1 00:00:08,245 --> 00:00:14,165 Speaker 1: School of Humans. Hello, welcome to cadaver Gals, the podcast 2 00:00:14,165 --> 00:00:16,405 Speaker 1: where we talk about all of the ways that people 3 00:00:16,405 --> 00:00:19,285 Speaker 1: have died throughout history in order to cope with our 4 00:00:19,325 --> 00:00:24,085 Speaker 1: own mortality. I'm your favorite host Taylor, along with Mika. 5 00:00:25,965 --> 00:00:29,405 Speaker 1: What those are my nails? Know what that's like? My 6 00:00:29,565 --> 00:00:34,805 Speaker 1: fighting stance? And Gabby Wait, hey, okay, so who's the 7 00:00:34,845 --> 00:00:38,565 Speaker 1: second favorite? Like? How? What? What's the order? Oh? I 8 00:00:38,605 --> 00:00:40,125 Speaker 1: don't know, I just know that I've got to be 9 00:00:40,165 --> 00:00:43,925 Speaker 1: the first probably literally why either? What is your one 10 00:00:43,965 --> 00:00:47,485 Speaker 1: reason I'm cudding? I'm I'm definitely everyone's lost favorite and 11 00:00:47,525 --> 00:00:52,645 Speaker 1: I'm fine. Way wait if we were the powder Puff Girls, though, 12 00:00:52,725 --> 00:00:56,605 Speaker 1: I feel like you would be wait what's everyone's name? 13 00:00:56,645 --> 00:00:59,365 Speaker 1: I forgot because I feel like you would be better Blossom. 14 00:00:59,645 --> 00:01:02,205 Speaker 1: I think Taylor would be Blossom. I think the Bosom, 15 00:01:02,565 --> 00:01:06,005 Speaker 1: the red one. Yeah, who's like the La and then 16 00:01:06,045 --> 00:01:11,565 Speaker 1: your bubbles? Yeah, and then I'm Buttercup. Yeah. I feel 17 00:01:11,565 --> 00:01:15,805 Speaker 1: like we actually embody those pretty well. So okaye, the 18 00:01:15,805 --> 00:01:18,885 Speaker 1: powder Puff Girls. Yeah, so even if you're not the 19 00:01:18,965 --> 00:01:23,765 Speaker 1: favorite tailor, you are the leader. Okay, great? Yeah, great, 20 00:01:23,965 --> 00:01:26,845 Speaker 1: that was great. This is a great way to start it. So, um, 21 00:01:26,925 --> 00:01:29,485 Speaker 1: today we're going to hear about how a woman made 22 00:01:29,605 --> 00:01:33,605 Speaker 1: her man overdre some water aerobics, and the last performance 23 00:01:33,605 --> 00:01:37,445 Speaker 1: of Moulie. Trigger warnings for this episode are include, but 24 00:01:37,445 --> 00:01:41,605 Speaker 1: are not limited to, drowning, electric shock, heart conditions, domestic abuse, 25 00:01:41,845 --> 00:01:49,605 Speaker 1: elderly abuse, crack, cocaine, blood, blood, and because of the 26 00:01:49,605 --> 00:01:54,005 Speaker 1: theater kids, Ah, they're scary. All yea, all, that's fantastic. 27 00:01:54,165 --> 00:02:13,245 Speaker 1: All right. Que alligator musical? Okay, welcome back. Love that music? 28 00:02:13,525 --> 00:02:15,965 Speaker 1: All right, Nika, do you want to take us away 29 00:02:16,605 --> 00:02:20,805 Speaker 1: with your dark too? Yes? Absolutely, And first I just 30 00:02:20,845 --> 00:02:23,085 Speaker 1: want to clarify. We have had comments asking why do 31 00:02:23,165 --> 00:02:26,085 Speaker 1: y'all call it alligator music? And the reason is because 32 00:02:26,165 --> 00:02:28,965 Speaker 1: the first time that we listened to it, I had 33 00:02:29,005 --> 00:02:32,805 Speaker 1: a vision and the vision was of like a alligator 34 00:02:32,845 --> 00:02:35,565 Speaker 1: in a swamp. He's retired, he's drinking a beer, and 35 00:02:35,565 --> 00:02:37,765 Speaker 1: that's the kind of music he listens to. It kind 36 00:02:37,765 --> 00:02:41,725 Speaker 1: of just stuck with everyone, I think, question Mark, Well, yeah, Also, 37 00:02:41,845 --> 00:02:46,805 Speaker 1: Cadavergals is the your premiere news source for gator related content. 38 00:02:47,005 --> 00:02:50,005 Speaker 1: That is true, that's what it is. So sadly we're 39 00:02:50,045 --> 00:02:52,685 Speaker 1: not talking about gators today, but you know so um 40 00:02:53,165 --> 00:02:56,125 Speaker 1: so that's why we do it. So what you think, Oh, 41 00:02:56,125 --> 00:02:59,165 Speaker 1: that's actually true. I'm not fully prepared. I'm gonna throw 42 00:02:59,205 --> 00:03:01,765 Speaker 1: it in somewhere. I'm gonna think. I'm gonna think. Okay, 43 00:03:01,965 --> 00:03:04,885 Speaker 1: everything can go back to gators. We can tie everything 44 00:03:04,925 --> 00:03:06,925 Speaker 1: back to the gate. I can make it happen. I 45 00:03:07,005 --> 00:03:10,325 Speaker 1: know you can. That's because your blossom. Yep. Okay. So 46 00:03:10,685 --> 00:03:14,285 Speaker 1: we are going to June's second two thousand and eight 47 00:03:14,645 --> 00:03:19,525 Speaker 1: Interesting Times to a very interesting couple in Middlefield, Ohio. 48 00:03:19,925 --> 00:03:26,005 Speaker 1: Amish country. You know what it is? So okay, okay, 49 00:03:26,365 --> 00:03:29,125 Speaker 1: Amish country. I'm so sorry to the Amish who listened 50 00:03:29,165 --> 00:03:35,445 Speaker 1: to us. So um, that is not laughable. It's illegal 51 00:03:35,525 --> 00:03:37,965 Speaker 1: for Amish people to listen to us. By illegal, I 52 00:03:38,005 --> 00:03:40,725 Speaker 1: mean their own belief system, but also maybe their taste 53 00:03:40,725 --> 00:03:45,205 Speaker 1: in media. You never know. I hope that there's one 54 00:03:45,245 --> 00:03:48,445 Speaker 1: Amish listener you know out there. There's not. They're just 55 00:03:48,565 --> 00:03:51,485 Speaker 1: holding it down. You don't know. Yeah, they're not. They're 56 00:03:51,485 --> 00:03:54,525 Speaker 1: not allowed to have electricity. Okay, what are they doing 57 00:03:54,565 --> 00:03:57,325 Speaker 1: it secretly? Are they just overhear us as a car 58 00:03:57,405 --> 00:04:00,165 Speaker 1: that's driving by, and they get so seduced by the 59 00:04:00,165 --> 00:04:02,205 Speaker 1: sound of the podcast that they're like, we got to 60 00:04:02,245 --> 00:04:07,885 Speaker 1: follow that in our buggy a buggy nah its pictured 61 00:04:07,885 --> 00:04:13,285 Speaker 1: like the Flyntstone's buggy. Okay, So local police receive a 62 00:04:13,365 --> 00:04:15,845 Speaker 1: call and he'll know it's always badmen. Local police receive 63 00:04:15,885 --> 00:04:22,445 Speaker 1: a call about an unresponsive man in an apartment This 64 00:04:22,485 --> 00:04:23,805 Speaker 1: is so sad I got a tot of down in 65 00:04:23,845 --> 00:04:26,445 Speaker 1: an apartment complex pool. And they arrive at the scene 66 00:04:26,565 --> 00:04:30,005 Speaker 1: to find Chris Mason, a forty one year old transgender woman, 67 00:04:30,525 --> 00:04:34,485 Speaker 1: James Mason, her seventy three year old husband, and Chris's mom, 68 00:04:34,565 --> 00:04:37,005 Speaker 1: who is also in her seventies and in a wheelchair. 69 00:04:37,045 --> 00:04:38,565 Speaker 1: Do we have all the main players here? Do we 70 00:04:38,645 --> 00:04:43,605 Speaker 1: understand what's going on? Three people? Wait, who's the one 71 00:04:43,645 --> 00:04:48,925 Speaker 1: in the pool? The one in the pool is Chris's husband, James, James, 72 00:04:49,045 --> 00:04:52,405 Speaker 1: Chris and Chris's mom. Yeah, I just I couldn't find 73 00:04:52,445 --> 00:04:54,805 Speaker 1: her name, or maybe I did, but I didn't write 74 00:04:54,805 --> 00:04:59,965 Speaker 1: a zone. Okay. Anyway, So James had collapsed right outside 75 00:04:59,965 --> 00:05:02,005 Speaker 1: of the pool and had a heart attack, and the 76 00:05:02,005 --> 00:05:04,885 Speaker 1: authorities rushed into the hospital, but by then it was 77 00:05:05,045 --> 00:05:07,965 Speaker 1: to lay and they had to put him on life support. Bad. 78 00:05:08,565 --> 00:05:12,125 Speaker 1: He had coordinary artery disease, which obviously made s journeous 79 00:05:12,125 --> 00:05:16,485 Speaker 1: activity pretty dangerous. So far, all of this tracks very normal. 80 00:05:17,165 --> 00:05:19,405 Speaker 1: You know, you're in your seventies kind of stuff. Okay. 81 00:05:19,805 --> 00:05:22,645 Speaker 1: He spent that night on life support, and then his wife, Chris, 82 00:05:22,925 --> 00:05:27,485 Speaker 1: decided to cut off his life support the next day. Okay, 83 00:05:27,605 --> 00:05:29,365 Speaker 1: so I thought you were about to say, like cut 84 00:05:29,365 --> 00:05:35,325 Speaker 1: off his legs or something, but um no. Anyway, so 85 00:05:36,085 --> 00:05:38,765 Speaker 1: everything is relatively normal to this point. But then authorities 86 00:05:39,365 --> 00:05:41,805 Speaker 1: they weren't sure what happened at first, and Chris blamed 87 00:05:41,805 --> 00:05:46,165 Speaker 1: it on over exercise, as it seemed like happened. However, 88 00:05:46,685 --> 00:05:49,685 Speaker 1: there was a camera in the pool that caught everything 89 00:05:49,925 --> 00:05:52,645 Speaker 1: on tape, and when they reviewed it, the results were 90 00:05:52,765 --> 00:05:58,845 Speaker 1: really really disturbing. So basically, yeah, that's why it's on 91 00:05:58,845 --> 00:06:03,205 Speaker 1: the show. Basically, the footage shows Chris and James in 92 00:06:03,245 --> 00:06:05,925 Speaker 1: the pool of the apartment complex and Chris his mom 93 00:06:06,205 --> 00:06:10,005 Speaker 1: is nearby in her wheelchair sitting okay, and Chris, who 94 00:06:10,085 --> 00:06:12,845 Speaker 1: is two times the size of James and obviously much younger. 95 00:06:13,485 --> 00:06:15,845 Speaker 1: It seems like in the in the video she is 96 00:06:15,965 --> 00:06:19,525 Speaker 1: forcing him to exercise. And I saw one still of 97 00:06:19,565 --> 00:06:23,045 Speaker 1: the video where it looks like he was trying to 98 00:06:23,085 --> 00:06:25,885 Speaker 1: sit by the edge of the pool and she dragged 99 00:06:25,925 --> 00:06:30,325 Speaker 1: him in by his ankles. This man is seventy three. Yeah. 100 00:06:30,365 --> 00:06:33,165 Speaker 1: She also tossed him and dunked him into the water 101 00:06:33,725 --> 00:06:37,245 Speaker 1: multiple times, like head underwater, like holding him under basically 102 00:06:38,165 --> 00:06:41,365 Speaker 1: and wow. Yes, and he has seen clinging to the 103 00:06:41,405 --> 00:06:44,565 Speaker 1: side of the pool, but um, she drags him into 104 00:06:44,605 --> 00:06:48,005 Speaker 1: the middle to swim. The authorities also saw that he 105 00:06:48,085 --> 00:06:50,845 Speaker 1: tried to get out of the pool forty three times, 106 00:06:51,085 --> 00:06:56,365 Speaker 1: but blocks his way every single time. Damn. That is 107 00:06:56,445 --> 00:07:01,205 Speaker 1: Chris is like not a good personal chainer, you know, no, no, 108 00:07:01,925 --> 00:07:06,565 Speaker 1: there is so much about this story that is disturbing. 109 00:07:06,765 --> 00:07:09,045 Speaker 1: A big one for me is that Chris's mom, the 110 00:07:09,085 --> 00:07:12,245 Speaker 1: woman in the wheelchair, was really close with James because 111 00:07:12,725 --> 00:07:15,765 Speaker 1: James actually knew Chris when she was a baby, like 112 00:07:16,325 --> 00:07:19,965 Speaker 1: pre transition, pre anything. He like was very close to 113 00:07:20,085 --> 00:07:23,685 Speaker 1: Chris's mom because he kind of appeared at Chris's mom's 114 00:07:23,685 --> 00:07:27,085 Speaker 1: house one day and be basically became a boarder at 115 00:07:27,125 --> 00:07:29,325 Speaker 1: at her house, which for me is so weird, Like 116 00:07:29,885 --> 00:07:32,365 Speaker 1: does this just happen, Like people just come to your 117 00:07:32,365 --> 00:07:34,005 Speaker 1: house and ask to board and then they do, and 118 00:07:34,005 --> 00:07:37,165 Speaker 1: then they become lifelong friends. I don't know, maybe I've 119 00:07:37,165 --> 00:07:40,165 Speaker 1: never heard of that. I mean, I would definitely make 120 00:07:40,205 --> 00:07:42,805 Speaker 1: them pay rent. I mean, if someone would pay half 121 00:07:42,805 --> 00:07:45,685 Speaker 1: my rent, that'd be fine, but they would have to 122 00:07:45,725 --> 00:07:48,605 Speaker 1: live in the bathtub, okay, which is outside, So I'm 123 00:07:48,645 --> 00:07:53,045 Speaker 1: not even technically Well, did you get moved so I 124 00:07:53,085 --> 00:07:58,125 Speaker 1: don't have the bathrooms? My sister's bathtub became the tub 125 00:07:59,285 --> 00:08:02,845 Speaker 1: she did, and this will now be the second time 126 00:08:02,925 --> 00:08:05,125 Speaker 1: she has moved the tub from one house to another 127 00:08:05,165 --> 00:08:07,965 Speaker 1: house and it has never been used. It just sits there. 128 00:08:08,045 --> 00:08:13,045 Speaker 1: It's for mosquitoes. It's a mosquito tub that can actually 129 00:08:13,085 --> 00:08:16,805 Speaker 1: seriously attract mosquitoes. Like, yeah, it does. So let me 130 00:08:16,805 --> 00:08:19,765 Speaker 1: tell you the science is true. I've done the experiment, 131 00:08:20,245 --> 00:08:24,725 Speaker 1: well my sister has, and I've just been like, okay, 132 00:08:24,725 --> 00:08:29,085 Speaker 1: well that sounds like a personal problem. But so I 133 00:08:29,125 --> 00:08:31,845 Speaker 1: have a question. Does the Amish thing have anything to 134 00:08:31,885 --> 00:08:33,965 Speaker 1: do with this story or did you just say it's 135 00:08:34,005 --> 00:08:37,325 Speaker 1: Amish country. I just they just live. They just live 136 00:08:37,485 --> 00:08:42,325 Speaker 1: where a lot of Amish people are. Okay, cool, great, um, 137 00:08:42,365 --> 00:08:48,565 Speaker 1: but thanks for clarifying. So it is super scary to 138 00:08:48,605 --> 00:08:51,685 Speaker 1: me that she was very close with James. They were 139 00:08:51,685 --> 00:08:56,005 Speaker 1: all living together under one house, and then she like 140 00:08:56,125 --> 00:08:58,725 Speaker 1: he was a very close friend to the entire family. 141 00:08:58,725 --> 00:09:00,605 Speaker 1: He was like an uncle to Chris and her sisters. 142 00:09:00,965 --> 00:09:03,645 Speaker 1: And so Chris's mom is just sitting there watching all 143 00:09:03,685 --> 00:09:06,885 Speaker 1: of this happen, watching her friend James be mistreated by 144 00:09:06,965 --> 00:09:10,525 Speaker 1: her own daughter, and she does nothing. That's like very 145 00:09:10,565 --> 00:09:13,205 Speaker 1: weird to me. I just think that is quite disturbing. Anyway. 146 00:09:13,845 --> 00:09:15,925 Speaker 1: Another thing it's super sketchy to me is that Chris 147 00:09:15,925 --> 00:09:19,045 Speaker 1: actually worked as a healthcare aid for the elderly, but 148 00:09:19,125 --> 00:09:21,125 Speaker 1: she didn't notice the negative effects of the exercise she 149 00:09:21,165 --> 00:09:24,005 Speaker 1: was forcing James into like she would like she should 150 00:09:24,005 --> 00:09:26,645 Speaker 1: have known better, is basically what I'm saying, which is 151 00:09:26,725 --> 00:09:31,165 Speaker 1: kind of weird. Most people know to not dunk people underwater, 152 00:09:31,525 --> 00:09:35,645 Speaker 1: not like actually like literally pick people up and throw 153 00:09:35,685 --> 00:09:37,845 Speaker 1: them into a pool. Mind you, the pool was only 154 00:09:37,885 --> 00:09:42,285 Speaker 1: four feet deep. That's wow, that's not Yeah, this don't 155 00:09:42,325 --> 00:09:45,925 Speaker 1: make sense. I mean, if they're all living together with 156 00:09:46,005 --> 00:09:48,125 Speaker 1: Chris and her sisters and her mom, this is kind 157 00:09:48,165 --> 00:09:52,405 Speaker 1: of sounding like a beguiled situation like that movie where 158 00:09:52,525 --> 00:09:56,245 Speaker 1: it's like, anyway, I mean, that's how that's how they 159 00:09:56,285 --> 00:10:01,565 Speaker 1: grew up. And then it seems like when Chris transitioned. 160 00:10:01,765 --> 00:10:05,405 Speaker 1: Three years after she transitioned, she and James got married 161 00:10:05,645 --> 00:10:09,005 Speaker 1: and then moved into an apartment that apartment complex, also 162 00:10:09,325 --> 00:10:13,765 Speaker 1: taking Chris's mom with her, and actually, prior to the death, 163 00:10:13,965 --> 00:10:16,445 Speaker 1: Chris's mom told Chris like, I can't live with you anymore. 164 00:10:16,645 --> 00:10:21,125 Speaker 1: You are I just I can't do it. So interesting. 165 00:10:21,245 --> 00:10:23,165 Speaker 1: Did she have a reason or she just she said 166 00:10:23,325 --> 00:10:26,125 Speaker 1: it's quoted. I love Chris, but I couldn't live with 167 00:10:26,125 --> 00:10:30,805 Speaker 1: her anymore. Okay, we've all been there. We've all been 168 00:10:30,845 --> 00:10:35,045 Speaker 1: there exactly. My sister in her tub, you know, Yeah, 169 00:10:35,605 --> 00:10:38,005 Speaker 1: I love her, can't live with that tub anymore. I 170 00:10:38,085 --> 00:10:41,085 Speaker 1: can't live with it. Um. Yeah, it seems like, you know, 171 00:10:41,165 --> 00:10:44,485 Speaker 1: James was a very mild mannered kind and he was 172 00:10:44,525 --> 00:10:47,005 Speaker 1: a little bit of a people pleaser. He was a veteran. 173 00:10:47,485 --> 00:10:49,885 Speaker 1: He was just very close with the family. Chris's sister 174 00:10:49,965 --> 00:10:52,325 Speaker 1: says that she didn't find out about the marriage until 175 00:10:52,365 --> 00:10:55,325 Speaker 1: after it happened, and she feels like Chris might have 176 00:10:55,325 --> 00:10:58,405 Speaker 1: just convinced James to do it. Like the couple was 177 00:10:58,485 --> 00:11:01,965 Speaker 1: kind of described as Chris having a very domineering personality 178 00:11:01,965 --> 00:11:05,925 Speaker 1: and then James being timid and relatively like me and 179 00:11:06,045 --> 00:11:09,285 Speaker 1: just someone who you know. The sisters quoted saying you 180 00:11:09,285 --> 00:11:10,725 Speaker 1: would tell James Hey, let's go to the movies and 181 00:11:10,885 --> 00:11:14,525 Speaker 1: be like okay to really like anything. Her mom also 182 00:11:14,605 --> 00:11:17,645 Speaker 1: says that she didn't see any harsh treatment that day 183 00:11:17,685 --> 00:11:21,405 Speaker 1: at the pool, but that she had witnessed abuse on 184 00:11:21,485 --> 00:11:25,325 Speaker 1: Chris's end in the past, like one time Chris picked 185 00:11:25,405 --> 00:11:30,485 Speaker 1: up and threw a chair that James was sitting in. What, Yeah, 186 00:11:30,685 --> 00:11:33,645 Speaker 1: like swiped it out from underneath him. Yeah, chucked it 187 00:11:33,765 --> 00:11:37,485 Speaker 1: through it, yeah, Or one time Chris's mom walked into 188 00:11:37,605 --> 00:11:39,725 Speaker 1: their living room and saw that James was standing in 189 00:11:39,765 --> 00:11:42,085 Speaker 1: a corner with his eyes to the wall because Chris 190 00:11:42,125 --> 00:11:45,285 Speaker 1: told him too, So stuff like that. Also, there had 191 00:11:45,325 --> 00:11:49,525 Speaker 1: been many like elderly safety checks because a lot of 192 00:11:49,565 --> 00:11:55,165 Speaker 1: neighbors heard routine screaming and throwing furniture around in the apartment. 193 00:11:56,605 --> 00:12:00,485 Speaker 1: So great. Yeah, And what's what's annoying to me is 194 00:12:00,485 --> 00:12:02,725 Speaker 1: that Chris's mom is like, I don't mean to talk 195 00:12:02,725 --> 00:12:06,085 Speaker 1: badly about Chris, like in the interviews, or like, no, 196 00:12:06,205 --> 00:12:09,925 Speaker 1: Chris like loved James very much, but then bespilling like everything, 197 00:12:10,045 --> 00:12:12,765 Speaker 1: like literally, Chris's mom in an interview goes, I don't 198 00:12:12,805 --> 00:12:15,205 Speaker 1: want to make things MESSI or talk bad about Chris. 199 00:12:15,245 --> 00:12:18,885 Speaker 1: But she was a crack cocaine user before, and I'm 200 00:12:18,925 --> 00:12:21,845 Speaker 1: just like, oh my gosh, lady, like, what is going on? 201 00:12:22,205 --> 00:12:24,845 Speaker 1: Where is your head at? This is crazy. She's just 202 00:12:24,925 --> 00:12:28,725 Speaker 1: trying to, you know, spit some truths while also being like, 203 00:12:28,765 --> 00:12:31,525 Speaker 1: I'm the mom and this is a really bad situation. 204 00:12:32,165 --> 00:12:34,925 Speaker 1: So it was a little bit tricky because the authorities 205 00:12:35,045 --> 00:12:39,365 Speaker 1: couldn't necessarily find evidence of foul play. Chris was receiving 206 00:12:39,405 --> 00:12:41,765 Speaker 1: money from James because he was a veteran, and it 207 00:12:41,805 --> 00:12:43,965 Speaker 1: seems like there was a retirement account that she got 208 00:12:44,005 --> 00:12:47,245 Speaker 1: a hold of after his death, so that could be 209 00:12:47,285 --> 00:12:51,005 Speaker 1: a thing. Her mom also, apart from admitting about Chris's 210 00:12:51,125 --> 00:12:54,845 Speaker 1: drug addiction, also said that Chris had been arrested for 211 00:12:54,885 --> 00:12:57,405 Speaker 1: smaller things such as like a bar fight in the 212 00:12:57,445 --> 00:12:59,525 Speaker 1: past where she is not allowed anymore to go to 213 00:12:59,525 --> 00:13:03,805 Speaker 1: that bar, and just other like aggressive behaviors basically, so 214 00:13:03,885 --> 00:13:07,285 Speaker 1: she had had encounters with the police before. But ultimately 215 00:13:07,365 --> 00:13:10,725 Speaker 1: they couldn't prove that Chris had malicious intent because there 216 00:13:10,845 --> 00:13:14,885 Speaker 1: was an audio on the footage and it was hard 217 00:13:14,965 --> 00:13:19,205 Speaker 1: to determine what was going on essentially, So and also 218 00:13:19,285 --> 00:13:26,325 Speaker 1: I think Chris's lawyer used some psychological like Chris isn't okay, 219 00:13:26,365 --> 00:13:30,885 Speaker 1: like psychologically kind of situation to hopefully lessen the sentence. 220 00:13:31,045 --> 00:13:34,125 Speaker 1: So that's what happened. So they gave Chris four years 221 00:13:34,165 --> 00:13:38,965 Speaker 1: for reckless homicide after she pleaded guilty, and Chris's mom 222 00:13:39,005 --> 00:13:41,445 Speaker 1: was okay with it. According to the interviews, James's sister 223 00:13:42,325 --> 00:13:44,605 Speaker 1: was really upset about it, and she says that after 224 00:13:44,725 --> 00:13:47,645 Speaker 1: James was cremated, Chris called her and asked her to 225 00:13:48,445 --> 00:13:50,925 Speaker 1: pick this up and do something with it. I guard 226 00:13:51,085 --> 00:13:53,445 Speaker 1: like the ashes. Basically, she didn't want to have anything 227 00:13:53,445 --> 00:13:56,205 Speaker 1: to do with the ashes. And also when the funeral happened, 228 00:13:56,245 --> 00:13:59,485 Speaker 1: Chris didn't attend the funeral. So James's sisters like, she's 229 00:13:59,525 --> 00:14:04,365 Speaker 1: faking it, and that's what happened. Wow, Okay, what a 230 00:14:04,445 --> 00:14:09,645 Speaker 1: happiest story. Yeah, and that's what happened. All right, thank you, Nika. 231 00:14:10,165 --> 00:14:19,365 Speaker 1: We will be right back. Okay, welcome back. So, pools, exhaustion, 232 00:14:19,805 --> 00:14:24,645 Speaker 1: terrible deaths. Everyone knows that pool safety is a thing. 233 00:14:24,845 --> 00:14:28,845 Speaker 1: So and there are all kinds of dangers. Oh yeah, 234 00:14:28,885 --> 00:14:30,685 Speaker 1: I see how it's related because there's a pool in 235 00:14:30,685 --> 00:14:33,125 Speaker 1: the previous story. Yeah yeah, and now we're talking about 236 00:14:33,125 --> 00:14:36,405 Speaker 1: pool safety. Wow, yeah, what do you know? Is it 237 00:14:36,445 --> 00:14:38,765 Speaker 1: true that you can't eat before swimming. That was literally 238 00:14:38,805 --> 00:14:41,365 Speaker 1: the first thing I was gonna say, Oh, way, yes, 239 00:14:42,285 --> 00:14:46,645 Speaker 1: so there is the rule because it's like very very 240 00:14:46,645 --> 00:14:49,965 Speaker 1: obvious or that's like a very common thing. Everyone's heard 241 00:14:49,965 --> 00:14:52,885 Speaker 1: that rumor that you can't swim after eating. But that 242 00:14:53,045 --> 00:14:55,765 Speaker 1: is just a myth. Just I think that it was 243 00:14:55,845 --> 00:14:57,885 Speaker 1: just that our parents wanted to break from watching us 244 00:14:57,885 --> 00:15:01,045 Speaker 1: in the pool. But the theory was that getting in 245 00:15:01,085 --> 00:15:05,925 Speaker 1: the water diverts the blood flow during the digestion and 246 00:15:06,285 --> 00:15:10,445 Speaker 1: the necessary bloodflow to your stomach. So but it's just 247 00:15:10,445 --> 00:15:14,085 Speaker 1: still lies, eat them snacks, swim, live your life. I'm 248 00:15:14,125 --> 00:15:18,725 Speaker 1: so surprised because that's like a big part of my childhood. Yeah, 249 00:15:18,885 --> 00:15:21,965 Speaker 1: I literally think that it was just I mean, I 250 00:15:21,965 --> 00:15:24,565 Speaker 1: guess it's something that people heard, but nobody really knew why. 251 00:15:25,125 --> 00:15:26,965 Speaker 1: But I actually think it was just an excuse for 252 00:15:27,045 --> 00:15:30,045 Speaker 1: parents to like take a break because it's stressful watching 253 00:15:30,085 --> 00:15:32,165 Speaker 1: a bunch of kids, like watching kids in a pool, 254 00:15:32,845 --> 00:15:35,165 Speaker 1: very stressful because you know, yeah, I'm in brother, WinCE, 255 00:15:35,205 --> 00:15:39,885 Speaker 1: I'm almost drowning exactly. Brothers do that. Yeah, we've all 256 00:15:39,925 --> 00:15:42,925 Speaker 1: been there. Oh. One of the bigger dangers and true 257 00:15:43,005 --> 00:15:47,085 Speaker 1: dangers is swimming during a thunder storm or I guess 258 00:15:47,165 --> 00:15:51,005 Speaker 1: lightning storm. And so we all know that electricity and 259 00:15:51,085 --> 00:15:54,485 Speaker 1: water does not mix, but I've never really known why. 260 00:15:54,725 --> 00:15:58,685 Speaker 1: So here's some science I read. It's because electricity is 261 00:15:58,685 --> 00:16:03,565 Speaker 1: a scorpio and then water. Well, I guess actually the 262 00:16:03,605 --> 00:16:07,205 Speaker 1: water would be a scorpio water sign like a Libra 263 00:16:07,325 --> 00:16:09,685 Speaker 1: or something because it's an air sign. Yeah yeah, or 264 00:16:09,805 --> 00:16:12,525 Speaker 1: like a Sagittarius or something. I feel like they wouldn't 265 00:16:12,525 --> 00:16:14,405 Speaker 1: get on very well. I get it, you know, like 266 00:16:14,565 --> 00:16:17,525 Speaker 1: maybe there's like intense attraction, but that's like we don't 267 00:16:17,565 --> 00:16:20,405 Speaker 1: actually like it. It's like very toxic levers and scorpios 268 00:16:20,405 --> 00:16:22,325 Speaker 1: actually get along really well. So I agree with keeping 269 00:16:22,325 --> 00:16:30,085 Speaker 1: it a sage very Oh wait, Taylor, I'm very electrifying. 270 00:16:30,725 --> 00:16:34,645 Speaker 1: Um so fun fact, it isn't the water that's the problem. 271 00:16:35,445 --> 00:16:38,965 Speaker 1: It's the impurities like minerals and dust or in your 272 00:16:38,965 --> 00:16:42,725 Speaker 1: water and dissolve so like pure water or distilled water 273 00:16:43,125 --> 00:16:49,005 Speaker 1: doesn't actually conduct electricity. It's actually an electrical insulator. But 274 00:16:49,805 --> 00:16:52,165 Speaker 1: don't like get it twisted. I'm not telling you to 275 00:16:52,205 --> 00:16:55,765 Speaker 1: go like do some weird science shit like please don't 276 00:16:55,805 --> 00:16:59,965 Speaker 1: do that. Are you saying my water is dusty? Tailor 277 00:17:00,125 --> 00:17:02,445 Speaker 1: I show up, I am. There's all kinds of stuff 278 00:17:02,485 --> 00:17:08,165 Speaker 1: like you know in in water sharks ss. Well, there's 279 00:17:08,165 --> 00:17:13,165 Speaker 1: a lot of things that alligators that yes, that is 280 00:17:13,165 --> 00:17:16,005 Speaker 1: where I was gonna go with this, But there's a 281 00:17:16,045 --> 00:17:17,805 Speaker 1: lot of things that are dissolved in the water that 282 00:17:18,005 --> 00:17:23,725 Speaker 1: have ions, which are electrically charged when electric voltage is introduced, 283 00:17:24,085 --> 00:17:27,165 Speaker 1: and that is what actually what is conducting the electricity. 284 00:17:27,525 --> 00:17:30,725 Speaker 1: So the ocean has salt and other all kinds of 285 00:17:30,765 --> 00:17:34,925 Speaker 1: other crap making it extra conducting. And you know, you 286 00:17:35,045 --> 00:17:40,285 Speaker 1: got your alligators and crocod dills. So even with distilled 287 00:17:40,325 --> 00:17:43,725 Speaker 1: with ions, yeah, they're filled with ions, and the ions 288 00:17:44,005 --> 00:17:47,605 Speaker 1: or what is conducting the elect the electricy we have ions? 289 00:17:47,725 --> 00:17:51,605 Speaker 1: Are we dusty? We're yeah, we're so dusty. I mean 290 00:17:51,725 --> 00:17:56,205 Speaker 1: two of us are definitely dusty. One of us is not. Okay, 291 00:17:56,205 --> 00:17:59,485 Speaker 1: well I took a shower this morning, so okay, okay. 292 00:18:01,365 --> 00:18:04,045 Speaker 1: But even with distilled water, there are elements that can 293 00:18:04,085 --> 00:18:06,605 Speaker 1: get in there, like from the container or like you know, 294 00:18:07,005 --> 00:18:09,045 Speaker 1: I keep saying dust, but like dust from the air. 295 00:18:09,085 --> 00:18:11,605 Speaker 1: They get in there. So like I'm not saying, like 296 00:18:11,645 --> 00:18:14,245 Speaker 1: if you fill your pool with distilled water, that's that's 297 00:18:14,325 --> 00:18:17,005 Speaker 1: not gonna it's still not okay because there's still stuff 298 00:18:17,005 --> 00:18:20,565 Speaker 1: in the air that's gonna get in there. So obviously 299 00:18:20,685 --> 00:18:23,245 Speaker 1: it's true. It's true that if you, you know, I 300 00:18:23,325 --> 00:18:24,765 Speaker 1: want to go for a swim, but there's like a 301 00:18:24,845 --> 00:18:27,285 Speaker 1: lightning storm, you shouldn't because maybe the lightning will be 302 00:18:27,325 --> 00:18:30,645 Speaker 1: attracted to the water and the ions in the water. Correct, correct, 303 00:18:30,885 --> 00:18:34,885 Speaker 1: but not maybe like definitely, oh like one hundred and 304 00:18:35,005 --> 00:18:39,245 Speaker 1: ten percent, million percent, yes, like Nica, make better choices. 305 00:18:39,805 --> 00:18:44,165 Speaker 1: Do not get if there's a gator in your pool, 306 00:18:44,405 --> 00:18:48,925 Speaker 1: definitely don't swim and that pool heard because of the ions, 307 00:18:49,405 --> 00:18:53,125 Speaker 1: because of the ions, right, because the alligator has his 308 00:18:53,245 --> 00:19:00,245 Speaker 1: eye on you. No, I'm gonna go down. I'm gonna 309 00:19:00,285 --> 00:19:04,125 Speaker 1: excuse myself. Oh I just didn't joke. Okay, you're dead. 310 00:19:04,245 --> 00:19:06,405 Speaker 1: I'm gonna mark it. Maybe will use it as the 311 00:19:06,525 --> 00:19:12,005 Speaker 1: do do. Yeah, there you go, so full circle. We 312 00:19:12,125 --> 00:19:17,245 Speaker 1: did it. Um. But obviously, so that being said, you're 313 00:19:17,285 --> 00:19:20,645 Speaker 1: swimming in a pool, storm comes rolling in, you're chilling 314 00:19:20,725 --> 00:19:25,085 Speaker 1: in a vat of electric conductivity, and lightning is electricity. 315 00:19:25,645 --> 00:19:30,645 Speaker 1: Ergo danger because you don't want electricity in your body, 316 00:19:30,725 --> 00:19:35,165 Speaker 1: because you could, like it just messes with everything. It 317 00:19:35,205 --> 00:19:37,245 Speaker 1: can stop your heart and you know what happens when 318 00:19:37,245 --> 00:19:40,245 Speaker 1: that happens. Are you telling us that we shouldn't get 319 00:19:40,285 --> 00:19:43,365 Speaker 1: struck by lightning? I'm also telling you that, yes, what 320 00:19:43,525 --> 00:19:46,685 Speaker 1: the hell, Taylor? Yeah, come back, I'm sorry unless you're 321 00:19:46,725 --> 00:19:50,125 Speaker 1: a Sagittarius, because then you're very electric. What am I 322 00:19:50,125 --> 00:19:53,725 Speaker 1: gonna do during a thunderstorm? Now? Well, stay in doors? 323 00:19:54,405 --> 00:19:56,525 Speaker 1: If if there's a thunderstorm, but you want to dance 324 00:19:56,565 --> 00:20:01,045 Speaker 1: in the rain, Um, is that is that bad? Yeah? Fuck, 325 00:20:01,565 --> 00:20:04,925 Speaker 1: it's all bad. Also, if you're like outside, like mowing 326 00:20:04,965 --> 00:20:07,685 Speaker 1: the lawn, like using power tools or something out in 327 00:20:07,685 --> 00:20:12,885 Speaker 1: the rain, you shouldn't do that as well. I didn't. Well, luckily, luckily, 328 00:20:13,005 --> 00:20:18,005 Speaker 1: I do not do any chores, so yeah, Gabby really doesn't. 329 00:20:18,245 --> 00:20:20,725 Speaker 1: How are you going to live alone? Gabby M Yeah, 330 00:20:21,165 --> 00:20:23,725 Speaker 1: well I don't have a yard anymore, so ten out 331 00:20:23,765 --> 00:20:28,285 Speaker 1: of ten. That's also, I'm not going to have any things. Great, 332 00:20:29,045 --> 00:20:31,885 Speaker 1: so I don't have to do anything. Well, I'm going 333 00:20:31,965 --> 00:20:34,725 Speaker 1: to ask you to do one thing, and that is 334 00:20:35,045 --> 00:20:38,685 Speaker 1: for you to tell your story. Wow, Okay, I was 335 00:20:38,765 --> 00:20:45,165 Speaker 1: born in October in nineteen great, we vote went in October. Gabby? Second, 336 00:20:45,205 --> 00:20:48,165 Speaker 1: remember your birthday? You know it just think about it. 337 00:20:48,285 --> 00:20:50,765 Speaker 1: Just think you know it? You know it? Nica? Oh 338 00:20:50,805 --> 00:20:55,045 Speaker 1: my god, is it Halloween? Yes? I knew it. See 339 00:20:55,405 --> 00:20:58,525 Speaker 1: you knew it? Um yeah, listener, my birthday's on Halloween. 340 00:20:58,565 --> 00:21:01,525 Speaker 1: So Benmobi sixty nine dollars because that worked for Uniqua. 341 00:21:01,645 --> 00:21:05,165 Speaker 1: Someone Ben Modu five dollars to join our hippo cult. 342 00:21:05,645 --> 00:21:08,765 Speaker 1: So funny to me, and I hope you share it 343 00:21:09,165 --> 00:21:15,525 Speaker 1: evenly distributed to the three of us. Absolutely, yeah, drinks 344 00:21:15,525 --> 00:21:21,805 Speaker 1: on me, you guys, well, I'll like yeah literally, Oh 345 00:21:21,885 --> 00:21:25,645 Speaker 1: we could get one well yeah, three fourths of the shot. Yeah, 346 00:21:25,685 --> 00:21:32,925 Speaker 1: we can get maybe one shot. Cheap shot. Yeah, cheap shot. 347 00:21:33,245 --> 00:21:37,365 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Taylor, you're out of control today. Um okay, 348 00:21:37,365 --> 00:21:40,565 Speaker 1: Gay take it away before I destroyed the podcast even 349 00:21:40,565 --> 00:21:44,085 Speaker 1: more so, we're talking about Moliair and if you don't 350 00:21:44,085 --> 00:21:46,285 Speaker 1: know who he is, get the fuck out of here. Okay, 351 00:21:46,965 --> 00:21:49,165 Speaker 1: go back home. You're at home hopefully or you're in 352 00:21:49,205 --> 00:21:52,165 Speaker 1: your car. You're doing something anyway. Molliair he was big dude, 353 00:21:52,205 --> 00:21:54,965 Speaker 1: big big deal, you know. Ah. He was one of 354 00:21:54,965 --> 00:21:57,765 Speaker 1: the most celebrated playwrights and actors in French history or 355 00:21:57,805 --> 00:22:01,685 Speaker 1: like the world history of writers. Some people even call 356 00:22:02,005 --> 00:22:06,405 Speaker 1: French the language of Moliair, but Mole wasn't his real name. 357 00:22:06,445 --> 00:22:08,365 Speaker 1: It was kind of more of his moniker like you know, 358 00:22:08,485 --> 00:22:10,885 Speaker 1: Share and Jewel, even though I guess that is their 359 00:22:10,885 --> 00:22:14,045 Speaker 1: first names. But his real name was Jean Baptiste Pucule. 360 00:22:14,925 --> 00:22:17,445 Speaker 1: And then growing up also he got bullied a lot 361 00:22:17,485 --> 00:22:19,565 Speaker 1: because he had a big nose and so like his 362 00:22:19,645 --> 00:22:25,525 Speaker 1: family called him Lune, which means the nose. I know, 363 00:22:26,485 --> 00:22:30,925 Speaker 1: so mean his parents are canceled. Okay. The thing is 364 00:22:30,965 --> 00:22:33,605 Speaker 1: then after you know, he was he was doing things 365 00:22:33,605 --> 00:22:35,445 Speaker 1: in business and ship, but then he was like, m 366 00:22:35,565 --> 00:22:39,045 Speaker 1: I want to actually do the theater. So he quit 367 00:22:39,085 --> 00:22:41,445 Speaker 1: what he was doing and he started his own theater company. 368 00:22:41,845 --> 00:22:47,085 Speaker 1: But then he went bankrupt, Oops and daisies, and he 369 00:22:47,165 --> 00:22:50,725 Speaker 1: was then sent to a debtor's prison for just like 370 00:22:50,765 --> 00:22:54,165 Speaker 1: a day. But there is where people think he might 371 00:22:54,205 --> 00:23:00,965 Speaker 1: have actually contracted tuberculosis, and that's important because it relates 372 00:23:01,005 --> 00:23:05,565 Speaker 1: to how he dies, because he dies of tuberculosis anyway, 373 00:23:07,045 --> 00:23:10,285 Speaker 1: then if you think about it, you know, in history, 374 00:23:10,805 --> 00:23:16,365 Speaker 1: tuberculosis usually not a good sign. Yeah, yeah, we all 375 00:23:16,405 --> 00:23:20,285 Speaker 1: know from our favorite film Mulin Rouge that tuberculosis is 376 00:23:20,325 --> 00:23:22,685 Speaker 1: no good because Satine gets it and she's you know, 377 00:23:22,765 --> 00:23:25,245 Speaker 1: we know what happens with tuberculosis. You're singing a song 378 00:23:25,725 --> 00:23:27,925 Speaker 1: and then you pass out and you fall from a swing, 379 00:23:28,325 --> 00:23:30,485 Speaker 1: and then someone catches you and then you cough blood 380 00:23:30,485 --> 00:23:34,885 Speaker 1: into a hand. Every single time, you're always saying that's 381 00:23:34,885 --> 00:23:37,845 Speaker 1: the thing. But tuberculosis, it's been around for a while, 382 00:23:38,085 --> 00:23:41,165 Speaker 1: you know. Um. There is a Chinese doctor in like 383 00:23:41,245 --> 00:23:47,085 Speaker 1: the two hundreds great century who described the disease as 384 00:23:47,125 --> 00:23:51,045 Speaker 1: the disease has many changing symptoms, varying from thirty six 385 00:23:51,125 --> 00:23:54,845 Speaker 1: to ninety nine different kinds. Wow. It generally gives rise 386 00:23:54,885 --> 00:24:00,165 Speaker 1: to high fever, sweating pains, making all positions difficult. I 387 00:24:00,165 --> 00:24:03,725 Speaker 1: guess he maybe means sex positions. Gradually, after months and 388 00:24:03,805 --> 00:24:06,605 Speaker 1: years of suffering, this lingering disease brings about death to 389 00:24:06,645 --> 00:24:09,725 Speaker 1: the sufferer. Afterwards, it is transferred to others until the 390 00:24:09,765 --> 00:24:13,525 Speaker 1: whole family is wiped out. So a little dramatic, but 391 00:24:13,805 --> 00:24:17,605 Speaker 1: real aggressive, real aggressive. But yeah, tuberculos was very fatal, 392 00:24:17,725 --> 00:24:19,885 Speaker 1: and I didn't realize that you could just have it 393 00:24:19,925 --> 00:24:21,925 Speaker 1: for years and years and years before you would die. 394 00:24:21,925 --> 00:24:24,365 Speaker 1: But eventually it would kill you. And usually tuberculos is 395 00:24:24,405 --> 00:24:27,325 Speaker 1: it It attacks the lungs. That's why you get the 396 00:24:27,365 --> 00:24:30,485 Speaker 1: blood coughing, but it can also affect other parts of 397 00:24:30,485 --> 00:24:33,645 Speaker 1: your body, like the kidneys. It likes the kidneys too. 398 00:24:33,925 --> 00:24:36,325 Speaker 1: And in seventeenth century Europe, which is when wally Air 399 00:24:36,445 --> 00:24:41,005 Speaker 1: was around, it had reached epidemic proportions. It was usually 400 00:24:41,045 --> 00:24:44,445 Speaker 1: called consumption. And in England they're thinking it killed one 401 00:24:44,485 --> 00:24:46,325 Speaker 1: in five people. Were in France, I think there was 402 00:24:46,365 --> 00:24:49,165 Speaker 1: like similar numbers one in five people. And it got 403 00:24:49,205 --> 00:24:52,125 Speaker 1: so bad. It got so bad that sometimes people referred 404 00:24:52,125 --> 00:24:55,485 Speaker 1: to it as the white plague, which there's a joke there, 405 00:24:55,565 --> 00:24:58,245 Speaker 1: but I didn't think about it because they only gave 406 00:24:58,285 --> 00:25:02,085 Speaker 1: itself to white people or what. Well, I don't know 407 00:25:02,085 --> 00:25:03,765 Speaker 1: why it was called. I guess you had the black 408 00:25:03,845 --> 00:25:06,485 Speaker 1: death and the white play. I don't know. Maybe they don't. Well, 409 00:25:06,525 --> 00:25:08,405 Speaker 1: back in the day, they only saw things in black 410 00:25:08,405 --> 00:25:12,845 Speaker 1: and white. Remember, we didn't see color until recently. So 411 00:25:12,845 --> 00:25:15,285 Speaker 1: so sorry. I forgot that, so sorry. You know, based 412 00:25:15,325 --> 00:25:17,365 Speaker 1: on the movies, there was only we only started having 413 00:25:17,405 --> 00:25:20,885 Speaker 1: color in like the late twenties. You know, Oh, it 414 00:25:21,005 --> 00:25:23,365 Speaker 1: is the twenties right now. I forgot the other twenties. 415 00:25:23,365 --> 00:25:28,485 Speaker 1: The nineteen twenties. Um was so great, Gubby, I'm good 416 00:25:28,485 --> 00:25:32,005 Speaker 1: at everything. Okay, but actually Gabby has the buttercut haircut 417 00:25:32,125 --> 00:25:35,085 Speaker 1: right now too, thank you. Yeah. I was trying to 418 00:25:35,085 --> 00:25:37,485 Speaker 1: get into the vibe of the riff we had earlier. 419 00:25:37,765 --> 00:25:41,925 Speaker 1: So anyway, Molaire was suffering with TV for a long 420 00:25:41,965 --> 00:25:44,725 Speaker 1: ass time and then in kind of in his later 421 00:25:44,885 --> 00:25:48,125 Speaker 1: years it was getting even worse. Um, and he also 422 00:25:48,205 --> 00:25:51,245 Speaker 1: had mad haters, you know, because just like no, think 423 00:25:51,285 --> 00:25:54,525 Speaker 1: of any theater kids. You know, they're all very dramatic, right, 424 00:25:54,565 --> 00:25:58,045 Speaker 1: so of course there's gonna be haters and all that. 425 00:25:58,045 --> 00:26:00,325 Speaker 1: That's the core you're supposed to be. You're supposed to 426 00:26:00,325 --> 00:26:04,325 Speaker 1: be dramatic. It's dramatic and bisexual. That's all it is, 427 00:26:05,525 --> 00:26:09,485 Speaker 1: thousand percent. I cannot delve deeply into this, but I 428 00:26:09,525 --> 00:26:11,485 Speaker 1: will say that there's one theater kid I knew who 429 00:26:11,525 --> 00:26:15,285 Speaker 1: literally like they're the cross that they had to bear 430 00:26:15,445 --> 00:26:18,365 Speaker 1: is like the fact that they got bullied for being 431 00:26:18,365 --> 00:26:20,885 Speaker 1: a theater kid and buy and I get it. Literally, 432 00:26:20,965 --> 00:26:23,245 Speaker 1: high school can be really freaking hard. But also, like 433 00:26:23,325 --> 00:26:27,605 Speaker 1: you're in your late twenties, let's go to therapy. I mean, 434 00:26:28,405 --> 00:26:30,445 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Sometimes people will say, like the theater, 435 00:26:30,525 --> 00:26:33,005 Speaker 1: maybe that's their therapy, but it's like, no, therapy is 436 00:26:33,005 --> 00:26:35,845 Speaker 1: a different Thank you should too all. Oh absolutely. I 437 00:26:35,885 --> 00:26:37,645 Speaker 1: mean I used to be like, my acting classes are 438 00:26:37,645 --> 00:26:39,245 Speaker 1: like therapy, and now that I go to therapy, I'm like, 439 00:26:39,405 --> 00:26:43,765 Speaker 1: I was fucking myself up. I was messing myself up. Yeah, 440 00:26:43,845 --> 00:26:46,325 Speaker 1: people say that about stand up. Like stand ups, my therapy, 441 00:26:46,365 --> 00:26:48,405 Speaker 1: I get to express myself. I'm like, I think it's 442 00:26:48,405 --> 00:26:51,645 Speaker 1: pretty much making you worse. But yeah, therapy is different. 443 00:26:52,485 --> 00:26:56,485 Speaker 1: My therapy. I have to say it's horse is better 444 00:26:56,565 --> 00:27:00,205 Speaker 1: than any therapist I've ever had. Please buy a horse tailor. 445 00:27:00,285 --> 00:27:03,685 Speaker 1: I'm begging you. I'm begging you. I need this cell 446 00:27:03,765 --> 00:27:06,565 Speaker 1: lign that little mini horse. Oh my god. Oh. I 447 00:27:06,605 --> 00:27:09,325 Speaker 1: send Taylor horse videos all the time now all the time, 448 00:27:09,525 --> 00:27:11,285 Speaker 1: but they come up on my like for you page, 449 00:27:11,285 --> 00:27:13,645 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't need to see whether, like 450 00:27:13,685 --> 00:27:15,525 Speaker 1: I should get a pink or blue saddle. I need 451 00:27:15,565 --> 00:27:17,725 Speaker 1: Taylor to see this. She needs to help me decide 452 00:27:19,005 --> 00:27:21,205 Speaker 1: a pink or blue. That's what I thought. You just 453 00:27:21,245 --> 00:27:23,605 Speaker 1: get a brown one, right, Yeah, it was I just 454 00:27:23,685 --> 00:27:26,525 Speaker 1: the first thing that came to my head. I'm so sorry. Sorry, 455 00:27:26,525 --> 00:27:30,605 Speaker 1: my jokes aren't based on facts anyway. So Moliar had 456 00:27:30,645 --> 00:27:32,765 Speaker 1: mad haters and particularly as he was kind of like 457 00:27:32,845 --> 00:27:36,885 Speaker 1: his acting was getting a little bit affected by his tuberculosis. 458 00:27:36,925 --> 00:27:38,845 Speaker 1: And there's this guy who is the son of a 459 00:27:38,965 --> 00:27:41,605 Speaker 1: rival actor, and he said some mad hater shit he 460 00:27:41,645 --> 00:27:44,965 Speaker 1: said about Moliar. He enters nose to the wind on 461 00:27:45,045 --> 00:27:49,765 Speaker 1: bow legs, one thrust forward. His wig trails behind him, 462 00:27:49,805 --> 00:27:54,085 Speaker 1: stuffed full of bay leaves like a ham what. He 463 00:27:54,245 --> 00:27:57,365 Speaker 1: dangles his hands rather carelessly by his sides. His head 464 00:27:57,445 --> 00:27:59,805 Speaker 1: sits on his back like a pack on a mule. 465 00:28:00,205 --> 00:28:02,605 Speaker 1: He rolls his eyes when he speaks his lines. The 466 00:28:02,645 --> 00:28:07,645 Speaker 1: words are punctuated by endless hit coughs, so hiccup and coughs. 467 00:28:07,765 --> 00:28:11,885 Speaker 1: This is a really intense image. Yeah, yeah, mad haters. 468 00:28:12,045 --> 00:28:13,805 Speaker 1: So I guess I just imagine him just like yeah, 469 00:28:13,845 --> 00:28:17,045 Speaker 1: being really sick on stage, like, oh, I'm doing his lines. 470 00:28:17,125 --> 00:28:21,725 Speaker 1: But so now Moliere is like fifty one, and he's 471 00:28:21,725 --> 00:28:23,685 Speaker 1: written and performed a bunch of plays. And but the 472 00:28:23,765 --> 00:28:26,485 Speaker 1: latest thing that he wrote is called the lume ladd 473 00:28:26,525 --> 00:28:33,245 Speaker 1: imaginaire emotion, the imaginary illness. It is well the imaginary invalid, 474 00:28:33,365 --> 00:28:35,085 Speaker 1: so the person who is ill or it's called like 475 00:28:35,125 --> 00:28:39,405 Speaker 1: the hypochondriac. Which while the irony of this is that 476 00:28:39,485 --> 00:28:42,085 Speaker 1: he is playing the lead character as a hypochondriac, but 477 00:28:42,125 --> 00:28:44,925 Speaker 1: he's actually just like really sick. Wow, we love that 478 00:28:44,965 --> 00:28:48,765 Speaker 1: theatrical irony Atlantis Morriset. That's what irony actually is. And 479 00:28:48,965 --> 00:28:51,805 Speaker 1: that's like when in every teen romantic comedy that's based 480 00:28:51,845 --> 00:28:54,845 Speaker 1: on Shakespeare, they happen to be reading the book that 481 00:28:55,205 --> 00:28:58,285 Speaker 1: the comedy is based on, like I love it, yeah, 482 00:28:58,525 --> 00:29:00,365 Speaker 1: or like in the movie or play when like they 483 00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:02,285 Speaker 1: say the name of the play or the movie and 484 00:29:02,325 --> 00:29:06,605 Speaker 1: you're like, yes, I'm with you, I see it. Anyway, 485 00:29:06,645 --> 00:29:09,885 Speaker 1: but he's really sick. And his wife Armand who like 486 00:29:09,925 --> 00:29:12,365 Speaker 1: there's some drama around them because like he was forty 487 00:29:12,365 --> 00:29:14,045 Speaker 1: when they got married and she was twenty two and 488 00:29:14,045 --> 00:29:15,725 Speaker 1: everyone was like ah and at the time he had 489 00:29:15,725 --> 00:29:18,445 Speaker 1: also like written a play about a man having a 490 00:29:18,525 --> 00:29:22,085 Speaker 1: young wife who then leaves him for somebody else. And anyway, 491 00:29:22,085 --> 00:29:23,685 Speaker 1: there's just like a lot of like his life kind 492 00:29:23,725 --> 00:29:27,285 Speaker 1: of like reflected his theatrical productions. Isn't that crazy? Wows 493 00:29:27,405 --> 00:29:30,245 Speaker 1: as if he based it off of things that he 494 00:29:30,365 --> 00:29:34,365 Speaker 1: experience maybe I don't know, maybe, but his wife Armand 495 00:29:34,485 --> 00:29:37,205 Speaker 1: was like the play was open, it was in February, 496 00:29:37,285 --> 00:29:42,085 Speaker 1: if was it sixteen seventy three, and Armand is like, babe, 497 00:29:42,205 --> 00:29:45,645 Speaker 1: you shouldn't perform. You're like so sick. And he was like, nah, babe, 498 00:29:45,685 --> 00:29:48,125 Speaker 1: I got us. So many people are relying on me 499 00:29:48,965 --> 00:29:51,365 Speaker 1: because you know, like I am an esteemed actor of Paris. 500 00:29:51,405 --> 00:29:53,845 Speaker 1: I gotta do it. And he said, reported lady that 501 00:29:53,845 --> 00:29:57,445 Speaker 1: there are fifty poor workers who have only their daily wage. 502 00:29:57,765 --> 00:29:59,765 Speaker 1: What will they do if I don't perform. I will 503 00:29:59,805 --> 00:30:02,365 Speaker 1: reproach myself for having failed to give them bread for 504 00:30:02,405 --> 00:30:05,725 Speaker 1: a single day when I am entirely capable. It's a 505 00:30:05,805 --> 00:30:08,245 Speaker 1: lot of pressure. I mean, it's low key true though, 506 00:30:08,285 --> 00:30:10,485 Speaker 1: Like if you think about it even now, like what 507 00:30:10,605 --> 00:30:12,925 Speaker 1: TV shows? If one TV show gets canceled, that's two 508 00:30:13,005 --> 00:30:16,885 Speaker 1: hundred jobs done gone. That's terrifying. Yeah. I was going 509 00:30:16,925 --> 00:30:18,685 Speaker 1: to say, this is the exact same thing I say 510 00:30:18,685 --> 00:30:24,845 Speaker 1: about goodaver gals. So no, I want you guys to 511 00:30:24,845 --> 00:30:29,125 Speaker 1: have your bread. Yeah, we're just swimming in bread over here. 512 00:30:29,285 --> 00:30:33,325 Speaker 1: I've developed a gluten intolerance anyway. So it's February seventeen, 513 00:30:33,445 --> 00:30:36,365 Speaker 1: sixteen seventy three, and it is the fourth performance of 514 00:30:36,365 --> 00:30:40,725 Speaker 1: his play the Hypochondriac and audience are kind of noticing 515 00:30:40,765 --> 00:30:44,125 Speaker 1: that Molire wasn't looking too hot. There's this big scene 516 00:30:44,365 --> 00:30:47,005 Speaker 1: where the main character pretends to be dead. He's on 517 00:30:47,045 --> 00:30:50,445 Speaker 1: his deathbed to trick his wife into admitting that she's 518 00:30:50,445 --> 00:30:53,405 Speaker 1: like really greedy and only likes him for, you know, 519 00:30:53,565 --> 00:30:56,045 Speaker 1: his money and shit, and so he's faking his death 520 00:30:56,365 --> 00:30:58,365 Speaker 1: and she comes in and she's like, oh hah, yeah, 521 00:30:58,445 --> 00:31:00,805 Speaker 1: my husband's dead. Yeah, isn't this great, calls him a 522 00:31:00,805 --> 00:31:02,685 Speaker 1: lot of bad names, and is like, hey, we should 523 00:31:02,725 --> 00:31:04,885 Speaker 1: pretend that we shouldn't tell people he's dead so I 524 00:31:04,885 --> 00:31:07,325 Speaker 1: can go steal this money before people realize it. But 525 00:31:07,445 --> 00:31:10,725 Speaker 1: then the main character wakes up and it was like, haha, bitch, 526 00:31:10,805 --> 00:31:13,365 Speaker 1: I see you being a bitch. But the thing is 527 00:31:13,445 --> 00:31:16,805 Speaker 1: Moliere couldn't actually get up from the deathbed that he 528 00:31:16,845 --> 00:31:19,085 Speaker 1: was acting because he was so sick. He just like 529 00:31:19,125 --> 00:31:21,725 Speaker 1: couldn't move, and so people were just like, m looks 530 00:31:21,725 --> 00:31:23,805 Speaker 1: like he actually is kind of dying. And then a 531 00:31:23,805 --> 00:31:28,085 Speaker 1: couple of scenes later, it was said that audiences notice 532 00:31:28,125 --> 00:31:31,205 Speaker 1: that Molier was having convulsions, and then other people said 533 00:31:31,245 --> 00:31:33,085 Speaker 1: that they started seeing blood coming from his mouth. And 534 00:31:33,085 --> 00:31:35,485 Speaker 1: this was like this was the finale, and you know, 535 00:31:35,525 --> 00:31:37,285 Speaker 1: it's never good to like look that bad in the 536 00:31:37,325 --> 00:31:42,125 Speaker 1: finale of a comedy, so they were just like like, okay, 537 00:31:42,205 --> 00:31:46,765 Speaker 1: just keep keep going, keep carrying on. The show must 538 00:31:46,805 --> 00:31:49,405 Speaker 1: go on. I don't think people wanted him to perform. 539 00:31:49,445 --> 00:31:51,885 Speaker 1: It was just Molier was like, I'm a big deal, 540 00:31:52,125 --> 00:31:53,925 Speaker 1: so I want to make sure people have their bread. 541 00:31:54,045 --> 00:31:56,365 Speaker 1: That is how theater kids are, and I will see 542 00:31:56,405 --> 00:31:59,165 Speaker 1: this because I wasn't a production once and I think 543 00:31:59,245 --> 00:32:01,845 Speaker 1: I twisted my ankle during the first like dance like 544 00:32:02,005 --> 00:32:04,125 Speaker 1: scene and I still kept going and I was in 545 00:32:04,325 --> 00:32:09,565 Speaker 1: severe pain. Yea, if Molier had to dance, he would 546 00:32:09,605 --> 00:32:13,245 Speaker 1: have died sooner. He would have definitely passed away quickly. 547 00:32:14,725 --> 00:32:17,765 Speaker 1: But they're thinking what happened during the finale is um 548 00:32:17,805 --> 00:32:20,605 Speaker 1: that he had a pulmonary hemorrhage, which happens when blood 549 00:32:20,685 --> 00:32:23,685 Speaker 1: leaks from the vessels in the wind pipe into the 550 00:32:23,725 --> 00:32:29,525 Speaker 1: main lung. Yeah. That stresses me out. Yeah. And then 551 00:32:29,525 --> 00:32:33,085 Speaker 1: in French theatrical lore, people say that Molier actually died 552 00:32:33,165 --> 00:32:35,005 Speaker 1: right then and there on the stage doing what he loved, 553 00:32:35,045 --> 00:32:38,605 Speaker 1: being the center of attention. But no, he actually after 554 00:32:38,685 --> 00:32:41,525 Speaker 1: that he collapsed and they rushed him back to his apartment, 555 00:32:42,085 --> 00:32:46,045 Speaker 1: and his wife and some other people in the theater 556 00:32:46,085 --> 00:32:48,205 Speaker 1: troop were trying to get some priests to get over 557 00:32:48,285 --> 00:32:50,125 Speaker 1: there to the apartment so that they could give him 558 00:32:50,165 --> 00:32:54,365 Speaker 1: his last rights, but two priests refused and then the 559 00:32:54,485 --> 00:32:56,765 Speaker 1: third didn't make it on there because and so he 560 00:32:56,845 --> 00:33:00,085 Speaker 1: died around MPM that night with no rights, no last rites. 561 00:33:00,365 --> 00:33:03,965 Speaker 1: Because at this point the Catholic Church was like, um, 562 00:33:04,165 --> 00:33:07,925 Speaker 1: the theater is a place for scandal, so unless, like 563 00:33:07,965 --> 00:33:11,725 Speaker 1: a theater person like renounces their profession before they die, 564 00:33:12,205 --> 00:33:16,605 Speaker 1: they will not give them last rites. So drama, I know. 565 00:33:17,325 --> 00:33:20,605 Speaker 1: So they were like, no last rites for you, moliar, 566 00:33:20,685 --> 00:33:23,045 Speaker 1: because he was like whether because you know, he was 567 00:33:23,085 --> 00:33:26,525 Speaker 1: hacking a blood or because of his you know, morality 568 00:33:26,605 --> 00:33:29,125 Speaker 1: or whatever, He's like, I'm not going to renounce my profession. Dogs, 569 00:33:29,165 --> 00:33:32,485 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm an actor, bitch. Okay. So he died 570 00:33:32,525 --> 00:33:34,525 Speaker 1: without the last rites. But then his wife was like 571 00:33:34,525 --> 00:33:37,165 Speaker 1: obviously armand was real upset. She was like, damn, dudes, 572 00:33:37,685 --> 00:33:39,245 Speaker 1: like I want him to have his last rite so 573 00:33:39,285 --> 00:33:42,005 Speaker 1: he can be buried in like in sacred grounds. This 574 00:33:42,165 --> 00:33:44,045 Speaker 1: is like fucked up. So she went to go see 575 00:33:44,085 --> 00:33:47,805 Speaker 1: Louie the fourteenth Louie Katours and was like damn, please, 576 00:33:47,885 --> 00:33:51,525 Speaker 1: Louie Katours like, let him be buried in sacred grounds shit, 577 00:33:51,765 --> 00:33:54,765 Speaker 1: and Louie Katres was like, okay, wee wee dock or 578 00:33:54,965 --> 00:33:57,445 Speaker 1: let's do it. But even with the king then being like, yeah, 579 00:33:57,485 --> 00:34:00,245 Speaker 1: he can be buried in like a sacred grounds, the 580 00:34:00,285 --> 00:34:02,445 Speaker 1: priests were still being butt heads about it, and we're 581 00:34:02,485 --> 00:34:05,085 Speaker 1: just like, okay, he can be buried in these cemeteries. 582 00:34:05,085 --> 00:34:07,285 Speaker 1: But under this parameter is that he has to be 583 00:34:07,325 --> 00:34:09,805 Speaker 1: in the same burial grounds as we're all the people 584 00:34:09,805 --> 00:34:12,445 Speaker 1: who commits suicide and the poor people are, so we'll 585 00:34:12,445 --> 00:34:16,165 Speaker 1: bury him there. So rude, Yeah, only two priests will 586 00:34:16,165 --> 00:34:19,845 Speaker 1: be present, okay, and it has to happen after sunset 587 00:34:19,885 --> 00:34:22,925 Speaker 1: the actual burial, which that's rude, but it's like we're 588 00:34:22,965 --> 00:34:24,765 Speaker 1: gonna we have to do it at night. And also 589 00:34:25,725 --> 00:34:28,765 Speaker 1: he cannot have a big congregation to come to the 590 00:34:28,845 --> 00:34:32,005 Speaker 1: funeral or whatever. But you know, what we all know 591 00:34:32,085 --> 00:34:35,045 Speaker 1: from being in the theater adjacent to the theater is 592 00:34:35,085 --> 00:34:37,805 Speaker 1: that you know, you cannot stop theater people from gathering 593 00:34:37,805 --> 00:34:39,725 Speaker 1: in tom foolery. So the night that he was buried, 594 00:34:39,725 --> 00:34:42,365 Speaker 1: a bunch of his pals and supporters followed the procession 595 00:34:42,445 --> 00:34:45,605 Speaker 1: by torch light, so they did get to celebrate Moliere, 596 00:34:45,965 --> 00:34:48,365 Speaker 1: and you know, now he's still very famous and one 597 00:34:48,365 --> 00:34:51,845 Speaker 1: of the most you know, studied and performed playwrights. You 598 00:34:51,885 --> 00:34:54,965 Speaker 1: could even say that because of his death, he became 599 00:34:55,005 --> 00:34:58,605 Speaker 1: hello controversial and therefore even more people know about him. Yeah, 600 00:34:58,685 --> 00:35:02,485 Speaker 1: so suck it, priests. Yeah, I mean, I definitely just 601 00:35:02,525 --> 00:35:05,685 Speaker 1: do think people in the entertainment and industry, it is 602 00:35:05,725 --> 00:35:09,005 Speaker 1: definitely very scandalous to be doing this would kind of work. So, 603 00:35:09,085 --> 00:35:11,885 Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of get their perspective. We're very scandalous. 604 00:35:12,085 --> 00:35:15,765 Speaker 1: We're very scandalous people. So anyway, but Moliere, the thing 605 00:35:15,845 --> 00:35:18,965 Speaker 1: is when he died, he was wearing green when he 606 00:35:19,805 --> 00:35:22,605 Speaker 1: was on stage and when he died, and so that's 607 00:35:22,645 --> 00:35:25,005 Speaker 1: so today in the theater, apparently it is still bad 608 00:35:25,085 --> 00:35:29,765 Speaker 1: luck to wear green. So don't wear green at the end. 609 00:35:30,085 --> 00:35:33,525 Speaker 1: Don't do it. Okay, we'll be back with more nonsense. 610 00:35:36,605 --> 00:35:39,885 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. All you could have her pals 611 00:35:39,925 --> 00:35:45,845 Speaker 1: and gals and guys and dolls dolls. Question, are you 612 00:35:45,885 --> 00:35:53,645 Speaker 1: all superstitious? I extremely yes, are you Gobby No? Well, 613 00:35:53,805 --> 00:35:58,645 Speaker 1: I do think vibes play a part in the world, 614 00:35:59,525 --> 00:36:01,605 Speaker 1: but I think that can also just then be reflect 615 00:36:01,685 --> 00:36:05,325 Speaker 1: like if you have negative energy, maybe your superstitions will 616 00:36:05,525 --> 00:36:08,605 Speaker 1: I'm true, because you know, you're just you have bad vibes. 617 00:36:08,645 --> 00:36:10,605 Speaker 1: But that's a different thing. I feel like, I don't know. 618 00:36:12,125 --> 00:36:16,765 Speaker 1: Perhaps the most superstitious people out there are theater people. 619 00:36:17,325 --> 00:36:20,125 Speaker 1: There are so many superstitions. I had never even heard 620 00:36:20,125 --> 00:36:22,765 Speaker 1: of some of them, but there are a lot out there. 621 00:36:22,805 --> 00:36:26,645 Speaker 1: Like Gabby, you just mentioned that green was a cursed 622 00:36:26,645 --> 00:36:30,005 Speaker 1: color because Moliere was wearing that when he died. It 623 00:36:30,085 --> 00:36:33,405 Speaker 1: is cursed. But there was also another color that was cursed, 624 00:36:33,445 --> 00:36:35,805 Speaker 1: and that was blue, But it was for another reason 625 00:36:36,125 --> 00:36:40,885 Speaker 1: because it was like really expensive, like blue clothing was expensive. 626 00:36:41,325 --> 00:36:43,765 Speaker 1: Like I really don't understand why. They just didn't want 627 00:36:43,805 --> 00:36:46,525 Speaker 1: to show that they had put too much money into 628 00:36:46,605 --> 00:36:49,885 Speaker 1: it and like hold it to a higher esteem or something. 629 00:36:50,005 --> 00:36:52,765 Speaker 1: Then I don't know, it was silly, but like blue, 630 00:36:52,845 --> 00:36:54,845 Speaker 1: you can't wear blue. You can't wear a green. You can't. Really, 631 00:36:55,085 --> 00:36:57,045 Speaker 1: It's just like by the end of it, it's gonna 632 00:36:57,085 --> 00:37:00,245 Speaker 1: just be the whole rainbow. I don't know, You're just 633 00:37:00,285 --> 00:37:03,125 Speaker 1: gonna have to wear skin tones, just like Kanye's line 634 00:37:03,125 --> 00:37:09,125 Speaker 1: of clothing or something spiation came from. It's so And 635 00:37:09,165 --> 00:37:12,965 Speaker 1: then there's also the famous line of break a leg, 636 00:37:13,325 --> 00:37:16,045 Speaker 1: like instead of good luck, which actually comes from there's 637 00:37:16,085 --> 00:37:20,125 Speaker 1: like the like like the part of the curtain is 638 00:37:20,205 --> 00:37:22,685 Speaker 1: actually called a leg, and so like if the performance 639 00:37:22,725 --> 00:37:24,805 Speaker 1: is amazing, then like the curtain's going up and down 640 00:37:24,885 --> 00:37:26,445 Speaker 1: or whatever, and then you break it, so they're not 641 00:37:26,445 --> 00:37:30,805 Speaker 1: even talking about your actual leg. Who knew what you know? 642 00:37:31,205 --> 00:37:33,725 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah? So hey, why aren't you supposed to 643 00:37:33,765 --> 00:37:35,365 Speaker 1: say good luck? Though? So you're not supposed to say 644 00:37:35,405 --> 00:37:37,485 Speaker 1: good luck because that's bad luck. Yeah, I guess, so 645 00:37:38,565 --> 00:37:41,445 Speaker 1: break a leg, damn, because you want to break the curtain. 646 00:37:42,245 --> 00:37:44,725 Speaker 1: I wanted people to care about my legs. It's not 647 00:37:44,765 --> 00:37:47,365 Speaker 1: they don't care about your legs, wow, Or they do 648 00:37:47,405 --> 00:37:48,965 Speaker 1: care about your legs because they're not talking about your 649 00:37:49,005 --> 00:37:52,365 Speaker 1: actual leg anyway. Um, So all of those are kind 650 00:37:52,365 --> 00:37:56,165 Speaker 1: of silly, but there is The most interesting and famous 651 00:37:56,285 --> 00:38:01,365 Speaker 1: is to never say Macbeth because accidents and even death 652 00:38:01,645 --> 00:38:05,445 Speaker 1: will occur if you Speaketh the name. What if you're 653 00:38:05,565 --> 00:38:08,845 Speaker 1: in Macbeth, Well, that's especially bad because you got to 654 00:38:08,885 --> 00:38:11,685 Speaker 1: say it right. So the first performance was in the 655 00:38:11,685 --> 00:38:15,605 Speaker 1: early seventeenth century. The actor playing Lady Macbeth died randomly, 656 00:38:15,885 --> 00:38:18,365 Speaker 1: so Shakespeare himself was like, I guess I'll have to 657 00:38:18,365 --> 00:38:20,805 Speaker 1: do it, because at this point they, I guess didn't 658 00:38:20,845 --> 00:38:24,285 Speaker 1: think about having an understudy. Then there was another actor 659 00:38:24,685 --> 00:38:27,045 Speaker 1: who was stabbed in one of the fight scenes because 660 00:38:27,045 --> 00:38:29,365 Speaker 1: they used a real dagger rather than a prop. So 661 00:38:29,445 --> 00:38:31,845 Speaker 1: they just did like real fighting and they acted out 662 00:38:31,885 --> 00:38:33,925 Speaker 1: the whole thing as if it were real. But it's 663 00:38:33,925 --> 00:38:36,845 Speaker 1: actually not just the actors that have been cursed. There 664 00:38:36,965 --> 00:38:39,005 Speaker 1: was also these riots from the audience over there was 665 00:38:39,005 --> 00:38:43,005 Speaker 1: like a rivalry between two actors, and so all these 666 00:38:43,005 --> 00:38:45,765 Speaker 1: people were like pissed at like who was casted or whatever, 667 00:38:45,805 --> 00:38:49,245 Speaker 1: and so they come in riot. Twenty two people died 668 00:38:49,645 --> 00:38:52,605 Speaker 1: and over one hundred people were injured. Theater kids, the 669 00:38:52,685 --> 00:38:57,725 Speaker 1: other kids, they were intense or are intense. They're still, yes, 670 00:38:58,525 --> 00:39:02,725 Speaker 1: they do. There's also a stage manager for the play 671 00:39:02,765 --> 00:39:06,285 Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty seven died in a rehearsal, and then 672 00:39:06,525 --> 00:39:10,085 Speaker 1: also a director and actor for Macbeth died in a 673 00:39:10,125 --> 00:39:14,605 Speaker 1: car accident. And so some people say, like, that's that's 674 00:39:14,605 --> 00:39:16,845 Speaker 1: a lot. That's a lot of accidents, that's a lot 675 00:39:16,885 --> 00:39:19,725 Speaker 1: of deaths, and so some say that it's actually cursed 676 00:39:19,765 --> 00:39:22,805 Speaker 1: because Shakespeare put in real spells into the play with 677 00:39:22,885 --> 00:39:27,245 Speaker 1: a dialogue with the Three Witches, and so they're like 678 00:39:27,805 --> 00:39:32,045 Speaker 1: they like nobody. The superstition is so deep, it's like Voldemart. 679 00:39:32,125 --> 00:39:36,645 Speaker 1: They won't even refer to scary. That's scary, Like that's 680 00:39:36,685 --> 00:39:41,325 Speaker 1: like the words they do. They refer to it as 681 00:39:41,365 --> 00:39:45,045 Speaker 1: the Bards play or the Scottish play. Can you imagine 682 00:39:45,085 --> 00:39:48,005 Speaker 1: your work being so powerful that that is literally how 683 00:39:48,045 --> 00:39:52,085 Speaker 1: people treat it. That's iconic. Yeah, it's very iconic, but 684 00:39:52,125 --> 00:39:54,605 Speaker 1: it's also like terrifying. Link what like, what if you 685 00:39:54,765 --> 00:40:00,125 Speaker 1: accidentally say Macbeth though you have to leave the theata, 686 00:40:00,325 --> 00:40:03,925 Speaker 1: you have to spin around three times, spit over your 687 00:40:04,005 --> 00:40:11,405 Speaker 1: left shoulder, and then curse like expletive expletive, knock three 688 00:40:11,445 --> 00:40:13,765 Speaker 1: times and asked to be let back in the theater 689 00:40:14,085 --> 00:40:16,245 Speaker 1: and then no one will die. I love that you 690 00:40:16,245 --> 00:40:19,245 Speaker 1: said explative, explative as if we don't curse multiple times 691 00:40:19,245 --> 00:40:22,205 Speaker 1: on this podcast. But I like, I like expletive sometimes 692 00:40:22,245 --> 00:40:24,085 Speaker 1: I like to use that as my curse. I'll be like, 693 00:40:24,165 --> 00:40:29,605 Speaker 1: oh yeah, why not. So yeah, there's like a lot. 694 00:40:29,605 --> 00:40:32,765 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many other um, so many other 695 00:40:32,805 --> 00:40:36,205 Speaker 1: things that that you can't do on in the theater. 696 00:40:36,885 --> 00:40:41,445 Speaker 1: You can't whistle as well, because they had sailors who 697 00:40:41,525 --> 00:40:44,765 Speaker 1: would like communicate whistling, and then if you whistle, then 698 00:40:44,805 --> 00:40:48,125 Speaker 1: you accidentally like signal them to like do something and 699 00:40:48,165 --> 00:40:51,205 Speaker 1: then mess it all up and then something would you know, 700 00:40:51,445 --> 00:40:54,805 Speaker 1: drop a joist. I don't know. The sailor like sailors 701 00:40:54,805 --> 00:40:57,685 Speaker 1: who would come to the shows. Yeah, like they worked, 702 00:40:57,805 --> 00:40:59,765 Speaker 1: like they'd be like, oh, I'm not I'm not at 703 00:40:59,845 --> 00:41:03,765 Speaker 1: sea right now because of the lightning. I'm just kidding. 704 00:41:03,765 --> 00:41:06,365 Speaker 1: I don't know. And the gators and negators, and so 705 00:41:06,565 --> 00:41:10,445 Speaker 1: they would work at the theater behind backstage, and they 706 00:41:10,485 --> 00:41:13,205 Speaker 1: would communicate by whistling to each other. And so if 707 00:41:13,245 --> 00:41:16,285 Speaker 1: you whistle, then that could be like a miss signal 708 00:41:16,605 --> 00:41:21,045 Speaker 1: and have another accident. That's fascinating. Did you know that 709 00:41:21,845 --> 00:41:26,045 Speaker 1: in the like I think nineteenth century actors were buried 710 00:41:26,085 --> 00:41:28,325 Speaker 1: with a steak in their heart because they thought that 711 00:41:28,405 --> 00:41:31,445 Speaker 1: like their performances were so good that maybe they would 712 00:41:31,485 --> 00:41:34,685 Speaker 1: come back to life or something like that, or they're 713 00:41:34,725 --> 00:41:39,165 Speaker 1: just playing possum exactly, like they were literally scared, so 714 00:41:39,245 --> 00:41:43,485 Speaker 1: they would bury them like very violently. That's I don't 715 00:41:43,525 --> 00:41:47,565 Speaker 1: think well we can that's that's for another day. But 716 00:41:47,565 --> 00:41:52,685 Speaker 1: but yeah, so all kinds of superstitions and the the alta. 717 00:41:52,885 --> 00:41:55,925 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a lot of stuff to back 718 00:41:56,045 --> 00:41:58,605 Speaker 1: up the Macbeth thing, Like I'm not gonna I mean, 719 00:41:58,645 --> 00:42:01,325 Speaker 1: I know I've said it, so maybe I have to 720 00:42:01,445 --> 00:42:06,285 Speaker 1: leave spin around, spit over my shoulder. Can you just 721 00:42:06,325 --> 00:42:08,925 Speaker 1: not say it? Because like Shakespeare's also like all the 722 00:42:08,925 --> 00:42:11,765 Speaker 1: world's a stage, so like if you say it, I 723 00:42:11,805 --> 00:42:15,445 Speaker 1: need to go spit. I sidentally have said it now, 724 00:42:15,485 --> 00:42:20,445 Speaker 1: so I think, and this is at all the world's 725 00:42:20,445 --> 00:42:26,165 Speaker 1: a stage, Nika, Okay, what's many players or whatever? Players 726 00:42:26,165 --> 00:42:30,685 Speaker 1: and haters? Yeah, well anyway, so this, you know, this 727 00:42:30,765 --> 00:42:33,405 Speaker 1: has just been a great episode. I apologize for all 728 00:42:33,445 --> 00:42:36,765 Speaker 1: of my very very terrible jokes that I have made 729 00:42:36,805 --> 00:42:40,565 Speaker 1: throughout Are you kidding me? They were incredible to thank 730 00:42:40,565 --> 00:42:43,485 Speaker 1: you so much. You have usurped me and I was 731 00:42:43,485 --> 00:42:47,405 Speaker 1: just looking. I'm now going I'm going to quit my 732 00:42:47,885 --> 00:42:52,205 Speaker 1: comedy now because I could never hold a torch to you, 733 00:42:52,405 --> 00:42:55,285 Speaker 1: but I would be falling Moliere by torchlight. You can 734 00:42:55,365 --> 00:42:58,045 Speaker 1: today that he died. You can borrow my jokes if 735 00:42:58,085 --> 00:43:00,365 Speaker 1: you want, And okay, I'm going to put him in there. 736 00:43:00,405 --> 00:43:03,165 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. And my skit, my stand up skit, 737 00:43:03,325 --> 00:43:06,765 Speaker 1: do it. I'll sign the contract sober great. Thank you 738 00:43:07,245 --> 00:43:10,445 Speaker 1: all right, Thank you everyone for listening until next week. 739 00:43:11,245 --> 00:43:28,285 Speaker 1: Bye Gal. Cadaver Gals is a production of School of 740 00:43:28,325 --> 00:43:31,885 Speaker 1: Humans and iHeartRadio. It is hosted, produced, mixed, researched, et 741 00:43:31,925 --> 00:43:35,045 Speaker 1: cetera by Gabby Watts Nico Dwarka in Taylor Church. You 742 00:43:35,085 --> 00:43:38,285 Speaker 1: can follow us on Instagram and Twitter at Cadaver Gals.