WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: In The End

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<v Speaker 1>Happy New Year everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast. The I got it so

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<v Speaker 1>hard and got so far, but in the end it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't even matter. Addition, as the Bengals are eliminated from

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<v Speaker 1>playoff contention after a hard fought loss in Kansas City

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five to seventeen. Coming up Radio replays locker room

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<v Speaker 1>comments in postgame analysis from Dave Lapham. Then in this

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Horde. My friend Ken Levine wrote the episode. I

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<v Speaker 1>bring that up because one of my Christmas gifts this

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<v Speaker 1>year was a family portrait of me, my wife, and

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<v Speaker 1>my son looking like characters from The Simpsons, even sitting

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<v Speaker 1>but it is pretty cool. Or, as Bart Simpson might say, Cowabunga. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get to the radio replays from Sunday's loss in

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City. The Bengals got the ball to begin the

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<v Speaker 1>game and chewed up more than eight and a half minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>kicking a field goal to take a three to nothing lead,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Chiefs answered with a seventy five yard touchdown drive.

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals have their dime defense on the field, six defensive

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<v Speaker 1>backs on third down in goal from the eight, only

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<v Speaker 1>two defenders in three point stances for Cincinnati. Has Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>waits for the shotgun snap back at the thirteen, he catches,

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<v Speaker 1>He looks, fires a passing to the end zone, caught

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<v Speaker 1>by a wide open Pachecko for the Kansas City touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the only touchdown the Chiefs scored all day,

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<v Speaker 1>and on their second drive, the Bengals answered to retake

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<v Speaker 1>the lead. This will be the eleventh play of the drive.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals first drive lasted fifteen plays. Browning throws caught

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<v Speaker 1>by Mixon driving toward the end zone, touchdown. Bengals Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Mixon doing push ups in the end zone after hauling

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<v Speaker 1>in the touchdown pass from Jake Browning. It was ten

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<v Speaker 1>to seven Cincinnati. In less than a minute later, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals defense made a big play. Mahomes in the gun.

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<v Speaker 1>Three receivers out to the left. He's back to throw.

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes from the pocket, has it stripped from behind. Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Hendrickson knocked it away from Patrick Mahomes and the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>recover after twenty four yard line. Trey Hendrickson will get

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<v Speaker 1>credit for a strip sack there, his seventeenth sack of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, as he knocked the ball free from Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes and Sam Hubbard recovered that gave the Bengals the

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<v Speaker 1>ball at the Kansas City twenty four, and Cincinnati capitalized

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<v Speaker 1>third down in goal inside the one. The Bengals are

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<v Speaker 1>five for six on third down tries. Browning will be

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<v Speaker 1>under center. Mixon is the running back. True sample motions.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he will line up right behind Browning. They do

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<v Speaker 1>not do the tush push. Browning rolls right, He keeps

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, spins backward and gets into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Touchdown Bengals on a one yard scramble by Jake Browning.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals had a seventeen to seven lead midway through

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<v Speaker 1>the second quarter, with scores on their first three possessions. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals did not score again on their final seven

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<v Speaker 1>drives of the game. Two Kansas City field goals made

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<v Speaker 1>it seventeen to thirteen at the half. On the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>first drive of the third quarter, they started at their

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<v Speaker 1>own seventeen and drove to the Kansas City six, where

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<v Speaker 1>they faced fourth down and one. Rather than kick a

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<v Speaker 1>field goal to push the lead back to seven, Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor elected to go for it. The line is overloaded

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<v Speaker 1>to the right Cody Ford plus two tight ends to

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<v Speaker 1>that side. Browning's under center takes the snap, gives it

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<v Speaker 1>to mix, and he doesn't come close to getting back

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<v Speaker 1>to the line of scrimmage. Willie Gay greeted him at

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<v Speaker 1>a nine for a three yard loss.

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<v Speaker 2>I just felt like, fourth and one, we need to

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<v Speaker 2>go for it.

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<v Speaker 3>There.

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<v Speaker 2>They played a goal line front. Really, you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>a little further situation than we expected. Is a good

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<v Speaker 2>play by them. They did a good job making the play.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chiefs dominated the rest of the game, kicking field

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<v Speaker 1>goals on four straight possessions and punishing Jake Browning with

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<v Speaker 1>their pass rush. Once they had the lead, second down

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<v Speaker 1>and sixteen, the Bengals hit their own forty nine. They

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<v Speaker 1>trail by eight to go. Shotgun snapped to Browning sacked again,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Jones pouncing on the Bengals quarterback. This time it's

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<v Speaker 1>back to the thirty eight yard line. The loss of

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<v Speaker 1>eleven on the sack.

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<v Speaker 3>And now it's yeah again.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the most brutal time to try to pass

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<v Speaker 4>protect because there's only one thing you're gonna do, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's tough for me.

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<v Speaker 3>The Chiefs are coming with pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City finished with six sacks and fourteen quarterback hits

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<v Speaker 1>and wrapped up their eighth straight AFC West title with

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty five to seventeen win. The Bengals fell to

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<v Speaker 1>eight and eight and were eliminated from playoff contention. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Hubbard.

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<v Speaker 5>We got a lot of great players that are going

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<v Speaker 5>to take this adversity that we face this year and

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<v Speaker 5>turn into a positive, work extra hard, come back hungry

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<v Speaker 5>next year to do what we need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I am.

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<v Speaker 5>We faced a lot this year, but like I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just proud of this locker room. I love this

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<v Speaker 5>locker room. I love how everybody carried themselves, how they

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<v Speaker 5>treated each other, how they worked weekend, week out despite

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<v Speaker 5>any circumstance stance to try and get the win, try

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<v Speaker 5>to stay together, and like I said, I'm proud of

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<v Speaker 5>the locker room.

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Browning threw for one hundred and ninety seven yards

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<v Speaker 1>in a touchdown and ran for thirty two yards in

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<v Speaker 1>another score. His passer rating for the season ninety six

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<v Speaker 1>point five, and he's certainly proven to be a capable backup,

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<v Speaker 1>but that didn't lessen the disappointment on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's Jake It sucks to lose when you're in still

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<v Speaker 6>in the race, and uh, you know, there's no real crazy,

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<v Speaker 6>insightful comment there, just it sucks to lose anytime, and

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<v Speaker 6>especially when you know you needed that win to keep battling.

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<v Speaker 6>But uh, you know, I don't know what the playoff

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<v Speaker 6>picture and all that looks like. But I think the

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<v Speaker 6>standard that was established, you know, even before I got here,

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<v Speaker 6>was to just keep battling, and so that's what we're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna do. I mean, I think I think they made

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<v Speaker 6>some good adjustments at halftime, started doubling guys and uh

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<v Speaker 6>and spying as well, and so you know, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 6>was tough. It was tough to be able to tell

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<v Speaker 6>who was who's getting doubled and stuff. They mixed it up,

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<v Speaker 6>and uh, yeah, it's good scheme, good players, and didn't

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<v Speaker 6>do enough to get it done. Yeah, I'm still processing

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<v Speaker 6>a loss and sucks. It's great locker room people are

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<v Speaker 6>that starts with who you bring in the locker room.

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<v Speaker 6>People are gonna keep battling and uh and I felt

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of support throughout the last couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 6>especially coming off of a poor performance with the Steelers game,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, I didn't feel like anybody was point

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<v Speaker 6>fingers or anything. It was just focus on what everybody

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<v Speaker 6>needs to do to get better. And so, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's kind of my comments on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Defensively, the Bengals gave up four passes of more than

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<v Speaker 1>twenty yards, including sixty seven and forty one yarders. They

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<v Speaker 1>also allowed runs of thirty five and thirty seven yards

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<v Speaker 1>by Isaiah Piciceco, who finished with a buck thirty, becoming

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<v Speaker 1>the fifth running back to top one hundred yards against

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals this year. I talked to Cam Taylor Britt

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<v Speaker 1>after the game. Joe got hurt on the second day

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<v Speaker 1>of training camp. Did just feel like from the very

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<v Speaker 1>beginning there was too much to overcome this.

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<v Speaker 7>I wouldn't say it's never too much to overcome because

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<v Speaker 7>you know, with me and my teammates, we feel like,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, in any situation, we come together as one.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, we can find ourselves out of anybody battle,

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<v Speaker 7>no matter the score, no matter you know, who goes down.

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<v Speaker 7>You know it's always next man up for sure. But

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<v Speaker 7>uh yeah, when he went down, most definitely you've seen

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<v Speaker 7>a downfall and a lot of my teammates most definitely

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<v Speaker 7>because you know, you're number one guys now. But I say,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, throughout those weeks when Jake came in, the

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<v Speaker 7>things everything kind of clicked together. But no, we just

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<v Speaker 7>got stays one.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when we play our best.

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<v Speaker 1>Felt like you approached this game like a playoff game today.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, anytime, man, I really say all my games, Man,

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<v Speaker 7>it's playoff atmosphere, honestly, just because Man, you're in the NFL. Bro,

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<v Speaker 7>everybody's good.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna play a.

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<v Speaker 7>Team who is two and eight and they have good players,

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<v Speaker 7>and most definitely you gotta come in every day, every

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<v Speaker 7>game and you know, just treated as such. We may

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<v Speaker 7>never get the opportunity again.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been a lot of big plays against the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals defense this year. I guess that's kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>common thread and the losses. Is it a head scratcher

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<v Speaker 1>why other teams have been able to pull off so

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<v Speaker 1>many big plays?

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's just in the room man with us, Man,

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<v Speaker 7>A lot of people that don't get a lot, but

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<v Speaker 7>when they do, man is meaningful and such such times

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<v Speaker 7>in the game. But we need to get off the

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<v Speaker 7>field on third and long and we get hit on

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<v Speaker 7>a seven route number twenty five yards and he continues

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<v Speaker 7>to run. You know, that's not team defense football, especially

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<v Speaker 7>Bengals football. So Most definitely got to come in and

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<v Speaker 7>you know, execute and fix all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>In this game, Patrick wasn't throwing it over your head,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was hitting guys in stride to turn that

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<v Speaker 1>ten yard play into a forty yard play.

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<v Speaker 7>You knows we're gonna try to man him up and

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<v Speaker 7>try to get pressure on him. So they just try

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<v Speaker 7>to run away from us, you know, try to pick

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<v Speaker 7>pick everybody, you know, running through each other.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that's about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're eight and eight with a game to go. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>this one eliminates the Bengals from playoff contention. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>what you have to still play for is to finish

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<v Speaker 1>with a winning record. Is that a big deal?

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<v Speaker 7>That is a huge deal, man, Every game is a

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<v Speaker 7>huge deal, especially this last one. Man, you're playing the

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<v Speaker 7>Cleveland Browns, so why not. You know, you gotta go

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<v Speaker 7>get it, man, put your best foot out there. They

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<v Speaker 7>have everything to lose what we don't, So you know,

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<v Speaker 7>Most definitely go out there and give them a fight.

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<v Speaker 1>And you don't want to go win less in the

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<v Speaker 1>AFC North.

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<v Speaker 7>Now you can't go with it list, Man, So we

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<v Speaker 7>gotta go out there and put our best foot for

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<v Speaker 7>at Like you know, this is not the last game,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, just continue to fight.

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<v Speaker 1>You kept them out of the end zone, but they

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<v Speaker 1>moved the ball enough to kick field goals. That was

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't want to put words in your mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>but that feels like the negative to me.

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<v Speaker 7>And man, we gotta get off the field and third down,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, just as simple as that. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 7>the explosives matter, and they won't be able to get

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<v Speaker 7>down there without the kick the field goals without the explosive.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, most definitely we gotta keep that off

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<v Speaker 7>the back end. Uh, the front end, they were doing

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<v Speaker 7>their job, you know, getting to the quarterback making make

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<v Speaker 7>some crazy decisions. So we just gotta hold up man

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<v Speaker 7>as a as a team on the DAP on the

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<v Speaker 7>back end, I said.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I appreciate your time, Thank you, thank you. Now

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<v Speaker 1>let's hear from head coach Zach Taylor, who spent a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of minutes with LAP.

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<v Speaker 4>Coach Keenan fought hard. I mean, give it everything. Yeah

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<v Speaker 4>they did.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm proud of the way that the eyes showed up

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<v Speaker 2>and played and did everything they could, and we just

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<v Speaker 2>came up a little short today and credit to Kansas City,

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<v Speaker 2>but again proud of the way you guys fought often

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<v Speaker 2>on the.

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<v Speaker 4>Field in the fourth quarter. It became, you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>real tough dynamic. Obviously ended up with eleven yards on

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen plays after the fourth down stopped that they had

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<v Speaker 4>thirty six yards on nineteen plays. Do you think the

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<v Speaker 4>win was out of the sales a little bit?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't feel that.

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<v Speaker 2>We just we just didn't maintain very good rhythm, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's it's a challenge when you come in here

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<v Speaker 2>in a tough environment versus a really good defense. We

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<v Speaker 2>obviously expected to produce more than we did and and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have to watch the tape and see what we

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<v Speaker 2>could have done.

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<v Speaker 4>Better defensively, though they're playing at a very high level.

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<v Speaker 4>And the first half, I thought the offense, I thought

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<v Speaker 4>Jake Browning really acquitted himself well and to me, he

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<v Speaker 4>was doing Patrick Mahomes type stuff. Really.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he managed the game really well. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what got difficult at the end was when they just

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<v Speaker 2>pinned their ears back and came out after the passer.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the type of game we knew we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to play. That's where they've been successful. We just

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do enough in the third quarter to give ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>a lead where we could stay out of that.

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<v Speaker 4>And when you were able to use the running game

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<v Speaker 4>and be balanced. I you had fourteen first downs at

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<v Speaker 4>one junction, was seven on the ground, six in the

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<v Speaker 4>air and won by penalty, so it was very balanced

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<v Speaker 4>in their pass rush. You guys were negating it. It

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't really that big of a deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought we had a good play on Our

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<v Speaker 2>players believed in it and did a great job executing

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<v Speaker 2>it and again just came up short through in the

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<v Speaker 2>second half.

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<v Speaker 4>So no turnovers they had one, they had the fumble,

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<v Speaker 4>but then the fourth down stop kind of negates that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, that turnovers, So it was even steven in

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<v Speaker 4>that regard, And that's what these kind of games come

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<v Speaker 4>down to, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>It does you know? And again I thought our defense

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<v Speaker 2>stood up and played hard. Them did into the field

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<v Speaker 2>goals when they could. Just as a team collectively, we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do enough to get to win.

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<v Speaker 4>Coach, I know, I guess officially eliminated from playoff contention

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<v Speaker 4>at this point. The Pittsburgh Steelers winning in Seattle. But

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<v Speaker 4>all you guys gave it a heck of a run

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<v Speaker 4>and got another game against the Cleveland Browns.

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<v Speaker 5>And I lose.

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<v Speaker 4>Football team's going to show up and play it and

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<v Speaker 4>play it hard. So everybody show up at Paycorn support

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<v Speaker 4>this football team. They deserve it, no doubt. This team

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<v Speaker 4>is fought hard. They represent this organization the right way.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a meaningful game for us. It's a divisional game.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a chance to finish with the winning record in

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<v Speaker 4>front of our fans, and so they deserve our best

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<v Speaker 4>and we're going to give them our best. Appreciate coach

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<v Speaker 4>very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, thanks Lom. We now know the game time next

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<v Speaker 1>guys regap LAP. Last year was late January, the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>season came to an end here in Kansas City when

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<v Speaker 1>they lost in the AFC Championship game. The season doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>end today, but their playoff chances due with this loss

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<v Speaker 1>to the Kansas City Chiefs. To me, this game was

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<v Speaker 1>a microcosm of the entire season. Too many big plays allowed,

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't stop the other team's running game, couldn't quite do

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<v Speaker 1>enough on the offensive end.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's in the fourth quarter. Offensively, it had

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<v Speaker 4>a pretty good game for three quarters. Fifteen snaps eleven

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<v Speaker 4>yards in the fourth quarter, and it all you know,

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<v Speaker 4>from the when they had the fourth and one stop,

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<v Speaker 4>when no turnovers, took care of the football that way.

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<v Speaker 4>We talked about every possession ending with a kick fourth

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<v Speaker 4>and one gets knocked back for a couple of yard loss,

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<v Speaker 4>and from that point on, nineteen snaps thirty six yards.

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<v Speaker 4>So obviously that took the wind out of the sales,

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<v Speaker 4>totally deflated the football team. And I can understand it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that was huge. There's no question, and because

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<v Speaker 4>it was a dogfed defensively. In spite of all the

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<v Speaker 4>things that were going wrong, they were holding them to

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<v Speaker 4>field goals. You know, So put one on the board,

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<v Speaker 4>one on the board and get you know, Paul the

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<v Speaker 4>Great Paul Brown, get points in a battle like you're in.

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<v Speaker 4>Make sure you get points, don't come away with nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, that kind of resonated with me. But

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<v Speaker 4>in this era of analytics and all that, there's all

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of arguments you can make. But numbers aren't number

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<v Speaker 4>ninety five on the football field that you have to block.

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<v Speaker 4>Numbers aren't number fifteen that you have to defend, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, numbers are numbers, and at some point you

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<v Speaker 4>have to, you know, make a determination as to man,

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<v Speaker 4>where are we, what we have to do to try

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<v Speaker 4>to win this game, how we doing against some of

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<v Speaker 4>these guys. Do we feel like we've got enough to

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<v Speaker 4>hold them off?

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I'm conservative, but I'd always lean toward taking points.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably disagree with you on that. I'm okay with

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<v Speaker 1>going for it. Obviously it didn't work, It really didn't work,

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<v Speaker 1>losing three. At the time, I didn't really second guess it,

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<v Speaker 1>But I know what you're saying. I mean, the way

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<v Speaker 1>the game played out, it certainly seems like I would

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<v Speaker 1>have been prudent to take three.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I just I just think in a big game

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<v Speaker 4>like that, the if you get it, you're not guaranteed

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<v Speaker 4>to not kicking a field anyway. So to me, it's

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<v Speaker 4>better to come away with points than what happened to them.

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<v Speaker 4>They got so deflated when they got nothing that it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Okay, maybe maybe you do convert on fourth

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<v Speaker 4>and one in the low red zone, so now it's

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<v Speaker 4>first and goal. Maybe maybe you get a touch on,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe you don't, maybe kick a field goal and you

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<v Speaker 4>just burn more clock or whatever. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess, but it was fourth and one. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>like it was fourth and three and it kept blown up.

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<v Speaker 4>The execution of it wasn't wasn't any good whatsoever. Son

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<v Speaker 4>can understand it, can understand it, and you know both ways.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just I just know how in a game

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<v Speaker 4>like that where you're fighting tooth and nail and you

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<v Speaker 4>come away with nothing and you're straining on every snap

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<v Speaker 4>to block ninety five, and it's like, damn, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>got nothing out of that. But again, if you had

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<v Speaker 4>scored a touchdown, now you're sitting in high cotton. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's that's the game, that's the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's where the former player factor maybe should

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<v Speaker 1>be considered because the numbers. I'm sure they crunch these numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>and the numbers say the right thing to do is

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<v Speaker 1>to go for it. But those numbers have never been

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<v Speaker 1>on the field and know what it's like when you

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<v Speaker 1>go for it and don't get it, and how that

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<v Speaker 1>affects you emotionally.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, well, I mean some of the numbers. It might

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<v Speaker 4>be a really good football team working against the weak

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<v Speaker 4>system and they convert x number of fourth down in shorts.

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<v Speaker 4>This is not a week stich a situation. You're on

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<v Speaker 4>the road, loud, hostile environment. You can't come off the

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<v Speaker 4>football maybe as aggressively as you want to. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>there's so many factors involved where you know, in my mind,

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<v Speaker 4>the analytics is just like a sterile numbers situation, not

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<v Speaker 4>any kind of environmental considerations or anything like that. So

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<v Speaker 4>and I can understand it. But Dan Campbell's probably scratch

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<v Speaker 4>has had on a few of them as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So they gave up a pass of more than sixty,

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<v Speaker 1>they gave up another pass of more than forty. They

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<v Speaker 1>gave up a thirty five yard run, they gave up

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty seven yard run. It's happened too many times

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<v Speaker 1>this year to just be you know something, you're right

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<v Speaker 1>off as one of those things. This is a major

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<v Speaker 1>problem that has to be analyzed and fixed in time

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<v Speaker 1>for next year.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I mean the team has been shredded. Was it

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<v Speaker 4>seven or eight plays of twenty fe yards and water

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<v Speaker 4>night count and run pass? I mean, that's that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that that number, you just you just can't

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<v Speaker 4>live with that number. And again it's not just seventy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, you know, you get up into the forties,

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<v Speaker 4>you get up into the into the uh you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like last week the eighties, you get up into the sixties.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean those those kind of numbers are are incredible.

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<v Speaker 4>And uh yeah, you look at the last two weeks alone,

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<v Speaker 4>the back to back losses where you know you needed

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<v Speaker 4>to step up and make a statement defensively were shredded.

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<v Speaker 4>There's not I think there's only one team in the

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<v Speaker 4>league that has given up more twenty yard players in

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<v Speaker 4>Tampa Bay. Isn't Tampa Bay that and Tampa Bay was

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<v Speaker 4>in the playoff fight too. I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 4>still are or not, but you know that that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>The two teams that were getting shredded and chunk plays

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<v Speaker 4>and explosive plays are still winning teams. So yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 4>something something definitely has to be looked at. For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>They've really prioritized adding speed on defense in the last

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<v Speaker 1>draft or two. Have they gone too far towards speed

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<v Speaker 1>and little need a little bit more physicality.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I don't know. I think I think speed

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<v Speaker 4>is uh is a factor. We saw it tonight. Recoverability speed,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Ax Hill ran down places or touchdowns if

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<v Speaker 4>not for him out in the football field running them down,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's a that's a big, a big factor in

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<v Speaker 4>the speed is the you know, the recoverability part of it,

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<v Speaker 4>because if you're if you're a young guy that hasn't

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<v Speaker 4>seen everything yet and you're not in the right position

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<v Speaker 4>to make the plays, speed doesn't become as big as

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<v Speaker 4>a factory, you know. But then if you give up

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<v Speaker 4>a play, if it becomes a factor and recoverability and

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<v Speaker 4>not giving up to the house, but you're giving up

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of yards. So I think I think these

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<v Speaker 4>guys are physical enough, but again, I think that's a

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<v Speaker 4>confidence thing too, and I think I think when they

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<v Speaker 4>come back next year, it's going to be I can

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<v Speaker 4>I can just remember vividly, Dan, how when I came

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<v Speaker 4>to training camp my second year, as opposed to training

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<v Speaker 4>camp my rookie year, it was like night and day

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<v Speaker 4>and first, you know, the first few games, just getting

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<v Speaker 4>into a rhythm a lot quicker and feeling comfortable about

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<v Speaker 4>everything and feeling like you're not gonna you know, there's

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<v Speaker 4>no hesitation. You know exactly what you're supposed to do

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<v Speaker 4>and how you're supposed to do it, and then you're

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<v Speaker 4>going out and doing it, whereas there's a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of apprehension, you know, in the early stages of your

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<v Speaker 4>rookie year.

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Browning did a reasonably good job today when he

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<v Speaker 1>had time, threw a touchdown, pass, ran for a touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>and one hundred and ninety seven passing yards and passer

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<v Speaker 1>rating mayighty five. He has certainly shown that he is

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<v Speaker 1>a very solid backup quarterback. But I think we can

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<v Speaker 1>see the difference between a Jake Browning Bengals team and

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<v Speaker 1>a Joe Burrow Bengals team and the ceiling that they

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<v Speaker 1>can reach when Joe's in the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I mean, there's there's there's no question. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Burrow is one of the highest paid guys in

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<v Speaker 4>the league for a reason. You know, it's not it's

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<v Speaker 4>not a small sample size. It's a sample size that

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<v Speaker 4>he's proven himself for a period of time. But I

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<v Speaker 4>will say, as a former lineman, I would go in

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<v Speaker 4>a huddle with Jake Browning any day. I think the

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<v Speaker 4>way he comports himself, the way he leads, the way

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<v Speaker 4>he competes, his toughness, I would have no qualms, no issues,

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<v Speaker 4>no like wondering about Jake Browning. I would go in

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<v Speaker 4>the huddle of dead dude every single day of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, knowing that you have a very solid backup quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>is a big deal. You know, in a season like

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<v Speaker 1>this one where your starter was really healthy for about

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<v Speaker 1>five games, that's tough to overcome. But in a typical season,

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<v Speaker 1>if your starter has to miss a game or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a couple, knowing that you have a guy that can

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<v Speaker 1>win a couple of games if he needs to is huge.

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<v Speaker 4>Massive and Turk shown it's the guy that I look to.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we had total faith in Turch showing it

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<v Speaker 4>in his ability to win football games for us. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>was he gonna play like Kenny? Was he gonna do

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<v Speaker 4>it the way Kenny did or Boomer? But I didn't play.

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't playing in that era. But it started with

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<v Speaker 4>with Kenny Anderson Turk showing it. You know, Kenny breaks

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<v Speaker 4>his hand, Turk comes in and it's like he was

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<v Speaker 4>always totally prepared. You knew that he knew his stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>He wasn't guessing, you know, he was on point with everything,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was going to compete and uh confident. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna go out win this game. Boys, Let's go,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. And that's how Jake is. So those guys

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<v Speaker 4>are invaluable. There's no question.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ravens are the number one seed in the AFC,

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<v Speaker 1>the Browns are the number one wildcard team in the AFC,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Pittsburgh Steelers are back in the hunt after

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<v Speaker 1>back to back wins over Cincinnati and Seattle.

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<v Speaker 4>And they all feasted on the Bengals. Hopefully Cluved doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>feast on him one more time because zero to five

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<v Speaker 4>in the division. I mean, when that occurred, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like this, this is uh, this is almost like

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<v Speaker 4>a pipe dream. Get in the playoffs and and get

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<v Speaker 4>a seated position in the playoffs with a one in

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<v Speaker 4>five division record potentially that that would have been crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Steelers clinched their twentieth consecutive non losing season

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<v Speaker 1>within their win today. That's what's still. Let's take now

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<v Speaker 1>for the Bengals, win the final game, have a winning record,

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<v Speaker 1>make it three years in a row.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely and uh, and finishing at home on an up

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<v Speaker 4>note is big. And you know, Forest Greg used to

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<v Speaker 4>call it an uptick. Boys. We want to we want

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<v Speaker 4>to play in front of our people and and go

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<v Speaker 4>out and play some physical football that they'd be proud

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<v Speaker 4>of and finish on an uptick. Let's get it done.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. That'll be the theme next week. An uptick finale,

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<v Speaker 1>an uptick finale, and let's get that tick real high. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for this week's fun Facts conversation, where you

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<v Speaker 1>get to know the person under the pads. Time for

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<v Speaker 1>some fun facts with safety Dax Hill. Let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>your name, and I don't mean your first name, Daxton,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty unique, but your middle name is Jorel.

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<v Speaker 1>The name of Superman's father. Are your parents comic book

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<v Speaker 1>fans or what did they tell you about giving you

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<v Speaker 1>the middle name Jorell?

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<v Speaker 3>They weren't, actually, But I think my dad randomly just

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<v Speaker 3>came across that name, and that was a pretty cool

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<v Speaker 3>name obviously Superman Superman, and you know his father saw

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<v Speaker 3>I guess he was like, yeah, minus, well, as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully we get a Superman out of deck. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's where that came from. But not comic book

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<v Speaker 3>fans at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids can be sensitive about their middle names when they

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<v Speaker 1>share them with the other kids, even if the name

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<v Speaker 1>is really plain. Did you like it or were you

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<v Speaker 1>sensitive about having an unusual middle name?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? Not really. I mean a lot of people didn't

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<v Speaker 3>really know my middle name, which which was crazy now

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<v Speaker 3>that that you know, has that that that meaning behind it.

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<v Speaker 3>But but yeah, I mean I I kind of just

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<v Speaker 3>embraced it. I kind of liked that. Whenever my dad

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<v Speaker 3>told me at a young young age, I would like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll rock with it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing fun facts with Dax Hill. You're from Tulsa, Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to Tulsa many times because you see in

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<v Speaker 1>Tulsa used to be in the same conference. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's the windiest place I've ever been in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's considered a high risk area for tornadoes. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you experience that as a kid?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? Yeah, I actually been in two tornadoes, actually one

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<v Speaker 3>at the house and then whenever I was at church

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<v Speaker 3>service one day. You know, scary feeling. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 3>hear all the wind right above you. Luckily the roofs

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<v Speaker 3>didn't come out, come off or anything like that, but

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you can hear everything swirling outside, the leaves,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, branches and hitting the windows. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a scary feeling. But you know, once you made it,

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<v Speaker 3>make it out alive. I mean, you know it's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're thankful. So those experiences are, you know, kind of scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you go into the basement or anything like that

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<v Speaker 1>when you heard those high wins?

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<v Speaker 3>I forgot where I was at church where we went,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think we kind of just stayed in the

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<v Speaker 3>main part of it. But at home you kind of

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<v Speaker 3>went underneath the underneath the house and make sure everything

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<v Speaker 3>was good.

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<v Speaker 1>You have one sibling, an older brother, Justice, who is

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<v Speaker 1>three years older than you are. How competitive were the

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<v Speaker 1>two of you as kids?

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<v Speaker 3>We're competitive. I always wanted to one up him and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew I was a better basketball player. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we always you know, played a game. At twenty one,

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<v Speaker 3>he always you know won, But once I started getting

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit older, that's when I started to get

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<v Speaker 3>the wins. So we're definitely competitive at a young age.

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<v Speaker 1>Friendly competition or did your parents have to pull you

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<v Speaker 1>apart from time to time?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it was kind of just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just having fun. You know, sometimes I don't think it

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<v Speaker 3>would get that crazy to where, you know, we're fighting

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<v Speaker 3>or anything like that. Sometimes we probably every once in

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<v Speaker 3>a while we may you know, you know, verbalize how

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<v Speaker 3>we felt, but pretty much friendly.

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<v Speaker 1>He's obviously in the NFL as well with the Baltimore Ravens.

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<v Speaker 1>When the Bengals face the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 3>What do your parents wear whenever? Our first guns in

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL? One War one jersey other one war, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the Baltimore Jersey. Now it's kind of just been half

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<v Speaker 3>so you know, you know a lot of people anticipated

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<v Speaker 3>that happen, and it happened this year.

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<v Speaker 1>We're chatting with Dax Hill. You attended Booker T. Washington

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<v Speaker 1>High School, which is considered one of the top public

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<v Speaker 1>schools in the US, and your parents went there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an academic requirement to get in. You can study

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<v Speaker 1>five world languages there. What did you gain from going

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<v Speaker 1>to a school like that in high school?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, I mean I learned a lot of I mean

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<v Speaker 3>every subject was pretty tough at AP classes, IB classes.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's a very like you said, very good school,

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<v Speaker 3>top schools and you know, Oklahoma and the nation, and

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I feel like they have to be prepared

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<v Speaker 3>going into college, and you know, so I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>they did a you know, pretty good job, you know

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<v Speaker 3>with you know, me and my brother, they're both going there.

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<v Speaker 1>You were the Gatorade Player of the Year in the

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<v Speaker 1>state of Oklahoma. You could have gone to any college

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<v Speaker 1>in the country. Was the recruiting process a bit overwhelming?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I mean I really had, you know, every

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<v Speaker 3>college offer there was in the Power five. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>first it was kind of hectic, but Jane, I feel like, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>junior year, that's when it started to kind of just

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<v Speaker 3>settle down for me. I kind of knew where I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to go from there. I just you know, focused

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<v Speaker 3>on schools that I wanted to go had like a

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<v Speaker 3>top five or something like that, I think coming out

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, senior year, and so from there kind

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<v Speaker 3>of just you know, committed to Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>I read that your parents gave you this advice when

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<v Speaker 1>you were choosing a school, where would you go if

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<v Speaker 1>football was not part of the equation? Is that true?

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<v Speaker 1>And did you take that advice?

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<v Speaker 3>I did. I mean it was kind of a drawn

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<v Speaker 3>out thing. I feel like just because you know, my parents,

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<v Speaker 3>they sat now with me kind of just we had

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<v Speaker 3>like a pros and cons board, really just split it

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<v Speaker 3>down the middle which side and kind of just outweighed

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<v Speaker 3>the other one. And I feel like they were a

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<v Speaker 3>key part of, you know, my decision going to Michigan

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<v Speaker 3>and really just not focused on football, but kind of

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<v Speaker 3>just the holistic view of just my life, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>besides football. So they had a major part of that.

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<v Speaker 1>He played for Jim Harbaugh. Clearly a great coach, but

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<v Speaker 1>he seems a little odd to me. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a best Jim Harbaugh weird story?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say in my home visit. We had good

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<v Speaker 3>conversations with him for a few hours, and I felt

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<v Speaker 3>like one time he just kind of just not dazed

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<v Speaker 3>off of kind of just staring off in the space

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<v Speaker 3>as if we weren't talking. That was hilarious to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, man, what's is he thinking about something else?

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<v Speaker 3>Or is he worried about me right now? You know,

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 3>it was just, you know, kind of just took me

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<v Speaker 3>for a loop. I was like, Okay, he just kind

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 3>of just went to his own world for a second,

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<v Speaker 3>which was hilarious to me. But, like you said, a

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<v Speaker 3>great coach, great person.

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<v Speaker 1>So you had a great career for the Wolverines and

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<v Speaker 1>played in one of the greatest rivalries in sports Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>State Michigan. And in your final game in that rivalry,

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<v Speaker 1>you were part of a Michigan team that ended a

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<v Speaker 1>streak of eight straight losses to the buck Eys. What

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<v Speaker 1>are your most vivid memories of that win? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Really just the atmosphere. I was like flirting the entire game,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like a snow game, and really just the

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<v Speaker 3>energy of that game going into you know, that game,

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 3>it was just you know, hyped up obviously. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we had that one circle on the board, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>since we started, you know, that season. So I mean

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like that was a great win for you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the entire you know, state of Michigan, the university, Like

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 3>everything about that win was just memorable.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems to have turned the tide in the rivalry.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like I mean, was it three years now,

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<v Speaker 3>three years in a row, So I mean, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like we can keep it going just as long as

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 3>they did. You know, I feel like we can do

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<v Speaker 3>that in you know and some so.

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<v Speaker 1>So after your time at Michigan, you were selected with

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty first pick of the first round by the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>Describe your draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Night, have family friends over, you know, waiting the entire night,

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 3>not knowing when I was gonna get picked. So, you know,

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:14.000
<v Speaker 3>my family they were there, supported me. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of just high and low throughout the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't know where I was gonna go. Thought I was

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go like fifteen twenty, but ended up falling a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. But I'm thankful for where I'm at now.

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<v Speaker 1>You tied the knot this passed off season. What's more

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<v Speaker 1>stressful Draft night or wedding night?

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, wedding for sure. Wedding for sure. Man, just really

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<v Speaker 3>just getting the ring, which was stressful because we were

0:33:37.840 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 3>trying to go out the country. We didn't have our

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<v Speaker 3>passports at that time, so I was trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>my passport at that time and didn't get the ring

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<v Speaker 3>in as well. So the ring came in and then

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<v Speaker 3>the passports they weren't in yet. So I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I have all this plan out of the country and

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully we can still go. So once we got there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you know, uh kind of just say what

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<v Speaker 3>I said. We're here now, so, uh, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of just was probably you have a very special moment

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<v Speaker 3>for me, but I feel like a lot more stressful

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<v Speaker 3>than than anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>How'd you pop the question? Do you have a good story?

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<v Speaker 3>I was kind of just out the country. I was

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<v Speaker 3>in Saint Martin. Uh, wasn't anything special. She was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of surprised by it. It was like the first night

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<v Speaker 3>we got there, kind of just what did I do?

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of just it was like a like a

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<v Speaker 3>gazebo almost leaning out to the water, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>just like the perfect view on the sunset, was like

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<v Speaker 3>the sun was setting and kind of just walked out there.

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<v Speaker 3>The water was going wasn't too too choppy or anything

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<v Speaker 3>like that, just a nice breeze, and I mean that's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of my story just you know, up out of

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<v Speaker 3>the question, and that's how I happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's gonna say no with that setting? All right, a

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<v Speaker 1>few wild card topics Now for Dax Hill. Who is

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<v Speaker 1>your all time favorite athlete in any sport? And why?

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<v Speaker 3>I say? Michael Jordan. I mean, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 3>grew up like him, But really, just watching the Last

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<v Speaker 3>Dance Series, I feel like that kind of just made

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<v Speaker 3>me even more more of a fan of him and

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<v Speaker 3>his preparation. And I mean, I feel like he's the

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<v Speaker 3>best basketball player to ever play. So so, Michael Jordan,

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<v Speaker 3>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us something about you that not many people know.

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<v Speaker 3>I played three instruments growing up. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people know that, but I mean I

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<v Speaker 3>played the trumpet, violin, viola, a little bit of the bass,

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<v Speaker 3>but not really. But I just say, three instruments. So

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<v Speaker 3>I grew up going to you know, you know, lessons

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<v Speaker 3>and doing all that. I went to a charter school,

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<v Speaker 3>so they had like a musical like a music music

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<v Speaker 3>school almost so uh so, yeah, I kind of just

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<v Speaker 3>grew up playing instruments.

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<v Speaker 1>Violin your choice or your folks.

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<v Speaker 3>My choice. I mean I just enjoyed playing it. And

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<v Speaker 3>then I kind of just switched over because I played

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<v Speaker 3>that for years and then from there I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna just you know, switch to something else. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's how I went from violin to you know, trumpet.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you had any part time jobs?

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<v Speaker 3>H one? I was working in the warehouse for one summer.

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<v Speaker 3>Was actually one of my dad's friends like years ago,

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<v Speaker 3>which was funny just because he was like fifty years

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<v Speaker 3>old and I was like fresh into you know, high

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<v Speaker 3>school working. But that was a fun job, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of just woke up early in the morning. Wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>like a nine to five, kind of just like nine

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<v Speaker 3>till like two o'clock and kind of just did whatever

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<v Speaker 3>we did, and the warehouse did different type of projects.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you like to spend your money on?

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<v Speaker 3>The usual clothes? Shoes? Have to pay the bills first

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<v Speaker 3>and foremost, down payment on homes and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>So final question, this one's kind of deep. If you

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<v Speaker 1>could meet anybody in history, living or deceased, who would

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<v Speaker 1>that person be?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I'm gonna just go with Chamberlain. I guess, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you have like one hundred points ones on?

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<v Speaker 3>He did so I guess Will Chamberlain.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. It's kind of an old school answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what one hundred points without a three point line,

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<v Speaker 3>that's I mean, that's kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Averaged fifty a game one season.

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<v Speaker 3>Really wow, I didn't know that, So yeah, you got

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<v Speaker 3>it me huh.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, an excellent answer. I appreciate your time, best

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<v Speaker 1>of luck the rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate you. Thank you.

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