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Speaker 1: there are two different competing headlines coming from this big

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Speaker 1: Guess what it's not. In fact, the media has turned

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Speaker 1: in Politico. They buried this in their quote legal section

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Speaker 1: ask Special counsel John Durham won a legal victory want

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Speaker 1: are from many years ago, Tanya. Our CBS News investigative

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Speaker 1: team was able to obtain this subpoena that was sent

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Speaker 1: London Roberts, the woman who brought and settled paternity suit

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Speaker 1: financial records, and it falls into two distinct buckets. The

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Speaker 1: and out of his accounts. It asked for all documents, emails,

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Speaker 1: instant messages related to income, expenses, debts, financial transactions both

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Speaker 1: a question real quick, why is CBS News actually doing

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Speaker 1: the report that I'm playing for you now? Because I

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Speaker 1: think they realize they have no other choice, and it

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Speaker 1: may be that Hunter Biden, listening as Hollywood mega lawyer

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Speaker 1: for counsel and funding, has said, Look, let's go ahead

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Speaker 1: not too at this point. And then let's just try

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Speaker 1: to separate that story from your father. That may be

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Speaker 1: their strategy, their best option right now, because if I

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Speaker 1: was their media strategy team member right now, that's what

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Speaker 1: I would be telling them to do. And if you notice,

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Speaker 1: this report really doesn't have a lot to do with

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden. It's all about Hunter Biden trying to imply

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Speaker 1: that Hunter Biden's out on a raft by himself, that

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Speaker 1: his father knew nothing about any of this. Continue to

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Speaker 1: listen to these documents. They talk about the scope of

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Speaker 1: this new subpoena. Former US attorney told us that this

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Speaker 1: kind of subpoena really indicates to him that the US

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Speaker 1: attorney in Delaware is leaving no stone unturned in his investigation. Catherine,

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Speaker 1: why are these documents so important? Well, these documents are

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Speaker 1: important because it's part of a data chain that leads

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Speaker 1: to the grandjury testimony of London Roberts, the woman who

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Speaker 1: brought and settled that paternity suit with Hunter Biden. So

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Speaker 1: we begin with December of twenty twenty this very broad

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Speaker 1: subpoena for financial records that goes to the law firm

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Speaker 1: there was an in person meeting in the fall of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one with a representative of the US Attorney's

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Speaker 1: office in Delaware as well as an FBI agent and

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Speaker 1: an IRS enforcement agent along with his client. And then

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Speaker 1: earlier this year, in February, London Roberts goes to the

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Speaker 1: grand jury in Delaware and testifies. And what we understand

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Speaker 1: through our reporting is that it says that there is

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Speaker 1: about that the US Attorney in Delaware wanted to lock

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Speaker 1: in as testimony before that grand jury. So it's the

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Speaker 1: data chain that really matters here. So, Katherine, could any

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Speaker 1: of this information in any way implicate President Biden? I

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Speaker 1: don't want to well, I love this right very end

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Speaker 1: of the interview. Is there anything in here that could

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Speaker 1: implicate President Joe Biden? Katherine herritage listen to which I

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Speaker 1: don't want to speculate on that trying to make this

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Speaker 1: about a hunter, speculate on the standing of this investigation.

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Speaker 1: But I just want to lay out with the White

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Speaker 1: House position is and what we know through our own

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Speaker 1: reporting here at CBS. Hold on. So you didn't answer

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Speaker 1: the question did you know? Of course not. Why would

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Speaker 1: I answer that question. I don't want to speculate on that.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? I'm not gonna speculate on that.

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Speaker 1: What do you think. I don't want you to think

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Speaker 1: for a moment that I'm going to talk about President

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Speaker 1: of the United States of America when his son's clearly

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Speaker 1: involved in all this. I am no no ho no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: we are not we are not going to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: You need to be quiet. I'm just gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: what their perspective is and we're gonna move on. Translation. Dude,

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Speaker 1: he's at drug addict. Okay, that made some stupid deals

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Speaker 1: and this has nothing to do in any capacity, right,

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Speaker 1: this has nothing to do with Joe Biden. Everybody be quiet.

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Speaker 1: The present's uninvolved. We're just gonna we're gonna, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: totally separate the two. That's all this is. That's that's it.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's it's it's it's as simple as that.

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Speaker 1: They think you're this dumb. They think that you are

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Speaker 1: this stupid, that you're gonna that you're gonna fall for this,

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Speaker 1: that you're gonna look at this and you're gonna think, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's it's totally normal for a Hollywood lawyer who represents

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Speaker 1: Southpark creator and Chris Rock paying off two million dollars

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Speaker 1: of Hunter Biden's overdue taxes acting as his sugar daddy

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Speaker 1: or sugar brother. Right, Hunter Biden had his tax bill

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Speaker 1: of more than two million dollars actually paid for by

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Speaker 1: a Hollywood lawyer. Wonder why what's he trying to hide?

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's attorney said, Morris is quote a trust advisor

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Speaker 1: of the president's son. Morris also co produced the Book

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Speaker 1: of Mormon, and it is a published author. And all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, you just decide to go in and

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Speaker 1: pay two million dollars of your overdue taxes out of nowhere,

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Speaker 1: and we're not supposed to ask any questions about this

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Speaker 1: and just accept it like this is completely in totally normal.

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Speaker 1: And then you go back to Catherine Heritage again, She's like, well,

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Speaker 1: let me just tell you the White House's perspective here.

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Speaker 1: That's what you really that's what you really need to

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Speaker 1: be worried about, like this is the this is the

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Speaker 1: White House. Okay, this the White House's perspective. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say that there's any real connection here between any of

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Speaker 1: this and the president. Information in any way implicate President Biden.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to speculate on the standing of this investigation,

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Speaker 1: but I just want to lay out what the White

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Speaker 1: House position is and what we know through our own

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Speaker 1: reporting here at CBS News. Recently, the White House Chief

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Speaker 1: of Staff was asked about this issue, and he said

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Speaker 1: that the President felt that his family had done the

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Speaker 1: right thing, but then also added that these were the

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Speaker 1: actions of Hunter Biden and James Biden, the President's brother,

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Speaker 1: and that these were private matters and that President Biden

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Speaker 1: was not involved. What we know through our reporting here

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Speaker 1: at CBS News is that there was another subpoena that

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Speaker 1: was sent out to one of the mayor your banks

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Speaker 1: here in the United States, and it was seeking not

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Speaker 1: only Hunter Biden's records his former business partners, but also

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Speaker 1: the records of the president's brother, James Biden, and these

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Speaker 1: records went back to twenty fourteen. And the reason that

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Speaker 1: timing matters is that it spans a period when Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden was the vice president. Whoa, oh, let's bury that

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Speaker 1: at the end. So you got Joe Biden's brother and

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Speaker 1: his tax records being subpoenaed or his bank records being

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Speaker 1: subpoena going back to when his brother was the vice

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Speaker 1: president right twenty fourteen. But we're not going to speculate

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Speaker 1: if any of this involves the president of the United

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Speaker 1: States America. Why would we do that. His dad just

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Speaker 1: paid an eight hundred thousand dollar legal bill for his

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Speaker 1: son's businesses, right, not for a lawsuit, but for its businesses.

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Speaker 1: We know that you think you just randomly write checks

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Speaker 1: to your son for eight hundred thousand dollars. Come on, man,

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Speaker 1: to quote Joe Biden, Come on, man, don't forget to

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Speaker 1: go backwards and grab our other podcasts or we've been

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Speaker 1: diving into Hunter Biden in the corruption. We have got

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Speaker 1: series about all of this that you can grab, so

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Speaker 1: much more information than what I gave you today. That's

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Speaker 1: breaking and I will see you back here tomorrow. Also,

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