WEBVTT - Talkin_6_03.mp3 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:03.840 The following. 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:05.840 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:07.360 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:10.520 Well Cowboys. 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:17.040 This he's Talking Cowboys, springing live. 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:22.400 From the Dallas Cowboys World hears at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:28.920 Six seconds dot kitson, pat touchdown and now your hosts 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:35.560 Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:42.040 It's a June edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by Black 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:45.800 Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco, Texas 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.199 and the s WBC studios. 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:50.199 Welcome and everybody. We've got Patrick No C. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:54.200 Walker, We've got Josh Rodriguez, We've got Tommy Yarish with 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:57.280 Chris Beam in the beck. I'm Kyle Yeoman. So glad 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.360 you've joined us. We have flipped the calendar to June. 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:05.520 We are one month closer to football. We are right 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:09.360 around the corner now. Of course, OTA's continue this week. 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.880 We've got access to practice starting this afternoon and so 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.840 we'll get to talk to coach Schottenheimer shortly, get to 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.440 talk to the players in the in the locker room, 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:20.480 much like we did all of last week as well. 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.760 Media days are this week and that's a big thing 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.440 around here. So it's kept all of us busy over 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:28.720 the last couple of days, but getting some FaceTime with 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:30.840 some of these players, getting to really know and feel 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.240 that culture that Brian Schottenheimer continues to try and build here. 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.360 And then next week it is mini camp time. 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.360 Indy caa't we're only ninety some odd days. 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:44.880 Away from edatory too. It's mandatory minatory. That's a big word. 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:47.039 It's a big, big word around here. 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:51.600 Many annually it's a big word around these parts. 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.200 It's see can you spell it? 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:56.440 Like the Frisco, Texas or the Allen, Texas native that 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:57.880 won the National Spelling Bede the. 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.440 Other day, No shouts to that person. 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:05.720 Yeah, you guys areticipating in the spelling I did once. 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:10.959 I didn't win it, shocker, but I did actually participate. 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:12.720 In What word did you stumble on? I don't remember 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:14.119 what was the best word. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:14.320 That you got. 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:16.400 I don't remember indubitably spell it. 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:19.640 That's it. I tripped up on that one. I know 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:20.200 exactly what. 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.800 I wasn't the spelling bee annually from like grade school 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.720 all the way up to ninth grade, and I would 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.240 routinely make district and stayed a couple of times back 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:29.680 in Georgia. 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:33.800 But the thing, the word that really states finalist Patrick 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:39.280 it is. That's why he's got to say what it is. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:44.600 Words are me and I am words. So to this 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:46.600 day I can spell it in my in my sleep 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.639 because that was where that got me eliminated. 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:49.520 No, we're not doing that right now. 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:53.000 Spell it why O N O. 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:56.400 It's the last part that'll throw you after A. Yeah, 0:02:56.440 --> 0:03:00.280 I would have O N O M A T O 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:05.239 P O. That's what the yeah the yeah. 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.040 So I was like pe and they were like they're like, 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:09.400 get out of here. Would you do this to a 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:13.680 sixth graderic? Did you throw out of the sixth grader 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.200 in front of everybody, all of their loved ones. 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.120 That's traumatic. Hey, you're a professional writer, now made it 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:19.880 worked out? 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.240 Haha, jokes on you unqualifying. 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.600 I feel like Tommy would have won like every spelling 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:25.880 severly not. 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:27.480 No, I didn't participate in. 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.240 Yeah, Texas education, then give you any opportunity that is. 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:34.200 No, I'm nowhere. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:37.520 I'm nowhere near smart enough to participate in the spelling 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.560 be yeah me neither. I use auto correct is the 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:44.240 greatest invention that ever happened to technology, just because there 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.440 are so many Like even to this day, there are 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.800 simple words that I like just misspelled from time to time, 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.520 and I just keep seeing it corrected and corrected. I'm 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:55.080 really making myself sound horrible here, but that's all right. 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:58.120 Yeah, yeah, no, but no. 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.600 Autocorrect is a great tool and I'm very glad it's 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.240 there because spelling spelling bees would never have been in 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:03.760 my future. 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:04.880 Yeah, it's weird, my my. 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.640 Whenever I type in my my text messages, it says 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:11.120 OT as it automatically corrects it to news and notes. 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:15.880 Patrick, would you like to give us some OT? Hey? 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:17.400 Give them give them another for that? 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:18.320 Lord. 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:24.680 Okay, so news and notes obviously no no transactions uh 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:26.719 here over the past week, past couple of weeks, since 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.400 OT has have begun. We'll see if the Cowboys continue 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:31.719 that trainer, if they make a move here as mandatory 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:33.480 mini camp gets ready to fire up, and then of 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:37.920 course they will go into their lull before training camp. 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.040 But now that it is officially June and it is 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.680 June second, some transactions should start to land around the 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:48.440 league now that it's post June first, June third, Hey, 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:49.920 there you go, but it's. 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:50.719 Still post June first. 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.640 It is post June first, technically first. 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.919 However you slice it, so some transaction should start. 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.560 Taking points off of that one like a spelling bee, 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:58.880 like a spelling. 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.360 Trigger. But no. 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.640 So for the most part, news and notes are based 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:08.000 on conversations that we've all had with players in the 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.480 locker room coming out of OTA's last week and the 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.080 week prior, as well as just observations for God that 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:14.480 we've seen on the field. I will say one of 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.200 the biggest news and notes for me kind of leads 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.200 right into a guy who's going to be leaned upon heavily. 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:20.680 A lot of odds are on him, and I'm talking 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:25.400 about Tyler Goyiton. Tyler Goyton, he sounds much more confident, 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.280 not that he didn't sound confident last year this time 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.680 last year, but as the season war on and he 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.039 really began to feel the rigors of the NFL season 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:36.960 and what that means and what that entails, and the 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.880 toll it took on his body, and he came to 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:41.279 an awakening and understood that. 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.400 He wasn't taking as great of care of his body 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.120 as he thought he was. So what does he do? 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.200 He gets with Tyler Smith, he gets with the Cowboys 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:53.000 nutritionists completely overhauls his diet, ditches fast foods and fried foods, 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:57.719 entirely switches to high protein meals. He said, lots of salmon, steak, chicken, 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:01.160 things like that. He is leaner, and I asked him 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.360 if he's looking to tweak a little bit more going 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.720 into training camp, maybe add some more muscle mass. Not 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:08.320 that he's a slim guy by any stretch of the imagination, 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.440 but you can see that some of that added unnecessary 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.440 weight has completely melted off. He said, he's moving much better. 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:18.120 He's moving his mass much more easily. His joints feel better. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:22.680 That's great news because he understands exactly what the Cowboys. 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:22.760 Need him to be. 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:26.240 Going into year two, this is a revamped offensive line. 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.719 With Zach Martin now retiring, the elder Statesman are Terrence 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.120 Steele and Tyler Smith, and Tyler Smith is going into 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:34.280 year four, So that tells you an elder statesman in 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.320 year four a lot of youth there. So the blind 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:39.960 side of Dak Prescott's going to have to be pretty solid. 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:41.680 I want to hit on Tyler guid In there because 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:43.880 that was a big storyline from this past week because 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.600 it started with Brian Schottenheimer talking about him in the 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:50.919 press conference and alluding to how good of an offseason 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.239 he's had because he was talking about all the offensive linemen. 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.240 The question it was your question, It was. 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.720 Yeah, I asked you about Booker, about Tyler Booker, and 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:59.520 he kind of on his own accord, went out of 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.960 his way to talk about Tyler Geyton. And so you 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.280 know that says something that, Okay, this guy's sticking out 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.719 of practice to the head coach. But you know, at 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:09.960 least from our perspective, and you know, I wasn't here 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:11.600 last year during training camp, but there were a couple 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:13.560 of times where I heard you guys talking about man, 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.160 this guy Stonewall, Nica Parsons, and you know, he's looking 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.200 really good, but you know, the ebbs and flows in 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.760 terms of okay, he's out these days and he's. 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.240 Not getting the snaps on certain days. 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.440 For a rookie, especially a left tackle, one of those 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.760 premium positions in football, that's valuable reps that you're missing. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.160 So now that he's healthy, Brian schodheimmer mentioned he's been 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.600 here every day for OTAs and every day for practice. 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.160 Those are reps that a young guy like him absolutely 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:36.960 needs to get better. 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:37.400 Now. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.239 It's great that he's done the work with his body, 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.440 and it's great that he's slimmed up, but some of 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.880 the issues that he had last year were cerebral and 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.640 you know, just way too many bad penalties. So I 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:53.120 appreciate him, you know, I appreciate him making the changes 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:54.880 in his body, and it's something that a lot of 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:56.800 young players have to deal with in terms of changing 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.560 their diet, getting their lifestyle right. But there's still a 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:02.640 lot that he needs to do to really take that jump. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:02.880 Now. 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.960 Cowboys offensive linemen have done that in year one to 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.760 year two. They've taken jumps forward. But Guy's got a 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:10.200 big chef to take and I think, you know, he's 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.160 going to really benefit from a coaching staff that has 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.360 prioritized the offensive line with guys like Clayton Adams and 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:15.920 Connor Riley. 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:17.680 I think we talked about that last year after he 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.080 was drafted and coming into the league, in that he 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.360 didn't necessarily have an offseason. He immediately jumped into training 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.560 and that was something that switched positions and switch positions. 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.080 So I mean, of course there's going to be growing 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.360 pains along with that, and then he had some health 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:34.240 availability issues during camp and throughout the season. I think 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.520 all of that is combined in saying that he didn't 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.000 necessarily have a break as soon as he was drafted 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.880 to the NFL. Now with a better understanding of how 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:44.800 the year is going to go for him from a 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:48.280 playing aspect, and on top of it, two, your article 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:52.439 was excellent, felt I was reading like a bodybuilder magazine article. 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:56.480 I mean, because I loved articles on like health, fitness, nutrition, 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:58.319 all of that. I mean, it doesn't look like I 0:08:58.400 --> 0:08:59.079 love it, but I do. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:04.280 I swear disagree. I also disagree, and I mean behind 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:05.880 the scenes, I know the work that you put in 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:06.440 the gym. 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:10.040 Exactly exactly so, but I love that. Oh yeah, I 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:13.760 love it. It's it's inspirational, for sure, But it also 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.079 go to the goes to show how he's maturing in 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.120 a way, like you said getting rid of like even nutrition, 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:22.480 like saying fast foods all of that. It's clear that 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.199 he's putting in the work. Obviously, now he has a 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:26.800 better understanding of how the season is going to go 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:30.120 and what the position is going to demand of him. 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.199 Well, we talked about and Tommy alluded to the year 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.000 one to year two jump. Think back to Tyler Smith. 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:39.120 Tyler Smith was a solid rookie season. He put together 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:41.720 a great rookie season, played a lot of left tackle, 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:43.880 kind of bounced around a little bit, and then once 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.600 he settled into a spot and had a full off season, 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.480 he became a Pro Bowler the year after that. I'm 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:53.439 not anticipating a Pro Bowl type season from from Tyler 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.480 Guidon actually a second team ap for Tyler Smith too. 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.760 You're not anticipating that sort of jump. But what is 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.840 the jump that's anticipated from Guidon that would ease your 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.280 mind about the offensive line, because to answer my own question, 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:11.400 it would be a considerable solidified starter at left tackle, 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:12.920 somebody that you can rely on. 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.280 Does he have to have a Pro Bowl No? Does 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.440 he have to have an All Pro No? Would both 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:18.199 of those things. 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.160 Be awesome If you can get that type of play 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:24.120 out of them, absolutely make it happen. However, I think 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:28.200 as long as he solidifies his availability one and stays 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:30.760 on the field and becomes a solidified starter to where 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:35.160 the penalties go down, the pressures go down, that's what 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:35.800 it would look like. 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.160 So for me, I agree, it looks like, you know, 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:41.839 a significant reduction in penalties and it looks like a 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:43.760 significant increase in availability. 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.200 Yes, right, so he played in eleven games. 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.520 Exactly, So stay on the field, remain healthy, do away 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:51.960 with the large majority of the penalties, and I think 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.000 that the wrist will kind of start to settle in, 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.959 because again, this is going to be the first or 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.280 the second full year, only the second full year of 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:03.199 him playing left tackle at the football level. So for me, 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:05.200 it's just those two things, and I think the rest 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.599 will settling in, especially as he gets more of that 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:09.720 combo chemistry with Tyler Smith. 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:11.320 I think that will work itself out. 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:15.679 And Tyler Smith he spoke with us as well, more 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.480 so about Booker, but he also makes some key points 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:22.600 about Tyler Geyiton's progress and how they as an offensive 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.240 unit have been kind of ingratiating themselves with each other, 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.120 whether it be cookouts or working out in the off season, 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.200 things like that. All of these things matter. These are 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.240 things that the media doesn't always see. These are the 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.480 things that fans rarely see. But it's the type of 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.120 camaraderie that builds the type of brotherhood that you saw 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:43.200 with like Travis Frederick and Zach Martin and Tyron Smith 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:46.000 and oh By the way, weren't those three first round 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.480 picks in a span of four years? Well, who are 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.400 the three now in the span of four years? Tyler Smith, 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:53.800 it's Tyler Goyton, and it's Tyler Booker. So it's a 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.880 Tyler Tyler Tyler show. So if those guys, along with 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.760 Cooper BB obviously and Terrence Steel, if they can gel 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.480 like the cowboys and Schoenheimer are looking for them too, 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.240 then Tyler Goyton will come along. 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.480 As he starts to see other guys come along, all 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.559 of a sudden, I missed Tyler. We don't even know 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:15.400 the time. There's four Tyler's on the rocks. Tyler Neville 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:16.120 shouts out the top. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:20.360 Yeah, you got Tyler Neville. You had Tyler Bottish upfront. 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.480 That would have been interesting. All four of this guys 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:23.040 on the left side. 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:26.280 Bring Steven Tyler in here, just because at that point, 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:27.440 just all tied up. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:32.360 Oh that's a good show title, a t up, all 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.800 tied up? All right? What's next? On the OTA News 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:36.440 and Notes list? 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.120 From there we talk about I know that Tommy had 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.640 a fantastic piece about OSA uh and I would defer 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:45.320 to him on that. Let him tell you what OSA 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.240 was talking about and just progressing talking about. 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:48.960 What was it talking about. 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:50.760 So I think the interesting part of what with what 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:52.880 Osa was talking about was, and I've talked about this 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.439 in the past on on the shows, is that look, 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.360 Matti Refluce in the past has said, Hey, the three 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:00.200 technique defensive tackle is the engine of his defense. Right, 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.199 that's kind of where it all starts. And so this 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.079 is a guy that the Cowboys played, that Cowboys paid 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.959 eighty million dollars over the next four years for and 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.079 you bring in a guy like Matt eberflus Is, you know, 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.040 that's a big part of his defense and a big 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.240 role that has to be played in that scheme. So 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:16.920 he said, you know, based off some of the things 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:18.679 that we're being asked to do right now, is going 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:20.719 back and just watching some of the tape from last year, 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:22.920 I'm like, if I was doing the stuff that we're 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.880 being coached to do now, I'm making this play, I'm 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.319 making that play. So just seeing that there's going to 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.199 be a lot more opportunities based on the stuff that 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:32.640 he's having us do. So, you know, that's always a 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.920 good thing, and it's it's easy to say in retrospect, 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.240 right when you go back and watch film on yourself, 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.000 you say, okay, well if I had done this and 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:40.600 I had done that. Obviously, the spur of the moment, 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.679 the heat of the moment, you do different things. But 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.240 the adjustments that need to take place so that you 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.480 can do those things in the game setting happened behind 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.640 the scenes in practice, and you know when you work 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:52.959 schematically with your coaching staff and just prepare for those 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.040 kinds of situations. So you know, matt Eberflus was what 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:57.760 he was as a head coach, but as a defensive 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:01.000 play caller, this guy's really good think and you know 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.360 he's had a good history in terms of those three 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.760 technique defensive tackles and his defenses overall have been good, 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.360 and it starts up front on the defensive line. They 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:11.439 usually stop the run pretty well, which is something that 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:14.920 Dallas has struggled to do for the last however many years. 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.280 I don't know if they've got the person hell necessarily 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.480 to be in great shape right now, but if you 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:21.560 want to be in great shape, it's got to start 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.680 with the three tech in Mattieberflus's defense, and they've got 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:24.680 a pretty good one in Osa. 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.760 Did he talk about working with Solomon Thomas at all. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:29.120 I know he was kind of a big topic on 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.960 the last episode, but I'm just curious, like what their 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.720 tandem is going to look like going into the season. 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:36.440 If they did. I don't know if I put it 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.520 in here, but he did. 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.160 I asked them specifically, how are things coming along with 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.760 bringing Solomon Thomas into what is going to be a 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.520 new culture, but also just the impact of and what 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.360 it means to have Solomon Thomas, because we talked about 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.880 it before, Osa averaged over the first three years of 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.400 his NFL career, he averaged just around sixty percent of 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.560 the defensive snaps. Okay, well because of injury and lack 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.240 of production behind him. On the depth chart last season 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:06.240 it ballooned to seventy eight percent. You're not going to 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.880 be able to get him or keep him fresh and 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.160 fourth quarters or even the second half of the season, 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.480 and we talk about availability. Knock on wood. He's been 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:16.400 healthy to this point, but how much longer does that 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.200 last if you keep him at seventy five seventy eight, 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.800 eighty percent. Solomon Thomas in that aspect alone, I believe 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:27.080 will be massive for the durability the continue durability of OLSA. 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.720 Lots multiple rights right that guy. 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:31.280 But Osa was talking about that. 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:35.040 He talked about the Cowboys adding another proven playmaker in 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:39.080 Solomon Thomas. Not necessarily just a rookie that's coming in 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.400 that has to learn how the NFL works and learn 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.880 the speed of the game. But Solomon Thomas, He's been there, 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.600 done that, been productive doing it. So when you add 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.240 that talent in rotation with Osa, Osa talked about how 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.520 excited he was with that, and I am, I'm right 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:53.640 there with him. I said that once Solomon Thomas was signed, 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.400 I was like, I love the dynamic of them rotating. 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.280 But then also you have to know that every once 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.080 in a while they will play shoulder to shoulder in 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.040 certain sense, and that's exciting as well. 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.080 When does that happen? What's the down and distance? That's 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:04.920 going to be interesting. 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.320 And the other interesting thing was Solomon Thomas too, And 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.480 I've just realized that I put this in the article. 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.640 Was you know, this is a guy who around the 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.480 league is one of the more respected people. Uh, you know, 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:16.480 when we met him, he talked a little bit about 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.280 his defensive line foundation that he works with Dak Prescott 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:23.880 with for mental health for children. And you know also 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.240 was kind of talking about that too. From a leadership standpoint, 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.680 it's like, hey, Solomon Thomas came in, Dante Fowler has 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.600 been here before, you know, DeMarcus Lawrence leaving. That leaves 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:33.880 a big leadership gap on the defensive line. So it's 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.600 up to him, Michael Parsons, Solomon Thomas and those guys 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.640 to kind of try and fill that void. And so 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.080 you know, that's another aspect of Solomon Thomas that he 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:45.040 fits from a culture perspective. Now from a scheme perspective, 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.480 he's not the biggest guy in terms of height. 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.400 I know you gave it. In terms of height, he's 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:51.000 not the tallest. 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.840 Just getting off of being viral, yeah. 0:16:53.680 --> 0:17:00.600 I know, I know we're talking with doesn't get much 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:01.040 better than that. 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:04.600 But you know, from a defensive tackle standpoint, he's a 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.560 little bit undersize from that perspective. And last week I 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.960 think Solomon talked about that as well. But you know, 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:11.480 this is a guy who's just trying to fit and 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.280 he plays nitty gritty and he's going to need to, frankly, 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.360 for this defense. I don't think he's kind of lived 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.760 up to the billing or he's what the third overall 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:20.040 pick back in twenty seventeen. 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.520 I like that you're bringing that up. Yes he was. 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:25.439 That was I kind of chuckled there a little bit 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.280 because all of it's fun and games. Right now, you're 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:28.840 hitting batting practice home runs. 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:29.240 I love it. 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:32.080 It's the off season. You're practicing. Things look great, the 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:35.040 swing's crisp. You're gonna have to hit home runs though, 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.719 when teams are trying to strike you out exactly, that's 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:41.399 what's going to happen, just exactly. Once you can hit 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.520 the curve ball, then we can We'll be fine. But 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:47.080 when Patrick was talking about Osa's comments about having a 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:51.000 proven playmaker, my devil's advocate comment would be, when has 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:54.800 he been proven? When has he done that? He's had 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.159 different flashes. I was gonna say, he's fled, but the 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.040 consistency hasn't been there. If it was there at any 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.159