1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Nicholas Cage has been been every version of a person 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: in Hollywood. He's been a joke, he's been a fraud, 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: he's been somebody we we treated like an idiot. 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: But he's always been white. We haven't seen him switching. 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: We haven't seen. 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: Like So I would like that. 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: I would like that quite a bit. 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 4: I think Tyler Perry can make that happen. Nicholas Cage, 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 4: Tyler Berry. 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: I think inside. 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 5: And I think I think together for evil. 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 6: I think I think two can make it happen anyway. 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 7: Racist money, many turkey stuff. 14 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 8: I can't tell me, so I creep. 15 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just keep it on the download because no 16 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 5: one else is supposed to know. Welcome to O Mama's 17 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 5: and gentiles alike to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told. 18 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: Me the podcast What We Died, deep deep into the 19 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: pockets of black conspiracy theories, and. 20 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 5: We finally worked to prove that Andre three thousand has 21 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 5: lost a couple of those numbers is Andre twenty six 22 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 5: forty two? After that flute ship, My name is David 23 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 5: ford Man. 24 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: I don't like hearing it, but I'm like stick German. 25 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that I exaggerated the number of the 26 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 5: amount of numbers he lost. 27 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: Because yeah, it's like it's like it's in like that. 28 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 5: Twenty three eighty nine. He's good, he's yeah, And I 29 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 5: just don't like flutes. 30 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: That's not I think he's I think he's still only 31 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: lost a few points. But but it is you. 32 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 8: You just want that rap album. 33 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 5: Baby, Yeah, someday, someday, I feel like a Trump presidency 34 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 5: if it pushes us to a new three thousand album. 35 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 8: Finish it's all I'm. 36 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 9: Saying, finish your sentence four days, four days. And you're like, 37 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 9: this ain't so bad. Oh man, I've already resigned to it. 38 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: Man, this man's not even in the Oval office again yet. 39 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: And you're like, I will be all right. 40 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 8: We'll Callie. We can't. 41 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: We can't deleet or dally anymore than we already have. 42 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: Our guest today is in studio with us. She's phenomenal, 43 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: a dear friend, an artist, a comedian, a a a. 44 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: Unit comes to do it, but so much more. 45 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: She she's a she's a dear friend or so happy 46 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: she's here. Give it up for Sydney, Washington. Everybody you 47 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: know black. 48 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: Man won an intro. I mean, no credits, just she's 49 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: a person. 50 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 3: I love you's funny. 51 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate y'all. 52 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: We love all vibes over here. 53 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 4: So I have So you don't like the Fluke, I'm not. Uh, 54 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 4: you're not here for the fluke. 55 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 8: I don't have discerning a taste enough to understand how 56 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 8: good it is. 57 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: I think, really, So that's a that's a that's a 58 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: you thing. 59 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 8: That's what I said. 60 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: Ye like, it's you know, I'm not a flu guy. 61 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean he's not expanding. 62 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: No, he's already expanded. Baby, he did it. 63 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 5: So he left us, you know, and I'm hurt. 64 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 8: I'm just a bitter ax. 65 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, a bitter ax. He's doing better than you, babe. 66 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: He's working hard. 67 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: The way you're going hard for this suggests to me 68 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: that you did like the flute album. That you not. 69 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: But it's all about elevation. You have to elevate. You 70 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 4: have to be a taste maker. You can't be doing 71 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: what everybody else is doing because they're doing it, you understand. 72 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 4: If if everybody is on the train rapping for dollar bills, 73 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 4: Andre is like, no, no, no, I don't want to be 74 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 4: associated without flutes. 75 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: I don't see flutes everywhere. 76 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 5: Implies that he's not competitive like anybody. He's still rapping 77 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 5: better than all the people for dollars. 78 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: We've moved on, We've done you moved on. 79 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 8: Yes, we like it. 80 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: I don't like it because I don't want your ear 81 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: for it. 82 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: That's what I said. You know what, I just. 83 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: Christopher Columbus, your whole ship. How does it feel? Does 84 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: feel a white man? 85 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? 86 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 8: My shirt doesn't mean there's one in my world? 87 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: Why did you direct that at means? 88 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 10: I was got. 89 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 2: Yere to dismantle this brotherhood. 90 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: And it's working. 91 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 5: In and of itself. What were united? We got pictures 92 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 5: on our shirt, stronger than we've ever been. 93 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: It hurts to see this like you Obviously y'all are 94 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 4: really good at whatever you're doing, and. 95 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: I have to support it. 96 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: So I think I think by whatever you're doing you mean. 97 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: Talking to niggas at the mall. Excuse me, man, you 98 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: think you could pull this off and he could shut out? 99 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: It looks good, y'all J. 100 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 8: Romero, and I'm all, I don't know the name of 101 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 8: how much. 102 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: It costs enough. 103 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: This don't come cheap, sweetheart. You're gonna want that podcast 104 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: to get at least a few more episodes and clearly 105 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: if I want to start buying shirts and I'm a 106 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: Bill will Ferroll for this, This is. 107 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely invoice Andre as well. 108 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: It feels like you were on my side and then 109 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: I lost it for a little bit. Okay, we enough 110 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: a goddamn enough. We have a conspiracy that you brought. 111 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: You brought to us. Uh no more than than two 112 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: hours ago. You said I have a conspiracy. This is 113 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: something I believe passionately. And we broadened that conspiracy a 114 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: little just to be able to open this conversation up. 115 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: But you said, my mama told. 116 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 3: Me Tyler Perry is the devil. 117 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 4: Absolutely and specifically Cicily Tyson died to get out of 118 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 4: her contract with him. 119 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: Wow, the new death row. 120 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 11: Okay, if you don't want me all address. 121 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 3: Hidden people with your yeah that has a gun in it. 122 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 9: Diary, glitten niggas down the stairs and they wheel chair. 123 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: Got Janet Jackson in a curly, wet and wavy crying. 124 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: That was a good cry though about her husband on 125 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: the down load. 126 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 4: So you're doing but that is another movie, that's all. 127 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 4: That's not Janet did multiple that's for that was. 128 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: For colored Girls that I considered suicide. 129 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: That's but she did multiple. 130 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, all the day I think I know, why did 131 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 2: I get married? 132 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: Well, I knew she did multiple? Why did I get married? 133 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. She then also extended into like 134 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: the multi verse of Tyler Perry. 135 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: Yes, that's you know what I mean. 136 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 8: I think that's how you do it. 137 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 4: That's how you do it. You don't just do If 138 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 4: you do one thing, you're bad. That means you're not useful. 139 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: He can't. 140 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: But some people sober up to it to some extent, 141 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: like Taraji did one. She's not going back to talk. 142 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 8: Did she do more than one? Was it just I 143 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 8: can do bad all by I. 144 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: Think she only did that. I can do bad, but 145 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: all by myself. I could be wrong. But even if 146 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: she did Idris it's another example. Yeah, I fucked around 147 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: over here for a second, but I'm not do. 148 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 4: Daddy's Little Girl. Yeah, that wasn't That wasn't terrible. 149 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: That The issue is not the quality of the movie. 150 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: Some of them I really. 151 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: Like, Really, that's it's not the quality. 152 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I already I'm gonna already say. 153 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: I consume some of those movies like junk food. 154 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 5: It's just like so it's not there's no Yeah, yeah, yeah, 155 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 5: in small doses though, it feels good. 156 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 8: You know what I mean. 157 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 5: Like it's just like there's no major problems. It's just 158 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 5: rich black people running around. Oh that's interesting. That's like 159 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 5: I like that. 160 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 10: You. 161 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 8: I'm cool with. 162 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 5: You don't see them in the comedies, not in the 163 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 5: ones where it's like, but you don't see. 164 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: Them in any way like morally corrupt or sort of 165 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: like harmful. 166 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 5: The characters within the movie. Yeah, not more so than 167 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 5: like I see anybody in any other movie. 168 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 8: Like, I don't know, are you are you? 169 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: Are you all the way awake when you're watching us? 170 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 8: Yeah? 171 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 2: Are you conscious? 172 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 5: It's like it's like, yeah, it's like, if you're feeling down, 173 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 5: you just watch like a funny, happy movie. 174 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: If you're feeling down, you put on Tyler Perry. 175 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,599 Speaker 1: There's a couple of movies. Yeah, there's a couple of 176 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: movies watch Do. 177 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: You have a Therapist? In between? 178 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 8: It's a movie. 179 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: Silo Perry, a silent Perry. 180 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 5: He says, Hello, I'm just saying it's a big there's 181 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 5: a big market for it. The reason I think He's 182 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 5: the Devil is not the actual movie. WHOA Okay, I 183 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 5: think it's the u the labor practices to really kind 184 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 5: of get to me, Okay, like not being union and 185 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 5: stuff like that in an industry where like the standard 186 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 5: is to work unions. So it's like you're already putting 187 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 5: the people work with you like a little bit of 188 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 5: a disadvantage, right, And then it's like so it's like 189 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 5: you build this thing that is massive and does give 190 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 5: a lot of jobs, and that's very important, but you 191 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 5: make it so that these people are tied to you 192 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 5: in a way. Yeah, if you were getting if you 193 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 5: were allowing people to bounce over here and here and 194 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 5: here and get money and that was cool, then it 195 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 5: makes sense. But now it feels like if you're keeping 196 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 5: a stable it feels like you're not allowing people to grow. 197 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: I I know a few barbers who have like dipped 198 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: in and out of like the Tyler Perry space, and 199 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: all of them sort of like in a weird way, 200 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: it gets sort of like, h like, no, I'm not 201 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: going back over there or I over there. I gotta 202 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 1: really be down to be over there, because that's you. 203 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: You're working crazy hours, you're sort of being manipulated in 204 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: this space. And then I think they're they're expecting a 205 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,479 Speaker 1: commitment that you can't like back out of easy. 206 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 4: You know, because it's like again it's that thing about 207 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: like exposure. You're like, well, I'm in this, so this 208 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 4: is actually gonna help me, and then after a couple 209 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 4: of rounds of it, you're like, wait, I'm still a bartender. 210 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm a well known bar. 211 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: People know me, but I still have to bartend on 212 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 4: the side because I can't. 213 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: I can't make everything ends me. 214 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: I also think where it gets complicated is to your point, 215 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: the stink that it puts on you once you do 216 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: become a little bit of a Tyler Perry person, you 217 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, did we see maximum Allen 218 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: Payne potential? 219 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 8: Wow? This is. 220 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 2: You? 221 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: You you it is the third time. 222 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 8: Second time we're talking about Alan Paid the Week. 223 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 224 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 4: You mean you mean Jason's lyric the Alan pay He 225 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: was a great He was in everything. 226 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: He was everything. 227 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in every sick he was making. 228 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: He was lot for. 229 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: That curl pattern. We don't see that kind of curl pattern, and. 230 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 8: It was he was. 231 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: He was a clearly black man with a natural curl. 232 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: This nigga had it all you would have I would 233 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: have bet the house. Yeah, I would have bet the 234 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: house and he and he sunk his fucking ship over there. 235 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: What happened? 236 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 8: Do you know what I mean? 237 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: Give us back Alan Payne, Tyler Perry or. 238 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: What oh wait was it? Was it Tyler Perry? Or 239 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: that it was just like Alan Payne. 240 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 4: Hey, y'all type cast so many times were like we 241 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 4: didn't seen this song and dance. 242 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 5: But that is a difficult thing, right if you get 243 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 5: typecast that much. Yeah, but you don't grow to a 244 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 5: level where it's unanimous that people know you're that you 245 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 5: kind of can't work in that forever. 246 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: But I'll challenge you all. I will challenge you on 247 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: this because because on the flip look at Bokeem woodbind 248 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: who came who went through it had like this heightened 249 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: moment where he was sort of typecast as this like 250 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: crazy eyed villain and ship, but then took a break 251 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: and came back and came back chubby and now has 252 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: had a whole new career, do you know what I mean? 253 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: As older he was, he did Fargo, which was amazing. 254 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, they said, and they said that was the best 255 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: part of the movie. 256 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: Listen, bokem Woodbine is the best, but he never went 257 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: over there. And that's what I'm saying is that maybe 258 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: there's a world where Alan Payne finds his true detective moment. 259 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: We got to put him in the A twenty four. 260 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 4: I think some people, or once you get in mainstream, 261 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 4: you have that opportunity to do all things like bad 262 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 4: good things that you're like, why are you even a 263 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: part of this? But certain specifically black people, once you 264 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 4: get into that little corner, that's it. 265 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: That's all you have. 266 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 4: Like Glenn Close, she was in Deliverance. I'm coughing because 267 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 4: I can't even catch I can't even breathe. The work 268 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 4: that she did in that movie. One I was like, oh, 269 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 4: She's like, I've done everything that I need to do. 270 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 4: I've I have ascended to the point of let's play, 271 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 4: let's have fun. 272 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: She's like, I'll learn some pato. 273 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, now, now the wigs. The wigs were not by 274 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 4: Tyler Perry in that movie. Glenn Close almost was like, 275 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: is she by Rachel? She was giving Rachel jose All 276 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,119 Speaker 4: a run for her funn I'm gonna say that on air. 277 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: As somebody who has not seen the movie. I assure 278 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: you she is not she is. I looked at all 279 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: them clips y'all were posting, and I was sober when 280 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: I you know what I mean, like y'all were. Y'all 281 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: were enthralled, so you were bought into the whole experience 282 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: as somebody who did not experience it. I was like, 283 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: this looks insane. 284 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: No, she said nappy pussy on in the movie. 285 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 4: And I said, We're gone. She's gone, She's like, but 286 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 4: they were. Every everybody black was like, she's got to 287 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 4: win a Golden Globe for this. 288 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: And everybody white was like, what are you talking? 289 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 3: Is she unwell? 290 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 4: Is her? 291 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: Where is he? 292 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: Is it the braids? Is it the braids? That's what 293 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 3: the white. 294 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 4: People were saying with Glenn. But Glenn has done it all. 295 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 4: She has proven herself, so she can do that. But 296 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 4: once you get into the I feel like Tyler Perry Rome, 297 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 4: it's kind of wrapped up. 298 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's the scary part, right Is that? 299 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: Is that even that movie? I don't It's not a 300 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: Tyler Perry production. 301 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: It's Lee Daniels, which is the cousin the cousin of 302 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: Tyler Perry. 303 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: I think there, I think, and I don't disagree with you. 304 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: I think Lee Daniels is certainly Tyler Perry junior. 305 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: Yes, he would love. 306 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: To be Tyler Perry in some former fashion. That said, 307 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: I think Lee Daniels still they let Lee Daniels do 308 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,239 Speaker 1: too much, you know what I mean in the legitimate 309 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: spaces where they gave him oscars and nominations and he. 310 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 4: Is first of all, we have to no, let's not 311 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 4: be anti black. These brothers have done some good work. 312 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: There have been some things I know, Dave, I'm sorry 313 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: they have done. Really, they've been some pieces where you're like, 314 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 4: you know what this is? 315 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 3: What are give me? 316 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 11: Uh? 317 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: And maybe we should take the break. This is a 318 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: good way for us to go on break. I think 319 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: this will be fun. When we come back. We're gonna 320 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: unpack some projects that we think are defendable for Tyler 321 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: Perry and or Lee Daniels. We'll talk through the ones 322 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: that we think are truly defendable and we'll talk about why. 323 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: But we'll come back and we'll be back with more 324 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: Sydney Washington and more. Ma Mama told me, My Mama 325 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: told me presents the Start to Steal tour. We're very 326 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: excited about it. Yeah, I'm not about to bite my tongue. 327 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: We want to sell it out and the dates are 328 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: coming up fast, and so if you live in one 329 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: of these areas, we want you to buy your tickets now. 330 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: It's all available on our instagrams, on our websites, on 331 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: our link tree. December twelfth, we're in Seattle, and December fifteenth, 332 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: you're closing it out in Portland, Oregon. We want y'all 333 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: to come out. We want y'all to kick it. We 334 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: will be doing our coveted live show with special guests, 335 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: with just me and David. Depending on the city, it'll 336 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: be a great time all that meet and greets. You 337 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: think Chris Brown has a good meet and greet. 338 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: Bro, let's be clear. 339 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 7: I'll take a weird picture with you for free. 340 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 5: We are back discussing our favorite Tyler Perry movies. 341 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: Oh God, is that not I don't know that that 342 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: was the assignment at all. 343 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 8: Had to tweak it because your parameters weren't working. Okay. 344 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 1: I think what it should be is more this question. 345 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: If we're talking about these figures as evil rights, as 346 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: sort of spawn of Satans, as is sort of implied here. 347 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: I think we should be careful to remind ourselves, which 348 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: pieces at least hold some value for the greater good 349 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: of society. That it's less about whether or not that 350 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: we like them and more do they actually benefit the 351 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: larger world around us? 352 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna go first. 353 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, so precious that Lee Daniels. That was probably the 354 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 4: most controversial. 355 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: And Tyler Perry production. 356 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: Everybody was involved, they had everybody, They had the. 357 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 3: Carrio movie. 358 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 4: I watch it and I say, yes, this definitely gives 359 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 4: sun Dance this gift. 360 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: It's indie. 361 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 4: Yes, this is like it's it feels like low budget 362 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 4: but in such an artistic way that I'm like, I 363 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: can appreciate this now. 364 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 2: The masses, the. 365 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 4: Masses watching this, this this story from the book Push 366 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 4: It was. 367 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 2: It was hard. It was so hard. And that and 368 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: Monique playing. 369 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 4: That mother so well to the point where like do 370 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 4: we like Monique? 371 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: Do we like her? 372 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 4: I almost think that people weren't on her side because 373 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 4: they almost thought you are that mother that was in question. 374 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: You were touching your daughter like that. That's how That's 375 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 2: how controversial the movie was. 376 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 4: That everybody was playing the role so well that you're like, 377 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 4: this might be their real lives. Riah carry Riah Carry 378 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 4: rough draft Mariah Carey. 379 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: That was alarming. 380 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 4: It was alarming, and they threw on the beauty supply 381 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 4: wig and they said, go, yeah, a little bit of concealer. 382 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 2: But she was great, incredible. 383 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: I love this as an answer because I similarly felt 384 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: all of those things in seeing the film in theaters. 385 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: You went in theater. I went in theater, and I 386 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: had my little sisters with me. I swear to God, 387 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: because I was like, this is gonna be like a 388 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: beautiful film of empowerment for for them to see, like 389 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: this big girl who overcomes and like figures out a 390 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: way to move forward. I didn't read the book, No 391 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: you didn't, and truly was just haunted by the experience. 392 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: And so I asked this because I agree with you. 393 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: I felt all those things, But how much of that 394 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: was just a weird stacking of awful on top of 395 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: awful and not really a human experience to make us better? 396 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 4: Well, t I had a friend in it, Zosia, and 397 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 4: I think this was her first big role. 398 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 2: She killed it. 399 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 4: I was like, so there, I'm being honest, I'm there supporting, 400 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 4: I enjoy right, But then it is somebody's story, so 401 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 4: should we not? 402 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: But it's not somebody's story that you know what I mean, 403 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: Like parts of this are somebody's story. The experience of 404 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: abuse is somebody's story. The experience of you know, being overweight, 405 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: and like the challenges of being poor is somebody's story. 406 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: The experience of getting AIDS is somebody's story. But all 407 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: of those combined into this single person, you know what 408 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Like it was just this. 409 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 2: You don't think all that stuff can happen. Yes, I'm 410 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: sure this is somebody's story. 411 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 4: If you're listening and this is your story, I need you. 412 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: If if you're listening and this is your story, please 413 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: stop listening to this. 414 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 3: Go seek help now, because. 415 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: You have so much going on that you don't have 416 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: time to dilly or dally with podcasts. Truly, this is 417 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: that's She was pregnant and didn't know she was pregnant. 418 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: She was being assaulted by her mama and her daddy. 419 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: She was Mariah Carey was trying to or was trying 420 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: to save her. But then they had Yes. 421 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 4: Yes, I be on TikTok all day, all night. 422 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 2: That is somebody's story. 423 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 4: The way people be just diarrhea of the mouth, just 424 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 4: telling their business, they mama business, They cousins cousins, and 425 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 4: bad after bad after bad. I mean, I don't even 426 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 4: turn on the TV no more because people are telling 427 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 4: us our problems. 428 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess less than me saying it's impossible 429 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: for anybody to experience this. I'm saying there's a point 430 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: where it stops being any version of universal. Okay, it 431 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: just starts being a singular fucked up story that nobodying. 432 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: It doesn't belong to black people. It doesn't belong to 433 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: brown people. That bitch's life sucks, perishspec I'm just saying, 434 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: And there's some people in this building that also have 435 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: stories that are closer to like a universal experience. And 436 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: I wonder about the tragedy porn even though for for me, 437 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: a person watching it, it worked, I was like, Holy shit, 438 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: this this motherfucker is crazy. 439 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: Okay, what about Monsters Ball? 440 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: WHOA? 441 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 2: What about that Holly. 442 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 4: Berry won it won, that won that award, won that 443 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 4: Golden Ticket. 444 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: This movie, it's worth noting Monsters Ball? You said is 445 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 1: a Lee Daniels production. Yes, right, okay. 446 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 2: Thoughts, I mean, she is getting banged out by Billy 447 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: Bob Thornton, not a drop of makeup, not a comb 448 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: going through the hair. 449 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 3: Did he's in it? 450 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: He's in it. 451 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: It's actually, I think one of his first serious roles, 452 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. 453 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: Honestly, he ate he ate he was in jail. 454 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 8: He did. 455 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 4: He was on death row maybe the way the way 456 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 4: the art works it always. 457 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: I don't like he was on death row and they 458 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 3: never told us why either. 459 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 2: He did not know. 460 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: They're just like he did. So he was he was 461 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: acting up the ledger. 462 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 8: Well he's er. 463 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: Was it amazing? 464 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 8: Wow? 465 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 4: L RP shout out to him. I'm a him in 466 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 4: real life and sweet sweet sweet guy. Okay, yeah, gave 467 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 4: good tip to. 468 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, that's good. That's good. 469 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 2: Some people like to speak ill of the dead, not me. 470 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: Sydney came on here and so far his only defended 471 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: white men. 472 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 4: But yo, whoa the cameras dead ass could be like, 473 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 4: no share you. You've been dragging Bax left and right, 474 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 4: all dark skinned mind. 475 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: You, that's my style. You, on the other hand, are 476 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: selling your people out. 477 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 4: I mean, I I enjoyed the rawness of it again, 478 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 4: Like if this was like an eight twenty four production, 479 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 4: we'd be like, yeah, we're. 480 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: Leg Well I think it did get all the love right. 481 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: It's another example of one. I think it won well, 482 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: she won the Oscar for it, certainly. I think it's 483 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: just like a lot of films where we sober up 484 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: to what the fuck we watched three years ago? 485 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean saying it won then, 486 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 4: but it wouldn't It wouldn't hold up right now? 487 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: Crash won the Oscar for Best Picture and is now 488 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: like people laugh at the idea that Crash was now. 489 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: Ya, I didn't like the invisible cloak. He tried to 490 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 2: cheat me. 491 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: You don't like. 492 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 4: Wait a minute, hold up, they're dragging Crash. 493 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, the people don't like Crashing. We come because it 494 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: starred Ludacris. 495 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: He was in Too Fast, two Furious. 496 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: They loved it, Guys. I'm not saying that Luda didn't 497 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: do a fine job. I'm saying that you don't give 498 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: a Ludacris film best Picture. 499 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 2: Then Tate was in it. They had everybody your name, 500 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 2: Mama and Crash talking about yeah, the patient queen, you 501 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: know who, Samuel Bullock. 502 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: You know the only other type of movie that does 503 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: movies like that where everybody's in it is like them 504 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: shitty movies where it's like Valentine's dad. 505 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 8: Cameons. 506 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: Ryan Philippe was in it. 507 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was too many big names for you to 508 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: be managing a good story. So then you just. 509 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 4: Like in a in a cheesy way, they were making 510 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 4: their points. Yeah, but then we found out the people 511 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 4: who wrote it were white. So that's what that's what 512 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 4: sucked us up. That's what it was, which is why 513 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 4: you and then you okay, you look at it as 514 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 4: a whole. Yeah, it did just that, Yeah. 515 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 8: Just what you thought they would do. Okay. 516 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: So so Monsters Ball is a defendable for you. Precious 517 00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: is a defendable for you. 518 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: I wasn't. 519 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 4: I wasn't mad at the movie Holly Berry winning the 520 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 4: Oscar for it. I was like, damn, why we gotta 521 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 4: be down and out to win? But they do that 522 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 4: for everybody either. You gotta what's her name? Charlista rone. 523 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 4: She she had to get ugly and murder niggas, like 524 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 4: you know. 525 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: I think the only difference is they can also escape 526 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: through like musicals. Do you know what I mean? 527 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 3: That? 528 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: Like Chicago, what's the la one that they stars? No, no, no, 529 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: Although a Star is Born is another good example, it's 530 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: not quite it is a musical to some extent, but 531 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: the one where they're La la land. Those they can 532 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: be joyful, they can be not like look like shit. 533 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 4: And when Leonardo DiCaprio was in Everything, they didn't give 534 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 4: him that award until he got raped by bear. 535 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 2: So you know what, maybe Academy is just doing everybody wrong. 536 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: Actually it's one for one. 537 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 8: I like that. 538 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: That's what you think happened with that bear. 539 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 8: That's what I said. It looked like. That's what it 540 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 8: looks like. 541 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 4: Am I wrong When they said when they said would 542 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 4: you rather be trapped in the forest with a bear 543 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 4: or a man? 544 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, which bear? Because bear in the movie 545 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: with you. 546 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, he's gonna take it. 547 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: That bear got him. I remember just learning what the 548 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: premise of that movie was and thinking, damn, this is 549 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: give this man the award. 550 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: This they did, and they did. 551 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 4: He I think heat he read the script and said, 552 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 4: you know what, it's time. 553 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 3: It's time. 554 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: Now I got a lock in. He said. 555 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 4: He ro to death in Titanic, Right, this is a 556 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 4: different it's a different type of death. 557 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 8: I'm not dying. 558 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: I'm not dying. I'm living. Jack Jack. 559 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: Sweet voice, my mama told me presents the start to 560 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: steal tour. We're very excited about it. Yeah, I'm not 561 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 1: about to bite my tongue. We want to sell it 562 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: out and the dates are coming up fast and so 563 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: if you live in one of these areas, we want 564 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: you to buy your tickets now. It's all available on 565 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: our instagrams, on our websites, on our link tree. December twelfth, 566 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: we're in Seattle and December fifteenth, you're closing it out 567 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: in Portland, Ore. 568 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 8: Again. 569 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: We want y'all to come out. We want y'all to 570 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: kick it. We will be doing our coveted live show 571 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: with special guests, with just me and David. Depending on 572 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: the city, it'll be a great time. 573 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 8: All that meet and greets you've been Chris Brown has 574 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 8: a good meet and greet. 575 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 7: Bro Let's be clear, I'll take a weird picture with 576 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 7: you for free. 577 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 8: Okay, here's what I'll say. 578 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 5: Okay, here we go and get at the full Tyler 579 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 5: Perry filmography. 580 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: Well, okay, And it's worth noting she only defended Lee, 581 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: didn't Yeah, she brought nothing to the table for Tyler. 582 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: Tyler so far as in defensible for you? 583 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 8: Is that true? 584 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: Why did I get married? I fucked you? That heavy. 585 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: I thought that was valid and into and mah two. 586 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 4: I said, I don't know if we need this, but 587 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 4: I heard they was doing a Why Why Did I 588 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 4: Get Married? 589 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 2: Three? And that's why Sisily was like. 590 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 8: And then she died. 591 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 11: Oh. 592 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 8: She was like, I'm tired. 593 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 4: Because Tyler said I paid Cicily a million dollars for 594 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 4: one day of work, and she was like, wait, why 595 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 4: are you telling them about my business? Yeah, because he 596 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 4: was trying to let her know, Hey, you're gonna have 597 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 4: to work some other days, babe. 598 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: You we got mourning we got for you. 599 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: That million was in advance. 600 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got work to do my death throw. 601 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 8: We gotta shoot season forty of Sisters? 602 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: Where are we going to? 603 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 10: Hell? 604 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 11: Yeah? 605 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: But Tyler, it's only been out three years? 606 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 8: How wash? He was back. 607 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 608 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 5: I think that I'll take Why Did I Get Married? 609 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 5: Just in the idea of just a romantic comedy. I 610 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 5: don't think it detracts anything from art or the conversation 611 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 5: or anything like that. Okay, because I do think that, 612 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 5: like when we're talking about him as a whole and 613 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 5: like his output, I don't think it needs to be 614 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 5: He doesn't have to be a twenty four to be worthy. 615 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: Of existing in the space, you know what I mean? Yeah, 616 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: I think that's always been my issue with it, right 617 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: is it's not that I'm expecting him to be. 618 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 8: And worthy isn't even the right word. 619 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: I just mean, like, it doesn't have to be bad 620 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: bad that stylized. But I guess that's my point is 621 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: I don't need it to be some high art. I 622 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: just needed to hold itself to some standard. 623 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 8: Do you know what I mean? 624 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 4: That? 625 00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: Like Adam Sandler movies, I don't like all of them. 626 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: I don't like honestly most of them, but every single 627 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: one of them, I go, Oh, Adam really thought this 628 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: was funny, do you know what I mean? He really 629 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: believed in like whatever this configuration of funny people and 630 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: jokes was, and he put it out believing that it 631 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,239 Speaker 1: was going to serve an audience, whereas like Tyler, I 632 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: don't think gives a fuck, but it does. 633 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 8: Degrees in what he does. No, I don't. 634 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 5: I don't mean that some of the stuff is like 635 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 5: definitely just put together and rushed out. But some of 636 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 5: them you could tell. It's like he wanted this to 637 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 5: be a good film, right, Like he wanted to Yeah, 638 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 5: and it served his audience. 639 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: But I'm saying that that's the violence, is to put 640 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: out the rush shit knowing you had more potential for 641 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: a quality film even as you see it, right, like, 642 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: even if it's not objectively quality, you knew, like, all right, 643 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: when I put this out, I stand on that. 644 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 4: What if Tyler Perry is ahead of the curve and 645 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 4: he said, these audiences they're pretty bad, So what are 646 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 4: we spending years. 647 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 2: Together and care about. Throw it out there. They don't 648 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: watch it, they're gonna pay money, they're gonna. 649 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 8: Go if you look at it that way, and and honestly. 650 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 5: Genie, right, if you look at it that way, Helazer, Well, 651 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 5: it's just. 652 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 4: Like comedians right now, stand up comedians posting clips. You're like, 653 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 4: that joke's not done, that needs some tags whatever. It's like, 654 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 4: what are we waiting for? 655 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: Put it? 656 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 4: And sometimes the stuff that's the most unfinished gets the 657 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 4: most viral moments. 658 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: So Tyler Perry is, oh, want you want to. 659 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 3: Stand up while let's go with your hand on your heart? 660 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: What the fuck is about that appen? 661 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 4: I think stand up comedians took a note from Tyler 662 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 4: Perry and they say, I put it out. 663 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: But I think that's what where I start to go like, yeah, 664 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: but that is a greater instruction of the world, right, yes, 665 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: because I do think the deterioration of art is like 666 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: a fundamental reflection of like what's happening in the larger 667 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: world around us. 668 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 8: It doesn't necessarily mean good still, right, No. 669 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: He's an innovator for sure, Like he really broke ground 670 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: on some vile, vile ship, right, Like, yeah, and that's. 671 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 4: All yet what we know how it's done. You're like, oh, sir, 672 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 4: how much? Tell me what the prescription is. 673 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: But but even even the idea that you have, like 674 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: all these shoots happening constantly on this large property that 675 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: you're not doing multiple takes on that you're not even 676 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: fucking like you. 677 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: Know, you're not there, Sidney, what do. 678 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 3: We What game are we playing? 679 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: Fact? 680 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: That's the whole boy, yeah, is that we're not allowed 681 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: to see it because they're doing crazy ship with these 682 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: these people whose lives that will never come. 683 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 2: Back, these people Black people. Don't just say these people. 684 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 3: These dumb dumbs trapped in a cave. 685 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 4: I can't now your hairline is nice, but don't push 686 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 4: you back. 687 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 3: Alan fucking pain. 688 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 4: You if you if you love Alan, so much. 689 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: I want you to get his tattoo. Get a tattoo, 690 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 2: Alan Allen. 691 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 8: I just miss him. 692 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 2: Okay, he's alive. Is he find him on Instagram? 693 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: I bet he got a different Instagram. 694 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: He said that pain fucked him up. 695 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: I bet it's at Alan Tyler Payne. 696 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 4: There was a there was a new movie recently, not recently, 697 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 4: but like earlier this year that Tyler Perry made with 698 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 4: Kelly Rowland Mia Coppola, and I watched it. 699 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched it. Was it terrible? 700 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 8: No? 701 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 2: Was it amazing? No? 702 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 3: But I enjoyed it. 703 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 4: I enjoyed it, and that sometimes we just need something 704 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 4: that we could put our eyes on, take us out 705 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 4: of the moment. 706 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: But again, I think the point is less that he 707 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: can't do it. I don't think my suggestion is everything 708 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 1: he's ever made has been a violent violation Daddy's little girls. 709 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: I like, and I was like, all right, that's cool. 710 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: It's not I'm not offended by this. 711 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 4: It just is you just you want to do things 712 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,280 Speaker 4: that you want things made that doesn't offend you. 713 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: No, I'm saying I want there to be a standard 714 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: of quality so that we're not getting clips of a 715 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 1: dude getting punched in the face and spinning a full 716 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: three sixty and saying oh as he falls down. I'm 717 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: saying I want the I want a billionaire who owned 718 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: literally half of Atlanta to invest in quality wigs and 719 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: that not to be part of the conversation. 720 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 3: I want to explore the world beyond mister Brown. 721 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:12,720 Speaker 2: Can they put music. 722 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 4: Olivia everything that he's saying right now, I want a 723 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 4: real story that you believe in every time, because you 724 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 4: have the. 725 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: Resources and frankly, you present to us to be this 726 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: healer of our community. So put the effort in to 727 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: show us that love every single time. 728 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 4: So once you say once all that done is Tyler 729 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 4: Langston will be right on that motherfucking lot. 730 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 2: That's what he's trying to tell you. It's trying to 731 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 2: tell you. 732 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: Get you when buddy, when I run out, I'll come 733 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: be a slave of slave away and with me. 734 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 8: This is really just it's ending pro Tyler Perry, which. 735 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 2: Is tew you know it. 736 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: No, I want to be clear. I'm I could not 737 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 1: be more anti Tyler Perry. You too are pro Tyler Perry. 738 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: For me, I am the exact opposite. I think he's 739 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 1: the worst. 740 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 4: I'm pro you know, we should be able to be 741 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 4: as messy and ridiculous and unprofessional as everybody else in 742 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 4: this business, and we're not. 743 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 2: We're not allowed to. 744 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 4: And Tyler Perry is doing that and so therefore but 745 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 4: what he But it also is like bad because, like 746 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 4: you said, there's so many people who are trapped in 747 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 4: this circle of Perry production. 748 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,919 Speaker 1: I just dream of a day when we don't have 749 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: to hold it hold ourselves to the standard of the 750 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: worst white person. 751 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 2: I didn't say white. Now you said white, well it 752 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 2: was I said the industry. I said, I said the industry. 753 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 2: I feel like we are. 754 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 3: You almost said jewish. 755 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 2: I did not say that. 756 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 4: What I'm saying is we always have to do black excellence, 757 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 4: black excellence. We gotta have autocrest, we got to we've 758 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 4: got to go to school for we have to be 759 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 4: so about this life. And it's just like that's that's 760 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,439 Speaker 4: not how art is made all the time. We didn't 761 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 4: go to NYU, we didn't go to Juilliar. So that 762 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 4: means that the way we conduct you know, acting and 763 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 4: comedy or whatever is not up to standard. 764 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: No, I think I'm not suggesting even for a second 765 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: that there needs to be a standardization of quality. I'm 766 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: not suggesting that there needs to be a standardization of 767 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: this industry, but I do think that like this breaks 768 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: down to questions of human decency. 769 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 2: For me, human decency this is. 770 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: This is not just oh, I made the best movie 771 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: I could make and if you like it, you like it. 772 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: If you don't, you don't. I've seen plenty of those movies, 773 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: and we can argue all day about which one souls are. 774 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: But there's nothing he's putting in on sisters. Do you 775 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? 776 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 4: Oh Yo, when I tell you the B E. T. 777 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 4: Bandits is going to be after you, I don't want 778 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 4: to be a I don't want to be a party. 779 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 3: I get it. 780 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 2: Someone makes sure you untagged. Somebody's gonna be they are, 781 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 2: they will ride at dawn. 782 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying. 783 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: I get it that, I'm I understand that there is 784 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: an audience. 785 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 2: The feelers even better. 786 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,839 Speaker 1: I don't think that he's trying his best on all 787 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: of these things, and I think we got to be 788 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,959 Speaker 1: honest about that, Dave. 789 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 5: I think that what are we talking about is it 790 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 5: like a ratios thing, Like what do you think is 791 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 5: good to bad? 792 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 8: Ratio? 793 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 2: Is yeah, tell me, let us know what you right now, 794 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 2: right now? Hold on? What is good for you movie? 795 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:47,959 Speaker 2: Right now? 796 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 3: Show? 797 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 2: No? 798 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: No, No, that's that feels that that's complicating the conversation. 799 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 2: Okay, because you want to you want to keep your jobs. 800 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not going to play this nasty hold me 801 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: if I wouldn't do what I did right now, that's 802 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: not the point of this conversation. 803 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 3: A good tribe, sister, I can't even. 804 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 2: They won't even see me a script. 805 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 3: I can't even. 806 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: I think if we're talking ratio of what I think 807 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: he offers up good to bad, I think it's ninety 808 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: percent bad and ten percent good. 809 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Did you like Vampire 810 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 2: in Brooklyn? 811 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it was a good movie. 812 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 2: It was a good movie. No, what is good? 813 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 8: Not that? 814 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 4: Why wasn't it good? Eddie Murphy was in it? Angela Basket, Yeah, 815 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 4: Eddie Murphy is in a female Peg was in it. 816 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:50,359 Speaker 3: He was Yo, yo, you think it's a good movie. 817 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: Excuse me, you think it's a good. 818 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 2: Movie, iconic, legendary. 819 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 3: No, no, no, boo boo. 820 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play this game where we worve around it. 821 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: Because a bunch of people we like are. 822 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 2: In butter Scotch behavior. 823 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: Off the stage. 824 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 2: I love it. I loved it. There's a lot of 825 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 2: movie context also, it's sponsoring. 826 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 827 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 5: But it's not a great movie, thank you, And that's fine, 828 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 5: that's okay. That's kind of how it is with the 829 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:23,720 Speaker 5: Tyler Perry stuff. 830 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 3: That's a good evil good who laugh? 831 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 1: What's in his coffee? 832 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:34,919 Speaker 8: Meth? 833 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: This is meth like behavior. This whole episode has been 834 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: brought to you by meth. 835 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 2: How dare you there? 836 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 4: You text me an hour before the podcast and I 837 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,760 Speaker 4: brought my my sisterly love here to save the pod, 838 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 4: and now you said, I'm on meth. 839 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 2: Brothers, Where's where's brothers? 840 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 12: It is he has that it literally exists sides. No, right, 841 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 12: that's the problem. You don't even know how thorough this 842 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 12: man is. There's an auntie, I'm hurting. 843 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 1: This man made all the stuff and you I hear 844 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: being like, it's already it could be subjective, no. 845 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 5: Stop, how it is him being the devil to me 846 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 5: does come down to more than content or anything. I 847 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 5: think it's the way that he runs the ship that's 848 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 5: that is the thing that I think that regardless of 849 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 5: whether or not you enjoy it or you don't enjoy it. 850 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 5: That is the sinister thread that we can all agree on, right, 851 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 5: And that's the problem with Tyler. 852 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: He's saving insane amounts of money it's fit to hoard 853 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: for himself by not paying people what they're worth and 854 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: not unionizing. And more than that, he then even saves 855 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: more and more money by forcing people to work hours 856 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: that are far beyond reason to stay sort of like 857 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 1: insular inside of this fucking dome that it's It feels 858 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: like we would be irresponsible to walk away from this 859 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: episode and say that Tyler Perry is like a good guy. 860 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 4: I just want to say, if we if Dave Langston 861 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 4: and me die, we did not commit to. 862 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,280 Speaker 2: We did not kill ourselves. We did on this podcast. 863 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: If if they find my body on Tyler Perry's studios, 864 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: I did kill myself. 865 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 8: Anywhere else. 866 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 2: How is this down? 867 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 8: I don't think anybody's paid attention because. 868 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: Crazy supports it. No, they never listened to a single episode, 869 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: mister James, iHeart plugged in the end phones. Well, I 870 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: think we did it. I think we're I think we've 871 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 1: concluded our all our positions on Tyler Perry, and they 872 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 1: do seem vast and a little diverse. We we have 873 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 1: varying sort of scales of what we consider to be 874 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: evil about him. 875 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,320 Speaker 2: Is that Yeah, it's just crazy. 876 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 4: We said all this stuff, and it's like we in 877 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 4: this industry do we want to work? 878 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 11: Like? 879 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a good feeling. I'll be okay. 880 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 4: Well, I mean our good brother here English teacher, Abby, 881 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 4: I mean you you living you like before me, like skinfore. 882 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 2: I don't know what. 883 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 8: We don't worry about me. 884 00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 10: The woman to fend for herself, Tyler, right you holding 885 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,760 Speaker 10: on his legs as he's trying to leave the house. 886 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm ready give her a call, Sidney, 887 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 1: before you, before you go on down to the compound, 888 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: will you tell us? 889 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 8: Uh? 890 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,280 Speaker 1: Will you tell us some cool shit you got. 891 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 4: Going on new, brand new podcast. Well it's remixed, but 892 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,919 Speaker 4: it's called Mess. It's with me and your fabe, Marie 893 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 4: Foston on my Heart Big Money Players Network, and we 894 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 4: just came out and I'm very excited to be a 895 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 4: part of the family. And obviously I'm on Instagram. Please 896 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 4: follow me in order for me to get the promo 897 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 4: and the brand deals that I deserve, I need. 898 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 2: More followers, So follow me. 899 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: I think that's fair. 900 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 2: Just sid b W. 901 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 4: I should be doing something with hair or makeup or 902 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 4: you know. If the lesbians follow this, I'm sure they don't, 903 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 4: but if you do, please follow me, just sid BW. 904 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 8: We can have some lesbians to come a few three. 905 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always uh it's a girl and then her 906 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 1: her much more more masculine. 907 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 3: Watch your mouth, friend, watch your. 908 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: Mouth, masculine presenting girlfriend who who is less happy to 909 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: be there. It's usually the Yeah, it's like a small 910 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 1: girl with glasses, and he was very nice, very nice, 911 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: very excited, and then a a masculine presenting lady behind 912 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 1: a camera being like, hey, y'all was y'all was cool? 913 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 5: But I have seen a couple of times where it 914 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 5: was a masculine lady and she put her small lady on. 915 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 8: Oh nice. Oh yeah, I don't know the shot to 916 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 8: that couple in d C. 917 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,240 Speaker 2: So it's only so it's only one couple of show coming. 918 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, usually do better, do better? 919 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 8: What can we do? What we talk about? 920 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 2: I saved the podcast. 921 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 4: I don't think you know, you understand they were looking 922 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 4: for to be seen and that was me. 923 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: Oh thank god, good job. Hell yeah, And you can 924 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: follow me at Langston Kerman and we're still on the 925 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 1: start to Steal tour. We want you to come out 926 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 1: to the next couple of shows. 927 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 7: Uh. 928 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 1: We We've got Seattle, We've got Portland, we and Okay, 929 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: that's all the ones that I think we're probably gonna have. 930 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's it should be all right? 931 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, anyway, and if you want to send us 932 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: your own drops, your own conspiracy theories, if you want 933 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 1: to tell us what Tyler Perry does for you, send 934 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: it all to My Mama pod at gmail dot com. 935 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: We would love to hear from you. By the merch 936 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 1: of call your Mother, Sucker, Dick, myye Bitch. 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