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Speaker 1: all over the field in the past and in both things.

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Speaker 1: Is really just an incredible player. You know, he was

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Speaker 1: one of our targets really starting in the teens. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is a great outcome for us. What is going on?

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another late edition of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Gabe Henderson alongside Ron Johnson and Jay

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Speaker 1: Nelson and guys. Round one has concluded um after a

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Speaker 1: twenty pick slide in the draft, the Vikings initially had

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Speaker 1: safety out of the University of Georgia. And Ron, we

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Speaker 1: did our instant analysis that's on Vikings dot com right

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Speaker 1: now and just breaking down why Lewis Scenes fits on

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Speaker 1: this field for Vikings fans that have not watched that,

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Speaker 1: how does he fit into this Vikings roster and how

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Speaker 1: excited are you to have him as the newest member

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Speaker 1: of the Minnesota Vikings. Well, in today's football, it's not

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Speaker 1: like the old school antiquated defenses where it's like you

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Speaker 1: have to have four dbs, you gotta have three linebackers,

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Speaker 1: you need four down lineman. Nowadays, coaches are getting more

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Speaker 1: and more smart, tricky. They're looking at offenses and how

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Speaker 1: can we combat what they're doing to us. Well, one

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Speaker 1: way is you throw a guy in the mix like this.

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Speaker 1: So if you have a team you're gonna play with

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers use their running backs in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: This is a guy in Lewis Seene that can easily

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Speaker 1: your tight end. Now he can still play in the

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Speaker 1: Smith can now walk up in the box and be

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Speaker 1: a nickel linebacker nickel's safety. You don't, I mean teams.

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Speaker 1: defensive backs. It's not always four corners and two safeties.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's where that mindset where we used

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Speaker 1: can go three and three, have three safeties, three dB,

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Speaker 1: so you know you can blitz somebody. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: see him coming up and making tackles. He's a great blitzer.

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Speaker 1: He's fast at four three, so we can cover a

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Speaker 1: it's like we drifted in the first round. How do

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Speaker 1: Of course, and the same with Cam buying him, Cam

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Speaker 1: buying him play cornerback in college. So if you have

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Speaker 1: Louis Sene and Harrison Smith as your deep two. You

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Speaker 1: walk buying him up. Now he becomes your cover guy

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Speaker 1: You figure it out. Jay, you're throwsome this signing. Looking

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Speaker 1: But before we go any further, I know Vikings fans

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Speaker 1: look at what we got back in return. We traded

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Speaker 1: exchange for their thirty second, their thirty fourth and then

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Speaker 1: And Kevin O'Connell said in his press conference tonight, he

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Speaker 1: So that's a really coveted pick. You're gonna have teams

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the Vikings are fine at thirty four,

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Speaker 1: Those are all really good points, Royn. But Jay, if

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Speaker 1: it's going to be so unorthodox. This is by far

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Speaker 1: It's just chaoss like crazy. You know. The thing about it, too,

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Speaker 1: well sixty six of the second pick of the third round.

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Speaker 1: So like again, you're you're within that window here if

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Speaker 1: and as they've cited, they're saying that they feel like

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Speaker 1: to get some top tier guys and there's a list

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Speaker 1: of players that you know, we've we've identified here and

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Speaker 1: we can talk about later, but the idea behind this

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Speaker 1: they're lucky. And so that's where when it comes to

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Speaker 1: you know, I know everyone wants to talk about it,

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Speaker 1: everyone wants to understand it. They're trying to see what

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Speaker 1: the experts are trying to say. Anytime that stuff comes out,

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Speaker 1: grain of salt, knowing that at least half of them

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Speaker 1: Because my mock, what number did I have to go

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Speaker 1: up to to get Derek Seeley for exactly? Like I

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Speaker 1: get him at twelve. Yeah, that's why I'm like, what

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Speaker 1: twenty to twenty four, I got Kyer Elam. I got

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Speaker 1: first round. But again, that's why these coaches get paid

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be a homer here, but he

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Speaker 1: does make this room better. Yeah, but he's a guy

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Speaker 1: the day, he's explosive and he can make plays and

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Speaker 1: he's proven to do so at a high level. Now

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Speaker 1: you bring a guy with that type of energy, that

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Speaker 1: go best player available, you find ways to put him

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Speaker 1: going to find ways to put him on the field.

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Speaker 1: And now we have depth behind him or in front

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Speaker 1: it play immediately. And how do you feel when Harrison

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Speaker 1: him had to start out, Oh, I was nervous. Exactly,

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Speaker 1: you need depth and it's youth. And that's the thing is, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's youth depth. Like we've all seen multiple positions and

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Speaker 1: that's one of the things when you sit there and

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Speaker 1: know how many times do they say Everyone's like, well,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna switch to a three four versus a four three,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, we're gonna use whatever the opponent dictates.

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Speaker 1: And if it's going to turn into in this league,

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Speaker 1: as possible, this guy gives us flexibility at that position

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Speaker 1: to play. The Dolphins, yeah, they needs right and they're

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Speaker 1: to get to the ultimate goal of winning a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And that starts tomorrow with Day two of the draft.

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Speaker 1: So the Vikings, basically, like Jay said, have the thirty

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Speaker 1: Vikings will select and we'll meet the newest members of

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Speaker 1: this Minnesota Vikings team. Fellas, is always a pleasure talking

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Speaker 1: to you. We get to do it again another time

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. This would be a lot of fun. As

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Speaker 1: we continue to see what guys gonna wear purple next year,

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Speaker 1: all these things were coming together. We're starting to see

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Speaker 1: the vision of Quasi Adopel Mensa and Kevin O'Connell, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's the most fun and exciting thing to

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Speaker 1: see action. We've had a lot of words, a lot

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Speaker 1: of press conferences, and now it's action time. And eventually

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Speaker 1: these guys will start getting on the field, but more

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Speaker 1: importantly getting in their books to be able to understand

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Speaker 1: the plays, because they got to do that in order

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Speaker 1: to get on the field. But as always, Ron Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Jay Nelson, I appreciate you guys joining me today, Vikings fans.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys staying out late or waking up

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Speaker 1: early or whatever time you listen to us today, so

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Speaker 1: stay tuned tomorrow night. We'll be right back and stay

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Speaker 1: tuned to Vikings dot com because there will be plenty

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Speaker 1: and I mean plenty of content. Tatum ever, will have

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Speaker 1: a one on one with Lewis seen tomorrow and we'll

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Speaker 1: have more instant reactions. We'll have some more one on

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Speaker 1: ones and playing more draft content coming your way, So

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Speaker 1: don't go to sleep too long. We'll be talking to

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Speaker 1: you soon