1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Thursday edition of The Clay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Sexton Show gets going right now. A lot of things 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: on the menu today for our news items and analysis. 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: Much to discuss. For one thing, New York Times and 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: others still trying to find a way to justify that 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: they lied about the laptop, and they're still taking cheap shots. 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: They will not report honestly that it is absolutely real. 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: They keep saying some of it's real, but some of 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: it we don't know. You can't disprove it's all hysteria. 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: Speaking of hysteria, Brian Steltzer domemberhead the Clay He used 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: to have a show, Let's see it ed. Brian Stelter 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: is worried about ways that Trump, were he to win 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: the election, would punish the news media. He might say 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: very big things about that, very big things, probably the biggest. 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: You we mentioned yesterday that there's all this talk about 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: people crying. Do you remember when Brian Stelter shared that 17 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: he just like curled up in the fetal. 18 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: Position during COVID? Do I remember, Clay, That was one 19 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: of the pinnacle moments of lib wimpiness during COVID. I 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 1: still celebrate Stelter's whole catalog. I mean we were. 21 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: Talking about this because sot of my yoor said, Oh, 22 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: my goodness, I sometimes go in my office and just 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: shut the door and cry. 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: I I understand people are saying, oh, people need to 25 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: get more in touch with their emotions. 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: If you're at work and you cry, there's a and 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: you didn't just find out that some close family member 28 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: died or a coworker. I'm not giving exceptions here, but 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: because something happened to you at work that made you 30 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: so emotionally unstable that you had to go to your 31 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: office and cry, like well, you don't talk. 32 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: About people, but this is the thing. 33 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: We employed people at OutKick that were going into their 34 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: offices and regularly crying. I wouldn't want to employ them 35 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: anymore because I would think to myself, that doesn't sound 36 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 2: like someone who's emotionally stable enough to work here. You 37 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: certainly don't brag about it as if it's some sign 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: of strength. 39 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: Obviously, loss of a family member or friend or actual 40 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: you were allowed to actual grief is perfectly acceptable for 41 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: anyone to cry. There are some other extenuating circumstances, but 42 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: the bragging about the crying during COVID as a means 43 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: of associating yourself or connecting to other people is a 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: very weird thing. Let's not get too bogged down into that. 45 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: We also still fired up by that Leah Thomas banned 46 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: from swimming in the Olympics. I will admit this. I 47 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: did not even know that this was trying, that he 48 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: was trying, he was trying to make this happen. I 49 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: did not know that. So it was it was like, 50 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Clay and I will talk about this. 51 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: It's interesting the implications of it, the way the international 52 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: body has come down and decide what the rules are. 53 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: There's at least some recognition that if you go through 54 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: mail puberty you do have a huge advantage. And this 55 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: is insane. Scotis came down with a nine to oz 56 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: decision on MiFi prestone, which is the abortion drug. Disappointing there, 57 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: but I understand the legal reasoning behind it. We will 58 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: dive into that. We also have se Yah, as I said, 59 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: a big menu. I just want to tell you where 60 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: we're going with all this stuff. Oh, Nathan Wade, the 61 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: guy involved with Fannie Willis. Fannie Willis is now facing 62 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: the possibility of being removed from that case, which means 63 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: the anti Trump Rico Atlanta case is going to be 64 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: delayed past the election. So that's a huge political loss 65 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: for them on that one, but also it could go 66 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: beyond it. We will discuss. I though wanted it was 67 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: start with. I thought this was interesting, Clay. You helped 68 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: bring this one to my attention. As they're trying to 69 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: make sense of what has happened here with the UH 70 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: with the Hunter Biden reality right as they're trying to 71 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 1: explain why is it that now the president's son has 72 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: been convicted? What should the what should the status be 73 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: of the messaging? Right here is I tell you this. 74 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: I do watch mornings. Did you ever watch him? 75 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: Now? 76 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: Sometimes in the middle time, I I this is your Ballywick. 77 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to let you be the behind enemy line. 78 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm the unofficial MSNBC watcher, so that I know in 79 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: the mornings what the Democrat talking points are. 80 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: Chaos in the Travis household in the mornings with the 81 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: boys running in every direction, Like, I don't have a 82 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: lot of time to do morning television. So it's not 83 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: till they're off to school, they're off to summer camps 84 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: or whatever. Else that I actually really can kind of 85 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: sit down and like take a breath. So morning Joe 86 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: is coming gone before I'm even aware of hardly what's 87 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: going on on television. 88 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: So this is cut. This has cut sixteen and it's 89 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: Joe scar Borough went in doubt. When somebody gets convicted, 90 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,679 Speaker 1: what is the fallback? Blame the lawyers play sixteen. 91 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 4: They had a plea deal that they could have taken, 92 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 4: but because they wouldn't grant him total immunity even over 93 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: the tax charges, any other charges, they rejected it. So 94 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: instead of taking an imperfect plea deal, Yeah, they risked 95 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 4: it all, which again in retrospect, seems like really bad lawyering. 96 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: No, no, it wasn't bad lawyering. They were so close. 97 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: If it wasn't for people paying attention to the Hunter 98 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: Biden case, because despite the Democrat media's best efforts to 99 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: suppress all the information, not just the laptop, a lot 100 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: of things though, Arisma connections and everything else, the tax issues, 101 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: if there wasn't pressure, public pressure to see what was 102 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: going on with Hunter Biden, Clay and you were very 103 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: proud of judging Norika for adhering to the actual law, 104 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: which is which is true, They were truly minutes away 105 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 1: from Hunter Biden walking Scott free on everything. Everything goes away, 106 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: no punishment. If those lawyers had managed to pull that off, 107 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: it would be the most astonishing legal coup any of 108 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: us would have ever seen. The judge just said, guys, 109 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: at some point, this is just the sweetheart deal? Is 110 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: too sweetheart? 111 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think the IRS agents came forward and this 112 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: is where the House deserves credit here. They put that 113 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: testimony on. Everyone became aware of what a rig job 114 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: this sweetheart deal was, and Judge Norieika held it up 115 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: and actually shined a bright light on it and pointed 116 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: out how ridiculous and unacceptable it was. This is bad 117 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: and it's not going to shock you. This is bad 118 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: analysis from Joe Scarborough. And I understand anytime you have 119 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 2: a client that gets convicted of felonies, there is Monday 120 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: morning quarterbacking. But buck pretend that I'm your lawyer and 121 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is trying to put you in prison, which, 122 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: by the way, given where we are right now, maybe 123 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: not a crazy idea. Joe Biden's trying to put anybody 124 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: in prison who is connected to Trump or Trump ally 125 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: what they rightly insisted for as a part of their 126 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: plea agreement was that it was the totality of the 127 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: plea agreement. Now understand they got a sweetheart deal. I'm 128 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: not defending the deal, but the job of a lawyer 129 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: is to get the best deal that you can for 130 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: your client. What blew up this sweetheart deal was the prosecution. 131 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: That is, the Weiss was not willing to actually admit 132 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: in open court that he would refuse to charge Hunter 133 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: Biden with any other crimes relating to these incidents in 134 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: the future. But that's integral to any agreement that you 135 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: enter into. I'm not going to enter into a plea 136 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: agreement for my client. Let's pretend I'm advising you and 137 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, you're gonna get a slap on the wrist. 138 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: There's no serious things here, and you had done a 139 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: ton of stuff. I wouldn't advise you to sign that 140 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: plea agreement if it allowed the government to later charge 141 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: you other crimes related to this. 142 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: That's a very essen. The only reason you enter. 143 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: Into a plea agreement is because you are forestalling any 144 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: additional charges and taking this off the table for that situation. 145 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 2: So Scarborough is doing a poor job. Look I think 146 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: Abbe Lowell's argument of well, he wasn't actually on drugs 147 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: when he signed these gun forms is a bad argument, 148 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: But he doesn't have a lot of arguments. When Hunter 149 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 2: Biden writes that he's a drug addict in his book, 150 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 2: and you have all these text messages, the evidence is bad. 151 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: This is not an easy case to do. It was 152 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: essentially a confession. I mean, how do you get around 153 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, we know this. The ways to get around 154 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: a confession. You try to get excluded from evidence. You 155 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: try to say that there was coercion. But otherwise, if 156 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: you're on record saying you did it, it's kind of 157 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: hard to convince a jury that you didn't do it. 158 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: So I think that there really were no good options. 159 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: And I think that the defense that the Hunter lawyers 160 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: in court made, never mind the plea deal arrangement, was 161 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: to just put up odd defense in the hopes that 162 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: Clay would you brought up as a possibility would happen, 163 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: which is somebody in the jury just feels bad for him, 164 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: or they hate Trump so much, and they effectively nullify 165 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: that did not happen. As we know, they prob They 166 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: found him guilty pretty quickly, pretty easily. But the other 167 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: part of this I thought was interesting, and we had 168 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: brought this up before, Clay, how do they message this again? 169 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: Going to morning, Going to Morning, Joe, this has cut six. 170 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: He's saying that the Democrats should go at Trump harder 171 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: than ever on the convicted felon line. Let's listen to 172 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: this for a second play. 173 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 4: If I'm Joe Biden, I'm on the debate stage with 174 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 4: Donald Trump, and he starts talking about Hunter Biden as 175 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 4: some sort of retort against his own thirty four felonies, I'd. 176 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 5: Stop a turn. 177 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: I look around the stage. Excuse me, hold on, I 178 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: don't see Hunter Biden up here. Hold on, Donald, let 179 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: me check. Maybe I don't see Eric over there. Wait wait, 180 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: Eric's not here. So I'm not running against Eric. 181 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 5: I'm running against you, Donald, and you're not running against 182 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 5: Hunter Biden or. 183 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: The ghost of Hunter Biden, who's not here. 184 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 5: You're running against me. Biden's people should double down right 185 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 5: now and go harder at Trump than ever before, on 186 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 5: the fact he's a convicted felon. 187 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: I think that this is excellent advice for Trump to win. 188 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: I think that going after Trump harder and harder on 189 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: this convicted felon thing is a total miss for the Democrats. 190 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: I think that they we had been saying for months, Clay, 191 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: could they really have misplayed or misunderstood the politics of 192 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: this that thoroughly? And I think the answer is yes. 193 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: I think quite clearly they have messed up. They have decided, 194 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: or they had decided, something would happen, and the opposite 195 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: has happened, which is if they bring absurd charges against 196 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and can just call him a convicted felon. 197 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: It's a little bit like with the insurrectionist or they 198 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: kept calling him an insurrectionist. I think that has faded 199 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: as well as people look up the definition of what 200 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: an insurrection is. 201 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: At some point, people make up their minds what they 202 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 2: think about somebody, for better or worse. Every single person 203 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: in America has made up their minds what they think 204 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 2: about Donald Trump. And so this idea that suddenly when 205 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: you've called the guy hitler, and when you have suggested 206 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: that he's going to overthrow democracy, there isn't anything else 207 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: you can throw at him. People know what they think, 208 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: and the only way you change people's opinions is if 209 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 2: what they think is different. For better or worse, people 210 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: were not real. Let me make an analogy here. Historically, 211 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 2: Buck and I haven't heard a lot of people say this. 212 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: When Bill Clinton had an affair with an intern, Monica Lewinsky, 213 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: most people most people said, yeah, I can see that. 214 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 2: That's how most of America responded. Now, you might think 215 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: it's crazy, you might think it's wild, you might think 216 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: it's unacceptable. People weren't surprised. People said, yeah, I kind 217 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 2: of can see that. The allegations against Trump. He's on 218 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: his third wife, He's been around a lot of beautiful 219 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 2: women over the years. The fact that he would sleep 220 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: with someone allegedly while he's married to someone else, people 221 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: are like, yeah, I can kind of see that. Once 222 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: you are defined, then it doesn't actually deliver political benefit 223 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: to further define you. Now, if Barack Obama or George W. 224 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: Bush had been accused of having an affair with an intern, 225 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: I think people would have said, oh, man, this is bad, 226 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: because they think of those guys as loyal, loving fathers, 227 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: and that is a big part of their overall persona. 228 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: As a politician. I would put Trump in the Bill 229 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: Clinton category. He's the guy that if your husband goes 230 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: out to dinner with him, you're like Yeah, I don't 231 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: really want him going out to dinner with him. 232 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: For a lot of married women out there, you're used 233 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: to what he is. 234 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? And so I think the allegations 235 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: that they throw at Trump, it is just it doesn't 236 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: work on him because people already have made up their 237 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: minds about Trump and this is a failure. And I 238 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: think this is what's blowing up on the Biden people, 239 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: because what people have decided about Biden is worse than 240 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: what they've decided about Trump. Trump may not be one 241 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 2: hundred percent loyal as a husband, but he's not a 242 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: bad business person. Biden's got dementia. Who are you going 243 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: to vote for the guy who's not a great husband 244 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: and maybe a little bit disloyal sometimes or the guy 245 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: who's got dementia. Most people are gonna pick the disloyal guy. 246 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: That's this race for people who are persuadable. And I'm 247 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: not trying to insult Trump. We'd be like, oh, you've 248 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: already made your mind up. Biden's worse than Trump in 249 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: the mind of the American public. And that's why I 250 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: don't think there's much play in the joints here. There's 251 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: not much movement in terms of what people are gonna think. 252 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: Well, like I said, we've got a lot to get 253 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: to on all of this, so make sure you stay 254 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: with us that we're gonna dive into the Nathan Wade 255 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: comment here shortly about how you know, No, there's no 256 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: problem with what happened in the in the Atlantic case 257 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: between him and Fani, and we'll get into it. But 258 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, I was a a sad day for the 259 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: fight for life in this country. You might have seen 260 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: Supreme Court decision came down nine to zero mifipristone. It's 261 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: a standing issue, so it gets into kind of the 262 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: legal weeds. But the abortion drug very available, maintains all 263 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: its availability across the country. And this is unfortunately a 264 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: way that a lot of abortions are happening all the time. 265 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: What can we do about this? Yes, we do what 266 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: we can to vote for the right people who will 267 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: try to push for protections for life. 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Pound two five zero Sleeve 331 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth. 332 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in. He was formerly a CNN anchor, 333 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: a Pin up model, The most interesting man on the 334 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: Upper West Side, Brian Stealter. He is still out there. 335 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing these days. He was 336 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: at CNN, as you know, I wasn't he doing like 337 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: a podcast or something these days? I'm not even really sure. 338 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 2: I heard that they're trying to hire him at The 339 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: Daily Beast, which is just evidence of how nobody's media 340 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: career is ever over. And also, didn't he get a 341 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 2: professorship at Harvard? 342 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: That's right? I think he was teaching at Harvard for 343 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: a while, so, you know, given lessons on how to 344 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: get fired from your cable news show. Anyway, here he is. 345 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: I just thought this is so funny because I want 346 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: to believe, especially when it's like a male media figure 347 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: for the sake of their masculinity, that they're saying this 348 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: stuff and they just know it's mendacious, they know that 349 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: they're fanning hysterian the line. But I actually think they 350 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: go home at night and and they're like worried about 351 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: wetting the bed because of this, Like they're completely losing 352 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: their minds about how scary it would be if Donald 353 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: Trump is president again. Here is Stalter saying that news 354 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: organizations are getting ready for the fury that will be 355 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: unleashed by Trump Lay nineteen. 356 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 7: It's valuable to think ahead to what may happen in 357 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 7: a second Trump term. This is frankly speculative nonfiction because 358 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 7: we use the words that Trump and his allies have 359 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 7: said and we use them to talk about the future. Jail, 360 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 7: of course, is an extreme part of the spectrum. Imprisonment 361 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 7: is an extreme part. But think about irs audits, think 362 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 7: about government pressure on media companies, think about other forms 363 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 7: of government interference. There are a lot of pressure points, 364 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 7: and frankly, Rachel Maddel is not the only member of 365 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 7: the media thinking about this. 366 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: I talked to the. 367 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 7: Heads of news organizations, CEOs and media companies that are 368 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 7: thinking through not in dramatic fashion, not because they're afraid 369 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 7: of going to jail, but because they want to know 370 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 7: what could Trump do to use his power in the 371 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 7: second term to punish the media. 372 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: First of all, it is in dramatic fashion, but beyond that, 373 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: the things that he lays out, the parade of terribles 374 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: that he lays out there for everybody. Clay Democrats have 375 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: been doing that. They've already been doing this. They have 376 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: already brought tremendous pressure on media organizations, on social media organizations, 377 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: on they colluded with social media to suppressed dissent that 378 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, there's so many things you can point to 379 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: and look at here, and then you add into it 380 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: weaponizing prosecutor's offices, which is even more frightening. They're scared, 381 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: and this is how lacking and self awareness they are. 382 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: Democrats are scared that Trump will start to do some 383 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: to them of what they've done already to him and 384 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: to us. 385 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: Remember, I'm being audited that hasn't gotten resolved. I had 386 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: never been audited in my entire life. I took this show, 387 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: first tax return. After I took this show, I'm immediately audited. 388 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: So the idea that you're going to be irs audited 389 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: by a political opponent, I'm not surprised. I mean they 390 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 2: said Rush gets got audited every year, that he ten 391 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 2: years in a row or something. I mean that the 392 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 2: team will know team in NYC let us know if 393 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: that's about right. But ten years in a row he 394 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 2: got audited. It was what are the odds of that happening? 395 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 6: Right? 396 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: Honest zero? It's pure political harassment. And that is what 397 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: they were doing. 398 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: And even when you don't do anything wrong. You're right on. 399 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: This process is the punishment. It's going to cost me 400 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: tens of thousands of dollars. I'm just being honest to 401 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: respond to IRS requirements. One of the requirements was that 402 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 2: I pay thirty what I don't even remember. I came 403 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 2: on here and admitted to it. The IRS told me 404 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: that I'd underpaid my taxes by thirty nine dollars and 405 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: twenty five cents. I think, mind you, I pay MILLI 406 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 2: just being honest. I've paid millions of dollars in taxes 407 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: the past several years. I got a bill for thirty 408 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: nine dollars and twenty five cents. I would say, that's 409 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: a lot of money. But you can even take your 410 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 2: family to Chick fil A on thirty nine dollars anymore. 411 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 2: Class over fifty bucks for the Travis boys and my 412 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: wife to go to Chick fil A now, so I 413 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: can't even get But they hit me with that, and 414 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 2: I'm currently under IRS audit as is, Rush got hit 415 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 2: ten years in a row. They told me, they said 416 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: this new show. I did sportstock radio for a long time. 417 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 2: I was fortunate to be well compensated. Never a blink 418 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 2: buck on any of my tax returns, start doing this one, 419 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: every tax return immediately red flagged. 420 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: Well, also that there were plenty of instances during the 421 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: Clinton administration where this was done. I just think it's 422 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: it's it's galling given what they are doing. I mean, 423 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: the argument that is, there is no response to, or 424 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: rather the point here about what they're doing to Trump. 425 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: They simultaneously held all four criminal trials for conduct that 426 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 1: occurred years ago. In all cases, they want to pretend 427 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: and like it was just happenstance that four criminal trials 428 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: were slated. Now they're not going to get them all in, 429 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: but they tried to get them all in in the 430 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: election year. That is blatant's political abuse. There is no 431 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: response to that. There's no oh, but you know the schedule, 432 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: and they have nothing to say other than that's right 433 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: because we can. There's no answer to this at all. 434 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: It couldn't be more clear and more obvious the kinds 435 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: of abuse they're engaged in and the stuff with the media. 436 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: The other funny part about this is Clay there is 437 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: the Washington Post. If Trump wins, or even just for 438 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: this election cycle, they should be sending Trump fruit baskets 439 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: they should be sending him wine and cheese boards because 440 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: their audience of lunatic liberals is going to be so 441 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: much more engaged and so much more fired up to 442 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: pay and to watch and read and everything because of Trump. 443 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if this election where Nicki Haley 444 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: versus Joe Biden, the Washington Post would be having a 445 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: banner year coming up. I don't think so they need 446 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: Trump on that wall. They want Trump on that wall. 447 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: I think that's true for the Post, probably because their 448 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: audience is uniquely focused on politics. 449 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 2: I will say this one reason I think one of 450 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 2: our mini stake bets is I actually think there's gonna 451 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: be fewer people vote in twenty twenty four than voted 452 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty this whole political cycle. Now, maybe this 453 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: is just a function of fewer cable subscribers. Maybe people 454 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: are just burned out on politics after twenty twenty. But 455 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 2: ratings are not skyrocketing at Fox News, at MSNBC, or 456 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: at CNN, even with all the chaos that is going 457 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: on in the news industry. I think that's because a 458 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: lot of people are burned out. If you tell people 459 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: long enough that Trump is the devil, it's hard to 460 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 2: ramp up the outrage beyond that. 461 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: Right, so Trump is hitler. I think people have kind 462 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: of gotten used to it, especially if you know, you 463 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: see the devil walking around the suit, playing golf, making jokes, 464 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: hanging out, you know, sending people vanilla milkshakes, Like how 465 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: bad is this devil? Exactly? I think that's the problem. 466 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: We should play. 467 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: Uh, we should play by the way, Stelter, because we 468 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 2: mentioned it, our crew went and grabbed I believe the 469 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: audio of him curled up in the fetal position. I 470 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 2: was reading an article in the New York Times, and 471 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: I've got an interesting story for us at the start 472 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: of the next hour or two that we can dive into. 473 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: Buck. 474 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: It's actually super positive about younger voters. I have a 475 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 2: theory that the reason why there are less babies going 476 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: being created is women want men to be different than them. 477 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 2: And there are a lot of left wing men that 478 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 2: have bought into this idea that women want men to 479 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: embrace their emotions and be crying all the time and stuff. 480 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: I don't think women do. I think women want men 481 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: to be tough in general and be masculine. And you 482 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 2: got a bunch of dudes who are beta males like 483 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: Brian Stelter. Fuck, do you buy into this that like 484 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: there's a there's a disconnect, because man, I dealt with 485 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: this in New. 486 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: York City right when I was a single guy. I 487 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: mean I was talking to Carrie about this just recently. 488 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: I said, you know, if you're in New York City 489 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: and you're a guy, and let's say you happen to 490 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: you know, you like pretty ladies, Yeah, you're gonna come 491 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: across a lot of pretty ladies in uh, you know, Broadway, Broadway, 492 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: you know, Broadway dancers, actresses, models, you have all these 493 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: industries in New York where you have a concentration of 494 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: particularly beautiful women. Right if you're just being superficial, but 495 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: that's true. They're almost all communists, almost all communists. And 496 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: what's amazing I experienced this myself. Sorry. And what's amazing 497 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: is they'll have like, you know, she her on their 498 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, on their profile, and they'll they'll have you know, 499 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: BLM and all this stuff, and then they complain that 500 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: they can't find a guy that they like. I'm like, yeah, 501 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: because what kind of guy? And this is why I 502 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: made the joke about being a male feminist on a 503 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: date like, these guys have got to just lie because 504 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: other men do not respect men who go around pandering 505 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: to this woke like third wave feminist nonsense. Any you 506 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: will not find a guy that anyone listening to this 507 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: likes at all as a guy who's like, oh, like, 508 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: I just really believe in like radical equality and I'm 509 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: just all about being a male feminist. And you know, no, 510 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: that's not a thing. 511 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: Like there's a difference between believing that every individual should 512 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: pursue their natural talents as far as they can go 513 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: and believing that mineral. 514 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: And Leah Thomas should swim against chicks. Yeah, which we'll 515 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: talk about. 516 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: And here is Stelter on one of the I would 517 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: say low points for masculinity in the twenty first century, 518 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: saying that he just had to have a big cry. 519 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: Listen. 520 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 7: But I have to admit to you, I had tried 521 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 7: to bottle it all up. I guess I was trying 522 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 7: to be stoic for my wife and kids. It wasn't 523 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 7: until this Friday night that I had a walk. I 524 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 7: was supposed to be finishing my nightly newsletter that I 525 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 7: mentioned earlier, but. 526 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. 527 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 7: I couldn't get it done. I was so gutted by 528 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 7: the death toll. I was so angry about the ignorance 529 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 7: in Washington. I was so worried about family members and 530 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 7: friends who are at risk of losing their jobs, or 531 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 7: who have already lost their jobs. It was that mix 532 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 7: of emotions that many of you also feel. And that's 533 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 7: when the tears came. We don't talk about this on 534 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 7: TV much. 535 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: I think we should change that. I think we should 536 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: talk about this where the tears cave. 537 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 6: You know. 538 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: I just I think Stelter is no one to blame 539 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: but himself. Was he double masking the whole time? I 540 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: don't think he took the virus. Seriously, he killed my grandma. 541 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: She's been dead twenty years, but he killed her personally 542 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: with his failure to move six feet away from people 543 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: in the elevator lack. I just look at that he 544 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: wasn't staying in the right circle in the outdoor park. 545 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: I just he got on the seesaw. I just got 546 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: to tell you that he tried to shoot basketball in 547 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: a rible hoop. I see all all of this, and 548 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 2: no woman like it, and so I want to tie 549 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: this in. I think you're starting to see a rebellion. 550 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 2: There's a Again. I know I'm an optimist, and I 551 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: know that there's a lot of cynicism and negativity out there, 552 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: But in the polling right now, Buck Trump is almost 553 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: dead even with Biden for eighteen to twenty nine year 554 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: old voters. If he is, if he were to win, 555 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: I can already see the skepticism in your face, dark 556 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: cloud freaking across the night sky or day s guy. 557 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: If he were to win, here's a stat for you. 558 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: Who was the last Republican to win eighteen to twenty 559 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: nine year old voters? 560 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: Reagan? 561 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: I would have guessed Reagan in eighty four because he 562 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,959 Speaker 2: won everything. George Bush Senior in nineteen eight. HW had 563 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: a great first election. Yeah yeah, in eighty eight. He 564 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: was the last Republican to win young voters. Trump has 565 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: a chance to do it. I'm not saying he's gonna 566 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: do it, but what is that thirty six years I 567 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: think is the chance. 568 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: I think you're starting to see a blowback in the 569 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: opposite direction. Take some of your calls here coming up 570 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: in just a moment eight hundred two two eight two, 571 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: Light up those lines. Say what you will about my 572 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: friend Porter Stansbury, The guy is incredible. He's an economist 573 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: who's one step ahead of the markets when it comes 574 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: to where's it all going. He's also the CEO and 575 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: founder of one of the most successful financial research firms 576 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: out there. Recently, he reduced his salary to a dollar 577 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: a year, choosing instead to receive a new and better 578 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: way to be compensated. But why would he make such 579 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: a decision when it comes to his own compensation. Well, 580 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: Porter did it because he says he's found a much 581 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: better way to save and get paid. He explains, there's 582 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: essentially a new form of money in America and it's 583 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: making some people extremely rich. Many of the wealthiest people 584 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: in America use it, and you can too. No, it's 585 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: not gold or bitcoin, Porter points out. What's interesting is 586 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: that while every American is legally entitled to use this 587 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: secret currency, few know much about it. Check out Porter's 588 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: latest detailed compensation plan online at secret Currency twenty twenty 589 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: four dot com. You're not likely to see this idea 590 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: or opportunity to discuss anywhere else, so go to secret 591 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: Currency twenty twenty four dot com. That's Secretcurrency twenty twenty 592 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: four dot com. 593 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 6: Twenty four Clay and Bucks weekly campaign cliff Notes episodes 594 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 6: dropped Sundays at noon Eastern on the free iHeartRadio app 595 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 6: or wherever you get your podcasts. 596 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: He's got a couple of you went to weigh in 597 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 2: a variety of different calls, giving you a little bit 598 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: of a roadmap. By the way, Nathan Wade super weird 599 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: interview that he did with CNN last night eighteen to 600 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: twenty nine year olds Leah Thomas and you might need 601 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: a lot of attention and energy, and if so, you 602 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: need to sign up for Crockett Cooffee, which is the 603 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: greatest coffee that's ever existed in the history of the world. 604 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: Has a crazy proposition, actually believes that women's sports should 605 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 2: be played by women. 606 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: Think about how crazy it's the saying crazy. 607 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 2: Is there any other coffee company in America that would 608 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: publicly say men with penises should not be women's champions? 609 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that there is. I think dav I 610 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: think Davy himself would have agreed with this. I don't 611 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: want to speak for Davy, but I'm kind of speaking 612 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 1: for him. I think he thinks that, you know, men 613 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: folks and women folk are different. I said men with 614 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: penises and some of you are going to say all 615 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: men have penises. Some women work at CNN, so I 616 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: got to specified men with penises. By the way, we 617 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: got a bunch of people who want to way in 618 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: that should be uh that that should be U be 619 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: the I media matters. Klay Travis says, men who work 620 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: at CNN don't have penises. That would be a hell 621 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: of a headline. By the way, go ahead and grab 622 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: that one. Wally in Tampa. What you got for us, Hey, 623 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: good show, guys, appreciate it. Thank you. 624 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 8: I was talking to two friends of mine just now 625 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 8: at lunch and they were talking about you. When you 626 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 8: said voter turnout, that really got me going. They said 627 00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 8: that they their family members live up and right out 628 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 8: of Charleston, South Carolina, and they were all complaining there 629 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 8: was nobody at the polls. They said they will be 630 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 8: at thirteen percent turnout in the primaries. 631 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. This is a major issue. 632 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: People complain about their politicians and then they won't show 633 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 2: up and vote to select their posses. 634 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: Where Republicans need to put on the collective dunce cap 635 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: and sit in the corner for a little bit. We 636 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: are not good as a party as a movement about 637 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: caring enough about our primaries. And this is why people 638 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: are like, why does my swamp creature keep getting elected 639 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: to the Senate. Well, because you have tiny voter participation, 640 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: and between the donor class and the people that that 641 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: guy or gal can count on, they know they're going 642 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: to win no matter how angry they make the base. 643 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: So it's on us, you know. I mean, it's all 644 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: of us, right, it's not pointing the finger at anyone. 645 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: It's all of us pointing the fingers at ourselves. Need 646 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: to do better, you know about in these primaries. So 647 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: it's just true, justin in New Jersey. You want to 648 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: ask play a question. 649 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 3: Yes, Clay, I've got two young boys aged three and one. 650 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: I kind of want to pick your brain with this 651 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 3: whole beta male nonsense that's going on in our country. 652 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 3: And how like to raise them to understand, you know, 653 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 3: with all the stuff they're going to get in school, 654 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 3: all these years coming up, how do you get them 655 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 3: to the point where they realize, you know, that there 656 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 3: is a major difference between men and women, and you know, 657 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 3: because it's going to happen at school coming forward. 658 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 6: Yeah. 659 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, congratulations on the three year old 660 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 2: and the one year old. And I don't think we 661 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 2: talk enough about men and boys in particular in crisis. 662 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 2: So one thing that you're doing that's already incredibly important 663 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 2: is you're a man and you're in the household raising 664 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 2: your kids. I think a lot of men don't live 665 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: up to masculine ideals. And the number one thing that 666 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 2: you should do is if you're a dad, be present, 667 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: be there as a dad. 668 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: I'll say this. I had a long time and he 669 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: was a very wise not all Jesuits or wise. That's 670 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: another conversation. The very wise Jesuit who ran my high school, 671 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: which was a very elite and serious place to be honest, 672 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: And I remember Clay he said once after like forty 673 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: years in education, the one thing that the one piece 674 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: of advice that he would give to families is as 675 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: often as you can have dinner together, not with the 676 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: TV on, have dinner together and talk as a family. 677 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: If you can do it every night, great, you can 678 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: do it three four nights a week, that's what you 679 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: can do. But that was his advice. I always thought 680 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,760 Speaker 1: that was interesting. It was just parents being present, present 681 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: is huge. 682 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 2: The other one I will say for boys in particular 683 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 2: reward effort, not results. You want someone to work hard 684 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 2: at something. They may not be the best athlete the 685 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 2: best student, but working hard is the key.