bins. 225 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all practical limits. 226 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: Right, you can't be so tall that you're just bumping 227 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: your head all over the place. 228 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 229 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: You have to be of the. 230 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: Adequate size to fit into a jump seat that the 231 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: flight attendants sit in. 232 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's it. 233 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: Back then, it was you have to weigh like, no 234 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: more than one hundred and twenty pounds, you have to 235 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: be this height, and it had everything to do with 236 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: looks and attractiveness. 237 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, in your third too, so you're fired. 238 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a thing like very early on, I 239 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:08,119 Speaker 3: think in the fifties. I think in the nineteen fifties 240 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: they started airlines started instituting age restrictions where once you 241 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: got to age thirty two, you were no longer eligible 242 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 3: to be a flight attendant. You might have a job 243 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 3: down on the ground, but you couldn't be a flight 244 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 3: attend anymore because you were too old according to them. 245 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: Plus also you couldn't be married. 246 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: Or have kids. 247 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: Right. 248 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very restrictive back in the day. 249 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: Also maybe the most sexist industry that's ever existed. 250 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: And of course that's airline dependent. It's not like it 251 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: was a federal regulation. Yeah. Yeah, so it all depended. 252 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: But you need a high school diploma in the very 253 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: least these days. But they're very competitive jobs to get 254 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: you gone to the days where you can just waltz 255 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: in there with a headshot and get a job as 256 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: a flight attendant. A lot of people want these gigs, 257 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: and so if you have a college degree, then you 258 00:11:58,440 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: definitely have a leg up. 259 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: These definitely, But it's always been pretty competitive. Supposedly, in 260 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: two thousand six, Delta announced that they had one thousand 261 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 3: openings and got like one hundred thousand applications. But it's 262 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 3: always been like really competitive because from the beginning it 263 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: was viewed as like really glamorous. 264 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: In the beginning. In the beginning, for sure, I don't 265 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: know from the beginning. 266 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: So because it's been a really competitive career, Chuck. 267 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 3: And because the airlines were run by like men who 268 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: were decided that they owned their flight attendants because they 269 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: ran the airlines. There was in that sixties, the swinging 270 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: sixties era of that sexy stewardess thing you were talking about, 271 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: like they were a major draw for airlines. Sure, and 272 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 3: the airlines like advertisements such so I've got found something. 273 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: This is in that Travel and Leisure article I found 274 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: you ready for this? 275 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: I am. 276 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: This is going to knock your socks off. I purposefully 277 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: didn't send this to you because I want you. Yeah. So, 278 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: National Airlines in the sixties had an advertisement where they 279 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 3: had flight attendants Debbie, Chryl and Karen and they could 280 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: fly me. They also had an alternate slogan, I'm going 281 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: to fly you like you've never been flown before. 282 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: And these are print ads. 283 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Continental, well Continentals his name bran If had one. 284 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: Their advertising said does your wife know you're flying with us? 285 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah. 286 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 3: Pacific Southwest said you want an aisle seat because all 287 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: of our flight attendants have mini skirts and sometimes they 288 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 3: drop stuff basically and then get this, Eastern Airlines gave 289 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: out little black books to their male passengers so they 290 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 3: could get the numbers of the stewardesses, the flight attendants. 291 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: And then Quantus had a slogan, ever seen a tick fight? 292 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: Crazy? 293 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 3: You're right, it's basically the sentiment behind it. And so 294 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 3: you've got the airline's advertising this, and then the flight 295 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 3: attendants unions are fighting this stuff tooth and nails, to 296 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: be treated in a dignified manner and not be fired 297 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: because you weigh one hundred and twenty two pounds, right, which, yeah, 298 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: it's just crazy. This is like, this was the way 299 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: that it was back then. 300 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, your show up for work and it's like, hey, honey, 301 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: get on the scale, and when's your birthday again? Yeah? Terrible. 302 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: You kind of went to a Bill Clinton. There sounded 303 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: a little Bill Clinton. I thought it sounded like, w 304 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: all right, well, let's let's take a break then and 305 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: work on our presidential accents and we'll come back and 306 00:14:39,240 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: talk about post nine to eleven flying. All right. So 307 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: we did mention that after nine to eleven, things of 308 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: course did change, and things changed in a big way 309 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: for flight attendants. They not that they never trained on safety, 310 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: but I think the training got way more intense. 311 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: Yeah did you see that one I sent you? Yeah, 312 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: from I think the Points Guy's website. 313 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we should go over that now. 314 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: Actually, so, he. 315 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 3: Has a flight attendant insider who writes quite a bit 316 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 3: for his site. I don't remember her name, but just 317 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: look up the Points Guy flight Attendant insider and she 318 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: goes into great detail about what it's like to go 319 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: through training and is more intense than I realized it was, 320 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 3: for sure. 321 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, they and this depends on the airlines, but they 322 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: sort of give averages. The average training is seven weeks, 323 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: but they can be as long as twelve weeks, talking 324 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: six days a week, twelve hours a day. And they 325 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: call it Barbie boot camp because you don't show up 326 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: in your sweats and tank top with no makeup. 327 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: Right, it's not like you're a passenger. 328 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: No, yeah, exactly, you're big fuzzy slippers and your pillow 329 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: from home. Now, you show up as if you are 330 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: there to work a flight. So you have to be 331 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: in whatever attire that they require you to be in 332 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: and have your hair done however you would do it 333 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: and just basically be game day ready, and then they 334 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: work you that many hours a day, because that's about 335 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: how many hours a day you're gonna be working. Yeah, 336 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: when it's a flight attendant. 337 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: When you start working, at first, you have very little 338 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: control over your own schedule, although I get the impression 339 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: you have flexibility out of the gate, But if you 340 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 3: say I want to work this many days a month, 341 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 3: that's the input you have at first until you start 342 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 3: to develop seniority. 343 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, they expose you to that. 344 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, six days a week, twelve hours a day during training. 345 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: For many weeks. So the first thing they do is 346 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: learn all the safety equipment. They're given written tests that 347 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: she said that they had to score at least a 348 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: ninety on eighty. 349 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 2: I said, they're really weird, didn't I. 350 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, she said if it was a eighty, they 351 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: had to retake it, So they had to score at 352 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: least a ninety to pass. 353 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: I got you. 354 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: And then practical exams where you had to score one 355 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: hundred percent on these practical tests. And that basically means 356 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: you were on a fake plane doing the thing, and 357 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: it's not like you're serving that diet coke wrong's it's 358 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: mainly ninety percent of this training, ninety five percent in 359 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: this training. Yeah, that's what she said, is equipment safety, 360 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: all that stuff, right. 361 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 3: Like the first stuff where they're giving these tests that 362 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: you have to score high on is here's all of 363 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 3: the stuff you need to know about the equipment. And 364 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 3: then there's the drills where you're showing that you know 365 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 3: how to use it in these stimulated emergencies. 366 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: Right, you know, like smoke's pouring in a cabin, what 367 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: do you do? 368 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 2: Did you see that? 369 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 3: One picture of Emirates Airlines is like the big like 370 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 3: a third of an Emirates plane basically the main cabin 371 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 3: with the slide out going into a pool inside like 372 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 3: a hangar, and you're like, oh, they're going to have 373 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 3: to go down that slide. There's no way they're not 374 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 3: going down that slide, and high heels and everything too. 375 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 3: But they're running these drills and apparently this is a 376 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 3: big This is where most people wash out, she said, 377 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 3: was during the drills because it's so stressful. And also 378 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 3: she points out that because this job always has been 379 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: and still is so competitive, that the airlines can choose 380 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: to be super picky, so they will drop you from 381 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 3: these training programs pretty easily and quickly because they know 382 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 3: that they can find somebody else who could do it better. 383 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, so you end up with the cream of 384 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: the crop in the end. 385 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: Exactly. 386 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 3: That's a really good way to put And then she 387 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 3: says that really the last thing they learned and the 388 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: stuff that they spend the least amount of time on 389 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 3: is the actual customer service stuff like pushing the beverage cart, 390 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 3: where they know exactly what to do during if sudden 391 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 3: turbulence hits and there's a beverage cart. They are taught 392 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 3: less how to pour that diet coke or whatever. 393 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: I think, like, I think I could do that. 394 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: The pouring the stuff. I would get so stressed out. 395 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: The whole thing, Like I've seen it enough now. We 396 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: travel enough for work where if like a flight attendant 397 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: was like, oh my ankle, I could throw on the 398 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: vest and run beverage service. 399 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: You'd be like, step aside, I've got. 400 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: This, Like I know exactly how they're doing it. I'm 401 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: paying attention. 402 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 3: Would you splint the person's ankle first and then take 403 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 3: over beverage service? 404 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: I would splint the ankle and then I would get up. 405 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: Do you want peanuts, pretzels or a bisco Off cookie? 406 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 2: Yep? 407 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: Do what kind of drink. 408 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: You want cancer peanuts anymore? 409 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: And sure you can't. 410 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 2: The other day, what, yeah, you have peanuts on a flight. 411 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they don't serve peanuts if someone's allergic. 412 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: But I don't think they banned peanuts. 413 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: It was my impression they have just stopped. 414 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: I've been on so many flights and they're like, well, 415 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 3: we've got peanuts, but you can't have because thirteen E 416 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 3: is alertic and everybody's like, now they have almonds. 417 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, they did have almonds on a Delta plat the 418 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: other day that was on They're delicious. 419 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 2: So you have peanuts on a flight, that's like a 420 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: Sela canth. 421 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: And then I'm a I'm a sucker for those Delta cookies, 422 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: so are you? I have? 423 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 3: I have desensitized to them. I actually just do pretzels. 424 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 3: Now does bisc Off cookies. I used to be a 425 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 3: junkie for them. 426 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: I like them. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's just 427 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: a little was a cinnamon treat in the air bread 428 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: something or other. 429 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: It's like a gingerbread gingerbread, but it's called speculose, which 430 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: is the worst name for a dessert treat on the plane. 431 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: It says that on the package Speculus. 432 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 2: It's like, uh, yeah, that's the original Dutch name for that. 433 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: Interesting. 434 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 2: I'll tell you where the money is, Chuck, where's that? 435 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: I don't remember what airline it is, but they have 436 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 3: this Dutch treat it's it's too thin, very sweet waffle 437 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 3: cookies with a caramel like inside. 438 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, carmel sandwich. 439 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: And they say, take this thing and put it over 440 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 3: your hot coffee and let the steam from the coffee 441 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 3: warm it up. And brother, you were on cloud nine. 442 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: Who tells you that the flight attendant the package? 443 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 3: Oh okay, the flight attendant doesn't tell you that, right, 444 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 3: They just go here, read this package. 445 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: That sounds like some fancy international type of line. 446 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 2: I know it was domestic. I think it was Midwestern though. 447 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 3: There's a lot of European immigrants from the nineteenth century, 448 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: so that would. 449 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: Exerting their influence. Yea, in all the best foody ways. 450 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: We got side tracked there, where were we? 451 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 3: Well, we were talking about how difficult the training actually is. 452 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's sort of the long and short of it. 453 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: I mean it's long, it's sort of grueling, and at 454 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: the very end is when you learn just that she 455 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: said that you learn that five percent of time you 456 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: spend is what you end up doing ninety nine percent 457 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: of the time, But you just have to be so 458 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: prepared for that one percent. In case something goes wrong, 459 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: you can just react on instinct. 460 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 3: Well, what's what made me feel really good was that 461 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 3: she said the flight attendants you were flying with are 462 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 3: so well trained, and they also have to go back 463 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 3: for annual training every year to learn like new stuff 464 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 3: that the airlines have figured out, learn new procedures, whatever. 465 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 2: And you know, anytime, say, like an airline. 466 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 3: Deploys a new jet in its fleet, they got to 467 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 3: go figure that out because the safety stuff's in different 468 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: places and they need to know this stuff and they 469 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: need to be able to remember it and act on 470 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 3: it during an emergency. So I guess I didn't really 471 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: realize this, but any flight attendant on a commercial aircraft 472 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: that you're flying is capable of saving your life should 473 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 3: an emergency arise. 474 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean they talk about they even go through 475 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: like a baby birth in training, right. 476 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 3: So the next time you want to yell at them 477 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: because they're saying the overhead space is full, remember that 478 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 3: that person can save your life if this plane starts 479 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 3: to go down. 480 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: Or lands in the water or something. 481 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: And it's not their fault. The over head space is full. 482 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 3: It's it's all the people who put their bag up 483 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: and then walk to the back of the plane. 484 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: Are you talking about the worst people on earth? 485 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 3: The worst people? And they took their shoes off as 486 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: they were walking back. 487 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: Oh man, why did people do that? 488 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I was on a flight the 489 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 3: other day and I've never seen overhead space more screwed 490 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 3: up by just a handful of people who did back. 491 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 3: It was crazy, Like toward the end, people who were 492 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: sitting in like the first you know, five rows after 493 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 3: first class, we're having to go to the back of 494 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 3: the plane and you're just like watching them like, oh man, 495 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 3: you poor person as you're as you're walking off the 496 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 3: plane and they're just sitting there waiting to get their bag. 497 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. 498 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think when they started charging for bags, that's 499 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: when everything went berserk because nobody wants to check their 500 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: bag except me. I don't mind. 501 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 2: Now that's crazy to me. 502 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never lost a bag, so I don't mind. 503 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: I don't have to sweat it. I mean, this is 504 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 1: a if I'm just going on a work trip. I 505 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: don't even have my roller bag anymore, and I will 506 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: buzzmarkt them all day. My red Ox oh really yeah, 507 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: my red Ox shoulder bag. 508 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 509 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: Uh, the thing is great and I can fit everything 510 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: in there. But if I'm going on like a vacation, 511 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: and I know you think it's heresy, but I will 512 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: check that bag and relax, Hey, my day away. 513 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to yuck your yom here. 514 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 515 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: If you want to check your bag, that's fine. 516 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: Or gate check it. That's the good deal because you 517 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: don't have to pay there. 518 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 3: Okay, I have no problem with gate checking it at 519 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 3: the plane, so it's just stowed in a handy manner, 520 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 3: so you just walk off and they hand it to you. 521 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: That's fine. 522 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 3: But there are very few things that you can do 523 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 3: that is a bigger waste of time than standing around 524 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 3: waiting for your bag to make. 525 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: It to the bag carousel. 526 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 3: I hate doing that, especially when you're ready for vacation 527 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 3: to start. 528 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't mind because most airports, my bag's cruising 529 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: around that thing by the time I get to baggage. 530 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah for me, okay, and that's just because 531 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: I U I don't know. I don't like having to 532 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: mess with fighting a bag a suitcase on a plane. 533 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: I don't like contributing to that whole process, much less 534 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: being a business traveler. Like you see those dudes that 535 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: have the the roller bag with the big bag on 536 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: top of that and then a backpack. You're like, dude, 537 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: that's like you, that's three pieces of luggage. 538 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 2: You need to merge them, all right. 539 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: But this is not about just us complaining about traveling. 540 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: Get back to the flight attendants, get back to us. 541 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: So customer service. It is the goal of the flight 542 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: in it to keep you happy as possible. But also 543 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: you know they don't have to indulge you once you 544 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: have passed the point of sobriety or just jerkness. They 545 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: don't deal with that stuff anymore. Like they will stop 546 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: boarding the plane if you were drunk before you get 547 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: on and have you escorted off. It's it's serious business. 548 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: Now you shouldn't get on a plane if you're loaded. 549 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: No time was they would get you loaded on the plane. 550 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 2: Now they yeah, they do. They don't mess with that. 551 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: But they are long days, so like we said, twelve 552 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: hour days. They are if you're if you're new, like 553 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: you said, earlier. They don't have a ton of control 554 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: over their schedule. So you're gonna be working a lot 555 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 1: of weekends. Everybody's gonna be working some weekends. You're gonna 556 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: be doing overnight trips, spending the night in cities, and 557 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: that can sometimes be fun if you put a positive 558 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: spin on. 559 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 2: It, sure, or it can be a big drag. 560 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 561 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: But one thing that I had seen across the board 562 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 3: from all the sources I hit for this was that 563 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 3: you it's up to you how much or how little 564 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 3: you fly up to I think one hundred hours a month, 565 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 3: there's like a maximum you can you can work. 566 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: Right, They probably minimums, do, don't you think? 567 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 3: Or no, not that I saw. I'm probably menial to 568 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: get perks, because probably do. Yeah, But I get the 569 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: impression that that's actually once you've done it for like 570 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 3: six months. Typically when you're hired on for an airline, 571 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 3: you're on a probationary six month period on the perks. Yeah, 572 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 3: because they don't want just you know, everyone, They don't 573 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 3: know you from anybody, they've known you for seven weeks, 574 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 3: they just trained. 575 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: You, right, you I want ten buddy passes and then 576 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to quit my job. 577 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: Exactly. Well, I saw another thing too. 578 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 3: Apparently buddy passes are like the worst thing that's ever 579 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 3: happened to a flight attendant. Yeah, because everybody begs for him. 580 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 3: But they are like really actually bad passes. Like you're 581 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 3: at the end of standby and if your friend, if 582 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: you give the buddy pass to your friend and they 583 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: start yelling at the gate agent, you get in trouble 584 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: because it was your buddy pass that was being used. 585 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 3: You might even have your perks revoked because your friend 586 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 3: was a jerk to the gate attendant and everybody's always 587 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: asking you for him. So a lot of people just 588 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 3: don't even touch the buddy pass perk. 589 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: That's like, if you're a country club member, you're responsible 590 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: for the behavior of your guests right now, not that 591 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: I would know. 592 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 3: There are other perks, you know, know you've seen Caddyshack. 593 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I've never like belonged to the country club. 594 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 3: There are other perks where like family members, immediate family members, 595 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 3: sometimes extended family members, spouses, they get the same perks 596 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 3: you do, which very frequently is like you just pay 597 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 3: taxes on the tight and you fly for free. That's different, 598 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 3: Like all flight attendants take advantage of that, some of 599 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 3: them will will hop on over to Europe or something 600 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 3: for you know. 601 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: Lunch one hundred bucks. 602 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah maybe if that in tax. Yeah. 603 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: Well, buddy passes used to be a lot easier when 604 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: they didn't over sell all the flights. You know, Like 605 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: I used to have friends back in the day. I'd 606 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: get a buddy pass fly no problem, right, But now 607 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: you're right, you're in a bad position. 608 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah you are. 609 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 3: Do you remember flights where like entire rows would be empty. 610 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: They'd be like, well, the flight was scheduled, so we 611 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: have to we have to stick to it. 612 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 2: It's it's strange, what a day. 613 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: So you're gonna be working seventy five to eighty five 614 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: hours a month generally, but like you said, I guess 615 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: you can't go over that one hundred mark. And interestingly, too, 616 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: another thing you get trained for is very sadly human trafficking. 617 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: These days, they will fly kidnapped people right in front 618 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: of people's faces, and so flight attendants now are trained 619 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: to spot this kind of activity, which can mean like 620 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: an adult who doesn't really understand about the final destination, 621 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: that's a bad sign. Yeah, Or if it's like an 622 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: adult traveler with a minor and they just it definitely 623 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: looks like a little more than parental behavior going on, 624 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: like don't get up and go to the bathroom and 625 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. 626 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 2: Apparently that's how it started. 627 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: There was a man who caught the suspicion of a 628 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: flight attendant named Sandra Fiorini. She worked for American Airlines. 629 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 3: She noticed that like a late eighteen year old teenager 630 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: age guy who was had an infant that still had 631 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 3: the umbilical cord attached, and like a bottle of milk 632 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: in his pocket, a couple of diaper stucks his in 633 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: his pocket his other pocket, so like this baby was 634 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: stolen or bought or something. And she started looking into 635 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 3: it and found out that there was actually a big 636 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: deal and teamed up with a woman named Deborah Sigmund 637 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 3: who founded Innocence at Risk, and they kind of started 638 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 3: this program where now, if you're a flight attendant, when 639 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 3: the things you're trained for is to recognize human trafficking, 640 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 3: and they actually a bunch of flight attendants volunteered at 641 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 3: the last Super Bowl to look for human trafficking because 642 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 3: apparently the Super Bowl is like also the super Bowl 643 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 3: of prostitution and human trafficking in the world every year. 644 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 3: So flight attendants went to the Super Bowl and volunteered 645 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 3: to kind of like keep tabs on things and call 646 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: out people they thought. 647 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: Were amazing traffic. 648 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody wrote in and said, you can call it 649 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: super Bowl. 650 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: It can't do anything, can't like advertise anything using those words. Right, 651 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: I don't think. 652 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 3: We can't sell our Super Bowl bobble heads that we 653 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 3: have a box full of. 654 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 2: Too bad, it was a poor investment. 655 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 1: Should we take our final break here? Yeah, all right, 656 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: let's do that. We'll talk a little bit more about 657 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: some of the perks and drawbacks right after this. All right, 658 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: let's talk about pay baby, you don't make a ton 659 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: of money. I think starting salaries in the mid thirties. 660 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: Oh no, I know for a flight attendant. 661 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: That's no. 662 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 3: No, starting salary can be like eighteen oh really the 663 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 3: median And in twenty twelve or thirteen or fourteen was 664 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 3: thirty seven the median. Yeah, that's like that's the middle. 665 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 3: That's not much, you know. That's why it's such an 666 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 3: attractive a job for people who are just looking for 667 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 3: extra money. Right, if you're a parent and you have 668 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 3: so much control over your schedule, once you start to 669 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: get some seniority. 670 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great, great way to spend your money. 671 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 3: If you're a soap opera star, it's a great, great 672 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 3: extra job. Did you see that? 673 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? What was her name? 674 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: Kate Linder who plays Esther Valentine on The Young and 675 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: the Restless. 676 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: Who knew she's a flight attendant as well. 677 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: For like thirty two years. Yeah, and she's done them 678 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 3: both for about the same amount of time. Yeah, and 679 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 3: she does it like every week. 680 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and she says it helps keep her grounded no 681 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: pun intended. 682 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, she didn't say the no pun intended part. 683 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean she gets those perks, she gets 684 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: to fly to Europe for lunch if she wants, right, 685 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: and act on soaps. 686 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: Right, So good for her. And that's not to say 687 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: that that median. 688 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously that's the middle amount, but it goes 689 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 3: much higher than that. And it all has to do 690 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 3: all perks, all pay all benefits, all that stuff. The 691 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 3: flight attendant profession is all about seniority. 692 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: Oh sure. 693 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 3: And there are plenty of flight attendants out there who 694 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 3: are career flight attendants and you know, like Kate, Kate Linder, 695 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 3: she's been doing it for thirty two years. There's another 696 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 3: woman named Candy Bruton who is a forty three year 697 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 3: veteran of flight attendant. Yeah, like you can make a long, 698 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: happy career out of it now that they've taken that 699 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 3: age restriction off. 700 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty one dollars and twenty three cents. A few 701 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: years ago an hour was the rate for a first 702 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: year attendant. So plus twenty dollars an hour. But here's 703 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: the thing, and this is something that I bet ninety 704 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: five percent of human beings don't realize. When you were 705 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: sitting on that plane and those doors are open and 706 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: they're getting you your first class drinks, or they're helping 707 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: you put your bags away and you're complaining because you 708 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: don't have a pillow and coach. They're doing that for 709 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: almost free, because the only hours that they get paid 710 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: for at that rate are flight hours. 711 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, when it says the boarding doors now closed, the 712 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 3: clock just started for them. 713 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: Never knew that. 714 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: No, I didn't either. 715 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 3: They get something like, depending on the airline, maybe a 716 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 3: dollar fifty to or dollars ninety five an hour for 717 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 3: the pre the boarding stuff. The pre while the door's 718 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 3: open stuff, I guess is what you call it. 719 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, So like, next time you're sitting on the tarmac 720 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: and you're delayed for two hours and you're super grumpy, 721 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: think about that flight attendant who is getting paid almost 722 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: nothing to be dealing with how grumpy you are. 723 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 2: If the boarding doors closed, they would be getting paid, right. 724 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: No, they set in here if flight delays, they like, 725 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: flight time is the only thing that matters. 726 00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 2: I thought it was once the door. 727 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 3: So if the door's closed and you go out to 728 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 3: the runway and you're just sitting there on the runway, 729 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 3: they would be getting paid. 730 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: I thought that's not what it said. Somebody let us know, 731 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: because it said in the article. If next time you're 732 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: on a big flight delay, think about the fact that 733 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: they're not making any money. 734 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: I know. 735 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: And that's probably why the airline put it in there, 736 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: because can you imagine how much money they would have 737 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 1: to pay in flight attendants for flight delays. 738 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not like the flight attendants are just like, 739 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 3: I'm off the clock, don't bother me. 740 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: Once we get into the air, you can bother me. 741 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: You know. 742 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 2: You don't hear that, you know, so they should be 743 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 2: paying them for that. 744 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 3: Hey, I agree, you know, I think we should paying 745 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 3: together in start a social movement here. 746 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: I wonder why you should tip flight attendants too. 747 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a thing. 748 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: They should stand you know, the end, when they stand 749 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: there and say good day and I hope you enjoyed 750 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: your flight, they should be holding the jar as far 751 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, it's just shaking it. 752 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, throw five bucks in there on your way out, 753 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 2: bye bye. 754 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:52,959 Speaker 1: I think they'd be great. 755 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 3: You remember Tina Mucklough, the dB Cooper heist. Yeah, he 756 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 3: tried to give her ten twenty thousand dollars and she 757 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 3: said no, tipping aloud. 758 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: That's right. 759 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 2: What a hero. 760 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: And quite often flight attendants are the heroes on many flights, 761 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: whether it is dealing with literally a terrorist and trying 762 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 1: to manage that situation bravely, or God forbid, some sort 763 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: of incident in the air with you know, like with 764 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: the plane itself. But at the very least, those jerks 765 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: on planes that think they can just talk to people 766 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: however they want, they got to put up with a 767 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 1: lot in a very cramped space. 768 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 3: Very early on in flight attendant history. I don't know 769 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 3: if we said or not. You said that Ellen Church 770 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 3: was a registered nurse, but that was par for the course. 771 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 3: For early flight attendants, they had to be registered nurses. 772 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: Makes sense. 773 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 3: There was one named Nellie Granger who was a TWA 774 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 3: flight attendant and she was on a flight going to Pittsburgh, 775 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 3: I believe in nineteen thirty six, and it crashed and 776 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 3: she pulled a couple of passengers to. 777 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: Safety and. 778 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 3: It down the mountain to get help and went back 779 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 3: up with the rescuers to help minister to the two 780 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 3: injured passengers whose lives she saved. 781 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: And you got thirty cents an hour. 782 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 3: She got a trip to the with her aunt. That's 783 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 3: nice by TWA. Yeah, I got a couple more things. Sure, 784 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 3: there's some crazy stuff that flight attendants have seen. The 785 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 3: one that gets me though, is dead bodies on planes 786 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 3: that are purposefully brought onto planes, not people who die. Apparently, 787 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 3: Singapore Airlines has what's called a corpse closet on their 788 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 3: planes to stow a passenger who might die mid air. 789 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: That's nice. 790 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 3: They're in the minority there that I think there might 791 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 3: be peculiar with that. But sometimes because shipping a body 792 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 3: is very expensive, it can run into the thousands and 793 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 3: thousands of dollars. Some people say, well, it'd be cheaper 794 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 3: if I just bought a plane ticket or put my 795 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 3: mother in a garment bag and just smuggle her body 796 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: on board and took her where she's going to be 797 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 3: buried myself. Yeah, that a guy got caught doing that Miami. 798 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 3: There was in this Mental Floss article. There was the 799 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 3: person who was interviewed said her roommate found a mother 800 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 3: and a daughter trying to smuggle the dead father onto 801 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 3: a flight. Yeah, just in a wheelchair, and said that 802 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 3: he had the flu, but he was clearly dead and 803 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 3: they had to stop the plane mid flight. 804 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: Wow, maybe he did have the flu. 805 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 2: No, he was dead. 806 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 1: No, I mean maybe that's how I died. 807 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 3: Oh, maybe he previously had the flu. Yeah, it could 808 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 3: have been. Like there's a kernel of truth to what 809 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: we just said. 810 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 2: That's it. 811 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 3: Oh, and don't order to diet coke because apparently it 812 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 3: takes the longest to stop fizzing on a trolley. 813 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: Okay, that's science. 814 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 3: If you want to know more about flight attendants, just 815 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 3: chat up a flight attendant. I'm sure they'd love to 816 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 3: tell you some great stories. And in the meantime, it's 817 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 3: time for listener. 818 00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: Now, I'm gonna call this PSA about the flu because 819 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: we had someone Courtney Harmouth who was Askani who says this, Hey, guys, 820 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: want to basically give you a PSA about how dangerous 821 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: the flu can be. In twenty twelve, it was a 822 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: healthy high school freshman was suddenly stricken with a horrible 823 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: digestive distress, chills, fever, coughing. After a week or so, 824 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: my parents took me to the GP and I was 825 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: told to go to the hospital for observation and get 826 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: an IV. What was supposed to be one night turned 827 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 1: into a month. I'd contracted the swine flu. 828 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 829 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: That first night my vitals went crazy and I ended 830 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: up having to be kept in my local hospital for 831 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: two weeks. During my say, I developed pneumonia as a complication. 832 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: Soon after that, fluid began to fill my lungs and 833 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: I had to be helicopter to a larger hospital in Madison. 834 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 1: She said being in the helicopter was. 835 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 2: Pretty sweet though, oh really. 836 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, even though you know she was being. 837 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 2: Sick and a helicopter would not be comfortable. 838 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: I think she's a bright side person. 839 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 2: Okay. 840 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: For about twenty minutes, I was only taking in about 841 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: thirty percent and oxygen. My parents were told I could 842 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 1: have brain damage or may even die. On my arrival 843 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: to the larger hospital, I was immediately put to a 844 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: medically induced coma for eleven days. Oh my god, I 845 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: was finally taken out of my coma. I had atrophied 846 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: and weigh of measly ninety five pounds at twelve years old. 847 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: I had to relearn how to walk, write, and use 848 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: basic motor skills. I am extremely lucky. I am completely 849 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: recovered from the ordeal, did not suffer any long term 850 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: health effects, and now at twenty three years old, I 851 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: thankfully not had the flu. Sense I tell this to 852 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: everyone to say, please get vaccinated against the flu. The 853 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: flu vaccine doesn't just protect you, but also your kids, parents, friends, 854 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: and co workers. Really love your show. I want to 855 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: thank you for doing such a great job about important 856 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: and sometimes hilarious topics. That is our Wisconsinate fan, Courtney Harmouth, Thanks. 857 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 2: A lot, Cordney. Glad you made it through that one. 858 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 2: That was a pretty scary. 859 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, we said the flu could be dangerous, so you 860 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: have it. 861 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 2: Cordney just proved it. 862 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: Everybody. 863 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 3: If you want to tell us a great story that 864 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 3: is harrowing and amazing, we want to hear it, or 865 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 3: if you have a good flight attendant story that's a 866 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 3: good one too. 867 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 2: You can send us an email. 868 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 3: The Stuff podcast at iHeartRadio dot com. 869 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: Stuff you Should Know is a production of iHeartRadio. 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