1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobalt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: All I'm hearing from people are are you to remember 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: to say the name of the show or are you 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: going to come on say it's the John and Ken 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: Show over and over again? And I would tell them 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: I know my own name. But apparently somebody wanted to 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: start a drinking game online. How many times I was 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: going to screw it up? 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: Somebody asked me how long I thought it was going 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: to take for you to get it right? 12 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 4: I said, oh, months and months and months. 13 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: You're probably right, I said a year. It's the John 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: Cobelt Show, new, not necessarily improved, but new, and that's 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: that's what it's going to be. And I just want 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: to say that Eric, you and Ray and Clay did 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: a terrific job on the Farewell Show for kid Oh 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: producing it and getting all the phone calls on from 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: people in our past and all the old clips that 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: that really was well done all of you on a 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: short timeframe. 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: So thank you. We're going to just get right into 23 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: the show and just do what we've always done all 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: these years. 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: And first up is going to be Blake Trolley from 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: KFI News and two dozen LA County cities tried to 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: end the zero bail policy in the county by taking 28 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: it to a judge. And for now they've hit a wall. 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: We're going to talk now with Blake to see what 30 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: kind of wall this is. Blake, how are you? 31 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, John Well of COURK good. You know it's so 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 5: weird John, just saying John and not guys. I got 33 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 5: to say that this might take me a few months 34 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 5: for the adjustment period here. 35 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, just say guys. 36 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 5: Anyways, Hey, you know, I have an uncle. He doesn't 37 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 5: know anybody's name in the family. So every holiday, birthday, whatever, 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 5: he just calls everybody guy. 39 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's his thing. 40 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: Hey guy, Hey buddy, Hey boss. Everybody works in fast food. 41 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: You paid them the money. Thanks boss, here's your under boss. 42 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: Whatever you want. 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 6: You know. 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 5: The other day I went to a bar alone, which 45 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 5: I rarely do, but I've heard it in there drinking, 46 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 5: and the guy came up to me and said, hey, buddy, 47 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 5: And that's when you know it's time to go. When 48 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 5: the bartender's calling you Buddy's that's your hint that you're 49 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 5: looking a little strange in there. 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been there too long. 51 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: Well what about this this lawsuit that these La County 52 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: cities brought to try to stop zero bail. 53 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: Actually this argument these go ahead. 54 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 5: Well yeah, this is being heard down in Orange County, 55 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 5: and a core argument these cities are making is that 56 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 5: the California Constitution requires courts to consider public safety when 57 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 5: setting bail. The city say, all of the crimes under 58 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 5: this blanket zero bail policy, I mean, or given the 59 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 5: size of this blanket, it's unc constitutional that these crimes 60 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 5: are too wide ranging and some of these criminals could 61 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 5: be a threat to public safety if they're allowed to 62 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 5: walk out. Now. The judge seemed to not agree with 63 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 5: their assessment and denied an injunction that would reinstate the 64 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 5: old bail system. The judge rule that bail is not 65 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 5: required under the constitution. The judge also gave the cities 66 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 5: twenty nine cities until the end of next month to 67 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 5: strengthen their arguments and come back. This morning, I had 68 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 5: to chance to speak with the attorney representing the cities. 69 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 5: It sounds like as of today the cities are in 70 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 5: the planning phase of responding. 71 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: Nonetheless. 72 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 5: Kimberly Harl Barlow, the attorney representing the city says, she 73 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 5: disagrees with this judge's ruling. 74 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 7: I think our point was that because the Constitution requires 75 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 7: taking into consideration the criminal history of the defendant, the 76 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 7: seriousness of the crime, the risk to the public, the 77 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 7: risk to the victims, that just having an across the 78 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 7: board zero bail structure does not comply with that requirement. 79 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 7: So it's not that you could never have zero bail, 80 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 7: or there might not be offenses that could reasonably be 81 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 7: subject to zero bail, but the wholesale exemption of hundreds 82 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 7: of crimes from any cash bail we think is inappropriate. 83 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 7: So I disagree with the ruling to the extent that 84 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 7: it says. 85 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 5: So she says, at least some of the cities are 86 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 5: open to talking with county officials outside of court to 87 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 5: try to find some sort of resolution. As you hear there, 88 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 5: they're not completely against zero bail for every single crime 89 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 5: that's committed, but they are saying that this is way 90 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 5: too wide ranging, and some of these crimes that have 91 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 5: been roped into here really need to have a second look, 92 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 5: and they don't believe that this blanket policy of just 93 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 5: looking at what the charges and letting somebody walk on 94 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 5: zero bail assesses public safety under the Constitution. 95 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: And this was put into effect by the Los Angeles 96 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 2: Superior Court judges, which is why the case was heard 97 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: in Orange County to eliminate that conflict of interest. So 98 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: they're the ones who implement. So I mean, who are 99 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: these city officials going to talk to? They'd have to 100 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: talk to the judges. 101 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 5: They're trying to talk directly to the LA County Court 102 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 5: judges and the LA County Court officials, and we'll go 103 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 5: straight to this haul. Barlow tells me the courts did 104 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 5: not seem interested and still do not seem interested in 105 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 5: carrying out these conversations. 106 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 7: One of the fundamental issues here is that there were 107 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 7: no efforts to meet with or reach out to law 108 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 7: enforcement prior to the formulation of these schedules, and that 109 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 7: no input was you know, as I say, invited or 110 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 7: accepted regarding that. And it's just hard to conceive of 111 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 7: how you could legitimately give public safety the top priority 112 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 7: that it's supposed to have in bailed as visions without 113 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 7: having done that. 114 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 5: Now, the court system, the LA County Court system, is 115 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 5: arguing that the release status is being determined by risk 116 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 5: to the public or victim safety, which it says is 117 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 5: consistent with the constitutional purpose of bail. I don't know 118 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 5: if you remember this, John, but La County Court officials 119 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 5: released a report at the end of October which analyzed 120 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 5: data from the first three weeks of the zero bail program. 121 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 5: The court found that three percent of people booked on 122 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 5: suspicion of crime and then were released on zero bail 123 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 5: were subsequently re arrested. That report analyzed five and thirteen bookings. 124 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 5: Forty percent of those were under bail. But that's still 125 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 5: a hefty amount of bookings that are not that are 126 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 5: now subject to this new system. And when you say 127 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 5: three percent, I was trying to do the math. That's 128 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 5: kind of hard the way that they laid out these numbers. 129 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 5: But three percent could still mean quite a bit of 130 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 5: repeat crime. As far as the actual number goes, three 131 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 5: percent sounds like a low percentage, but we're talking about 132 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 5: La County and thousands of bookings. 133 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: It also depends on whether the crimes are reported, whether 134 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: they're considered crimes. You know, one of the ways the 135 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: state rigged the parole system years ago is stopped they 136 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: stopped putting people back in prison if there was a 137 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: parole violation. Instead, they sent them to a local jail 138 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: for ten days or less. They called it flash incarceration. 139 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: So because they went to a local jail for ten 140 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: days or less, they didn't go back to a state 141 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: prison for another year like they used to. So what 142 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: they weren't counted as a recidivist that didn't show up 143 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: on the state statistic sheet as being a guy on 144 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: parole who went back and committed crimes. They just eliminated 145 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: the crime. They just put him in a local jail 146 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: for ten days and assigned him to another category. 147 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: That's what they do. 148 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: They rigged the system so that nobody's ever rearrested, rejailed, 149 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: re imprisoned doesn't happen anymore, all right, Well, very good, 150 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: Blake anything else? 151 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, well there's you know a couple Yeah, there's one 152 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 5: thing I do want to talk about, John real fast. 153 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 5: You know, I was told that some of this effort 154 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 5: could actually work against crime reform, And I'm told that 155 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 5: cops are now being much less lenient in what they 156 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 5: charge criminals with, at least in some cases. So back 157 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 5: in the day, they might have had somebody they could 158 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 5: have charged heavier, but to show a little grace or 159 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 5: to show a little kindness, they would lower the boom 160 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 5: on some of those charges. But now knowing that if 161 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 5: they lower those charges too much, this is going to 162 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 5: be somebody that walks out on zero bail, cops are 163 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 5: way less lenient and they are going to charge you 164 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 5: with the max that they can if it's a situation 165 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 5: where that determines whether or not you get bail or 166 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 5: not as a public safety measure. So in some ways, 167 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 5: the you know, from what I'm hearing, this is working 168 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 5: against a criminal reform or at least leniency on people 169 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 5: convicted or arrested for crimes. 170 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: All right, Blake, thanks very much, Blake Trolley Caffine News. Well, 171 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: you know what is the whole thing is a charade. 172 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: They once again we're talking, we're getting in the weeds 173 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: talking about the details. What these judges want, like most 174 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: of the woke progressives that run the state, is they 175 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 2: want to destroy the system entirely. They want to stop 176 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: people from getting arrested, being prosecuted, going to jail, going 177 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: to prison entirely. But they have to come up with 178 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: a legal reason. They have to come up with a 179 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: cover story. One of their core values is the whole 180 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: system is screwed because more people of color end up 181 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 2: in prison than white people, So there has to be 182 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 2: a massive rebalancing, and that's what drives them to do 183 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: this stuff. And the best way is to just empty 184 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: the prisons, stop prosecuting and stop arresting, or at the 185 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 2: very least stop with bail money. Then nobody goes to prison, 186 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: and there can't be this disproportionate thing. Of course, the 187 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: whole disproportionate argument is absurd. You get thrown into jail 188 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: or prison because of what you did, not because of 189 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: your color. So who's ever in prison right now actually 190 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 2: committed those crimes? And it was proven, But they've inverted 191 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: this entire argument. So you can't even see straight. You 192 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: can't even think straight anymore. It's like, wait a second, 193 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 2: what is this? Is this proportionate that doesn't matter. It 194 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 2: matters what you did, not the color of your skin. 195 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: And now they use the color of skin argument to 196 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 2: step by step dismantle the system. So George Gascon doesn't 197 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: prosecute most crimes, are not are not even well, nobody's 198 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: even arrested now, right, you steal something nine to fifty 199 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: or least, there's no arrests. If you're arrested, there's no prosecution. 200 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: If there's prosecution, there's no bail. If eventually you get 201 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 2: convicted by some miracle, there's no jail time or very little. 202 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: You're let out quickly. And so the purpose is to 203 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: dismantle the system. And then they get you bogged down 204 00:10:54,679 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: and arguing details. But the reasons are bogus. Real reason 205 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 2: is they want to destroy the system. Never forget that. 206 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: We're coming up, Johnny Ken KFI. I did it already? 207 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: Look at that? Oh yeah, yeah, all right, strike John Cobelt. 208 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: Oh do stop with your cackling, John all right, John 209 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 2: Cobelt Show KFI Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio App. 210 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 8: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 211 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 8: six forty. 212 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: Johnny Kent, strike too, Johnny. 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Eight 223 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 2: seven seven Moist eighty six is the number, eight seven 224 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: seven Moist eighty six and we'll be playing it again 225 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: as we always have on Fridays. Now, coming up at 226 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: one thirty, we're gonna have Carl Demayo on and he's 227 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: going to be running for a seat in the California 228 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 2: Legislature because he's so fed up with the one sided, 229 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: monolithic democratic progressive culture in Sacramento that you know, really 230 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: you got to take it back one seat at a time, 231 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: and so he's going to be trying. 232 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: We're going to talk to him. 233 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: He's down in the San Diego area talk show host 234 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: and political activist, and we've worked with him in a 235 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: number of causes over the years. But at some point, 236 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: you know, you got to get on the inside. Have 237 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: you ever been assigned to a slave contract by your employer? 238 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 9: No? 239 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: You see this story. 240 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: There is a Bay area technology executive who's being accused 241 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: in a lawsuit for forcing a woman to sign a 242 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 2: sex slave contract. And I have the contract right in 243 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: front of me here His name is Christian Lang. He's 244 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: the former CEO of a business software company called trade Shift. 245 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 2: It was originally valued in twenty eighteen over a billion dollars. Eventually, 246 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 2: he was fired about a month ago for gross misconduct 247 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 2: on multiple grounds, serious allegations of sex, assault and harassment. Now, 248 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 2: on Thursday, a woman called Jane Doe sued Lang and 249 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: Trade Shift, saying within months of her hiring as an 250 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 2: executive assistant, she was coerced into signing a slave contract. 251 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: It's led to years of rape, sexual abuse, torture, and assault. 252 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 4: So she signed it. 253 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: She signed the contract. I'm going to read you some 254 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: of the contract. You let me know where you would 255 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: have said, I'm not signing this. Okay, okay. With this contract, 256 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: Jane Do enters into a twenty four to seven slave 257 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: relationship with her master, Christian Lang. 258 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 4: Okay, right there, right there, right there. 259 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: Well, you are no fun. 260 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 2: Henceforth, Jane Doe will be known as slave she or 261 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: her Oh is this real? This is real? This is 262 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: a real lawsuit. I have the contract here. She understands 263 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: as of now that she is the full property with 264 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: no rights outside of what is outlined in this document 265 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: of Christian Lang. Henceforth known as Master Please. This contract 266 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: will run until the first of March twenty fifteen, at 267 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: which point the slave will be free to leave the contract. 268 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: Section one, the slave's roll, the slave agrees to submit 269 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: completely to the master in all ways. There there are 270 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: no boundaries of place, time, or situation in which the 271 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: slave may wilfully refuse to obey the directive of the 272 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: master without risking punishment. Accept in situations where the slave's 273 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: veto applies. 274 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 4: Oh, the slave actually has a veto. 275 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: There's another section called the slave's veto. I'll get there. 276 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 4: Wait did a lawyer put this together? 277 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: It sounds legalistic, So so far you're saying. 278 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 4: No, a big no. I'd be walking out of there 279 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 4: so fast and heading to an attorney. 280 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: The slave also agrees that, once entered into the slavery contract, 281 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: their body belongs to their master, to be used as 282 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: seeing fit within the guidelines to find herein all of 283 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: the slave's possessions likewise belong to the master, including all assets, finances, 284 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: online accounts, and material goods. So this guy not only 285 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: got her body, got all her belongings and all her money. 286 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: The slave agrees to please the master to the best 287 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: of her ability. They now exist solely for the pleasure 288 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: of mass on. 289 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: This is ludicrous. First of all, what a ding dong 290 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: to sign that. I don't understand that. And who does 291 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: this guy think he is? And was she the only 292 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 3: one that got this contract? 293 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, I guess she was. I guess she 294 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: was special. The slave's veto the slave holds vetail power 295 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: over any command given by the master, but may only 296 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: be invoked under the following circumstances where the command conflicts 297 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: with any existing laws and mainly to find arrest or 298 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 2: prosecution of the slave, or when command may cause extreme 299 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,359 Speaker 2: damage to the slave's life, such as losing their job, 300 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: cause family stress, or when the command may cause permanent 301 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: bodily harm to the slave. The next provision the slave 302 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: will always do her best to keep a behavior and 303 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: demeanor that is fitting for her role as a submissive 304 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: to her master. 305 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: And there's about twenty of these. Twenty of these rules. 306 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: You can never lie, you must always be sexually available, 307 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: and never to refuse him sex even when she's not 308 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: wearing the collar. 309 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 4: Oh okay, what kind of a business is this again? 310 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: This was a tech business. Software. 311 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: No, to always be attentive to her master and put 312 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 2: his needs above hers. Updating her diary regularly to keep 313 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: her master up to date with her emotions and state 314 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: of mind. Agree to follow her weekly schedule. Never disrespect 315 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: her master by acting rude, not listening, raising her voice 316 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: to him, not accepting his command. Never show defiance, content, 317 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: empt or anger with even body language, your tone of voice. 318 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 2: Worship her master and all of his body. 319 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 4: How much was she getting paid? 320 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. To never pleasure herself without wearing her collar. 321 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 322 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: Stop and whenever she. 323 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: Does pleasure herself nobody knowing that this privilege is given 324 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 2: to her by her master. To man, let's say, to 325 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: keep well this was in the story. To keep her 326 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 2: bodily openings available for her master, and make sure she 327 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: is cleanly washed, and always tell him if she flirted 328 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 2: with her at sexual contact with other men or women. 329 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 4: Is this in the US? 330 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: This is in San Francisco. 331 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 4: Oh my god, in San Francisco. 332 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: And San Francisco Trade Shift is the name of the 333 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: company business software. 334 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: You need to get that guy on the air. You 335 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 3: need to get somebody on the air. This is outrageous. 336 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: I want to talk to her now. 337 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: He's claiming that they had a consensual relationship and maybe 338 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: they were into this dominant submissions. 339 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 3: So this was a special contract just for her, even 340 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 3: though she worked for him. Yes, and now she's upset 341 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: that she signed this contract. 342 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: Well, then she went through years of sexual abuse. 343 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 4: How long was she at that job? 344 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 2: It said it went on for years. I mean she 345 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: signed it here in around twenty fifteen or twenty fourteen maybe, 346 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 2: and he was CEO for more than ten years. Yeah, 347 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 2: he hired her in twenty fourteen and she got fired 348 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. 349 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 3: Why does she get fired She didn't perform her slave duties. 350 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: I don't know, didn't know these kind of women were 351 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: out there. 352 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 3: Or these kind of men who would draw up such 353 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 3: a contract. 354 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: Oh, I know the men are out there. 355 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 4: I mean really, I mean, it shouldn't surprise me. 356 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: But that's no more coming up, debor Mark. 357 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know what to say after that. 358 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 2: But I could see he can pull that on you 359 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: for five second second, they would laugh. 360 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 8: You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI Am sixty. 361 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: The John Cobelt Show. 362 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 2: There I go on one for three John Cobelt Here 363 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 2: Live on the twenty four hour iHeart what is it? 364 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 2: I forgot the rest of it. Now the iHeart Radio 365 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: App's on the iHeartRadio app. Sure, and we're on the 366 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: radio one till four and after four o'clock. It is 367 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: the John Cobelt Show on demand. By the way, there 368 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: is much much more to that slave contract that this 369 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: tech guy had with his assistant. And I went to 370 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 2: the sexual pages. Of course, you did extremely graphic and 371 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: detailed things that are impossible to describe on American radio. 372 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: Right now, I just cannot believe this is really happening. 373 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: I mean, what are we I mean, we're in twenty 374 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 3: twenty four almost. 375 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess, but she went for this, 376 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: at least for a while. 377 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, something soured in that relationship. Yeah, maybe she didn't. 378 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 4: Well I'm just guessing that maybe there was a financial 379 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 4: situation gone wrong there. 380 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: If she's wearing the collar and she sees her master 381 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 2: in private for the first time, she's to kneel and 382 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: ask if there's anything she can do for him, That's that's. 383 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: How I mean. 384 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 4: Look, there are relationships like that, right, are there? 385 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: Yeah? 386 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 3: I mean you hear about them. I mean I haven't 387 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 3: been involved before. You ask, but you have heard of them. 388 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: We have Carl Demyle on the line here. Carl Demayle 389 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 2: has been on with us frequently. He's a talk show 390 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 2: host andy San Diego. He's been on the city council there, 391 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: and he's also been an activist. We've worked with him 392 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: many causes trying to change all the absurd politics in California, 393 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 2: and he's decided now maybe it's time to run for 394 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: State Assembly and go directly into the belly of the beast. 395 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: Karl Deamaiya, welcome, How are you John? 396 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 9: Thanks so much for having me on. I think I've 397 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 9: lost my mind. A lot of people have called me worried, 398 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 9: saying are you okay? Why are you doing this? And 399 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 9: it really is because I am so fed up and 400 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 9: frustrated with the lack of fight in our state. I 401 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 9: have to blame both political parties in California for the 402 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 9: mess that our state is in that's caused so many 403 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 9: millions of people to flee in recent years. Democrats, obviously, 404 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 9: I think they got the terrible ideas. They are awful 405 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 9: with their ideas. Their policies are hurting every Californian, from 406 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 9: higher costs of living to crime, to homelessness. It's just 407 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 9: it's insane. But the Republicans I have to blame as well, 408 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 9: because they're not putting up a fight. The handful of 409 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 9: Republicans we have are either too timid or too scared 410 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 9: to fight, or they're too inept. And I think, you know, 411 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 9: people want to see a radical change in our state government. 412 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 9: They want to see both points of view presented, and 413 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 9: they're not seeing that currently. So I started thinking about 414 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 9: doing this John back in October when Kevin McCarthy fell 415 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 9: from the speakership, because I anticipated he'd be leaving office 416 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 9: and I don't think he would want to be a backbencher, 417 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 9: And I said, well, who's going to fill the void? 418 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 9: Who's going to step up? And it's not me alone. 419 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 9: I started talking to others and we came up with 420 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 9: this idea of running a slate of candidates for the 421 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 9: state legislature, which would include the state Senate and the 422 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 9: State Assembly, and building something called the Reform California Caucus 423 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 9: in Sacramento of elected officials. And we have enough people 424 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 9: committed to doing this that I think this is going 425 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 9: to be something that will be a needle mover. 426 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 2: And you're all going to be running in the next cycle. 427 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 9: In March, Yes, March election, it's less than three months away. 428 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 9: And then the runoff obviously is in the general election 429 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 9: in November. 430 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, let me. 431 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: Let me ask you some because this I've thought about 432 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: this a lot. It's puzzled me, as it puzzles you. 433 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: There are a lot of issues which nearly all my 434 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: life I didn't think were political issues. I don't think 435 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 2: anybody wants rampant smash and grab robberies, for example, right, 436 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody wants seventy thousand homeless people sleeping 437 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 2: in the streets dying of opioids. Nobody wants that. That's 438 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 2: not I've never thought of that. Is that a conservative 439 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: view point of progressively, I've never thought of that. It's 440 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: a Democrat Republican thing. It's just that, No, we can't 441 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 2: have criminals running amuck like we do. We can't have 442 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 2: people living and dying in the streets like we do. 443 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: We can't have a sixty eight billion dollar budget deficit. 444 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: I mean, you just can't have this stuff. And everybody 445 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: agreed on it. And at what point did the Republican politicians, 446 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: what few are left, just surrender on all this stuff 447 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: and not mount any kind of a pushback on the insanity. 448 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: Why. 449 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 9: I think it's because anyone worth their salt, anyone who's talented, 450 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 9: looks at Sacramento and says, well, do I want to 451 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 9: go up there, and being part of a permanent minority, 452 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 9: I'm not going to be able to pass my bill 453 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 9: because it's so lobsided, with the governor being a Democrat 454 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 9: and the legislature being a supermajority Democrat legislature. But that's 455 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 9: not how I see leadership. I see leadership as speaking 456 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 9: truth to power, going up and challenging them every day 457 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 9: on their corrupt agenda and what they're doing wrong. But 458 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 9: then the other part of leadership is changing the political 459 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 9: system from the outside, and that means you use a 460 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 9: legislative seat to organize the opposition, to educate voters, to 461 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 9: hold press conferences, to do town halls, to file ballot measures, 462 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 9: to collect signatures, to recruit candidates. I'm looking for a 463 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 9: team of agitators across the state, and I think we have, 464 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 9: you know, eight to ten great candidates, and more are 465 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 9: calling me every day saying, hey, I want to join. 466 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 9: I'm committed. Here's the seat I'm running for and so 467 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 9: we've been inundated by people wanting to be part of 468 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 9: this movement. And I don't trust the Republican politicians to 469 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 9: figure this out. We gave them twenty years and every year, John, 470 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 9: you've seen the same thing I've seen, which is these 471 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 9: guys get picked off by the Democrats and there's fewer 472 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 9: and fewer of them. 473 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 2: Can you create a third party because so many people 474 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 2: recoil when they see the word Republican on the ballot. 475 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 2: If they see an R, it's automatic, They're not going 476 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 2: to vote for them for whatever reason. Right, And I'm 477 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: thinking I would just dispense with that name, dispense with 478 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 2: that brand, because it clearly doesn't work here and there's 479 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: not too many people who want to buy the product. 480 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: So come up with a new brand, a new product, 481 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 2: and maybe people will give it a fair shot. 482 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 9: You know. I know a lot of people talk about that. 483 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 9: I think we're stuck with the two party system, and that's, 484 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 9: you know, just the way our country has been since 485 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 9: pretty much the founding. What I'm trying to do, though, 486 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 9: is get beyond the party label and say, look, if 487 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 9: you oppose the gas tax, then you're part of the 488 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 9: reform California Movement, and a lot of Democrats will join us. 489 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 9: I think we need to start defining issues as what 490 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 9: we're talking about, inviting everybody to the table, and sometimes 491 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 9: John it means we have to challenge Republicans for being 492 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 9: do nothing, uninspired and lazy in their approach. I gotta say, 493 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 9: there's a number of bad policies in California. The gas 494 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 9: tax is one of them where a Republican voted for 495 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 9: the bad idea. You know, Chad Mays, the former I 496 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 9: remember that a bunch of Yeah, you held them accountable. 497 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 9: I mean a lot of bad votes that that guy cast. 498 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 9: So when you have. 499 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: We hold them accountable on the air and give them 500 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 2: a real rough time, and then he goes and runs 501 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 2: and gets elected again. Anyway, I mean, well, the voters 502 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 2: keep voting this way and everybody's unhappy, and still they're 503 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 2: going to vote for more bad candidates in twenty twenty four. 504 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: And I don't understand the disconnect. 505 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 9: I think that there will be seats that we're going 506 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 9: to flip. And the disconnect is that you have such 507 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 9: a terrible state of the Republican Party. They don't have volunteers, 508 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 9: they don't have college students or high school students. They 509 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 9: don't have good candidates. I've heard from candidates across the 510 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 9: state that said the California Republican Party never return their 511 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 9: call when they ask for help with the filing of 512 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 9: paperwork just to get on the ballot, and that we 513 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 9: lost a seat because they didn't file the right paperwork 514 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 9: for the seat. That is absolutely inexcusable when you don't 515 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 9: have an opposition party that will help people who want 516 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 9: to step forward and offer all sort of So that's 517 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 9: why I'm running. Well. 518 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: I understand your point of having a two party system, 519 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 2: but when the second party has become a non party, 520 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: then we should replace that second party with something else 521 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: that's functional, because the current whatever the Republican Party is 522 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: in this state is non functional as if they exist. 523 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 9: And so my view is we create a reform California movement. 524 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 9: We get beyond party labels. We invite anyone who's a 525 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 9: Democrat or Republican to work with us if you agree 526 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 9: with our agenda of making California more cost effective, cost affordable, 527 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 9: putting the criminals back behind bars, cleaning up the homeless 528 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 9: from the streets, fixing our schools. These are very basic issues. 529 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 9: That seventy percent of Californians agree on one last thing 530 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 9: about what we have to do. Our elected officials cannot 531 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 9: be button pushers anymore. You know, they go up to Sacramento, 532 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 9: they push the button, and you know what, if you 533 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 9: push the button the right way, I guess I'll give 534 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 9: you a little bit of credit. But your job as 535 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 9: an elected official isn't just to push the damn button. 536 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 9: Your job is to educate the voters and go out 537 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 9: and help create the movement. That's what these people have 538 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 9: not been doing on the Republican side in California. That's 539 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 9: what this whole movement represents. And look, I think you 540 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 9: would probably acknowledge that Reform California has been the agitator 541 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 9: for the last five years and the things that move 542 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,719 Speaker 9: the needle gas sash Appeel recalling Josh Newman. I believe 543 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 9: that if we're going to actually get more traction, we've 544 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 9: got to take our fight inside the value of the beast, 545 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 9: inside the legislature. And so if people want to help, 546 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 9: they can throw into contribution or sign up for more 547 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 9: information at reform California dot org. That's Reform California dot org. 548 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 9: And if not now when if not you who? 549 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: All right, Carl, thanks, got to run Carl Demio and 550 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: he's got to be running assembly down in the San 551 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: Diego area. It's the John Cobelt Show on the iHeart 552 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: the twenty four hour. Oh man, I am confused, Live 553 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. 554 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 8: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 555 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 8: six forty. 556 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Show. 557 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 9: Right. 558 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: Oh, Ken is probably sitting at home in his underwear 559 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: now laughing. One yeah, one for four. Okay, we're going 560 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: to talk with Alex Stone coming up after two o'clock 561 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: from ABC News. This is a cool story. Some Russian 562 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 2: guy bordered a plane in Denmark, made it all the 563 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: way to Los Angeles. No passport, no visa, no plane 564 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: ticket and Scandinavian airlines. You don't need those things anymore. 565 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 2: You can just walk on a plane. I assume you 566 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: didn't pay for the ticket since he didn't have it, 567 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: and no any question in being on the plane. And uh, well, 568 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: the whole story is going to come from Alex at 569 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: least as much as we know. 570 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 6: I was just I was just telling Ray I was 571 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 6: at JFK last night, flying back from New York and 572 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 6: I definitely saw a few people that had a bunch 573 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 6: of paperwork and one way tickets out of New York. 574 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: And I want. 575 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 6: To say that probably were the illegals that were getting 576 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 6: shipped to New York and now New York's trying to 577 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 6: ship them out. And one guy had I was at 578 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 6: the security checkpoint where they check your ID and then 579 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 6: they checked to see if your name's on any of 580 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 6: the flight manifest before you go through security, like the 581 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 6: machines and everything, and this guy had a ticket with 582 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,239 Speaker 6: his name on it and a flight number, but the 583 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 6: TSA people were saying that the flight number he had 584 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 6: on his ticket was different and not matching the ticket 585 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 6: and the flight number they had in the computer for him. 586 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: So there was a whole big mess. Yeah. 587 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 6: So when this Russian stone thing, when I saw it 588 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 6: on the on the pile this morning, I was like, oh, 589 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 6: this is this is probably something very similar to that. 590 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: HIGs. 591 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: He almost made it all the way through. So Alex 592 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: is going to have that coming up after two o'clock. 593 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: We've been reading pieces from the paragraph from the slave 594 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: contract that this tech executive in San Francisco uh coerced 595 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: a woman to sign. And now she's now she's suing, 596 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 2: and come, I'm not hearing myself. Oh now I'm hearing myself. 597 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 9: Now. 598 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 2: Remember I told you she signed the contract and worked 599 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: under this contract for years and the uh, the executive 600 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: and his name is Christian Lang. He was CEO of 601 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: a business software company named trade Shift. One of the provisions, Uh, well, 602 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 2: this was this allowed the slave, the executive assistant, to 603 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: get out of the contract. 604 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 4: And I can't believe he's allowed to even have that 605 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 4: word in there. Now. 606 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 2: Well, since the body of the slave now belongs to 607 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 2: the master, it's the master's responsibility to protect that body 608 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: from permanent bodily harm. Should the slave ever come to 609 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: permanent bodily harm during the course of punishment or any 610 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 2: other activity, it will be grounds for immediate termination of 611 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: the contract. So she could get out of the contract 612 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 2: if something really bad happened to her. And you want 613 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 2: to hear the provisions, bodily harm shall be determined as 614 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 2: number one death that's permanent, So if she died, she 615 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: could get out of the contract. Any damage that involves 616 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: loss of mobility or function, including broken bones, any permanent 617 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: marks on the skin including scars, burned damage, or tattoos 618 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: unless accepted by the slave. Number three, Any loss of 619 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 2: hair by ripping the hell. 620 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: Were they doing? 621 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 4: Oh my god. 622 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: Any diseases that could result in any of the above results, 623 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: including STDs. You could get out of the contract if 624 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: you suffered drastic loss of circulation from bondage chains or 625 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 2: other forms of restraints. Any activity that caused internal bleeding. 626 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 2: Any activity that caused extended, unintended loss of consciousness. So 627 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: this this came would come largely from the sexual activity 628 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 2: these two were having. 629 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 4: Right now. 630 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 3: Is this a standard contract that he hands out to 631 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 3: all his female employees or was she special? 632 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 9: Uh? 633 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 2: You know it doesn't say in the law lawsuit, there's 634 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: nobody else that's uh, it's. 635 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 4: Come forward, come forward yet, So maybe some other female 636 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 4: employees are still. 637 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 2: But he must have worked this out over over time 638 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 2: because it's so detailed. 639 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean there there's uh. 640 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 2: And then the last uh, the last provision is slave's signature. 641 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 2: It's section nine. I have read and fully understand this 642 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,479 Speaker 2: contract in its entirety. I agree to give everything I 643 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 2: owned to my master, and further accept the claim of 644 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: ownership over my physical body. I understand that I will 645 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 2: be commanded and trained and punished as a slave. And 646 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 2: I promised to be true and to fulfill the pleasures 647 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 2: and desires of my master to the best of my abilities. 648 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 2: I understand I cannot withdraw from this contract except as 649 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 2: stated in the contract, such as death, and you're allowed. 650 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 4: To break the contract. 651 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 2: So if this is all real, she very clearly would 652 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: have been aware of. 653 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 4: Right, Well, I want to know. I want to talk 654 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 4: to her. 655 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: Are you I love together? But she's only Jane Doe 656 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: right now? All right, we got more coming up. 657 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 2: Alex Stone's going to come on about this Russian man 658 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 2: who ended up in Los Angeles, no passport, no visa, 659 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: no plane ticket on a Scandinavian Airlines jet. Deborah Mark 660 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 2: live in the twenty four hour CAFI Newsroom. Hey, you've 661 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 2: been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can 662 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: always hear the show live on KFI AM six forty 663 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 2: from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, and 664 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 2: of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio. 665 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 9: Yah