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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to Drive. I'm Dale

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Speaker 1: Law with Matt Williamson and Matt you who broke down

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Speaker 1: for Pro Football Network the top wide receivers in the

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Speaker 1: NFL for the season. We were talking off the air

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Speaker 1: and you said that this was difficult list coming up

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Speaker 1: with twenty five. I don't know that it would be

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Speaker 1: a difficult time coming up with I think figuring out

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Speaker 1: who who is who those top are. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: better way of saying it, because there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: good young names. Chase Claypool comes to mind. You know

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Speaker 1: that didn't make my list that if they were running

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Speaker 1: backs or another position would have you know, something that

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Speaker 1: played at that level would have been in the top

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Speaker 1: twenty five at their respective position. And there's so many

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Speaker 1: good receivers in the league and the league has been

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Speaker 1: flooded the last couple of draft classes with young ones.

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Speaker 1: Putting them in order wasn't easy though. Yeah, um, I

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Speaker 1: think that goes back to it. I know when we

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Speaker 1: went over your list of the top twenty five running backs,

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Speaker 1: when people talk about, oh, you don't draft a running

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Speaker 1: back in the in the in the first round. If

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Speaker 1: id me twenty good ones in the NFL, yeah right right,

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Speaker 1: I mean I'd like most dirt on there. And he

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Speaker 1: wasn't even the last guy or you know, I mean

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Speaker 1: some of those names you're not super comfortable with lining

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Speaker 1: up as your every down run back. And he's the

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Speaker 1: top twenty five running back. And whereas if I picked

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Speaker 1: anybody on this list of this top twenty five wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: you go, oh, yeah, he could be my number one,

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Speaker 1: or I don't he's ever coming off the field. Yeah

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Speaker 1: he's number two, right, you know, he presents problems for

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Speaker 1: the opponent. The opponent's not thrilled he's on the field.

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Speaker 1: And that goes for ten or fifteen others that didn't

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Speaker 1: make the list, you know, like some guys that didn't

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Speaker 1: make the list. To me, Will Fuller would have been

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Speaker 1: my twenty six. I just couldn't trust him with with injuries.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned some young guys, Ceedee, Lamb, Claypool. I mean

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Speaker 1: I expect them to be on it next year. I

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Speaker 1: just think that the body of work wasn't quite big

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Speaker 1: enough to say, you know, this is where you're at

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Speaker 1: right now. I didn't consider ju Ju for it, but

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Speaker 1: if I maybe went ten more, that he would have

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Speaker 1: been in the consideration. You know, I'm just thinking that

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Speaker 1: the Steeler stuff. But there is a Steeler on there,

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Speaker 1: and he's at number twenty five. That's Dante Johnson. And

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Speaker 1: it was an easy one, you know. I mean there's

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Speaker 1: again there's a lot of names there that were, um,

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Speaker 1: you know close. I just think that he is a

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Speaker 1: feature receiver. When he was out there the Steelers from

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Speaker 1: the ball over and over and over, almost in Antonio

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Speaker 1: Brown like Manner. Drops weren't his friend this year, you know,

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Speaker 1: and that's a problem that he missed a little time

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Speaker 1: here and there to me that you know, the drops,

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Speaker 1: while the number was alarming, all came within like a

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Speaker 1: three games. Yeah, he had you know, he had a

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Speaker 1: bad The whole team had a bad month of December.

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Speaker 1: You know that he wasn't alone in that. And you know,

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Speaker 1: so we all Jante Johnson led the league and drops, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but like not he had like more than half of

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Speaker 1: them came in a three game stretch. A lot of

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Speaker 1: kind of had the yips. Yeah, even when you're looking

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Speaker 1: at college guys think drops are an overrated stat or

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Speaker 1: thing to an analyze. You know, I think about West

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Speaker 1: Walker a lot. Wes Welker had a ton of drops. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he also had a million targets, Like they peppered in

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Speaker 1: with targets. The more targets you have, the more drops

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have obvious you know, for obvious reasons. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, if he's dropping consistently dropping the football. Uh,

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Speaker 1: if you're not making big catches, you know, if you

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Speaker 1: if you're catching the ball. Jante Johnson, I think overall

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Speaker 1: last season he had fifteen drops or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Damn he led the league. Yeah, if it was a

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Speaker 1: up every week, then that's a that's more of a problem.

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Speaker 1: That's more a problem. But if it's a you know, again,

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Speaker 1: he had that spate where he dropped, you know, seven

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Speaker 1: or eight passes over a three game period. You know,

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Speaker 1: that kind of makes the numbers look a lot worse

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Speaker 1: than what they were. And the team knows better than

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Speaker 1: we do to like did someone step on his hand

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Speaker 1: two weeks ago or something? You know, like not all

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Speaker 1: that stuff always gets revealed to I mean, the fact

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Speaker 1: that it was in such a short stint, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's eye opening, but it's probably was in his head.

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Speaker 1: He definitely you know, but if we don't see it again, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think twice about it. Like he has good

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Speaker 1: ball skills, and ball skills to me are more important

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Speaker 1: than your drop numbers. At twenty four, you had Courtland Sutton.

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Speaker 1: I think if he would have played all year, he

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Speaker 1: probably would have been I don't know, seventeen something like that.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a really good player. Didn't do a

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Speaker 1: thing last year though, right, That's that's the tough thing

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Speaker 1: about ranking him, you know, as opposed to some of

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Speaker 1: the other guys who did play. I mean I wasn't

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Speaker 1: nice to him, you know. I mean I didn't think,

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Speaker 1: oh he got he would have been great. We didn't

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Speaker 1: see it. But there's a lot to work with their

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Speaker 1: twenty three. You have an interesting player here, Antonio Brown. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure. I don't know if he's that guy anymore, Matt.

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Speaker 1: I think he's twenty three ish. I thought he played

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Speaker 1: really well for the box he did, and I can't

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take it away from him. At the

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Speaker 1: same time, I don't know that he's the twenty three

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Speaker 1: best wide receiver in the league at this point in

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Speaker 1: his career. I mean there's an argument. I mean and

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Speaker 1: I He's a tough one for me. Odell is another

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Speaker 1: one that's somebody on this list. It's a tough one

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Speaker 1: for me. Um. Some of it is body of work,

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Speaker 1: which isn't fair. That's not what this is. Like. If

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Speaker 1: you asked me right now, and I'm not factoring in

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Speaker 1: any off field stuff when they line up, would you

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Speaker 1: rather have Chase Claypoo or Antonio Brown? I'd rather And

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Speaker 1: I looked at it this way, is if I'm a

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Speaker 1: corner or a defensive coordinator, would I'd rather play against

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Speaker 1: a B or Chase. I still think the answer is

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Speaker 1: I'd rather play against Chase. But I just think Antonio

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Speaker 1: is still really good coming out of his aches and

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Speaker 1: just a little bit out of sight, out of mind.

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Speaker 1: But he was a tough one for me. I mean

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Speaker 1: almost he almost didn't make the list. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: know he had He was a free agent this offseason

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Speaker 1: and nobody and nobody was beating down his door. Now,

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Speaker 1: some of the off field stuff may have been part

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Speaker 1: of that, but he really hasn't had any of those

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Speaker 1: if you're going to take a chance on him, like hey,

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Speaker 1: we could use that guy, right, and nobody did. Nobody

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Speaker 1: didn't think we saw a huge sample of him in Tampa.

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Speaker 1: You know, like what if he was in Green Bay

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Speaker 1: opposite Davante Adams when he had eighty five catches, you know.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so he was a tough one. But I

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Speaker 1: was a little bit generous to him and O'Dell and Julio,

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Speaker 1: who have really been like the best receivers of this generation,

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Speaker 1: because I still think they're paint the butt to play.

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Speaker 1: They're paying the but but they're slipping. They're a sleep

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Speaker 1: not not what they used. They're not the best players.

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Speaker 1: Don't league anymore. Now it's twenty two, you have Jarvis Landry.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not a big Landry fan. Never had him

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Speaker 1: in fantasy. See. Uh, I don't know. I don't see

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Speaker 1: what he does a special. Is he better than say

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Speaker 1: Tyler Boyden slot I think but similar I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he is. I mean, he produces a year after year.

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Speaker 1: It's not super pretty. He's a really good blocker. Not

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Speaker 1: that I put a lot of stock in blocks, you know,

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Speaker 1: but he gets it done year after year and never

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Speaker 1: gets the credit he deserves. Like I didn't have Woods

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Speaker 1: or cup on there. From the Rams, they were all

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Speaker 1: the slot, not special, but effective. Yeah, I mean Landry

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Speaker 1: is not exciting. Would you rather have Jervis Landry Adam feeling? Yeah, Steve,

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Speaker 1: I haven't gotten that far, all right, I mean I

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Speaker 1: even thought, I mean, how about him or Cole Beasley?

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Speaker 1: I almost put Beasley on the list. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: a really good year. Well, if you're gonna start, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about, you know, straight pure slot receivers. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to Dallas. Lamb, Yeah, I thought about him, he was.

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Speaker 1: I mean I would much rather have Ceedee Lamb than

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Speaker 1: Jervis Landry especially, Yes, I would too. Right now, I

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Speaker 1: don't know who's the way the football player right this second.

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Speaker 1: I know I think it's Landry or I wouldn't put

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Speaker 1: him on the list. It's your list. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, but Lamb's awesome and I want lad I

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Speaker 1: think he'll pass Cooper before you know it. Twenty one

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Speaker 1: you have Tyler Lockett, that's starting to slip a little

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Speaker 1: bit for him, a little bit. At the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, though he had a pretty good, pretty good

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Speaker 1: Uh he was a weird yeah, because the season stats

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Speaker 1: look great and then but he did most of his

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Speaker 1: damage in like three or four games, and they drafted

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Speaker 1: a similar player to him. I think there's some concern there.

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Speaker 1: He is, he's a little boom or bust. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's not the Sean Jackson. He's a lot more of

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Speaker 1: has a little bit of that to his game, and

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Speaker 1: clearly Metcalf became the guy there. Yeah, the twenty you

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Speaker 1: of Odell Beckham. My first line I think when I

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Speaker 1: on his list because he has some sutton like qualities.

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Speaker 1: He has some maybe like qualities, and I mean that

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Speaker 1: in a bad way. When he's good, he's really good, um,

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Speaker 1: when he when he actually plays. That's the liabilities huge

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Speaker 1: on this list. Odell Beckham um hasn't played a full season,

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Speaker 1: sixteen game season since two thousand sixteen. That's ancient history.

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Speaker 1: It's ancient history. In the NFL. Terms played seven games

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Speaker 1: last year did play. I think he's played twenty games

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Speaker 1: as a Brown. He did play sixteen games. I said

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Speaker 1: he didn't. He played sixteen in two thousand nineteen, but

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Speaker 1: he only started fifteen and he only he only had

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Speaker 1: that year, he had seventy four catches for a thousand

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Speaker 1: thirty five yards and they had to force it to

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Speaker 1: get him that. Yeah, that was a lot of force feeding.

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Speaker 1: And he was not at dominent player, I mean, really

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Speaker 1: has not been a dominant player in the Brown's uniform.

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Speaker 1: And it's not like he just got there. No, this

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Speaker 1: is gonna be year three for him. There. I think

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Speaker 1: that's most likely to either be off this list or

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Speaker 1: near the top of the list this year. You know,

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Speaker 1: like if he spends his wheels one more year, done by,

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Speaker 1: you're gone. The last two seasons, the last two seasons

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland is only two seasons. Fifty five point six

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Speaker 1: percent of the past is throwing his way. That's not

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Speaker 1: good enough. Last year it was fifty three point five.

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Speaker 1: It's just not good enough. I mean you should be

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Speaker 1: as a they have not won that trade. They've lost

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Speaker 1: that trade. They gave a lot up for him. They

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Speaker 1: thought they were a player away, and they've been winning,

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Speaker 1: three receivers have better numbers than him. Didn't get a

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Speaker 1: lot of help from his quarterback, and never ever does

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Speaker 1: At five you have h a Brown. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: he's a lot of Julio. Yeah, I mean it was.

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Speaker 1: This year is gonna be a big deal for him

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Speaker 1: because he's not only he gonna get you know, coverage

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Speaker 1: rolled his direction. It's gonna be like two gunners banging

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Speaker 1: like he's gonna get all sorts of attention and put

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Speaker 1: a linebacker over him to hit him first and knock

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Speaker 1: him off the line or over top of him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we'll see if he can handle a massive amounts of

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Speaker 1: coverage rolled his way. But boy, I like his game

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Speaker 1: after the catcher, He's sound stands out for him to Yeah,

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Speaker 1: number four is another guy for the you know who

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Speaker 1: battles against the receivers have to run real fast. That's

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. Yeah right, He's like a four or five guy.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't win any He's always covered, always covered, had

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Speaker 1: a huge percentage of catches for first downs and touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: You know, gets down field more than people think. You

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Speaker 1: don't think of him as a deep ball receiver at all.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, one of the stats I looked

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Speaker 1: up was catches twenty five yards or more. He was

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Speaker 1: like third in the league. And he's not what He's

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Speaker 1: just tough. He's just super tough with amazing ball skills.

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Speaker 1: He's a Hall of Famer too. Anythink he needs to

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Speaker 1: do it a little bit on that he's on that trajectory. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: I didn't really think that the move to Arizona benefited

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Speaker 1: him last year. No. I thought it hurt him more

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Speaker 1: because they he got so many targets at Houston, but

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Speaker 1: then he got so many targets at Arizona. I feel

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Speaker 1: like you'd get so many targets on March, Like, why

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Speaker 1: does the quarterbacks not throw It doesn't matter if he's

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Speaker 1: open or not, he gots it. I think that's something

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Speaker 1: though that I think, especially early in the season. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that Murray trusted it like DeShawn Watson did.

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Speaker 1: Like he would look there and Okay, he's covered, whereas

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Speaker 1: Watson would just go out, Okay, I'm gonna throw it there.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Hopkins was like, you gotta throw that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll prove it, ye know right. Uh. It was torn

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Speaker 1: between the top two, which order three? You have Stefon Digs.

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Speaker 1: I might have had him higher. What an amazing year

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Speaker 1: and they didn't throw the ball much in Minnesota. Andy

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Speaker 1: was splitting catches with Ellen. He was great there, but

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Speaker 1: he was awesome for Buffalo last year. All levels, great receiver,

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Speaker 1: a great route runner. Um plays with an edge. You

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Speaker 1: gotta like Diggs. Uh. Two, you have Davonte Adams. I

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Speaker 1: held it the system against him a little. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was the most productive player per game.

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Speaker 1: I thought he had the best year of any receiver

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Speaker 1: maybe Digs in the league last year. Um, and he

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Speaker 1: always gets all the attention. Of course, he's he's a

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Speaker 1: great player. I don't know. The amazing thing with him

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Speaker 1: is the touchdowns. Yeah, I mean last year, every year, yea,

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Speaker 1: every year he's got twelve fourteen. Last year was eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Every one knows that's where the ball is going and

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Speaker 1: the zone and he still gets it, and he still

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Speaker 1: gets it and still gets open. Yeah. Great one. And

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Speaker 1: then at one you have Tyreek Hill. I was torn

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Speaker 1: on that. I might flip, I might have Hill third

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Speaker 1: and move those other two guys up. Yeah, I can

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Speaker 1: understand it. I just I went back to the theory

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Speaker 1: of who do I not want to play against? And

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Speaker 1: I think Hill's so scary, you know, even the behind

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage stuff, the motion stuff. He's not

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Speaker 1: just a burner, but boy is he a burner. He's

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Speaker 1: not clearly one for me, and he's not going to

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Speaker 1: be as productive as those guys because I mean, Kelsey

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Speaker 1: has numbers similar to when that, but that also helps Hill.

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Speaker 1: It does help him, you know, because you can't take

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Speaker 1: away all those things. No, he just can't. It helps

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Speaker 1: Kelsey and it helps it helps Hill. I mean you

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Speaker 1: think you've seen you know, for example, when when the

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Speaker 1: first time Tampa Bay played Kansas City last year. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're they're they're trying to say, Okay, we're gonna, we're

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Speaker 1: not gonna let Kelsey beat us. We're gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: and Hill goes off for two yards in the first quarter. Right, Well,

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Speaker 1: then they decided, hey, we're not gonna let them do

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Speaker 1: They can't do that anymore. And then he's Kelsey catching

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Speaker 1: his his fifteen yards or ten yards over the middle,

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Speaker 1: and that's the beauty of the offense. Yeah, and that's

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Speaker 1: what they thought. If we can add in Edwards a

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Speaker 1: layer to that mix too, there's no way you can

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Speaker 1: take all those things away. And my homes obviously helps

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Speaker 1: things too. But Kelsey and Hill are really really good

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Speaker 1: for each other. Yeah, you know, you can't take away both.

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Speaker 1: And oh, coincidentally that maybe the Steelers are trying to

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Speaker 1: build a little bit of that as well. You know,

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Speaker 1: people who want the Steelers just cut Ebron. No, he's

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Speaker 1: a valuable you can you can cause his problems absolutely, right, absolutely, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know they just need just don't think of him

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Speaker 1: as a block. Yeah, right, don't ask him to do that,

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Speaker 1: and you're fine, didn't the Chiefs don't ask Kelsey to block.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're not seeing Kelsey blowing people off the

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Speaker 1: line at the goal line. And I'm not saying that

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Speaker 1: Debron's is Kelsey, but he does some similar things down

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Speaker 1: the field. You can use them the same way, all right,

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Speaker 1: without question? Um Coincidentally, I'm gonna do my tight end

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Speaker 1: list probably today. Those tents will be tough to come

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Speaker 1: up with, but Ebron is gonna be on it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the question is, is this friar mouth cracket? No rookies allowed,

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Speaker 1: No rookies allowed. Okay, that was my rule because I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's fair. It is, at least I think

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Speaker 1: you think you're right. You're right because we did that

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Speaker 1: with nausea. Harris, where where do we think he falls

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Speaker 1: into that list? Where do we think the rookie receivers

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Speaker 1: fall into this list? I don't know. If they do,

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Speaker 1: Chase would wow, it's Chase better than Deante Johnson. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I know Harris is better than most are.

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Speaker 1: That's the difference in the depth of the mean you

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Speaker 1: get to the end of this list, the twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Is he better than Sutton? Yeah? Better than a b

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Speaker 1: right now, you know, I mean, I know some people

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Speaker 1: probably don't think a B belongs whereas we got you know,

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Speaker 1: we got down to like the where we have top ten.

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Speaker 1: I think with mcnaji Harris and you're like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's probably better than that guy. You know, Like I

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Speaker 1: bet if I if I did include rookies, which I

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Speaker 1: don't think you should, that was my rule, even not

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Speaker 1: seeing Pits, I would have him six. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, I think he's better than Koseki

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Speaker 1: or Iran or guys I know would be on that list.

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Speaker 1: But tight ends aren't gonna be easy. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put one. I know the top two are

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Speaker 1: gonna be, but I'm not sure they're gonna finding twenty

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Speaker 1: five tight ends in the league is like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: like there's no non jack. You know, I'm not putting Herndon.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of things. Some of these guys are

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Speaker 1: gonna be pure blockers. Yeah, I know, I'm not looking

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Speaker 1: forward to the list, but uncover some fun things too

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Speaker 1: while we do it. Yeah, but the way guy, I mean,

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Speaker 1: a guy like Friarmouth should be on that list next year, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: or at least he's he's in consideration right at least

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Speaker 1: two years from now he should be on that list.

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Speaker 1: It's not a real hard list of crack no no,

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Speaker 1: I agree, but that's gonna do it for this segment.

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Speaker 1: So for my partner Matt Williamson for Jacob rerect here

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Speaker 1: on site keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 1: We want to thank you for listening to this edition

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Speaker 1: of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio