WEBVTT - Vulnerability, Humor, and Hustle with Terry Crews

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<v Speaker 1>Well, welcome back to those amos. Is this part two

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<v Speaker 1>of our beautiful conversation with that brother Terry Crews. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Wilmer Aboud, Rama'm Freddie Rodriguez and be brought back into this.

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<v Speaker 1>What did that lead to?

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<v Speaker 2>Terry?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 2>What was the next thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow? What? This was so crazy. There was a Schwartzenegger movie, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and how I had did security on end of days.

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<v Speaker 3>We were all downtown LA. There was a Swartzenegger movie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and we and they were shooting downtown and I was

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<v Speaker 3>like the guy who watched I watched an alley for

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<v Speaker 3>like two months and all of a sudden and wait,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm gonna tell you this. This is another great story.

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<v Speaker 3>I was in charge of watching where the extras went

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<v Speaker 3>and the whole thing. And this guy comes up to

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<v Speaker 3>me and he says, hey, man, are you an actorate?

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<v Speaker 3>I said, no, sir, No, I'm security. He said, dude, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>you know I'm I'm Arnold Schwarzeninger's makeup artist. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>you should be acting, so you have a great look.

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<v Speaker 3>And I went, thank you, sir. His name was Jeff Dahn. Dude,

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, it's Sony right. So Sony needed

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<v Speaker 3>a bad guy heavy for one of their movies they

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<v Speaker 3>were doing with Arnold Sportzenegger. So they milled around and

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<v Speaker 3>they saw that I was on this show for Battle

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<v Speaker 3>Doome for two years and I became the heavy. And

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<v Speaker 3>I went in and an auditioned for this thing, and

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<v Speaker 3>the lady was like, you're pretty good. I was like oh,

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<v Speaker 3>she said, now, look you're a sweetheart. You gotta go

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<v Speaker 3>in there with the director and you gotta be pissed off,

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<v Speaker 3>don't even don't don't be nice at all. So I

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<v Speaker 3>remember going to His name was Roger Spottswood, the British director,

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<v Speaker 3>and I walked in there like, yeah, man, so you've

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<v Speaker 3>been have you been acting? I was like, Noah, I

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<v Speaker 3>do this, you know, yeah, you know. I was just

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<v Speaker 3>saying yeah. I was like, is it work it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I got the job. Yeah, my first audition for a movie,

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<v Speaker 3>I got you.

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<v Speaker 1>But but you had to read for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Read. But it was one read and it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 3>the other show where months go by. They're like you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be spending Now you're gonna go six months

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<v Speaker 3>in Vancouver with Arnold Sports and we're paying seventy five

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars, all the tough stuff went out. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I got this movie. I got it. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>what she's like, I told you this is you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>take it go. I'm in Vancouver, now this is man.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still scared of getting cut. I didn't now I

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<v Speaker 3>had imposter syndrome.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, this is a big movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixth day.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I remember when he was getting cloned, the

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing, and oh it was it was it was

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<v Speaker 3>wild man. I'm in and it's Arnold, like Arnold, Arnold,

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<v Speaker 3>what was that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you going said? And all it was sudden. Arnold's

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<v Speaker 1>walking up.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tell you this the first scene I ever had.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll never forget the first time I actually met him.

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<v Speaker 3>I was supposed to walk up to him and I

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<v Speaker 3>was say, I remember saying, I said his name. It

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<v Speaker 3>was like Roger So and so you come with us

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<v Speaker 3>and I because I walked up the steps and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh no, Adam Gibson. That's what was his name.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, Adam Gibson. I remember the line they come back,

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<v Speaker 3>Adam Gibson, Uh, come with us? I went, and Arnold's

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<v Speaker 3>looking at me. Because what happened is you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>open the door and he opens the door and Arnold,

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<v Speaker 3>oh no.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like okay, he's coming in. We're saying action and

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<v Speaker 1>Donald don't want to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, he just stayed there. You know what I

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<v Speaker 3>meant time, Sloop said waiting. You know, so I'm just going, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>don't be a problem, right dude. I froze, but something this. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>we gotta we got a light issue. Save my lass

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<v Speaker 3>because I froze and I went back and I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Pulling myself to the side. I said, dude, do you

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<v Speaker 3>want to go back and doing security? Do you want

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<v Speaker 3>to go back to I said, man, your wife, your family,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone is counting on you. And said, hey man, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a dude, just you. If you don't do this,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't deserve it now going there and saying lines

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<v Speaker 3>like and I was telling myself, don't you get into me, brother.

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<v Speaker 3>That next scene, I walked up in there with Adam

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<v Speaker 3>Gibson and come with us, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I like this guy. And I was like I can

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<v Speaker 3>see it on thro but it was like my first hit,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. It's like in football, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to get that first hit because you're scared. Every

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<v Speaker 3>NFL player, I don't care what they're talking about. They

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<v Speaker 3>scared until you get that first hit. Bout yeah you

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<v Speaker 3>go all right, I'm alive. Okay, boom, I can do this, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, man, And it was like go go oh,

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<v Speaker 3>my god. And the rest of the way. He was

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<v Speaker 3>so cool. He was cool to me. And I remember

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<v Speaker 3>he was with Marie at the time and his kids

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<v Speaker 3>were little. We were running around there. Man, this is

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<v Speaker 3>ninety nine. Yeah, the brother in nineteen ninety nine and

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<v Speaker 3>the way, and now it wasn't a hit, and it wasn't,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm going up, dude. I'm in a movie, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm just looking at I remember we were time

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<v Speaker 3>and they flew me and my wife. We flew us

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<v Speaker 3>from Rome, Italy for just the premiere there. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was going premiered in Rome. I don't know. It was

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<v Speaker 3>like the foreign people, but it was a premiere. But

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't really a premiere. It's like a screening. But

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't care. I was like, we're roll.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, hey, what it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Me and but my wife. I mean, let me tell you, man.

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<v Speaker 3>It was coming from that. It was like if that

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<v Speaker 3>would have been it, that would have been enough, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, Like that's a tree. And then

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<v Speaker 3>it kept going like yeah, I mean everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Did that movie once it came out? Did that performance

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<v Speaker 2>lead to something else?

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<v Speaker 3>Or you No, No, it led to nothing. You know what?

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<v Speaker 3>It led to something? Training Day? Oh, I was an

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<v Speaker 3>extra in Training Day. Remember after that, listen, I had

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<v Speaker 3>done the movie. It had to come out. Remember the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I had done the movie, and then you're at home.

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<v Speaker 3>You wait from the editor, you wait on So nobody

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<v Speaker 3>knew that I was in a movie. But I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>that movie's coming. But Training Day they were filming Training Day.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a location the location manager because remember I

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<v Speaker 3>did security and so the location man he said that, man,

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<v Speaker 3>Denzel's down here shooting in the jungle. Man, you want

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<v Speaker 3>to come by? I said yes, yes, because he heard

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing movies and stuff and I still had

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<v Speaker 3>done the Battle Dome shows, so it was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like it's so there I am. I'm across the street

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<v Speaker 3>from Battle Doome because l A Coliseum was right down

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<v Speaker 3>the street. So I'm so the gangs were like, hey man,

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<v Speaker 3>you got t money from uh? Because he would go

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<v Speaker 3>they were shot iaid what's up y'all?

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<v Speaker 4>Was?

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<v Speaker 3>They kind of knew me, so I kind of got

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<v Speaker 3>a pass with because they only had gang members from

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<v Speaker 3>from the jungle. But they were like, oh, man, alright

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<v Speaker 3>on he on that show, remember that show over there?

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<v Speaker 3>They were like okay. And I got and Bone, who

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<v Speaker 3>was one of the main main like actors slash gang

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<v Speaker 3>people who could he would do it off for all

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<v Speaker 3>the movies. And Bone gave me the path. Bone was

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<v Speaker 3>like you good, you good? You know Bone? Bone was good, dude, man,

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<v Speaker 3>and and Bone just blessed me. Man. So he so

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<v Speaker 3>then I'm watching I just want to wash this opp

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<v Speaker 3>dude and walks over to me and says, hey man,

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<v Speaker 3>you want to be in this movie. I said, take

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<v Speaker 3>your shirt off, We're going to the roof.

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<v Speaker 1>It was me so so you were just there, just

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<v Speaker 1>just checking it out. He was into just to watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's it, that's it. And you know that scene

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<v Speaker 3>with the and a Lonzo's coming down and cult the

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<v Speaker 3>sac that's me. He said, hey man, that was great.

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<v Speaker 3>Come back every night and we'll see where else I

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<v Speaker 3>can put You came back for two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>You had like close up yea hero showing.

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<v Speaker 3>When Denzel did his whole King Kong speech, he said,

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<v Speaker 3>you I want you standing right there looking at the

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<v Speaker 3>Zel and mad Dog in them. That was the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Because that was the moment where the hood was like

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<v Speaker 1>the magic is broken. Yeah, you're in the Magician anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>See yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when you when you when you give that energy,

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<v Speaker 1>it was represented of the whole block everything. It's like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not under the spell anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>It validated the whole film because they was like this,

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<v Speaker 3>dude stands for us. And then training day went.

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<v Speaker 1>How many takes did he do?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? He was going all night, but it was he

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<v Speaker 3>was in proved. He was going, dude, I'll never forget this.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually got a peek because the script was on

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<v Speaker 3>his car on that on that uh, on the on

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<v Speaker 3>the car Eliza, and he had written on it the

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<v Speaker 3>Wages of Sin is death because he knew he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>because they wanted to make sequels and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And I found out later he thought, you got to

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<v Speaker 3>kill me because he didn't die in the original script.

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<v Speaker 3>They wanted him to keep going like.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I didn't know that he wasn't supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to die.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, that state there and they were like,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, you know studios, they want to make

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<v Speaker 3>it cash cow and training day two day, he was like, nope,

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<v Speaker 3>got to kill me, Gotta kill me, because this allowed

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<v Speaker 3>him to be as bad as he could, like he

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<v Speaker 3>could just do anything, like but he knew the Senate deaf.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just soaking it all there like watching it.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the Academy Awards hit and my mother saw.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like they showed that scene was. Mother was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you want the Academy Awards.

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<v Speaker 1>Clip? Yeah, and he got the mother said you have

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<v Speaker 1>to know.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, you got you you got an oscar. I said, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't, but I'm in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they used that clip.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't call and got.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And then it cuts to you and you're there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm right. I'm just the whole time, the whole time,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's Jake, Jake. He's from Jake's walking off and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just still standing there looking at her. He's going

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<v Speaker 3>down the Coultor Stack product. I'll never forget that. David

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<v Speaker 3>wrote The Ship out of that Man. And David showed

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<v Speaker 3>up on set. It my first time meeting him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I wasna. He was on set and I was in

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<v Speaker 3>there and he was like, hey, what's uping? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>cool guy, I'm just but I'm talking in film works

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<v Speaker 3>and film because you know, I'm just over there trying

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<v Speaker 3>to be like, oh what how does that work? And

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<v Speaker 3>what was wild is that the crew did never wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to shoot in the jungle, so there was a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of problems because you know, these Warner Brothers guys, they

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to shoot it all in Santa Carita and NFL

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<v Speaker 3>say that. You know, one of the production guys got stoked,

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<v Speaker 3>like in the middle of the movie, like and they

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<v Speaker 3>but then I'll never forget man Craft Service Lady was

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<v Speaker 3>all like, they're they're over here eating all our boot

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<v Speaker 3>and the whole everybody like, because I did security too,

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<v Speaker 3>so I was like, eight, don't you ever say anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, all these people need to come in here

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<v Speaker 3>and eat whatever they want. You're in their neighborhood. It was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was that kind of you know, white Hollywood, and

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<v Speaker 3>I said, you gotta respect these people. You're in their house,

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<v Speaker 3>you're in there. It's not a film set. But Antoine

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<v Speaker 3>and Denzel said, we have to shoot here. There's no

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<v Speaker 3>way we're gonna rebuild this set. No we're going down

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<v Speaker 3>with the people.

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<v Speaker 1>That were right, Come on, right you felt that offense?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Oh it was all obvious. You know you

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<v Speaker 3>have people, you know, people all talking stuff because they're

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<v Speaker 3>thinking you just so and so you ain't a star,

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<v Speaker 3>so they start talking. Yeah you're like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, now you guys worked together in the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there har time?

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<v Speaker 2>Did did training day lead to you being in harsh time?

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<v Speaker 2>How did that work?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? Remember, training day led to a lot. Training day

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<v Speaker 3>led to Friday after next because cub saw because remember

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<v Speaker 3>I was security, the cubes saw me in and training

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<v Speaker 3>day was like that's he puts out there. Watch dude,

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<v Speaker 3>I got a call. I'll never forget. I'm sitting there, me,

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<v Speaker 3>Cat Williams sitting right next to each other, all this

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<v Speaker 3>your room, like this is the next Friday. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>next one. And then what happened is Tiny didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to come back, and so they rewrichrote because he was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to do it, so they rewrote it.

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<v Speaker 3>We wrote this character Damon, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all. And see my thing is I was going

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<v Speaker 3>to go in and I went in with people. So listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I have people that were so scared of me for

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<v Speaker 3>years because they thought, you know, they were like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 3>damn it. I had the tattooed on my chest and

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<v Speaker 3>I went in like whoa and people were like they

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<v Speaker 3>were watching playback, like damn And I was like quig

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<v Speaker 3>and day day just I need to see people like

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<v Speaker 3>the theater was like.

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<v Speaker 1>But for that to work, you had to show up

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<v Speaker 1>that hard.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm born and raised Flint is Compton's sister city, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I can't him up with I knew day listen. I

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<v Speaker 3>had to pretend to be Damon and go to art

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<v Speaker 3>school like because you gotta you gotta code switch, you

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<v Speaker 3>gotta act like this just in order to get past

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<v Speaker 3>the gangsters. And you're go in there like okay, that

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<v Speaker 3>stuck Star Wars guys, you know what I mean. Because

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<v Speaker 3>you in the hood, they like, hey, man, what your

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<v Speaker 3>careters portfolio? Yeah? Man, whatever, man, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 3>would fake like I was, you know, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>go into class like, oh, let me alone. And then

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<v Speaker 3>if sports was the way I survived because they see

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<v Speaker 3>you got a little neck, they go like, man, let

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<v Speaker 3>that dude alone. Man, he got he's gonna play football something.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the way you got by it was either

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<v Speaker 3>sports or you just hustle. So I knew damon and

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<v Speaker 3>I kicked into it. People like what. My wife hated it.

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<v Speaker 1>She hated that character.

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<v Speaker 3>What are my friends at church gonna?

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<v Speaker 4>One?

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<v Speaker 1>Are my friends at church?

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<v Speaker 2>How did how did CB react when all of a

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<v Speaker 2>sudden you're on set, You're you're playing this integral part

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<v Speaker 2>in the movie, and like a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 2>you were doing security for I mean, what was that dynamic?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, first of all, you know, I was thankful, thankful, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, you know. We had like a four banger,

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<v Speaker 3>five banger. I remember honey Wagons. I couldn't laid out.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like they can break up and they had

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you go get your lunch, you get come

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<v Speaker 3>in there. I'm like, I'm in the movies. I'm in

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<v Speaker 3>the movies. I'm so happy. And I would jump out

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<v Speaker 3>there and me and Cat, Me and me and Cat

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<v Speaker 3>made a pat Me and Cat said, Hey, if no

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<v Speaker 3>one ever, if we don't do anything after this, they

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<v Speaker 3>will never forget it. Yes, let's and Cat was homeless.

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<v Speaker 3>Cat was living in the trailer. Yes, you understand how

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<v Speaker 3>crazy this was. Because people were hustling. Man, people had

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<v Speaker 3>to make it, and when you go moving out to Hollywood, man,

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<v Speaker 3>people don't understand, like what happens is influencers think we

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<v Speaker 3>made it. But you know that you got a little following.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's man like in that day. To get noticed,

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<v Speaker 3>you had the sacrifice, like you had to really like

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<v Speaker 3>grind grind. He was doing Hollywood Park at night and

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<v Speaker 3>they're sleeping in the trailer. Wow. And he would wait

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<v Speaker 3>for everybody to go home and come back in hey man.

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<v Speaker 3>And I remember being there. Man, I was like cat Man.

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<v Speaker 3>He was like, dude, he said, we gotta do this, man,

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<v Speaker 3>And he said, if we don't, if we don't make

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<v Speaker 3>this so unforgettable, we just gonna be forgettable. And so

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<v Speaker 3>when we did that scene with the pliers and the

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing, and we were really crying. You understand, you

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<v Speaker 3>see that scene take the music out. It's drama all day.

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<v Speaker 3>We were crying and he was ah. He was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you are not.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not.

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<v Speaker 3>I I'm a board, dang man. People were in there

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<v Speaker 3>like this went to a hole in cube told me

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<v Speaker 3>he said, man, look, he said, dude, that first couple

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<v Speaker 3>acts is me and Mike. He said, but the whole

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<v Speaker 3>movie is you and cat he said, I gotta give

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<v Speaker 3>it up. He said, dog y'all took that to a

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<v Speaker 3>whole level that nobody. But that's why I knew. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>just go in. Yeah, there's nothing to lose. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. That doesn't mean being big, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it just means on it. What do you want to see?

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<v Speaker 3>Like That's what I kept asking myself, like, how would

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<v Speaker 3>I play this? What would I what would I say,

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<v Speaker 3>like how I want to see this character? And then

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<v Speaker 3>I would go into it, and man, that was that

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<v Speaker 3>was my only real you know what I mean at

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<v Speaker 3>the time.

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<v Speaker 2>But it seemed like from from T bone to that,

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of these characters.

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<v Speaker 1>Were hard right, Like but how does.

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<v Speaker 3>That lead the white chicks? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, how does how does somebody a director see

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<v Speaker 2>those movies and go, yup, he should be that guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it was so polar opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember watching that and going like, yo, this

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<v Speaker 2>different level. I was so impressed. I was so impressed

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<v Speaker 2>on so many levels. But I was so impressed by

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<v Speaker 2>your willingness to go to go that far because you

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<v Speaker 2>had already established a certain I don't want to say persona,

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<v Speaker 2>but people saw you a certain way, right in the characters,

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<v Speaker 2>and you could have kept going in that direction.

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<v Speaker 1>You can you could have held tight yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hell tight to that persona and being like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be portrayed in this way because

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<v Speaker 2>it may affect people like yeah, but what well made

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<v Speaker 2>you have the balls to go?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna try this right here, I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Go wanted it. I never wanted to be that guy

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<v Speaker 3>I want you.

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<v Speaker 1>Never wanted to play that came.

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<v Speaker 3>I never wanted to be hardcore. Oh because I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>But but that was your bread and butter though.

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<v Speaker 3>But because of the where I look see but this was

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<v Speaker 3>the new This is what I figured out, And I

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<v Speaker 3>figured there's a long time ago. It's the turn because

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<v Speaker 3>when you give people that you're like, you show up

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<v Speaker 3>as something, they go, hey, hey, he's not wait a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>And I started to do that because I could give

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<v Speaker 3>him all that. And where it happened was in a

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<v Speaker 3>movie called Malibu's Most Wanted. Okay, Malibu's Most Wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie in the back of clapping.

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<v Speaker 3>And wait, remember I We'll go all out. And it

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<v Speaker 3>was funny because Damian Ways, Who's dame? It was Sean

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<v Speaker 3>and Marlin's nephew was the main guy and I was

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<v Speaker 3>his backup, and I played a character named eight Ball, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was after Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>And this was after Friday, but you know, you're just working,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. I got to like auditioned and they were like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you'd be great behind someone. So I was like, cool,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm taking all the jobs right man. Because

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<v Speaker 3>what happened is a battle on was canceled and I

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<v Speaker 3>lost my house. I moved too fast, got a house

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<v Speaker 3>and couldn't afford it, and I was like, oh no,

0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:00.600
<v Speaker 3>and so we had to be lost our house. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was like okay. So now I'm just doing commercials

0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.920
<v Speaker 3>and anything I can do. And Malibu's Most Wanted came

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<v Speaker 3>up and I was like, oh great, so I could

0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:09.359
<v Speaker 3>be in this movie. And so I had a do

0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:14.479
<v Speaker 3>rag on and on again. Back to hardcore guy. But

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<v Speaker 3>I started doing stuff on set and they were like,

0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:19.840
<v Speaker 3>look what he's doing. There was one thing, you see

0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:21.520
<v Speaker 3>a scene where I was just start dancing like this,

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<v Speaker 3>my chain's going there, like.

0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:24.040
<v Speaker 1>When you're kind of popping.

0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were like, hey, hey, keep the camera on that.

0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:31.199
<v Speaker 3>And then I had one of the funniest lines in

0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:35.800
<v Speaker 3>the movie that was totally add lift right because what

0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:41.520
<v Speaker 3>was happening is Jamie Kennedy is talking to his dad

0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:45.120
<v Speaker 3>and he's like, oh and so we're getting all emotional

0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.879
<v Speaker 3>while we're watching it, like and he says, man, and

0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.000
<v Speaker 3>then I said, I wish I could talk to my

0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.320
<v Speaker 3>pops like that. That was my line, I wish I

0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:55.960
<v Speaker 3>could talk to my pops like that. Said I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>call that right now. And then Dave was like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>get your fan back here.

0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, you know, dude, They were like this

0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:18.440
<v Speaker 3>guy want to be funny. And then Dame Damien recommended

0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:25.520
<v Speaker 3>me to his as uncles. They said, we got this

0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.080
<v Speaker 3>one movie called White Chicks that's going on. Man, you

0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:31.080
<v Speaker 3>can come in an audition for this, and the dude,

0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:38.119
<v Speaker 3>I got so many stories. Yeah, dude, of course. All

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<v Speaker 3>right now, I have been trying to get on a

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:45.439
<v Speaker 3>TV show because we were like, man, I want to

0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.400
<v Speaker 3>because I was hopping from project to project whole thing.

0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:50.719
<v Speaker 3>So I was going, oh my god, if I can

0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:52.719
<v Speaker 3>get a TV show, and then my wife and kids

0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:57.399
<v Speaker 3>with Damon was looking for me, and my agent at

0:21:57.400 --> 0:21:59.600
<v Speaker 3>the time was like, dude, this is your job to lose.

0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:03.880
<v Speaker 3>They want you. They saw you and uh, Friday after

0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:08.879
<v Speaker 3>next and they said, oh my god, you got the heat. Dude.

0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:15.119
<v Speaker 3>I went in that thing and when I said bombed

0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:19.159
<v Speaker 3>the audition, oh my god. But like my hands were.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, what do you think that was? You feel like

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<v Speaker 1>your state of mind was like you really needed it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you know, we lost the house. We had just

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<v Speaker 3>got into a rental and we were like and then

0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:32.359
<v Speaker 3>it was like, it's yours to lose.

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<v Speaker 2>That's sometimes sometimes that that works in the opposite way

0:22:37.800 --> 0:22:39.000
<v Speaker 2>it does to lose.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, so, is that supposed to make you more confident?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for me, it makes me nervous.

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<v Speaker 3>You still got to hate me because I already was

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<v Speaker 3>shaky just about because I didn't have the training like

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, I'm acting with people who've been to

0:22:51.200 --> 0:22:54.159
<v Speaker 3>school for this, so I'm a little like, uh and

0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:56.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm watching on the fly, I'm looking at lips and

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<v Speaker 3>watching people's stuff and can I do this? I don't

0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:02.120
<v Speaker 3>know it's time that it's time for lunch. Okay, I'm

0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:05.400
<v Speaker 3>still learning the whole dude. And I went in there

0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:12.520
<v Speaker 3>uh uh, oh my god. And Kim Wayne's and all

0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:16.800
<v Speaker 3>of them, they're like, oh, I'll never forget her looks.

0:23:16.840 --> 0:23:21.560
<v Speaker 3>She's like soup. You can just see it like it's

0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:23.800
<v Speaker 3>all burning. And I was just like watching your.

0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Old We all have them, you know, we all had that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, well it went up in flames and I

0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 3>went and they just stopped, like thank you, they stopped.

0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:43.840
<v Speaker 3>That's okay. Yeah, and I knew I do one more time.

0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 1>No, no, that's okay.

0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 3>Now, guys, guys. I went to the car. I never

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:52.560
<v Speaker 3>forget this, got in a car, stealed the eastside bath.

0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:57.840
<v Speaker 3>I said, I'm done. I quit. It's hurt too much.

0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:02.120
<v Speaker 3>This hurts way too much because I you know, because

0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:03.639
<v Speaker 3>you get to a point where you can taste it

0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 3>and you're like the pain of that was because I

0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:11.439
<v Speaker 3>and you know, you go all night, you're practicing the

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 3>lines all night. I think I was prepared, you know

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 3>what I mean. You're old. You don't you're not even

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 3>they ain't putting your soul into it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going and out of pilot, right because you're not

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 1>flowing at that point, right, because.

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:28.440
<v Speaker 3>No, blow, it was terrible. And I said, I quit.

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 3>I quit. I just gotta find something else to do.

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 3>And I said, and my agent said, oh yeah, you

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:37.439
<v Speaker 3>got one more audition I said, oh man, it's Crosstown.

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 3>You're gonna meet with Keenan. Now, I went, oh man.

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Another way they talk to each other. They coach movie

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 3>called White Chicks, and I went, wait, this is what

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 3>you gotta think. It's a movie. I need a show.

0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:56.640
<v Speaker 3>But oh well, I just do another movie, like again Valliable.

0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:58.880
<v Speaker 3>I said, it'll It'll pay the bills for a couple

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:02.120
<v Speaker 3>of months. I go over there with ken I don't

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:09.840
<v Speaker 3>care no more. I'm like, I'm right right, I'm just

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:11.919
<v Speaker 3>going in there. I'm like, look at said, oh.

0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 1>That's what I a white girl with a black girls.

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 3>The boy was like oh, and I'm like, yeah, yeah,

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:24.439
<v Speaker 3>all right, I'm just he said, can you do that?

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:30.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I don't care anymore. And then they called.

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:33.679
<v Speaker 3>They say, hey man, you got this movie White Chicks.

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's cool. Did I know? I did not know

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 3>it would change the course of my life forever. Because

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:45.919
<v Speaker 3>I went up there and we shot in Vancouver again,

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:48.639
<v Speaker 3>and we were shooting it for the Hamptons and the

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 3>whole thing. It was the best time I ever had. Now,

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 3>you gotta understand Keenan. Every ways, it's a starmaker. All

0:25:56.520 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 3>those guys in living color but j low and you

0:26:00.600 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 3>know they in fact, dude, I'm not a set I'm

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:08.160
<v Speaker 3>not an SNL guy. I've always been an in living

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 3>color guy. Okay, so nothing beats in living color, you know.

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 3>So when I when I was up there and Damon

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 3>was like, dude, just do what you do, man, just

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:21.479
<v Speaker 3>do what you do. You rocking this, I was like

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 3>whoa And I felt remember how my wife came to

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 3>me and said you can do this. When Keenan was

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:31.199
<v Speaker 3>like you got this. I ain't to coach you, just

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 3>go and I was like who So he just.

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Kind of let you invalidated, like you her instincts were

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:37.199
<v Speaker 1>there in point You're locked in.

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 3>It was hitting? What hitting?

0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 1>But I gotta tell you man, so like going back

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:54.359
<v Speaker 1>to that movie, your performance had.

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 4>So many new houses that I was like, bro, that

0:26:59.240 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 4>hit me in so many ways, like the the like

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 4>you know when you were at the date, right like

0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:07.880
<v Speaker 4>you were at the date and you were just like really.

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Committed to this day. You know, like that you look

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:13.640
<v Speaker 1>across from you and it's like this monster.

0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 3>Looks like a monster. He was a monster for the lady,

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 3>perhaps the silad. You know, everything we would go there

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 3>was no end, like, wait, that's only stuff they got

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:31.920
<v Speaker 3>on camera. We was going and it was like yo,

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 3>Gus and Mark, Sean and Marlin were just you.

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Were free to fly.

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 2>You were free yeah and that and you feel that

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:43.679
<v Speaker 2>all those nuanceers that he's talking about was because he

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 2>was like, yo, just do or was that all like

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:49.640
<v Speaker 2>on the page or he didn't direct you that way?

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:55.199
<v Speaker 3>No, he he just trusted yea. He literally gave me

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 3>the green light. I said, so I could, so you

0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 3>should because it wasn't no check, it wasn't no oh no.

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 3>That's you ever have a director come in and start

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:07.160
<v Speaker 3>telling you lines how to say, yeah, man, you want it,

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:09.679
<v Speaker 3>like let's find it, like let's let's put it on

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 3>his feet.

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>But some writers, and some comedy writers, they wrote it

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and heard it and saw it a certain way in

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.199
<v Speaker 1>their brain, and when an actor comes in to do

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>what the actor is supposed to do, they have a

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.920
<v Speaker 1>tough time just like letting go of how it sounded

0:28:22.960 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>when they were in their laptop doing it, you know

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So for those times, you just you

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 1>really got to choose you, yeah, because if you choose

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>their way, you know that's where you are going to

0:28:35.080 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>not be able to sleep that night. Number two. You know,

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you really can have a faulty you know, start at

0:28:40.680 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 1>that and then when you go to the premiere and

0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you look at that, you're like, that wasn't me. It

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>wasn't Yeah, yes exactly. That's why you got to always

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>choose yourself when you're on that screen. You got to

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>always say, like, you know, we had a whole episode

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>here we're talking about how do we talk to directors

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>when we let them know that their take is not

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 1>that you know, how do we sugarcoat that thing?

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>And the truth is like you got to talk about

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>it like within your own strength. It's got to be

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:10.000
<v Speaker 1>your fault that you can't do it their way, but

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you got to say like, hey, I uh, within my strengths,

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>like I'll be able to sell it more if I

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>could just go here, you know and then take it there.

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 1>But to your point, going back to your performances and now,

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>as we do like a mental beautiful you know, love

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>story colash of all your performances and all the parts

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and all the moments if you've shown up, whether it's

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>like a cameo, whether it's like a great supporting part,

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 1>whether you're starting on your show, on your TV show

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 1>because also Brooklyn or I like we forget, like we

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>haven't even gotten to Brooklyn.

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:37.959
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 1>My point is like all these you know, all these

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>moments kind of ship up that like very few tough

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>guys can really dirty up, can also lighten up, can

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>also you know, be free to do coming in And

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>that's hard, dude. And you got to give yourself so

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 1>much grace so that you got to really really embrace

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 1>the fact that your gift was given because you decided

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>that you could fly.

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 3>One thing. I realized it's two things that equal one thing.

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 3>It's vulnerability and transparency equal intimacy. The more open you are,

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.959
<v Speaker 3>the more intimate you become to be, so you're literally

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 3>you're performance. People are like wow, like because you're vulnerable

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:31.560
<v Speaker 3>and you're transparent. And what I see now sometimes it's

0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 3>just people try to be hard. And I knew that

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 3>wasn't the way for me. I knew the only way

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 3>I was going to differentiate myself from anybody else was

0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 3>open open.

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>And I'll give you one more thing that you it

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>is you were honest from the beginning. You were so

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 1>honest with yourself for what you had and what you

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't have that. You were so free in that moment

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to just flow with your honesty and acting. It's all

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>about staying honest, right. You said stay loose, you know

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 1>this one thing and goes stay loose, stay loose in

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, to stay loose, you gotta let go.

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Yep, brother, I'm got me tell you. When I look

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 3>at you guys like Freddy for one, I mean, by

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:21.719
<v Speaker 3>the time we got to work on Harsh Times, I

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 3>was already like the biggest fan, you know, dead Presidence,

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 3>the stuff he's done before. You just go, dude, this

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 3>is he's got real actors, you know what I mean,

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 3>him and Christian And I'm like, man, I just and see.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 3>This is another thing. It's that you have to understand.

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 3>This is like pros. The pros. What I mean is

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 3>a quarterback. Don't want you to be like, oh that's

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 3>John l Way. Oh no, you hit him in the mouth, right,

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 3>that's that respects you if you hit him hard, hit

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 3>him real like don't And when we were in our

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 3>scene just we have one big scene in the movie,

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 3>but I had to come with it, Like I said,

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to set these guys up as a

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 3>fan like I'm a fan. I said, no, man, I'm

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 3>we laid back like, okay, we were there all day,

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 3>but you just come like we're pros now, you know

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. And you guys respected me so much

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:20.640
<v Speaker 3>and it was vice versa and it was just like

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 3>when you have those moments, you know what I mean.

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 3>And this is why it's hard. Like I've been on

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 3>some movies where a comedian wants to be have all

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 3>the jokes and it's over like you know what I mean,

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 3>It's like I want all the president. No, this is

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 3>a given to This is why Brooklyn niney nine worked

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:40.200
<v Speaker 3>so many ways because we handed each other. It's the

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 3>lib is coming to you. But Lissa boom, she dunk it.

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean. Andy was set this whole

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 3>thing up, so all the four people are getting it.

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 3>This is that it's a beautiful dance.

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>And product about the product getting it there.

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Yes, sell it there, but.

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 2>But there's a humility that comes with that. So you

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.719
<v Speaker 2>have to have a humility enough to go. It's about

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 2>the product and it's not about me necessarily.

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 3>And that's what I remember.

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 2>About you when we did that movie together and me

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 2>and Christian Bale doing that scene with you was was.

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 2>I just remember you coming from a very honest place.

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Whether you were a seasoned thespian or not, like that

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 2>didn't matter to us. It was your energy and what

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 2>you were doing was very honest. And when Christian and

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 2>I would throw stuff at you, you were like a

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 2>good tennis player and you would you would throw it

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 2>right back.

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you remember.

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>We had improv a couple of things, yea.

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 2>And I remember seeing a Christian like like smile on

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 2>the side and I was like, oh, Christian's on board man,

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 2>and we had like this beautiful interaction between us three.

0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 3>You know. It was so beautiful that Christian put me

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 3>in terminator right after that. Oh no, this, yeah, I see.

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I show you that.

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 2>This is us three there having a time man with

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 2>me and uh with with with me and Christian.

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 3>There and he was this big, lazy, kind of smoking

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 3>all day dude, and he just knew what was up.

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you a funny story about this day when

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:21.439
<v Speaker 2>Terry came. Remember we shot all of it in the hood, right,

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 2>and there was these kids that were there, and these

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 2>kids and Christian was always he's such a good dude, right,

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:30.520
<v Speaker 2>it's just the nicest guy in the world. And there

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 2>was these kids that were there playing around, and I

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 2>don't know if you remember, man, it was me, you

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:36.839
<v Speaker 2>and him and we're hanging out outside and we were

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:37.359
<v Speaker 2>telling the.

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Kids, Hey, you see that guy, he's Batman.

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Yea imber that and the kids were like, no, he's

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 2>not because the movie hadn't come out yet.

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 3>Batman shot but the.

0:34:48.680 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Movie hadn't come out yet, so we would go with

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 2>him to like Starbucks. No one would recognize him.

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:57.359
<v Speaker 3>He has a different kind of look. Yeah.

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I remember being at that line at Starbucks going like, Wow,

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 2>in a couple of months, you're never going to be

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 2>able to do this again. And and and the kids

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 2>were all like, he's not Batman, your Badman, And.

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Christian is a different level, dude. It's just a

0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>different way. And and and you know to put on

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>to put on that cape and do it on that level.

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean he was I believe them. I believe them

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>as Badman. I wanted to be Badman forever.

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 3>One of the best best ever doing.

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah man, and someone who's who deserves like. I love

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:38.399
<v Speaker 2>when people are cool and like and then you see

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 2>them be successful because then you root for them, you know, right.

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.239
<v Speaker 2>And he's just such a good dude that I was

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 2>like just seeing him be successful after that.

0:35:45.800 --> 0:35:49.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, you just you know, man, I ran into

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 3>Christian at the Ecademy Awards and it was a few

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 3>years back, and it was so wonderful because he said,

0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 3>what's up, man, he says, and you know what was

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:03.440
<v Speaker 3>the man? I get these moments like and it's not

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 3>about selfies, it's not about just like these these are mine.

0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 3>I get to take them with me, you know.

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

0:36:10.920 --> 0:36:13.799
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, tee, my daughter is here. She's the

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 3>biggest Brooklyn nine nine bad. Can you take a picture

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 3>with my daughter? And I'm glad Christian, come on, bring

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:25.919
<v Speaker 3>her over. This is great. And he's just because you know, you, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>if you could please your babies, of course. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 3>he was just looking at me like, oh, thank you

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<v Speaker 3>so much. I'm going so cool, your Christian Bale man

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<v Speaker 3>and his daughter came over like oh, like and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going this is crazy, Like don't listen. Love everything you do,

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<v Speaker 3>don't hate on I don't hate on anything. When people

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<v Speaker 3>say you just got to sing the song again, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>sing a song for the rest of my life. Thousand

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<v Speaker 3>miles because it's special. Listen, man, Oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 3>had people, Oh my god, I'm sorry. People come to

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:14.360
<v Speaker 3>me and they're like, I lost my son. But the favorite,

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<v Speaker 3>the only thing we used to do. We sit and

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<v Speaker 3>watch all your movies, and every time I see you,

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 3>it reminds me of all the good times I have him.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, it's that kind of stuff. I don't ever

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<v Speaker 3>ever you listen, man, sing the damn song, do the thing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. They're like, hey man, you

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<v Speaker 3>know me for that, you like me for that? Awesome?

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<v Speaker 3>But I can't stand when people go like, oh you

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<v Speaker 3>like that? Oh you know, like, hey man, no, don't

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<v Speaker 3>hate on any of this stuff. Man, it's it's special.

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<v Speaker 3>It's special, like you are healing people with whatever. Wait,

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<v Speaker 3>dramatic and comedic, you know what I mean. You got

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 3>to watch dramas so you can sort your own stuff.

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 3>You gotta watch comy to sort your stuff out. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's just that's what it's what entertainment is, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean. It's therapy. Yeah, in so many ways,

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 3>and I go, this is deeper than I ever imagined. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but understand what this is, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you know you're not a doctor. No, you're not a lawyer,

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 3>but do you're healing people like something when people come

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<v Speaker 3>up to you and they enjoy it. Wait twenty years later, yeah, Ever.

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<v Speaker 1>All the profession in the planet can actually have this

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<v Speaker 1>ripples the far way you are far gone from this earth,

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<v Speaker 1>the echoes of what you did on that soundstage, on

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>that set, on that location, on that hosting gig, on

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 1>that little sketch or whatever it was, the echoes of

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to be living on and on and

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<v Speaker 1>you and you get to you get to find someone

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<v Speaker 1>alone the way far when you're gone that really needed

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>to see you in that role in that moment. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we could obviously go here five more.

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<v Speaker 3>Adults, you know, and I will tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you this, but but I mean like this rightfully.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is this, uh you know, this this episode

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<v Speaker 1>or two because I think we're gonna have to break down.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I can talk no, no, no, no, a podcast

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 1>because this is your show. This is the point, right

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 1>The point is to pay tribute to you. The point

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>is to to to create a space where we can

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<v Speaker 1>reminisce so we can we can dig deeper than and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, look, we've all we all have a very

0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 1>similar story, right, we all came from very little man,

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>very zero, you know. And and the fact that we

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, very later in our lives, we can we

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.000
<v Speaker 1>can somehow continue to meet in a winning circle. Like

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 1>that's that's something that really is is beautiful. And I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to say, you know, congratulations on on the

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<v Speaker 1>on the I mean, two decades to three decades of

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.840
<v Speaker 1>entertainment that you've you're given all of us. And obviously

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>you're a brother, man, and this is your house, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're so stoked that you accepted.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I've known you for two decades and uh, you've always

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<v Speaker 2>been the same person. I have so much love for you, bro,

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I have so much respect for you. And I called

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 2>and you came, man, And that's a testament to you

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<v Speaker 2>as a human being and your integrity as a human being.

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:18.839
<v Speaker 3>And we both have married a.

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<v Speaker 2>Long time and we've had such wonderful conversations about that,

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<v Speaker 2>but again more of a testament to your character, Matsell,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for coming back.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you, guys. Yeah, ready, just thank you. Thank

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<v Speaker 3>you your legends to me, your legends, you know, I mean,

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:39.200
<v Speaker 3>I learned from all of it, like I watched you guys,

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 3>and I'm going, okay, I'm taking that. Hey another a

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 3>little bit of theft. Never heard any of you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh take that moment and that's mine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm taking that to them. Realize I'm physically not. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna start right by brother, Thank you so much. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Freddi Rodriguez, I'm Wilmer Abou Durama. This is your brother

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<v Speaker 1>Terry Cruz here. Thank you for joining us for another beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful Roman. It is an episode of Those Amegos.

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<v Speaker 2>Dose Amigos is a production from w V Sound and

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<v Speaker 2>Rodriguez and Wilmri Valdorama.

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<v Speaker 1>Those Amigos is produced by Aaron Burlson and Sophie Spencer Zabos.

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<v Speaker 1>mixed by Sean Tracy and features original music by Madison

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<v Speaker 1>Devenport and Helo boy.

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