Speaker 1: From the King of Sports Books becomes the key sports
Speaker 1: podcast Unleashed presented by MGM. Here's your host, Olivia Harlan Decker.
Speaker 1: Welcome into Unleashed by bet MGM. I am very, very
Speaker 1: excited for today's episode. This is a real treat for me.
Speaker 1: A lot of you loyal listeners have heard me talk
Speaker 1: about my dad on here before. Some of our guests
Speaker 1: have even brought him up before I did. Jalen Rose
Speaker 1: called him the Goat, which I wholeheartedly agree with. He's
Speaker 1: played by play announcer Kevin Harland and he is my
Speaker 1: co host this week. Hi Dad Hilvy, how are you, sweetie?
Speaker 1: Good to see you. I'm good. Sound like did don't?
Speaker 1: I just like I did? Hi? Sweet Yeah? Uh you know.
Speaker 1: And you're in Phoenix. You just finished up the Phoenix
Speaker 1: Denver game. You're covering that series, so I want to
Speaker 1: to start there quickly before we get more into your story.
Speaker 1: But I mean, what a game two teams people are
Speaker 1: so excited about. You must be excited to be assigned
Speaker 1: this series, I am. I thought this was one of
Speaker 1: the more electric series that took us to the second round.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of both these coaches. I truly admire.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we we get coaches, you're just kind of you know,
Speaker 1: But these are two guys that I respect so much,
Speaker 1: not only as basketball coaches, but as men, and how
Speaker 1: they lead, how they have changed cultures, live at two
Speaker 1: places that needed some revampment. And they've taken superstar players,
Speaker 1: They've messed them with role players, they've built benches, but
Speaker 1: they built cultures, a winning culture, culture of you know,
Speaker 1: work and teamwork and team first attitude. So it's been terrific.
Speaker 1: Chris Paul was great in Game one, Mickael Bridges over
Speaker 1: twenty points. Devin Booker did what he needed to do,
Speaker 1: and probably at the core of this series is the
Speaker 1: center matchup with Yokich for Denver and Eighten with Phoenix,
Speaker 1: and all Eton has to do is basically stay step
Speaker 1: for step and not get in foul trouble guarding Yoki,
Speaker 1: which is a chore, and he did that last night
Speaker 1: and they won handling. So if that's a precursor, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be an interesting series, and I think Denver
Speaker 1: will certainly give him a shot. But Phoenix looks very
Speaker 1: good coming off their first series went off of the
Speaker 1: defending champion Lakers, and hey, even bigger news for you
Speaker 1: personally if this was your first game in an arena
Speaker 1: in what over a year. Yeah, we had done that
Speaker 1: the m c A tournament for CBS and Turner in Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: but we were in a bubble. We were in arenas
Speaker 1: and off the floor. We were not traveling around. We
Speaker 1: stayed in one city. Yeah, this is kind of nice
Speaker 1: to get back out there. And they were very limited
Speaker 1: in attendance, only a couple of thousand people at the
Speaker 1: n c A tournament games, parents, family, friends, some school administrators.
Speaker 1: This is unleashed, unleashed bedlam, seventeen thousand people in the
Speaker 1: building and full throat, and it was exciting and energizing
Speaker 1: and actually weird. I was working with with Reggie Miller,
Speaker 1: and I said, it's odd to be seeing it with
Speaker 1: the naked eye because we've been doing games with so
Speaker 1: long off of monitors, and your hesitant when you do
Speaker 1: it off a monitor, But when you're there, you could
Speaker 1: have your quick twitch call and those are always fun.
Speaker 1: And last night was a blast to be back in
Speaker 1: in a full, full theater. I thought both you and
Speaker 1: Reggie sounded so great last night. You know, you take
Speaker 1: this for granted. You've been doing this, however, many years,
Speaker 1: and to get back in there that that had to
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun and it was a lot
Speaker 1: of fun to watch. But man, those fans were electric
Speaker 1: and deservedly so. They're too looked great. I want to
Speaker 1: go over quickly your bio for those who don't know,
Speaker 1: if we've mentioned you do NBA on T and T,
Speaker 1: college basketball on CBS, NFL on CBS Monday Night Football,
Speaker 1: and the Super Bowl on Westwood One. If you're of
Speaker 1: a certain age. For some of our viewers, you may
Speaker 1: know him best as the voice of NBA two K,
Speaker 1: the video game. And you've made history as calling the
Speaker 1: most consecutive Super Bowls. The count is now up to eleven,
Speaker 1: passing Jack Buck a couple of years ago. That's impressive.
Speaker 1: And you also made history a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: as part of the first father daughter tandem to call
Speaker 1: an NFL game. You can talk more about that later.
Speaker 1: And something I'm very proud of you for two time
Speaker 1: National Sportscaster of the Year winner that's voted on by
Speaker 1: your peers, and I know that has meant so much
Speaker 1: to you. Before we get much deeper in your story,
Speaker 1: what's something you're you're more excited about that's ahead of you.
Speaker 1: You've accomplished so much, what's like a benchmark or an
Speaker 1: award or some opportunity that you still want to accomplish.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm pretty comfortable just trying to evolve
Speaker 1: in what I'm doing right now. It's hard to maintain
Speaker 1: in this business, to keep the jobs at a certain
Speaker 1: address and to stay at a high level. And that's
Speaker 1: enough of a challenge for me. I think sometimes, and
Speaker 1: you and I have talked our upon our upon hour
Speaker 1: about if you're looking too far ahead, you're not looking
Speaker 1: at what's right in front of you. So for me,
Speaker 1: the most important thing right now is Game two coming
Speaker 1: up tomorrow night Phoenix, between the Nuggets and the Suns.
Speaker 1: We all want to, you know, we all aspire to
Speaker 1: be the best we can be. And I think if
Speaker 1: we're looking at I want to I want to get
Speaker 1: there there, or I want to do this, or I
Speaker 1: want to have that, I think we're missing the message
Speaker 1: in the successful people in this world handle what's in
Speaker 1: front of them the best, and I strive to do that.
Speaker 1: So the challenge of just staying current and evolving and
Speaker 1: making sure I get better every broadcast. That's enough for me,
Speaker 1: right now, that's enough of a challenge. And then I've
Speaker 1: always felt as I've again told you and you've heard
Speaker 1: piece and nauseam. But if you're trying to please other people,
Speaker 1: if you're trying to look beyond and engage yourself on
Speaker 1: what others are doing, that's a fools Aaron. You're never
Speaker 1: gonna as a black hole. You're you're never going to emerge.
Speaker 1: So just be the best that you can be and
Speaker 1: let things happen the way they're naturally supposed to happen. Now,
Speaker 1: it's hard to bring up your trajectory and your start
Speaker 1: in the business without bringing up your dad. And it's
Speaker 1: a question I get all the time. What's it like
Speaker 1: having a dad in the industry. You get it all
Speaker 1: the time because especially the people of an older generation
Speaker 1: know so much what your dad did with the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers and have such reverence for the importance of
Speaker 1: his role in that franchise. His dad, Bob Harlan, is
Speaker 1: my grandfather, Papa Boy's president and CEO of the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers for almost twenty years. Dad, just as you
Speaker 1: grew up, especially when I think back the furthest as
Speaker 1: like a ball boy at Green Bay Packers training camp.
Speaker 1: And mean, how much influence did that early access half
Speaker 1: on your career and just kind of what you wrap
Speaker 1: what you absorbed from watching your dad work, Well, it
Speaker 1: shaped everything. It gave me a look behind the curtain.
Speaker 1: It showed me what professional sports was like. And I
Speaker 1: think if you're ever around it, you're molded by it
Speaker 1: and influenced by it. And I certainly was so that
Speaker 1: portion being in press boxes, being on NFL sidelines. My
Speaker 1: dad before that, as you know, your grandfather's with the
Speaker 1: Baseball Cardinals and St. Louis when they had Bob Gibson
Speaker 1: and Roger Marris and Orlando Cepeda and Joe Tory and
Speaker 1: Lou Brock and Kurt Flood and all those magnificent, magnificent
Speaker 1: Cardinal players in the sixties. And I used to go
Speaker 1: down to training camp. I used to be a bat
Speaker 1: boy at Bush Stadium, sitting back at home plate and
Speaker 1: chart games, sat in the back of Jack Buck and
Speaker 1: Harry Carey's booth at Camboex broadcasting at Bush Stadium. So
Speaker 1: I got to see things that other kids didn't. And
Speaker 1: when you talk about having an advantage, yep, I agree.
Speaker 1: I was exposed two things that most kids don't dream about,
Speaker 1: and was so fortunate. And that's truly one of the
Speaker 1: only reasons why I am where I am right now,
Speaker 1: is that I began at a young age in my mind,
Speaker 1: was directed in that portion of the business, in media
Speaker 1: and broadcasting, and it did everything. The other part of it, Olivia,
Speaker 1: is that Joe ju is watching my dad deal with people.
Speaker 1: He treated as the CEO of the Packers, as the
Speaker 1: president of the Green Bay Packers, he treated the lowest
Speaker 1: employee as well as he treated the starting quarterback or
Speaker 1: the vice president or whoever he was dealing with. He
Speaker 1: treated everybody the same. And when you watch someone act
Speaker 1: in everyday life like that, you can't help but be
Speaker 1: influenced by it. And I truly felt that that was
Speaker 1: a big component of his success, his rise. He always said,
Speaker 1: I'm not the smartest guy in the room, but dealing
Speaker 1: with people, listening to people, understanding them was a big
Speaker 1: part of his success. And so I've followed that, and
Speaker 1: I think you've taken after your grandfather too, because I
Speaker 1: worked with someone last night here in Phoenix who had
Speaker 1: worked with you in an ESPN game, and they said,
Speaker 1: your daughter is the only one who says thank you
Speaker 1: after every little thing that I would do. Oh my gosh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you've done bowl games out here in the Valley
Speaker 1: of the Sun, so they know you out here. If
Speaker 1: they know you out here from your sideline work with
Speaker 1: the ESPN, and you know, it makes your father proud
Speaker 1: to hear those kind of stories, and you and I
Speaker 1: feel very fortunate we're in this business, blessed beyond measure.
Speaker 1: And so when you hear those stories, you know, you
Speaker 1: feel like, let's treat others the way you want to
Speaker 1: be treated. And I saw my dad do that for
Speaker 1: a lifetime, absolutely, and then us as his grandchildren observing
Speaker 1: that too. And it's it's just very cool in any
Speaker 1: industry to watch someone who's at peak success and have
Speaker 1: peak humility. And I think he's always carried himself that way.
Speaker 1: And I was going to bring up that same story
Speaker 1: of it's such a small business, so yeah, if it's
Speaker 1: a cameraman, a graphics producer, audio tech. All the time
Speaker 1: people say I've worked with your dad and man to
Speaker 1: see the nicest no one else stops to like remember
Speaker 1: names and ask about our kids and how we're doing.
Speaker 1: And I just have definitely watched you and Papa Boy
Speaker 1: do that, and that's that's huge. And really, your legacy
Speaker 1: is unfinished. You know, no one knows what their legacy
Speaker 1: will be. I remember Oprah saying Maya Angelou told her that,
Speaker 1: And I think your legacy, just from what I've observed
Speaker 1: and as your only child in the industry and kind
Speaker 1: of gets to be in these circles, is I think
Speaker 1: your legacy will be kindness. I think that that is
Speaker 1: what ultimately you will be known for. Do you ever
Speaker 1: think of it like that? Well, I think everybody strives
Speaker 1: to be kind and oh, I don't know, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's because it's it's such a tough business.
Speaker 1: You're under so much stress, it's very time sensitive. Everything's live,
Speaker 1: and you've done so much work, you've traveled there, you're
Speaker 1: doing the game. So much can go wrong at any moment,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, not everyone does lead kindness. Well, it's hard
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of frustration, and you're working around
Speaker 1: people in a very public business, and mistakes are glaring
Speaker 1: and for all to see. No one sees sometimes a
Speaker 1: mistake made in an office cubicle and sees a mistake
Speaker 1: made you know, at home as you're cooking dinner, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, and and those are simple examples, but this
Speaker 1: is a pretty of course. You know we've always signed
Speaker 1: up for so you know there shouldn't be any challenge
Speaker 1: and understanding, well, why is this happening? You want to
Speaker 1: do and you want to treat people the way you
Speaker 1: want to be treated. I think we all know that saying,
Speaker 1: but to execute it when their stress is very difficult.
Speaker 1: And there are times that it is stressful and someone
Speaker 1: has made a mistake or someone is wanting to talk.
Speaker 1: When you've got, you know, a set amount of time
Speaker 1: to get something done, whether it's writing a lead for
Speaker 1: a story or trying to make sure you've got the
Speaker 1: information correct on a player, and it's time sensitive, you
Speaker 1: don't have the the time to spend with that person.
Speaker 1: So you you remember that and you store it away
Speaker 1: and hopefully the next time around you can say, hey,
Speaker 1: I am so you caught me at a time when
Speaker 1: I had to I had to get something done in
Speaker 1: two minutes. You came by to say hi, And I
Speaker 1: have thought about it and I slept on it. I
Speaker 1: feel bad about it. So I guess if there is
Speaker 1: ever that that little speed bump where you can't be
Speaker 1: the person that you want to be. You go back
Speaker 1: and rectify it so you can be that person that
Speaker 1: that you want to be. And I just I guess
Speaker 1: you feel like everybody around you wants to do the
Speaker 1: best job they can, and everybody is trying hard. They
Speaker 1: don't want to make a mistake. They don't want to,
Speaker 1: you know, be imposing that. You know, that's that's not
Speaker 1: their goal. They're just trying to help and trying to
Speaker 1: do the best that they can do. So you appreciate
Speaker 1: that fact of it. And I do love the business
Speaker 1: because there are characters, and there are it's made up
Speaker 1: of people. You can have all the bells and whistles
Speaker 1: you can, but at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 1: people punching buttons, making decisions, talking in your ear, at
Speaker 1: your side, on your you know, it's it's all about people.
Speaker 1: So you and I have talked about this many many times,
Speaker 1: and I think a little bit of kindness probably goes
Speaker 1: a long way. Now you kind of brought this up.
Speaker 1: The business is changing, and when I got in verse
Speaker 1: when you got in and it's just a different world.
Speaker 1: And you and I kind of disagree on this one topic.
Speaker 1: I love social media. I make it work for me.
Speaker 1: I think it's a great way to interact. I think
Speaker 1: it's a great way to share stuff. You recently got
Speaker 1: rid of your Twitter. I know you still have an Instagram,
Speaker 1: but I don't think you're veronic because I've tagged you
Speaker 1: in a couple of things. I don't think you see it.
Speaker 1: But my generation I don't know how to tag. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how to say yeah, thanks
Speaker 1: for that week for that tag. I don't know what that.
Speaker 1: But I just think my generation is using it for us,
Speaker 1: and there's I don't think either ways right or wrong.
Speaker 1: But why do you think your approach is the way
Speaker 1: it is? And what why do you kind of you're
Speaker 1: more tradition know in the sense? Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: I only got Twitter because you girls thought it would
Speaker 1: be good for me to get on, But I never
Speaker 1: felt I had anything really important to say. And my
Speaker 1: main goal with Twitter has always been as a news feed,
Speaker 1: because by having an account, it allows you to get
Speaker 1: on and then follow the people that are reporters like yourself,
Speaker 1: who have updates on stories, who may be breaking a story.
Speaker 1: So I use it strictly as a news feed. I
Speaker 1: Burned one Quist said something to me many years ago
Speaker 1: at a CBS NFL seminar, and he said, you know,
Speaker 1: I always thought I was pretty good. I always thought
Speaker 1: that I had kind of nailed a broadcast. I always
Speaker 1: kind of thought, you know, that I had gotten it.
Speaker 1: And then I got on Twitter and read what they
Speaker 1: were saying about me. And I've never felt so low
Speaker 1: and so degraded and so deflated then eating comments by
Speaker 1: people who have nothing but comments to shoot out there
Speaker 1: with no accountability. And this is one of the greatest
Speaker 1: to ever do it, and just one of the greatest men,
Speaker 1: one of the one of the greatest, and one of
Speaker 1: the kindest, warmest souls you'll ever come across. I can't
Speaker 1: tell you how much I respect him as a man
Speaker 1: and as a broadcaster, one of the great one of
Speaker 1: the legends in our business, Burne Lnquist. And when he
Speaker 1: said that to me, it's shut off. So I purposely
Speaker 1: never look what they say about me. I don't want
Speaker 1: to know what they say about me. I've told people
Speaker 1: at both CBS and Turner. If something is said that
Speaker 1: is wrong, patent le blatantly wrong, then I guess I'd
Speaker 1: like to be notified of it, like if they said
Speaker 1: I saw so and so uh punching out you know
Speaker 1: so and so right, or or I saw him at
Speaker 1: doing something where he said this. I mean, if it's
Speaker 1: blatantly wrong, then I would like to know about and
Speaker 1: then I'll go through them and say how can we
Speaker 1: handle this? Or should I handle it at all? But
Speaker 1: otherwise I don't know what they say. I don't want
Speaker 1: to know what they say. I'll come home and your
Speaker 1: mom and my wife will say, well, people on Twitter like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you do you do? I don't want to. I can't,
Speaker 1: and I guess I don't know if that's a frail
Speaker 1: portion of my psyche. I'm not afraid of criticism. I
Speaker 1: love criticism because it's the only way. There's always a
Speaker 1: truth in every critical remark. There's always a vein of
Speaker 1: some kind of truth. Even if it's outlandish. Five may
Speaker 1: have a smidge of truth it maybe a d percent.
Speaker 1: The criticism is warranted, and you know what, I love
Speaker 1: that stuff. Bring it on. It's the only way you're
Speaker 1: going to get better. But I don't look at it
Speaker 1: because I'm afraid of what it will do. It. I
Speaker 1: don't want it to change the lane that I'm going in,
Speaker 1: and I had people, I'll be notified if I'm messing up,
Speaker 1: and I'll know that, and I trust my gut. But
Speaker 1: I also trust if my wife, you know your mom,
Speaker 1: She'll say, you might want to look at this, or
Speaker 1: you might want to pair it back a little bit,
Speaker 1: or you might want to whatever. And I trust her,
Speaker 1: you know, intuitiveness and subjects like that. Now that being said,
Speaker 1: I get what you do. I get it, and you
Speaker 1: should do it because everybody your age is doing this,
Speaker 1: but not a lot of people my age are doing it.
Speaker 1: I don't know that al Michaels has a Twitter. I
Speaker 1: don't know that NaNs. I don't know that the late
Speaker 1: Keith Jackson at a Twitter. I don't think any of
Speaker 1: them do. I think they follow it with what they
Speaker 1: call that fake name or whatever. And but because they
Speaker 1: just want to get one of those do a fake Twitter.
Speaker 1: I do have one because I need you got to
Speaker 1: get on there to read the to read the news feed.
Speaker 1: I want to read what Dave mcmanam or Winner Store,
Speaker 1: any of these guys or Woes or any of these people,
Speaker 1: you know, Chefty, what they have to say. That the
Speaker 1: only way I can do it, So, yeah, I came out.
Speaker 1: You'll never guess what it is and I'll never tell,
Speaker 1: and I only use it. It's like jayhawk boy with
Speaker 1: an eye. Uh No, it's not. It is not. Actually
Speaker 1: you might. You might, if you dug enough, you might
Speaker 1: be able to figure and find it. But I never
Speaker 1: post on it. I never say anything on it, and
Speaker 1: I all use it so I can follow the reporters
Speaker 1: that I feel I've got to follow in the NFL
Speaker 1: and in the NBA. Well, I used this crazy world
Speaker 1: of Twitter to get some good content. When I asked
Speaker 1: everyone for questions for you, I said, you know, my
Speaker 1: dad's coming on if anyone wants me to ask him anything.
Speaker 1: And I got so many of aspiring broadcasters asking about
Speaker 1: your process. And I'm putting my own spin on this
Speaker 1: question because I know you have such a really, really
Speaker 1: steady voice process. On the day of a game. You're
Speaker 1: very your purest when it comes to voice performance. So
Speaker 1: what do you do on game day for your voice? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm big into delivery, and unfortunately you have heard that
Speaker 1: from me of the time that you were in high school.
Speaker 1: And I apologize in that because I've beaten you over
Speaker 1: the head with delivery. Deliver, It's all about deliver. What
Speaker 1: do I What do I say? A well delivered story
Speaker 1: with poor content is so much more effective than a
Speaker 1: great story poorly delivered, Yes, because all you're doing is
Speaker 1: a viewer or a listener is listening to uh, you know,
Speaker 1: and and the stuttering and the trying to find the
Speaker 1: right word. But if you zip your way through a
Speaker 1: story and tell it in a compelling way, even if
Speaker 1: it's about grass growing, it's still a story that you remember.
Speaker 1: And I tell you that because it was the first
Speaker 1: thing when I was about eight or nine years old
Speaker 1: that got me into sports, the first thing that I
Speaker 1: can remember, not just that my dad was in it.
Speaker 1: I loved being, you know, a part of my dad's
Speaker 1: spring training with the Cardinals and everything else. But I
Speaker 1: heard the great John Facenda of NFL Films narrate Super
Speaker 1: Bowl between the Packers and the Chiefs. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: the play on the field and on the screen. It
Speaker 1: was the voice. It was the delivery. And when I
Speaker 1: heard that, something went off in my head. And then
Speaker 1: I began to listen for voices, and then I listened
Speaker 1: to Ray Scott and I listened to the past summer,
Speaker 1: and I listened to all Don Crickey and all in
Speaker 1: Jim Simpson and Keith Jackson and all these great voices
Speaker 1: of my youth that I still hear in my head.
Speaker 1: I hear voices in my head and that's what I hear,
Speaker 1: that's what I listened. That's what got me into sports,
Speaker 1: and not into sports broadcasting, but into sports, and then
Speaker 1: that led to sports broadcasting. You say, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: these guys are broadcasters and they're talking about these games
Speaker 1: I'm watching. So yeah, I'm big on delivery, and think
Speaker 1: about it. Think about it during the games I'm doing,
Speaker 1: and we'll have little things in my mind that I
Speaker 1: have felt in the past, that I have said, well,
Speaker 1: that I will do to get me back on track.
Speaker 1: It's not different than a singer, an opera singer taking
Speaker 1: that little musical harmonica thing that they used to get
Speaker 1: a tone whatever that's called, and to get the right
Speaker 1: tone and how they warm up before a performance. And
Speaker 1: I do that occasionally during my games. I've said some
Speaker 1: things that I know exactly how I said it to
Speaker 1: get me back to kind of ground zero, to my foundation.
Speaker 1: You're talking about the words that you write down. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I won't get too deep in the weeds here, but
Speaker 1: I feel sometimes a game can get so frenetic that
Speaker 1: I got to reel myself back in. And so I
Speaker 1: have things that I have said that when I've listened
Speaker 1: back to my games, that I say, I like that
Speaker 1: little five second, I like my the tonality and how
Speaker 1: I sounded, And so I'll hit my mute button and
Speaker 1: I'll turn my head because if I say it, you know,
Speaker 1: my partners will look at me, going, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: And I'll say something completely having nothing to do with
Speaker 1: where I am. But I use that to get my
Speaker 1: voice back to where I wanted to get to. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm big on performance. I'm big on pacing. I'm big
Speaker 1: on all those kinds of things and have used that
Speaker 1: as kind of my guide in my broadcasting career. That's
Speaker 1: a great tip that broadcasters should write down, and one
Speaker 1: I share a lot as well. We kind of have
Speaker 1: a little joke about the start of our careers because
Speaker 1: I technically beat you to the NBA by one year.
Speaker 1: Yes you did. Now you your longevity and success. I'm
Speaker 1: sure our far past would all end up accomplishing, but
Speaker 1: the groundwork was there. We both got our main big
Speaker 1: gig in the n b A. You with the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Kings, Me with the Atlanta Hawks. You were just
Speaker 1: twenty two years old when you got that job at
Speaker 1: that time, did that feel like you had really made it?
Speaker 1: Like if that was as far as your career had gone,
Speaker 1: would that have felt like enough? Like that's that's what
Speaker 1: you wanted? That was such a great gig. Well, I
Speaker 1: dreamt big when I was young in college and always
Speaker 1: felt like because I started in high school at our
Speaker 1: radio station, at our high school in Green Bay, Wisconsin,
Speaker 1: so I knew I was on a faster path. It's
Speaker 1: not unlike a kid who learned to play golf when
Speaker 1: he's three and four years old, he's just probably gonna
Speaker 1: be better when he's fifteen or sixteen then the other
Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen year olds. And it just gave me
Speaker 1: kind of a head start. And you were kind of
Speaker 1: the same way. You began at such a young age,
Speaker 1: knew what you wanted to do. It benefited both of
Speaker 1: us and getting a start. The big difference was if
Speaker 1: I go back and listen to twenty two year old
Speaker 1: me and twenty one year old you, twenty one year
Speaker 1: old you sounds like they should have been on an
Speaker 1: NBA broadcast twenty two year old me, sounds like I
Speaker 1: should have been in Paduka, Kentucky doing Paduka High School
Speaker 1: of Basketball. That was the difference, not like the business
Speaker 1: was different. And I got the job at the intersection
Speaker 1: of so many things happening. The guy that was doing
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Kings left to go to the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: seventy sixers. The Kansas City Kings were not long for
Speaker 1: Kansas City because they eventually moved to Sacramento, and I
Speaker 1: worked for a station that had the rights. I was
Speaker 1: producing the Chiefs pregame show on the radio network. I
Speaker 1: was doing segments on the station and on the Chiefs
Speaker 1: Radio network as a college student, and so they saw me.
Speaker 1: I was young, I was cheap, and I was available,
Speaker 1: and that really led to that job. So it was
Speaker 1: by total, total luck and good fortune. You earned it
Speaker 1: because the Hawks, so you were doing on Fox Sports
Speaker 1: with the Southeastern Conference football game sideline reports, and these guys.
Speaker 1: I know for a fact that Fox Sports were like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, what's going on here? And the Hawks
Speaker 1: brought you on board. It was the smartest thing they've done.
Speaker 1: And I was with one of the owners. The other
Speaker 1: I said, we miss Olivia Harlan so much. That was
Speaker 1: before you became Olivia Decker. Yeah, the business now is
Speaker 1: probably far more competitive than when I was breaking in.
Speaker 1: When I got in, I oh my god, it's unbelieving.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go back to be two years old getting
Speaker 1: in the business for anything in the world. It'sating. No,
Speaker 1: I tell these kids, I say, as I told you,
Speaker 1: I say, you know, it may not happen is fast
Speaker 1: for you. But if you love the business, if you
Speaker 1: love what it takes to get better in the business,
Speaker 1: and you just drink in seven everything about broadcast, how
Speaker 1: to be better, watching others, you know, using them as
Speaker 1: a roadmap, all these things, and if you enjoy the journey,
Speaker 1: this will be a fulfilling business for you. But if
Speaker 1: you're just in it to make money and trying to
Speaker 1: get to the next market and hop scotch and leap
Speaker 1: frog and do all that stuff, you'll be left empty
Speaker 1: at the end of the day because you'll never it
Speaker 1: to where you want to go, to an endless string
Speaker 1: of disappointments. But if you love the business, and you
Speaker 1: and I love the business, it can be very fulfilling.
Speaker 1: And I just make sure that they've got the right
Speaker 1: compass heading when when they jump in, because it can
Speaker 1: be frustrating, and it can be degrading, and it can
Speaker 1: be very, very disappointing. Absolutely, it's it's as tough an
Speaker 1: industry as there is in terms of competition, paranoia, all
Speaker 1: of that. One thing I want to wrap up with
Speaker 1: is something that I feel like we don't talk a
Speaker 1: lot about in our family because we know you don't
Speaker 1: like to talk about it, and I don't know why
Speaker 1: you keep doing it. Then it's the goofy calls, the streaker,
Speaker 1: the cat um calling two games at once, the guy
Speaker 1: and the bra at the Super Bowl, And it's so
Speaker 1: what you're known for. And I hate saying that because
Speaker 1: you do so much good, serious work, such great journalism,
Speaker 1: great play by play, But you know, it's click bait.
Speaker 1: It's it's funny, it's memorable. And we're going to bring
Speaker 1: on Peter Andrew later in the show and we're going
Speaker 1: to play a little game because he's brought up a
Speaker 1: bunch of your great calls. I've just got to ask,
Speaker 1: because this is one of the top questions I kept
Speaker 1: getting on Twitter, is what's going through your mind when
Speaker 1: these calls are happening, because it sometimes I hear you
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, oh my god, what's he saying? Well,
Speaker 1: clearly not much is going on in my mind, right,
Speaker 1: I mean clearly we're we're we're cutting to the lowest
Speaker 1: common denominator. But now, the only technical way I can
Speaker 1: explain it, I mean, you never go into it planning. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, like if a squirrel runs out on the field,
Speaker 1: or if a you know, fat, you know, naked guy
Speaker 1: is out there doing somersaults, what am I gonna? You know, like,
Speaker 1: you never you never think of that. But here's what
Speaker 1: it is when I'm doing these games, and you know
Speaker 1: this because you go through the same process. I am
Speaker 1: so lost in the game, Like I am so into
Speaker 1: every detail of the game. And when you get lost
Speaker 1: in something and you're so immersed in it that you
Speaker 1: are just reacting to the next thing that happens, and
Speaker 1: you almost do it kind of in an out of body,
Speaker 1: subconscious way, like you're like you're not thinking about really
Speaker 1: what you're even saying. And the things that people remember
Speaker 1: I've done on radio on NFL radio broadcasts, and we're
Speaker 1: doing radio, you are looking for every detail on the field.
Speaker 1: You know, you're looking at the color of the sky.
Speaker 1: You're looking at the wind and what it's doing to
Speaker 1: a hotdog rapper that's blown across the field. And you're
Speaker 1: watching the quarterback, you know, white white, brauer the eye
Speaker 1: black that's beginning to run under his eye, Like you're
Speaker 1: trying to paint this unbelievable picture because you want to
Speaker 1: give the listener everything that the viewer is seeing. So
Speaker 1: when these things have happened, whether it's been a cat
Speaker 1: on the field or a couple of drug guys rolling
Speaker 1: across the field, I'm doing it in the context because,
Speaker 1: by the way, both drunk guys ran right through the
Speaker 1: formation as the ball is getting ready to be stamped
Speaker 1: and the play is going to be run, and so
Speaker 1: you just pick it up here now a second down
Speaker 1: and ten wait a minute, a guy who's run right
Speaker 1: through that, you know he's so it's all a part
Speaker 1: of what I'm seeing, and I guess I forget for
Speaker 1: a time what's going on now. The other night we
Speaker 1: were doing a game with Philadelphia in Washington and a
Speaker 1: guy I was on TV was on TNT and the
Speaker 1: guy ran on the floor. I swear it's always your
Speaker 1: games when this happens, though I think it happens, but
Speaker 1: being on television, you don't want to, you know, give
Speaker 1: him any kind of notoriety, so they turned the cameras away.
Speaker 1: On radio, you don't see the guy. You don't know
Speaker 1: his name. It's just a guy. So there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of anonymity there that that really didn't get us
Speaker 1: in trouble and tell us, you know, would because if
Speaker 1: he showed the face, the guy is getting exactly what
Speaker 1: he wants. He's getting that fifteen seconds of fame. So
Speaker 1: we don't show it. And we just said a security
Speaker 1: guy makes the tackle and they're gonna take him off,
Speaker 1: and that's what happened. So only is a byproduct of
Speaker 1: losing myself in the game and being so into it,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of where some of those weird calls
Speaker 1: come in. You know, when a guy has a big
Speaker 1: dunk or he it's a big shot and we go crazy.
Speaker 1: You're so into the game that you kind of sometimes
Speaker 1: lose your bearings and you've got to quickly, you know,
Speaker 1: reclaim them because you've got to realize, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: i'm a reporter here and I've better bring it back
Speaker 1: in a little bit, you do. But that kind of
Speaker 1: is it. It's very simple. It's like the stone cutter
Speaker 1: who's got a chisel and knock a stone that's in
Speaker 1: the middle of a road, right, and he's hitting he's
Speaker 1: hitting that stone once and ten times, and twenty times
Speaker 1: and thirty times and pounding away and trying to crack
Speaker 1: that rock into and on the four crack of that
Speaker 1: rocket finally splits, right, it finally splits in half. And
Speaker 1: a guy walks in and sees this final hammer, that
Speaker 1: rock that splits on the four taking it goes, wow,
Speaker 1: you must have really tookn a wall up on that
Speaker 1: h and he goes, no, no, no, yeah, it wasn't
Speaker 1: the four hundred. It was before it that led to
Speaker 1: the four hundred. And that's kind of what play by
Speaker 1: play is all about. Here's a two yard game, there's
Speaker 1: a four yard game. Here's a little lay up. You know,
Speaker 1: it's the little plays, but it's every play that lead
Speaker 1: up to the big play. And that's that's the best
Speaker 1: way I can explain it. Well, I've never heard you
Speaker 1: describe it like that, but I know you hate becoming
Speaker 1: the story and it's always after something like that happens,
Speaker 1: and it's like Kevin Harland's call of the cat on
Speaker 1: the field, whatever it is. And I know you get
Speaker 1: so shy. You never want to be the story. You
Speaker 1: never want attention. But I will tell you, as as
Speaker 1: your daughter and also someone in the business, I think
Speaker 1: when you show that kind of levity, it's really refreshing.
Speaker 1: And you're so funny. We know how funny you are
Speaker 1: at home, but you're so serious about your work, and
Speaker 1: I like when you do that because I think it
Speaker 1: shows that you take the work seriously, but you don't
Speaker 1: take yourself too seriously. So again, I just want to
Speaker 1: commend you on those moments because not only are they
Speaker 1: great viral social media moments that people are just like
Speaker 1: Kevin Harlan's a national treasure. I see that tweet more
Speaker 1: than anything. But I just I appreciate that you're able
Speaker 1: to switch into a kind of a fun place and
Speaker 1: you're you're very very good at that. Thank you, sweet.
Speaker 1: But I look forward. We're going to bring in Peter Andrew,
Speaker 1: who has told me he's a big fan of yours,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna play a little game and see if
Speaker 1: I know some who your most famous calls. So I
Speaker 1: could ask you a million more questions about your career,
Speaker 1: and I'll be I'll be disappointed if you do. If
Speaker 1: you do know him, I'm going to be very disappointed
Speaker 1: because you should be doing something much more constructive with
Speaker 1: your time and something I want that chill in your
Speaker 1: head in this business. Oh man, Well, thanks so much, Dad,
Speaker 1: And with that, let's go to Peter Andrew. Well, now
Speaker 1: is the segment in our show where we help you
Speaker 1: look a little smarter, have better conversations with your friends
Speaker 1: as you're watching all these exciting games, and help you
Speaker 1: maybe put some cash in your wallet. Peter Andrew from
Speaker 1: bed MGM joins us. Now, Peter, how are you, hey?
Speaker 1: How's it going with you? We are good, and you've
Speaker 1: got double Harlan duty today, so we can't wait to
Speaker 1: go over some of the prop bets, series bets, star
Speaker 1: player bets, everything. But this is such a fun time
Speaker 1: of year to be talking with you. And remember last
Speaker 1: week you were saying kind of a fun crazy bet
Speaker 1: that was interesting, and I want to start with this one,
Speaker 1: he said Trey Young for Finals m v P. He
Speaker 1: had thirty five. The other night, I believe he was
Speaker 1: plus sixty six hundred last week when we talked, that's
Speaker 1: now down to what are you seen in Trey Young? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean crazy to think it was a really solid
Speaker 1: game one. But they have a shot. I mean, if
Speaker 1: they play well and they play team basketball and Tray
Speaker 1: Young does Tray Young things, I'm and you're gonna see
Speaker 1: that number continue to go down. We're recording ahead of
Speaker 1: game two. But massive game. Let's see what happens. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been high on the Sixers, but if they play
Speaker 1: the way they've been playing against the Knicks and now Philly,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a legitimate shot and no one
Speaker 1: else is gonna win finals MVP if they end up
Speaker 1: going all the way from that team, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but about three quarters of their game and study, they
Speaker 1: let their foot off the gas there a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got some work to do for sure for game
Speaker 1: tea tonight. Yeah, Dad, have you seen the Hawks much
Speaker 1: this year? I am not. You know, I've enjoyed Tray
Speaker 1: over his career at Oklahoma, as short as it was
Speaker 1: and as a short time in the NBA. And I
Speaker 1: was with someone actually the other night who was in
Speaker 1: the room when the Atlanta Hawks we're deciding about done
Speaker 1: Itch or Trey, and it was interesting because they saw
Speaker 1: Curry in that kind of frame and what Trey presented.
Speaker 1: But they love the size of done and that trade
Speaker 1: is going to go down in history. It's think is
Speaker 1: one of the more analyzed trades in the history of
Speaker 1: pro basketball, kind of like the Philip Rivers Eli Manning
Speaker 1: deal between the Giants and the then San Diego Chargers.
Speaker 1: Who would be better? Who was destined for the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame? You know, one guy won a couple of
Speaker 1: Super Bowl m vps, the other guy put up historic numbers.
Speaker 1: It could be that way with Trey and with Luca
Speaker 1: as well. I think they're both getting marvelous careers, different frames,
Speaker 1: different styles, but both electrifying players and they're gonna be
Speaker 1: fun to watch for years. That's a good story. I
Speaker 1: like that. Sticking in the East a little bit. Peter
Speaker 1: James Harden's injury now I believe he has officially ruled
Speaker 1: out for the next game. How much will that affect
Speaker 1: Brooklyn and some of the lines you're seeing. Yeah, yesterday
Speaker 1: was a little crazy. When the news came out that
Speaker 1: Harden was out for for the game. They were down
Speaker 1: to minus two and they actually went to plus two
Speaker 1: the nets, which is crazy, and they obviously they blew
Speaker 1: out in Milwaukee, so I think there was a lot
Speaker 1: of money unevenly going back and forth, but it seems
Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter. This team is just so well oiled.
Speaker 1: I mean, Katie at any given moment can go for
Speaker 1: thirty forty. Kyrie didn't have a particuarly amazing game and
Speaker 1: they still just ran the show. And you have great shooters.
Speaker 1: Blake Griffin looks like Blake Griffin from five years ago.
Speaker 1: What happened? Someone made the joke that they cryogenically froze
Speaker 1: him in in Detroit for the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: and and now he's back and better than ever. So
Speaker 1: if you have those guys playing like that, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's so hard to bet against them. And I
Speaker 1: know I've been trying to go against the band leg
Speaker 1: and a little bit just for some value perspective, But
Speaker 1: but they are a good, good team. Dad, you see
Speaker 1: this a lot with players. You know, people have written
Speaker 1: off Blake Griffin. He's what thirty two years old. He's
Speaker 1: not too old by basketball standards. He definitely has some
Speaker 1: years ahead of him. But when you have this kind
Speaker 1: of revival of a better surrounding cast, a lot of
Speaker 1: hope in the city, a lot to play for in
Speaker 1: a chance to win this title. Finally, I mean, what
Speaker 1: what other like player does this remind you of this
Speaker 1: kind of trajectory in any sport when you see someone
Speaker 1: kind of come back to life. Well, you said it
Speaker 1: live because he has had kind of a resurgence here late,
Speaker 1: and he's not the guy. He doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: the guy, and he's playing with a better supporting cast.
Speaker 1: It really didn't have that with the Clippers, certainly hasn't
Speaker 1: had that with the Pistons, And I think that he senses,
Speaker 1: as you were alluding to, that that window is shutting.
Speaker 1: Is at a history of injuries. This has been a
Speaker 1: stroke of good fortune in his career that he's able
Speaker 1: to finish like that with these players. But when you
Speaker 1: don't have to be the guy, when you don't have
Speaker 1: to be the target on your back, everything comes easier.
Speaker 1: You move easier within the offense, it's easier to defend
Speaker 1: because your assignment is easier. The pressure is off. Plus,
Speaker 1: he's at a stage in his career where people know
Speaker 1: his name. He's an all star, he's a gifted player,
Speaker 1: but he clearly has things on his resume he needs
Speaker 1: to fill. So when you have a motivated player at
Speaker 1: this stage, not playing for money nor fame, but just
Speaker 1: playing as part of a better overall story, you get
Speaker 1: things like this. I'm trying to think if I can,
Speaker 1: you could probably mention some examples of guys that have
Speaker 1: been like this and have gone to other teams. We've
Speaker 1: seen it before. Andrea Gudala, I guess is maybe an
Speaker 1: example too, and he only played a year in Denver
Speaker 1: after a lot of years in Philadelphia, goes to Golden State.
Speaker 1: He eventually became the finals m v P. But he
Speaker 1: wasn't the guy in Denver. He was the guy. In Philly,
Speaker 1: he was the guy. But at Golden State he just
Speaker 1: had to fill a role, be a defensive player, be
Speaker 1: the consummate team guy, come off the bench, willingly accept
Speaker 1: that role. He did, and it led to an ease
Speaker 1: of play, the best certainly stint of his career, and
Speaker 1: a championship and the finals MVP. So you've got stories
Speaker 1: like this littered throughout sports. But there is a mentality
Speaker 1: that follows that, and we're seeing a play out right now.
Speaker 1: Blake Griffin and the nets. Absolutely. We're talking about Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant earlier. He leads the pack right now for fine
Speaker 1: as M v P favorites. I believe he's at plus
Speaker 1: one fifty. And Sam and I were watching that game
Speaker 1: the other night and he said Kevin Durant is his
Speaker 1: favorite player to watch play right now. He said he
Speaker 1: cannot believe what he's witnessing. Do you feel in that same,
Speaker 1: Dame Peter. Yeah, it was funny yesterday. I think one
Speaker 1: of the announcers asked, two years ago when he had
Speaker 1: that injury, I think it was two years ago, almost
Speaker 1: to the date, did he think he could come back
Speaker 1: the way he did. He kind of laughed at it
Speaker 1: and was like, well, of course I thought so, But
Speaker 1: to be fair, that wasn't a great crush. It was
Speaker 1: very awkward and awkward, and he said, are you serious?
Speaker 1: Is that a real question? Was kind of cringing and
Speaker 1: laughing at the same time. But Katie has always known it,
Speaker 1: but we really know it now. I mean, he has
Speaker 1: come back and he's playing that same type of basketball.
Speaker 1: I mean, mid range is on point, he's distributing to
Speaker 1: the basketball when he needs to. I mean, he's playing defense.
Speaker 1: He just looks like the guy that we expect him
Speaker 1: to be. Again, it's you know, we're throwing a little
Speaker 1: bit of money on some of these other players of
Speaker 1: Paul George A Trey Young to win finals MVP. But
Speaker 1: I mean every road leads to Kevin Durant, especially with
Speaker 1: Harden being a little bit banged up. Kevin Durant is
Speaker 1: going to be the guy they rely on down the stretch.
Speaker 1: It's hard to go against it. Absolutely. You said last
Speaker 1: week the West is wide open. What are you thinking
Speaker 1: now that we're getting into some of these games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yesterday was kind of a shock to me,
Speaker 1: but I had mentioned one of my bets to you
Speaker 1: was around the lines of Devin Booker to be the
Speaker 1: high score and around the Phoenix Suns are a great team. Denver,
Speaker 1: I think still a little bit iffy. I mean, we
Speaker 1: know how good Yokich is, but their backcourt is it's
Speaker 1: a cause for concern. I like Devin Booker to kind
Speaker 1: of take control of the series. I know he's shot
Speaker 1: a bit more I don't know if cautious the right word,
Speaker 1: but a bit more efficient yesterday. But I really like
Speaker 1: the Sun's I'm still really intrigued on what the Clippers
Speaker 1: could potentially do in the series against Utah that starts tonight.
Speaker 1: Those are probably my two teams that I see you
Speaker 1: going into the conference finals, but it really is wide open.
Speaker 1: All four teams have put super basketball throughout the playoffs,
Speaker 1: but certainly throughout the year and then on you know,
Speaker 1: on that series with the Clippers, there's a couple of
Speaker 1: unique bets we have, and I really like this bed
Speaker 1: of most points within the series Paul George plus eight fifty.
Speaker 1: I think it is. I mean, why not take a
Speaker 1: flyer on him and have a great series. There's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of pressure on Kauai. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of focus defensively on Kauai. PG can have
Speaker 1: a couple of really decent games and at that odds,
Speaker 1: in that price can find yourself making a couple of bucks. Well,
Speaker 1: let's ask the guy who was at the game last night. Dad,
Speaker 1: you're covering the Phoenix Denver series. What did you think
Speaker 1: from maybe shot selection, especially with Devin Booker. You know,
Speaker 1: I think Booker was just kind of feeling his way
Speaker 1: last night because other guys were hot. You know, I
Speaker 1: always try to get a handle on what the best players.
Speaker 1: The leaders on teams do early and Booker and Chris
Speaker 1: Paul are emat category. But Bridges was great. Eyton did
Speaker 1: not get in foul trouble. He was great. He's been terrific.
Speaker 1: In fact, I would dare say that the Suns will
Speaker 1: go as far as Eton goes if he stays out
Speaker 1: of foul trouble and can control Yokich with his defense
Speaker 1: as he's done in previous meetings and stay even just
Speaker 1: toe to toe, not even supersede what yok Is do.
Speaker 1: If he can just stay on pace with Yokich, I
Speaker 1: think there's no doubt that Phoenix is going to be
Speaker 1: favored to win this series. Their favored going in right now,
Speaker 1: and Peter probably is alluded to this the best, but
Speaker 1: last night confirmed a lot of things. Now they got
Speaker 1: another worldly performance from mckel Bridges, and then the kind
Speaker 1: of the last two games. Something has happened that I
Speaker 1: think has really kind of gone under the radar. In
Speaker 1: Game six that we did Lakers Phoenix in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: Chris Paul came in in the fourth quarter of that
Speaker 1: Game six, and the Lakers were creeping back and they
Speaker 1: got within single digits after being down by twenty plus
Speaker 1: points and Paul came in, scored seven quick points, dished
Speaker 1: a couple of passes, got the pace back up, took
Speaker 1: control on the floor, and they were often running and
Speaker 1: sealed the win in the series last night. Same thing
Speaker 1: comes into the fourth quarter because sometimes Olivis use this
Speaker 1: term took their foot off the gas. It's a perfect term,
Speaker 1: and they did. And it's very natural. It's human nature
Speaker 1: when you have the lead and you're in control, to exhale.
Speaker 1: And the Sons barely did that last night. But then
Speaker 1: Paul comes in and the fourth quarter. See, that's the
Speaker 1: difference between a championship team and a team that is
Speaker 1: just tread and water. And the Sons had the markings
Speaker 1: because Paul knows when to say when, he knows when
Speaker 1: to grab the game by a throat and squeeze. He
Speaker 1: did a Game six to close out the defending Jamps.
Speaker 1: He did it last night Game one when when the
Speaker 1: when the Nuggets were creeping back in the game, chiseling
Speaker 1: their way to get back in there, and he took
Speaker 1: that game over. So Booker who can score when they
Speaker 1: need him, and they felt they needed that push in
Speaker 1: Game six, they thought they needed kind of a turbo
Speaker 1: boost early in that game on the road. They knew
Speaker 1: the Lakers would be jazz. They were starting Anthony Davis
Speaker 1: and only lasted a couple of minutes. But Booker was
Speaker 1: aggressive last night, picking and poking and kind of working
Speaker 1: his way. And what did the team need? They didn't
Speaker 1: need him last night. They will, but last night was
Speaker 1: not one of those games. The others filled in perfectly.
Speaker 1: That's what you want to see from your team. And
Speaker 1: that is the beauty of playoffs. Different guy, different night,
Speaker 1: different lineups, and that is why we love watching You
Speaker 1: know that exactly. You've covered him absolutely well. That was
Speaker 1: a great playoff catch up and preview. But now we
Speaker 1: have a little game to play, and Peter, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun. We were My dad
Speaker 1: has no idea what's going on? Let me just say so.
Speaker 1: Peter explained the rules well, and this this I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the instruct the instructions. Don't say there's nothing about this.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about a game? I thought we're just
Speaker 1: gonna talk hoops here. No, no, Peter, you tell him, Peter,
Speaker 1: is this are you up to this? Peter? Was this
Speaker 1: your idea to do? To do this? Here? This is
Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of half and
Speaker 1: half of me and Olivia. Okay, so this started. I
Speaker 1: admittedly I am a big fan of yours, and you
Speaker 1: are known for a lot of fantastic quotes ran b A,
Speaker 1: but across a couple of different sports as well. So
Speaker 1: what Olivia thought would be good and myself, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: name a quote, I'm gonna skip out the player or
Speaker 1: whatever it's directly pertaining to. Olivia is going to take
Speaker 1: the first stab at and see if she gets it,
Speaker 1: and then if she doesn't, we're gonna tish it off
Speaker 1: to you and see if you know it. So I
Speaker 1: have five NBA focused questions and then I have two
Speaker 1: that are kind of a little bit more off topic
Speaker 1: from NBA. But we'll go through each of them, okay,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to give you a little preview. I
Speaker 1: do not know these as well as I should. And
Speaker 1: this goes back to when I'd be in school or
Speaker 1: something and my teachers would say, what games your dad
Speaker 1: have this weekend? Where's your dad? I would never know
Speaker 1: because my dad never brings work home. So we I
Speaker 1: don't know as much as I should, and I am
Speaker 1: already embarrassed I'm not going to know a lot of
Speaker 1: these calls, but they are legendary and people have brought
Speaker 1: them to my attention, so I'll try my hardest. And
Speaker 1: I did crowdsource a couple of them with some colleagues too,
Speaker 1: so they're not totally out of the blue, but I
Speaker 1: think these will be fun. Okay, so the first one,
Speaker 1: when you're aerodynamically designed with that hair, do you can
Speaker 1: do those things? Oh God, no idea. I'm waving the
Speaker 1: white flag early dad. That was the birdman in Miami
Speaker 1: against Milwaukee in a playoff game, and he had the
Speaker 1: spiked tear and the heavily tadded arms, the sleeves, he
Speaker 1: had it up through to the jaw line. He was
Speaker 1: painted all over and piercings. I mean like it was
Speaker 1: like everything, Like it was everything you can imagine. But
Speaker 1: the guy was an energizer. He was a rodman like player,
Speaker 1: and he was literally flying all over the place and
Speaker 1: waving his arms and trying to get the crowd. I
Speaker 1: mean like he was leaping and hanging and driving and
Speaker 1: scoring and rebounding and feeding and blocking. I mean like
Speaker 1: he's doing everything. And you know when a guy takes
Speaker 1: over a game like that I kind of lose my mind. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: it's a shock me still will continue to employ me
Speaker 1: because stuff like that just kind of comes out. But
Speaker 1: I love the game and I love players like that
Speaker 1: that are unique, and he was is unique, and on
Speaker 1: that particular Miami team, he was terrific and really filled
Speaker 1: a niche which you don't find a lot in the NBA.
Speaker 1: But that was the birdman for the Miami Heat. Am
Speaker 1: I right? Peter against Bill walk in a playoff game?
Speaker 1: You are correct? I think that was it. You are correct.
Speaker 1: It's calls like that that as fans entergy. So I
Speaker 1: have a ton of friends that if they know you're
Speaker 1: calling the game, they'll all tune in. So it's you're
Speaker 1: watching in shanity at play? Is what you're watching? Is it? Here?
Speaker 1: We have a guy cracking up on the air. Let's
Speaker 1: let's watch here because we all want to see the
Speaker 1: car wreck right there? It is right there there, it is.
Speaker 1: That's amazing, all right, Olivia number two here? So he
Speaker 1: goes players name and then we just saw a man
Speaker 1: fly ride him? Cowboy? What a play? I know, I've
Speaker 1: heard it. We just saw a man fly Is it Lebron? Nope?
Speaker 1: Give me a hint ten for Nuggets. We just oh
Speaker 1: man fly Denver. I don't know Big Carmelo, No, no, okay,
Speaker 1: what is it? Kevin Well? That was JR. Smith. I
Speaker 1: think it was like a mid season like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: let's get rid of the regular season, let's get to
Speaker 1: the playoffs type of game. We were in Denver, and
Speaker 1: he took off in and around the free throw line
Speaker 1: and kind of about a note place exploding. No, he's
Speaker 1: kind of sneaky athletic. We think of him with threes,
Speaker 1: and Jr. Is gifted, you know, certainly athletically. But he
Speaker 1: took it and it was a two handed dunc as
Speaker 1: Eric called Peter, and took it high and hard and
Speaker 1: came down and the bench, you know, you kind of
Speaker 1: get sometimes as a broadcast, you kind of watch the
Speaker 1: reaction of the bench because those guys see it seven
Speaker 1: they know the guy, know his game, nobody can do
Speaker 1: or can't do. And when the bench exploded, that's usually
Speaker 1: a pretty good sign that maybe you should explode to
Speaker 1: and and I think it was against the Spurs, maybe
Speaker 1: it was it against Santa Antonio Spurs, and he came
Speaker 1: up with just kind of an iconic mid season February
Speaker 1: in Denver regular season dunk. I must have been bored.
Speaker 1: I'm sure I was bored. Okay, I'm over two. We
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta get this better for you. What's your
Speaker 1: what's your third need? Redemption? Third one? This is a
Speaker 1: tough one, I think, but I'll give you hint after
Speaker 1: if you need it. Flight nine is cleared for landing,
Speaker 1: and the nine I'll give you the hint. The nine
Speaker 1: is referencing the player's number number. And another hint, i've
Speaker 1: already said his name in the last ten or fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes that you did. Just how good attention I'm paying
Speaker 1: Finals m v P is was the reference, Olivia. I
Speaker 1: would be disappointed as your father if you knew these.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you don't. This is the last thing
Speaker 1: you need to be worried about. This is stuff that
Speaker 1: pills your brain that should not be in your head.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you don't know. Was it recent? No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Tell me go ahead, Kevin, Well, Peter.
Speaker 1: Was it a playoff game? Am I right? Or was
Speaker 1: it just it? Was it just a game? No? I
Speaker 1: think it was. I think it was a playoff game
Speaker 1: against Chicago. Well, they could have been in Philly because
Speaker 1: it probably got zipped up by the stands. That was
Speaker 1: Andrea Goodall, and and he had come in with another,
Speaker 1: you know, skywalking type of dunk that he would do
Speaker 1: from time to time. He did more of it as
Speaker 1: a young player with the Sixers that he's done it
Speaker 1: certainly as he's aged. But it came in with a
Speaker 1: pretty good dunk and White nine you're clear dre landing
Speaker 1: or whatever. I would ever. Oh, I think my living
Speaker 1: room shook when that happened, right along the base. Well,
Speaker 1: I think we better wrap up with Peter, just since
Speaker 1: I know you do have a list in front of you.
Speaker 1: What would you say is your favorite of the calls? Okay,
Speaker 1: so the j R. Smith one is I think is
Speaker 1: iconic and me and my brother always talk about it.
Speaker 1: I'll give one last one, which is kind of one
Speaker 1: of the funny ones. And I need you to guess
Speaker 1: a part of this. It's so ridiculous. She's embarrassed even
Speaker 1: repeating this is at a I think this is at
Speaker 1: an old Miss. I want to say, an old Miss game,
Speaker 1: college game. Wow, that's way back. So he goes, Kevin
Speaker 1: goes here, here goes baby name she's on top of
Speaker 1: those wonderful Oh look at her move, and she accelerates
Speaker 1: and takes it for the win. It's a baby going
Speaker 1: across the half court line, one of those little halftime shows,
Speaker 1: and the baby crosses the line to the other parents
Speaker 1: and wins. What is the baby's name? And again it's
Speaker 1: it's so but it is iconic that everybody knows it. Dad,
Speaker 1: do you remember the baby's name? I do because it
Speaker 1: was during a commercial. It was not live on the air.
Speaker 1: It was during a commercial, well was it? And we
Speaker 1: were just again it was probably a blowout, and we're
Speaker 1: trying to amuse ourselves. And I think I was working
Speaker 1: with Bill Raftery and they had this baby crawling contest
Speaker 1: at halftime and we were sitting there watching it and
Speaker 1: the crowd was into it, and we started calling the
Speaker 1: play by play of it. I will tell you, I'll
Speaker 1: give you a hand, Olivia, the baby's name was one
Speaker 1: of your sister's names. Have a gil Yeah, and why
Speaker 1: I do not know. Well, that's a good place to have.
Speaker 1: That's a funny one and one i've never heard before.
Speaker 1: I've never heard that story. So that's that's really good. Peter,
Speaker 1: great research, yeah, we might have to have because I
Speaker 1: had a couple of funny ones. I would love to
Speaker 1: do a part two. I would love to have my
Speaker 1: dad back on here because having the two of you, Peter,
Speaker 1: You're a rational I can tell right now. Peter's a
Speaker 1: national And I'm gonna have a leary next time I
Speaker 1: come out with you, if there is next time. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much, Thank you both for joining me today.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that segment a lot of fun. Thanks guys, Well,
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