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Speaker 2: announcements Before our guess interview, I like to hear your thoughts,
Speaker 2: Trey on the recent buzz suggesting that it may be
Speaker 2: time to blow up the Warriors.
Speaker 4: Are it's crazy? I saw that.
Speaker 1: I was like, I saw I saw something that had
Speaker 1: a trade packed with me and Steph package together.
Speaker 4: I said, damn man.
Speaker 1: That. I was like they gave reasoning behind it, and
Speaker 1: I was like, man, and yeah, I just don't know,
Speaker 1: like like Steph Curry is an All Star starter.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, and.
Speaker 1: I like to think I'm a halfway decent basketball player,
Speaker 1: and so I just don't know that the answer is
Speaker 1: like you got an All Star, Like if you say
Speaker 1: you want to be a good team, right, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure the answer is like trade away an All star starter. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's get past that. I'm also not sure the
Speaker 1: answer is trade away just at the trade deadline. Guys
Speaker 1: who've built a dynasty orzation that never had a dynasty,
Speaker 1: Like I don't think that's just the method of things.
Speaker 1: So I get his point, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I get his view banished point. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I understand what he's saying. I got what he was
Speaker 1: getting at. I'm just not sure that like that's what's
Speaker 1: going to happen at a trade deadline, Like that's kind
Speaker 1: of that's like something that like so many people have
Speaker 1: to talk just on a respect level and what's been built,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, to do something like that
Speaker 1: at a trade deadline, I just don't think.
Speaker 4: It's highly likely.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think it's just too many moving pieces,
Speaker 1: Like I just don't foresee to.
Speaker 4: Have not definitely not trade that line.
Speaker 2: But as far as you know that time, people are
Speaker 2: starting to say, oh it's that time, Like what other
Speaker 2: Warriors going to do? They've been hovering, they started out high,
Speaker 2: you know, but when I look at y'all season, I say,
Speaker 2: it's a this is gonna be your ultimate test, because
Speaker 2: once you guys get everybody back, y'all got to hit her.
Speaker 4: Y'all.
Speaker 2: Y'all, y'all just won six game, five game winning streak
Speaker 2: away from being back and forth, quiet building, and then
Speaker 2: you have the talent, right, Kaminga came a long way
Speaker 2: this year, right, especially with you out. I think his
Speaker 2: breakthrough game was the Clipper game I went to when
Speaker 2: he finally figured it out. I could do everything right offensively, defensively,
Speaker 2: you know. I think that he has so much more
Speaker 2: room to improve. I think the whole team got room
Speaker 2: to improve. But when you look at the injuries and
Speaker 2: how you guys have been injured, it's been staggering, and
Speaker 2: it's like staggering injuries. Right, get off to a good start,
Speaker 2: then everybody start falling off. First it was dmil Boom.
Speaker 2: Then that was just the Domino effective you know, to
Speaker 2: to estimate to the season. So I don't think personally
Speaker 2: that you're at the blow up fans. I think when
Speaker 2: you look at the record, you say, oh shit, they're
Speaker 2: in eleventh or tenth, but you're also three games out
Speaker 2: of fifth, but four games out of third, five games
Speaker 2: out of third or something like that. So I wouldn't panic,
Speaker 2: but I know, like long term people are thinking, oh,
Speaker 2: it may be time to blow up the Warriors. I
Speaker 2: feel like, just like I felt at the beginning of
Speaker 2: the year, you guys are right there talent wise with
Speaker 2: everybody else.
Speaker 1: There's not many teams that is from a talent perspective
Speaker 1: in the NBA. Cleveland has a good amount of talent. Okay,
Speaker 1: see obviously Boston right like, but most NBA teams in
Speaker 1: the talent pool is kind of like right there, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, is what y'all want it Like y'all
Speaker 1: wanted no super teams, y'all wanted, no dynasties, y'all wanted
Speaker 1: like fair play sight uh you know, like that's what
Speaker 1: everybody wanted, and that's essentially what you got. And then
Speaker 1: everybody saying the league ain't that fun like that like
Speaker 1: now you see, but like beggars can't be choosers, man,
Speaker 1: like you chose that you like, that's that's the game
Speaker 1: that everybody wanted, Like, oh, we don't want.
Speaker 4: To see Kevin Durant with the Warriors. We don't want to.
Speaker 1: See And now that you don't see those teams, it's
Speaker 1: not as exciting because you always speak about like those rivals,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like having those rivalries, it's
Speaker 1: hard to create that. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to
Speaker 1: create that. And so yeah, I definitely think we're still Hey,
Speaker 1: if I just look at the games, we've just completely
Speaker 1: blown this year, just those games, a long war spourth place,
Speaker 1: third place, that's for a games out there, we've completely
Speaker 1: just blown, like taking games light a match to it,
Speaker 1: like completely blown games. So just those alone, we're right there.
Speaker 1: And what does right there mean? Does that mean we're
Speaker 1: right there to win a championship? No, that's not what
Speaker 1: that means. That means we're right there with the rest
Speaker 1: of everyone else that's trying to figure it out, and
Speaker 1: we have a chance to figure it out, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna do that and we're going to go for that.
Speaker 1: So that's what it is. That's where it's at. That's
Speaker 1: what it's going to be for now, and we will
Speaker 1: continue on long term, long term. At some point. It's
Speaker 1: got the end, right, Like that's just some time, man,
Speaker 1: Like a long term it's ending for sure. Is it
Speaker 1: closer to the end than it is?
Speaker 2: Transformation? Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't not necessarily say you guys have the
Speaker 2: ability to create, to have a chance information.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, And that's kind of the whole idea of
Speaker 1: when you're going to two part timeline, right, like not
Speaker 1: just gonna go in all best because you know you're
Speaker 1: gonna bottom out with right, So you've go on this
Speaker 1: two part timeline. Right now, it's starting to get to
Speaker 1: that point of where you start to see it that's kind.
Speaker 4: Of what you were going for. So you still got
Speaker 4: to give that a chance to work.
Speaker 1: You can't just support mission because that a two timeline thing.
Speaker 1: That's not a one year thing. Like it takes time
Speaker 1: to build up guys to be ready to get at
Speaker 1: that level. So that's kind of what we went with.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of getting in that space now or
Speaker 1: where you see if it pans out ultimately, but you
Speaker 1: still you're still not at the point of where it's like,
Speaker 1: oh it was supposed to pan out this shit, Like,
Speaker 1: I think you're still in that room like Jonathan Cominga
Speaker 1: doesn't have a new contract, right, so you're still in
Speaker 1: that space.
Speaker 2: I think the smart teams make transformations. They don't blow
Speaker 2: things up and start over. Now, because if you blow
Speaker 2: something up up and start over, you have to get lucky.
Speaker 2: That means you got to have the number one pick
Speaker 2: when it's the number one pick, and it got to
Speaker 2: be a win, bey, it gotta be a you know,
Speaker 2: one of them ones. And then you have to have
Speaker 2: you have to rebuild. It takes you way longer to
Speaker 2: rebuild to be mediocre, right, or to be yell, to
Speaker 2: be mediocre and not make the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Then it takes you to transform to be in the
Speaker 2: top ten, which is still the playoff position, and be
Speaker 2: one or two players away from being in the top four.
Speaker 4: Yep, Yeah, that's the pact. Well said.
Speaker 2: And I like that too, that two part. I like
Speaker 2: what you said about that, like playing the two parts
Speaker 2: because that that's the transformation. As as two more years,
Speaker 2: those kids are going to be All Stars NF four
Speaker 2: Awards and they take the rain. And now you don't
Speaker 2: have to go and get veterans because your veterans are
Speaker 2: contribute high level. Like just like we talked you know
Speaker 2: on previous podcasts, you need vets to stabilize, but the
Speaker 2: vets are gonna win the playoffs for you.
Speaker 4: M M one bus right, So new.
Speaker 2: Terrain for them, all terrain for them. You know, it's
Speaker 2: it's they've been through it together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that.
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Speaker 1: We got an incredible guest today, the number one pick
Speaker 1: in the twenty ten.
Speaker 4: NBA Draft from the University of Kentucky.
Speaker 1: All NBA All Defensive Team member, five times NBA All Star,
Speaker 1: NBA Slam Dunk Champion, NOE.
Speaker 4: Another, the one and only Jay Wall. What's up, my brother?
Speaker 3: What's up? Saying? Much chilling? How you?
Speaker 4: Bro? I can't complain. I can't complain at all. Man.
Speaker 4: We appreciate you coming on, Bro.
Speaker 2: John Wall, my dog? What's up? Happy to hew you
Speaker 2: on the show. Bro, Happy to have you on the show.
Speaker 2: You know you know how I feel about you. You
Speaker 2: know you wanted the greats, you wanted a grace of
Speaker 2: your time. You're a game changer. You came in and
Speaker 2: I say, you know, you have the same kind of
Speaker 2: effect from the media side like a Alan Iverson when
Speaker 2: you think about social media and when you think about
Speaker 2: you know, uh, becoming an icon early right and being
Speaker 2: able to hold that carry that torch right and lead
Speaker 2: this new generation. I always look at you as you know,
Speaker 2: a legending of all right and a pioneer as far
Speaker 2: as being able to shepherd in this new energy of
Speaker 2: point guards right. The dudes is dunking guys with personality
Speaker 2: speaking quickness. You know, how do you guard somebody like that?
Speaker 2: Just wanted to just shout you out, man, Just give
Speaker 2: your flowers on the show, you know before we get going.
Speaker 3: Appreciate that. Appreciate that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fine, that's well, sir, brother. I'll tell you
Speaker 4: why BD. That was incredible. You had no choice.
Speaker 2: But to get that brothers flowers after he dunked on birthday.
Speaker 4: I'm watching this, Dre.
Speaker 2: You know what, Hey, Dre, I'm telling you it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a moment You're gonna be like, Okay, I'm on
Speaker 2: my way out.
Speaker 4: Damn. That was that was that moment. That's what you
Speaker 4: knew the end was there.
Speaker 2: I jumped on alive and I don't know why I
Speaker 2: jumped on a live like I wasn't gonna get the ball,
Speaker 2: but I didn't wasn't thinking nobody was.
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking like a guard man. This man jumped
Speaker 2: all over me, dog and I like that. Mike Bibbie,
Speaker 2: he was like, happy Birthday. I was like, this ship over, bro.
Speaker 4: Over you thought that ship was funny.
Speaker 2: Come bro, you thought that ship was funny?
Speaker 1: Oh man, So question how much money did you proceed
Speaker 1: to steal after that? If you knew that, if you
Speaker 1: knew right in that moment it was over, how much
Speaker 1: money did you proceed to still live?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: I was done, That was done. That was the year
Speaker 2: I got hurt here. Yeah, that's hey, bro. I just
Speaker 2: came back. So I was like, damn, I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2: I'm getting some minutes after that dunk, I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: I ain't got too much. Long's it's over. And it
Speaker 2: was over at the end of that year in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: It's fucked up, man. When you know you know you know.
Speaker 4: And j Watt that's your rookie year.
Speaker 7: No, hell no, not second year. That's my second that's
Speaker 7: the Yeah, that's my second year.
Speaker 4: No, that's probably like your third year.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 4: Now you're trying to don't try to advance them a launch.
Speaker 4: I was just starting.
Speaker 2: Man, it had to be a star year because I
Speaker 2: remember I think it was his rookie year or second
Speaker 2: year rookie.
Speaker 7: I had him zig takes on him hot top, So
Speaker 7: I know it wasn't that. I ain't had him on
Speaker 7: it me now, but.
Speaker 4: I played against sa I played.
Speaker 1: Say they may say the year on this clip, give
Speaker 1: me one second.
Speaker 4: The rookie, Now that was another person that was what year?
Speaker 1: How far apartment Huge Singleton is a rookie on this clip,
Speaker 1: it's like a huge that's my second year.
Speaker 7: I think exactly thinks because that's what because I remember
Speaker 7: when when uh it's Mellow me Melo on the knicks
Speaker 7: right now right.
Speaker 1: Uh, I see I see shump, I see shump, I
Speaker 1: see that out the twelve.
Speaker 4: That's yeah, I see Mellow.
Speaker 7: That's the year Mellow came to the y'all came to
Speaker 7: the d C and Mellow had like twenty straight like
Speaker 7: ago in the second second, Quardy for having Chris like
Speaker 7: don't see no.
Speaker 4: Help on.
Speaker 7: We need to see in double This ain't no Florida
Speaker 7: State where you got boxes and elbows.
Speaker 3: And we just sat there watching get abused in the
Speaker 3: mid post for four minutes straight. Drake who was the.
Speaker 7: Coach ye had four fouls going into the halftime, was
Speaker 7: Flip still the coach. I think flipsids wist of the coach.
Speaker 7: If nah, I think that's when Randy Whitman took over.
Speaker 4: That's old school NBA though, Bro, if you're that's what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 7: When I came in there was like listen, we talked coach, listen,
Speaker 7: we ain't help you if you get.
Speaker 3: He said, he don't need no help.
Speaker 4: Don't leave him on, Bro, that's what you don't do.
Speaker 1: I'm we keep talking about what these guys don't go
Speaker 1: through now in the NBA. And that's another one of
Speaker 1: those things, bro, Like rookies don't get thrown in the
Speaker 1: fire and be like yo, you go stop that guy there,
Speaker 1: Like if a rookie can't guard, they're going to try
Speaker 1: to hide the rookie like it's crazy, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Or like yo, they'll try to go zone
Speaker 1: and as opposed to like Chris Singleton, a guy who
Speaker 1: actually wasn't a good defender his years in the league.
Speaker 1: Right here as a rookie getting cooked for sure, right,
Speaker 1: and y'all just like, no, that that is what that's
Speaker 1: old NBA.
Speaker 4: Bro, It ain't like that. He asked me that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then they run his own they showing on screens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's way different. But I do remember I
Speaker 2: think I was in Golden State. It was your rookie year,
Speaker 2: and we was beating the crap out of yard Man,
Speaker 2: and I don't know what you did, but you just
Speaker 2: kept getting the ball out of bounds.
Speaker 4: Remember that he was going one on.
Speaker 2: One on five, fast breaking. Nobody could stay in front
Speaker 2: of him. Coach called three timeouts. It was like, nobody
Speaker 2: can stop him. So he well, shoot bull, say we score.
Speaker 2: He'll get the ball right down the court and he
Speaker 2: was trying to bring him back. I damn near dove
Speaker 2: in front of you, bro, just to try, and.
Speaker 4: There was no way.
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, dude, I ain't never seen nobody this,
Speaker 2: This was crazy. I ain't never seen nobody that fast
Speaker 2: in my life. The Warriors and speed, Hey, bro, he
Speaker 2: was everybody on the team. Nobody could stop him. That
Speaker 2: shit was wild j Wall.
Speaker 1: Have you seen anybody in the NBA uh from baseline
Speaker 1: the baseline as fast as you either after you for.
Speaker 7: The only one I could compare, you know, like you
Speaker 7: know how this hit everybody trying to compare somebody to somebody.
Speaker 7: Only guy seen that's like close to me, I say,
Speaker 7: Darren Fox, he's just left crazy, like I wondered. I
Speaker 7: remember I forgot what he was. Was in Houston about
Speaker 7: to play. We had a day off for the game.
Speaker 7: I went, I drove like an hour trial to go
Speaker 7: watch him blame Wow, And I was like, you know what,
Speaker 7: this is the one kid I can say is close
Speaker 7: to what I could see in myself because I was
Speaker 7: basical supposed to be left handed, but he was really
Speaker 7: left fit.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, this is the only guy I seen
Speaker 3: that was close to me with that type of speed.
Speaker 7: Like, don't get me wrong, you know like d Rose
Speaker 7: is quick, Like his quick is on the whole other level,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. I feel like Jah got
Speaker 7: a different type of quick, but they don't have that
Speaker 7: speed to go baseline and base.
Speaker 4: That's a different speed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I say, the only one I can say
Speaker 3: is darreon Fox.
Speaker 4: Speaking of d Rose. It's funny.
Speaker 1: I was just about to ask you a question about
Speaker 1: d Rose just and you know, enlighten him just retiring.
Speaker 1: You coming into the league where like prime d Row,
Speaker 1: not even prime d Rolls because I would say, like
Speaker 1: he never got the opportunity to really reach his prime,
Speaker 1: but what we know in his career is prime d Rolls.
Speaker 1: You coming into the league, what was those matchups like
Speaker 1: you with the because the thing about your speed was
Speaker 1: it was speed, but your speed was powerful. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you played with so much force
Speaker 1: to where it just wasn't like like the Aaron Fox
Speaker 1: speed was like he still got it, but he played
Speaker 1: with way more pace now, but like his speed was
Speaker 1: just like fast speed. I feel like yours was like fast,
Speaker 1: but it was also like powerful. And coming into the
Speaker 1: league with a guy like d Rose that, like you said,
Speaker 1: quick but also powerful. What was those matchups like early
Speaker 1: on in your career against d Row?
Speaker 3: I tell you this, my rookie, it was AVVP year
Speaker 3: for him.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 7: Just to be honest, but I mean we played in preseason.
Speaker 7: I was just like, damn, this might be like the
Speaker 7: first guy say this quicker faster than me? I mean
Speaker 7: just because he's already been in the league. He already
Speaker 7: had his twitch, He already had to know what he
Speaker 7: wanted to do. Because me, like when I watched him
Speaker 7: play in college, I forget that it's playing Tennessee. I'm
Speaker 7: Olklahoma in the garden and I was like, this is
Speaker 7: where I'm going to school. Like when I seen that
Speaker 7: game and I seen him play Tennessee in Memphis, I
Speaker 7: already knew in my mind, I'm going to play for
Speaker 7: coach Kyle just because the way he allowed the Rose
Speaker 7: to play, I knew I played a similar way. But
Speaker 7: when I was in the league, like I always tell
Speaker 7: you people, it's three people, that was like three people
Speaker 7: three to four people hard as me Kyrie because he
Speaker 7: could do everything, scoring every level, but the hardest person
Speaker 7: I had problems with.
Speaker 3: With d Rose.
Speaker 7: It was a problem because you got to think with
Speaker 7: Tim system, everybody around him was located to play defense,
Speaker 7: and he was to get the ball, get the ball,
Speaker 7: and you couldn't stop. It's unlimited pick and rolls. He's
Speaker 7: scoring that wheel. And you look at any other guards
Speaker 7: that played for Tim, they all got that freedom. But
Speaker 7: you know, d Road just on a different level. And
Speaker 7: like I said, like I always say, like you you know,
Speaker 7: injuries are part of the game. But I feel like
Speaker 7: if he ain't never had no injuries, Bro, we wouldn't
Speaker 7: even be talking about a lot of these other guards
Speaker 7: the way we do.
Speaker 4: That's interesting.
Speaker 7: That's because a lot of guys was acting like they
Speaker 7: were sick when he came into Yeah, I got an
Speaker 7: ankle injury, I got the flu like he was.
Speaker 3: He was scaring people he was. I look and I
Speaker 3: look at it.
Speaker 7: Like my third year, I kind of realized to build
Speaker 7: my competence to another level, like I really can go
Speaker 7: at this guy total toe mm hmm man.
Speaker 3: First time. Rickie y'all was like, man, this is right.
Speaker 3: These guys different.
Speaker 1: It's always interesting to think, like, what what does the
Speaker 1: the guard race, if you will, or the guard outlook like,
Speaker 1: the outlook on the position look like if a d
Speaker 1: Rose never got hurt, you know, if a Penny never
Speaker 1: got hurt, Right, John, you never got hurt like you got.
Speaker 1: I don't think people realize you got hurt right in
Speaker 1: the middle of your prime and then like and we'll
Speaker 1: get into the entries to it later, but I always wonder, like,
Speaker 1: what does the guard position look like at that and
Speaker 1: never what does the rap game look like if get
Speaker 1: your pock can never get killed? Right, like you always
Speaker 1: had those what if of like you see how it
Speaker 1: played out right like Steph's Steph's golded like Russ like yeah, yourself,
Speaker 1: like the work everybody put in. But you just always
Speaker 1: wonder if it looks different at all if d Rose
Speaker 1: never gets hurt, like why does that pan out?
Speaker 3: It's interesting, to be honest, I feel like, man, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 7: It's like you said, like they were so close to
Speaker 7: getting close to the championship in the East, like if
Speaker 7: he don't get hurt, like how they was giving Miami
Speaker 7: or Run everything. I mean when they started to get
Speaker 7: to that point, he was right there on they toes
Speaker 7: So and then you had Indiana, you know, like with
Speaker 7: Paul George's there.
Speaker 3: So it's just like you said, you just never really
Speaker 3: know what could have happened or what would have went
Speaker 3: on for sure.
Speaker 7: But you know, I mean, like you say, you definitely
Speaker 7: got to get the Roses Flowers bro because being the
Speaker 7: Young's MVP, having the battles against him and it was
Speaker 7: it was super exciting to see him go through the
Speaker 7: journey he did and fighting back, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: I watched the game and he had his first fifty
Speaker 7: point game and breaking down in tears. And I've been
Speaker 7: watching a lot, you know, he never really talked, so
Speaker 7: I watched a lot of his podcasts, you having. I mean,
Speaker 7: he was talking about like when you realize he was
Speaker 7: injured with his toy. Ah, I had to come back,
Speaker 7: Like people don't realize that's.
Speaker 4: The hardest thing.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 7: Now you be on top of the world and then
Speaker 7: you just feel like you hit rock bottom and you
Speaker 7: just got to get through that. And everybody thinks everything's
Speaker 7: fine because we make the money and we live in
Speaker 7: his letter's life, but the game we love is taken
Speaker 7: away from us for the time being. So you got
Speaker 7: to fight your ass off to get back to even
Speaker 7: feel like you one hundred percent healthy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that happened to me, you know, but I was.
Speaker 2: I watched college but in college, right, and it's a
Speaker 2: lonely island, especially as a point guard when you're an
Speaker 2: explosive point guard, because now you have to figure out
Speaker 2: a different way to jump, a different way to land,
Speaker 2: you know, uh, how to you gotta change your game.
Speaker 4: And I was going to ask you that you know.
Speaker 2: As you came into the league, you know as fast, explosive,
Speaker 2: one man, fast break. Talk about, you know, the step
Speaker 2: of how you evolved right from a point guard perspective
Speaker 2: from like year one, because you made the leap from
Speaker 2: year one to year three to being dominant, right, talk
Speaker 2: about that process.
Speaker 7: I think, like really just man like having Sam Cancell around,
Speaker 7: you know, I mean him being my coach, Like he
Speaker 7: was the master of a mid range. So he was like, yo,
Speaker 7: you can't outrun everybody because I'll be pushing the breaking
Speaker 7: Like damn where everybody at they not even fast half
Speaker 7: the court.
Speaker 1: Yees.
Speaker 7: So he was like, you got to slow down, like
Speaker 7: you got to figure it out. So just watching film
Speaker 7: with him and understand like you had the master the
Speaker 7: mid range. But like I always told you my whole life,
Speaker 7: I never had to shoot, like I always got wherever
Speaker 7: I wanted. I mean no matter if I played up
Speaker 7: or played I never tried to play my age, I
Speaker 7: played up. I always got wherever I want, even in college,
Speaker 7: like they go zone or by, I find ways to
Speaker 7: get there because we were just so talented. But in
Speaker 7: the league, we had real power for real center. So
Speaker 7: nobody you might probably shoot ten threes, eleven threes a
Speaker 7: whole game. So your most mid range was your form me.
Speaker 7: So the paint is back and then you come across
Speaker 7: the lane, they're hitting you. So just just working with
Speaker 7: Sam a lot, working with Robin Clinam at the time,
Speaker 7: that was d Roads, you know, Kevin love Russ, Kevin Durant,
Speaker 7: all those guys. Trainer, just teaching me the basic like, yo,
Speaker 7: you just got to slow down. You got to be
Speaker 7: a knocked down the mid range because no, he was
Speaker 7: going on these screens. It's to race to the basket.
Speaker 7: I feel like I can get there every time, but
Speaker 7: I might have a seven foot of there. So just
Speaker 7: learn that, like learning how to change my pace and
Speaker 7: learn how to knock down the mid range a lot
Speaker 7: more with confident. I think that made my game evolved.
Speaker 7: Like I was always good at passing, always trying to
Speaker 7: get my teammates involved in finding those guys because I
Speaker 7: knew in the fourth quarter, if I passed the bar
Speaker 7: early on in the fourth quarter, you can't double team
Speaker 7: as much because my teammates have the confidence to make
Speaker 7: these open shots instead of them only getting the ball
Speaker 7: in the fourth quarter and they're like, damn Bro, I
Speaker 7: don't got no rhythm. So that's kind of how to
Speaker 7: my development. Just working with Sam a lot, working on
Speaker 7: my mid range, working on changing pace, and just watching
Speaker 7: film Bro, and just watching how teams.
Speaker 2: Was guarding on the side note, I wanted to, you know, like,
Speaker 2: what was your favorite memory? You know you talk about
Speaker 2: Derek Bros. What was your favorite memory about playing against Draymond?
Speaker 7: I know every time you played against Draymond, he was
Speaker 7: always gonna be somewhere and I was getting He switched
Speaker 7: on me, he gonna talk a little shit while he
Speaker 7: guarded me. But we had we had a funny bra.
Speaker 7: I remember that, Bro. We had the money to go
Speaker 7: to say, listen, I got bully, b.
Speaker 2: Bully.
Speaker 4: Brad wanted to be a bully. That night, I got bullied.
Speaker 1: I tried not to let myself get slammed, let myself
Speaker 1: get slammed, and I still got fined thirty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 7: And then on top of that, I run over there
Speaker 7: to see what's going on and I get punched by
Speaker 7: by my teammate. I looked bad, like, damn one stole me.
Speaker 7: It's my own team. I said, I ain't going no
Speaker 7: fight with me.
Speaker 4: I was getting down like that.
Speaker 7: Just but I just think just I mean, I think
Speaker 7: Draymond just get credited dis credit for a lot of
Speaker 7: stuff you do. But he plays with that old school
Speaker 7: and you know what I mean, Like he comes with
Speaker 7: that grit and grind, like he's probably been a twenty
Speaker 7: point score in high school, and I mean, go to college,
Speaker 7: things change to get your league. Not playing early on,
Speaker 7: he find his role, he find his niche, and that's
Speaker 7: being his being a dog for being a yard lphs team.
Speaker 7: But on the also on the other end, on the
Speaker 7: office end, he's a point forward. He can run his offense,
Speaker 7: run his team. So I think every night going against Draymond,
Speaker 7: we couldn't really put our five men on him, which
Speaker 7: most teams try to do, because if you try to
Speaker 7: pick and roll with Steph, he's good at passing, throwing
Speaker 7: lives and finding shooters. So you got to try to
Speaker 7: go small, but that shit don't work because he's still
Speaker 7: gonna post up and find ways to do it. So
Speaker 7: I think, just going to get Dreymond, we know he
Speaker 7: was gonna bring defensively his intensity and if you try
Speaker 7: to get him in fire, this only way he kind
Speaker 7: of beat the Warriors because when he in, he makes
Speaker 7: their whole show goal Like we know step is this
Speaker 7: great and that goal. We know what Clay was and
Speaker 7: but he was just a glue guy to it for
Speaker 7: me too. When we played them, we had the key
Speaker 7: on him because he makes the whole shit go.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I know ye, I always tell
Speaker 3: you that.
Speaker 4: Favorite moment was playing against you.
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 4: Do you remember when Jamond Green dunk Tony.
Speaker 3: Showing down bringing mccliff.
Speaker 1: Oh hey, hey, hey, no file, Oh look at that
Speaker 1: at the end speaking were talking about John Walls speed.
Speaker 4: Did you just see where I started from? Okay, he
Speaker 4: took down, he took off.
Speaker 3: Drake got it, Yeah, Drake got Drake got some sneaky
Speaker 3: balance down here, dunk something.
Speaker 2: Thank you Jamon, because he got Hey, I got see.
Speaker 3: Hey, y'all showing that. Y'all got to show me show
Speaker 3: me out.
Speaker 4: That was I was nice. It was like, oh ship,
Speaker 4: it was like, oh ship, you gotta show him that.
Speaker 4: Charles b. D. You had no business joke.
Speaker 2: I ain't think he was gonna jump man jump. I
Speaker 2: don't know what the funk I was thinking, you know
Speaker 2: what that's called. It was my birthday too, Bro. That's
Speaker 2: called getting old.
Speaker 7: But I didn't think he was gonna jump. I just
Speaker 7: told you I'm in the garden. I needed some highlight.
Speaker 7: We're getting spanked anyway.
Speaker 2: Man, I was gonna knock the ball. I thought I
Speaker 2: tied it. Oh yeah, Mike, Mike Bibby over there crying.
Speaker 1: Duh.
Speaker 4: That is hilarious. Man.
Speaker 2: That's the only time I got dunktown like that. All right, Charles,
Speaker 2: that's enough, dog, Okay. I never forget that, man, I
Speaker 2: never forget that. I never show my son either.
Speaker 3: Well you know you too.
Speaker 4: We can't.
Speaker 3: Ron might be the only one get stuff deleted off youto.
Speaker 4: Off YouTube. Yea, yeah, when burn, he tried to burn.
Speaker 3: They gotta go, We gotta go.
Speaker 4: Cut that video. Gotta be somewhere in the world.
Speaker 3: Now. Somebody brought up and somebody they they found. Bron
Speaker 3: ain't get this in the go with, like I ain't
Speaker 3: seen it in years. They found and and.
Speaker 2: It's and it's super jan Ki. The way they filmed it, like.
Speaker 3: The film is like behind the basket, you don't even
Speaker 3: know what's going on.
Speaker 2: I feel Brown probably put that out itself, like this
Speaker 2: is this is the blurry edited version let me then
Speaker 2: drop this Draymond know he knows that's just dumb. We
Speaker 2: mentioned you as a Slam Dug champion, and I'll be
Speaker 2: one of the judges this year for the Slam Dunk Contest.
Speaker 2: Why do you think superstar players haven't haven't recently wanted
Speaker 2: to participate in the Dunk Contest?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I think they should though, you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: Like I think like the older they did, Like I
Speaker 7: ain't really want to do it, but I told, I said,
Speaker 7: if I make the All Star Game, I get in
Speaker 7: the Dunk Contest, you know what I mean. And it
Speaker 7: was different, Don't get me wrong, I'm gonna take my win,
Speaker 7: but it was instead of the year I did it.
Speaker 3: They want the regular way.
Speaker 7: But I never did that dump before neither, but one time,
Speaker 7: like the day before I tried and I was like, man, shit,
Speaker 7: I don't got nothing else to do. This is gonna
Speaker 7: win there, We're gonna be losing. But I think all
Speaker 7: the stars should get into it. Like I think that's
Speaker 7: what made All Star wee get in fun.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 7: You're saying all the grace that was going in the
Speaker 7: All Star Game to be in a dunk contest. That's
Speaker 7: what people want to see, you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: Like you got so many John Morant, you, I mean
Speaker 7: you had Lebron, you got Giant, you got all these
Speaker 7: great stars that be in an All Star Game that
Speaker 7: they usually be in a dunk contest, And I think
Speaker 7: you got to kind of try to get back to
Speaker 7: it because a lot of the guys that get in it,
Speaker 7: they're in the league. We know who they are, but
Speaker 7: they not like the name that everybody wants go see
Speaker 7: and be cited. I think probably you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: Dre We was there. I thinking the best one we
Speaker 7: had in the wow was when it here, and you
Speaker 7: know that if he went back to back like that
Speaker 7: was the best one. That you gotta have those type
Speaker 7: of guys that's doing shit. We ain't ever seen if
Speaker 7: you ain't gonna have the stars any But it's kind
Speaker 7: of like you run out of options, Like what more
Speaker 7: tricks can we really come up with?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you what would you do to
Speaker 2: get them to what would you say, like, what would
Speaker 2: you do to get them to compete?
Speaker 7: I don't think you could do anything because they weren't
Speaker 7: doing it before the damn for sure not doing it.
Speaker 2: You know if when you look back in the league,
Speaker 2: the reason why the dunk contests, to your point, the Superstars,
Speaker 2: even if they got in the dunk contest and didn't
Speaker 2: want to do it, like, they still gave the fans something.
Speaker 2: And then that name, that next name became a name,
Speaker 2: right like a spug Web, right like spug Web became
Speaker 2: a thing and became a name because all the top
Speaker 2: dogs still got in the dunk contest even if they
Speaker 2: wasn't tripping. And so I think, you know, it's an
Speaker 2: entertainment cadence too that go along with this kind of
Speaker 2: like a passing of the torch or all these dudes around,
Speaker 2: you know, a young dude like what's his name for
Speaker 2: the Clippers who won the dunk contest, Yeah, Dale Jones.
Speaker 2: Like that type of energy right around these young dudes
Speaker 2: even this year, like finding a way to get this,
Speaker 2: you know, to get get them some more exposure. I
Speaker 2: like it be like, oh who is that? Like we
Speaker 2: know who these dudes are, but who is that? And
Speaker 2: you know that's the person who wind up winning and
Speaker 2: getting the name. That's how d Brown got off, right,
Speaker 2: It wasn't because he was you know, killer, like are
Speaker 2: just killing He got on because you know the dunk
Speaker 2: contests and got his name.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think like if Johonna Kaminga won't hurt like
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, you see him probably do some.
Speaker 7: I feel like he'd be one of those guys that,
Speaker 7: like people like to see him because the dunky due
Speaker 7: during the season, if he was healthy, if he got
Speaker 7: in there, because I see him in my tournament and
Speaker 7: my hosty tournament. It's stuff I see him do. I'm like,
Speaker 7: he would be somebody that's a name that's right there
Speaker 7: that people are starting to hear about.
Speaker 3: They can take that next jump to put him in
Speaker 3: that spotlight.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I think, uh like for for young
Speaker 1: guys like JK. I think the thing that and isn't
Speaker 1: just him, I just think as a whole, Like the
Speaker 1: thing that those guys don't understand is if they do
Speaker 1: like the dunk contest, what it can do for their
Speaker 1: personal brands.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So everybody, we live in this day and age where
Speaker 1: all of these young guys want to want to kind
Speaker 1: of push their own personal brands, right, but you have
Speaker 1: these these rare instances like an NBA all Star. I mean,
Speaker 1: like a dunk contest that you can do, like Mac
Speaker 1: McClung became somebody doing the dunk contest, not even in
Speaker 1: the NBA, you know what I'm saying. So that just
Speaker 1: for what it could do for guy's personal brands, you
Speaker 1: would think that more young guys would do it for
Speaker 1: that reason. You know, before Zach Lavine ever became an
Speaker 1: All Star, he was at the dunk contest and made
Speaker 1: a name for himself, you know. And and so I
Speaker 1: think young guys miss out on that side of it
Speaker 1: when when they decide not to do it, I think
Speaker 1: they're leaving a massive opportunity on the table.
Speaker 4: I agree, speaking of.
Speaker 1: All Star Weekend in general, for like your All Star appearances,
Speaker 1: the game was still better like it like it wasn't.
Speaker 2: The best, but it was still competitive, competitive like entertaining.
Speaker 2: I would say, what what would you.
Speaker 1: Say has to happen today to get the game back good?
Speaker 1: Like the game last year? The game was patic, Like
Speaker 1: what do you think has to happen to get the
Speaker 1: game back good?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I think like they they try to do like a
Speaker 7: total score every quarter, like every half or something like.
Speaker 7: I think they just got to go back east verse west,
Speaker 7: you know, I mean to me, I like, you should
Speaker 7: go east verse west. But it's hard to see, man,
Speaker 7: Like I don't know, how can you raise the stakes
Speaker 7: to get everybody want to compete, you know, I mean
Speaker 7: because if your star stars, like the guys that we
Speaker 7: want to go see ain't competing at a high level,
Speaker 7: it's kind of.
Speaker 2: It's too everybody too friendly, Like it's.
Speaker 7: Like everybody just everybody too well, I'm gonna let you
Speaker 7: shoot twenty three or I'm gonna let you get ninety
Speaker 7: dunks and go get fifty points. Like it's like it's
Speaker 7: no pride into it, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 7: you know, I mean earlier on you might get a
Speaker 7: little bit of showcase here and there, but like you
Speaker 7: still want to keep the game closer.
Speaker 3: Then you know, we knew it going into the fourth
Speaker 3: quarter is go time. We're trying to win. But like
Speaker 3: now it's just like you might be down fifty by
Speaker 3: the third quarter.
Speaker 7: I don't know, it's kind of hard to say because
Speaker 7: I like you probably wanted to like how can you
Speaker 7: get the game back? And I'm like, I think you're
Speaker 7: just slipping away, Like I think they got like a
Speaker 7: new format this year, right, that a new format.
Speaker 3: It's like like if the Rookie Sophomore Game, whoever win
Speaker 3: that one played so try.
Speaker 4: Yeah you know what I mean instead of watching it.
Speaker 7: But you're giving the rookies and sophomores the opportunity to
Speaker 7: feel like, oh well, I'm all star.
Speaker 3: Like could for them.
Speaker 7: If they get the opportunity to play against the real start,
Speaker 7: they're gonna feel like they all stars at the time being.
Speaker 3: I mean, so they gotta find a way.
Speaker 2: What does happen?
Speaker 3: They're gonna keep losing the fans. I think, like the
Speaker 3: rookie sawhomore play each other.
Speaker 1: So the way is so you know, it's twenty four
Speaker 1: All Stars, twelve from the East, twelve from the West.
Speaker 1: There will be three teams of eight and they all
Speaker 1: make up three teams and then the uh the Rookie
Speaker 1: All Star Game is doing the same thing.
Speaker 4: It's like three teams of eight or something like that,
Speaker 4: and the winner of their.
Speaker 1: Little bracket it's going to be the fourth team versus
Speaker 1: the three teams a eight All Star.
Speaker 2: Wow, and they'll play like some game. But don't they
Speaker 2: like one team play a game, they go to the locker,
Speaker 2: come back. Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be hard to get
Speaker 2: all stars to one play eight minutes, then go on
Speaker 2: the locker chill and wait for another.
Speaker 3: Then check out.
Speaker 4: I mean they gonna be checked out.
Speaker 2: But what's missing think is an old school way and
Speaker 2: nobody had no no beef with each other. Nobody really like, oh,
Speaker 2: I get double teams, so you know you can't double
Speaker 2: team now, kind of like that mano, ain't mano? Right,
Speaker 2: it's none of that. There's no beef, there's no you know,
Speaker 2: nobody like. There's nobody antagonizing the opportunity to get people
Speaker 2: rowed up to go at each other. Nobody goes at
Speaker 2: each other. And so at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: if everybody to jump point, if you cool and everything cool,
Speaker 2: and what we're watching is a lot of threes dunks,
Speaker 2: and you know, kids are like, man, I can go
Speaker 2: do that outside with three people, right, it always looks
Speaker 2: like three people on the court and never like a
Speaker 2: full court game. So they got to make it a
Speaker 2: full court five on five. The best players playing against
Speaker 2: the best players just for reasons for names alone. And
Speaker 2: I want to make sure that people know I'm the
Speaker 2: best shooting guard, I'm the best playing guard. I think
Speaker 2: that's what that was your that was the last era
Speaker 2: of like yo time, John. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you win each other like I don't like you
Speaker 7: throughout the season, and then I think like with these teams,
Speaker 7: like I might have be with you, I might don't
Speaker 7: want to pay against I'm just put you on my team,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. But I feel like the
Speaker 7: one person that can not one person could change the
Speaker 7: All Star form of that how they do it. But
Speaker 7: I feel like the one kid I know that God
Speaker 7: isn't man. Yes, Like I feel like he gonna find
Speaker 7: somebody he's starting, or I'm gonna find somebody I don't
Speaker 7: like and I'm going at him, you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: Like you need.
Speaker 3: That type of competitives, like I mean, just what you need.
Speaker 7: I mean, I feel like if he go against KD
Speaker 7: or if he go against Deep Book, or he go
Speaker 7: against Donovan Mitchell, whoever the next two guard is, he's
Speaker 7: trying to let them know, like I'm the best two
Speaker 7: guard in the league. And I feel like he can
Speaker 7: bring that to the All Star Game. But I don't
Speaker 7: feel like he's at the level now where everybody will
Speaker 7: follow along. You know what I mean, but I feel
Speaker 7: like he can get there at some point, but you
Speaker 7: hopefully assume so that the All Star Games don't kind
Speaker 7: of go away with people just like me. Know what,
Speaker 7: I don't even care about it on the weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 7: we used to wait. We used to couldn't wait till Sunday, Like, man,
Speaker 7: all ready for this game? Now is like Sunday people
Speaker 7: want to lead. They don't even care about going to
Speaker 7: the game.
Speaker 1: And I think I think one of the things, you know,
Speaker 1: that the NBA has to realize is also like when
Speaker 1: the games were good and the games were competitive, you
Speaker 1: also have to remember, like DD back inyall time, the
Speaker 1: prep that y'all have for to get ready for a
Speaker 1: game and the prep that guys have today are totally different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's osteos. You know that you got pts,
Speaker 1: Like you have a whole different type of prep now
Speaker 1: for games than when then back in the day.
Speaker 4: And so I think that's a huge part of it.
Speaker 1: Like I think the NBA need to prioritize YO for
Speaker 1: every one of these guys, who gets them ready for
Speaker 1: games during the season. Okay, I know that pers's supposed
Speaker 1: to be on All Star I'm going to pay them
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars extra, ten thousand dollars extra to be
Speaker 1: at All Start weekend to prep Steph Curry to be
Speaker 1: at All Star Weekend to prep, you know, and to
Speaker 1: make sure every single guy has their prep. Now, with
Speaker 1: that being said, no other requirements from All Stars. There's
Speaker 1: no other requirements.
Speaker 4: If you do some.
Speaker 1: Personal requirement, you know, some personal things that you want
Speaker 1: to do, then do that. But there's zero other requirements
Speaker 1: from All Star. The only thing you are here at
Speaker 1: All Star Weekend to do is to be ready to
Speaker 1: compete in this game.
Speaker 4: Get your body ready to play at a high level.
Speaker 4: And I think that's what the NBA need to do.
Speaker 1: They need to make because to John's point, by the
Speaker 1: time you get to the game Sunday night, you've done
Speaker 1: so much. You've had so many obligations that it's like,
Speaker 1: oh now we got the game, like man, get me
Speaker 1: out of here. But as opposed to if you don't
Speaker 1: have anything on the weekend, like nothing, no requirements. You
Speaker 1: got this game in the NBA, but you can't make
Speaker 1: it so corporate though, So you got to pick what
Speaker 1: you want, right, Do you want a great game or
Speaker 1: do you want this corporate thing where all the All
Speaker 1: Stars are here, And I think they need to make
Speaker 1: that decision because right now the game is suffering and
Speaker 1: guys live like it's just different now.
Speaker 4: It was used to.
Speaker 1: Just on that vibe.
Speaker 4: It used to be a thing.
Speaker 2: You look forward to the game, right You're gonna get
Speaker 2: some dudes, gonna get the big dogs, gonna get their rest,
Speaker 2: the new guys.
Speaker 4: Gonna be out trying to get their name up.
Speaker 2: But you knew you had to show up to practice,
Speaker 2: media day and probably one or two appearances, that's it.
Speaker 2: But now you look at you know, the game is
Speaker 2: so global, the responsibility on these dudes, the attention on
Speaker 2: these dudes that they kind of just want to not
Speaker 2: be seen and chill, like All Star Weekend was like
Speaker 2: it used to be rest, but you treated it like
Speaker 2: it was another game, like this is the game I'm
Speaker 2: playing with all the Juggernauts, like let me show who
Speaker 2: I am. And I don't think people get we're not.
Speaker 2: We're not setting our guys up for that or setting
Speaker 2: them up to fight that should be the best fight,
Speaker 2: the most entertaining fight.
Speaker 1: Moving on, we had you spoke about Sam Cassell and
Speaker 1: the impact you know that he had your on your game,
Speaker 1: We had him on the pile. He shared the story
Speaker 1: about you getting emotional after losing twenty five games when
Speaker 1: it wasn't even December yet.
Speaker 4: Tell your story.
Speaker 8: John Wall his rookie year, he lost eight games from
Speaker 8: high school to college two years knocked my daughter strolling
Speaker 8: up John Wall in tears, in tears trying he lost
Speaker 8: twenty five games. It ain't December. He asked me, say, og,
Speaker 8: is it gonna get any better? You as any guys ever? Coach,
Speaker 8: I'm not a lot to you. I ain't a lot
Speaker 8: to you. I ain't a lot to you, I said,
Speaker 8: looked them in the face, like come on, I say no,
Speaker 8: and guess what, Jada, I throw them a tie.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: I say, it's gonna be bad next year too, but
Speaker 4: we gotta grow. You gotta keep working.
Speaker 1: Can you walk us through that moment during your rookie year.
Speaker 7: I ain't gonna lie, man. We went on the road,
Speaker 7: we probably lost like twenty four straight. I'm like, what
Speaker 7: the hell is this mine? You know, like my whole life,
Speaker 7: I probably never lost that many games. Like in one
Speaker 7: year I just left college, lost three games and they
Speaker 7: called it the Dodo bo bo, You're playing Cleveland. They
Speaker 7: lost twenty four straight games completely and we lost twenty
Speaker 7: four straight on the road, so were just like, man,
Speaker 7: we gotta win this game. We finally get a win.
Speaker 7: I was like, is this how I go? I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 7: we're gonna lose like this. Can y'all just pay me?
Speaker 3: And I go back to like, yeah, we make this
Speaker 3: work some ways up and I'm like, how long is
Speaker 3: gonna last?
Speaker 1: Ye?
Speaker 7: Like probably about two more years. You gotta draft some
Speaker 7: more guys. We gotta hopefully trade for some people. And
Speaker 7: I'm like, bro, the league is not like this. I'm like,
Speaker 7: there's no way people don't care about because you know,
Speaker 7: you first come in, you're just looking like I know
Speaker 7: people care about the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like we losing.
Speaker 7: We're grown like we outside, Like, bro, I don't want
Speaker 7: to be seeing we just lost by thirty, Like I
Speaker 7: want to order room service. I don't want to be
Speaker 7: seen in the bar nowhere downstairs. But like, it just
Speaker 7: taught me a lot because I had a lot of
Speaker 7: good vets though throughout the years, you know, I mean,
Speaker 7: like you good and Trevor Reza, Al Harrington, Andre Miller,
Speaker 7: Paul Pierce just always talking to me just before there
Speaker 7: was my teammates like after game that come whisper to
Speaker 7: my ear life. Just stay the court, just continue to work,
Speaker 7: like it get better at some point. And I think
Speaker 7: that kind of helped me a lot because I wasn't
Speaker 7: used to losing that much and I wasn't used to
Speaker 7: like being that type of environment. But I think just
Speaker 7: having great vets around understand that I was willing to work,
Speaker 7: I was willing to listen. I wasn't scared to ask questions.
Speaker 7: That kind of helped me pay my way to figure
Speaker 7: it out throughout the league.
Speaker 1: Did you ever get used to the loser? Like do
Speaker 1: you feel like at some point you ever like just
Speaker 1: like you know what it is? What it or did
Speaker 1: you ever know?
Speaker 3: I kind of knew going like you know, you go
Speaker 3: high pick, You're not going to really go to a
Speaker 3: good team.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't like it. I appreciate that I wouldn't know.
Speaker 7: I was like, I know, it's like going to a
Speaker 7: rebuild process, you know what I mean. So I'm just
Speaker 7: like all right, you know, I mean Gil was there,
Speaker 7: so they was getting ready to trade Gill, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean. Then I had like Andre Blash Nick Young,
Speaker 7: Javel and those guys was young because they didn't play
Speaker 7: as much when you had Karam Buller and Troine Jamison.
Speaker 3: Those guys there their huge.
Speaker 7: So just learning from those guys and just trying to
Speaker 7: build like who he drafted, who we drafted, and I
Speaker 7: meaner like what two three is in a row? We
Speaker 7: had like a top seven pick, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7: We had number six pick, then we had I mean
Speaker 7: we had like two first round picks like back to
Speaker 7: two years in a row. So I'm like, all right,
Speaker 7: hopefully we drafting the right guys to fit with our team.
Speaker 7: And I think, you know, that's the key to like
Speaker 7: all these gms. They like a lot of gms, they
Speaker 7: don't I think a lot more players should be gams.
Speaker 7: I mean, could we know the game very well? So
Speaker 7: just because you nice and I'm nice, don't mean we
Speaker 7: messed it yet, you know what I mean, you gotta
Speaker 7: figure out do they is they gonna is they gonna
Speaker 7: balance it out?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 7: So I think that's the more thing we got to
Speaker 7: figure out with more gms and things like that. But
Speaker 7: I think, like down the road, it's about the work
Speaker 7: you put in as a player. Don't get used to
Speaker 7: the losing, so I never got used to it. I
Speaker 7: just like, Okay, we gotta find a way to get
Speaker 7: out of It's like, what can I do to get
Speaker 7: better myself? I never try to blame the team. I'm like, well, John,
Speaker 7: can you come back better? And hopefully my other teammates
Speaker 7: are coming back better. And then we finally figured out,
Speaker 7: like my third fourth year of figuring out getting over
Speaker 7: the hump.
Speaker 1: And looking back on it, do you think the GM
Speaker 1: that you had that was doing the draft and do
Speaker 1: you think he ultimately did a good job.
Speaker 7: I think we missed out on some pieces. I think
Speaker 7: we missed out on a couple pieces, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean, Like, uh, we could have drafted play. I
Speaker 7: mean we took we took y'all bestally that we thought
Speaker 7: he was the overseas blake gripping at the time I did.
Speaker 3: That's what draft.
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 7: For sure, because he was athletic. But I'm like, we
Speaker 7: needed two guard. This is before we drafted bread Some.
Speaker 7: I'm like, we need a two guard, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean? With me, I'm like, I need a two
Speaker 7: guard knockdown shooter the way I get into the paint
Speaker 7: front shooter that would have worked for us. You know
Speaker 7: what I mean, I think I mean, we got Brad
Speaker 7: right for sure, you know what I mean. I think
Speaker 7: Ala Porter was the best situation at that time, coming
Speaker 7: out being a great three man for us and a slasher.
Speaker 7: We had got Trevor Booker that was at that time
Speaker 7: for the four man. He was a hard worker, play hard,
Speaker 7: do all the dirty work. So those guys we drafted,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, you try to hit on
Speaker 7: the right ones, but the same time it's hit and miss.
Speaker 7: But I feel like we missed out on a couple
Speaker 7: pieces that could have helped us because we draft Clayon
Speaker 7: next year, you get.
Speaker 4: Brad, Are we cool?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 7: I'm straight, I got a two and the three that's
Speaker 7: shooting and pissed out the ball. I'm okay with that,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. But it goes like that.
Speaker 7: But also think so like when we got to that point,
Speaker 7: you also got to try to make some trades. I
Speaker 7: think we did some great trades of getting Gore tied,
Speaker 7: you know, I mean, to helped me a lot of
Speaker 7: my pick and roll having ny nay, you know, I mean,
Speaker 7: then we got Trevor Reza to help us at the
Speaker 7: three position, you know, going against.
Speaker 3: Bron in the East and those guys.
Speaker 7: So he was a great mentor for us, just because
Speaker 7: he had a championship rest read championship penalty to know
Speaker 7: what's going on and things like that. So he kind
Speaker 7: of helped me mold and understand like, Okay, bro, you're
Speaker 7: the best player out here every night.
Speaker 3: You got to think that, like you can't think nothing otherwise.
Speaker 1: I think we all have a moment in our careers,
Speaker 1: like there's a matchup that you take personally.
Speaker 4: You just mentioned mine, Like.
Speaker 1: For years in my career, I said, maybe my first
Speaker 1: seven years, like until I really felt like, all right,
Speaker 1: I've done enough in this personal matchup and in my
Speaker 1: resume to where like all right, i feel like I'm
Speaker 1: good with that now, Like I've done that. And we
Speaker 1: all had that matchup of guys in our career.
Speaker 4: For me, it was Blake Griffin.
Speaker 1: Like when I came in, everybody like, yo, this the
Speaker 1: next young dude up right, Like Blake was in it
Speaker 1: all NBA's and he was in the West, and so
Speaker 1: for me, I'm like, all right, if I'm trying to become.
Speaker 4: An All Star, that's the guy I need to go
Speaker 4: at it. To take down? Who was that guy for
Speaker 4: both of y'all, I.
Speaker 7: Would say for me, mis was gonna be d Ros
Speaker 7: you know, I mean then he got hurt. Other than that,
Speaker 7: it would be Russ because Russ was on the West.
Speaker 7: But for me, I'll say Kyrie. I mean he was
Speaker 7: on the East.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 7: Every time you play Cleveland, I know that game was
Speaker 7: on T and T. I know it was on ESPN.
Speaker 7: I'm like, these shoes got to be laid super tight,
Speaker 7: because you know what Kyle ranging like. You know what
Speaker 7: I mean, You've been against Conn of finals and he's
Speaker 7: just for me, I feel like he's the most skilled
Speaker 7: basketball page. There's nothing he cannot do on the basketball court, catching,
Speaker 7: shoot off the dribble, post ups, left hand floater. So
Speaker 7: for me, I knew I had to lace these boots up.
Speaker 7: Like forget what happened the night before, I forget going
Speaker 7: to dinner, la. No, I'm in his bed getting some
Speaker 7: rest and I'm going at it. So I feel like
Speaker 7: Kyrie would be my guy. Like that's who I say.
Speaker 7: I would always look forward for that matchup.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's say. For me, it was always like Iverson
Speaker 2: or Kobe. Uh Kobe because that was the only time
Speaker 2: I got a chance for people to see me on
Speaker 2: TV at home.
Speaker 4: It was different back then.
Speaker 2: Bro, when the league passed, you know, they come back coming, Charlotte,
Speaker 2: call me coming Charlotte. I had to put on the show.
Speaker 2: Or you know Alan Arbison was growing up, everybody wanted
Speaker 2: to be like Ai. I had that crossed over like AI,
Speaker 2: and I knew if I need to put myself in
Speaker 2: a certain category. But in our era, it was like
Speaker 2: night after night you had like you had nightmares. Sam Caunsell,
Speaker 2: you had you got nightmares. You better get some sleep.
Speaker 2: Nick van Exell, You're gonna have nightmares.
Speaker 4: You better get some sleep.
Speaker 2: Tim Hardaway, like all these dudes was like you know
Speaker 2: where I was when you dunked on me, John Right,
Speaker 2: And so it was like one bout one trying to
Speaker 2: take them out. And I think as I got older,
Speaker 2: you look at like Chauncey Billups, Steve Nash and Tony Parker,
Speaker 2: which a lot of people don't give a lot of
Speaker 2: credit to. Those were the dudes that you know, I
Speaker 2: wanted to take out or had a certain chip on
Speaker 2: my shoulder when I saw him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to stretch my rookie. I was like, no,
Speaker 3: the league hit me up.
Speaker 7: I had, I had, I had d Rose Frondo and
Speaker 7: I go out west. I got Dann Williams, Utah.
Speaker 3: Rush and Steve na I said, there's some bullshit.
Speaker 7: Steve Nash one day then like ten to tenth for
Speaker 7: me against me and like, you know, you know it's
Speaker 7: not you do he run around the basket and he
Speaker 7: don't stop his dribble.
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, this dude is cold. Like so I
Speaker 3: had Like I was just like I had that. Do
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 7: I can't forget CP, you know, I mean CP at
Speaker 7: the time you still had Tony Parker. I mean people
Speaker 7: forget about going dragons. He was hooping at that like
Speaker 7: it was. I was like, yeah, the league is some
Speaker 7: guards and this ship that's where every night at the
Speaker 7: point guard position was head.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah for sure. And then and also I couldn't
Speaker 3: go guard no.
Speaker 7: Three man or a small four men and Mike k't
Speaker 7: shooting the corner, you know, I mean, like I have
Speaker 7: to guard every take him man.
Speaker 3: It was no duck in a matchup. And I'm like, bro,
Speaker 3: I got to do this on the office and do
Speaker 3: this on the other end.
Speaker 2: So it was.
Speaker 7: It was great with the time, Like I came into
Speaker 7: a great time where I had to play against a
Speaker 7: lot of great guards, and it kind of like molded
Speaker 7: me to put my competitor's level to another level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say that as a guard, you
Speaker 2: come in and you shaped by like your rookie year,
Speaker 2: you played against Rondo. He played way different than Steve Nash,
Speaker 2: who played different than Darren Williams, who played different than
Speaker 2: Chris Paul, who play different than Derek bros. And if
Speaker 2: you get caught up and trying to figure them out, right,
Speaker 2: then you'll never figure out who you are and make
Speaker 2: them you gotta make them scared of you. That's that's
Speaker 2: what happened my rookie year. Yeah, that's how I looked
Speaker 2: at it.
Speaker 7: I had to make people like, okay, like now, try
Speaker 7: to make it to where it's not a matchup, you know,
Speaker 7: like I'm trying to go every possession back at then,
Speaker 7: because if you like d Roles at that time, you
Speaker 7: try to squad. I gotta go score, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean, And then we can't forget. Like when step
Speaker 7: started to figure out doing him, I'm like, oh this, yes,
Speaker 7: like I got to run around ninety screens, like you
Speaker 7: know what I mean, because he don't stop moving. So
Speaker 7: I feel like that's like when people say guarding STEFP.
Speaker 7: I like it's a whole nother level because y'all said
Speaker 7: too many screens, he might have a shot through it,
Speaker 7: and they hold it.
Speaker 3: He going off two more screens.
Speaker 7: I'm like, fuck, I ain't guarding nobody like this, So
Speaker 7: I'm preparing myself for this one game of how he's going,
Speaker 7: you know. I mean, like you said, it's always different
Speaker 7: ways you gotta guard certain people, and it just makes
Speaker 7: it difficult.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite memories of your career was your
Speaker 2: game when he shot against the Celtics in twenty seventeen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was ironic. What do you remember about the shot?
Speaker 2: And what was that play? Was the play designed for you?
Speaker 3: No, Dre know the play is Dre. I know J
Speaker 3: White Phielm. It's the same place. Run all the time.
Speaker 7: I decoy to the corner, the four man dive Bragg
Speaker 7: gets depend down from Gorty. You're spposed to catch them
Speaker 7: all the time. The key arguet smart was on top
Speaker 7: of the place, so I just legally run out of
Speaker 7: the corner, like, just give me the ball. Then they
Speaker 7: got a five second relation and stepped out down and
Speaker 7: I'm going to get a great defendive, which I don't
Speaker 7: understand how he never was All NBA first Team. If
Speaker 7: I'm wrong, please correct me. But I don't think everybody
Speaker 7: ever made all in a first team, which he should have.
Speaker 7: I might be wrong, but he was a hell of
Speaker 7: a defender. I played against him since my eleven grade
Speaker 7: year in high school. He played with Dull Daddy on
Speaker 7: the seat of au team. So I take one driven.
Speaker 7: I'm like, bro, I can't get to the baske because
Speaker 7: I know they're not calling no foul. So I'm like,
Speaker 7: my only shot is a shoot three win to go on?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: I mean the bitch went in and it was up
Speaker 3: after that.
Speaker 4: One time twenty sixteen, one.
Speaker 3: Time that year. Fucking that, I'm wrong. He made it
Speaker 3: in one year.
Speaker 7: I was about to say, but I knew, like trying
Speaker 7: to get by him with a time one o'clock, I
Speaker 7: was like, it ain't gonna work, so I just pulled
Speaker 7: up and rest, But then I almost hit a damn
Speaker 7: bank shot over the board.
Speaker 4: Time.
Speaker 2: My heart was like, please, don't I need my game winner,
Speaker 2: this one, man, I need this, this my one.
Speaker 3: That maybe that they helped me get my right here thirteen.
Speaker 1: That speaking in that same vein with the Celtics that
Speaker 1: series they came in and all black, uh saying Game
Speaker 1: six was a funeral. I remember you mentioned in the
Speaker 1: post game? Was that a discussion for y'all going into
Speaker 1: that game? Like yo, like talking about that because at
Speaker 1: that time, like the fashion wasn't as in your face
Speaker 1: like it is now.
Speaker 7: Nah, Like for me, it's like, you know how you
Speaker 7: ship back in the locker room, they got a little
Speaker 7: TV on they showed the teams walking in.
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn this nigga all black?
Speaker 4: Yeah, funeral.
Speaker 7: I was like, no, no, yeah, I can't wear no,
Speaker 7: he can't wear no f like all black and somebody
Speaker 7: I said funeral. So I kind of took it personal.
Speaker 7: You know how you're warming up for the game. I
Speaker 7: tell the guys like, yo, we can't lose. Like they
Speaker 7: treated like we're done with like they already, but it's
Speaker 7: in the cast we go with. I'm like, we just
Speaker 7: gotta we gotta figure way out. So I mean, luckily
Speaker 7: we came back and got to win, and then you know,
Speaker 7: we lost in game chaping. But I like ironic, that's
Speaker 7: probably one of the best series in a long time,
Speaker 7: Like what's going total to And we really had real
Speaker 7: beef throughout the regular season, Like we had real smoke
Speaker 7: set the regular seasons, So to get to them was
Speaker 7: very like we needed that, Like I wanted that smoke
Speaker 7: them the.
Speaker 1: Fun times, man, when you got a little chipping this
Speaker 1: back and forth with the team and then you get, yeah,
Speaker 1: get matched up with that team in the playoffs like
Speaker 1: we had.
Speaker 4: We've had those times with like the Memphis Grizzlies.
Speaker 1: We've had those sounds with Houston where it's like the
Speaker 1: shipping and every game you got that same chippings, and
Speaker 1: then you meet in the playoffs and it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: here we go, Like I got you.
Speaker 7: You know, every game is different, bro, every game is
Speaker 7: gonna be different. You like, even you go down too old,
Speaker 7: you up too old. You're like, man ship, it ain't
Speaker 7: over matter. And like that's how I felt when we
Speaker 7: played Atlantic. We got to play Atlantard earlier that series,
Speaker 7: and I was mad because twenty fifteen had periods. I
Speaker 7: fractioned my hand and I finished the whole game one
Speaker 7: I didn't know I had five fractions in my hands.
Speaker 7: I go to the back, take a shot out my
Speaker 7: hand like a little white muffin hend. I'm like you,
Speaker 7: I can't wash my back. I'm like, shit, I'm out.
Speaker 7: Got missed like three games, I mean none, my hand
Speaker 7: of it finally came make and play and I'll never forget.
Speaker 7: I blocked Schrodershot Game five and uh forre forget the
Speaker 7: rebound and score LB. Then they go up through too,
Speaker 7: I never forget. Then it showed in a can't bathe
Speaker 7: I'm liked it like looking at me and posted a picture.
Speaker 7: I'm like, oh, I gotta get these motherfuckers. I gotta
Speaker 7: get I gotta get them. So when we went back
Speaker 7: and we got to play them that year, I had
Speaker 7: like twenty four and fourth, like I ain't ne with
Speaker 7: forty two. I was like, I told y'all was coming back.
Speaker 7: I told y'all was coming back. So you know, like
Speaker 7: you said, you have those beeping, those personal battles, that
Speaker 7: shit means.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that that that all black to the funeral.
Speaker 2: That's kind of like a hull. I can't ah little mantra,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: But at at the time, guy in the playoffs y'all
Speaker 2: making waves. Was there ever a Big three era moment
Speaker 2: for Washington where you and Brad were are potentially gonna
Speaker 2: get somebody? Or who was that player you were trying
Speaker 2: to add that you guys thought could help you get
Speaker 2: to the finals.
Speaker 7: I really try to get Paul George, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean? Like that year we were trying to get KD.
Speaker 7: I was like, bro, we gotta get Paul George, like
Speaker 7: we needed this is a perfect three man for I
Speaker 7: feel like we had the four and five that was
Speaker 7: solid for us, uh Me and Bradd in the back court.
Speaker 7: We just I just think Paul George could have helped
Speaker 7: this because I feel like that time in the East
Speaker 7: ist Lebron. I mean, everybody knows Bron you gotta have
Speaker 7: a three that can guard. Not saying you're gonna be
Speaker 7: able to stop himcause we know how dominant Gritty is.
Speaker 7: Fucking go back him too, that he has to respect,
Speaker 7: and I feel like Paul George would be that guy.
Speaker 7: And we were trying to go get KD. And I
Speaker 7: was just like, we're not getting Vin Duran, like it's
Speaker 7: not coming to DC and too much family stuff. It's
Speaker 7: too much now he ain't trying to do it and
Speaker 7: we end up having Paul, which Paul ended up being
Speaker 7: great for you, like a great vet for me. Taught
Speaker 7: me a lie, his routine, the way he worked it
Speaker 7: was amazing, and uh, we kind of got Paul. He
Speaker 7: thought Sam was staying with He thought samun Sale was
Speaker 7: gonna stay like coach, And that's year Sam went and
Speaker 7: went to the Clippers.
Speaker 3: So Paul stayed for that one year. After that we
Speaker 3: just had to try to figure it out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but for that one year, I feel like we
Speaker 7: could have got to the eastkind and find if I
Speaker 7: didn't break my hand.
Speaker 3: But that's the guy I was going for for sure,
Speaker 3: Paul George.
Speaker 1: I remember being on the list for KD. So I
Speaker 1: think he went.
Speaker 7: It's that same year or the year Okay, yeah he
Speaker 7: got yeah, Yeah, So I was like, man, we gotta
Speaker 7: get him, like, because come on right here, what we're doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kevin is not cut.
Speaker 4: Y'all could have got.
Speaker 7: If y'all could have got, it would have been raised,
Speaker 7: like we know the hell that would have been. But
Speaker 7: in my mind, I'm just shaying, we're not getting kill
Speaker 7: like what we are. We're not at the level where
Speaker 7: we feel like we're a championship team. That's what Kevin
Speaker 7: was going for. We need a person that's gonna help
Speaker 7: us get there, which Kevin would have got us there,
Speaker 7: but I just felt Paul George would have been the
Speaker 7: best fit for us at the time.
Speaker 1: I knew when I was looking at kd list of
Speaker 1: like teams that he was looking at. Uh, we was
Speaker 1: in that run and there trying to get I knew
Speaker 1: the one team we didn't have to worry about with.
Speaker 4: Y'all because I knew he was.
Speaker 1: I knew he wasn't going home. I'm like, there's no
Speaker 1: chance we're not going home. So I just knew, like
Speaker 1: just for that reason alone, Like I knew, I'm like
Speaker 1: brother going to the crib.
Speaker 4: Like, so I just I knew that.
Speaker 7: I was telling this the whole time, like we got
Speaker 7: to go get PG, like put all our focus on PG. Like,
Speaker 7: I mean, k Ain't coming home.
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: And speaking of that big three and just you and
Speaker 1: Brad like playing together for eight years, what's your thoughts
Speaker 1: kind of on what's happening with him in Phoenix right
Speaker 1: now where it's kind of I kind of like the
Speaker 1: almost in something comes off as like Scapegolders, but I
Speaker 1: don't know they locker room, so I can't necessarily say that.
Speaker 1: But like he obviously not start, you know, like so
Speaker 1: just kind of what his whole situation and what he's
Speaker 1: going through there.
Speaker 7: I think it's tough. I mean, because like I thought
Speaker 7: it was a tough move anyway going there early on.
Speaker 7: You're not mean, three guys that could score the ball
Speaker 7: at a high level. They all three need the basketball,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean? But we know K's the
Speaker 7: one guy of those three guys that you just say,
Speaker 7: you know what, just give me the ball on the
Speaker 7: mid coast me and posting the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do my thing. I'm very efficient.
Speaker 7: So I think it was kind of tough because he
Speaker 7: didn't know where his shots was coming and now all
Speaker 7: of his shots turn into be and just catching shoot
Speaker 7: shots for me, you know what I mean. I think
Speaker 7: that kind of like was in his role and kind
Speaker 7: of listening to Kay had to post an interview and
Speaker 7: he was like, I know, you probably don't want to
Speaker 7: come off the bench. He's still playing started men's like
Speaker 7: thirty five minutes a night. But I think now he
Speaker 7: knows where his shots is coming from, Like he's able
Speaker 7: to get into his rhythm, he's able to have a
Speaker 7: bit more scoring game. But it's like, yeah, I'm making
Speaker 7: fifty something million, like I'm coming off the bench. This shit,
Speaker 7: don't it don't add up. You're not really getting a
Speaker 7: guy paying fifty million to come off the bench. So
Speaker 7: I think in their mindset, they're kind of looking for
Speaker 7: a guy that's more like a slash like glue guy
Speaker 7: for them, and it probably a fit better for them.
Speaker 7: I mean, because I feel like Brad feel at the
Speaker 7: same time. Right now, he still can go get twenty
Speaker 7: twenty five at any given night, and he said proven
Speaker 7: that coming off the bench, So I think he wanted
Speaker 7: to kind of roll where he's going to have the
Speaker 7: ball more. And I think in Phinis he's just not
Speaker 7: gonna work with a deep book and k there with it.
Speaker 1: And I think it'll always be And it's just it's
Speaker 1: tough in general, like because whether you're playing starter minutes
Speaker 1: or not, if you're coming off the bench, it essentially
Speaker 1: slots you into a role. And just as a role player,
Speaker 1: I don't think people understand you're not going to get
Speaker 1: the sh same shots every night. I don't care how
Speaker 1: many minutes you play. Yes, as a role player, you're
Speaker 1: just not going to get the same shots every night
Speaker 1: because the offense isn't built for you to get those shots.
Speaker 3: Like the same shot is a different game plan. How
Speaker 3: they guard.
Speaker 1: Absolutely and so as a role player, the game plan
Speaker 1: may delete you right out of the offense because the
Speaker 1: offense ain't built for you anyway. So where there guard
Speaker 1: is something, you may get two shots that night. I
Speaker 1: saw the other night where I think Brad had like
Speaker 1: five points. He took had like four or five shots, right, Like,
Speaker 1: there's going to be some nights like that. One is
Speaker 1: not designed for you. And I just think you know,
Speaker 1: if to have those nights like that too much, bro,
Speaker 1: Like it's not it's not you're not getting the best out.
Speaker 3: Of Bradley man coaching.
Speaker 7: And it's like if you come off yeah, And I
Speaker 7: feel like if you like a guy that's been starting
Speaker 7: and been that role, and I get it, sometimes at
Speaker 7: some point of your career you have to take the
Speaker 7: back seat and come off the bench. But if you
Speaker 7: feel like you're still in that moment, you feel a
Speaker 7: showing that you can still in that moment, it kind
Speaker 7: of fuck with your mind, your mentality, coming into the game,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Like it kind of puts
Speaker 7: you in position like, man, I know I can be
Speaker 7: out there, like I know I can help better. But
Speaker 7: like you said, you come out the bench like, well,
Speaker 7: you might get fifteen minutes now, you might get twenty
Speaker 7: minutes now, or you might get two shots, or you
Speaker 7: at least is a lot shorter than it is when
Speaker 7: you're the number one, number two Optionhow you're that franchise god.
Speaker 7: So kind of accepting that role is a little bit
Speaker 7: difficult than a lot of people think, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean. They think it's so much easier, But if
Speaker 7: you used to being that guy and that movement.
Speaker 3: It hurts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like the worst thing to do is somebody with
Speaker 2: that much amount of talent and that much amount of
Speaker 2: game to know every game how much time they're gonna play.
Speaker 2: If you're a superstar, you know, okay, I'm finishing out
Speaker 2: the game. I'm closing out the game. If you somebody
Speaker 2: like Brad and you're looking like, oh man, I'm at
Speaker 2: twenty five thirty minutes, I don't know how this is going.
Speaker 2: Once you start, once you got that mentality, it's frustrated.
Speaker 2: It hurts because you can't think past like the confidence
Speaker 2: of I'm the closer or I'm on the closing team.
Speaker 2: It's unpredictable, so you're ready, you're unready, you're getting shots,
Speaker 2: you're not getting shot. So it really just played with
Speaker 2: your confidence and your psyche and more so your mentality
Speaker 2: going to the game, because if you know, like, all right,
Speaker 2: some dudes who come off the bench and play twenty
Speaker 2: minutes a game, they know they playing twenty minutes a game,
Speaker 2: that's their role. Somebody who is nice like Bradley Beal
Speaker 2: that should be over capacity and can affect the game.
Speaker 2: That could potentially, you know, hurt his psyche or just
Speaker 2: hurt his rhythm and hurt hurt the opportunities for the
Speaker 2: team to have a better rhythm and knowing how to win.
Speaker 2: But that's ultimately a coaching thing. You know, if you
Speaker 2: if you got three higher guns on your team and
Speaker 2: you're not putting them in position to all being rhythm,
Speaker 2: then you gotta start looking at man, who who's mixing
Speaker 2: and matching these lineups where these dudes can't all get
Speaker 2: their game off.
Speaker 4: You went to a Wizards game earlier this month, How
Speaker 4: was it for you going back there to receive a
Speaker 4: reception that you did.
Speaker 1: Your return to a game.
Speaker 3: Oh it was dope, man. Like I was in TALC.
Speaker 7: One of my close friends had a baby shower and
Speaker 7: I was like, man, the game on Sunday, Like I
Speaker 7: just stay and go to the game. I mean, like
Speaker 7: just to be back around a love. Let me see
Speaker 7: a lot of people from the facility that they haven't
Speaker 7: seen it in a while. So it was dope, man, Like,
Speaker 7: I appreciate the tribute to the fans, still show me
Speaker 7: the love that I feel like I deserved. And it
Speaker 7: was dope to be back in that environment. I mean
Speaker 7: you kind of get the chills and trying not to
Speaker 7: like break down, because you know what I mean, that
Speaker 7: was home for me. That was a place I never
Speaker 7: wanted to leave. I wanted to kind of play my
Speaker 7: whole career until it got to a point where, you know,
Speaker 7: the front office might be like, you know what, we
Speaker 7: just trying to completely rebuild and we feel like you
Speaker 7: should go somewhere else. I mean, that's kind of the
Speaker 7: role I wanted to be is played for one team,
Speaker 7: my organization, but now it's a business. Shit happens, you
Speaker 7: move on from me. But I still got a lot
Speaker 7: of love for the city that's my second home. The
Speaker 7: city still showed me love, and I always try to
Speaker 7: do as much as I can when I go back
Speaker 7: there and try to visit as much as possible so
Speaker 7: to get that type of love still and know like
Speaker 7: how much I made to the community outside of just basketball.
Speaker 3: That's what I really prided myself off of.
Speaker 1: You haven't officially retired though, so they can't tell you
Speaker 1: yet when you're a Jersey getting retired.
Speaker 2: Absolutely kind Yeah, with your love of basketball and you know,
Speaker 2: you watch a lot of games, what do you think
Speaker 2: of the current was the squads and how would you
Speaker 2: and the team?
Speaker 7: Oh, for me, I feel like they got to find
Speaker 7: that number one guy, you know what I mean, the
Speaker 7: franchise guy, you know what I mean. I think the
Speaker 7: young guys they drafted, it's pretty they're gonna be good.
Speaker 7: I think they're gonna be some great role players to
Speaker 7: kind of go into what they system needs. But I
Speaker 7: think they like you, I mean, like they vets now
Speaker 7: don't want to They kind of see like they want
Speaker 7: to be out, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 7: think they gotta find and dre probably contributed. It's a
Speaker 7: lot of these teams don't really have vets. They's mentoring
Speaker 7: these guys that want to be there, like you know
Speaker 7: what I mean, Like, all right, you know you sign
Speaker 7: him as a vent. I'm not gonna play as much.
Speaker 7: I might not play, but I'm gonna help the young
Speaker 7: guys know what the league is about. I think that's
Speaker 7: what some of these teams are missing. So I think
Speaker 7: if they can get a couple of those guys to
Speaker 7: help out. But I mean, they probably gonna be in
Speaker 7: the draft for the next two to three years, probably
Speaker 7: trying to get that one guy that's that guy. And
Speaker 7: I think, I mean, once you find out who your
Speaker 7: guy is, I think all those young guys can learn from,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. I kind of look at
Speaker 7: the Rockets, you know what I mean, they found out
Speaker 7: who they guys they I feel like it's Jalen Green
Speaker 7: right now on Sagoon, and they put a lot of
Speaker 7: vets around him. They got a new coach and a
Speaker 7: new coach, and so he don't funk around. He's like,
Speaker 7: this is what we're doing, is how we're going. And
Speaker 7: they drafted a lot young great talent. I think they
Speaker 7: drafted too much great young talent. Get rid of some
Speaker 7: of those guys because they don't get to get on
Speaker 7: the floor. Yeah, I mean, but I feel like the
Speaker 7: Wizards are going in the right direction that you gotta.
Speaker 7: They got a new front office and things like that.
Speaker 7: So it takes some time. I mean, but you know,
Speaker 7: a lot of teams, a lot of fans don't want
Speaker 7: to waste no time waiting.
Speaker 2: And the worst thing you can have in player development
Speaker 2: when you have rookies and you know a young team
Speaker 2: is you can have the worst thing to have is
Speaker 2: vets that don't want to be there, because that means
Speaker 2: that they don't really want to play or show the
Speaker 2: young groom the young guys to show the young guys,
Speaker 2: there's no there's no culture being built. So I agree,
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta be blown up fast. Also, one
Speaker 2: of the biggest trades UH being discussed obviously is Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 4: You went through a tough trade.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: You were trading from the Wizards right the city you love.
Speaker 2: You arrived in Houston when Harden was trying to be traded.
Speaker 2: You know, we thought, well, I man, I thought, okay, cracking,
Speaker 2: you know, I thought it was gonna be cracking.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: That was Yeah, I thought that's gonna be too shit.
Speaker 2: I got there and there was you know, you went
Speaker 2: to the charity it was picking up for locking up.
Speaker 2: That seemed like it was gonna be something social media
Speaker 2: is chinky bro.
Speaker 3: Uh, Like we're just going there at the charity game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I thought. I thought.
Speaker 7: I thought it was gonna kind of work out, you know.
Speaker 7: I mean like trying to figure out like which way
Speaker 7: they was going. And I feel like it just was
Speaker 7: a tough spot for me. I mean getting traded there,
Speaker 7: which I loved, Like I didn't have no problem with
Speaker 7: the city of Houston, and they showed me a lot
Speaker 7: of love.
Speaker 3: It was during COVID. It was a tough time.
Speaker 7: But it was just tough because I just came back
Speaker 7: and I'm like, Okay, I'm getting back to myself. I'm
Speaker 7: healthy again, and I'm like, okay, I'm ready to hoop,
Speaker 7: Like I ain't trying to sit down and I'm not
Speaker 7: trying to miss no time. I missed two years, you
Speaker 7: know what I mean, from my achilles injury and then
Speaker 7: dealing with COVID and all the other personal problems I
Speaker 7: went through. And then after the first year, they just
Speaker 7: wanted to go to a rebuild. So I kind of
Speaker 7: got stuck in a position where it's like I want
Speaker 7: to be playing, Like I know I could still start
Speaker 7: and play at a high level for a team, and
Speaker 7: it's like kind of we were just saying, like I
Speaker 7: don't want to come off the bench, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean? Like case now, if I do, this is
Speaker 7: gonna be my trademark to everybody every other team in
Speaker 7: the league is John Walker is a bench player. Unless
Speaker 7: I'm going to back up like John Moreno or Steph Curry,
Speaker 7: the one of those guys that that guy, then I
Speaker 7: could be okay with that. But I didn't feel like
Speaker 7: I was in that right situation the right time, and
Speaker 7: they even told me that I don't feel like you should.
Speaker 7: But what they did, wh how they built their team
Speaker 7: out and made the changes, They're in a great position,
Speaker 7: so I can see what the future and what they
Speaker 7: plan was.
Speaker 3: It was just a bad spot for me.
Speaker 2: And then what was the atmosphere, like, you know, having
Speaker 2: a teammate trying to be traded, you know, similar to
Speaker 2: what Miami going through a bit.
Speaker 3: To be honest, for me, it wasn't bad.
Speaker 7: Like James showed up to every day, he did his work,
Speaker 7: he was professional, He came, did his work. He didn't
Speaker 7: kind of like he had any problems with us, Like
Speaker 7: whatever problems he had with the front office or whatever
Speaker 7: anybody else was doing was trading him, didn't affect our team,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. Came and did his job,
Speaker 7: He did his work, and he got out of there.
Speaker 7: So I can't say nothing bad about a guy that's
Speaker 7: still being professional, comeing, doing his work and going about
Speaker 7: his way. That's the way I would look at it.
Speaker 7: I mean, I feel like, you just gotta continue to
Speaker 7: do what you gotta do, and eventually it happens the
Speaker 7: way you want to have it. Like I know, they
Speaker 7: probably like, damn, Jim, you're just still missing planes. They
Speaker 7: like they messing with that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: And to my homeboy, because he was like I been
Speaker 7: on that though, but he was like he was like,
Speaker 7: he was like, don't y'all just get to fly? Probably
Speaker 7: I want, like, no, bro, Like, unless you got a
Speaker 7: family matter or something going on, you you got to
Speaker 7: be on the plane.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I went through some ship like that.
Speaker 2: When I was having beef with the organization, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: flying my plane, but I was. When you got to
Speaker 2: the airport, having my driver come get me and dunking out.
Speaker 3: In the city.
Speaker 7: But you know that sometimes you might get in late.
Speaker 7: You might want to go do your thing, but missing
Speaker 7: it to the plan and they waiting for you, that's
Speaker 7: like we wait an hour for it. So he pulled up,
Speaker 7: he pulled up beside you.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but put me on the team playing, man,
Speaker 1: no price is playing its expensive.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: I did my I did my share that And I
Speaker 3: was like, this is not saying that.
Speaker 2: You don't get the food you get on the team playing.
Speaker 2: He's playing you know for us.
Speaker 3: I was telling them we had to order stuff we
Speaker 3: got we go get the catering food.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I think, like you know, I mean, in
Speaker 7: that position, it could be like kind of a distraction,
Speaker 7: you know, I mean, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: because like I never been played for the Heat, I like,
Speaker 7: I understand what the Heat coulture is and what they
Speaker 7: believe in.
Speaker 3: I think, like me, I look at it.
Speaker 7: If I'm ever going through something like that, if I'm
Speaker 7: between these four lines, I'm giving everything I got because
Speaker 7: this could funk around be your last game, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean. So as long as you just been professional,
Speaker 7: I think that's the key. You got to look at it,
Speaker 7: into it and hopefully they do the right thing by you.
Speaker 7: By you've been professional doing the right thing by them.
Speaker 7: But like we don't know, Like I can't really say
Speaker 7: too much because I'm not in the locker room. I
Speaker 7: don't know what those conversations are like, They're just like
Speaker 7: if it was a different snarer and what I knew.
Speaker 1: What it was. You've always you've always been passionate about
Speaker 1: the younger guys coming after you, uh, and having a
Speaker 1: high school tournament and being involved in the AA.
Speaker 4: You've seen just always been seen giving back.
Speaker 1: Uh. Are there any young guys that you are mentoring
Speaker 1: in the league coming up right now? Oh?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like you know, I still try to talk to
Speaker 7: Jensen Green as much as possible. Themen I was there
Speaker 7: when he was a rookie. Uh, he's blossomed until where
Speaker 7: everybody thought he could be, and I think he just
Speaker 7: find his niche. I still taught the kJ Ken Martin Jr.
Speaker 7: I mean, helping him out a lot. And then Rob,
Speaker 7: you know Rob billing him. I known him since seventh
Speaker 7: grade when he played for Combine, Jeff mcginnon's old high
Speaker 7: school team. So just try to talk to those guys
Speaker 7: and like I always tell all the young guys like
Speaker 7: I'm a phone call away, Like I'm not one of
Speaker 7: those guys that's bitter that you getting to this level
Speaker 7: or doing that, Like this is my job to pass
Speaker 7: along what I learned and the mistakes I made to
Speaker 7: help you out. So I even talked to all these
Speaker 7: hoghtole kids, like I got the old black soil turning,
Speaker 7: which is mine. We just had it and I got
Speaker 7: like a lot of top kids in it, so it
Speaker 7: was dope. We had west Chester come out there, Trevorze's son,
Speaker 7: so they played pretty cool. But yeah, I just got
Speaker 7: a lot of guys I just talked to, you know me,
Speaker 7: I try to go to games whenever I'm in certain
Speaker 7: cities and they see me, I say, what's up?
Speaker 2: So college career? So true forty one? Do the John
Speaker 2: Yeah due to John Wall? True forty one. I don't
Speaker 2: know John Wall. That was out of nowhere. Where were
Speaker 2: you when you hurt the track for the first time?
Speaker 2: I mean you had a come on, man, you got
Speaker 2: a song in college about you.
Speaker 3: I wish had.
Speaker 7: Crazy, but no, it's crazy because I didn't even know
Speaker 7: they like I knew them. They're younger than me, and
Speaker 7: they kind of went to school like with my sister
Speaker 7: and a couple of my own boys.
Speaker 3: And I forgot I forgot words.
Speaker 7: I think I was still in college when they made
Speaker 7: this song, like in a regular season or in the tournament,
Speaker 7: and it's like, you got a song.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what the hell I got a song for?
Speaker 3: And it was just little.
Speaker 7: I mean I went up there and dance when I
Speaker 7: was up there, and then yeah, kind of like the
Speaker 7: John Wall Yeah, to dance, you know, like think about it.
Speaker 4: He would have got bread.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts about n
Speaker 2: I l and how it's changing?
Speaker 1: Legally got because they was getting the bread at Kentucky
Speaker 1: would have been able to know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, legal would have been posted.
Speaker 3: Listen, I don't care listen legally not legally. I didn't
Speaker 3: get No, I don't listens listening, not listening.
Speaker 7: This is the honest truth. Like everything I love, I
Speaker 7: not got nurse John Calliper, no with your camera, coach cown.
Speaker 7: What I did do is went to summer school, had
Speaker 7: a job and got an hour trying it for one hour,
Speaker 7: like the money they getting like fifty thousand, But I
Speaker 7: couldn't wait for that pair of man was everything like
Speaker 7: I was wearing Polo and Sass.
Speaker 3: I was getting leave by Jean's like yeah, this is
Speaker 3: what was going on in Cow. But I feel like
Speaker 3: like a thousand dollars going to my mother, like it
Speaker 3: was nothing else. I couldn't take the whole you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 7: But I think it was dope to a certain state
Speaker 7: because they supposed to be naming liking I mean, what
Speaker 7: you're selling jerseys like now it's too like a full
Speaker 7: bidding one. It's like every year they say like Drake,
Speaker 7: like Okay, look at the kid from Ohio State, jerm
Speaker 7: My Smith, right, somebody offering him four point five to
Speaker 7: hit the portal, Like why am I leaving the Ohio State?
Speaker 7: Like I just want that jump. Sure, probably can go
Speaker 7: back the next two more years if I really want to,
Speaker 7: you know. I mean, so I get it for some
Speaker 7: kids that's probably not gonna make it to the league,
Speaker 7: and it's probably the most money they might see. But
Speaker 7: don't I think they got to take the porter out though,
Speaker 7: because like everybody just going to the porter every year
Speaker 7: just to see we're gonna offer me the most money,
Speaker 7: Like I know one kid that was at this school
Speaker 7: last year was making twenty three out right here, the
Speaker 7: porter made one point five.
Speaker 3: He only played two minutes a game.
Speaker 7: Jesus happy for him, though, Don't get me wrong, he's
Speaker 7: making the most money pipe will unless he do something
Speaker 7: outside of basketball, go overseas now. I mean, because he's
Speaker 7: probably not gonna be a pro. But now it's like
Speaker 7: every year, Okay, who's gonna offer me the most?
Speaker 3: I'm gone. Like, imagine dre We's in high school. They
Speaker 3: making six MILLI six million dollars. So you're pulling up
Speaker 3: to your school with the best car.
Speaker 7: You think you really listen to your college coach unless
Speaker 7: you got a great foundation of like a assistant or
Speaker 7: mom or brother that's keeping unthinking control. A lot of
Speaker 7: these kids lose their passion and the love for the
Speaker 7: game because they're already reaching. What we try to get
Speaker 7: to the leaf for is to take care of our families,
Speaker 7: take care of ourselves. They're getting this in high school.
Speaker 1: A lot of these kids gonna be short sighted and
Speaker 1: things they doing it. Man, you're gonna mess out on
Speaker 1: the five hundred million that's coming up.
Speaker 7: And again, I'm over in my tournament, right in my tournament.
Speaker 7: I'm seeing kids iced out, like walking in icet out
Speaker 7: Gucci shoes, Gucci shoes, my Mary pasts. I'm like, all
Speaker 7: I had was a Nike swist. This is all I
Speaker 7: cared for. You let me going to a high school game,
Speaker 7: even if you go to the summer, like if you
Speaker 7: go like the Au tournament they got in the summer.
Speaker 3: I didn't even think about walking into the Louis store.
Speaker 4: It was I didn't know what Louis walk in there.
Speaker 7: I knew the flea market one way and put the
Speaker 7: Louis on the force and then those work. But I
Speaker 7: hope they figured out and do it better. I mean,
Speaker 7: I feel like it's great for kids to get paid
Speaker 7: for what like I feel like we all should have
Speaker 7: been paid for what we brought to the game, like
Speaker 7: likeness and selling our jerseys.
Speaker 3: But I think some of it's going to look too
Speaker 3: far in my opinion.
Speaker 4: Sure, I was thankful.
Speaker 1: I was thankful to get a little like nice little
Speaker 1: Nike package from Uncle West or Vince Ball.
Speaker 3: It was cool.
Speaker 1: Look out they send you a Nike package every now
Speaker 1: and then. Sweat suicide of the a couple of kicks.
Speaker 4: That's all good I do. Got one more And this
Speaker 4: is for you too, j I just thought of this.
Speaker 2: Uh, John, give me your top teen all time Kentucky team,
Speaker 2: and then do you think that Kentucky with all is
Speaker 2: great blue Kentucky blue spirit in heritage, could they beat
Speaker 2: Michigan State all time team?
Speaker 4: Are you don't know?
Speaker 3: All time all time all time? You're saying college like
Speaker 3: playing in college?
Speaker 4: Since we do this?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Please? Are you crazy?
Speaker 3: Are you crazy? Come on?
Speaker 1: Look?
Speaker 4: Yeah? The number one pick?
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's the starting five? Who's the second five? And
Speaker 2: can that team beat Michigan State all time team?
Speaker 1: I got, I got the markets at my fins, all right,
Speaker 1: So you take DeMarcus number one pick. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: the irving magic Man Johnson himself. Okay, I got a
Speaker 1: D at my four eight after four, after.
Speaker 4: Four for us, I am going to go the all
Speaker 4: time starting five. Oh, let's do this.
Speaker 2: Ain't see green, It ain't see green going to Michigan State.
Speaker 1: No chance, no chance, I think. After four, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with myself, of course, okay, of course. And the
Speaker 1: three I'm going Jamal mad with Jamal mash Bryan. After three,
Speaker 1: I am going Steve Smith Motor D two I'm going
Speaker 1: to take shore at the two after two, I am
Speaker 1: going it's getting real. Dang, do I want Scott Skoules
Speaker 1: at the one or two? Magic got you gotta match
Speaker 1: up with men. If you had the magic got the one.
Speaker 1: So Scott Skyles, I met the one, Scott Skoyles, and
Speaker 1: then that center. You gotta go with that jumping dude,
Speaker 1: that Johnny Green. You know, jumping Johnny Johnny Green, you
Speaker 1: got you got z Bo too, z Bo animal, but
Speaker 1: z Bo. I give y'all six men for sure, six
Speaker 1: and seven.
Speaker 4: Man too much.
Speaker 1: I don't even know.
Speaker 3: I got too many people. I just put anybody there.
Speaker 3: I got too many people.
Speaker 1: Y'all gonna lose for sure. You're crazy, no better coaching cow.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna coach off the show. It's happening.
Speaker 3: That's cool. Yeah, you got out coaches playoffs.
Speaker 4: So we got we're gonna beat y'all. We're gonna we're
Speaker 4: gonna be up.
Speaker 7: And down that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we've got scouts.
Speaker 3: Ain't tough to worry about.
Speaker 4: Scott was time.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: I want to about to say face expression.
Speaker 2: He's like scott'st hey Jamal Mashburg tast Shawn Prince nobody
Speaker 2: magic magic.
Speaker 1: That se gonna get body put in that post. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I just gotta I gotta put him on him though,
Speaker 1: Body in the post take your five.
Speaker 3: Minut because Boogie is bullying whoever your fire man is?
Speaker 4: Who who.
Speaker 1: He?
Speaker 3: Did you not finish over a D D min a D.
Speaker 1: Hell cal We almost play ad them and we lost
Speaker 1: ad back then having bad break.
Speaker 4: All type of hell you about to get.
Speaker 2: The type of that block was smacking ship, pushing the break.
Speaker 7: Your five though your five, that your bug because Boog
Speaker 7: bully ship too. I'm trying to think of that one,
Speaker 7: y'all to the match, that y'all would have got ejected
Speaker 7: first quarter first like first two.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be a Draymond Green and DeMarcus cousins.
Speaker 7: Hey, Dre, y'all would have been like uh with Bud
Speaker 7: dropped the elbow on swashright, we played Look, here's supposed
Speaker 7: to be ejected the first two minutes.
Speaker 3: We had eight text as at first.
Speaker 4: Minute of the game. It's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's a funny story.
Speaker 7: Right, Tony Dell was on our staff, right, it's his
Speaker 7: cousin or nephew was on the Louis team starting.
Speaker 3: We could not get bladed to calm down. He told,
Speaker 3: I'm a whoop his ass? Which side you pick? I'm like,
Speaker 3: you ain't tell the man.
Speaker 4: I forgot what Gla was there too.
Speaker 2: That was my rug.
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 2: That was my rug.
Speaker 4: I think, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We might we bull gonna have an advantage for sure.
Speaker 1: He'll have an advantage for sure, but we're gonna get
Speaker 1: him in foul trouble all that. Like it's ways around
Speaker 1: just his talent advantage against us, like like it just
Speaker 1: won't be talented talent there, Like, he gonna have that
Speaker 1: advantage for sure. No matter who I choose, he'll have
Speaker 1: an advantage at five. But everywhere else what it will hell.
Speaker 3: Where like Jamal madd Smith ain't a great that's a
Speaker 3: great matchup.
Speaker 2: But Smitty oh Man, smitty, But Smitty was a Jama
Speaker 2: guard in college.
Speaker 1: He was.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 2: So you got magic get Smitty at the guard.
Speaker 1: But you figured that out like that, that's fine, Like
Speaker 1: we'll be all right. You're putting both of them.
Speaker 2: On the I have to say, James, a lot of
Speaker 2: sign Jamn. I feel like John Wall really know Kentucky
Speaker 2: basketball history. I feel right now, Jamond, you kind of
Speaker 2: say you kind of you kind of stuck.
Speaker 7: I'm five because I'm stuck on a lot of positions, bro,
Speaker 7: because I forgot like Derrick Anderson.
Speaker 4: No, for sure, I can go way deeper into the vault.
Speaker 3: I know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I got you can go way deeper into the vault.
Speaker 1: But I've been I've been stuck out of five, man.
Speaker 1: I think like that's where That's why I said we're
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna struggle at five for sure, but everywhere
Speaker 1: else I can go deep into the vault.
Speaker 2: Now, I built the AI called Kobe. Let me ask Kobe.
Speaker 2: You got Greg Kessler, Greg Kelson, Yeah, Greg kelsor lads,
Speaker 2: Paul Davis.
Speaker 1: But that's why I can't be like I'm a big
Speaker 1: part of this man. I can't be like Paul Davis
Speaker 1: against Hudson, the Marcus cousin, now Paul Davis in real life.
Speaker 4: With Kevin Willis. Kevin Willis for sure, but Kevin Willis
Speaker 4: what he gave him. Yeah, but he wasn't bullied, No,
Speaker 4: not bullied. But he would have gave him, He would
Speaker 4: gave him hell, he wouldn't bully, No, chance. Ain't nobody
Speaker 4: from Michigan taking bully aging pain.
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking of ap Adrian Payne.
Speaker 3: He was too little, but he was good college player.
Speaker 4: I like for sure a p No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: But if I was doing Thischigan State, say matteen Cleves,
Speaker 2: of course, magic, but I can't start mon magic. No,
Speaker 2: you start, you start, you start magic playing one two, three,
Speaker 2: four five for sure. Steve Smith played a one two
Speaker 2: three for sure. But matteaen Cleves, Steve Smith magic. I
Speaker 2: picked Smitty Smitty yeah, Steve Smith, Yeah, I pick three.
Speaker 2: I picked Magic, Yeah, I picked myself. You put Scott
Speaker 2: Scouts though you pick Scott's Scott Skoules is a good
Speaker 2: one too. You need you need a center though.
Speaker 7: I got, I left, I got Rondo, I got like
Speaker 7: he got where he got Ron Mercer Anchoine Walker.
Speaker 4: Uh okay, oh.
Speaker 3: Okay, Damn Fink.
Speaker 1: Go following.
Speaker 4: Mad Yeah, we keep going, okay, okay?
Speaker 1: Sweet now yeah, now I know what y'all got.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You know, I'll put it into my AI algorithm and
Speaker 2: I'll see, uh, I say, god, yeah, who got the best,
Speaker 2: who got the better?
Speaker 4: Team?
Speaker 2: We know U c l A is uncomparable, So we
Speaker 2: won't even go there. Y'all can't compete with us.
Speaker 3: Who can?
Speaker 4: Kentucky?
Speaker 9: You crazy here? Come on do that, y'all got some
Speaker 9: compete Little House Center, so you need to know. Stop
Speaker 9: being Yeah, stop care Bill Kareem and Magic, like, come on, now,
Speaker 9: we ain't gonna do that.
Speaker 4: Now we're gonna do that.
Speaker 2: Lilis Center in college, bro, Loui Center in college is
Speaker 2: a phenomenon. We're not even We're not gonna magic. Come on, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: we're not gonna eat discust.
Speaker 4: Don't do that.
Speaker 3: We're not gonna He brought the book off that we
Speaker 3: brought off the bench on our team. Like that's how
Speaker 3: load he was.
Speaker 4: He wasn't good enough yet it's cool listen.
Speaker 3: Now he was cool. He just want to start yet
Speaker 3: he want to start yet?
Speaker 1: For sure, Hey, book about to break the all time
Speaker 1: leading score of record in finished history.
Speaker 4: So before he do it, I'm gonna just say right here,
Speaker 4: CONGRATU the book.
Speaker 3: That's all congratt.
Speaker 1: That's right, hey, but b the hold on Magic and
Speaker 1: ast come on.
Speaker 2: Three national championships.
Speaker 1: Magic one one years, one one sophomore year and got
Speaker 1: out of the hold on.
Speaker 4: Dre, hold on Dre?
Speaker 3: Who is he playing against? People?
Speaker 1: He beat Larry Birden and that championship. I know, I
Speaker 1: know magic, b I know magic. I'm about Korea was
Speaker 1: playing against b D. Yeah, that's what I said.
Speaker 3: I know mag He started cer Elvin Hayes.
Speaker 4: He was playing against Come on, man, he was playing
Speaker 4: against all kind of.
Speaker 3: No, they are great, I'm not. I couldn't wear number
Speaker 3: eleven in DC.
Speaker 4: See exactly.
Speaker 3: The teams we named it. It's like three or four guys.
Speaker 3: It's like that, you name a team, they got one.
Speaker 2: Guy who's gonna stop? Who's gonna stop?
Speaker 7: I couldn't wear them about stop, nobody's stopping them. But
Speaker 7: I'm putting a D on.
Speaker 1: Them and screamers ago. But I'm just saying, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna act like like I am gonna go. Y'all got
Speaker 1: kareem like we could sit right in that conversation.
Speaker 2: I'm not all when in college?
Speaker 1: In college? Are you? What?
Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Not? You could have did it again.
Speaker 4: It was just like my god, Los Angeles glasses, bros.
Speaker 3: Glass, Who's what you writing? In a chance?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 4: We want to hear the other U C l A player.
Speaker 1: Bill Walton and O'Bannon. No, no, Marks, No, no, it's
Speaker 1: because Mark. He came sting in this conversation. They all one,
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's fine, all one to Matt.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm saying Washing Championship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Magic just hey, you're not about to mention you better
Speaker 1: stop it in your uncle rounding out the five.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take myself off the five, gonna put Draymond's
Speaker 2: god uncle and the the creator of.
Speaker 4: The Warriors run Bob Myers.
Speaker 2: Talking about impact Now say something.
Speaker 4: I got no.
Speaker 3: Right, you can't do no shoulder that.
Speaker 2: I got no.
Speaker 4: Who's gonna stop Bob Myers.
Speaker 2: When he doubled down to Draymond, when he trimpled down
Speaker 2: on Draymond, I.
Speaker 4: Got no below for Bob. We're gonna We're gonna move on,
Speaker 4: Jay Wong.
Speaker 1: For you, what are you doing to containue to stay
Speaker 1: ready optimistic about returning to the NBA? Are you kind
Speaker 1: of moving on from that? Are you optimistic you still
Speaker 1: want to return? Kind of where you staying with that?
Speaker 3: I still like a year. I think like a year
Speaker 3: or two.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna give it, you know, I mean, but I'm
Speaker 7: still working out every day, you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: But doing broadcasting, getting into that field, you know, I
Speaker 7: mean trying to do some games.
Speaker 3: I went to the g LEA showcase speak on that.
Speaker 7: I mean, I think that's something like I still want
Speaker 7: to be involved in basketball, you know, I mean like broadcasting,
Speaker 7: try to be a GM one day. But also you know,
Speaker 7: me just doing business stuff, networking, I mean, investing in
Speaker 7: certain things. But most important thing I'm joining U is
Speaker 7: being a father. I mean being hands on, being able
Speaker 7: to be around my kids all day every day. I mean,
Speaker 7: they get into all the sports, you know. I mean
Speaker 7: my oldest son just asked me two weeks ago to
Speaker 7: play basketball. They kind of brought some brought some tear,
Speaker 7: enjoyed in my eyes. I didn't want to force, you know.
Speaker 7: I mean a lot of parents force their kids. I
Speaker 7: want him to fall in love with what he want
Speaker 7: to fall in lower. He loves soccer right now. He's
Speaker 7: a soccer star. So he just got into basketball, baseball.
Speaker 7: My youngest one, that's the football guy, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean, He playing flag football. They telling him for
Speaker 7: the flag.
Speaker 3: He hit the kids.
Speaker 7: Like I got one, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 7: I'm enjoying that though, you know. I mean I'm still
Speaker 7: like staying ready, putting the work, you know, me enjoying
Speaker 7: the game, watching it. But you I mean, you never
Speaker 7: know what happens. But I got like a I give
Speaker 7: it like another year, like next season, see what happens.
Speaker 7: If it don't happen, then I'm cool with like, you know,
Speaker 7: I mean giving it up. I mean, I feel like
Speaker 7: I had a great run. I wasn't mad about it.
Speaker 7: I mean, injury's a part of the game, like we
Speaker 7: talked about. But you know what I mean, basketball don't
Speaker 7: bounce for ever, you know, I mean, I always want
Speaker 7: to be known as something more important than just a
Speaker 7: basketball player. That was a great thing and a great
Speaker 7: run in my careb that's how it ends. But you know,
Speaker 7: I mean I got a lot more life to live,
Speaker 7: so I mean I can't trip off that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you got a lot more to give to
Speaker 4: the game. I know what I was.
Speaker 2: I call it basketball purgatory. When you want, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like I got one or two more years. I
Speaker 2: just want to walk off the court on my own
Speaker 2: terms and fill out one more time and find a
Speaker 2: young dude that the last young dude I can mentor
Speaker 2: I think you know all of that kind of like
Speaker 2: just tug at your soul. So I just wanted to know,
Speaker 2: you know, from you like going back to the league
Speaker 2: kind of what would Joe role, Like, what is your
Speaker 2: mentality you know going back into the league? You know
Speaker 2: in these and I would say not the last few
Speaker 2: I would say last few years, not too right, because
Speaker 2: having someone like you would be valuable to teams.
Speaker 7: Oh for me, like just be real, like you know me,
Speaker 7: I much always want to be an honest person. So
Speaker 7: for me, if I go to a team that need
Speaker 7: help and I feel like I could feel that voy cool.
Speaker 7: But if I go to a team where they're like,
Speaker 7: you know what, we won't even we just need you
Speaker 7: to be a great VET presence, I'm fine with that,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, because up front they're being
Speaker 7: honest with you know what I mean. It's kind of
Speaker 7: like you don't never want to be blind sided, you know,
Speaker 7: but it's all part of a business.
Speaker 3: But just let me know what it is.
Speaker 7: When I signed up for it, and if I signed
Speaker 7: those papers, I know what it is. I mean, I
Speaker 7: feel like I can help a lot of young guys out.
Speaker 7: I think a lot of teams need a vet to
Speaker 7: mentor these young guys. And that's even show them how
Speaker 7: to watch films, show them how to work, show them
Speaker 7: how to be a point guard. All those things I
Speaker 7: think I can help with. I'm cool with every role
Speaker 7: I get opportunity to be. And like you say, you
Speaker 7: want to go out the way you want to go
Speaker 7: out in and on the cruise sailing.
Speaker 1: That's the fact. Do you do you see team right
Speaker 1: now that you like that team?
Speaker 4: For sure?
Speaker 1: I could be a VET and help these guys out,
Speaker 1: to help culture all of those things.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I see if your team, I mean you got DC,
Speaker 7: especially your team I've been there before. I feel like
Speaker 7: you got Charlotte that can help the young guys out
Speaker 7: in LaMelo and Brandon Miller and those guys. I think, Utah,
Speaker 7: you're talking you some vets to help those guys out,
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. But I think a lot
Speaker 7: of a lot of these teams are doing a better
Speaker 7: job of adding the vets that they know that they
Speaker 7: need their days because a lot of times, you know,
Speaker 7: they was booting the vets out and I think because
Speaker 7: they was giving the vets kind of mixed signals like
Speaker 7: we might want you to play a lot of men
Speaker 7: that we might not. I think if you just tell
Speaker 7: them like you know what I mean, like kind of
Speaker 7: like a Todd Gibson role like he's doing I mean,
Speaker 7: and out there in Charlotte, you look like a Tricia
Speaker 7: Thompson row. He's helping those guys out in Cleve, you
Speaker 7: know what I mean. Like if I get in, I
Speaker 7: get in. If I don't, I'm here to help help
Speaker 7: the mentor and try to keep those guys on the
Speaker 7: right path. And I think I lead need to continue
Speaker 7: to have best even if it's me or not me
Speaker 7: down the road. I think all team need best to
Speaker 7: help me young guys, to keep them in that platform,
Speaker 7: to keep them to understand and like you said, we
Speaker 7: kind of got to get that old culture back to
Speaker 7: them to understanding it's not just sweet like these rookies
Speaker 7: get to walk in down. It's no rookie duties just
Speaker 7: cake walk though is handed to them. Like we all
Speaker 7: had to earn it, no matter if he was a
Speaker 7: top five pick, secon round pick on drafted. We had
Speaker 7: to earn what we had.
Speaker 2: Atlanta and New York too. I would add those two
Speaker 2: teams Atlanta and New York.
Speaker 3: New York and New York. You might not be a
Speaker 3: vegers on the sideline.
Speaker 4: Tears might have you doing.
Speaker 3: You guys like four guys in the I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, you know, New York, they gonna they gonna, they're
Speaker 2: gonna phase out, or they gonna tire out.
Speaker 3: They're gonna they're gonna burn out. They're gonna burn out.
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunston being a small guard to score a lot.
Speaker 2: I just see you being you know, you could be
Speaker 2: a key component defensively, you know, and help stabilize especially
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, right because you are born, you know,
Speaker 2: veterans are born for the playoffs. And I think that's
Speaker 2: where you know, you really are seeing the true value
Speaker 2: of an experienced guard and experience that because when you
Speaker 2: put them in in the playoffs, they've been there, they
Speaker 2: know and they know how valuable possessions are.
Speaker 3: So you know, I say the nixt and they had one.
Speaker 7: It's absolutely it's not for like a year of DC
Speaker 7: Man special and that's another guy we forgot, like didn't
Speaker 7: have Yeah, crazy been crazy boy, that's the fact. That's
Speaker 7: what he mastered.
Speaker 3: That mid range. Don't give.
Speaker 1: Blocking you to know you follow them, you're gonna foul
Speaker 1: every time like gonna give him to your three throws?
Speaker 4: Yeah, forget them?
Speaker 1: About this mid range in the game crazy before we
Speaker 1: get out of here. Always love a good list. Who's
Speaker 1: your top five number one picks since win since go
Speaker 1: back to? Yeah, two thousand, two thousand thousand, that's my decades.
Speaker 4: Every now from two thousand to now, and you the
Speaker 4: number one pick.
Speaker 2: You should be looking at his computer right now, John,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm letull.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the uh.
Speaker 3: You got? I go two thousand, I go me car.
Speaker 7: A d, Anthony Edwards and Wenby. I really wanted to
Speaker 7: put Polo up there, but I go Winby. I gotta
Speaker 7: put a man up there though.
Speaker 4: For sure, not Ben Simmons.
Speaker 3: But if you take me off, if I take if
Speaker 3: I take myself off, I put pollow in there. You
Speaker 3: know what I mean?
Speaker 4: But are you taking Kyrie? But are you taking yourself off?
Speaker 7: So you got no, I'm not me Kyrie. I'm the one, Kyrie,
Speaker 7: the two and my three A D is mine four
Speaker 7: and that when we played the five. It's a great
Speaker 7: top five.
Speaker 4: Zion no Zion, No, Ben Simmons.
Speaker 3: Don't start your Shitanians.
Speaker 4: Anthony Town see cat is up there.
Speaker 3: But like I just like d and then the ship
Speaker 3: when be doing.
Speaker 2: This kel folks, you got Markel folks.
Speaker 3: I think he would have been special if he didn't
Speaker 3: have this show.
Speaker 2: Anthony Anthony Bennett, Anthony Bennett, Hey, he might be close
Speaker 2: to man. He could have been a Draymond Green type
Speaker 2: of you know man.
Speaker 7: Like he started his crew. What he missed like his
Speaker 7: first with like twenty something shots? Yeah, oh yeah that
Speaker 7: I heard he didn't such back that.
Speaker 3: I think that's what.
Speaker 7: The first three games you don't score at all, Like
Speaker 7: you couldn't get a freak throw.
Speaker 3: I think they kind of killed this competence.
Speaker 4: No such you back, especially as number one.
Speaker 7: Pick what you you team on the first game, you
Speaker 7: might not might have a bad game, Like my first
Speaker 7: game we played Dwight.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Ship, I can't you live with this? This
Speaker 3: what Dwight women? I was like, damn, I mean I
Speaker 3: spent on the block. B.
Speaker 2: That's probably three that's probably year that you showed up like,
Speaker 2: oh that's No. One pick you got a dropping that damn. Hey, damn,
Speaker 2: you're out here. You're out here showing up serving don'tnuts out.
Speaker 2: That's gotta cut you know what.
Speaker 3: But you but then you know they said listening as
Speaker 3: you know that's mind because like am I like I ain't.
Speaker 2: Storing ship Am I asked, I scored? I scored?
Speaker 1: I think I think if he wasn't the number one pick,
Speaker 1: he would have.
Speaker 4: He would have asked a decent career.
Speaker 3: But like wh who went to that year? Ship?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: I shamed to be.
Speaker 3: He wasn't way before? Did he go three? Or four?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 3: Did Vic go too that year?
Speaker 4: Let's see to the match? I think maybe.
Speaker 3: Is that wade As draft? Yeah he was four, wad
Speaker 3: As four so I was three?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah and Vic was two yeah.
Speaker 3: Man, damn, I don't think they knew what to do.
Speaker 3: You know you look at like this, who for other people?
Speaker 2: One out of the I think I would Alex Alex Slay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and Bennett, Victor Oladipo, Otto, Porter, Cody Zeller, Alex Slayn,
Speaker 2: nurn Nerlandland, Ben Macklamore.
Speaker 3: He was supposed to be the number one pick, but
Speaker 3: he had towards A C. L.
Speaker 2: Y Van Macklamore seven, Contavious Pope, Uh he was bart
Speaker 2: nine uh c Z McCulloch. That Michael Carter Williams was
Speaker 2: the rookie of the year at eleven, Joannis was fifteen
Speaker 2: s even that twelve limit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody would have did that, but that it should
Speaker 3: have been you know, you goad. They looked.
Speaker 4: Twenty seven.
Speaker 3: He was a rude They got rudy.
Speaker 4: Go bear, he was twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Doing it today. Begin you keep my mouth closed. Today
Speaker 1: I a getting barbecue out. John Wall said it unanimous.
Speaker 3: I'm just sharing to like, listen, all right, this is
Speaker 3: my point.
Speaker 7: I gotta say. Then we could go wherever y'all want go.
Speaker 7: Your defensive plenty of boy. You gotta be able to
Speaker 7: guard people. You can't just get put on the.
Speaker 3: Bench for if I got to take you outcause you're
Speaker 3: getting cooked.
Speaker 2: How are you the defensive player here here?
Speaker 3: That's all I have just come to my friends all the.
Speaker 4: Time, like, bro, that don't make no sense at all,
Speaker 4: no no brain. Yeah tough.
Speaker 2: You mentioned a little bit that, uh we went back
Speaker 2: to the G League, win a showcase, start doing some
Speaker 2: analysts work.
Speaker 4: You know, talk about that. How is that feeling for you?
Speaker 4: You know what you like about that?
Speaker 7: It was dope, man, It was something new. I mean,
Speaker 7: try to branch out and try something else. But I
Speaker 7: mean I see Dre doing you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: I see Jamal Craffer, one of my good friends, in
Speaker 7: the lead doing it and I just get to talk
Speaker 7: about the game of basketball. That mean something that I
Speaker 7: love to do. And everybody always say you always talking
Speaker 7: about it twenty four to seven. Like when I'm watching
Speaker 7: the games, I'm always acting like I'm coaching. I'm playing still,
Speaker 7: So just being at envidem where I get to talk
Speaker 7: about the game and beer around the game I love.
Speaker 7: I'm willing to try to do possibly anything except of coaching.
Speaker 7: I just can't do no coaching. Young guys make you
Speaker 7: want to.
Speaker 2: Get over here with their man per dre you coaching to.
Speaker 3: Nelson over You're gonna be like okay in the court,
Speaker 3: like get what you get.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 3: You'll be that ten dollars for lunch.
Speaker 2: I can't do it doing walking in the gym with
Speaker 2: a man purse, not working hard, I mean fired, I
Speaker 2: mean fire.
Speaker 1: Bed.
Speaker 4: You can't do that today. I go in there, one
Speaker 4: of the ball boys cut all your fucking Louis.
Speaker 2: The time Luggie cut his purse up, I bett you.
Speaker 4: We get a reaction.
Speaker 2: Till his purse, my purse, my.
Speaker 4: Purse, Jay Wall, we appreciate you coming on the show. Brother.
Speaker 1: Good luck whenever you do decide that you're done with it.
Speaker 1: Congratulations on your jersey retirement, bro, because it's happening for sure.
Speaker 1: But man, just it's been an incredible journey and regardless
Speaker 1: of what happened with it, like what you did in
Speaker 1: the league, what you did coming from and just continued.
Speaker 1: Like you look at the young guards that come out
Speaker 1: or come out of Carolina like seep a little removed
Speaker 1: from them, you know what I'm saying, and like you
Speaker 1: kind of filled that gap, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like with Steph, Steph is from Charlotte, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: like that, right, Like Steph.
Speaker 4: Like he was the kid of an NBA player and
Speaker 4: so his upbring was just different.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was the guy that was giving
Speaker 1: a young kid from North Carolina hope, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, because his upbringing was different, and you
Speaker 1: were that guy who was like giving these young guys hope.
Speaker 1: And now you look at the Rob Dylly Hams, you know,
Speaker 1: you look at the the eight and Holloways, you know,
Speaker 1: and all these young guys coming out of Carolina like
Speaker 1: that come off the hills of what you did and
Speaker 1: what you brought and the swag that Rob Dillehan walk
Speaker 1: around with like that come off the hills of what
Speaker 1: you brought to the game, and we honored that. Bro,
Speaker 1: like a lot of people try to make it, you know,
Speaker 1: try not to respect was brother, your career stellar, lift
Speaker 1: up to the hype, but number one pick and live
Speaker 1: up to it.
Speaker 4: We we just talked about it, how many guys don't
Speaker 4: live up to it.
Speaker 1: Bro. So I just want to tip my hat to you, brother,
Speaker 1: Thank you, We thank you for coming.
Speaker 4: On the show.
Speaker 3: Appreciate that, appreciate thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: For sure, I want to just echo that, like your character, man,
Speaker 2: just keep walking in your light, you know, keep basketball
Speaker 2: around you. You are basketball, and like everything you gave
Speaker 2: to the game and given to the game, you know
Speaker 2: it's more to come. And you know who you are
Speaker 2: as a person and your game. You you like the
Speaker 2: pride of every kid growing up that was a half
Speaker 2: not you know, or a kid that want to have
Speaker 2: and so you are you your story and every every
Speaker 2: day you walk, you know, just know that you're giving
Speaker 2: that to people and your characters is what's going to
Speaker 2: continue to make you blossom for your second back. App
Speaker 2: that's that you know in basketball.
Speaker 3: Appreciate that, Appreciate every show solutely.
Speaker 1: That's a rap from this episode of The Draymond Green
Speaker 1: Show with My Dog b D special guest j Wall.
Speaker 4: We appreciate your brother the
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