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Speaker 1: Well, welcome back to those amos. Is this part two

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Speaker 1: of our beautiful conversation with that brother Terry Crews. I'm

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Speaker 1: Wilmer Aboud, Rama'm Freddie Rodriguez and be brought back into this.

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Speaker 1: What did that lead to?

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Speaker 2: Terry?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: What was the next thing?

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Speaker 3: Wow? What? This was so crazy. There was a Schwartzenegger movie, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and how I had did security on end of days.

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Speaker 3: We were all downtown LA. There was a Swartzenegger movie. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and we and they were shooting downtown and I was

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Speaker 3: like the guy who watched I watched an alley for

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Speaker 3: like two months and all of a sudden and wait,

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna tell you this. This is another great story.

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Speaker 3: I was in charge of watching where the extras went

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Speaker 3: and the whole thing. And this guy comes up to

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Speaker 3: me and he says, hey, man, are you an actorate?

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Speaker 3: I said, no, sir, No, I'm security. He said, dude, dude,

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Speaker 3: you know I'm I'm Arnold Schwarzeninger's makeup artist. He said,

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Speaker 3: you should be acting, so you have a great look.

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Speaker 3: And I went, thank you, sir. His name was Jeff Dahn. Dude,

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it's Sony right. So Sony needed

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Speaker 3: a bad guy heavy for one of their movies they

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Speaker 3: were doing with Arnold Sportzenegger. So they milled around and

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Speaker 3: they saw that I was on this show for Battle

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Speaker 3: Doome for two years and I became the heavy. And

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Speaker 3: I went in and an auditioned for this thing, and

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Speaker 3: the lady was like, you're pretty good. I was like oh,

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Speaker 3: she said, now, look you're a sweetheart. You gotta go

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Speaker 3: in there with the director and you gotta be pissed off,

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Speaker 3: don't even don't don't be nice at all. So I

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Speaker 3: remember going to His name was Roger Spottswood, the British director,

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Speaker 3: and I walked in there like, yeah, man, so you've

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Speaker 3: been have you been acting? I was like, Noah, I

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Speaker 3: do this, you know, yeah, you know. I was just

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Speaker 3: saying yeah. I was like, is it work it? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I got the job. Yeah, my first audition for a movie,

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Speaker 3: I got you.

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Speaker 1: But but you had to read for it.

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Speaker 3: Read. But it was one read and it wasn't like

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Speaker 3: the other show where months go by. They're like you're

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Speaker 3: going to be spending Now you're gonna go six months

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Speaker 3: in Vancouver with Arnold Sports and we're paying seventy five

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars, all the tough stuff went out. Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: I said, I got this movie. I got it. I said,

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Speaker 3: what she's like, I told you this is you. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: take it go. I'm in Vancouver, now this is man.

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Speaker 3: I'm still scared of getting cut. I didn't now I

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Speaker 3: had imposter syndrome.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a big movie.

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Speaker 2: Sixth day.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I remember when he was getting cloned, the

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Speaker 3: whole thing, and oh it was it was it was

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Speaker 3: what was that?

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Speaker 1: Like you going said? And all it was sudden. Arnold's

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you this the first scene I ever had.

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Speaker 3: I'll never forget the first time I actually met him.

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Speaker 3: I was supposed to walk up to him and I

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Speaker 3: was say, I remember saying, I said his name. It

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Speaker 3: was like, oh no, Adam Gibson. That's what was his name.

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Speaker 3: I said, Adam Gibson. I remember the line they come back,

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Speaker 3: Adam Gibson, Uh, come with us? I went, and Arnold's

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Speaker 1: Just like okay, he's coming in. We're saying action and

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Speaker 3: He's like, he just stayed there. You know what I

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Speaker 3: meant time, Sloop said waiting. You know, so I'm just going, okay,

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Speaker 3: don't be a problem, right dude. I froze, but something this. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: we gotta we got a light issue. Save my lass

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Speaker 3: because I froze and I went back and I wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Pulling myself to the side. I said, dude, do you

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Speaker 3: like and I was telling myself, don't you get into me, brother.

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Speaker 3: That next scene, I walked up in there with Adam

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Speaker 3: go all right, I'm alive. Okay, boom, I can do this, dude,

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Speaker 3: I said, man, And it was like go go oh,

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Speaker 3: my god. And the rest of the way. He was

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Speaker 3: so cool. He was cool to me. And I remember

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Speaker 3: he was with Marie at the time and his kids

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Speaker 3: I didn't care. I was like, we're roll.

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Speaker 1: I was like, hey, what it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: It was coming from that. It was like if that

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Speaker 3: would have been it, that would have been enough, you

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like that's a tree. And then

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Speaker 3: it kept going like yeah, I mean everything.

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Speaker 2: Did that movie once it came out? Did that performance

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Speaker 3: Or you No, No, it led to nothing. You know what?

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Speaker 3: It led to something? Training Day? Oh, I was an

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Speaker 3: extra in Training Day. Remember after that, listen, I had

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Speaker 3: done the movie. It had to come out. Remember the movie.

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Speaker 3: I had done the movie, and then you're at home.

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Speaker 3: knew that I was in a movie. But I was like,

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Speaker 3: that movie's coming. But Training Day they were filming Training Day.

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Speaker 3: I was a location the location manager because remember I

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Speaker 3: Denzel's down here shooting in the jungle. Man, you want

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Speaker 3: they were shot iaid what's up y'all?

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Speaker 3: They kind of knew me, so I kind of got

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Speaker 3: They were like okay. And I got and Bone, who

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Speaker 3: then I'm watching I just want to wash this opp

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it, that's it. And you know that scene

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Speaker 1: You had like close up yea hero showing.

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Speaker 3: When Denzel did his whole King Kong speech, he said,

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Speaker 1: Because that was the moment where the hood was like

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Speaker 1: the magic is broken. Yeah, you're in the Magician anymore.

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Speaker 3: See yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so when you when you when you give that energy,

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Speaker 3: It validated the whole film because they was like this,

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Speaker 3: Oh? He was going all night, but it was he

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, that state there and they were like,

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Speaker 3: It was just soaking it all there like watching it.

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Speaker 3: And then the Academy Awards hit and my mother saw.

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Speaker 3: She's like they showed that scene was. Mother was like,

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Speaker 3: you want the Academy Awards.

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Speaker 1: Clip? Yeah, and he got the mother said you have

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Speaker 3: She said, you got you you got an oscar. I said, no,

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Speaker 3: I didn't, but I'm in the show.

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Speaker 1: Because they used that clip.

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Speaker 1: Right, And then it cuts to you and you're there.

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Speaker 3: I'm right. I'm just the whole time, the whole time,

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Speaker 3: down the Coultor Stack product. I'll never forget that. David

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Speaker 3: I wasna. He was on set and I was in

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Speaker 3: I kicked into it. People like what. My wife hated it.

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Speaker 2: And I remember watching that and going like, yo, this

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Speaker 3: Go wanted it. I never wanted to be that guy

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Speaker 3: movie called Malibu's Most Wanted. Okay, Malibu's Most Wanted.

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Speaker 3: watching people's stuff and can I do this? I don't

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00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 3: know it's time that it's time for lunch. Okay, I'm

433
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 3: still learning the whole dude. And I went in there

434
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 3: uh uh, oh my god. And Kim Wayne's and all

435
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 3: of them, they're like, oh, I'll never forget her looks.

436
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: She's like soup. You can just see it like it's

437
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 3: all burning. And I was just like watching your.

438
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: Old We all have them, you know, we all had that.

439
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, well it went up in flames and I

440
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 3: went and they just stopped, like thank you, they stopped.

441
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 3: That's okay. Yeah, and I knew I do one more time.

442
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: No, no, that's okay.

443
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: Now, guys, guys. I went to the car. I never

444
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 3: forget this, got in a car, stealed the eastside bath.

445
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: I said, I'm done. I quit. It's hurt too much.

446
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 3: This hurts way too much because I you know, because

447
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 3: you get to a point where you can taste it

448
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: and you're like the pain of that was because I

449
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,439
Speaker 3: and you know, you go all night, you're practicing the

450
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 3: lines all night. I think I was prepared, you know

451
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 3: what I mean. You're old. You don't you're not even

452
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 3: they ain't putting your soul into it.

453
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: You're going and out of pilot, right because you're not

454
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: flowing at that point, right, because.

455
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 3: No, blow, it was terrible. And I said, I quit.

456
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 3: I quit. I just gotta find something else to do.

457
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 3: And I said, and my agent said, oh yeah, you

458
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,439
Speaker 3: got one more audition I said, oh man, it's Crosstown.

459
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: You're gonna meet with Keenan. Now, I went, oh man.

460
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: Another way they talk to each other. They coach movie

461
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: called White Chicks, and I went, wait, this is what

462
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: you gotta think. It's a movie. I need a show.

463
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 3: But oh well, I just do another movie, like again Valliable.

464
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 3: I said, it'll It'll pay the bills for a couple

465
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 3: of months. I go over there with ken I don't

466
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 3: care no more. I'm like, I'm right right, I'm just

467
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 3: going in there. I'm like, look at said, oh.

468
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: That's what I a white girl with a black girls.

469
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 3: The boy was like oh, and I'm like, yeah, yeah,

470
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 3: all right, I'm just he said, can you do that?

471
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't care anymore. And then they called.

472
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 3: They say, hey man, you got this movie White Chicks.

473
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 3: Oh that's cool. Did I know? I did not know

474
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 3: it would change the course of my life forever. Because

475
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 3: I went up there and we shot in Vancouver again,

476
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 3: and we were shooting it for the Hamptons and the

477
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: whole thing. It was the best time I ever had. Now,

478
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 3: you gotta understand Keenan. Every ways, it's a starmaker. All

479
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: those guys in living color but j low and you

480
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 3: know they in fact, dude, I'm not a set I'm

481
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 3: not an SNL guy. I've always been an in living

482
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: color guy. Okay, so nothing beats in living color, you know.

483
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 3: So when I when I was up there and Damon

484
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 3: was like, dude, just do what you do, man, just

485
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,479
Speaker 3: do what you do. You rocking this, I was like

486
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: whoa And I felt remember how my wife came to

487
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: me and said you can do this. When Keenan was

488
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 3: like you got this. I ain't to coach you, just

489
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: go and I was like who So he just.

490
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: Kind of let you invalidated, like you her instincts were

491
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: there in point You're locked in.

492
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: It was hitting? What hitting?

493
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you man, so like going back

494
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: to that movie, your performance had.

495
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 4: So many new houses that I was like, bro, that

496
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 4: hit me in so many ways, like the the like

497
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 4: you know when you were at the date, right like

498
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 4: you were at the date and you were just like really.

499
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: Committed to this day. You know, like that you look

500
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: across from you and it's like this monster.

501
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: Looks like a monster. He was a monster for the lady,

502
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 3: perhaps the silad. You know, everything we would go there

503
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 3: was no end, like, wait, that's only stuff they got

504
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 3: on camera. We was going and it was like yo,

505
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 3: Gus and Mark, Sean and Marlin were just you.

506
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: Were free to fly.

507
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: You were free yeah and that and you feel that

508
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 2: all those nuanceers that he's talking about was because he

509
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 2: was like, yo, just do or was that all like

510
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 2: on the page or he didn't direct you that way?

511
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 3: No, he he just trusted yea. He literally gave me

512
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: the green light. I said, so I could, so you

513
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: should because it wasn't no check, it wasn't no oh no.

514
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 3: That's you ever have a director come in and start

515
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 3: telling you lines how to say, yeah, man, you want it,

516
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 3: like let's find it, like let's let's put it on

517
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: his feet.

518
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: But some writers, and some comedy writers, they wrote it

519
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: and heard it and saw it a certain way in

520
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 1: their brain, and when an actor comes in to do

521
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: what the actor is supposed to do, they have a

522
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: tough time just like letting go of how it sounded

523
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: when they were in their laptop doing it, you know

524
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: what I mean. So for those times, you just you

525
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: really got to choose you, yeah, because if you choose

526
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: their way, you know that's where you are going to

527
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: not be able to sleep that night. Number two. You know,

528
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: you really can have a faulty you know, start at

529
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: that and then when you go to the premiere and

530
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: you look at that, you're like, that wasn't me. It

531
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: wasn't Yeah, yes exactly. That's why you got to always

532
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: choose yourself when you're on that screen. You got to

533
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: always say, like, you know, we had a whole episode

534
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: here we're talking about how do we talk to directors

535
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: when we let them know that their take is not

536
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: that you know, how do we sugarcoat that thing?

537
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

538
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: And the truth is like you got to talk about

539
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: it like within your own strength. It's got to be

540
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: your fault that you can't do it their way, but

541
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: you got to say like, hey, I uh, within my strengths,

542
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: like I'll be able to sell it more if I

543
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: could just go here, you know and then take it there.

544
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: But to your point, going back to your performances and now,

545
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: as we do like a mental beautiful you know, love

546
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: story colash of all your performances and all the parts

547
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: and all the moments if you've shown up, whether it's

548
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: like a cameo, whether it's like a great supporting part,

549
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: whether you're starting on your show, on your TV show

550
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: because also Brooklyn or I like we forget, like we

551
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: haven't even gotten to Brooklyn.

552
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:37,959
Speaker 2: Now.

553
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: My point is like all these you know, all these

554
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: moments kind of ship up that like very few tough

555
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: guys can really dirty up, can also lighten up, can

556
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: also you know, be free to do coming in And

557
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: that's hard, dude. And you got to give yourself so

558
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: much grace so that you got to really really embrace

559
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: the fact that your gift was given because you decided

560
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: that you could fly.

561
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 3: One thing. I realized it's two things that equal one thing.

562
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: It's vulnerability and transparency equal intimacy. The more open you are,

563
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 3: the more intimate you become to be, so you're literally

564
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: you're performance. People are like wow, like because you're vulnerable

565
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: and you're transparent. And what I see now sometimes it's

566
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 3: just people try to be hard. And I knew that

567
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: wasn't the way for me. I knew the only way

568
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: I was going to differentiate myself from anybody else was

569
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: open open.

570
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: And I'll give you one more thing that you it

571
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: is you were honest from the beginning. You were so

572
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: honest with yourself for what you had and what you

573
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: didn't have that. You were so free in that moment

574
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: to just flow with your honesty and acting. It's all

575
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: about staying honest, right. You said stay loose, you know

576
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: this one thing and goes stay loose, stay loose in

577
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: you know, to stay loose, you gotta let go.

578
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: Yep, brother, I'm got me tell you. When I look

579
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: at you guys like Freddy for one, I mean, by

580
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 3: the time we got to work on Harsh Times, I

581
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: was already like the biggest fan, you know, dead Presidence,

582
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: the stuff he's done before. You just go, dude, this

583
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: is he's got real actors, you know what I mean,

584
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 3: him and Christian And I'm like, man, I just and see.

585
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: This is another thing. It's that you have to understand.

586
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: This is like pros. The pros. What I mean is

587
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: a quarterback. Don't want you to be like, oh that's

588
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: John l Way. Oh no, you hit him in the mouth, right,

589
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: that's that respects you if you hit him hard, hit

590
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: him real like don't And when we were in our

591
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: scene just we have one big scene in the movie,

592
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: but I had to come with it, Like I said,

593
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to set these guys up as a

594
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: fan like I'm a fan. I said, no, man, I'm

595
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: we laid back like, okay, we were there all day,

596
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 3: but you just come like we're pros now, you know

597
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And you guys respected me so much

598
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 3: and it was vice versa and it was just like

599
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: when you have those moments, you know what I mean.

600
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: And this is why it's hard. Like I've been on

601
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: some movies where a comedian wants to be have all

602
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: the jokes and it's over like you know what I mean,

603
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: It's like I want all the president. No, this is

604
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 3: a given to This is why Brooklyn niney nine worked

605
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 3: so many ways because we handed each other. It's the

606
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: lib is coming to you. But Lissa boom, she dunk it.

607
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. Andy was set this whole

608
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: thing up, so all the four people are getting it.

609
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: This is that it's a beautiful dance.

610
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: And product about the product getting it there.

611
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 3: Yes, sell it there, but.

612
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: But there's a humility that comes with that. So you

613
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,719
Speaker 2: have to have a humility enough to go. It's about

614
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: the product and it's not about me necessarily.

615
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: And that's what I remember.

616
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: About you when we did that movie together and me

617
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: and Christian Bale doing that scene with you was was.

618
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: I just remember you coming from a very honest place.

619
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: Whether you were a seasoned thespian or not, like that

620
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: didn't matter to us. It was your energy and what

621
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: you were doing was very honest. And when Christian and

622
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: I would throw stuff at you, you were like a

623
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: good tennis player and you would you would throw it

624
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: right back.

625
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember.

626
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: We had improv a couple of things, yea.

627
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: And I remember seeing a Christian like like smile on

628
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: the side and I was like, oh, Christian's on board man,

629
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: and we had like this beautiful interaction between us three.

630
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 3: You know. It was so beautiful that Christian put me

631
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: in terminator right after that. Oh no, this, yeah, I see.

632
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: I show you that.

633
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: This is us three there having a time man with

634
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: me and uh with with with me and Christian.

635
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 3: There and he was this big, lazy, kind of smoking

636
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: all day dude, and he just knew what was up.

637
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: You know.

638
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a funny story about this day when

639
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 2: Terry came. Remember we shot all of it in the hood, right,

640
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: and there was these kids that were there, and these

641
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: kids and Christian was always he's such a good dude, right,

642
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: it's just the nicest guy in the world. And there

643
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: was these kids that were there playing around, and I

644
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: don't know if you remember, man, it was me, you

645
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 2: and him and we're hanging out outside and we were

646
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 2: telling the.

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Speaker 1: Kids, Hey, you see that guy, he's Batman.

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Speaker 2: Yea imber that and the kids were like, no, he's

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Speaker 2: not because the movie hadn't come out yet.

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Speaker 3: Batman shot but the.

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Speaker 2: Movie hadn't come out yet, so we would go with

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Speaker 2: him to like Starbucks. No one would recognize him.

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Speaker 3: He has a different kind of look. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I remember being at that line at Starbucks going like, Wow,

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Speaker 2: in a couple of months, you're never going to be

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Speaker 2: able to do this again. And and and the kids

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Speaker 2: were all like, he's not Batman, your Badman, And.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Christian is a different level, dude. It's just a

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Speaker 1: different way. And and and you know to put on

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Speaker 1: to put on that cape and do it on that level.

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Speaker 1: I mean he was I believe them. I believe them

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Speaker 1: as Badman. I wanted to be Badman forever.

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Speaker 3: One of the best best ever doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah man, and someone who's who deserves like. I love

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00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 2: when people are cool and like and then you see

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Speaker 2: them be successful because then you root for them, you know, right.

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Speaker 2: And he's just such a good dude that I was

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Speaker 2: like just seeing him be successful after that.

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Speaker 3: You know, you just you know, man, I ran into

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Speaker 3: Christian at the Ecademy Awards and it was a few

671
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Speaker 3: years back, and it was so wonderful because he said,

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Speaker 3: what's up, man, he says, and you know what was

673
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: the man? I get these moments like and it's not

674
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: about selfies, it's not about just like these these are mine.

675
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: I get to take them with me, you know.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And he's like, tee, my daughter is here. She's the

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Speaker 3: biggest Brooklyn nine nine bad. Can you take a picture

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Speaker 3: with my daughter? And I'm glad Christian, come on, bring

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Speaker 3: her over. This is great. And he's just because you know, you, hey,

681
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: if you could please your babies, of course. Yeah. And

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Speaker 3: he was just looking at me like, oh, thank you

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Speaker 3: so much. I'm going so cool, your Christian Bale man

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Speaker 3: and his daughter came over like oh, like and I'm

685
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: going this is crazy, Like don't listen. Love everything you do,

686
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: don't hate on I don't hate on anything. When people

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Speaker 3: say you just got to sing the song again, I'll

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Speaker 3: sing a song for the rest of my life. Thousand

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Speaker 3: miles because it's special. Listen, man, Oh my god, I

690
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 3: had people, Oh my god, I'm sorry. People come to

691
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 3: me and they're like, I lost my son. But the favorite,

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00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 3: the only thing we used to do. We sit and

693
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: watch all your movies, and every time I see you,

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Speaker 3: it reminds me of all the good times I have him.

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00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, it's that kind of stuff. I don't ever

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00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 3: ever you listen, man, sing the damn song, do the thing,

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00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. They're like, hey man, you

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00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 3: know me for that, you like me for that? Awesome?

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00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: But I can't stand when people go like, oh you

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00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 3: like that? Oh you know, like, hey man, no, don't

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00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 3: hate on any of this stuff. Man, it's it's special.

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00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: It's special, like you are healing people with whatever. Wait,

703
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: dramatic and comedic, you know what I mean. You got

704
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: to watch dramas so you can sort your own stuff.

705
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 3: You gotta watch comy to sort your stuff out. And

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00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 3: it's just that's what it's what entertainment is, you know

707
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: what I mean. It's therapy. Yeah, in so many ways,

708
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: and I go, this is deeper than I ever imagined. Yeah,

709
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: but understand what this is, you know what I mean,

710
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 3: you know you're not a doctor. No, you're not a lawyer,

711
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: but do you're healing people like something when people come

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00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: up to you and they enjoy it. Wait twenty years later, yeah, Ever.

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Speaker 1: All the profession in the planet can actually have this

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00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: ripples the far way you are far gone from this earth,

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Speaker 1: the echoes of what you did on that soundstage, on

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00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: that set, on that location, on that hosting gig, on

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00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: that little sketch or whatever it was, the echoes of

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Speaker 1: you are going to be living on and on and

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Speaker 1: you and you get to you get to find someone

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Speaker 1: alone the way far when you're gone that really needed

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Speaker 1: to see you in that role in that moment. And

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Speaker 1: then we could obviously go here five more.

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Speaker 3: Adults, you know, and I will tell you.

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Speaker 1: I tell you this, but but I mean like this rightfully.

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00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: So this is this, uh you know, this this episode

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Speaker 1: or two because I think we're gonna have to break down.

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00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: You know, I can talk no, no, no, no, a podcast

728
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Speaker 1: because this is your show. This is the point, right

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00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: The point is to pay tribute to you. The point

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Speaker 1: is to to to create a space where we can

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Speaker 1: reminisce so we can we can dig deeper than and

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Speaker 1: you know, look, we've all we all have a very

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Speaker 1: similar story, right, we all came from very little man,

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Speaker 1: very zero, you know. And and the fact that we

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Speaker 1: you know, very later in our lives, we can we

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Speaker 1: can somehow continue to meet in a winning circle. Like

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Speaker 1: that's that's something that really is is beautiful. And I

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Speaker 1: just want to say, you know, congratulations on on the

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Speaker 1: on the I mean, two decades to three decades of

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Speaker 1: entertainment that you've you're given all of us. And obviously

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Speaker 1: you're a brother, man, and this is your house, and

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Speaker 1: we're so stoked that you accepted.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: I've known you for two decades and uh, you've always

745
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Speaker 2: been the same person. I have so much love for you, bro,

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Speaker 2: I have so much respect for you. And I called

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Speaker 2: and you came, man, And that's a testament to you

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Speaker 2: as a human being and your integrity as a human being.

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Speaker 3: And we both have married a.

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Speaker 2: Long time and we've had such wonderful conversations about that,

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Speaker 2: but again more of a testament to your character, Matsell,

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Speaker 2: thank you for coming back.

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Speaker 3: I love you, guys. Yeah, ready, just thank you. Thank

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Speaker 3: you your legends to me, your legends, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I learned from all of it, like I watched you guys,

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Speaker 3: and I'm going, okay, I'm taking that. Hey another a

757
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: little bit of theft. Never heard any of you know.

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Speaker 3: Oh take that moment and that's mine.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking that to them. Realize I'm physically not. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna start right by brother, Thank you so much. I'm

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Speaker 1: Freddi Rodriguez, I'm Wilmer Abou Durama. This is your brother

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Speaker 1: Terry Cruz here. Thank you for joining us for another beautiful,

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Speaker 1: beautiful Roman. It is an episode of Those Amegos.

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Speaker 2: Dose Amigos is a production from w V Sound and

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Speaker 2: iHeartMedia's Michael through That Podcast Network, hosted by me, Freddie

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Speaker 2: Rodriguez and Wilmri Valdorama.

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Speaker 1: Those Amigos is produced by Aaron Burlson and Sophie Spencer Zabos.

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Speaker 2: Our executive producers are Wilmri Valdorama, Freddie Rodriguez, Aaron Burlson,

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Speaker 2: and Leo Klem at WV Sound.

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Speaker 1: This episode was shot and edited by Ryan Posts and

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Speaker 1: mixed by Sean Tracy and features original music by Madison

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Speaker 1: Devenport and Helo boy.

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Speaker 2: Our cover art photography is by David Avalos and designed

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Speaker 2: by Deny holtz.

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Speaker 1: Claw and Thank you for being at Third Amigo today.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys always listening to those amigos.

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Speaker 2: For more podcasts from My Heart, visit the R Heart

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Speaker 2: Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your

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Speaker 2: favorite shows.

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Speaker 3: See you next week, mm hmm