WEBVTT - Tyler Perry is the Devil!! (with Sydnee Washington) 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:05.120 Nicholas Cage has been been every version of a person 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:08.320 in Hollywood. He's been a joke, he's been a fraud, 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:11.320 he's been somebody we we treated like an idiot. 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:13.960 But he's always been white. We haven't seen him switching. 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:16.040 We haven't seen. 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:23.400 Like So I would like that. 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:26.600 I would like that quite a bit. 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.720 I think Tyler Perry can make that happen. Nicholas Cage, 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:30.400 Tyler Berry. 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:32.879 I think inside. 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.920 And I think I think together for evil. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:51.239 I think I think two can make it happen anyway. 0:00:53.680 --> 0:01:02.000 Racist money, many turkey stuff. 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:08.240 I can't tell me, so I creep. 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.840 Yeah, I just keep it on the download because no 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:15.480 one else is supposed to know. Welcome to O Mama's 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:19.640 and gentiles alike to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told. 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:22.920 Me the podcast What We Died, deep deep into the 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.720 pockets of black conspiracy theories, and. 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:29.800 We finally worked to prove that Andre three thousand has 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:35.200 lost a couple of those numbers is Andre twenty six 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:37.559 forty two? After that flute ship, My name is David 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:38.280 ford Man. 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:40.440 I don't like hearing it, but I'm like stick German. 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.880 Yeah, I think that I exaggerated the number of the 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:45.360 amount of numbers he lost. 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:49.880 Because yeah, it's like it's like it's in like that. 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:54.160 Twenty three eighty nine. He's good, he's yeah, And I 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:55.080 just don't like flutes. 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.560 That's not I think he's I think he's still only 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.200 lost a few points. But but it is you. 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:01.800 You just want that rap album. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:06.559 Baby, Yeah, someday, someday, I feel like a Trump presidency 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:11.280 if it pushes us to a new three thousand album. 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.640 Finish it's all I'm. 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:22.320 Saying, finish your sentence four days, four days. And you're like, 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.440 this ain't so bad. Oh man, I've already resigned to it. 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.720 Man, this man's not even in the Oval office again yet. 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:30.600 And you're like, I will be all right. 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.040 We'll Callie. We can't. 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.760 We can't deleet or dally anymore than we already have. 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.720 Our guest today is in studio with us. She's phenomenal, 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:46.960 a dear friend, an artist, a comedian, a a a. 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:55.040 Unit comes to do it, but so much more. 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.280 She she's a she's a dear friend or so happy 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:03.240 she's here. Give it up for Sydney, Washington. Everybody you 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:04.400 know black. 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:09.840 Man won an intro. I mean, no credits, just she's 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:10.440 a person. 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.360 I love you's funny. 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:16.280 Thank you. I appreciate y'all. 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:17.959 We love all vibes over here. 0:03:18.919 --> 0:03:24.880 So I have So you don't like the Fluke, I'm not. Uh, 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:25.919 you're not here for the fluke. 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.600 I don't have discerning a taste enough to understand how 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:30.040 good it is. 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.480 I think, really, So that's a that's a that's a 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:34.000 you thing. 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:34.920 That's what I said. 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:38.000 Ye like, it's you know, I'm not a flu guy. 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:39.440 It doesn't mean he's not expanding. 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.600 No, he's already expanded. Baby, he did it. 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:50.000 So he left us, you know, and I'm hurt. 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:52.120 I'm just a bitter ax. 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.440 Yeah, a bitter ax. He's doing better than you, babe. 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:57.480 He's working hard. 0:03:57.760 --> 0:03:59.880 The way you're going hard for this suggests to me 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.920 that you did like the flute album. That you not. 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:08.680 But it's all about elevation. You have to elevate. You 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.520 have to be a taste maker. You can't be doing 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.600 what everybody else is doing because they're doing it, you understand. 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:18.360 If if everybody is on the train rapping for dollar bills, 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:20.640 Andre is like, no, no, no, I don't want to be 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.039 associated without flutes. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:23.760 I don't see flutes everywhere. 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:30.040 Implies that he's not competitive like anybody. He's still rapping 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:31.800 better than all the people for dollars. 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.000 We've moved on, We've done you moved on. 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:35.640 Yes, we like it. 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.880 I don't like it because I don't want your ear 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:39.159 for it. 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:45.120 That's what I said. You know what, I just. 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:49.840 Christopher Columbus, your whole ship. How does it feel? Does 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:50.960 feel a white man? 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:53.120 Yeah? 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.359 My shirt doesn't mean there's one in my world? 0:04:58.200 --> 0:04:59.680 Why did you direct that at means? 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:08.520 I was got. 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.400 Yere to dismantle this brotherhood. 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:08.320 And it's working. 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.880 In and of itself. What were united? We got pictures 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.400 on our shirt, stronger than we've ever been. 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.880 It hurts to see this like you Obviously y'all are 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:20.719 really good at whatever you're doing, and. 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:22.560 I have to support it. 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.640 So I think I think by whatever you're doing you mean. 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:34.360 Talking to niggas at the mall. Excuse me, man, you 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.840 think you could pull this off and he could shut out? 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:39.120 It looks good, y'all J. 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.640 Romero, and I'm all, I don't know the name of 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:42.279 how much. 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:43.440 It costs enough. 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:48.440 This don't come cheap, sweetheart. You're gonna want that podcast 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.200 to get at least a few more episodes and clearly 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.919 if I want to start buying shirts and I'm a 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:55.719 Bill will Ferroll for this, This is. 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.360 Absolutely invoice Andre as well. 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:04.040 It feels like you were on my side and then 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.880 I lost it for a little bit. Okay, we enough 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:12.719 a goddamn enough. We have a conspiracy that you brought. 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:16.159 You brought to us. Uh no more than than two 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.719 hours ago. You said I have a conspiracy. This is 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:24.120 something I believe passionately. And we broadened that conspiracy a 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.640 little just to be able to open this conversation up. 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.360 But you said, my mama told. 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:33.039 Me Tyler Perry is the devil. 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:41.160 Absolutely and specifically Cicily Tyson died to get out of 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:42.360 her contract with him. 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.520 Wow, the new death row. 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:58.160 Okay, if you don't want me all address. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:02.280 Hidden people with your yeah that has a gun in it. 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:10.080 Diary, glitten niggas down the stairs and they wheel chair. 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:14.560 Got Janet Jackson in a curly, wet and wavy crying. 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:20.080 That was a good cry though about her husband on 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:20.840 the down load. 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.760 So you're doing but that is another movie, that's all. 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:28.600 That's not Janet did multiple that's for that was. 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:32.400 For colored Girls that I considered suicide. 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:34.240 That's but she did multiple. 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:39.360 Yeah, all the day I think I know, why did 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:40.119 I get married? 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.800 Well, I knew she did multiple? Why did I get married? 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.920 I didn't know that. She then also extended into like 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:47.960 the multi verse of Tyler Perry. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.040 Yes, that's you know what I mean. 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:51.640 I think that's how you do it. 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.000 That's how you do it. You don't just do If 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.800 you do one thing, you're bad. That means you're not useful. 0:07:58.160 --> 0:07:59.360 He can't. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.720 But some people sober up to it to some extent, 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:06.400 like Taraji did one. She's not going back to talk. 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.000 Did she do more than one? Was it just I 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:08.960 can do bad all by I. 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:10.320 Think she only did that. I can do bad, but 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.440 all by myself. I could be wrong. But even if 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:16.760 she did Idris it's another example. Yeah, I fucked around 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:18.560 over here for a second, but I'm not do. 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:22.560 Daddy's Little Girl. Yeah, that wasn't That wasn't terrible. 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.520 That The issue is not the quality of the movie. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:26.920 Some of them I really. 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.400 Like, Really, that's it's not the quality. 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:33.280 Yeah, I already I'm gonna already say. 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:36.360 I consume some of those movies like junk food. 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:41.160 It's just like so it's not there's no Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.760 in small doses though, it feels good. 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:44.679 You know what I mean. 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:48.280 Like it's just like there's no major problems. It's just 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:52.600 rich black people running around. Oh that's interesting. That's like 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:53.240 I like that. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:53.560 You. 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:54.160 I'm cool with. 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:58.240 You don't see them in the comedies, not in the 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:01.439 ones where it's like, but you don't see. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.320 Them in any way like morally corrupt or sort of 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:05.640 like harmful. 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:10.280 The characters within the movie. Yeah, not more so than 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:13.080 like I see anybody in any other movie. 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.400 Like, I don't know, are you are you? 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.480 Are you all the way awake when you're watching us? 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:19.280 Yeah? 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:20.600 Are you conscious? 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.760 It's like it's like, yeah, it's like, if you're feeling down, 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:25.920 you just watch like a funny, happy movie. 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.640 If you're feeling down, you put on Tyler Perry. 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:30.599 There's a couple of movies. Yeah, there's a couple of 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:32.560 movies watch Do. 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.480 You have a Therapist? In between? 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:36.559 It's a movie. 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.000 Silo Perry, a silent Perry. 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:51.040 He says, Hello, I'm just saying it's a big there's 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:53.439 a big market for it. The reason I think He's 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:57.200 the Devil is not the actual movie. WHOA Okay, I 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:02.320 think it's the u the labor practices to really kind 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:07.120 of get to me, Okay, like not being union and 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.760 stuff like that in an industry where like the standard 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.199 is to work unions. So it's like you're already putting 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.600 the people work with you like a little bit of 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.680 a disadvantage, right, And then it's like so it's like 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:22.440 you build this thing that is massive and does give 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:25.400 a lot of jobs, and that's very important, but you 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.080 make it so that these people are tied to you 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:35.040 in a way. Yeah, if you were getting if you 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.000 were allowing people to bounce over here and here and 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.520 here and get money and that was cool, then it 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.400 makes sense. But now it feels like if you're keeping 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.440 a stable it feels like you're not allowing people to grow. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:52.560 I I know a few barbers who have like dipped 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.800 in and out of like the Tyler Perry space, and 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.400 all of them sort of like in a weird way, 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.840 it gets sort of like, h like, no, I'm not 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:05.160 going back over there or I over there. I gotta 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.719 really be down to be over there, because that's you. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.959 You're working crazy hours, you're sort of being manipulated in 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:17.320 this space. And then I think they're they're expecting a 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:21.479 commitment that you can't like back out of easy. 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.600 You know, because it's like again it's that thing about 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:27.120 like exposure. You're like, well, I'm in this, so this 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:30.280 is actually gonna help me, and then after a couple 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:34.040 of rounds of it, you're like, wait, I'm still a bartender. 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.400 Yeah, I mean I'm a well known bar. 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:39.400 People know me, but I still have to bartend on 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:40.760 the side because I can't. 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:42.960 I can't make everything ends me. 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:47.560 I also think where it gets complicated is to your point, 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.079 the stink that it puts on you once you do 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.640 become a little bit of a Tyler Perry person, you 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:56.000 know what I mean? Like, did we see maximum Allen 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:57.439 Payne potential? 0:11:57.600 --> 0:11:58.400 Wow? This is. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:00.440 You? 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.760 You you it is the third time. 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.160 Second time we're talking about Alan Paid the Week. 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:07.160 You know what I mean? 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:11.719 You mean you mean Jason's lyric the Alan pay He 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.000 was a great He was in everything. 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.760 He was everything. 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:21.559 Yeah, he was in every sick he was making. 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:25.040 He was lot for. 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:28.360 That curl pattern. We don't see that kind of curl pattern, and. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.280 It was he was. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:35.800 He was a clearly black man with a natural curl. 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.720 This nigga had it all you would have I would 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.880 have bet the house. Yeah, I would have bet the 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:44.800 house and he and he sunk his fucking ship over there. 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:46.480 What happened? 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:47.439 Do you know what I mean? 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.600 Give us back Alan Payne, Tyler Perry or. 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:55.280 What oh wait was it? Was it Tyler Perry? Or 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.480 that it was just like Alan Payne. 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.440 Hey, y'all type cast so many times were like we 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:02.840 didn't seen this song and dance. 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:06.559 But that is a difficult thing, right if you get 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.240 typecast that much. Yeah, but you don't grow to a 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:13.440 level where it's unanimous that people know you're that you 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:15.720 kind of can't work in that forever. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:19.000 But I'll challenge you all. I will challenge you on 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:22.679 this because because on the flip look at Bokeem woodbind 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:27.440 who came who went through it had like this heightened 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.440 moment where he was sort of typecast as this like 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:34.560 crazy eyed villain and ship, but then took a break 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:38.120 and came back and came back chubby and now has 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:41.160 had a whole new career, do you know what I mean? 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:47.400 As older he was, he did Fargo, which was amazing. 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.720 Yeah, they said, and they said that was the best 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:51.520 part of the movie. 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.280 Listen, bokem Woodbine is the best, but he never went 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.360 over there. And that's what I'm saying is that maybe 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:02.400 there's a world where Alan Payne finds his true detective moment. 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.400 We got to put him in the A twenty four. 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:12.559 I think some people, or once you get in mainstream, 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.199 you have that opportunity to do all things like bad 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:20.000 good things that you're like, why are you even a 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:23.800 part of this? But certain specifically black people, once you 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.160 get into that little corner, that's it. 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:26.800 That's all you have. 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:33.320 Like Glenn Close, she was in Deliverance. I'm coughing because 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.000 I can't even catch I can't even breathe. The work 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.800 that she did in that movie. One I was like, oh, 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.080 She's like, I've done everything that I need to do. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:46.600 I've I have ascended to the point of let's play, 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:47.480 let's have fun. 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.240 She's like, I'll learn some pato. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:54.440 Yeah, now, now the wigs. The wigs were not by 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:58.000 Tyler Perry in that movie. Glenn Close almost was like, 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.720 is she by Rachel? She was giving Rachel jose All 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:06.119 a run for her funn I'm gonna say that on air. 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.760 As somebody who has not seen the movie. I assure 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.640 you she is not she is. I looked at all 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.440 them clips y'all were posting, and I was sober when 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.280 I you know what I mean, like y'all were. Y'all 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.960 were enthralled, so you were bought into the whole experience 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.720 as somebody who did not experience it. I was like, 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:25.560 this looks insane. 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:30.200 No, she said nappy pussy on in the movie. 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:35.520 And I said, We're gone. She's gone, She's like, but 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:38.120 they were. Every everybody black was like, she's got to 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.280 win a Golden Globe for this. 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:44.520 And everybody white was like, what are you talking? 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:45.800 Is she unwell? 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:46.880 Is her? 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:47.880 Where is he? 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.000 Is it the braids? Is it the braids? That's what 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:51.800 the white. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:55.360 People were saying with Glenn. But Glenn has done it all. 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.960 She has proven herself, so she can do that. But 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.480 once you get into the I feel like Tyler Perry Rome, 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:03.240 it's kind of wrapped up. 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:05.800 And I think that's the scary part, right Is that? 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.200 Is that even that movie? I don't It's not a 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:09.240 Tyler Perry production. 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:11.680 It's Lee Daniels, which is the cousin the cousin of 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:12.320 Tyler Perry. 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:15.000 I think there, I think, and I don't disagree with you. 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.800 I think Lee Daniels is certainly Tyler Perry junior. 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:19.160 Yes, he would love. 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:22.960 To be Tyler Perry in some former fashion. That said, 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:27.040 I think Lee Daniels still they let Lee Daniels do 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.239 too much, you know what I mean in the legitimate 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:34.240 spaces where they gave him oscars and nominations and he. 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:37.120 Is first of all, we have to no, let's not 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.240 be anti black. These brothers have done some good work. 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:43.040 There have been some things I know, Dave, I'm sorry 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.560 they have done. Really, they've been some pieces where you're like, 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:47.600 you know what this is? 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:49.400 What are give me? 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:49.800 Uh? 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.840 And maybe we should take the break. This is a 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:54.720 good way for us to go on break. I think 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.640 this will be fun. When we come back. We're gonna 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:02.000 unpack some projects that we think are defendable for Tyler 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:06.000 Perry and or Lee Daniels. We'll talk through the ones 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.760 that we think are truly defendable and we'll talk about why. 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:10.960 But we'll come back and we'll be back with more 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:20.879 Sydney Washington and more. Ma Mama told me, My Mama 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:24.920 told me presents the Start to Steal tour. We're very 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:28.000 excited about it. Yeah, I'm not about to bite my tongue. 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.959 We want to sell it out and the dates are 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:32.920 coming up fast, and so if you live in one 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.280 of these areas, we want you to buy your tickets now. 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:39.959 It's all available on our instagrams, on our websites, on 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:44.919 our link tree. December twelfth, we're in Seattle, and December fifteenth, 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.800 you're closing it out in Portland, Oregon. We want y'all 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.080 to come out. We want y'all to kick it. We 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:55.639 will be doing our coveted live show with special guests, 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.280 with just me and David. Depending on the city, it'll 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.840 be a great time all that meet and greets. You 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.399 think Chris Brown has a good meet and greet. 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.359 Bro, let's be clear. 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:13.240 I'll take a weird picture with you for free. 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:17.680 We are back discussing our favorite Tyler Perry movies. 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:20.560 Oh God, is that not I don't know that that 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:21.920 was the assignment at all. 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:27.359 Had to tweak it because your parameters weren't working. Okay. 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:31.959 I think what it should be is more this question. 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:36.120 If we're talking about these figures as evil rights, as 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:41.520 sort of spawn of Satans, as is sort of implied here. 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:46.520 I think we should be careful to remind ourselves, which 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:51.040 pieces at least hold some value for the greater good 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.359 of society. That it's less about whether or not that 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.840 we like them and more do they actually benefit the 0:18:57.920 --> 0:18:59.200 larger world around us? 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:01.480 And I'm gonna go first. 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:07.639 Yeah, so precious that Lee Daniels. That was probably the 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.160 most controversial. 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:10.680 And Tyler Perry production. 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:15.080 Everybody was involved, they had everybody, They had the. 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:20.639 Carrio movie. 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:24.280 I watch it and I say, yes, this definitely gives 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:25.800 sun Dance this gift. 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:26.760 It's indie. 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.640 Yes, this is like it's it feels like low budget 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:33.240 but in such an artistic way that I'm like, I 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:35.080 can appreciate this now. 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:37.360 The masses, the. 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:41.160 Masses watching this, this this story from the book Push 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:42.520 It was. 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:46.880 It was hard. It was so hard. And that and 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:48.600 Monique playing. 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.000 That mother so well to the point where like do 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:52.520 we like Monique? 0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:53.840 Do we like her? 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.400 I almost think that people weren't on her side because 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.520 they almost thought you are that mother that was in question. 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:04.480 You were touching your daughter like that. That's how That's 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:07.359 how controversial the movie was. 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:10.919 That everybody was playing the role so well that you're like, 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:16.360 this might be their real lives. Riah carry Riah Carry 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:19.800 rough draft Mariah Carey. 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:20.840 That was alarming. 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:24.359 It was alarming, and they threw on the beauty supply 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:27.760 wig and they said, go, yeah, a little bit of concealer. 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:29.359 But she was great, incredible. 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.639 I love this as an answer because I similarly felt 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:35.840 all of those things in seeing the film in theaters. 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.440 You went in theater. I went in theater, and I 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:42.880 had my little sisters with me. I swear to God, 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:45.199 because I was like, this is gonna be like a 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:50.080 beautiful film of empowerment for for them to see, like 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:53.359 this big girl who overcomes and like figures out a 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.440 way to move forward. I didn't read the book, No 0:20:55.720 --> 0:21:03.080 you didn't, and truly was just haunted by the experience. 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.040 And so I asked this because I agree with you. 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.920 I felt all those things, But how much of that 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:14.240 was just a weird stacking of awful on top of 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:18.560 awful and not really a human experience to make us better? 0:21:19.880 --> 0:21:24.320 Well, t I had a friend in it, Zosia, and 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:26.000 I think this was her first big role. 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:27.040 She killed it. 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:33.360 I was like, so there, I'm being honest, I'm there supporting, 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:40.640 I enjoy right, But then it is somebody's story, so 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:41.399