Speaker 1: Nicholas Cage has been been every version of a person
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. He's been a joke, he's been a fraud,
Speaker 1: he's been somebody we we treated like an idiot.
Speaker 2: But he's always been white. We haven't seen him switching.
Speaker 2: We haven't seen.
Speaker 3: Like So I would like that.
Speaker 1: I would like that quite a bit.
Speaker 4: I think Tyler Perry can make that happen. Nicholas Cage,
Speaker 4: Tyler Berry.
Speaker 2: I think inside.
Speaker 5: And I think I think together for evil.
Speaker 6: I think I think two can make it happen anyway.
Speaker 7: Racist money, many turkey stuff.
Speaker 8: I can't tell me, so I creep.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just keep it on the download because no
Speaker 5: one else is supposed to know. Welcome to O Mama's
Speaker 5: and gentiles alike to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told.
Speaker 1: Me the podcast What We Died, deep deep into the
Speaker 1: pockets of black conspiracy theories, and.
Speaker 5: We finally worked to prove that Andre three thousand has
Speaker 5: lost a couple of those numbers is Andre twenty six
Speaker 5: forty two? After that flute ship, My name is David
Speaker 5: ford Man.
Speaker 1: I don't like hearing it, but I'm like stick German.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that I exaggerated the number of the
Speaker 5: amount of numbers he lost.
Speaker 1: Because yeah, it's like it's like it's in like that.
Speaker 5: Twenty three eighty nine. He's good, he's yeah, And I
Speaker 5: just don't like flutes.
Speaker 1: That's not I think he's I think he's still only
Speaker 1: lost a few points. But but it is you.
Speaker 8: You just want that rap album.
Speaker 5: Baby, Yeah, someday, someday, I feel like a Trump presidency
Speaker 5: if it pushes us to a new three thousand album.
Speaker 8: Finish it's all I'm.
Speaker 9: Saying, finish your sentence four days, four days. And you're like,
Speaker 9: this ain't so bad. Oh man, I've already resigned to it.
Speaker 1: Man, this man's not even in the Oval office again yet.
Speaker 1: And you're like, I will be all right.
Speaker 8: We'll Callie. We can't.
Speaker 1: We can't deleet or dally anymore than we already have.
Speaker 1: Our guest today is in studio with us. She's phenomenal,
Speaker 1: a dear friend, an artist, a comedian, a a a.
Speaker 2: Unit comes to do it, but so much more.
Speaker 1: She she's a she's a dear friend or so happy
Speaker 1: she's here. Give it up for Sydney, Washington. Everybody you
Speaker 1: know black.
Speaker 2: Man won an intro. I mean, no credits, just she's
Speaker 2: a person.
Speaker 3: I love you's funny.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1: We love all vibes over here.
Speaker 4: So I have So you don't like the Fluke, I'm not. Uh,
Speaker 4: you're not here for the fluke.
Speaker 8: I don't have discerning a taste enough to understand how
Speaker 8: good it is.
Speaker 2: I think, really, So that's a that's a that's a
Speaker 2: you thing.
Speaker 8: That's what I said.
Speaker 1: Ye like, it's you know, I'm not a flu guy.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean he's not expanding.
Speaker 2: No, he's already expanded. Baby, he did it.
Speaker 5: So he left us, you know, and I'm hurt.
Speaker 8: I'm just a bitter ax.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a bitter ax. He's doing better than you, babe.
Speaker 4: He's working hard.
Speaker 1: The way you're going hard for this suggests to me
Speaker 1: that you did like the flute album. That you not.
Speaker 4: But it's all about elevation. You have to elevate. You
Speaker 4: have to be a taste maker. You can't be doing
Speaker 4: what everybody else is doing because they're doing it, you understand.
Speaker 4: If if everybody is on the train rapping for dollar bills,
Speaker 4: Andre is like, no, no, no, I don't want to be
Speaker 4: associated without flutes.
Speaker 2: I don't see flutes everywhere.
Speaker 5: Implies that he's not competitive like anybody. He's still rapping
Speaker 5: better than all the people for dollars.
Speaker 2: We've moved on, We've done you moved on.
Speaker 8: Yes, we like it.
Speaker 2: I don't like it because I don't want your ear
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 3: That's what I said. You know what, I just.
Speaker 2: Christopher Columbus, your whole ship. How does it feel? Does
Speaker 2: feel a white man?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 8: My shirt doesn't mean there's one in my world?
Speaker 1: Why did you direct that at means?
Speaker 10: I was got.
Speaker 2: Yere to dismantle this brotherhood.
Speaker 1: And it's working.
Speaker 5: In and of itself. What were united? We got pictures
Speaker 5: on our shirt, stronger than we've ever been.
Speaker 4: It hurts to see this like you Obviously y'all are
Speaker 4: really good at whatever you're doing, and.
Speaker 2: I have to support it.
Speaker 3: So I think I think by whatever you're doing you mean.
Speaker 1: Talking to niggas at the mall. Excuse me, man, you
Speaker 1: think you could pull this off and he could shut out?
Speaker 2: It looks good, y'all J.
Speaker 8: Romero, and I'm all, I don't know the name of
Speaker 8: how much.
Speaker 2: It costs enough.
Speaker 1: This don't come cheap, sweetheart. You're gonna want that podcast
Speaker 1: to get at least a few more episodes and clearly
Speaker 1: if I want to start buying shirts and I'm a
Speaker 1: Bill will Ferroll for this, This is.
Speaker 2: Absolutely invoice Andre as well.
Speaker 1: It feels like you were on my side and then
Speaker 1: I lost it for a little bit. Okay, we enough
Speaker 1: a goddamn enough. We have a conspiracy that you brought.
Speaker 1: You brought to us. Uh no more than than two
Speaker 1: hours ago. You said I have a conspiracy. This is
Speaker 1: something I believe passionately. And we broadened that conspiracy a
Speaker 1: little just to be able to open this conversation up.
Speaker 1: But you said, my mama told.
Speaker 3: Me Tyler Perry is the devil.
Speaker 4: Absolutely and specifically Cicily Tyson died to get out of
Speaker 4: her contract with him.
Speaker 2: Wow, the new death row.
Speaker 11: Okay, if you don't want me all address.
Speaker 3: Hidden people with your yeah that has a gun in it.
Speaker 9: Diary, glitten niggas down the stairs and they wheel chair.
Speaker 2: Got Janet Jackson in a curly, wet and wavy crying.
Speaker 1: That was a good cry though about her husband on
Speaker 1: the down load.
Speaker 4: So you're doing but that is another movie, that's all.
Speaker 4: That's not Janet did multiple that's for that was.
Speaker 2: For colored Girls that I considered suicide.
Speaker 1: That's but she did multiple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the day I think I know, why did
Speaker 2: I get married?
Speaker 1: Well, I knew she did multiple? Why did I get married?
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. She then also extended into like
Speaker 1: the multi verse of Tyler Perry.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: I think that's how you do it.
Speaker 4: That's how you do it. You don't just do If
Speaker 4: you do one thing, you're bad. That means you're not useful.
Speaker 2: He can't.
Speaker 1: But some people sober up to it to some extent,
Speaker 1: like Taraji did one. She's not going back to talk.
Speaker 8: Did she do more than one? Was it just I
Speaker 8: can do bad all by I.
Speaker 1: Think she only did that. I can do bad, but
Speaker 1: all by myself. I could be wrong. But even if
Speaker 1: she did Idris it's another example. Yeah, I fucked around
Speaker 1: over here for a second, but I'm not do.
Speaker 4: Daddy's Little Girl. Yeah, that wasn't That wasn't terrible.
Speaker 1: That The issue is not the quality of the movie.
Speaker 1: Some of them I really.
Speaker 2: Like, Really, that's it's not the quality.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I already I'm gonna already say.
Speaker 1: I consume some of those movies like junk food.
Speaker 5: It's just like so it's not there's no Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: in small doses though, it feels good.
Speaker 8: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like it's just like there's no major problems. It's just
Speaker 5: rich black people running around. Oh that's interesting. That's like
Speaker 5: I like that.
Speaker 10: You.
Speaker 8: I'm cool with.
Speaker 5: You don't see them in the comedies, not in the
Speaker 5: ones where it's like, but you don't see.
Speaker 1: Them in any way like morally corrupt or sort of
Speaker 1: like harmful.
Speaker 5: The characters within the movie. Yeah, not more so than
Speaker 5: like I see anybody in any other movie.
Speaker 8: Like, I don't know, are you are you?
Speaker 2: Are you all the way awake when you're watching us?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Are you conscious?
Speaker 5: It's like it's like, yeah, it's like, if you're feeling down,
Speaker 5: you just watch like a funny, happy movie.
Speaker 2: If you're feeling down, you put on Tyler Perry.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of movies. Yeah, there's a couple of
Speaker 1: movies watch Do.
Speaker 3: You have a Therapist? In between?
Speaker 8: It's a movie.
Speaker 2: Silo Perry, a silent Perry.
Speaker 5: He says, Hello, I'm just saying it's a big there's
Speaker 5: a big market for it. The reason I think He's
Speaker 5: the Devil is not the actual movie. WHOA Okay, I
Speaker 5: think it's the u the labor practices to really kind
Speaker 5: of get to me, Okay, like not being union and
Speaker 5: stuff like that in an industry where like the standard
Speaker 5: is to work unions. So it's like you're already putting
Speaker 5: the people work with you like a little bit of
Speaker 5: a disadvantage, right, And then it's like so it's like
Speaker 5: you build this thing that is massive and does give
Speaker 5: a lot of jobs, and that's very important, but you
Speaker 5: make it so that these people are tied to you
Speaker 5: in a way. Yeah, if you were getting if you
Speaker 5: were allowing people to bounce over here and here and
Speaker 5: here and get money and that was cool, then it
Speaker 5: makes sense. But now it feels like if you're keeping
Speaker 5: a stable it feels like you're not allowing people to grow.
Speaker 1: I I know a few barbers who have like dipped
Speaker 1: in and out of like the Tyler Perry space, and
Speaker 1: all of them sort of like in a weird way,
Speaker 1: it gets sort of like, h like, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: going back over there or I over there. I gotta
Speaker 1: really be down to be over there, because that's you.
Speaker 1: You're working crazy hours, you're sort of being manipulated in
Speaker 1: this space. And then I think they're they're expecting a
Speaker 1: commitment that you can't like back out of easy.
Speaker 4: You know, because it's like again it's that thing about
Speaker 4: like exposure. You're like, well, I'm in this, so this
Speaker 4: is actually gonna help me, and then after a couple
Speaker 4: of rounds of it, you're like, wait, I'm still a bartender.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm a well known bar.
Speaker 4: People know me, but I still have to bartend on
Speaker 4: the side because I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't make everything ends me.
Speaker 1: I also think where it gets complicated is to your point,
Speaker 1: the stink that it puts on you once you do
Speaker 1: become a little bit of a Tyler Perry person, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, did we see maximum Allen
Speaker 1: Payne potential?
Speaker 8: Wow? This is.
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 3: You you it is the third time.
Speaker 8: Second time we're talking about Alan Paid the Week.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: You mean you mean Jason's lyric the Alan pay He
Speaker 4: was a great He was in everything.
Speaker 3: He was everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in every sick he was making.
Speaker 3: He was lot for.
Speaker 2: That curl pattern. We don't see that kind of curl pattern, and.
Speaker 8: It was he was.
Speaker 1: He was a clearly black man with a natural curl.
Speaker 1: This nigga had it all you would have I would
Speaker 1: have bet the house. Yeah, I would have bet the
Speaker 1: house and he and he sunk his fucking ship over there.
Speaker 1: What happened?
Speaker 8: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Give us back Alan Payne, Tyler Perry or.
Speaker 2: What oh wait was it? Was it Tyler Perry? Or
Speaker 2: that it was just like Alan Payne.
Speaker 4: Hey, y'all type cast so many times were like we
Speaker 4: didn't seen this song and dance.
Speaker 5: But that is a difficult thing, right if you get
Speaker 5: typecast that much. Yeah, but you don't grow to a
Speaker 5: level where it's unanimous that people know you're that you
Speaker 5: kind of can't work in that forever.
Speaker 1: But I'll challenge you all. I will challenge you on
Speaker 1: this because because on the flip look at Bokeem woodbind
Speaker 1: who came who went through it had like this heightened
Speaker 1: moment where he was sort of typecast as this like
Speaker 1: crazy eyed villain and ship, but then took a break
Speaker 1: and came back and came back chubby and now has
Speaker 1: had a whole new career, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: As older he was, he did Fargo, which was amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they said, and they said that was the best
Speaker 4: part of the movie.
Speaker 1: Listen, bokem Woodbine is the best, but he never went
Speaker 1: over there. And that's what I'm saying is that maybe
Speaker 1: there's a world where Alan Payne finds his true detective moment.
Speaker 2: We got to put him in the A twenty four.
Speaker 4: I think some people, or once you get in mainstream,
Speaker 4: you have that opportunity to do all things like bad
Speaker 4: good things that you're like, why are you even a
Speaker 4: part of this? But certain specifically black people, once you
Speaker 4: get into that little corner, that's it.
Speaker 2: That's all you have.
Speaker 4: Like Glenn Close, she was in Deliverance. I'm coughing because
Speaker 4: I can't even catch I can't even breathe. The work
Speaker 4: that she did in that movie. One I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: She's like, I've done everything that I need to do.
Speaker 4: I've I have ascended to the point of let's play,
Speaker 4: let's have fun.
Speaker 1: She's like, I'll learn some pato.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now, now the wigs. The wigs were not by
Speaker 4: Tyler Perry in that movie. Glenn Close almost was like,
Speaker 4: is she by Rachel? She was giving Rachel jose All
Speaker 4: a run for her funn I'm gonna say that on air.
Speaker 1: As somebody who has not seen the movie. I assure
Speaker 1: you she is not she is. I looked at all
Speaker 1: them clips y'all were posting, and I was sober when
Speaker 1: I you know what I mean, like y'all were. Y'all
Speaker 1: were enthralled, so you were bought into the whole experience
Speaker 1: as somebody who did not experience it. I was like,
Speaker 1: this looks insane.
Speaker 2: No, she said nappy pussy on in the movie.
Speaker 4: And I said, We're gone. She's gone, She's like, but
Speaker 4: they were. Every everybody black was like, she's got to
Speaker 4: win a Golden Globe for this.
Speaker 1: And everybody white was like, what are you talking?
Speaker 3: Is she unwell?
Speaker 4: Is her?
Speaker 2: Where is he?
Speaker 3: Is it the braids? Is it the braids? That's what
Speaker 3: the white.
Speaker 4: People were saying with Glenn. But Glenn has done it all.
Speaker 4: She has proven herself, so she can do that. But
Speaker 4: once you get into the I feel like Tyler Perry Rome,
Speaker 4: it's kind of wrapped up.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the scary part, right Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that even that movie? I don't It's not a
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry production.
Speaker 2: It's Lee Daniels, which is the cousin the cousin of
Speaker 2: Tyler Perry.
Speaker 1: I think there, I think, and I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 1: I think Lee Daniels is certainly Tyler Perry junior.
Speaker 3: Yes, he would love.
Speaker 1: To be Tyler Perry in some former fashion. That said,
Speaker 1: I think Lee Daniels still they let Lee Daniels do
Speaker 1: too much, you know what I mean in the legitimate
Speaker 1: spaces where they gave him oscars and nominations and he.
Speaker 4: Is first of all, we have to no, let's not
Speaker 4: be anti black. These brothers have done some good work.
Speaker 4: There have been some things I know, Dave, I'm sorry
Speaker 4: they have done. Really, they've been some pieces where you're like,
Speaker 4: you know what this is?
Speaker 3: What are give me?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 1: And maybe we should take the break. This is a
Speaker 1: good way for us to go on break. I think
Speaker 1: this will be fun. When we come back. We're gonna
Speaker 1: unpack some projects that we think are defendable for Tyler
Speaker 1: Perry and or Lee Daniels. We'll talk through the ones
Speaker 1: that we think are truly defendable and we'll talk about why.
Speaker 1: But we'll come back and we'll be back with more
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Speaker 7: I'll take a weird picture with you for free.
Speaker 5: We are back discussing our favorite Tyler Perry movies.
Speaker 1: Oh God, is that not I don't know that that
Speaker 1: was the assignment at all.
Speaker 8: Had to tweak it because your parameters weren't working. Okay.
Speaker 1: I think what it should be is more this question.
Speaker 1: If we're talking about these figures as evil rights, as
Speaker 1: sort of spawn of Satans, as is sort of implied here.
Speaker 1: I think we should be careful to remind ourselves, which
Speaker 1: pieces at least hold some value for the greater good
Speaker 1: of society. That it's less about whether or not that
Speaker 1: we like them and more do they actually benefit the
Speaker 1: larger world around us?
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna go first.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so precious that Lee Daniels. That was probably the
Speaker 4: most controversial.
Speaker 1: And Tyler Perry production.
Speaker 2: Everybody was involved, they had everybody, They had the.
Speaker 3: Carrio movie.
Speaker 4: I watch it and I say, yes, this definitely gives
Speaker 4: sun Dance this gift.
Speaker 2: It's indie.
Speaker 4: Yes, this is like it's it feels like low budget
Speaker 4: but in such an artistic way that I'm like, I
Speaker 4: can appreciate this now.
Speaker 2: The masses, the.
Speaker 4: Masses watching this, this this story from the book Push
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 2: It was hard. It was so hard. And that and
Speaker 2: Monique playing.
Speaker 4: That mother so well to the point where like do
Speaker 4: we like Monique?
Speaker 3: Do we like her?
Speaker 4: I almost think that people weren't on her side because
Speaker 4: they almost thought you are that mother that was in question.
Speaker 2: You were touching your daughter like that. That's how That's
Speaker 2: how controversial the movie was.
Speaker 4: That everybody was playing the role so well that you're like,
Speaker 4: this might be their real lives. Riah carry Riah Carry
Speaker 4: rough draft Mariah Carey.
Speaker 3: That was alarming.
Speaker 4: It was alarming, and they threw on the beauty supply
Speaker 4: wig and they said, go, yeah, a little bit of concealer.
Speaker 2: But she was great, incredible.
Speaker 1: I love this as an answer because I similarly felt
Speaker 1: all of those things in seeing the film in theaters.
Speaker 1: You went in theater. I went in theater, and I
Speaker 1: had my little sisters with me. I swear to God,
Speaker 1: because I was like, this is gonna be like a
Speaker 1: beautiful film of empowerment for for them to see, like
Speaker 1: this big girl who overcomes and like figures out a
Speaker 1: way to move forward. I didn't read the book, No
Speaker 1: you didn't, and truly was just haunted by the experience.
Speaker 1: And so I asked this because I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I felt all those things, But how much of that
Speaker 1: was just a weird stacking of awful on top of
Speaker 1: awful and not really a human experience to make us better?
Speaker 4: Well, t I had a friend in it, Zosia, and
Speaker 4: I think this was her first big role.
Speaker 2: She killed it.
Speaker 4: I was like, so there, I'm being honest, I'm there supporting,
Speaker 4: I enjoy right, But then it is somebody's story, so
Speaker 4: should we not?
Speaker 1: But it's not somebody's story that you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like parts of this are somebody's story. The experience of
Speaker 1: abuse is somebody's story. The experience of you know, being overweight,
Speaker 1: and like the challenges of being poor is somebody's story.
Speaker 1: The experience of getting AIDS is somebody's story. But all
Speaker 1: of those combined into this single person, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it was just this.
Speaker 2: You don't think all that stuff can happen. Yes, I'm
Speaker 2: sure this is somebody's story.
Speaker 4: If you're listening and this is your story, I need you.
Speaker 1: If if you're listening and this is your story, please
Speaker 1: stop listening to this.
Speaker 3: Go seek help now, because.
Speaker 1: You have so much going on that you don't have
Speaker 1: time to dilly or dally with podcasts. Truly, this is
Speaker 1: that's She was pregnant and didn't know she was pregnant.
Speaker 1: She was being assaulted by her mama and her daddy.
Speaker 1: She was Mariah Carey was trying to or was trying
Speaker 1: to save her. But then they had Yes.
Speaker 4: Yes, I be on TikTok all day, all night.
Speaker 2: That is somebody's story.
Speaker 4: The way people be just diarrhea of the mouth, just
Speaker 4: telling their business, they mama business, They cousins cousins, and
Speaker 4: bad after bad after bad. I mean, I don't even
Speaker 4: turn on the TV no more because people are telling
Speaker 4: us our problems.
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess less than me saying it's impossible
Speaker 1: for anybody to experience this. I'm saying there's a point
Speaker 1: where it stops being any version of universal. Okay, it
Speaker 1: just starts being a singular fucked up story that nobodying.
Speaker 1: It doesn't belong to black people. It doesn't belong to
Speaker 1: brown people. That bitch's life sucks, perishspec I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: And there's some people in this building that also have
Speaker 1: stories that are closer to like a universal experience. And
Speaker 1: I wonder about the tragedy porn even though for for me,
Speaker 1: a person watching it, it worked, I was like, Holy shit,
Speaker 1: this this motherfucker is crazy.
Speaker 2: Okay, what about Monsters Ball?
Speaker 1: WHOA?
Speaker 2: What about that Holly.
Speaker 4: Berry won it won, that won that award, won that
Speaker 4: Golden Ticket.
Speaker 1: This movie, it's worth noting Monsters Ball? You said is
Speaker 1: a Lee Daniels production. Yes, right, okay.
Speaker 2: Thoughts, I mean, she is getting banged out by Billy
Speaker 2: Bob Thornton, not a drop of makeup, not a comb
Speaker 2: going through the hair.
Speaker 3: Did he's in it?
Speaker 2: He's in it.
Speaker 1: It's actually, I think one of his first serious roles,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2: Honestly, he ate he ate he was in jail.
Speaker 8: He did.
Speaker 4: He was on death row maybe the way the way
Speaker 4: the art works it always.
Speaker 3: I don't like he was on death row and they
Speaker 3: never told us why either.
Speaker 2: He did not know.
Speaker 1: They're just like he did. So he was he was
Speaker 1: acting up the ledger.
Speaker 8: Well he's er.
Speaker 2: Was it amazing?
Speaker 8: Wow?
Speaker 4: L RP shout out to him. I'm a him in
Speaker 4: real life and sweet sweet sweet guy. Okay, yeah, gave
Speaker 4: good tip to.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good.
Speaker 2: Some people like to speak ill of the dead, not me.
Speaker 1: Sydney came on here and so far his only defended
Speaker 1: white men.
Speaker 4: But yo, whoa the cameras dead ass could be like,
Speaker 4: no share you. You've been dragging Bax left and right,
Speaker 4: all dark skinned mind.
Speaker 1: You, that's my style. You, on the other hand, are
Speaker 1: selling your people out.
Speaker 4: I mean, I I enjoyed the rawness of it again,
Speaker 4: Like if this was like an eight twenty four production,
Speaker 4: we'd be like, yeah, we're.
Speaker 1: Leg Well I think it did get all the love right.
Speaker 1: It's another example of one. I think it won well,
Speaker 1: she won the Oscar for it, certainly. I think it's
Speaker 1: just like a lot of films where we sober up
Speaker 1: to what the fuck we watched three years ago?
Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean saying it won then,
Speaker 4: but it wouldn't It wouldn't hold up right now?
Speaker 1: Crash won the Oscar for Best Picture and is now
Speaker 1: like people laugh at the idea that Crash was now.
Speaker 2: Ya, I didn't like the invisible cloak. He tried to
Speaker 2: cheat me.
Speaker 3: You don't like.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, hold up, they're dragging Crash.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the people don't like Crashing. We come because it
Speaker 1: starred Ludacris.
Speaker 2: He was in Too Fast, two Furious.
Speaker 1: They loved it, Guys. I'm not saying that Luda didn't
Speaker 1: do a fine job. I'm saying that you don't give
Speaker 1: a Ludacris film best Picture.
Speaker 2: Then Tate was in it. They had everybody your name,
Speaker 2: Mama and Crash talking about yeah, the patient queen, you
Speaker 2: know who, Samuel Bullock.
Speaker 1: You know the only other type of movie that does
Speaker 1: movies like that where everybody's in it is like them
Speaker 1: shitty movies where it's like Valentine's dad.
Speaker 8: Cameons.
Speaker 2: Ryan Philippe was in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was too many big names for you to
Speaker 1: be managing a good story. So then you just.
Speaker 4: Like in a in a cheesy way, they were making
Speaker 4: their points. Yeah, but then we found out the people
Speaker 4: who wrote it were white. So that's what that's what
Speaker 4: sucked us up. That's what it was, which is why
Speaker 4: you and then you okay, you look at it as
Speaker 4: a whole. Yeah, it did just that, Yeah.
Speaker 8: Just what you thought they would do. Okay.
Speaker 1: So so Monsters Ball is a defendable for you. Precious
Speaker 1: is a defendable for you.
Speaker 2: I wasn't.
Speaker 4: I wasn't mad at the movie Holly Berry winning the
Speaker 4: Oscar for it. I was like, damn, why we gotta
Speaker 4: be down and out to win? But they do that
Speaker 4: for everybody either. You gotta what's her name? Charlista rone.
Speaker 4: She she had to get ugly and murder niggas, like
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: I think the only difference is they can also escape
Speaker 1: through like musicals. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 1: Like Chicago, what's the la one that they stars? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: Although a Star is Born is another good example, it's
Speaker 1: not quite it is a musical to some extent, but
Speaker 1: the one where they're La la land. Those they can
Speaker 1: be joyful, they can be not like look like shit.
Speaker 4: And when Leonardo DiCaprio was in Everything, they didn't give
Speaker 4: him that award until he got raped by bear.
Speaker 2: So you know what, maybe Academy is just doing everybody wrong.
Speaker 2: Actually it's one for one.
Speaker 8: I like that.
Speaker 1: That's what you think happened with that bear.
Speaker 8: That's what I said. It looked like. That's what it
Speaker 8: looks like.
Speaker 4: Am I wrong When they said when they said would
Speaker 4: you rather be trapped in the forest with a bear
Speaker 4: or a man?
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, which bear? Because bear in the movie
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's gonna take it.
Speaker 1: That bear got him. I remember just learning what the
Speaker 1: premise of that movie was and thinking, damn, this is
Speaker 1: give this man the award.
Speaker 2: This they did, and they did.
Speaker 4: He I think heat he read the script and said,
Speaker 4: you know what, it's time.
Speaker 3: It's time.
Speaker 2: Now I got a lock in. He said.
Speaker 4: He ro to death in Titanic, Right, this is a
Speaker 4: different it's a different type of death.
Speaker 8: I'm not dying.
Speaker 2: I'm not dying. I'm living. Jack Jack.
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Speaker 8: All that meet and greets you've been Chris Brown has
Speaker 8: a good meet and greet.
Speaker 7: Bro Let's be clear, I'll take a weird picture with
Speaker 7: you for free.
Speaker 8: Okay, here's what I'll say.
Speaker 5: Okay, here we go and get at the full Tyler
Speaker 5: Perry filmography.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, And it's worth noting she only defended Lee,
Speaker 1: didn't Yeah, she brought nothing to the table for Tyler.
Speaker 1: Tyler so far as in defensible for you?
Speaker 8: Is that true?
Speaker 2: Why did I get married? I fucked you? That heavy.
Speaker 2: I thought that was valid and into and mah two.
Speaker 4: I said, I don't know if we need this, but
Speaker 4: I heard they was doing a Why Why Did I
Speaker 4: Get Married?
Speaker 2: Three? And that's why Sisily was like.
Speaker 8: And then she died.
Speaker 11: Oh.
Speaker 8: She was like, I'm tired.
Speaker 4: Because Tyler said I paid Cicily a million dollars for
Speaker 4: one day of work, and she was like, wait, why
Speaker 4: are you telling them about my business? Yeah, because he
Speaker 4: was trying to let her know, Hey, you're gonna have
Speaker 4: to work some other days, babe.
Speaker 2: You we got mourning we got for you.
Speaker 1: That million was in advance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got work to do my death throw.
Speaker 8: We gotta shoot season forty of Sisters?
Speaker 3: Where are we going to?
Speaker 10: Hell?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But Tyler, it's only been out three years?
Speaker 8: How wash? He was back.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think that I'll take Why Did I Get Married?
Speaker 5: Just in the idea of just a romantic comedy. I
Speaker 5: don't think it detracts anything from art or the conversation
Speaker 5: or anything like that. Okay, because I do think that,
Speaker 5: like when we're talking about him as a whole and
Speaker 5: like his output, I don't think it needs to be
Speaker 5: He doesn't have to be a twenty four to be worthy.
Speaker 1: Of existing in the space, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's always been my issue with it, right
Speaker 1: is it's not that I'm expecting him to be.
Speaker 8: And worthy isn't even the right word.
Speaker 1: I just mean, like, it doesn't have to be bad
Speaker 1: bad that stylized. But I guess that's my point is
Speaker 1: I don't need it to be some high art. I
Speaker 1: just needed to hold itself to some standard.
Speaker 8: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 1: Like Adam Sandler movies, I don't like all of them.
Speaker 1: I don't like honestly most of them, but every single
Speaker 1: one of them, I go, Oh, Adam really thought this
Speaker 1: was funny, do you know what I mean? He really
Speaker 1: believed in like whatever this configuration of funny people and
Speaker 1: jokes was, and he put it out believing that it
Speaker 1: was going to serve an audience, whereas like Tyler, I
Speaker 1: don't think gives a fuck, but it does.
Speaker 8: Degrees in what he does. No, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't mean that some of the stuff is like
Speaker 5: definitely just put together and rushed out. But some of
Speaker 5: them you could tell. It's like he wanted this to
Speaker 5: be a good film, right, Like he wanted to Yeah,
Speaker 5: and it served his audience.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying that that's the violence, is to put
Speaker 1: out the rush shit knowing you had more potential for
Speaker 1: a quality film even as you see it, right, like,
Speaker 1: even if it's not objectively quality, you knew, like, all right,
Speaker 1: when I put this out, I stand on that.
Speaker 4: What if Tyler Perry is ahead of the curve and
Speaker 4: he said, these audiences they're pretty bad, So what are
Speaker 4: we spending years.
Speaker 2: Together and care about. Throw it out there. They don't
Speaker 2: watch it, they're gonna pay money, they're gonna.
Speaker 8: Go if you look at it that way, and and honestly.
Speaker 5: Genie, right, if you look at it that way, Helazer, Well,
Speaker 5: it's just.
Speaker 4: Like comedians right now, stand up comedians posting clips. You're like,
Speaker 4: that joke's not done, that needs some tags whatever. It's like,
Speaker 4: what are we waiting for?
Speaker 2: Put it?
Speaker 4: And sometimes the stuff that's the most unfinished gets the
Speaker 4: most viral moments.
Speaker 2: So Tyler Perry is, oh, want you want to.
Speaker 3: Stand up while let's go with your hand on your heart?
Speaker 1: What the fuck is about that appen?
Speaker 4: I think stand up comedians took a note from Tyler
Speaker 4: Perry and they say, I put it out.
Speaker 1: But I think that's what where I start to go like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that is a greater instruction of the world, right, yes,
Speaker 1: because I do think the deterioration of art is like
Speaker 1: a fundamental reflection of like what's happening in the larger
Speaker 1: world around us.
Speaker 8: It doesn't necessarily mean good still, right, No.
Speaker 1: He's an innovator for sure, Like he really broke ground
Speaker 1: on some vile, vile ship, right, Like, yeah, and that's.
Speaker 4: All yet what we know how it's done. You're like, oh, sir,
Speaker 4: how much? Tell me what the prescription is.
Speaker 1: But but even even the idea that you have, like
Speaker 1: all these shoots happening constantly on this large property that
Speaker 1: you're not doing multiple takes on that you're not even
Speaker 1: fucking like you.
Speaker 2: Know, you're not there, Sidney, what do.
Speaker 3: We What game are we playing?
Speaker 2: Fact?
Speaker 1: That's the whole boy, yeah, is that we're not allowed
Speaker 1: to see it because they're doing crazy ship with these
Speaker 1: these people whose lives that will never come.
Speaker 2: Back, these people Black people. Don't just say these people.
Speaker 3: These dumb dumbs trapped in a cave.
Speaker 4: I can't now your hairline is nice, but don't push
Speaker 4: you back.
Speaker 3: Alan fucking pain.
Speaker 4: You if you if you love Alan, so much.
Speaker 2: I want you to get his tattoo. Get a tattoo,
Speaker 2: Alan Allen.
Speaker 8: I just miss him.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's alive. Is he find him on Instagram?
Speaker 1: I bet he got a different Instagram.
Speaker 2: He said that pain fucked him up.
Speaker 1: I bet it's at Alan Tyler Payne.
Speaker 4: There was a there was a new movie recently, not recently,
Speaker 4: but like earlier this year that Tyler Perry made with
Speaker 4: Kelly Rowland Mia Coppola, and I watched it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched it. Was it terrible?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: Was it amazing? No?
Speaker 3: But I enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: I enjoyed it, and that sometimes we just need something
Speaker 4: that we could put our eyes on, take us out
Speaker 4: of the moment.
Speaker 1: But again, I think the point is less that he
Speaker 1: can't do it. I don't think my suggestion is everything
Speaker 1: he's ever made has been a violent violation Daddy's little girls.
Speaker 1: I like, and I was like, all right, that's cool.
Speaker 1: It's not I'm not offended by this.
Speaker 4: It just is you just you want to do things
Speaker 4: that you want things made that doesn't offend you.
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying I want there to be a standard
Speaker 1: of quality so that we're not getting clips of a
Speaker 1: dude getting punched in the face and spinning a full
Speaker 1: three sixty and saying oh as he falls down. I'm
Speaker 1: saying I want the I want a billionaire who owned
Speaker 1: literally half of Atlanta to invest in quality wigs and
Speaker 1: that not to be part of the conversation.
Speaker 3: I want to explore the world beyond mister Brown.
Speaker 2: Can they put music.
Speaker 4: Olivia everything that he's saying right now, I want a
Speaker 4: real story that you believe in every time, because you
Speaker 4: have the.
Speaker 1: Resources and frankly, you present to us to be this
Speaker 1: healer of our community. So put the effort in to
Speaker 1: show us that love every single time.
Speaker 4: So once you say once all that done is Tyler
Speaker 4: Langston will be right on that motherfucking lot.
Speaker 2: That's what he's trying to tell you. It's trying to
Speaker 2: tell you.
Speaker 1: Get you when buddy, when I run out, I'll come
Speaker 1: be a slave of slave away and with me.
Speaker 8: This is really just it's ending pro Tyler Perry, which.
Speaker 2: Is tew you know it.
Speaker 1: No, I want to be clear. I'm I could not
Speaker 1: be more anti Tyler Perry. You too are pro Tyler Perry.
Speaker 1: For me, I am the exact opposite. I think he's
Speaker 1: the worst.
Speaker 4: I'm pro you know, we should be able to be
Speaker 4: as messy and ridiculous and unprofessional as everybody else in
Speaker 4: this business, and we're not.
Speaker 2: We're not allowed to.
Speaker 4: And Tyler Perry is doing that and so therefore but
Speaker 4: what he But it also is like bad because, like
Speaker 4: you said, there's so many people who are trapped in
Speaker 4: this circle of Perry production.
Speaker 1: I just dream of a day when we don't have
Speaker 1: to hold it hold ourselves to the standard of the
Speaker 1: worst white person.
Speaker 2: I didn't say white. Now you said white, well it
Speaker 2: was I said the industry. I said, I said the industry.
Speaker 2: I feel like we are.
Speaker 3: You almost said jewish.
Speaker 2: I did not say that.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is we always have to do black excellence,
Speaker 4: black excellence. We gotta have autocrest, we got to we've
Speaker 4: got to go to school for we have to be
Speaker 4: so about this life. And it's just like that's that's
Speaker 4: not how art is made all the time. We didn't
Speaker 4: go to NYU, we didn't go to Juilliar. So that
Speaker 4: means that the way we conduct you know, acting and
Speaker 4: comedy or whatever is not up to standard.
Speaker 1: No, I think I'm not suggesting even for a second
Speaker 1: that there needs to be a standardization of quality. I'm
Speaker 1: not suggesting that there needs to be a standardization of
Speaker 1: this industry, but I do think that like this breaks
Speaker 1: down to questions of human decency.
Speaker 2: For me, human decency this is.
Speaker 1: This is not just oh, I made the best movie
Speaker 1: I could make and if you like it, you like it.
Speaker 1: If you don't, you don't. I've seen plenty of those movies,
Speaker 1: and we can argue all day about which one souls are.
Speaker 1: But there's nothing he's putting in on sisters. Do you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying?
Speaker 4: Oh Yo, when I tell you the B E. T.
Speaker 4: Bandits is going to be after you, I don't want
Speaker 4: to be a I don't want to be a party.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: Someone makes sure you untagged. Somebody's gonna be they are,
Speaker 2: they will ride at dawn.
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I get it that, I'm I understand that there is
Speaker 1: an audience.
Speaker 2: The feelers even better.
Speaker 1: I don't think that he's trying his best on all
Speaker 1: of these things, and I think we got to be
Speaker 1: honest about that, Dave.
Speaker 5: I think that what are we talking about is it
Speaker 5: like a ratios thing, Like what do you think is
Speaker 5: good to bad?
Speaker 8: Ratio?
Speaker 2: Is yeah, tell me, let us know what you right now,
Speaker 2: right now? Hold on? What is good for you movie?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 3: Show?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, No, that's that feels that that's complicating the conversation.
Speaker 2: Okay, because you want to you want to keep your jobs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to play this nasty hold me
Speaker 1: if I wouldn't do what I did right now, that's
Speaker 1: not the point of this conversation.
Speaker 3: A good tribe, sister, I can't even.
Speaker 2: They won't even see me a script.
Speaker 3: I can't even.
Speaker 1: I think if we're talking ratio of what I think
Speaker 1: he offers up good to bad, I think it's ninety
Speaker 1: percent bad and ten percent good.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Did you like Vampire
Speaker 2: in Brooklyn?
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a good movie.
Speaker 2: It was a good movie. No, what is good?
Speaker 8: Not that?
Speaker 4: Why wasn't it good? Eddie Murphy was in it? Angela Basket, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Eddie Murphy is in a female Peg was in it.
Speaker 3: He was Yo, yo, you think it's a good movie.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, you think it's a good.
Speaker 2: Movie, iconic, legendary.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, boo boo.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play this game where we worve around it.
Speaker 1: Because a bunch of people we like are.
Speaker 2: In butter Scotch behavior.
Speaker 1: Off the stage.
Speaker 2: I love it. I loved it. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: movie context also, it's sponsoring.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 5: But it's not a great movie, thank you, And that's fine,
Speaker 5: that's okay. That's kind of how it is with the
Speaker 5: Tyler Perry stuff.
Speaker 3: That's a good evil good who laugh?
Speaker 1: What's in his coffee?
Speaker 8: Meth?
Speaker 1: This is meth like behavior. This whole episode has been
Speaker 1: brought to you by meth.
Speaker 2: How dare you there?
Speaker 4: You text me an hour before the podcast and I
Speaker 4: brought my my sisterly love here to save the pod,
Speaker 4: and now you said, I'm on meth.
Speaker 2: Brothers, Where's where's brothers?
Speaker 12: It is he has that it literally exists sides. No, right,
Speaker 12: that's the problem. You don't even know how thorough this
Speaker 12: man is. There's an auntie, I'm hurting.
Speaker 1: This man made all the stuff and you I hear
Speaker 1: being like, it's already it could be subjective, no.
Speaker 5: Stop, how it is him being the devil to me
Speaker 5: does come down to more than content or anything. I
Speaker 5: think it's the way that he runs the ship that's
Speaker 5: that is the thing that I think that regardless of
Speaker 5: whether or not you enjoy it or you don't enjoy it.
Speaker 5: That is the sinister thread that we can all agree on, right,
Speaker 5: And that's the problem with Tyler.
Speaker 1: He's saving insane amounts of money it's fit to hoard
Speaker 1: for himself by not paying people what they're worth and
Speaker 1: not unionizing. And more than that, he then even saves
Speaker 1: more and more money by forcing people to work hours
Speaker 1: that are far beyond reason to stay sort of like
Speaker 1: insular inside of this fucking dome that it's It feels
Speaker 1: like we would be irresponsible to walk away from this
Speaker 1: episode and say that Tyler Perry is like a good guy.
Speaker 4: I just want to say, if we if Dave Langston
Speaker 4: and me die, we did not commit to.
Speaker 2: We did not kill ourselves. We did on this podcast.
Speaker 1: If if they find my body on Tyler Perry's studios,
Speaker 1: I did kill myself.
Speaker 8: Anywhere else.
Speaker 2: How is this down?
Speaker 8: I don't think anybody's paid attention because.
Speaker 1: Crazy supports it. No, they never listened to a single episode,
Speaker 1: mister James, iHeart plugged in the end phones. Well, I
Speaker 1: think we did it. I think we're I think we've
Speaker 1: concluded our all our positions on Tyler Perry, and they
Speaker 1: do seem vast and a little diverse. We we have
Speaker 1: varying sort of scales of what we consider to be
Speaker 1: evil about him.
Speaker 2: Is that Yeah, it's just crazy.
Speaker 4: We said all this stuff, and it's like we in
Speaker 4: this industry do we want to work?
Speaker 11: Like?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a good feeling. I'll be okay.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean our good brother here English teacher, Abby,
Speaker 4: I mean you you living you like before me, like skinfore.
Speaker 2: I don't know what.
Speaker 8: We don't worry about me.
Speaker 10: The woman to fend for herself, Tyler, right you holding
Speaker 10: on his legs as he's trying to leave the house.
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm ready give her a call, Sidney,
Speaker 1: before you, before you go on down to the compound,
Speaker 1: will you tell us?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 1: Will you tell us some cool shit you got.
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Speaker 4: it's called Mess. It's with me and your fabe, Marie
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Speaker 4: part of the family. And obviously I'm on Instagram. Please
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Speaker 4: and the brand deals that I deserve, I need.
Speaker 2: More followers, So follow me.
Speaker 1: I think that's fair.
Speaker 2: Just sid b W.
Speaker 4: I should be doing something with hair or makeup or
Speaker 4: you know. If the lesbians follow this, I'm sure they don't,
Speaker 4: but if you do, please follow me, just sid BW.
Speaker 8: We can have some lesbians to come a few three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always uh it's a girl and then her
Speaker 1: her much more more masculine.
Speaker 3: Watch your mouth, friend, watch your.
Speaker 1: Mouth, masculine presenting girlfriend who who is less happy to
Speaker 1: be there. It's usually the Yeah, it's like a small
Speaker 1: girl with glasses, and he was very nice, very nice,
Speaker 1: very excited, and then a a masculine presenting lady behind
Speaker 1: a camera being like, hey, y'all was y'all was cool?
Speaker 5: But I have seen a couple of times where it
Speaker 5: was a masculine lady and she put her small lady on.
Speaker 8: Oh nice. Oh yeah, I don't know the shot to
Speaker 8: that couple in d C.
Speaker 2: So it's only so it's only one couple of show coming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, usually do better, do better?
Speaker 8: What can we do? What we talk about?
Speaker 2: I saved the podcast.
Speaker 4: I don't think you know, you understand they were looking
Speaker 4: for to be seen and that was me.
Speaker 1: Oh thank god, good job. Hell yeah, And you can
Speaker 1: follow me at Langston Kerman and we're still on the
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Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: We We've got Seattle, We've got Portland, we and Okay,
Speaker 1: that's all the ones that I think we're probably gonna have.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's it should be all right?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, anyway, and if you want to send us
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