WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Strong First Impressions? 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.040 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:18.759 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.919 ready for a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:27.240 Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:32.640 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:38.879 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.479 It is Wednesday, January twenty ninth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:46.080 Episode number one thirteen. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.840 We're locked in s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.960 We've got an hour of Cowboys Talk for you guys today, 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:53.800 and we're gonna talk a little bit about the coaches. 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:57.680 They met the final the staff has been finalized, and 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.520 they met with the media earlier this week. We're gonna 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:02.840 talk about some of the things that stood out as 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.640 we talk to them a little bit later in the show. 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:08.920 We're also going to get into finishing up ore We've 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:11.400 been doing this the last two shows, but finishing up 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:15.280 our evaluation of the free agency market, particularly the Cowboys 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:18.600 free agents, and and whether the Cowboys shouldn't move on 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.360 for those players or keep them or sign them, or 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.640 how big, what priority they should be. I think we 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:25.560 have the secondary left to do, and there are a 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:27.760 ton of guys in the secondary. They we'll have to 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:29.520 talk about in that way, and then in the third 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:31.479 segment we certainly will get into some questions. You guys 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.959 can call us numbers eight eight eight eight five five 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.199 two two ninety seven, or you can hit us on Twitter. 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:38.240 You can hit my Twitter account at Derek Eagleton. I'll 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:41.800 take your questions there and we'll get into some good 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:46.520 Cowboys talk. How's ever ready doing today? Great? Darren? Out 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.520 of breath, just listening to you there. Man, gotta go, man, 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:52.160 you gotta gotta Well. It feels kind of weird because 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.480 I mean, you guys did a show last week. Yeah, 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.120 we're back here hanging out. But y'all, yeah, yeah, y'all, 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.440 y'all did a show last It's still just where you're 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.480 doing it once a week though, it does. But but 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.480 I'm liking it. Yeah, I'm not playing. I'm liking it. Sorry, 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.880 everybody do it? Yeah? All right, So let's jump in 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.600 earlier this week, the Cowboys coaching staff. The new coaching 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:15.640 staff on their only two holdovers. I guess if you 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.040 count Leon, that would be three. He counts well, but 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:22.200 he's not like he's like an assistant position coach. If 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.880 you're thinking, yeah, the coordinators and the position coaches, there two, 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.359 but but Leon is an assistant defensive line coach. But 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:30.800 three holdovers. Um, So let's go around the table. I 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:32.480 want you guys just tell me as you were talking 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.320 to the coaches. It could even be a lot that 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.760 you just thought of as at just how the staff 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:38.600 was put together. But I just want to talk about 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.520 about some of the different things you've noticed, um, that 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:43.840 that you've you know, that just caught your attention about 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.400 this coaching staff. Let's start with you Nick. I think 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:50.200 that uh, you know, there's a lot of experience. Obviously 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.320 that that's one thing that stands out the most. But 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.480 I just think it's a good mixture of a lot 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:59.400 of different things. You've got guys that have been head coaches, 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.320 you have eyes that have been college coaches. In the 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:07.399 Marissa Linquist, you have um a culture coach pretty much. 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.320 I mean the assistant head coach, Rob Davis is a 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.680 culture coach. I just think it's a it's a good 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:15.720 mix of a lot of different things that it's not 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.000 this is what we do. That's what we're used to 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.400 Jason Garrett, And I think it's just it's just a 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:25.720 good mixture of of young, old, you know, pro coaches, 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.679 college coaches, just just a lot of different things to 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.679 kind of thrown in here. And I think McCarthy will 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.160 be the right guy. Hopefully he's the he's the guy 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.360 the kind of you know, mixes it all together. Yeah, 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.400 it's actually I did the math on it. I just 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:41.040 realized I forgot to include Mike McCarthy in that. So 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:44.200 it's this staff has one hundred and sixty five combined 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:50.400 years of NFL coaching experience and throw in McCarthy's fifteen, 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:54.000 I think, and so well, how to I have no 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.760 last year? I thought last year? No, no, no, no no, no, 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.840 what was happen? Think it was probably be half of that. 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:04.600 If I had to guess, Kellen Moore and Colombo, those 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.360 guys are sitting at one. Colombo, you got Keith O'Quinn 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:12.440 with like less than five years of experience, ms only 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.040 got four or five, two or three. Yeah, it might 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:18.400 have been way less difference, Yeah, much different. Uh. Yeah, 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.880 Like I said, I think they overcorrected. I don't mean 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:22.320 that in a bad way. They just were like, we're 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.440 going to do the opposite of what we were doing before. Right, 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:29.160 there's five guys with head coaching NFL head coaching experience. Uh, 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.960 there's another two or three that have been coordinators. Some 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.160 of these guys have had really nice NFL careers. Al 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.040 Harris is a long time starter in the NFL. Really 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.080 good player, by the way, Yeah, a really good players game. 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.159 Leon Lett maybe not on the level that Al Harris was, 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:47.159 but definitely had a long, you know, a nice NFL career. Um, 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.320 I think he was better than Al Harris, wasn't he 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:51.560 You think, Well, I don't know Dal Harris ever make 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:54.039 a Pro Bowl. I don't know that. On the top 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:55.839 of my head. I kind of think he did too. 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.080 He was pretty good player for a while. Well, Al 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.160 Harris didn't have two big blunders on that National TV either. 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.520 The point being is talking about guys with like decade 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.080 long careers, even you know, the lowest guy on the 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:09.520 Tone Poles probably Scott Tolziene and he played in the 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:13.560 league for a while. Yeah. So yeah, I mean that's 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:15.120 the thing that jumps off the page to me. The 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.760 other thing I tweeted that out and a few people 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:19.920 were like, well, do you worry that that's kind of 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.480 a too many cooks in the kitchen type of situation. 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.800 And I don't think so, because the other thing is like, 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:28.640 this is going to sound bad, But these are not 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:32.360 like ascending coaches, you know what I mean. These are 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:36.360 not guys that are like trying to climb the ladder 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.440 and be the like they've done all that kind of 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.200 like Rob Marinelli. Rob Marinelli's like, I've been there, I've 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.520 done that. I've had some high highs and some really 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:47.280 low lows, extremely extremely low lows. And I don't think 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.200 anybody here had a low quite on Rod's level. But 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.200 these are, like I said, and that doesn't mean they're 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.800 bad coaches, but they've been through the ringer of the 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.960 highs and lows of the NFL coaching experience. I mean, 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:02.200 they've all been fired multiple times times, they've had failed 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.880 head coaching stints, and again I don't necessarily think that 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:08.080 means they're bad coaches, but I think when you've been 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:11.039 through that, you're a little bit more content to just 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.040 kind of be like, let's let's go with that. You're 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.880 more thankful for the job actually, and you're not just 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.640 doing this looking for your next opportunity so much. Yea, 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:21.400 And I think that could be a good thing. Sometimes 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.680 there's value in having that experience and knowing, you know, 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:26.520 I don't even want the hit guy, Like I don't 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:28.480 want to be hit colched anymore. Like I don't know. 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.960 I haven't talked to Joe Philbin about that, but maybe 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.800 Joe Philbin is like I really love coaching offensive line, 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:36.240 Like I've had enough of that hit coaching thing in Miami. 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:38.640 I'm good if I just coach offensive line from here 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.520 on out. Mike Nolan may be the same way I 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:42.880 tried it in forty with the forty nine ers. I'm 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.520 just happy being a defensive a defensive coordinator. That's where 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.320 I want to be. And so there's some value in that. 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.080 You look at guys like well, if wait Phillips, they're 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.600 a good example of that. They're just really good coordinators, 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.000 really good position coaches don't necessarily have to be a hitler. 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.479 I don't know about Joe Philbin or Mike Nolan, but 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.159 I can tell you that's how Jim tom Sula came across. 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.400 That's my new favorite guy in the world, by the way. 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.039 He's fun to talk to and he's started like he 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:06.640 started out the whole thing. He was like, I'm not 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.560 good at this media stuff. I just try to get 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.520 through without cursing. I was like, we're gonna be friends, 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:15.280 you know. But that's been That's also been the experience. 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.800 I'm sure you guys have added too. Having this, it's 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.119 almost like a breath of fresh air. Again, nothing against 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.080 the guys that were here before, but it's been at 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:26.600 least three or four coaches that just in our training table, 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.640 which is the area where we go for lunch, I've 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:30.040 just walked up to me and been like, hey, how 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:32.000 you doing. My name is whatever? What's your name right? 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.280 It's just there's a there's a there's an openness right now. 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.560 Now that may all change once they start hearing us 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.000 and we kind of going in on him after a 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:43.640 bad game. But it's been really refreshing. And Tom Sulu 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:45.480 wasn't a good example that came up. We talked for 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.760 probably about ten minutes, and it's just a nice seems 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.360 like a really really nice guys, just very very down 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.120 to earth. We'll see how well he coaches, but you know, 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:57.120 so far, I like the guy. It's funny, I'm stealing 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.880 this anecdote from Taylor Stern. But she introduced herself to 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.240 Mike Nolan the other day, and you know, I I 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:05.120 you know, you get to talk to these guys and 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.480 it's useful and you want to build relationships, but at 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:09.280 the same time you want to be like respectful and 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:12.400 give them their distance. And so she introduced herself to 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:14.600 Nolan and he was like, it's so nice that you 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.840 came up and said something, because like nobody's talking to us, 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:19.480 like we're like the new kids at school. I was like, 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:22.600 y'all feel like the dorky, out of place kids at 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:25.400 school because like I'm just trying to be respectful and 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:28.120 give it your distance because you're these big time football coaches. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.600 But like they feel, I guess out of place because 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:33.480 they just got here. And so yeah, like they're eager 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.120 to get to know people and have conversations. And it 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:39.360 makes me think, makes me wonder if at other teams 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.480 there's less of the walls that maybe we have here 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.600 where because of our our roles here, absolutely we tend 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:47.160 to you know, we tend to be a little bit 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:50.040 more I think forthride in our opinions about the team, 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.360 which could you know, create that kind of distance. Not 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:53.800 only that, but I think, I mean, I think this 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:58.080 is a rare instance of like an NFL building where 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:03.280 like the completely non football staff intermingles with the football staff, 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.959 Like and we don't really count, right because like we 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.800 do media, we interview these guys, but like you know, 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.560 the accountants and the lawyers are down there getting lunch 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:13.400 next to the coaches and players. I don't think that 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:17.080 happens in a lot of buildings. Amber. What struck you 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.480 about this coaching staff? Well, you know I always talk 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:23.680 about me trying to analyze people and looking at them 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:27.040 their behavior, how they move, where they look, and all 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:31.520 these things, and this is I mean, it's fun because 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.360 I can't figure it out, Like I don't know how 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:38.120 it all comes together, which is exciting, but at the 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:41.720 same time, the unknown. It's the unknown, like it could 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:45.040 go either way, but it's still fun to kind of 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:49.000 see all these different guys, different ages, different kinds of 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:53.760 experiences to come together and build something new, something that 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.920 how do you say, he's them fassilas Fossil or Fassi 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:05.200 right Fossil? Okay, Well him, I think I really like 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.680 what he said during his interview. One of the things. 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.520 You know, you keep wondering how they're gonna make this 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:14.240 Special Teams better from what we've seen in the past years. 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:18.560 And something he didn't necessarily go into full details. You know, 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:20.720 they're not really going to get into all that, but 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:24.439 once something that I liked hearing is the fact of 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:28.640 just making the players feel important, making them feel like 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.040 day don't necessarily get to choose their own players. You know, 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.280 you have to work when it comes to Special Teams. 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.200 You have to work with what you already got in 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.960 the roster. So being able to have that kind of 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:42.160 mentality and being like, you know what, my plan here 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:46.640 is to start fresh, clean and just make sure that 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:50.880 these players feel like they're important, they are their starters 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.280 in Special Teams. So that kind of mentality I really 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.280 really like to hear. Yeah, he was really that was 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:01.439 a refreshing interview. You know. I asked him a bunch 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:03.480 of questions there about that, and he, you know, he 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.920 said what she just said, But you know, hey, it 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.160 you you matter. It's a third a third a third 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.320 in McCarty. He goes, Mike McCarthy told me that Special 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:17.360 Teams is absolutely on the same levels offense defense. He goes. 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:20.400 That's all I needed to hear, So that sounds good. 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.480 I just hope that when it comes down to free 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:27.360 agency draft things like that, that you're drafting that way 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.160 and he can get the guys that he wants and 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.480 more important than cuts, like that's the part where it 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.800 becomes a big deal is when you start making those cuts, 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.560 are you factoring in how's this affecting your special teams? 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:38.800 That's the part that really it's always like the receiver. 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.240 It's that fifth guy that's like he's a young receiver 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:43.680 and then receivers coaches like he's going to develop. It's like, okay, 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:47.319 but he can't recover a punt. Ventell Bryant can do that. Now, 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.280 Well that veteran guy. Yeah, that guy you're trying to 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.560 keep around and he's your third or fourth guy, but 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.240 he's not gonna help you on special teams. He can't 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.200 play special teams. Yeah, I got it like that. Yeah, Dave, 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.520 tell me something that you heard from one of the 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.000 coaches that that really stood out to you. I spent 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.160 spoiler alert, I spent a long time talking to Jim 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:09.319 tom Sula. Um nah, No, he's fun to which I 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.880 mean it's it's kind of it's been a trend. I mean, 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.920 McCarthy's been saying it is, like, you know, they're just 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.360 not buying into this hype about like four three verse 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.720 three four. So then and that was a big part. 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.240 He had this whole spiel, you know, Tom Seula had 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.719 this whole spiel. Nick really loved it. He's like, if 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.960 you're weak, if you're strong side defensive end, stands up, 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.000 you're playing three four And if he puts his hand 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:31.920 in the dirt, you're playing four three. Like, it's really 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:36.480 not it's not that right. He's like, that's what it is. 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.719 It's kind of true. Which but honestly, that wasn't even 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.880 the thing that jumped out to me the most. Um. 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:45.080 The other thing that I really loved hearing him say, 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:48.280 ed Warder was asking him about, um, you know, how 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.439 do you rotate your guys? That was the thing that 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.480 it was a source of consternation all last season. And remember, 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.560 I think it was the Eagles game or d Law 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.480 and Quinn were like on the sideline and crunch time. 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:03.040 Tom Seula was like, Yeah, I love rotating my guys. 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.360 If all of them can play. If I look out 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:09.000 there and it looks different then we got problems, which 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.880 love that. Yeah, And he was like he was like 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.560 my first He's like my first year in San Francisco. 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:16.960 He's like, we had four guys that could rush, And 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.040 I told him like, if you tap your helmet, I'm 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.320 looking the other way, like I'm not letting you come out. 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:22.840 And if you got a problem with that, you can 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.720 talk to the guys behind you and help them work 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.520 their game up, because otherwise you're not coming out. We'll 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:32.000 see if that actually we'll see that love it. We'll 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.080 see if it actually plays out that way. But it 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:38.360 was fun to hear. Yeah. It's funny how just being 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:42.280 vocal about something like that can make a difference in 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:46.320 our perceptions, you know, how you perceive things, because it 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.719 could have been the same way last year, even though 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.480 they weren't doing it on the field, But just admitting 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.640 that or saying something like that, it makes you feel like, Okay, 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:59.000 you feel better, regardless of what the outcome is, but 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.400 it makes you feel better. Just like Mike McCarthy when 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.160 he came up here and did his first press conference, 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:08.760 just hearing him being so vocal about things and you're like, okay, yeah, 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:10.640 I mean it's just the person, you know, just what 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:12.520 Anna do with my hands, I mean, just stuff like that. 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:15.000 I mean just yeah, and I think you're seeing the 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:18.000 personality of some of these guys. But that part right 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.560 there is very very good to hear, just because there 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:22.960 was so many times last year when it just felt 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.760 like third, you know, this is the third rotation, you know, 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.480 and they got a punt back to the eight yard line, 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.160 so it's first and ten back at the eight and 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.600 the crowd's getting involved. This is where you have a 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.080 chance to really pin them back, and it's like, why 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:40.080 is it Armstrong, Hyder, Tristan Hill and Bennett here? Like 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:43.400 why is these the four? Like you know, you know, 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.960 let's get a safety. Yeah, and they went ninety two 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:50.120 for a touchdown, so that didn't really matter, but yeah, 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.440 he I mean Tom Speueler probably taught like the average 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.160 these interviews averaged probably I don't know, ten to twelve 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:01.400 minutes a piece, Like they weren't these super depth things, 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.440 but I mean Tom Sewela talked for like twenty five minutes. 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.480 It was awesome, and I was just like, thank god 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:10.640 we had extra people because I kind of like I 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:11.960 looked around, I was like do I need to be 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:13.960 somewhere else, and everybody else had a cover, So I 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:15.760 was like, cool, because I don't really want to leave. 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:17.560 I'm gonna stand right here and talk to Jim tom 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.320 Sewel you guys talk to me a little bit about 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.840 Rob Davis. That's an interesting you mentioned it a little earlier. 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:23.840 He's a guy's coming in. He as the title of 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.720 assistant head coach. It's more of a culture coach. Met 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:28.760 him down in the training table. He's just talking about 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.080 some of the stuff that they're that they're wanting to do, 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.200 And it was really fascinating to me because I haven't 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.400 really heard Maybe there are other guys like this around 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.360 the league, but I hadn't really heard of other teams 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.760 that had a position quite like this, and especially a 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.160 position like this that has the title of assistant head coach. 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:45.600 Talking about what you've heard from him and just about 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.040 what you think this position will be that it's really 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:50.640 tough to kind of figure that out. He was asked 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:54.600 that question several times about you know, I guess the 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.800 line from the movie Office Space, like what would you say? 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:02.440 What would you say? You do here? Like he asked 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.400 that question. Now it was several different people, you know, 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.360 just in a in a nice way, like so what 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:11.560 are you gonna be doing? But he did talk about 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.600 culture a lot and and kind of coaching the coaches, 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.360 and he said, yeah, I'll get on the XS and 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:20.000 os if I need to, I help the special teams 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.640 if I need to. But I think that you know, 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:26.080 his his what he's gonna do is is really like 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.400 any assistant head coach is gonna be kind of the 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.560 guy that eyes and ears a little bit for McCarthy, 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:32.880 but I think he'll do it in a way where 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.240 he's a part of the team and not like that 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.960 that assistant that's like, you know, running to the coach 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:42.200 and every time you see something you didn't like, is that? 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.920 Is it more kind of managing just the culture of 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.440 what's going on around If a little you know, thing 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:50.480 kind of rears up over here, you kind of go 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.480 and handle it right, you know. And as and as 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.680 is the case when you've got fifty three men on 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.040 your team and you got a coaching staff of what, 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.920 I don't know, fifteen eighteen guys, You're going to have disagreement. 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:02.600 You're gonna have things that kind of flare up here 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.800 and there is that kind of the role that you're expecting. 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.399 I really don't know. I mean we've we've heard a 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.480 lot of things, like from a player development standpoint as well. 0:17:12.560 --> 0:17:14.159 You know that those are some of the things that 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:16.679 he's going to be doing. So and they have a 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:20.200 staff already in place that does that. So I think 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:22.200 he's gonna be working with a lot of different departments 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.920 here me reading between the every team in the league 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:28.080 has these guys like football ops guys. They schedule things, 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:30.919 they help players with off the field stuff. They you know, 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.840 he's the I feel like fixer has a negative connotation. 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:36.560 I don't mean for it too, but he's just like 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.320 he's gonna he'll handle whatever issue comes up that a 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:42.800 player might need that's not football and nick, I mean, 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.000 the Cowboys have people in place. Every team in the 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.880 league has that. Me reading between the lines, I think 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:51.080 it's just like McCarthy was like, oh, we already have 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.960 that staff. Cool, Well, I want him anyway, and I'll 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:55.720 do what I gotta do to get him here. And 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:59.600 so he's got this kind of unorthodox position, which doesn't 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.360 really matter. It's just funny to meet. McCarthy's like, that's 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:04.800 great that these guys are here, and that's awesome and 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:06.640 they can help us too, But I'm bringing my guy 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:08.320 in like that's how I read it. One of the 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.320 things he said to me that I thought stood out 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.280 was he said, this isn't gonna be part of my 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.400 job make sure guys are held accountable. Which it's great. 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:20.000 That's great something theybody who is who's primarily responsible for 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.440 making sure that people are being held accountable to whatever 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:26.320 it is that they're supposed to be doing. I think 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.640 that's a great role to have on a football team. Again, 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.359 of that MANI players that many coaches. It's good to 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.360 have somebody just overall looking at accountability across the entire 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:37.000 you know, Mike McCarthy said something a couple of weeks ago. 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.639 But it's all about the locker room. The locker rooms. 0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:42.439 The important part here is is how these players and 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.200 how they handle things. And here's a quote from from 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:50.040 Rob Davis that Johnny Opping wrote on our site. The 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.520 quote from Rob says, the NFL can provide a lot 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.000 of distractions for these young men coming into the league. 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.719 Most of us come from humble beginnings, middle class all 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.520 the way down to poverty, and sometimes this be pretty 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:03.080 big for us when we walk into the NFL. So 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.439 he says, they're gonna do the XS and os. I 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:07.760 hope to provide assistance with both xs and os, but 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:11.280 more importantly in the life and development of the whole player. 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.160 That's awesome. So that's I don't know if that's vague 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:16.639 or not. We're still trying to figure out, you know, 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:20.320 what it means. But I mean it's good. I mean, 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:22.040 and just talking to him. You've talked to him, and 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:23.840 I've talked to him. I mean, it seems like a 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:27.320