Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Bobby Cast from Bobby's House,
Speaker 1: from Bobby's Mouth. Bobby will join us soon with special
Speaker 1: guests Trainer Ofmad five Once and now clap your hands
Speaker 1: for Bobby Bones. Thank you, wow, thank you make so
Speaker 1: nice today. Thank you very much in the room today
Speaker 1: producing Mike do what I might and also in the
Speaker 1: room today Trainer Rama. Also no non stagna was going on.
Speaker 1: So here's what happened today as we record the Bobby
Speaker 1: Cast Episode two, as that there's a major flood in
Speaker 1: my house yesterday. If you're the radio show, I talked
Speaker 1: about it a bit where I came home and I
Speaker 1: couldn't drive all the way to my house because there
Speaker 1: were fire trucks everywhere. And when you see fire trucks,
Speaker 1: you never really assume it's at your place. You always
Speaker 1: assume it's at a place near you. And so especially
Speaker 1: living downtown, there are so many places that could have
Speaker 1: had a fire or something could have went wrong. Of course,
Speaker 1: it's not my place that's being flooded. I mean, of
Speaker 1: all the places, it's not my place that has a
Speaker 1: fire is being flooded. And I get there and it's
Speaker 1: my place, and it wasn't me who did it. My
Speaker 1: neighbor who's doing construction banging on pipes, busted a pipe,
Speaker 1: flooded all the way down through many floors. Luckily I'm
Speaker 1: on the top floor and it came through the side
Speaker 1: of mine. So and I'll tell you what's happening there
Speaker 1: in a minute. But I just talked to some of
Speaker 1: the guys. One of the guys lost like a priceless
Speaker 1: guitar to him, like his stuff is destroyed. Waters and
Speaker 1: everybody's floors and most of us have wood floors, and
Speaker 1: there's water underneath all the wood and it's starting to
Speaker 1: bubble and listen, it's not the end of the world.
Speaker 1: But the wall is a little bit annoying right now
Speaker 1: because they're like, hey, we have to get started on
Speaker 1: your place immediately if it can be saved. So it's
Speaker 1: happening right now as we do this. Episode two is
Speaker 1: that there's a team of people that have decided to
Speaker 1: move into my bedroom and they put the humidifiers and
Speaker 1: fans and Matt's and they put it up against a wall.
Speaker 1: Hopefully I don't have to lose a wall. Hopefully I
Speaker 1: don't have to lose the floor. The floor is already
Speaker 1: starting to come up a bit, and so I was like, oh, great,
Speaker 1: so it's gonna take about an hour or so. And
Speaker 1: they were like, but that's gonna take a week, and
Speaker 1: I'm like a week, Like how this is probably be
Speaker 1: real quiet though, Like like the fan that when you
Speaker 1: go to sleep, it's like and you know you got
Speaker 1: sleeping because you get that fan in the background. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's a very student I'm like, I can do
Speaker 1: that for a bit. I mean, I'll still watch Nick
Speaker 1: and nine, but I have that fan, that box fan,
Speaker 1: like I just have to kill And so they're like, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be very loud. I'm like, well that's not good.
Speaker 1: I said, well, what if I go upstairs because I
Speaker 1: have bedrooms above that bedroom? And they say it's gonna
Speaker 1: be so loud it's gonna affect those bedrooms too. So
Speaker 1: then I'm not supposed to enter my bedroom for a week, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't leave my bedroom at my house,
Speaker 1: so it's basically cutting off my house. I can't sleep
Speaker 1: in the bedrooms upstairs for now. I'm going to try
Speaker 1: to sleep on the couch in the living room, which
Speaker 1: probably isn't going to work either. So in the end
Speaker 1: it will probably moved to a hotel for a week.
Speaker 1: You can never leave your bedroom. I don't leave my bedroom.
Speaker 1: I thought, I come here and here and you'll be like,
Speaker 1: I might see you one hour the whole weekend and
Speaker 1: you'd be like, in your bedroom, Hey Bobby, Hey Bobby,
Speaker 1: no answer. He must be sleep. But he's not sleep.
Speaker 1: He's just on the computer doing work. That's not bedroom.
Speaker 1: That's not work. Hole. I don't need a place. It's
Speaker 1: any bigger than a tiny hotel room, Like I really
Speaker 1: don't need, didn't needything big. I believe it. And so anyway,
Speaker 1: that's Batman. That's what we're going through right now. Is
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do with my life for the
Speaker 1: next week? Uh So, I mean that's it. I got
Speaker 1: text this morning from Ahmad because as soon as the
Speaker 1: show is over, I came home and try to get
Speaker 1: a little bit of sleep because I've been out for
Speaker 1: the past a couple of days dealing with these kind
Speaker 1: of issues, and they wake up and them. I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you love me in and outside right right, I'm sitting outside.
Speaker 1: I'm just wanting to get in the house. But if
Speaker 1: you're not there, I can just chill on the on
Speaker 1: the porch over there and watch some game of Thrones.
Speaker 1: What time did you get to my placebably like okay,
Speaker 1: So Mike didn't get back over until win like ken,
Speaker 1: so you for about an hour and a half. You
Speaker 1: but the porch is inside, by the way, in air conditioned. Luckily,
Speaker 1: somebody was downstairs and it was like, all that black
Speaker 1: dude is trying to get in the building. That's cool.
Speaker 1: And I was like, cheese, you know what's up. He's
Speaker 1: like cheeze, smiling. I had to show him Parley White. Yeah. Right.
Speaker 1: So he was like, you're trying to come in. I
Speaker 1: was like yeah, he could looked at me a little
Speaker 1: bit and I said, all right, thanks man. He let
Speaker 1: me in, So you got in. Got a one point?
Speaker 1: Did anything happened with you being black? Like why would
Speaker 1: that we brought up in this? How about you just
Speaker 1: a dude? Well, he looked at me like I was black?
Speaker 1: But how do you know that? How do you know
Speaker 1: he looked at you like you were black? Because he
Speaker 1: was like you know how when you get the squeenny eye. Know,
Speaker 1: I don't know that because some people you look at
Speaker 1: and you like real bright eye, Like why dine and
Speaker 1: you're like, Oh, that's a cool dude. Then he looked
Speaker 1: at me like, oh, he kind of suspicious. Maybe anyone
Speaker 1: trying to get into a place that they don't belong
Speaker 1: and I have the codes for regardless of race, you go,
Speaker 1: I wonder what their motivation is to get into this building.
Speaker 1: Because someone trying to walk up into the radio station,
Speaker 1: regardless black, white, hispanic, like I'm trying to get in,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, m squinny eyes. So I don't know
Speaker 1: that it was you being black. Maybe that's where I
Speaker 1: took it in my brain. Don't here he's here. We're
Speaker 1: playing a show tonight. We're playing, uh the Raging Idiots
Speaker 1: are playing something called Guitarbecue. And by the time you
Speaker 1: hear this, it'll probably already be over. But we're playing Guitarbecque,
Speaker 1: which is we weren't supposed to do the show to
Speaker 1: begin with, like it was it's a big charity show.
Speaker 1: On the reason we did finally get involved is because
Speaker 1: of the charity. Is because St. Jude and we you know,
Speaker 1: love Saint Jude, do so much for them, but Guitarbecue happens,
Speaker 1: and so they've got a lot of artists that are
Speaker 1: playing the show, and it's it's kind of weird on
Speaker 1: a bunch of levels. First of all, we're like Sandwich
Speaker 1: dry in the middle of a bunch of great artists.
Speaker 1: We're not a great artist group, Like we're just ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I don't think we are that great. But people have fun, right,
Speaker 1: But this is a show where you're going to be
Speaker 1: surrounded by really great artists. And it's not like they
Speaker 1: put us up front. You know, they put you know,
Speaker 1: new people up front, like Chris Lane. He's got number
Speaker 1: one hit right now, he's the first. Brandy Clark really good.
Speaker 1: John Party have a number one song next week, had
Speaker 1: over Boots. It's third. Then we go after John Party,
Speaker 1: so we'll be fourth, only followed by Dustin Lynch and
Speaker 1: Kit More and so everybody's playing for thirty minutes and
Speaker 1: it's like we come out. We're not gonna try to
Speaker 1: win vocalists. These guys can't really sing, so we're just
Speaker 1: gonna go nuts. But we're opening for them, though it's
Speaker 1: not really open. If anything, we have four people playing
Speaker 1: before us. I mean, if anything, everybody's opening for Kip,
Speaker 1: but I mean it keeps not the strongest headliner for
Speaker 1: something like this, right, because because the place is big,
Speaker 1: So then you feel like people will be looking at
Speaker 1: us like we less talented. Oh no, no, for sure
Speaker 1: less talented, but we gotta be super crazy, Like that's
Speaker 1: the point we gotta make up for Like when we
Speaker 1: do raging, it is shows people love them because then
Speaker 1: people know it would expect um. So we we're only
Speaker 1: playing thirty minutes too, so about them. We were just
Speaker 1: getting into our groove. We gotta get all stage you, right,
Speaker 1: So what song do we start with? Though? Like that's
Speaker 1: the question that I've been going to because some people
Speaker 1: will be like, who, why why do people even playing?
Speaker 1: I mean you might as well hit them with the
Speaker 1: Starbucks at the beginning. I can't start with that because
Speaker 1: we all need our instruments to start, like we need
Speaker 1: to play and do you want to and everybody else's
Speaker 1: do you know if we're gonna say we're not gonna
Speaker 1: take yourself seriously, then we should start with a cover
Speaker 1: because nobody likes to do covers because everyone thinks it's uh,
Speaker 1: who wants to do a cover? Because I'm original? So
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like we start with Beastie Boys and
Speaker 1: just freak everybody out oh, I mean that would be
Speaker 1: always a good star based two boys you gotta fight
Speaker 1: go Beastie Boys. Then when I grow up, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that would would hit them hard because they get all
Speaker 1: hype and then they'll be like, I heard what the
Speaker 1: raging Nidia is talking about, because we play Beastie Boys anymore,
Speaker 1: nobody but everybody's still rock the Beasti Boys though they
Speaker 1: still know it. So right now I'm leaning towards that
Speaker 1: Beastie Boys. Then when I grow up, then Devil went
Speaker 1: down to Georgia when nat Lee stove Ball. Then we
Speaker 1: do a thing like Pentatonics. It's called the Panasonics. It's
Speaker 1: like the bad version of Pentatonics where we go all
Speaker 1: like a all of we throw that at him, where
Speaker 1: we make it the face like vocals up with our whole,
Speaker 1: like voices like instruments. Yeah, let's acapella, no instruments. Boom
Speaker 1: boom boom doom bood do do do but like that
Speaker 1: boat do your part boat the boat at the boat
Speaker 1: boat boat the boat at the boat to boat bo
Speaker 1: boat boat your partner A little bit bot, I got
Speaker 1: a warmm well over down, don't really digs on me?
Speaker 1: Who yeah, I got a warm up. Well over down,
Speaker 1: she really digs on me. Who yeah, you really take
Speaker 1: me money? Okay? Cool, So that's the whole thing. Now
Speaker 1: looks like seven of us doing it and we're all
Speaker 1: making and my part on you, now my part, she
Speaker 1: really digs on me. Don't you really digs on me?
Speaker 1: I like that hard of it and she really digs
Speaker 1: on me. She really digs on me. Say, we're playing
Speaker 1: that tonight, okay, uming with that little penis on it.
Speaker 1: Then we'll do Starbucks and then we'll probably do it.
Speaker 1: Every day is a good day. We'll probably do all right.
Speaker 1: So that's tonight and it's what we weren't gonna play
Speaker 1: the show. You're gonna have with that purple rain too.
Speaker 1: I don't think have time. No, we have thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: We'll see that again. We only have thirty minutes, right,
Speaker 1: And as long as Linda gets a song, Natalie gets
Speaker 1: a song, Regge, you get to get a couple of songs,
Speaker 1: that's it. That's over right, So you don't want everybody? Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: we are planning this event tonight. And we got added
Speaker 1: kind of lake because they needed to sell tickets. I
Speaker 1: don't think tickets on super great. They were like, hey,
Speaker 1: we come on, so what why do you give me
Speaker 1: a side eye? Damn, They're doing okay. I think I
Speaker 1: just think the venue is a little too big. I
Speaker 1: think they got my grandmoa. You said the eyes are
Speaker 1: bigger than their belly. Yeah, okay, and so but I
Speaker 1: think they're doing pretty good now. They we don't when
Speaker 1: they put up that when they put up that bat sign,
Speaker 1: that Bobby signs. I don't know if that's the case.
Speaker 1: I think it help. I think I think that I
Speaker 1: think it helped. Our people are just so loyal to us,
Speaker 1: like so let us are people are so loyal to us.
Speaker 1: I don't even know why, but like we played in
Speaker 1: four wayn and we we played for two hours because
Speaker 1: people come on the play show, we just take our
Speaker 1: phones out and start learning songs as we go. If
Speaker 1: it wasn't for Saint Jude, and if it wasn't like
Speaker 1: our people are just so loyal to us. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I know, people buy tickets as soon as
Speaker 1: we go up because it's for a good cause. We're
Speaker 1: happy to be involved. But it's just weird being surrounded
Speaker 1: by all the real artists because we don't get sider
Speaker 1: ourselves like a legitimate music will act. We're more of
Speaker 1: an entertainment show, right, But isn't it all about entertainment,
Speaker 1: but most entertainment because you're a good musical act. Like
Speaker 1: I considered myself the Puffy of the Raging Idiots. Take that.
Speaker 1: Take that, like, I bring together all the good talent
Speaker 1: because I don't think I have what they called lead singer?
Speaker 1: Does he? I don't have to sing lead singer all time?
Speaker 1: But Puffy did put out a bomb album though, no way,
Speaker 1: and so did I. Right right, But but once everybody
Speaker 1: gets up there, I don't care who sings, right, I
Speaker 1: might sing a third of the songs. I feel you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I witnessed, I saw it. It's been weird
Speaker 1: for Ahmad because of my We're just coming to hang
Speaker 1: out on the road with us for four or five shows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: more than that. Even he would just he would just
Speaker 1: fly in and just hang out and surprise you guys.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I was coming to shows and be like what's up?
Speaker 1: Like what wait, We're in Washington, d C. Why are
Speaker 1: you here? Just come to hang out? And so I
Speaker 1: was like, hey, put up on microphone just sing background,
Speaker 1: and he was like really, yeah, I just think you
Speaker 1: know who at the Rhyman Actually, yeah, the first one,
Speaker 1: that's right. We played this hold that ryme. I was like, hey, well,
Speaker 1: I know you were saying before, but just get me
Speaker 1: athing back for us. That's how we do anything. And
Speaker 1: he's like all right, and you know it's like baby
Speaker 1: I love you. Wait, just you know, just give a
Speaker 1: little bit of something like baby I love now. I
Speaker 1: was like part of the show, like you might as
Speaker 1: well be on the album cover man all I was like,
Speaker 1: you want me to go on this legendary country stage
Speaker 1: and dance and singing Starbucks with you hip hop? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's weird. I never thought I would be doing that
Speaker 1: strange Starbucks. I'll be feeling cup on the Rhyman stage.
Speaker 1: I'll be feeling one more cut. So we're playing tonight,
Speaker 1: we are. I got a lot of message after the
Speaker 1: first Bobby cast, like, hey, you didn't mention na Um
Speaker 1: when I was talking about everybody on the show. And
Speaker 1: I guess a lot of that comes from we were
Speaker 1: talking about people that got written about in the book
Speaker 1: and people that didn't. And Carlos who used to work
Speaker 1: on the show doesn't work on the show anymore, and
Speaker 1: what happened with that, and Noddy got left out of
Speaker 1: last week because she kind of didn't fit in that conversation. Oddly,
Speaker 1: we talk about we talked about them, about Carlos right now,
Speaker 1: I talked about last week. Wow, what we talk about.
Speaker 1: You should listen to the Bobby Cast Episode one. All
Speaker 1: I said was it's tough to be a boss and
Speaker 1: a friend at the same time. Bobby realness. It was yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: because people asked about it, and I've answered the question
Speaker 1: ten times. And first people were like, why didn't you
Speaker 1: write about Carlos in the book? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't write about anybody that didn't make the move
Speaker 1: in the book, Like I gotna put Erica in the book,
Speaker 1: and I'm put Noda in the book. He's part of
Speaker 1: the show. Now, I'd put Carlos in the book. And
Speaker 1: then people are like, what happened with Carlos? And I
Speaker 1: was like, basically, Carlos was a really great friend and
Speaker 1: a good worker, but Ray simply outworked him over the
Speaker 1: period of a year a year and a half and
Speaker 1: I had to choose one person to move there was
Speaker 1: better for the entire show, Like who the better at
Speaker 1: that job was? And I had to choose Ray, and
Speaker 1: it was really hard because I didn't know Ray, and
Speaker 1: Ray wasn't like a really close friend. He had just
Speaker 1: been an intern, but he was dominant at his job,
Speaker 1: and so for the best interest of the show, I
Speaker 1: had to bring in the best person. And so Ray
Speaker 1: came and Carlos stayed and kept a job in Austin.
Speaker 1: And so then I said, how Carlos left and might
Speaker 1: d to Carlos's job, and the plan was always hopefully
Speaker 1: eventually bring Carlos to Nashville if we could find a
Speaker 1: spot for him. Well, Carlos left and Mike de goes
Speaker 1: and then we do end up finding a spot we
Speaker 1: move might d over to Nashville. Felt that so it
Speaker 1: was just, I mean the honest part, like Carl's a
Speaker 1: really good dude, but he didn't really have that like
Speaker 1: big ambition to go further or what. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's in his heart or his head, but I know
Speaker 1: Ray his nuts. And Ray will like work a hundred
Speaker 1: hours straight and as an intern, rageous outworked everybody and
Speaker 1: you should be rewarded for that, especially when everyone else
Speaker 1: is being affected like what Ray does affects Amy Lunchbox
Speaker 1: everybody's pay checks, and you just have to put the
Speaker 1: best people in the best situations. And so that that's
Speaker 1: what I explained last week. Okay, I had never heard that. Okay,
Speaker 1: that Bobby Catt getting real y'all getting that real nous. Well,
Speaker 1: just we don't get to talk as long form during
Speaker 1: the morning joke because we gotta play a song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then we got to a commercial. And most people don't
Speaker 1: care about Carlos if they're not Austin or what you're
Speaker 1: talking because all that we have a hundred cities now
Speaker 1: they don't even know who that is. But with the
Speaker 1: with the podcast, you can talk about whatever you want.
Speaker 1: If somebody want to hear, they just turn it off.
Speaker 1: It's not like their ratings or anything that makes sense.
Speaker 1: But no, I got I mean nothing. I have not
Speaker 1: zero negative things to say about Carlos. It was a
Speaker 1: good friend because back in Austin we used to go hard.
Speaker 1: But it was just sometimes it sucks being a boss
Speaker 1: and a friend because you have to tell your friends
Speaker 1: tough things. Sometimes you think you take it personal. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: why you say, I mean, that's the normal thing to do,
Speaker 1: It's the human thing to do. It's harder to not
Speaker 1: take it personally when someone who's in your life personally
Speaker 1: is telling it to you. And it was like, it's like,
Speaker 1: you're not getting fired, but the show is moving to
Speaker 1: Nashville and you're gonna stay and produced here, no pay cut,
Speaker 1: nothing like that. But Ray has taken a spot and
Speaker 1: here's why. And it was it sucked. And if I
Speaker 1: was a boss that wasn't friends with everyone, it would
Speaker 1: have been much different. I just gonna said, abc D,
Speaker 1: here's your job, We're out. But it wasn't. It was tough.
Speaker 1: Had he tried to reach out to you after that, nah,
Speaker 1: not really did tweet sometimes some people tweet him, but
Speaker 1: and I just felt like it wasn't an issue to
Speaker 1: bring up. I don't want to bring it up and
Speaker 1: put his business out there, so I just didn't. I
Speaker 1: didn't say anything in respect to him. But then he
Speaker 1: was tweeting about it. I was like, I think I
Speaker 1: saw a couple of those tweets too. Yeah, So it's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to bring it up, I'll
Speaker 1: at least address it. And I have a few times,
Speaker 1: like on Facebook live and stuff, and never on the
Speaker 1: radio radio radio, because again I still think that it's
Speaker 1: a great dude, But it would have been hard to
Speaker 1: not take it personally if one of your friends says, hey,
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna stay here and we all have
Speaker 1: to go, and because this person has done But again,
Speaker 1: look at Ray. What if you're Ray and you're working
Speaker 1: your brains out and you've worked for a year for free,
Speaker 1: and you've dominated and done three times the work as
Speaker 1: whomever else any producer there, and you didn't get picked
Speaker 1: to go like he just simply worked his way into
Speaker 1: where he is now. Right, So uh yeah, Like I said,
Speaker 1: it's hard to be a boss and a friend. And
Speaker 1: most of the time I just get to be the friend.
Speaker 1: Percent of the time I get to be the friend.
Speaker 1: Fifteen percent of the time, it's tough on I have
Speaker 1: to pull somebody in the room and say this isn't working,
Speaker 1: you can't do this, or I guess we talked last
Speaker 1: the show cast. Um that's the guy work in the
Speaker 1: my bedroom right now. If I'm yelling in the background,
Speaker 1: um is that? Um, I don't even know. Most of
Speaker 1: the time is trying to be just a boss and
Speaker 1: a friend. But let me ask you this, So being
Speaker 1: a boss plus a friend, how do you even direct
Speaker 1: people without offending people. You can't worry about it. There's
Speaker 1: just a line, and Amy is the absolute best at
Speaker 1: accepting that line. And Amy's my best friend on the show.
Speaker 1: Eddie's climbing up there because we're together so much, but
Speaker 1: but Amy's probably I'm close. It's close between those two.
Speaker 1: It's hard to even not just to say it's straight,
Speaker 1: because I mean, I've been so close for so long,
Speaker 1: but Eddie and I've just been so much time together. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just okay, we're great friends. But I also have
Speaker 1: to run a company in the company of our morning
Speaker 1: show on a hundred affiliates that builds a bunch of
Speaker 1: the money for we have to make a revenue. And
Speaker 1: you know, it's all funny games, but you have to
Speaker 1: understand when I have to be the boss, it's I
Speaker 1: have to be the boss. And if it's if you're
Speaker 1: coming in, and Amy's great about going, Okay, you can't
Speaker 1: do this anymore. You know you can't do this. Then
Speaker 1: we get researching and it'll say these segments aren't working
Speaker 1: that well. And she's great about the separator of the two.
Speaker 1: Everybody else has problems. Sometimes he goes like, how can
Speaker 1: you be my friend? And then say you gotta stop
Speaker 1: doing this because but people come to me like Rod,
Speaker 1: my boss is a good friend, but there's a there's
Speaker 1: friend time, and I know there's boss time where he
Speaker 1: has to put the boss hat on and be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is not good, so fix it. And I'm like
Speaker 1: got it, Like I understand it. But I don't think
Speaker 1: that I expect anything from any single person on my
Speaker 1: staff that I don't expect from myself. Double you expect
Speaker 1: a laugh from yourself, like I'm for sure. Leader by example?
Speaker 1: Do you do you feel like that you explain a
Speaker 1: lot of things that you want to happen to your
Speaker 1: friends as of all. Sometimes I feel like sometimes I
Speaker 1: want them to find their own groove and if they
Speaker 1: can't find their group naturally, because everything's natural because nobody's
Speaker 1: radio people, not ever as the radio people, so it's
Speaker 1: not like, hey, you need to do this in a
Speaker 1: radio way. Sometimes I like them to find their own
Speaker 1: way they don't even know they could find. I feel
Speaker 1: that's what you do. Yeah, Everybody kind of finds their
Speaker 1: path and you go off of that. And I like
Speaker 1: to find what people are good at and then build
Speaker 1: the roads for them because I know what Amy's good
Speaker 1: at and I know where she comes from the heart,
Speaker 1: so I try to put her in those spots where
Speaker 1: she's showing that she is great at and put her
Speaker 1: situations to thrive, you know. Same with lunch Box, same
Speaker 1: with Eddie. And there are places where they go on
Speaker 1: places where it's not good, and so I just try
Speaker 1: to keep them from there, trying to put people in
Speaker 1: the best situations for those hard times when like bosses
Speaker 1: have to like tell somebody exactly what they want, and
Speaker 1: bosses have to like direct them and inspire them, like
Speaker 1: do you feel like you're good at that? Or no?
Speaker 1: Very occasionally, because if you do it too much, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter anymore. You can only inspire so many times
Speaker 1: before it just becomes another allow of talk. It's like
Speaker 1: getting angry someone yells at you all the time, there's
Speaker 1: another day yelling. But if someone yells at you once
Speaker 1: a year, you're like, holy God, what did I do?
Speaker 1: All right? Like what did I do? So it's that
Speaker 1: you just have to choose your emotions very carefully because
Speaker 1: with me, period of my life, it's never too high,
Speaker 1: never too low. Things are never that great, things never
Speaker 1: that bad. As far as work goes, never too good,
Speaker 1: never too bad. If you can maintain that middle, you're
Speaker 1: always gonna be consistent. Consistency is a key. So that's
Speaker 1: the thing. I like people to find their own place
Speaker 1: and then we build from that. And when it's time
Speaker 1: to inspire, and I'm talking about once twice a year,
Speaker 1: if we have one of those big talks, it's it's
Speaker 1: and it's almost time to have another one of those.
Speaker 1: And it's always when it's kind of a reset for
Speaker 1: the show. You're getting back into it, when school starts
Speaker 1: and you know, you have ratings happening and um or
Speaker 1: you're going away for the summer, you know. But if
Speaker 1: you do it, if you inspire every day, it's just
Speaker 1: more words, just more emotional words, and just go in
Speaker 1: and out the other. I don't impact, like I don't
Speaker 1: ever get angry, Mike. Do I ever get angry? But
Speaker 1: when I do, like people like WHOA, because I don't,
Speaker 1: because I don't get angry, because I'm never too high,
Speaker 1: never too low. So I lead by example and then
Speaker 1: now when it needs to be done, it's done. Like
Speaker 1: like I've had talks, Mike, and individually more than you,
Speaker 1: I don't really get everybody into a room, because as
Speaker 1: a boss you have to look at people differently and
Speaker 1: realize their temperaments are different, and their emotions are different,
Speaker 1: and they take positive and constructive criticism differently. So everybody
Speaker 1: gets talked to separately, like if we have talks, and
Speaker 1: so it's, uh, that's how it is. I don't put
Speaker 1: everybody in a gymnasium and get on the microphone like
Speaker 1: give me give I felt that. But they're so many
Speaker 1: different managerial styles. I just decided that when I was
Speaker 1: gonna put together a group of people, not a group
Speaker 1: of radio people. And people are all different. You have
Speaker 1: to handle people different, Dan, that's gotta be tough as
Speaker 1: a friend and a boss. It's the it's the biggest
Speaker 1: struggle of the show of being a friend and a
Speaker 1: boss because I can't bring someone in. It's not my friend,
Speaker 1: Like nobody comes through the walls. It's not my friend.
Speaker 1: And people asked by Nata, which is where we were?
Speaker 1: Um the thing when Nada, I didn't know Nada. I
Speaker 1: never hired Nada. We were here for a year. I
Speaker 1: still didn't hire Nada. But what happened and not as
Speaker 1: my friend, just like Ray did not showed up on
Speaker 1: her very first day, I was like, hey, I'm here
Speaker 1: to help. She had never been on the radio. She
Speaker 1: had only done digital, like worked on the web stuff, right,
Speaker 1: like built web graphics and stuff. And so she's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I might help web graphics. You guys are a new show.
Speaker 1: So she would come in the morning, and she's coming
Speaker 1: again the next morning. Did she come in the next
Speaker 1: morning like I can't pay you, like we don't have
Speaker 1: a budget. She would do it for free for a
Speaker 1: year and three months a year and three months now
Speaker 1: came in and she came in every day for free,
Speaker 1: and then only that did the rest of her job
Speaker 1: all day long, like she had a real job and
Speaker 1: that building doing digital. What was she trying to prove?
Speaker 1: Not think she was just wanted to She enjoyed being
Speaker 1: a part of the show. Wanted to be a part
Speaker 1: of the show. After she was there for like a
Speaker 1: month and she's like, this is a great environment and
Speaker 1: I can do it. And I realized her importance and
Speaker 1: how good she was. So that's where that's what happened.
Speaker 1: So she worked for over a year and then how
Speaker 1: do I not go to bad for somebody that isn't
Speaker 1: And another thing is too I might say this here,
Speaker 1: I've taken money from my pay my contract and pass
Speaker 1: it out to our show. Because only times whenever there
Speaker 1: aren't raises, like on our level of the company, Like
Speaker 1: it's like we're not there are no raises, right, there's
Speaker 1: no you know whatever, the fiscical coal I don't even
Speaker 1: know what's happening, but like we don't know this. And
Speaker 1: in contracts, you signed contracts and that's just what you get.
Speaker 1: You don't get raises after you signed a contract, like
Speaker 1: if I was signed a contract for five years, unless
Speaker 1: the raisors are built in, you don't get a raise
Speaker 1: because you just signed a contract. And when I signed
Speaker 1: a contract, my first one is a five year contract
Speaker 1: and then a few years into that. But I don't
Speaker 1: go and ask for a raise inside of a contract
Speaker 1: because I've already signed a contract and that tells me
Speaker 1: what my raisors is going to be already, So I
Speaker 1: don't go to them and go, you know, I signed
Speaker 1: this deal, but is there any way maybe you break
Speaker 1: me off flow extra, That's not how it works. But
Speaker 1: what I've been able to do is take my money
Speaker 1: that I've been paid and if people are deserving taking
Speaker 1: and go cut it off of mine and put it
Speaker 1: into them. How do you feel like they're deserving? How
Speaker 1: do you tell? How do you how do you say?
Speaker 1: Do you tell it? Do you do? You divvy it
Speaker 1: up all the same time. If you're given one person
Speaker 1: a raise, you give everybody a raise? Are you just
Speaker 1: because I don't think the world like that? Like I
Speaker 1: think never like after you know, this is Ray's first
Speaker 1: ever radio job. He was an internal til he moved here,
Speaker 1: and he was getting paid nothing. It was this first
Speaker 1: ever job and he was coming in as the audio
Speaker 1: producer and he was getting paid very very little. And
Speaker 1: he signed contract because you have signed contract, meaning so
Speaker 1: you don't run off to another radio station. And so
Speaker 1: he signed a contract and he wasn't gonna paid it.
Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, you've deserved. You deserve
Speaker 1: more than your contract right now. So I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: and some of my money that's my salary, and give
Speaker 1: it to you. And I've done that pretty much everybody
Speaker 1: on the show. If they're if, I feel like they've
Speaker 1: worked into it. But I can tell you the truth
Speaker 1: is I signed a contract when I moved here, and
Speaker 1: I outperformed my contract, according to my boss, is pretty quick,
Speaker 1: and they were like, Okay, rip it up, new deal,
Speaker 1: and I signed a new deal they let me. So
Speaker 1: I think people. I always believe in paying people what
Speaker 1: they're worth, and sometimes over what they're worth if in
Speaker 1: the long term, like it makes them feel respected and
Speaker 1: it keeps them working harder. So I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like this is like business fonsophy that could
Speaker 1: probably prove wrong in ten different points, but it's how
Speaker 1: we worked. But I never got tired of the morning show.
Speaker 1: It's like I never went to someone and said, hey,
Speaker 1: you teach me how to do the morning show. I
Speaker 1: started doing it. So I don't know anything other than
Speaker 1: what I know, and my show doesn't anything other than
Speaker 1: what they know and what I know. So it's not
Speaker 1: like we have and I say this in the way
Speaker 1: of that it's not like we don't know a lot
Speaker 1: of things because we won't haven't been exposed a lot
Speaker 1: of things. You know, there's some great morning shows out there,
Speaker 1: like Olvis Duran who worked with some great morning show people.
Speaker 1: Uh like Charlotagne worked with Wendy Williams, so she was
Speaker 1: doing morning like he learned things from these people. I
Speaker 1: don't crap. And then sometimes why the show comes off
Speaker 1: is really rough and uh not polished, but at the
Speaker 1: same time that that's what makes us different as well.
Speaker 1: It's stay done. That makes sense. I know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about, because sometimes I'm like, that don't sound like
Speaker 1: Charlottemagne breakfast club type of thing to say, But well
Speaker 1: we're not Charlotte Magne breakfast Club of course, and not
Speaker 1: they hip how your country? And it's weird that Charlottagne
Speaker 1: are probably the closest to of all the talent and
Speaker 1: all the I heart like the hip hop and the
Speaker 1: country show. We go on each other's shows. Actually, I
Speaker 1: didn't see that interview when you was on there. They
Speaker 1: was trying to kill you about saying what's up to
Speaker 1: what's her name? And they were trying to grow me
Speaker 1: on anything. But you can't grow me like I just
Speaker 1: say what I feel like. Dean Sanders said to me,
Speaker 1: say what do you see? That's all you can do.
Speaker 1: If you always just say we just see them, you
Speaker 1: have to about Lyine because you've always just said what
Speaker 1: you know. You can't cut in the life. You're always
Speaker 1: tell them what you see? Right. They got a little
Speaker 1: bit more fresh Bobby there. They Bobby had the hat
Speaker 1: sideways on that he had a little slang, a little
Speaker 1: sl yeah, yeah, Bobby bones you. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: true that you know. I think this is like when
Speaker 1: you thought the guy thought you were a black so
Speaker 1: they wouldn't let you in the building the interview when
Speaker 1: it was a good interview. But I will say this
Speaker 1: about my hat when I wear a little bit sideways.
Speaker 1: Do you know why wear my hat sideways because Eminem
Speaker 1: does it? No, that's not why, okay about Eminem. When
Speaker 1: I have my big black glasses on, I'm sorry, my
Speaker 1: big darker glasses on. Now, when my big black glasses,
Speaker 1: I can't wear a normal hat down because it hits
Speaker 1: the glasses. So I gotta turn it just a bit
Speaker 1: so I can at least pull it down to normal
Speaker 1: hat level. So I don't do that when I'm wearing
Speaker 1: like these small glasses, okay, And that's why were my
Speaker 1: hat backward a lot of times if I'm on stage
Speaker 1: with those big glasses, so I don't look like I'm
Speaker 1: trying to the Eminem on stage. So it's really just
Speaker 1: I wear big glasses. Everybody always wants to sign rolls
Speaker 1: to people what they're trying to do. It's not even
Speaker 1: the case. I was just saying, just so happen. When
Speaker 1: I saw him on Charlotte Main his hat was down
Speaker 1: because I had big glasses on. But I had seen
Speaker 1: you a lot of times before you went on Charlotte Magne,
Speaker 1: and I never saw your hat download like jay Z.
Speaker 1: It wasn't download like jay Z. Though a little back
Speaker 1: to the side, a little bit lower than it normally.
Speaker 1: Was Okay, whatever you want to think. Okay, that was
Speaker 1: a fun interview, and they were places that you know,
Speaker 1: no interviewers ever taken me. I liked it. It was fun.
Speaker 1: You should check it out of y'all. Don't hear that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not a breakfast clothed website. And then, uh, but y'all,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think I got crazy slang, but
Speaker 1: I do feel like a little bit. It's like when
Speaker 1: I go, like, give an example, I go back home,
Speaker 1: my Southern accent comes out. I already have a Southern accent.
Speaker 1: If I go back to Arkansas and I see my
Speaker 1: family a little bit, talking like this a little more,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just how I talk, just how you know,
Speaker 1: you go back home and you talk like this, it's
Speaker 1: like your eyes your eyes and we get some watch
Speaker 1: powers and you know, to go down. You know, that's
Speaker 1: how I grew up talking only two years of speak pathology,
Speaker 1: I still haven't shaken all my accent, but I lost
Speaker 1: a lot of it because I knew that to be
Speaker 1: on the rady, it would have to be in a
Speaker 1: lot of places. Now, where I grew up, there were
Speaker 1: some white folks, there were some black folks. So I
Speaker 1: felt and I feel the most comfortable around black people,
Speaker 1: like and so just like when I back home, it
Speaker 1: felt kind of like I was back home again, and
Speaker 1: so it was like, Okay, well, I guess I'll just
Speaker 1: kind of slide a bit into my back home accent, Okay,
Speaker 1: because y'all was giving me a hard time when I
Speaker 1: was ordering at a mom a. No, no, no, here's different.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's different. Different because where I grew up,
Speaker 1: I grew up with a lot of black friends. And
Speaker 1: you go up a lot of black friends, you hang
Speaker 1: out with your friends, you start talking like your friends
Speaker 1: a little bit. Now, I didn't do it a lot
Speaker 1: because I was a little white kid. But yeah, you
Speaker 1: were talking to a waiter that was Asian and you
Speaker 1: tell Japanese, I like, okay, yeah, Asia, okay. He said,
Speaker 1: you never lived in Japan and you were trying to
Speaker 1: speak Japanese. So he and he was like what you
Speaker 1: like and I'm I said, I want told me so,
Speaker 1: and I like, all, you can't do that. Yes, no,
Speaker 1: he yes, he did that. And I called Hi out
Speaker 1: on the table and I was like, you can't do that.
Speaker 1: That's not the same thing. Like when I was hanging
Speaker 1: with Searlemagne, Envy and Angela, it was kind of like
Speaker 1: I was back home again. So I think it kind
Speaker 1: of slipped back into how I used to be in
Speaker 1: high school a bit. But that was kind of like
Speaker 1: you was talking like them, so they could talking like them.
Speaker 1: I was talking like I felt comfortable talking. It took
Speaker 1: me back to how I used to probably talk a bit.
Speaker 1: You never talked like you were Japanese. Well yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean my sister she was in the Navy. So I
Speaker 1: went to go visit in Okinawa one time and they
Speaker 1: was talking about that and I was like, it was
Speaker 1: like two months. So I got that agent. I got
Speaker 1: that agents, but it's not the same thing. That the
Speaker 1: same thing. But that's like if I go to like
Speaker 1: a real Mexican restaurant sometimes older in Spanish, you feel
Speaker 1: me just one time for ten days, but the way
Speaker 1: it was like he kind of respected me. No he
Speaker 1: did not, because I got my food first and you
Speaker 1: ordered first. No, no, because I was like, did you
Speaker 1: order first? Did you order first? Order first? But everybody
Speaker 1: didn't even get their food and it was also soup,
Speaker 1: and you got the soup first, which is probably just
Speaker 1: the big bowl of soup. Back there, he poured something
Speaker 1: else in because yeah, no, no, I felt like he
Speaker 1: was like there are times though, when I call an
Speaker 1: Asian restaurant and you want to talk in the accent
Speaker 1: because of the answer, and it's really thick, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to do the accent because I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't better go boy and racist. They're like, I'll do
Speaker 1: it like um um, like curb with the frog as
Speaker 1: curb with frog here. Oh thanks for going for Chinese food.
Speaker 1: I want to be like, oh, like some chicken and
Speaker 1: drug please you so, but just insert whatever accent you're
Speaker 1: calling from, the regardless of its Indian food. But you
Speaker 1: do feel that need. But am I did it so
Speaker 1: blatantly in public? I was stunned and I yelled a lot,
Speaker 1: but it was red. It went wrong with it. Watch
Speaker 1: your face get red, but by my face is brown,
Speaker 1: so you can't really see. No, you know, your face
Speaker 1: definitely got red. But I was saying, why would you
Speaker 1: even say that if I didn't think anything wrong with it?
Speaker 1: That waiter didn't think anything was wrong with it. Now
Speaker 1: the way it was just like it was his first day. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you think that, And so why is it racist
Speaker 1: if you make an accent? I don't think it is.
Speaker 1: But it's like, why even because if one person starts
Speaker 1: going that's racist, it wasn't worth it wasn't worth the joke,
Speaker 1: Like it's just not something. It's like we used to
Speaker 1: do street things all the time, like stunts on the
Speaker 1: streets all the time, and it became if we do
Speaker 1: fifteen stunts and fourteen them were successful and we get
Speaker 1: in bad trouble for one, it wasn't worth it. So
Speaker 1: we just stopped doing them. And so there are things
Speaker 1: that just aren't worth it because if just one time
Speaker 1: someone goes that's a racist, or if someone goes that's dangerous,
Speaker 1: or you get in trouble or you get it's just
Speaker 1: not worth it. So a lot of it's picking you
Speaker 1: to risk spots and something. It's just not worth it,
Speaker 1: Like for me to make that joke on a podcast,
Speaker 1: which is gonna there's no reason for me to make
Speaker 1: that joke on a podcast and put it out there
Speaker 1: for someone to cut up and go listen to him
Speaker 1: being racist. So I just come with the frog, right,
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't think it was a joke. It would
Speaker 1: just be you imitating what you heard, fair enough. But
Speaker 1: it's only takes one person to think that and to
Speaker 1: start saying that you don't want to be called a
Speaker 1: racist and listen, I mean, yeah, you know what I
Speaker 1: have people say I ain't a racist. I wall I
Speaker 1: aint a racist, and so it's just it's just not
Speaker 1: worth it. I never say I'm not a racist, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't say it either. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I never say too, And I'm always
Speaker 1: best friends. I never go I got a black friend.
Speaker 1: People who say that, Yeah, people who say that are
Speaker 1: always like the people are like, right, why you gotta
Speaker 1: highlight the you got a black friend. Why can't you
Speaker 1: just have a friend. Right, But the man does bring
Speaker 1: a lot of self racism on himself. Oh you think so?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure where this is what I see
Speaker 1: in life, though I think you see it in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways that I don't see it. Obviously we're
Speaker 1: from different places, but a little bit, just a little bit,
Speaker 1: like I don't come from a completely white town full
Speaker 1: of all white people where we had classes and we
Speaker 1: just studied about white things. We go to places like
Speaker 1: Alabama University of Alama, and I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: walk outside everyone I love people looking at me, like,
Speaker 1: why is this black guy doing here? I'm like, there
Speaker 1: are ten thousand other black people walking around campus. But
Speaker 1: in mind it's also super ripped up, so they could
Speaker 1: just it's not the fact that he's black. He's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I think they're looking at
Speaker 1: me because they like another person looking at me with
Speaker 1: a different skin color. I'm gonna say Caucasian, and I'll
Speaker 1: be like, why are you gotta be looking at me
Speaker 1: like that? But Bobby, right this, I mean, why are
Speaker 1: you not looking at But why can't they look at you?
Speaker 1: Because you are built like not You're a monster. You're
Speaker 1: like a bodybuilder. If you walk by and you had
Speaker 1: a tanktop on, I would stare at you and I'll
Speaker 1: be going did that. Dudes, cut up and you'll be going,
Speaker 1: just dude, look at me because I'm black. Every two
Speaker 1: different things. That's what I think, right, But you shouldn't.
Speaker 1: Maybe you shouldn't light But I have the same I
Speaker 1: have the same problem, not about race, but probably with
Speaker 1: I think how maybe girls will procee because I think
Speaker 1: every girl's like I this guy already ugly dude, what
Speaker 1: you're saying, But is that really what's happening. Probably not
Speaker 1: all the time. Sometimes, probably are some people probably looking
Speaker 1: at you going when it was black dude. Occasionally probably
Speaker 1: more than okay, well the probably more than not. Girls
Speaker 1: looking like I've never that guy's ugly. I don't know
Speaker 1: about that exactly exactly. I don't know about that. We
Speaker 1: live in America, check mate, check mate. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: there's some similarities there. He's not exactly correct. Well, that's
Speaker 1: all I mean about that. When I talked to him later,
Speaker 1: do you Ahma did not like Charlett Mane for the
Speaker 1: longest time because Charlemaine he was always talking negative and
Speaker 1: that's what he was getting his his following from, like
Speaker 1: a negative conversation about some talking putting people on spots. Right,
Speaker 1: But he was like attacking people, like when he attacked Kanye.
Speaker 1: He want to get a rise out of here. He
Speaker 1: went after Kanye because he felt like nobody goes after Kanye,
Speaker 1: and there were many things he wanted to know, and
Speaker 1: so he just said if I want to know, And
Speaker 1: it wasn't attack, it was just what everybody wanted to
Speaker 1: ask him. You don't go after people you don't get
Speaker 1: You don't go at people to get a rise out
Speaker 1: of him. Charlotte Mane intentionally goes at the I think
Speaker 1: once he sees that he can, people are weak enough
Speaker 1: to get a ride. But listen to me saying that
Speaker 1: talking about Charte man doing this would be so hypocritical,
Speaker 1: because I do. I get rises out of people too.
Speaker 1: You're just something in different ways, different level, different for type. Um.
Speaker 1: But then now, I mean, would you say you're a fan? No,
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't say I was a fan because
Speaker 1: he's your homie, like one of my best friends. Then
Speaker 1: I would be like, and if one of my best
Speaker 1: friends is another best friend, I'm like, okay, they're my friend.
Speaker 1: To a friend of my friend is my friends. So
Speaker 1: that's why I would like I have a picture in
Speaker 1: my hallway of Charlottagne and I together doing a broadcast together,
Speaker 1: because to me, it means a lot, because it's like
Speaker 1: one of the and now we've done each other show
Speaker 1: so many times, and you're not gonna be someone more
Speaker 1: honest in the whole world. It is a period good
Speaker 1: or bad than Charlottagne. Like he's just gonna say how
Speaker 1: he feels all the time at dinner or on the radio,
Speaker 1: and so I respect that, and I think it's kind
Speaker 1: of why we bonded with each other that y'all speak
Speaker 1: on the truth at all times. We try to be
Speaker 1: as authentic as possible all the time, as genuine as possible,
Speaker 1: and we both have I would say weakness is we
Speaker 1: both have areas that we rely on each other for help.
Speaker 1: We call each other. What does he rely on you
Speaker 1: for him? Probably? Uh, I would say, relies the world.
Speaker 1: But hell call Okay, I guess this business thing that
Speaker 1: should handle this because you're a little bit more business
Speaker 1: savvy than he is. Used I wouldn say savvy is
Speaker 1: the word. I think I've just done it. I started
Speaker 1: and had to build my own company from the very beginning,
Speaker 1: and he came up a different way. He came up
Speaker 1: as a side like person. For Wendy got his own
Speaker 1: really good at that, got his own show, you know,
Speaker 1: started show here like I was. I was writing contracts
Speaker 1: at twenty one years old, so I've known how to
Speaker 1: do that stuff by doing it wrong and failing. And
Speaker 1: I can give advice that way, But for me, I'll
Speaker 1: be like listen. UM. An example recently was I did
Speaker 1: an interview and I got some trouble for it, and
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, read this and tell me what
Speaker 1: you think, like where I should have what comes off
Speaker 1: wrong to you? And he read it and was like,
Speaker 1: this is what I probably would have done. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: not you, but just looking at and I looked to
Speaker 1: his opinion for that. So I think we rely on
Speaker 1: to a lot of ways like I looked. I looked
Speaker 1: for him. Whenever i'm it starts to pull, I get
Speaker 1: pulled back from keeping a real Sometimes I like, oh,
Speaker 1: I kind of I just have to be honest all
Speaker 1: the time. And if I feel like something is starting
Speaker 1: to inside of me not feel that way, I'll call
Speaker 1: and be like, let's I'm not feeling something, And he
Speaker 1: gives me that kind of inspiration to be like, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, you just have to be real, because once
Speaker 1: you're not, nobody's ever gonna trust you again. And I
Speaker 1: feel the same way. But sometimes I need that kick
Speaker 1: in the butt. I mean, I was trying to figure
Speaker 1: out so you rely on him for inspirational type stuff.
Speaker 1: I just see we're very similar in many ways, and
Speaker 1: so he'll he'll do something and I'd be like, all right,
Speaker 1: how did you do that? Or I'll do something to
Speaker 1: be like, dang, how did you do that? Now he's
Speaker 1: writing a book about to announce soon, and he called.
Speaker 1: We talked multiple times. Guy, I just went to the
Speaker 1: whole process, and so yeah, we'll we'll talk business. He'll
Speaker 1: call me like, hey, are you thinking about this? And
Speaker 1: then uh, for me, I'll be like, hey, I got
Speaker 1: this artist that I really can't stand, but they got
Speaker 1: a huge record. And then I'm getting pressure to do
Speaker 1: this and everybody wants and he's like, you just listen.
Speaker 1: You geting pressure, but you gotta keep it real, like
Speaker 1: do what's in your heart, regardless of what anybody's saying
Speaker 1: to you, what you're always going to do with I
Speaker 1: feel like percent of the time I do. Sometimes pressure
Speaker 1: from places start pushing on you, even from your own bosses.
Speaker 1: At times pressures. There are pressures because you never get pressure.
Speaker 1: And sometimes he's like, you can't let the pressure get you.
Speaker 1: Don't pressure, you should have it within yourself. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: and and I do that, and I get the reset.
Speaker 1: I think we all need somebody like that we can
Speaker 1: rely on. That makes sense? Yeah, So yeah, at first
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know. I don't like the
Speaker 1: way he treat people. I don't like the way you
Speaker 1: try to interview people. But now I'm like, if Bobby's friends,
Speaker 1: obviously he legits, so whatever, where my my room? This
Speaker 1: the second ever? Bob? How do you feel about this?
Speaker 1: Feel good? So, just hanging out at Bobby's, I was talking,
Speaker 1: how's it? Because you and I've been friends and people
Speaker 1: ask how we met. I guess I was working out
Speaker 1: at twenty four Fitness that's right two in Austin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was probably mentioned like one day hard dude
Speaker 1: and Mike and I was like, damn, I can't work
Speaker 1: out with you. And now I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I like to keep it heavy, and he's like, okay,
Speaker 1: And so I think I had really like twenty five
Speaker 1: ex side always and I was like he he pushing
Speaker 1: away I was really trying if I wasn't that good
Speaker 1: at it yet, and so um um, I hired him
Speaker 1: to be my trainer. And so you trained me for
Speaker 1: a few months, and then we started hanging out and
Speaker 1: then talking about hanging out. Then we became buddies and
Speaker 1: then friends. I mean in that order, because I'm tough
Speaker 1: to warm up too. I don't think anyone would disagree
Speaker 1: with that. I mean, I wouldn't I would disagree with that.
Speaker 1: I mean he was always cool, like he was always chill,
Speaker 1: like I was like, that's just a regular dude. He
Speaker 1: was always chill, funny, making jokes that you always are
Speaker 1: right now, same as the same thing, same as you
Speaker 1: do right now. I appreciate that. Yeah, it was the
Speaker 1: same that. Maybe my perception is wrong. I felt that. See,
Speaker 1: yeah that's true. Maybe it's wrong. I mean, I feel you.
Speaker 1: But I feel like people be looking at me like
Speaker 1: why is that for the black dude? But and I
Speaker 1: always talk to be like like like girls, be like
Speaker 1: like the nerdy guy, or you know what I get
Speaker 1: a lot is people that don't know me in the
Speaker 1: industry or around Nashville, Like I did said a dick,
Speaker 1: look what I'm sitting there by himself. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying by myself because I feel awkward. I felt
Speaker 1: awkward in these places, like I don't do well in
Speaker 1: social situations, so I'm not Mr Life for the party.
Speaker 1: That's something that I did not figure out until later
Speaker 1: on that you were really like anxiety written I don't.
Speaker 1: It makes me nervous and my heartbeats and I don't
Speaker 1: sleep and around people, I'm like, oh I do. I
Speaker 1: don't have good communication skills, like outside of microphone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was hard core for me to realize. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: these just like staying the corner. Why is he not
Speaker 1: just chilling out like with everybody else? Why is he
Speaker 1: not just talking? And he was just like in the
Speaker 1: corner the whole time. And so a lot of people
Speaker 1: look at me and they go, he's black, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just anxiety, right, But no, it's again, I think
Speaker 1: people get that perception of me, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. You can try to shake
Speaker 1: it the best you can't. I think I've gotten better
Speaker 1: at it. Right. That's like a chick that you see
Speaker 1: and she's just like all beautiful and whatever, and she's
Speaker 1: probably the nicest person ever, and you miss out and
Speaker 1: you're like, dang, But really, we all go, oh, she's pretty,
Speaker 1: she's probably be Really it's not fair. But I think
Speaker 1: what we're talking about is very human. I think we
Speaker 1: all have these in our brain. We assigned roles to
Speaker 1: people without going into them any further. Yes, we need
Speaker 1: to stop that. Until today, I don't even know you're black.
Speaker 1: That's the funny thing. No idea, that no idea. Because
Speaker 1: I've been black long, I didn't even know that. I'm
Speaker 1: not even like light skinny. I didn't know that I'm
Speaker 1: like dark dog. That It's it's been weird to you
Speaker 1: for all your kids. I mean, you're talking about a
Speaker 1: big group of your friends. Me, I was the first one,
Speaker 1: and you kind of came into our group because of me. Huh, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: And but then we all left right like I like,
Speaker 1: because I took all my friends with me. It was
Speaker 1: like I wasn't taking this job in Nashville, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, I love Nashville. Now I love Austin too, um,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't coming here without all my friends. That
Speaker 1: was part of the deal. And so when I took him,
Speaker 1: it was like the troops moved out. We just took
Speaker 1: everybody said, dang hardcore, like all by myself in Austin.
Speaker 1: Was that weird for you? Oh man? Big time weird.
Speaker 1: I was just like, what am I going to even
Speaker 1: do on the weekends? Who am I even gonna call nobody? Nohing,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do nothing, just chick at the house.
Speaker 1: But myself, well, now you're here every week now, or
Speaker 1: you're on the road every week, or you're with us
Speaker 1: all the time. You came back, you came back and
Speaker 1: got me. Has it been weird to watch kind of
Speaker 1: the show? Oh man? The evolution to growth, it's been
Speaker 1: crazy weird. And at first it was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: the show is all different. When you hear from Austin
Speaker 1: and you here here in Nashville and you're like, oh
Speaker 1: now they switched it all up. We don't even like it.
Speaker 1: But now it's just like regular. Everybody's still nothing really changed,
Speaker 1: but it sounded like it when it left from all
Speaker 1: just because you thought it was going everyone just assumed
Speaker 1: it was going to So again we went and put
Speaker 1: the label on it like it changed. But I ever
Speaker 1: worked in many formats, even when I was doing sports.
Speaker 1: Nothing's different. I'm always me right. It was just tough
Speaker 1: because everybody was feeling like they was giving you a
Speaker 1: hard time in Nashville, and you was acting like people
Speaker 1: was like, I mean, actually they were. The people were
Speaker 1: pushing you, trying to push you out and stuff out there.
Speaker 1: They were and they still do it. But I've been
Speaker 1: trying to get pushed out everywhere, like I'm used to that,
Speaker 1: and then it did. It seemed like you was a
Speaker 1: little bit like trying to get your groove on in
Speaker 1: Nashville too, But you couldn't really find it at first.
Speaker 1: I don't know that fully found it yet, but I
Speaker 1: found it a bit o a bit okay, you don't
Speaker 1: even feel like you found it yet, not fully yet.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I ever will find it. If
Speaker 1: I ever do find it, I don't think that's a
Speaker 1: comfortable place for me to be, okay. But did you
Speaker 1: ever feel like you found your groove in Austin? So
Speaker 1: that was a great place. I was there ten years
Speaker 1: and there was there wasn't the pressures of now, Oh
Speaker 1: you know, I built my own to the cage company
Speaker 1: with my own money and I had no money, like
Speaker 1: you know where I used other than the Ny apartment
Speaker 1: about my first house, you know, I mean that was crazy,
Speaker 1: like Dana Shay bid from the ground. So we started
Speaker 1: from the bottom, and so are you here yet? No, never,
Speaker 1: I'll never be started from the bottom, still getting start
Speaker 1: from the bottom, down in the middle. That's not a
Speaker 1: good sun. Should have put that out of sun. Start
Speaker 1: it started, started, started from the bottom, in the middle,
Speaker 1: started from the bottom. Not a whole team mint, But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been a I can't wait till you find a groove.
Speaker 1: Then that's my group. My group is not having a groove.
Speaker 1: But in Austin you found your group because everybody, that's
Speaker 1: why you blew up there. Here's the thing about a
Speaker 1: groove in Austin. As I got like, okay, well this
Speaker 1: is it is easy now, like I had done what
Speaker 1: I could do there, like there wasn't anything else. We
Speaker 1: were number one for ten years. What there was not
Speaker 1: there was nowhere to go. I love it in the
Speaker 1: city there, but I was told, and I won't mention
Speaker 1: any jobs, but if this person leaves, you'll go to
Speaker 1: this place. This person needs to go to this place.
Speaker 1: And they both signed new contracts, major, big, big people.
Speaker 1: And I was stuck and I was like, what do
Speaker 1: I do because I'm expanding show. I built my own
Speaker 1: syndication company. That's what they told you when you was
Speaker 1: in Austin, if this person leaves, you're gonna stuff. But
Speaker 1: but for me, I loved being in Austin, but it
Speaker 1: was almost impossible to syndicate from there, especially with my
Speaker 1: own equipment and so and they we're like, hey, um,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to do country anyway because I mean,
Speaker 1: listen to me talk. I mean, I grew up in Arkansas.
Speaker 1: It's probably overall the best format. I love all music,
Speaker 1: like all music, but overall it's the best format for
Speaker 1: me to be in because I can expose new artists
Speaker 1: and talented artists and put them on the radio. And
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing you can't do that pop. It was
Speaker 1: just difficult. I mean, you can't do that. And here's
Speaker 1: the other thing too, is that if you want to
Speaker 1: be on a national level, you have to be in
Speaker 1: New York, l A. Or in country in Nashville because
Speaker 1: that's where all the stars are. It wasn't even about
Speaker 1: me so much. In Austin. You've got people maybe they
Speaker 1: would come to the radio station once a month maybe,
Speaker 1: and you had to beg them, and it was someone
Speaker 1: like Ashley Simpson. You know, m here. Everyone is here,
Speaker 1: so I'm able to say, hey, come in, let me.
Speaker 1: If you're new, let me, let me expose you and
Speaker 1: blow you up. If you're big, let me show people
Speaker 1: why you're you're as good as you are. Why would
Speaker 1: that work here and not Austin because because the artists,
Speaker 1: every artist lives here. This is where the entire industry
Speaker 1: of country music is. Every label, every recording studio, the
Speaker 1: artist I can just call, like I could call Keith THRP.
Speaker 1: But I go, hey, dude, would you come play You're
Speaker 1: Blue with Paper Color on the show next week? It
Speaker 1: were like, sure, no problem to drive twenty minutes and
Speaker 1: play at the show. So Austin doesn't have as many
Speaker 1: artists for pop none, they have none none. That makes sense.
Speaker 1: And at first I was like, what if I just
Speaker 1: staying Austin to the country show And they were like,
Speaker 1: you're just not gonna get what we need you to do.
Speaker 1: And now I fully get it. I understand. And what's
Speaker 1: great is Nashville is also great because if I had
Speaker 1: to move to somebody somewhere and I don't know what
Speaker 1: came to name a city that would be bad, but
Speaker 1: somewhere super cold, I guess would be awful. That's not
Speaker 1: New York because I would have moved to New York. Um,
Speaker 1: there has been a different story about that. So anything
Speaker 1: else in your mind that makes sense. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: who's your favorite country artist of all time? Darius Rutger, Well,
Speaker 1: of all time, it's Garth Brooks. Oh, that's your favorite?
Speaker 1: For real? Like of my lifetime? Easy Garth Brooke. That's
Speaker 1: the only guitar really I've kept. Am I that someone
Speaker 1: gave me. Um, easy Garth Brooks. We gotta wrap up
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. Got goot guitar picku but easy Garth Brooks.
Speaker 1: Like are you asking? Um? The one that you've interviewed
Speaker 1: like a real person? Uh, Darius is different. Thus Darius
Speaker 1: my first ever radio interview when I was seventeen. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's a friend, Like, that's my dude. I don't
Speaker 1: care if he wasn't in music anymore, he would still
Speaker 1: we would still will be in contact and text and
Speaker 1: talk about sports and like that. He's just so I
Speaker 1: mnna eliminate him too because it was a prior relationship.
Speaker 1: Garthm all time favorite as a kid gotta eliminate him
Speaker 1: because I was totally biased coming in, Like I'm the
Speaker 1: biggest Garth Brooks fan, and he's been so nice to me.
Speaker 1: Uh like, I really like Dirk's as a person. Nice.
Speaker 1: Keith Urban super nice. Like then, Keith Urban so nice
Speaker 1: that you wonder what's like, what's happening here? Like you're
Speaker 1: always nice, genuinely nice, genuinely nice. And we'll like text
Speaker 1: me like eight pm and be like, I just see
Speaker 1: you in a movie. You should watch it if you
Speaker 1: never seen it, and it'll be like something weird, and
Speaker 1: I'm telling you just to be nice because I have
Speaker 1: this movie thing. We're talking about movies and he's like,
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it started with Dog Day Afternoon,
Speaker 1: I've never never seen anything. You've never seen Dog Day Afternoon.
Speaker 1: I was like that never. It's like, oh, so we
Speaker 1: have we text a lot and he listens to the
Speaker 1: show and they'll invite me out to things, but um,
Speaker 1: I don't go for the most part. But we send
Speaker 1: each other clips and movies and like just a good
Speaker 1: anytime I ask them for anything, and I don't ask
Speaker 1: a lot. Always there that's what I saw. So Urbans
Speaker 1: there are a lot. There are a lot of good ones, genuine,
Speaker 1: genuine good ones. Yeah, most are genuinely good. Not the
Speaker 1: people who are trying to get something from you, for sure,
Speaker 1: those but just trying to be nice, but trying to
Speaker 1: act real, genuine something from There are some of those, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's just the nature of the business. But you
Speaker 1: know those you know whom you can feel who they
Speaker 1: are quick very quickly. Is it like a weird feeling
Speaker 1: when they step in the room and are y'all getting along?
Speaker 1: Or because there are a couple of artists big artists
Speaker 1: and I won't mention them. I don't think it'll be
Speaker 1: fair to that. We just have a very good professional
Speaker 1: relationship and I love it because of that. It's like,
Speaker 1: if you need me, I'm there. If I need you
Speaker 1: therey we're not really friends, but you need anything, let
Speaker 1: me know, And I'm the same way you needything. Let
Speaker 1: me know. Big artists too, like and I'm great with that.
Speaker 1: I don't have your friends everybody. I'm not here to
Speaker 1: be friends everybody. I need to be objective and give
Speaker 1: opinions about things. I can't do that if I'm friends
Speaker 1: with everybody. I try to not be friends with everybody
Speaker 1: like Eric Passley. I love that dude, like just good dude.
Speaker 1: You know Jansen, Chris Jansen. Some people have been hard
Speaker 1: to not be friends with. So that's it. That's what
Speaker 1: I saw. We're done. You tell me, all right, we're done? Good?
Speaker 1: All right? I got people texting me. That's the Amy's
Speaker 1: texting me right now. See you tonight. Amy's coming to
Speaker 1: guitar Brque. Amy's coming to the Gutarque. I am I
Speaker 1: gonna wear Hey, don't wear a tank, tok, dude, I
Speaker 1: hate it when you do that. I'll probably wear a
Speaker 1: tank time. You can't when you're dancing around the tank
Speaker 1: took you. Hey, when I wear a people aren't looking
Speaker 1: at you because you're black and so you know they're
Speaker 1: looking at you cause you're a built like a machine.
Speaker 1: But when you did that keep urban impression. Was that
Speaker 1: racist though? Probably? I don't think so. Yeah, No, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's I don't think sorr. Hey, thank you
Speaker 1: guys very much for listen to the Bobby Cast episode two.
Speaker 1: We thank you very much everybody for Bobby. For Trainer
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