1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. It's hump day. Welcome back 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast presented 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: by New Era. My name is Dan Hanss and I 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: am joined in the room filled with heroes Mark Sessler, 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosetal. What is up, boys, Hey Dan? 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Hump day YOLO. Little concern that Dan is progressing through 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: hump day by drinking Lacroix UM whatever that stuff is, 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: the soda that you're drinking, It's just not a drink. No, 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: I don't match. It does not match well with the 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: Dan hands Is persona that I well, maybe it's time 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: for everyone should evolve. We've known each other for many years. 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: Mr is evolution. And if you think I'm just gonna 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: be drinking a big old bottle of you Who for 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: the rest of my life diet coke, I'm not asking 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 1: for you Who. It was not a request for you 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: to UM to back cycle into you Who. But the 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: I it do not fit you. I think it works 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: perfectly with with a guy this concerned about his hair 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: and just loving hair products. It's like writing on the brand. 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,919 Speaker 1: I have Lacroix backstory, Lacroix, which if you're not aware 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: is a flavored soda water A little a little trendy. Yeah, 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: and it's very popular, at least in southern California. I 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: don't know if it's a national thing, but we have 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: to today's our video show, and you could check it out, uh, 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: starting on Thursday at I don't know, nine am Eastern eastern, 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: nine am Pacific on Thursday. Uh, you can check it out. 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: But we we do like fancy boys. We go, we 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: get makeup um for the video show, and uh Daddy 29 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: likes to pop down the hallway after the makeup and 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: go into the little talent area holding room where Daddy 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: gets free stuff. Um. Sometimes I get a lollipop. Uh, 32 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: and sometimes I open the fridge and they have bottled 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: water and gatorade and now for the first time ever, 34 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: it's fully stocked with Lacroix. So today is a success 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: and at a high level. Not buying a word of 36 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: of it at all, but I will allow you to 37 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,639 Speaker 1: that's your story. You can live with that story, especially 38 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: calling yourself Daddy in a room full of matt We're 39 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: not your yellow Uh. Big show today A trade involving 40 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: my beloved New York Football Jets. Also Aaron Rodgers doing 41 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: some business with the Packers. Long awaited on that front. 42 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: And then, of course, oh my goodness, it's that time. Uh. 43 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: Every year it's a tradition, we um pick a team 44 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: of around the NFL. And coming up later today the 45 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: vitally important part of the first step of the process, 46 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 1: nominations for a team of around the NFL who will 47 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: succeed the Los Angeles Rams. Uh in as the team 48 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 1: that we all support as the podcast, we adopt them 49 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: as a podcast we all nominate. Couldn't be back to 50 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: back ran this action. We don't know, Greg Well, I 51 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: I like that idea, but I already know that that's 52 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: a non starter, so that will never be brought up. 53 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if no one wants the Rams again, 54 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: no the Rams, I thought we would do it again. 55 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I've joined the process and it still 56 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: has to be completed. So I'm rooting for them this year. 57 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna be rooting for like five teams, so 58 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 1: I'm happy to get another one in the mix. There 59 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: you go, And uh, one bit of housekeeping before we 60 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: get to the news. Uh. As you may be aware, 61 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure you are if you're a regular listener, of 62 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: the show. We are heading to London, UH for ten 63 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: days starting on Saturday. Can you believe it? UH? And 64 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: one of the events were doing a bunch of stuff 65 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: over there. We're all excited UH to do it. But 66 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: one of the events that personally I'm the most excited 67 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: for is doing a live show from London. And we 68 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: now have information information Erica tam Posey the loose cannon 69 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: behind the glass. It will be held at what is 70 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: the name of this place, The Curtain Club, The Curtain 71 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: Club in short UH, in shortage, that's UH on Curtain 72 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: Road on Tuesday. The show begins at seven o'clock. Keep 73 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: an eye out from our respective Twitter handles. UH today 74 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: Wednesday will send out a link to get tickets. Limited tickets. 75 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: This is not gonna be This isn't Wembley Stadium. There's 76 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: only an X amount of tickets available, UH to enjoy 77 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: a live show with the heroes, A special live show. 78 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: By the way, We're gonna make our go get my lunch. 79 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: Predictions will be a lot of fun. We'll meet a 80 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: bunch of people, hang out, probably have some beers after. 81 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: That's what we do around here. So UH, next Tuesday, 82 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: live show in London at the Curtain Club supplies. We've 83 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: been waiting for this for you, this one it's all about. 84 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we're we'll also have the Piccadilly event on Saturday, 85 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: which can house as many people as want to show up. 86 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: And I think there's gonna be some sort of Q 87 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: and A after and I think we'll also probably have 88 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: some sort of meat up during the week. Maybe it'll 89 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: just be after this life. But we are getting, you know, 90 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: there's there's more, there's more to come. Yeah, and we 91 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: are getting and I we see the tweets of you know, 92 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: hey guys, where are you gonna be at this hour 93 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: and that hour? And when can we have you come 94 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: over to our house and have like a roast beeef dinner. 95 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,799 Speaker 1: It's like, here's the thing. We we are still learning 96 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: about our schedule um in small increments. I'm just saying, 97 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of very nice, very nice, very nice invitations, 98 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: but we simply cannot. We don't want to put out 99 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: bad information, so we're not putting out really any because 100 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: we don't have any other good local cuisine to really 101 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: I used to live in England and I will never 102 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: forget I would go over to my friend's house up 103 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: the street, and his his parents would sit down to 104 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: these massive British dinners. And I did, four or five 105 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: six years old. I couldn't identify a single thing that 106 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: I saw on the on any of the plates was 107 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: not the food that I ate in my house. It 108 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: was not so alright, So Mark returns to his homeland. 109 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: That is the the subplot that should not be overlooked. 110 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: Here Mark returns home. Let's do some news horlack like 111 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: I had letters here just from everybody out there, and 112 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: pay r E l a X an original Chris Westling composition. 113 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: Can you believe it? Great? Great musician list. People don't 114 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: know that about electronic house musician. Just pop some molly 115 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: in and listen to a little A rod relaxed. I'm 116 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: doing things in the studio you guys don't even know about, 117 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: like the Beatles and nineteen sixty eight, just fearless like 118 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 1: Steve Ioki and um. All right, we'll get Aaron Rodgers 119 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: in a second. But let's start with a big trade 120 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: that went down about an hour before we came upstairs. 121 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater a New York jet for a brief time 122 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: about you know, five months or so. But in that time, 123 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: he Um built up his value by playing very well 124 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: in the preseason, by what looking healthy in practice and 125 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: UH and the Jets pulled the trigger on a trade 126 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: to the New Orleans Saints team that UH before today 127 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: didn't really have a clear path forward post Drew Brees, 128 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: and now they do. A The terms are the Jets 129 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: send UH, Bridgewater and a fifth round pick I believe 130 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: sixth round pick UH to the Saints in exchange for 131 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: a third round pick. Chris Westling, you wrote about this 132 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: on NFL dot com your reaction to the trade. I 133 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: think if you were sitting in Mike mccagney's shoes or 134 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: standing in his shoes in January or February, this is 135 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: the best case scenario for all of your plans. You 136 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: Sam Donald falls the number three, you draft him, he 137 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: plays well enough that you are comfortable starting him in 138 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: Week one, and Teddy Bridgewater plays so well that instead 139 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: of giving getting like a conditional seventh rounder for him, 140 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: you get a third round pick for a guy that 141 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: you were gonna have to pay six million dollars in 142 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: the coming week just to put him on your roster. 143 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: So to me, whatever mc mcconon whatever, mcagnet's expectations were 144 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: I think he had to have exceeded them, and it 145 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: gets him a pick back. He gave up three second 146 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: round picks plus the first round pick just to move 147 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: up for Donald, so they're gonna be short on young 148 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: players coming up. It helps them out and it's an 149 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: all in move for the Saints who are trying to 150 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: win this year. And as much as I'm hopeful that 151 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater is maybe the next quarterback of the future 152 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: in New Orleans, it's really complicated for that to actually happen. 153 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: Drew Brees on the cap next year for thirty three 154 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: million dollars, Drue Teddy Bridgewater is a free age it 155 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: next year who may have some value, so it very 156 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: well could be a one and done situation. It's just complicated. 157 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: It reminds me a lot of the Jimmy g situation. There. 158 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: There's obvious differences, but there's an established quarterback. How is 159 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: he gonna handle it? Will Teddy want to sign a 160 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: long term contract extension now that sets him up to 161 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: be the quarterback of the future. Maybe everyone can all 162 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: agree and it works out. But it's a little comment. 163 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think right now though, it's very much 164 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: about this season. The Saints and Sean Payton and Drew 165 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: Brees have a Super Bowl window and those things shut quickly, 166 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: and you this is what it is, the anti Jerry 167 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: Jones handling of the backup quarterback situation before Dak Prescott 168 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: showed up, where the minute Tony Romo gets down, you 169 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: have an absolute no name or coming in and the 170 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: season is toast. Now you've got someone it would have 171 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: been Tom Savage. Your season is over. If Tom Savage 172 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: has to step in and play three or four games 173 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: for some reason, now you cannot lose those games in 174 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: that division. The one thing I'd say about Teddy Bridgewater, though, 175 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: it shows you when you when you net one of 176 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: these devastating injuries. It is possible that he travels through 177 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: three seasons with two pass attempts instead of being able 178 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: to go somewhere this year and showcase yourself in a 179 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: bad quarterback team where you get to play eight or 180 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: nine starts, really impressed and go out and make a 181 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: lot more money next offseason. It's another year where we 182 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: may not see him at all, and there are so 183 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: there are still there's a level of assumption that Teddy 184 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: Bridgewater is now fine, which we have not seen him 185 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: on the field a lot. He's played a little bit 186 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: of preseason here, a little preseason there, A very brief 187 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: cameo at the end of last year. Now the knee 188 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: is okay now And if you read Ian O'Connor if 189 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: for ESPN wrote a really good piece, uh, digging into 190 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: the specifics of that knee injury, which you know he 191 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: came close to losing his leg if there would have 192 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: been nerve damage. It was that blown up. It was 193 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: described as a war injury. That's how bad it looked. Um, 194 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: so will that knee because we talked about Sam Bradford 195 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: all the time. Can his knee hold up over a 196 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: full season. We don't know if Teddy Bridgewater really still 197 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: can do that, but there were they. I think it's 198 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: a worthy gamble by the Saints because he has shown 199 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: enough and he's so well respected West in league circles. Absolutely, 200 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: and I think Greg's right that it's complicated, but it 201 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: gives the Saints options. Drew Brees will be forty years 202 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: old in January, and as we've seen with just about 203 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: every fourty year quarterback except Tom Brady, when the end comes, 204 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: it comes fast. You're not prepared for it. You're not 205 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: ready for Peyton Manning to all of a sudden not 206 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: be able to throw anymore, or Brett forve to just 207 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: fall apart. And if Drew Brees falls apart, there's always 208 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: the franchise tag with Bridgewater. And let's not remember how 209 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: Drew nut Let's please remember how about that I'm gonna 210 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: say Otherwise, just forget what I'm about to say. But 211 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: let's say you know, it was Sean Payton who took 212 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: a chance essentially on Drew Brees when the Dolphins passed 213 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: on Drew Brees because of knee issues and stuff for 214 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: Dante Culpepper. And that's set that franchise back a decade plus. 215 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: And now you've got Teddy Bridgewater potentially as a final 216 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: salvo for Sean Payton if he's not there that much longer. 217 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: We don't know. Faul connect the dots and turn terms 218 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: of uh connections in the league, Bill Parcels and Teddy 219 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: Bridge order have an extremely close relationship. Bill Parcels and 220 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: Sean Payton also have the deep connection. Jeff Ireland, who's 221 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: the one, it seems to be the general manager there 222 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. It's it's I wonder how Drew Brees 223 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: is taking the news. Well, it Mickey takes some fire. 224 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: People are given Jeff Ireland, Mickey look like they are 225 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: feeling themselves right now because they gave up an their 226 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: first round pick to go get Marcus Davenport next year, 227 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: So they don't have a first round pick. They don't 228 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: have a third round pick now because of this Bridgewater trade, 229 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: and it does give them options and I think it's 230 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: worth it to possibly get a young quarterback. Uh, but 231 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: it's complicated. I mean, Drew Brees just resigned a massive 232 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: contract with the Saints. He is signed through next year, 233 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: and it's kind of hard for me to imagine Breeze 234 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: and Bridgewater on that team together next year. Might be 235 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: one or the other. Hey, I love to see a 236 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: team going for it. Thank you, thank you for going 237 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: to go get a Super Bowl. Um. Also, Tom Savage, 238 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: we know about Tom Savage gone makes them better, better 239 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: on special teams. I think Taysom Hill was going to 240 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: be their backup quarterback. He had probably earned that uh 241 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: in the third preseason week. And just because Tom Savage 242 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: doesn't look great, but he's one of their best special 243 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: teams players. Pretty fascinating and now now he's back to 244 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: the third quarterback and can place best a better Joe Webb. Yeah, 245 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: and that's what you want to be. And Greg you 246 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: mentioned it's complicated. Also harkening back to here old my 247 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: Space days, you always had that right and right under 248 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal relationship status. It's complicated. Never had of my 249 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: Space page, did you, guys? I will say that I 250 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: after I went on my first time I ever met Simone, 251 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: who I now married to. We we before we went 252 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: on our first day. We communicated for three months exclusively 253 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: on my Space. My first interaction with my wife also 254 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: my Space. I also communicated with your wife on my Space. 255 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: But I was like, you know what we have Dan, 256 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: a little real estate here? Oh dare you sir? And 257 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: we have Teddy Bridgewater now out of the picture in 258 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: Floren Park. Uh, the path is clear for Sam Donald, 259 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: which takes us to our oh my god, our preseason 260 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: spotlight presented by new Era. UH. The decision is made. 261 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: You will not see Sam Donald playing UH in the 262 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: fourth preseason game because he'll be playing Week one against 263 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: the Lions. So the Jets move forward with the third 264 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: overall pick and congratulations Mark Sessler because you got yourself 265 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: two sandwiches, son of my boy Greg Wedwich and West 266 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: West and I yeah, this was not cornhole. This was 267 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: a a wager involving a rookie quarterback. And it's just 268 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: another reminder that these teams want to get the kid 269 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: in fast. And what's going on with the Browns? Your 270 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: brownies marking Baker Mayfield is very unusual in the modern day. 271 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: What do we think about Donald My? My one concern 272 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: there I have to say as a Jets fan is 273 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: they play three games in eleven days to start their season. 274 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: He's twenty one, He's the youngest quarterback in the league. Uh, 275 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: he wasn't lights out in the preseason. He showed moments. 276 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: Is he ready for the moment? Well, it's it's coming. 277 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: Whether he's ready or not. His next level, Uh, ability 278 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: to adjust the defenses is what's impressed a lot of 279 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: like the player analysts like Dan Orlovsky or some other 280 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: ex quarterbacks that have watched, kind of how mature he's been, 281 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: which is really against almost his scouting report coming in 282 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: mentally coming into the league. And if that's the case, 283 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: then then he's gonna learn the most by playing and 284 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: what do you what what? What are you gonna do? 285 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: I think that to create the I I think essentially 286 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: this is what they wanted, and they wanted to see 287 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: him go out, and essentially I think he earned it. 288 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: So that's why it's not like they're backing into this. 289 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: The only thing that's tricky on a as when you're 290 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: on a bad team, potentially like the Jets, is that 291 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: if he really runs into rough waters and you have 292 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: to take you behind the scenes releas, you gotta arrest 293 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: him or something, he needs a break to get him 294 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: out of this, out of the fray, and you put 295 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: the count in for a game or two, that's hard 296 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: to repair. I think, Greg, you made the point with 297 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: Mayfield a week or so ago that you'd rather put 298 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: the rookie in if you're gonna make any changes later 299 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: in the game when the first guy fails. But that said, 300 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: this could be a cult situation where they just let 301 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: him go wire to wire and if he stays healthy, 302 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna learn a ton. That's how they're looking at it. 303 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: And the Jets, Yeah, I don't think they're gonna be 304 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: a very good team this year. They have a bad 305 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: offensive line. Uh, they have no pass rushers. The special 306 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: teams is a total mess, which I don't think teams 307 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: people don't take that into account enough when figure out 308 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: how team is gonna be, then it haunts you all year. Yeah, 309 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: uh and uh, we'll see, but I think ultimately it's 310 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: the right. The line in Jeremy Bates slash Todd Bowles 311 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: slash whatever the Jets have been trying to do on 312 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: offense is what worries me because I think Darnald is 313 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: shown that he can get it done. That is the 314 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: preseason spotlight presented by new era. Moving on, Yes, Aaron 315 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: Rodgers and the Packers finally did business. The two sides 316 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: agreed to terms on a four year, one hundred and 317 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: thirty four million dollar contract extension. Rap sheet and James 318 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: Jones of NFL Network reported Rogers also receives a record 319 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: fifty seven and a half million signing bonus and will 320 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: earn more than eighty million by March alone. Uh. Rogers 321 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: had previously signed a five year, a hundred and ten 322 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: million extension of two thousand thirteen. He's obviously the highest 323 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: paid player in football now and after Marcus season, the 324 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: off season where it was like Jimmy Garoppolo, and then uh, 325 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: Joe Blow, who's not a bad quarterback on kirk Cousin, 326 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: that Ryan kirk Cousins. Everyone's passing the hot potato. I'm 327 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: the highest paid guy now, the guy that always should 328 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: be the highest paid is the highest paid. I kind 329 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: of like that for something. It actually makes me feel comfortable. Yeah, 330 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's uh done to earn this, 331 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: but I can live with the contract now. I think 332 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: he's Listen, this is a lot of this back pay 333 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: for the amount of money he should have made a 334 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: long time ago. It's to me it sort of stands 335 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: out as the anti Joe Flacco deal, where the minute 336 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: Flaccos signed that post Super Bowl extension, everyone was going 337 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: absolutely nuts, how can you possibly pay Joe Flacco this 338 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: kind of money? And then you realize every quarterback is 339 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: gonna get paid. This is the guy that probably should 340 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: have had like five contract revisions since then. He's been underpaid. 341 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: No matter what he's been paid his whole career, it's 342 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: always been underpaid. And so get closer to paying these 343 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: guys what they what they deserve. Sixty seven million before 344 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: the end of the calendar year by next March, so 345 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: that's I don't care about your guarantees, and you could 346 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: be guarantees and your maybe guarantees or whatever. Sixty seven 347 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: million by the time the calendar flips, two fifty seven 348 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: and a half million to sign. So I made me 349 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: think of that hard Knock scene when everyone asked, like 350 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: what went into Baker Mayfield's bank account that that week? 351 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: Like what did it? Just say? So, if you're getting 352 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,479 Speaker 1: the fifty seven and a half million dollar signing bonus, 353 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: you figure Uncle Sam takes out half of that. Guy, 354 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: I would guess that's a solid Like that's a slide 355 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: million just on Friday shows. Uncle Sam could repay every road, 356 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: every road in that state with what they're taking out 357 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: of his contracts. So please do my property, uncle Sam. 358 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: I earned it. That's not how this works. Johnny government 359 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: a touching my money cut to me in jail. It 360 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: wasn't long ago that Stafford was the highest paid player 361 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and now he's the third highest paid 362 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: quarterback in his own division. Yeah, he had the highest 363 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: signing bonus. It does show Kirk Cousins contract kind of 364 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: changed the game a little bit for quarterbacks. It really 365 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: did make their contracts more fully guaranteed at the top, 366 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: and they're all going to be like that. Moving forward. Uh, 367 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 1: moving on. On Tuesday night's edition of Hard Knocks, we 368 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: saw Michael Kendricks, the former Eagles linebacker now with the Browns, 369 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: give a very honest scouting report of some Eagles players 370 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: during a defensive team meeting. I woke up this morning 371 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: and the first thing I saw on the left hand 372 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: side of my little Twitter account was that Michael Kendricks 373 00:19:58,160 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: was trending, and I was like thinking to myself, Oh, 374 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks recap. I should have led with Michael Kendricks. 375 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: This is obviously a huge story, but no. Unfortunately for 376 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: Mr Kendricks, he's been charged with insider training trading UH. 377 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: The U S Attorney's Office of the Eastern District of 378 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania announced that Wednesday morning, Kendricks, along with a co defendant, 379 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: were charged with one count of conspiracy to commit securities 380 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: fraud and one count of securities fraud per U S 381 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: Attorney William mc swain, a close from with Mark Sessler's. 382 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: Kendrick released a statement on how You answered to that 383 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: UH on Instagram, apologizing for something that he said happened 384 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 1: I think four years ago. But I'll tell you what. 385 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: Speaking of Uncle Sam, let's say I don't like this. 386 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: I think this is how they got Martha Stu. Yeah, 387 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: that's got got and a big house, uh knitting uh 388 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: in herself for a couple of years. Not a good 389 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: sign from Mr Kendricks. And I'm sure the Browns are 390 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: probably looking at roster replacement. I don't know, probably well 391 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: when this happened in our news room, like everyone was 392 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: trying because suddenly it's like do I work for Forbes 393 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: dot com? I have no idea what to do with 394 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: this story, and like our desk, our desk road it up, 395 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: but no one knew what the ramifications were. And you 396 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: know that basically it looks like, according to some articles, 397 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: that you could face a maximum of five million dollar 398 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: and five and finds that's the lightest thing potentially that 399 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: could happen, or up to twenty five million if it's 400 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: a business, which he isn't, or twenty years in prison. 401 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: In so this is a murky swamp that Mr Inside 402 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: Trader has walked into. Here. You that's nothing that's created 403 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: that not a crime you want to commit. Just as 404 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: a bit of advice, let's calm down US government I 405 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: mean twenty years, guys skimming the books a little bit. 406 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: If we're lighter, everyone moved among us hasn't done like 407 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: a little insider trading. It's like you get a little information, 408 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: you just dumped that stuff. What like a high school 409 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: buddy who went on to Harvard and tried to clue 410 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: him into a few things. And he tried to him 411 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: and he probably should. I wonder what the code of 412 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: the other guy is, um the cars No, Yeah, but 413 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: when you hear insider training from the Browns, you expect 414 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: it to be Carl. But the code defendant is a 415 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: writer for the show Blackish. Yeah. So it's a it's 416 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: a quite a bizarre stew what a dregor So dis 417 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: blame the r Ivy League guy. Yeah. Uh. In other news, 418 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals did business legal business, UH, signing two 419 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: time All Pro defensive tackle Geno Atkins and two time 420 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl defensive end Carl's Dunlop two separate extensions on Tuesday. 421 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: Atkins agreed four years through two, UH and UH Dunlop 422 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:53,479 Speaker 1: let get UH forty three years, forty five million through one. 423 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: So this is a very very good greg uh Cincinnati 424 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: defensive line and they are due and work to keep 425 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: him in house. How about a little love for Mike Brown. 426 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: You know people talk about him that kind of a 427 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: cheap oh or like can't you know run the organization right? 428 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: And he's keeping two guys throughout their whole career that 429 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: have been great Bengals and Gino Atkins, especially as a 430 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: guy who knows we might be talking about as a 431 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: potential Hall of Famer someday. And they they've taking care 432 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,199 Speaker 1: of business, kept him there the whole time. There is 433 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: a salary floor in the NFL in large part because 434 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: of Mike Brown. Yeah, I mean, I'll give this guy 435 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: like Geno Atkins has not missed a game since Dunlop, 436 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: not since two thousand twelve. They've been durable and they've 437 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: been there every single game. And Dunlap was one of 438 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: those one of the dudes that was on that trip 439 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: I went on. And I'll say one thing about him, 440 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: compared to almost any player I've ever like seeing at all, 441 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: It's like the dude is so into his diet. He 442 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: is he refused like opportunities to drink essentially throughout the trip, 443 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: every morning working out insanely like he he was just 444 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: racking him since like he's very into going into the 445 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: season and his best possible version of himself. So I 446 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: he a little bit of that, A little bit of 447 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: that you can't say anywhere. I have already, I have 448 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: already described supposed to you about this, how this works. 449 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: I banded, I can use it, And it's now you've 450 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: been using it more likely. I didn't make anything. It's 451 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: now it's more in my it's in my mind because 452 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: now it seems like it's something it's not something you hate. 453 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: And if you missed Fridays show, Mark banned the phrase 454 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: society had a band by Mark that you living your 455 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: best life and now you're using it. I actually did 456 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: not just say it. A second game you said something 457 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: kind of like that as well. Well, I mean, please 458 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 1: there there there's a many, so many words that are 459 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 1: available to us. I also sometimes allow people to use it. 460 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: I allowed Erica to use it in an Instagram post 461 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: after she went on a giant Galpal trip to Big 462 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: Pank You, Erica, did you clear it with Mark? Yeah? 463 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, do you mind if I I 464 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: was like, it's cool in this situation. It feels organic. 465 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: Here a monster Mark, how about Dunlop and Atkins both 466 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: from the same draft class two thousand ten Mangles draft class, 467 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: and they draft a J. Green in Dalton, and they've 468 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: gotten better as they've Atkins was pretty great right away, 469 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: although take him at Dunlap has gotten better and better 470 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: as his careers go on. So you gotta give a 471 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: little credit of the coaches too. Uh. In the Eagles 472 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: nest Is, ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that Alshon Jeffrey, their 473 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: star wide receiver, will miss quote at least the first 474 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: two games of the season as it recovers from offseason 475 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: shoulder surgery. He's expected to be activated off the team's 476 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: publist this weekend. Uh. And that's notable because if they 477 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: kept him on the publist, that would mean he would 478 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: miss six games of the regular season. So they think 479 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: this is a situation obviously that he'll return before then, 480 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: maybe as soon as Week three. And just like with 481 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: the Carson Wentz situation west Uh, the Eagles, in defending 482 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: their championship, are smart to play the long game with 483 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: one of their most important players. Sure they are. If 484 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: you're an opponent, you hit the lottery if you play 485 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: the Eagles in September because nobody knows if Carson Wentz 486 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: is gonna be ready, Nobody knows if Nick Foles is 487 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: gonna play well. Alshon Jeffrey won't be out there. They've 488 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: got a lot of guys coming back from injuries. They've 489 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: got Nigel, Nigel Bradam their best linebackers suspended week one, 490 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks another linebacker coming back from achilles. This is it. 491 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: This is a banged up team right now, so you 492 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: want to get them earlier. Algil Art, Nelson Agilar hasn't 493 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: practiced much. Mike Wallace, who I think is an upgrade, 494 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: hasn't really done anything in the in the preseason. So 495 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: you're looking at like maybe Shelton Gibson is is a 496 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: big factor. Uh week one, you know you're Dallas Godder 497 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: the backup tight end. They're losing their missing Timmy Joern 498 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: again for about half the year, so you're right, they've 499 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: got some issues. Yeah, I mean they talked about that. 500 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: Goddard and zach Ertz are going to be used in 501 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: two tight end sets probably very um, you know, a lot. 502 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: And they have the Falcons obviously in the kickoff, then 503 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: they have the Bucks, then the Colts Bucks and Colts not. 504 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: I think the Bucks might be a little bit better 505 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: than people think they got. Ryan Fitzpatrick though in the cults, 506 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: it's just that that's not the worst schedule for them 507 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: to try to get through this, but they've got to 508 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: get over their own issues. I liked speaking at Kendricks. 509 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: One of his scouting reports was of tight end zach 510 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: ertz Uh. He said, you know, six, the best receiver 511 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 1: on the team, but he's not somebody that loves the 512 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: blocking side of being a tight end. And I like this. 513 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: I like different like football parlance. I enjoy that Uh. 514 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: He doesn't want any smoke, just like that, And everyone 515 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: in the room knew what he was saying. So it 516 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: is a shared dictionary that they use. Absolutely fine. That 517 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: can be used well outside of football, just life in general. 518 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: Like you don't want your kitchen to be smoky, Like 519 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: if something were burning, and like there's it's all around 520 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: the room, you wouldn't be ye. Also like it kind 521 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: of is a replacement for getting your hands dirty. You 522 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 1: know what that smoke? M why's it gonna be changing 523 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: diapers soon enough? You don't want that smoke? It is, 524 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: It's bad. It's annoying that I have five younger brothers. 525 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: I change diapers for many years. I'm looking forward to 526 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: our our next edition of like white guys talk about 527 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: the modern lexicon a few months after the fact, he 528 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: doesn't want any smoke. Uh. Finally, in the news, the 529 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: Packers trade oh trade alert involving a quarterback. Another one 530 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: nice way to book end the news Packers trading quarterback 531 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: Brett Hunley to the Seahawks. Tom Pellicero reports our own 532 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: Tom Pallisero. Uh. The conversation from rap Sheet. A two thousand, 533 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: nineteen sixth round draft pick. Hunley, who flopped in his 534 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: audition last year to be Aaron Rodgers backup, now gets 535 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: a chance to back up Russell Wilson and Mark Sessler. 536 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: The man who flopped in his audition to be the 537 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: Browns franchise quarterback last year, Deshaun Kaiser, has himself steady 538 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: work as Aaron Rodgers new backup. I mean, I guess 539 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: you could say the writing was on the wall when 540 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: they traded for Kaiser, But okay, um, I just for me, 541 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: I I don't know how I'd like to see behind 542 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: phund closed doors what they fell forward the Shaun Kaiser 543 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: because one thing about him last year was a turnover machine. 544 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: There's a lot to like that. He's an absolute turnover machine. 545 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: How is that a huge upgrade over over Hunley to 546 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: Huntley was also? I think that I think that neither 547 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: the answer. That's what I'd say. Kaiser got banged last year. 548 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, okay, but I'm not going to 549 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: suddenly like view him as the one of the steadier 550 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: backups in the league. I'm not. I just haven't seen that. 551 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: We haven't seen that. I just thought I'm saying maybe 552 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: we shouldn't write them off because last year was a 553 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: sinkhole in Cleveland, you know what I mean? Project watch 554 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: out for Alex Magoo in Seattle, by the way, try 555 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,959 Speaker 1: keeping him down. He's a deep I think he's got 556 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: to make the team now. Well, if he doesn't, then 557 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: my comment will go by the wayside. There's some buzz 558 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: circling back to Hard Knocks Mark that um Devin could Juice, 559 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: who's like the fuel good story of this season of 560 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: the tight End, might be pushing Seth Devolved your boy 561 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: for a roster spot. Your take on that, well, I mean, 562 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: Seth Develove has been so involved in um sort of 563 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: secret community work in terms of stopping crimes. We've gone 564 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: over this in the past that maybe has taken the 565 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: eye off the ball on the football sold a little. 566 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: You've got to keep that day job intact to hide 567 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: who you really are, and could juice is working with 568 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: We were like magic crystals and stones. So there's a 569 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: lot happening, a lot to track there. That's what's happening 570 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: in the news. Uh, let's do some housekeeping here. Uh. 571 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: The weight is nearly over. Football is almost here, which 572 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: means it's fantasy football season and fan duel has never 573 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: been more fun or easy to play. 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There's a new Reddit threat devoted strictly 583 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: to Greg's and read really, what's it called? What a 584 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: Greg call that? I think it's called in support of 585 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: Greg's and read. Really, by the way, that person is 586 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: not your report? Are all four of them? I was 587 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: fine with your ad read, but my boss said that 588 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: you did a port but you just called your boss 589 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: your direct report, which would make report. Yes, she is 590 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: in reverse. You are really getting their money's worth of 591 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: this one. Uh. Here's how it works. 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That should make it 619 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: easy to tackle any auto or do it yourself project 620 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: on your list. Plus, they came in a gun metal 621 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: chrome finish that's not only sharp looking, should have had 622 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: a hype in there. Please copy. It makes them corrosion 623 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: resistance cool, right, guys. Now, this is called off. This 624 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: is called called to Action. Section Shop the new home 625 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: of Craftsman today at lows dot com. Backslash around that's 626 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: Lows dot Com. Backslash around. Very nice. All right, let's 627 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: move on now and get to it. It is time. Oh, 628 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: it's that time of year. Let's fly loose cannon. Right. 629 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: This is a special honor there. It is Dick Banks, 630 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: the one man house fan on loan from the Dave 631 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: dama Check Football Program, the team of around the NFL. 632 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 1: Every year we pick one team that we get behind 633 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 1: as a group. They become our collective team. And that's 634 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: that's good because this is a podcast that houses a 635 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: Patriots fan, a Jets fan, a Brown fan, and a 636 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: former Bengals fan recovering but recovering Bengals fan who is 637 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: views himself as something of a free agent, if you 638 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: will us, Yeah, an agnostic, a free agent, a searcher, 639 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: and and uh, a man that carries stones and crystals. No, 640 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: I don't get into conduced stones and crystals. That's a little. 641 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: That's a lot of um. So let's let's go over 642 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: before we get into the nomination process. Uh. And remember 643 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: we each nominated team, and for a team to be 644 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: the team around the NFL, it has to be unanimous. 645 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: All four of us must agree that that is the team. UM. 646 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: Two thousand seventeen, The Los Angeles Rams, we got on board. 647 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: There were some positive buzz around the Rams entering the season, 648 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: but I think we still kind of got in there 649 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: on the ground floor before they had their final eleven 650 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: and no one knew what they would be when we 651 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: picked them as team of at That was good. The 652 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: year before was Vikings, the Minnesota Vikings, which that I 653 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 1: would say was on my part of very forward thinking 654 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: um exercise seeing what they would become. But just like 655 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: choosing the only season where Mike Zimmer didn't overachieve or 656 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: didn't make the players basically the one bad Mike Zimmer, 657 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: that is another way to put it. And what I 658 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: like is that that was a unanimous smoke, but by 659 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: the end of the season, apparently only I voted for 660 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: that way. The show play was self inflicted subplots ever 661 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: in the history of this program, was the Vikings that 662 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: you started off five and oh uh, and then they 663 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 1: proceeded to lose a number of heartbreaking games, losing three points, 664 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: two points, one point, and marketting more and more uncomfortable 665 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: and self conscious about being the man that nominated the 666 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: Vikings inane well about like oh my god, people are 667 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: you like turned totally against them, by the time they 668 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: were five and three. They embarrassed me. They embarrassed me. 669 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: But just simultaneously Dan was acting like retroactively that he 670 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 1: had voted for the Raiders and like nominated the Raiders, 671 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: a very entertaining Raiders team that went twelve and four, 672 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: another team that was kind of under the radar. I 673 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: always thought that was the team. So I was the 674 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: only year they over Yes, I was a little salty 675 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: that the Raiders didn't get picked, so maybe the Vikings 676 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: failing was more validation it was. It was a tense 677 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: environment where I think we even had to have a 678 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: couple of conversations as a group outside of the podcast 679 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: to discuss the year before. Speaking of tense, I believe 680 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: that was the year two thousand fifteen of the then 681 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers. Now that was the Cardinals, al right, 682 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals was the first year. Correct, Panthers first, we couldn't 683 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: figured the Panthers. Panthers was the first year, then the Chargers, 684 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: and then the Cardinals, Vikings Rams, that's the order, So 685 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: this is that's close enough, This must be the sixth year. 686 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,240 Speaker 1: Who based off that? Um, so we're gonna each nominate 687 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: a team and then we will make the announcement. Uh, 688 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: make it official next week from London, maybe even at 689 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: our live show. That could be fun. But unless we 690 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: can't all agree, yeah, well we'll figure it out. It 691 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: will get decided one way or the other. So why 692 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: don't we get into it again? The floor, uh is 693 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: we each get the floor to really make a cell. 694 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: And this is your chance. So the more research you did, 695 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 1: the more thought you put into it, you'll probably get 696 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: what you put in. So Mark Sesler, why don't you 697 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: get us going with your two thousand eight teen nomination 698 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: for the team around the NFL West talked about searching 699 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: and growing and changing throughout this process, and I long, 700 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: for long a time, many years said that I simply 701 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 1: would not even root for much less often not even 702 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: watch a team that plays in a dome for for 703 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: aesthetic reasons. Drove me nuts. Just felt like I like 704 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: the elements, like the snow. I don't even unless the 705 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: entire podcast you've been talking about. Yes, so so, but 706 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 1: I but I need to change on some things in 707 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: life and this is this is one of them. And 708 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: the team that I'm nominating, number one, plays in the dome, 709 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: number two. It is a It is a city that 710 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: if I had a chance to just vanish for maybe 711 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: three or four decades, just ghost the all of civilization 712 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: of society. It is not there's in a city I 713 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: might pick. It is high on my radar. I had 714 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: one of the best weeks ever there before one of 715 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: our Super bowls. Dan and I hung out late into 716 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 1: the night, listening to incredible music, drinking incredible and by 717 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: an incredible drinks out of small plastic cups from from 718 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: place to place, up and down the street. This is 719 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: a city you can find that. This is a city 720 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: where Greg Rosenthal and his youth in his heyday and 721 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: or maybe I should say his salad days for appropriate 722 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: hung out with comedian Anthony Jeselnick doing a host of 723 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: mind expanding drugs, among other things, Listen to a bunch 724 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: of hot wrap, listen to hot rap, became a became 725 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: a rap fan of many sorts, got jailed. I think 726 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: we know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the 727 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. Because here's the thing. The Saints were 728 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: also a team on my radar for years and years 729 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: for consistently churning out milk toasts eight and eight campaigns 730 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: where you just couldn't figure like the GM being the 731 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 1: GM of the football team and the basketball did not 732 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: at all, did not at all, but last year. It's 733 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: but last year the results were different. I feel that 734 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: Sean Payton has somewhat proven again how incredibly creative he 735 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: can be as a coach. You've got Drew Brees and look, 736 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: it's probably not the final season, but this, this team 737 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: right now in an incredibly stocked NFC is going to 738 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: be in a big matchup almost every single week. And 739 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,320 Speaker 1: this Teddy Bridgewater trade helped a lot in my decision 740 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: making because they're not the team in my NFL dot 741 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: Com picks that went out today who I picked to 742 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, so that doesn't really matter to me. 743 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: But I love that they went out and got a 744 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: capable back of if anything happens to breeze, you have 745 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater in there. You have one of the most 746 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: fascinating back fields in all of football with Alvin Kamara 747 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: and Mark with a k Ingram when he comes back 748 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 1: from this little pe D band. You've got talent all 749 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: over the place on both sides of the ball. I 750 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: think they're the most fascinating division in all of football 751 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,919 Speaker 1: and this is my team. I never thought I would 752 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: nominate the New Orleans Saints as team of a t L, 753 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: but I looked at the schedule and from wire to 754 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: wire they have incredible matchups, and I think even if 755 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: they don't even win the division, if they got in 756 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: as a wild card, they're the kind of team that 757 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: could get hot with that coach and that quarterback and 758 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 1: get back to the super Bowl. It's almost a decade 759 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: to go. They did it the first time. How about 760 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: you closed this whole thing with another wait way to 761 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,760 Speaker 1: get out ahead of the curve on those plucky, upstart 762 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: Saints that are super Bowl. Well, we continue to pick. 763 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: I guarantee you, lot of guarantee you it will not 764 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: be the last super Bowl type team in this nomination process, 765 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: especially from the little gigglers over here. You guys are unbelievable. 766 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,439 Speaker 1: To do that. That is unbelievable. Staff, I know what's 767 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: coming up. I know what's coming up. I'm responding to 768 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: Chris Wesleyan's doesn't burn, nice burn. This guy picked the 769 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: pant This guys, always Cardinals were a super Bowl team. 770 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: New Panthems were a super Bowl team. Come on, let 771 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: us all remember, of course, that this is really the 772 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: team of West right. See, I will not pick up 773 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: up an underdog type two. Will never never. Three years later, 774 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: you still have not thanked me for trying to save 775 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: you from the Chargers. Boring asked team that we're just 776 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: that we know that underdog teams that Mike go seven 777 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: and nine or eight and eight would be fun the 778 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 1: entire way will never win this contest. So I went 779 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: with one that is a mixture of boys. Take a 780 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: deep breath. Okay, we will Okay, you guys can keep going. Okay, 781 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: thank you, I appreciate I like it just for the 782 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: storyline of the Saints playing the Super Bowl in Atlanta. 783 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: And then to make it even a little more exciting, 784 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: let's make Teddy Bridgewater the starting quarterback. I don't know 785 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:36,439 Speaker 1: what happens to in the meantime, and flying I would 786 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: be the biggest like poke in the eye of the 787 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,280 Speaker 1: city of Atlanta. Ever, it would at least be intriguing. 788 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm not believe me. It's all right. Let's move on, Mark, 789 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: don't get upset. You have to stay strong. No, I 790 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: what I see it is I'm standing up for my selection. 791 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,959 Speaker 1: I liked it. Yeah, I'm standing up for it now, 792 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: Chris Wesson, when I said my team s t LS. 793 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: West is a man. He's a man of his principles. 794 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: He's a man who in a lot of ways, Uh 795 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: is the face of this exercise because he's a guy 796 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 1: that doesn't have a team, a guy that loves to 797 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: eat tape. This guy he likes the smoke. Is that 798 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: what it is? The term that doesn't make sense. He's 799 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: he eats tape for dinner, Andy ben Wah, you're not 800 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: eating tape like Wes. Drink yours maybe anyway? Um anyway, 801 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: So Wes a man that is very strong as his opinions. 802 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: If if you, if you need a reminder when you 803 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: see him in London, tell him that Lebron James is 804 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: better than Michael Jordan's and see what happens. You'll be 805 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: laughed in. He's a passionate man that it's gonna be 806 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: very hard to swing his vote away from whoever he's 807 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 1: about to nominate. And what typically happens the charge of 808 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: season notwithstanding, as West Uh pounds a table for a team, 809 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: he wears us down and we just end up going 810 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 1: with whatever West. So this is Vegas heavy favorite, absolutely inaccurate. 811 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,919 Speaker 1: You went with the Chargers over my dead body one year. 812 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: Last year, I wasn't even on the show when you 813 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,399 Speaker 1: guys picked the Rams. Were you happy with our pick 814 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: last year? Well, yeah, I picked him to go to 815 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 1: the playoffs and one sandwich is off. I think we picked. 816 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: A part of it was if I had if I recall, 817 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: we kept that in mind the first the first year, 818 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: it was like a natural evolution to the Panthers for 819 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,399 Speaker 1: the most part. Yes, yes, and they're not all gonna 820 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,879 Speaker 1: be winners. Sometimes we back through. I don't. I thought 821 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: the Charges team is a fascinating team, as I recall, 822 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 1: but that's the past us. Well, another one of your 823 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: inaccurate statements. I'm not married to this team. I'm about 824 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: about to propose. I don't feel that great about him. 825 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: It's early in the process. There's no team that's really 826 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,919 Speaker 1: got me, like, I don't have a fever for anyone yet. 827 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: But this team has a little something for everyone but Mark. Okay, 828 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: but we were told downstairs in our met mean that, hey, 829 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 1: if you like a team, you know, just try to 830 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,439 Speaker 1: go for it. And this is a team that Mark 831 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:14,399 Speaker 1: has tried to disband. Uh uh, Dan, it is your 832 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: probably the best special teams player in the league, and 833 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: your fantasy kicker Justin Tucker. It's the team that Greg 834 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 1: believes will win the an f C North over the Steelers. 835 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,280 Speaker 1: It is a team that has a lot of new faces, 836 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 1: a lot of exciting rookies that will be fun to watch, 837 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: a whole new wide receiver corps that could help salvage 838 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. Speaking of Joe, Flacco, looks to me like, 839 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: I'm much more fun guy to watch this year. He 840 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: looks streamlined to me, He's moving well, much more fun 841 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: quarterback to watching in the past couple of years until 842 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,800 Speaker 1: this Flacco part of this, and then if Flacco doesn't 843 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,919 Speaker 1: work out, Lamar Jackson could be one of the most 844 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,320 Speaker 1: fun players in the NFL to watch and a defense 845 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: that's their every year. To me, the Ravens are kind 846 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 1: of exciting. I haven't said, kind of like the Joe 847 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: Flacco redemption arc. I know he's not anybody's favorite player, uh, 848 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: but I feel like he was kind of dead and buried. 849 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: I remember Steve Smith completely put him six ft underground 850 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 1: minutes after Lamar Jackson was drafted thirty two overall. He 851 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 1: Smith did it on live TV TV. I think he 852 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: said Joe Flacco was going bye bye something very disrespectful 853 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: of a Super Bowl m v P. Let's let's be honest. 854 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: Who is Even before the A C L TA are 855 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, he was great in that 856 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,439 Speaker 1: Patriot playoff game where they very nearly I've never seen 857 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: Patriots fans more scared of a player than they were 858 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. A few years Flacco and that guy throws 859 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 1: a deep ball was briefly connected to a Johnny Unitis 860 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: film project, and I always like that just never got 861 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: off the ground. I guess that the funding or maybe 862 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: something happened, But yeah, I I like that. I like, 863 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: I don't like the Ravens, but the Ravens team is 864 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 1: something that I think we're all on board with except 865 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: for Mark, and I understand why you're not. Mark, Well, 866 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 1: I think you make good points number one and I 867 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: and I try to get over some of the Ravens 868 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,080 Speaker 1: stuff on some level, but I would probably need to 869 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: erase like of what's inside of me to like suddenly 870 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: be sitting around pumping my fist for Ravens victories on 871 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: Sundays that said, like, yeah, there's been a couple I 872 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: think I was in like post Vikings hangover scenario last year. 873 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: But here's the thing I mean I think you make 874 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are much more intriguing this season 875 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: and this time around than they have been for me 876 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: in a long time. I mean that you basically went 877 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: out of your way to pick a team that Cleveland 878 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 1: moved to Baltimore to become the Ravens, and Torture might not. 879 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but it's like, but terms, in terms 880 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: of scenarios, this is about as impossible of of a 881 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 1: candidate as you can bring up for a unanimous vote. 882 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: But I'm willing to let it just just state and 883 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: see how as this the other team, well, one of 884 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,720 Speaker 1: the other teams I was really thinking about was the Bengals. 885 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: Would they have had a better chance with you than 886 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 1: the much much much better? I respect the Bengals, and 887 00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,279 Speaker 1: you do. Bengals did not steal the Cleveland Brown out 888 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,760 Speaker 1: of Cleveland. I don't feel too. I would go along 889 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 1: with most teams, and the Ravens are into more interesting 890 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 1: to me than usual. But I in my heart they 891 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: kind of are on the short list of teams that 892 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 1: I will never like watching them play against another team. 893 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,399 Speaker 1: I'm never rooting for the Bank. Does anyone find them 894 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 1: you know, I just I don't know why. Maybe it's 895 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: the Patriots fan in me. I just I don't know. Ven. 896 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,879 Speaker 1: Does anyone find them like especially likable historically? Well, when 897 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: Ray Lewis is there, I I never liked him, I 898 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: can tell you that. But um and Terrell SUGS is 899 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 1: a hard guy to root for. Likable historically, Yeah, I 900 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: think I feel like they've been one of the most 901 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: well run franchises in the NFL since they've been in existence. 902 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 1: I think it's yeah, and it's I I guess, like 903 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,959 Speaker 1: you know, if you were a Bengals fan, you probably 904 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't feel that way about them, But like, it's a 905 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: it's a little different when you know there there is 906 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: still a human fan side of it. And this is 907 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: a tall order. Um, all right, let's move on to 908 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 1: the other side of the table. And for the first 909 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,439 Speaker 1: time ever that I can recall, because we we come 910 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: to these decisions on the nominees independently. Uh, it turns 911 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: out that Greg and I both are going to nominate 912 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,839 Speaker 1: the same team. I'll get it going and Greg's gonna 913 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: come in be the little Craig kimberl close it down 914 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: rep for you there. Um, I'll be the Louis Savarino here, 915 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: So let's let's get to it. Um. The Atlanta Falcons 916 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: making a funny like we had always said we're not 917 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,239 Speaker 1: gonna go for the front runners and the obvious Super 918 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 1: Bowl contenders, and now we've like three out of four people. 919 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 1: It's to be what you got to go for, that 920 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: plucky up store organization, the Baltimore Ravens, there is something 921 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 1: they've been in the playoffs and what four years we 922 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 1: nominate the teams that that are fun to watch, that 923 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 1: to me, have have fun narratives attached to them, good 924 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: stories to tell, and I think the Falcons it's a 925 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: great story of a team looking to get over the hump, 926 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 1: a team loaded with town and UH in a league 927 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: where the window never stays open for long and you 928 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 1: don't know how much longer this core group, especially on 929 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, will be playing together 930 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 1: at this level. And each of the past two years 931 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 1: they were knocked out of the playoffs and devastating fashion, 932 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,760 Speaker 1: UH by the eventual Super Bowl champion. And I think 933 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,879 Speaker 1: last year we were at the Coliseum when they took 934 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 1: out the Rams in the wild card playoffs, and they 935 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 1: looked as good as anybody in the league at that point. Uh. 936 00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 1: They go into Philadelphia and they get into a rock 937 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 1: throwing match with the Eagles and they break down. Uh. 938 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: They have four shots from inside ten yards to win 939 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 1: the game and they cannot get it done. That hurt. 940 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: That doesn't even come close to what happened. Uh at 941 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl the year before, when, of course they 942 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: had the infamous meltdown against the Patriots. And Uh, the 943 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: Falcons And I'm gonna throw it to Greg and just 944 00:50:55,239 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: add this, the Falcons this year are coming back looking 945 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: to get over the hump on the year where the 946 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: super Bowl is being played in their building in Atlanta, 947 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: and I it reminds me of Super Bowl fifty one. 948 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: The night before all of us as a group, we 949 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,760 Speaker 1: uh Keith Hansas was in town, all of our friends 950 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: that that we had brought to the super Bowl. We 951 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,879 Speaker 1: made the ill fated decision to go from one bar 952 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: to go find what we were told was a really 953 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 1: good barbecue place in Houston. That was an absurd journey 954 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,280 Speaker 1: I'll never forget. And we went on a long journey 955 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 1: by foot because you couldn't travel anywhere by uber or 956 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: cab because the downtown was basically in lockdown the night 957 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl, and we made this long journey 958 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 1: and the place had run out of meat, so it 959 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 1: was closed almost boarded up, as I recall, Uh, And 960 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,439 Speaker 1: we were kind of on the on the shady side 961 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: of town, I remember, and then we were like, okay, 962 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,240 Speaker 1: what's going on here? Right about a hundred yards away 963 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 1: was the Falcons team. Uh, the Falcons Fans hotel. They 964 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 1: had taken over like a dumpy holiday inn. They it 965 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 1: was a party going on in front of that hotel, 966 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 1: and it to me, and especially with the Patriots on 967 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 1: the other side, was like, oh, this is so fun. 968 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 1: This is like the dream is a Jets fan of 969 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl and your team being in it. 970 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,720 Speaker 1: These people having the times at times of their lives. 971 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking about what what would happen to this 972 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 1: team got over the hump and they wanted in their hometown. 973 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 1: That place would be an amazing party and we'd be 974 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 1: at the party. So I want to see the Falcons 975 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 1: get over the hump, Greg, I want to see excellent rewarded. 976 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: That's why I'm just I'm picking them today. And and 977 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,439 Speaker 1: maybe I'll throw out you know, you mentioned the Bengals before, 978 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,439 Speaker 1: and maybe that's a conversation we could have because I'd 979 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,880 Speaker 1: be in on the Bengals too. But I want to 980 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 1: see instead of an upstart, a team that's done it 981 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: all the right way, that kind of makes decisions the 982 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 1: right way, that's built the team the right way, that 983 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,960 Speaker 1: I enjoy watching play football, that has a great storyline 984 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,800 Speaker 1: in terms of it would be incredible for this fan base, 985 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 1: and really Atlanta sports fans in general have had a 986 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 1: lot of pain over the last twenty years. They could 987 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 1: enjoy a moment in the sun. And they've been building 988 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 1: to this moment, and Dan Quinn has been building this defense. 989 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 1: I think this defense is a lot of fun to watch. 990 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter which side of the ball is 991 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 1: on the field, I enjoy watching this team play and 992 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 1: they've been building to something. And NFL can be so 993 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,399 Speaker 1: random that there's something in me that just feels like 994 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: the Falcons deserve to have that moment that this group 995 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 1: they're not gonna be together forever, like Dan said, and 996 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: this is the year that I'm kind of hoping it 997 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,840 Speaker 1: all comes together, that Grady, Jared and Dion Jones and 998 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and Calvin really in this whole group just 999 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: plays great and it's fun to watch and we're along 1000 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: for the ride. And we do it all the way 1001 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: to Atlanta, which is gonna be a party for a week, 1002 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: except for the day that we go to Tybee, which 1003 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: will be of an even bigger party. Do it for 1004 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:53,839 Speaker 1: the Tybee people. Nicely done, was Greg? So why they 1005 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: called me kimbro I mean, this is this was a 1006 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,240 Speaker 1: great preseason we all had, and I think we should, 1007 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, acknowledge our mulligan and and do it all over. 1008 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 1: This reminded me. Come on, this reminds me of like 1009 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 1: that Broncos team that got whacked in the Super Bowl 1010 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,839 Speaker 1: and returned two years later to win. It's already it's 1011 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 1: a totally different situation that the right on the doorstep 1012 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 1: that they could taste their first they never won before. 1013 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 1: This is an organizations. I'm very pro Falcons. I'm not 1014 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,760 Speaker 1: just saying they're different than the Bronx. It still takes 1015 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 1: resilience though, for this a lot of the same people 1016 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: two years later to get back to that game at 1017 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 1: all and then find a way to win it. And 1018 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,320 Speaker 1: I thought that was that was something that changed everything 1019 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 1: I thought about that Broncos team and that era of 1020 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,800 Speaker 1: that Broncos team. This Falcons team is as well coached 1021 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,320 Speaker 1: as as there is in the league and the front office. 1022 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 1: We've been talking about them for months, and Matthew Zick 1023 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,920 Speaker 1: is one of our producers, knows firsthand that there were 1024 00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: there was a lot of support for the Falcons, but 1025 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 1: there is also a show to do. And I will 1026 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: say one thing that you can say, these are all 1027 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,319 Speaker 1: front running Super Bowl teams and they are certainly in 1028 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,439 Speaker 1: that conversation in the NFC has about eight of those 1029 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,319 Speaker 1: they have they have about eight of those teams. And 1030 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: the thing is, when you pick a team from the 1031 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: NFC South, you got to get out of that division first. 1032 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 1: Whether it's the Saints or the Falcons or the Panthers, 1033 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,359 Speaker 1: that's a really tough shore to begin with. So it's 1034 00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 1: no cake walk. We're not picking the Packers of the 1035 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: last six years that just rolled through the North. Well, 1036 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 1: I'm I'm open to just picking any team, whether they're 1037 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 1: bad or good or whatever, if it's a team that 1038 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 1: you enjoy watching, like you mentioned the Bengals. To me, 1039 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: that's a out of left field interesting choice just because 1040 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,280 Speaker 1: they're so random, and I would like think I would 1041 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,319 Speaker 1: think about the Bengals, but it sounds like right now 1042 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,359 Speaker 1: we don't have a team that's just like jumping off 1043 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 1: like I'm in on the here's the reality. I'm in 1044 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,359 Speaker 1: on the Rams and the Chargers. I just know that 1045 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 1: you guys aren't gonna go with them like I like 1046 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals. I'm still all in on the Chargers. I'd 1047 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 1: love to see Philip Rivers do it. I just kind 1048 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 1: of feel like, you got no one's gonna go back 1049 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 1: to that. Well, this is a higher quality version of 1050 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 1: the Bengals. But this is a team where we've all 1051 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,840 Speaker 1: agreed that their quarterback is the absolute middle of the league, 1052 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 1: and the Andy Dalton, and that the coach is the 1053 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,759 Speaker 1: absolute middle of the league. And is that what we're 1054 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 1: that it's too cute. I have to all of a 1055 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 1: sudden say we're gonna get behind the Bangles and a 1056 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,839 Speaker 1: little disingenuous that we've been burying them that decade. Why 1057 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: But I like change, I change who I like depending 1058 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 1: on the year, to the point of the exercises to 1059 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,799 Speaker 1: get in on a team before other people don't think, well, 1060 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 1: I think we all for each of us, the exercise 1061 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 1: means something a little bit different. That's been part of 1062 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 1: the It wasn't till this year that people are like, oh, yeah, 1063 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 1: we should go for the powerhouse teams. There used to 1064 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 1: be a little shape. The Cardinals team. That Cardinals team 1065 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:42,840 Speaker 1: that went to the NC was fantastic. Yeah, but we 1066 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 1: got them before. They were good. Actually they were eight 1067 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,760 Speaker 1: and one with Carson Palmer the year before we picked them. 1068 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:54,360 Speaker 1: And what were they total? Right? But yeah, gotta love this. Say, 1069 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 1: a lot of juice, a lot of heat. Ercho, do 1070 00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 1: you feel that coming through the glass. Yeah, it's crazy 1071 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 1: out here, how bubble right? Definitely? Um So, anyway, there 1072 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 1: there's the nominees. There there are four teams that will 1073 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,920 Speaker 1: not are three teams that will not be the around 1074 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. Alright, we have any applause for we're 1075 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 1: gonna okay, never mind, all right, the Atlanta Falcons are. 1076 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna go through with this. Far as the Cincinnati Bengals, 1077 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 1: they're out there to right now, they're out there. Oh 1078 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. The Baltimore Ravens and the New Orleans Saints. 1079 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 1: Those are the three nominees. Now does that mean it's 1080 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 1: definitely the team eight ten. Maybe not, but that's who 1081 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 1: we've not nominated today. We'd love to hear from you 1082 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 1: on Twitter and on the subreddit. UH. And again a 1083 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 1: reminder around the NFL goes to London next week and 1084 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 1: we will have a live show on Tuesday, UH night 1085 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 1: from the Curtain Club in Shoreditch, London. UH. Check out 1086 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: the round the NFL handle on Twitter or any of 1087 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: our handles um quite frankly to get uh information on 1088 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 1: how to get tickets. And tickets are extremely limited, so 1089 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 1: be sharp. I hope you're listening to this podcast earlier 1090 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 1: rather than later, because I'm sure whoever gets this stuff first, 1091 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 1: we'll get the tickets first. Right. That's it. That's it. 1092 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: That's the end of the show. Wait, can I hear 1093 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 1: can we close out with the Packer song instead? Kind 1094 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 1: of until the locks? All right? Dan has a signing 1095 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 1: after that for a quiet storm, the Mailman, the old Boss, 1096 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 1: the loose cannon behind the glass, still Friday letters here 1097 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 1: just for everybody out there in packer Land today, R 1098 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 1: E l A. Thanks, We're laugh