WEBVTT - Breaking down the Bears vs. 49ers matchup | Bears, etc. Podcast 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.560 Cut over that DJ Moore n Zode. 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:09.160 Touchdown, touchdown Bear. I am Jeff Jonihanlitz is not Donnie 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:14.560 go hout what was like playing for Coachy Digg. I 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:16.800 don't want to answer any questions like that pressure coming 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:22.840 is a big trouble Doti Goos Montese Sweat. 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:26.480 Now, Bears, etc. 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:29.560 Brought to you by Geico with the voices of the Bears, 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:34.400 Jeff Joniec and Tom Tayer. Welcome into episode one seventeen 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:36.519 of The Bears et cetera podcast with Tom Tayr. I'm 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.800 Jeff Joniat, getting you set. Four Bears and Niners were 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.440 brought to you by Geico. Our special guest this week 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:46.720 is former Chicago Bear usc Trojan and the color Analyst, 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.800 the longtime color analyst of the San Francisco forty nine ers, 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:52.040 the man we call t Rock, the man with the 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:53.880 great hair and the big mustache. 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:55.760 She'd fit right in. 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:59.960 In any of Chicago's legendary figures with the big flowing mustache. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.280 I don't know about the man bun, but it looks 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:02.800 good on you. 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:06.320 Well before before this podcast is over, I'll take the 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.520 man bun down just to satisfy you. 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:09.760 You lyrical gangster. 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.720 You know, here's my motto at my age, and Tommy 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:15.960 will understand this maybe better than anybody. 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:20.720 If you got it, grow it, amen, Welcome, end to 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:22.520 that tea Rock. You know, it's funny you kind of 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:26.000 come across people in your lifetime that you're rarely refer 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:28.800 to them as their name. And I was thinking about 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.880 that this morning, Tim, that I don't know if in 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.800 my lifetime I've ever called you by your real name, 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:38.760 because everybody affectionately knows you as T Rock. So as 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.119 people listen to this podcast and they hear us constantly 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.880 refer to t Rock, no, that is Tim Ryan. 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:47.520 That's it. 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.280 You know how it was in old two point fifty 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.720 North Washington Road, Tommy, if you didn't have a nickname 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:54.760 by year two, you were getting cut. I mean it 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:59.040 was pretty much that simple. So yeah, it's been going 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.320 for a long time. The other day, you remember Eric Komero, 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.640 who played with us, of course ninety two maybe or 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.320 ninety one, I don't remember, but he was out at 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.760 the game a couple of weeks ago and he nick 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:12.720 told me he was coming. 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.000 So I hear him and he's in the end zone 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:16.280 and I just rock. 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:17.640 I just hear him yell at right. 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.079 So I go over there and I was talking to 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:21.920 Nick at the time in the end zone. So I 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:23.639 go over there and chop it up with Eric. It 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:25.200 was great to see him. Haven't seen him in a 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:29.440 long time, and so it was good, and then played 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.440 the game. Next day, I'm in the weight room and 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.320 Nick comes in. I said, Hey, what's up, Nick? And 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:39.400 he goes, it's up t Rock okay, And now every 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.799 time I see Nick, it's like, t Rock, what's up? Man? 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.200 I go, hey, what's up? Bos? How you do buddy? 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.520 So kind of told him that story of getting nicknames, 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:52.120 and it's kind of the same ere. There's some some 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:53.480 good old days, that's for sure. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:57.160 Yeah. So do you want to open up with USC? 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.720 Notre Dame or San Francisco, Chicago? 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.839 Why don't we talk about Boise State. I'm pretty high 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:04.680 on them right now. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.280 Isn't there their running back in the Heisman Trophy County. 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.080 He's an absolute beast and my daughter's a senior up 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:13.920 at Boise State. 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:18.799 So no, we're good. Yeah, we can go wherever you want. 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.680 The USC has been a lot like the forty nine 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:26.239 ers this year that they obviously been unable to finish 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:30.000 games and in big moments they've made big errors. And 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:35.000 you know, Notre Dame, you Golden Domers, I'm never pulling 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.760 for you, but I'm always pulling, But I'm always pulling 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:38.040 for you. 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.320 Tom. 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.160 You know, that was a great football game and came 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:44.880 down to the end in a couple of big errors. 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.480 So they've had their challenges. This forty nine er team 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:52.280 has clearly had their challenges finishing games. Well. 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:54.240 You know, you know one thing about Bassian. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.240 Games that really get get you are the ones that 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:58.880 you know, ten point leads in the fourth quarter are 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.880 unable to hold on. And that's that's been unlike this 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.880 football team over the last been pretty spoiled, you know, 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:08.160 in four and a half of the last five six years. 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.640 You know one thing about that Notre Dame USC game. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:12.880 And I always tell people that if they want to 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:16.800 go and see two games, that the atmosphere is unlike 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:20.400 any others. It's either Chicago Bears, Green Bay in Lambeau 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:24.680 or Notre Dame USC at the Coliseum. And as you know, 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:28.080 a kid growing up in Joliet, from the Midwest, flying 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.600 from South Bend to California just in awe of the 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.919 presence of USC and the people on the sideline and 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.000 just all the fanfare that surrounded that game. And I 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:41.320 still get that kind of emotional attachment to the Notre 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:43.520 Dame USC game in the coliseum. 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:49.080 Well absolutely, I mean that we all saw the well 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:51.760 it's probably eight milimeter clips when we were watching them 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.480 on the old reels of those some of those legendary 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:55.640 historical games. 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.760 And you'll probably remember your guys. 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.240 I remember Anthony Davis and some of those games, games 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.560 that us he was able to come back great, you 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.839 know inner you know, big cross country rivalry that's got 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:09.960 so much tradition to it, and it means a lot. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.400 It doesn't matter if you you know what your record is, 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:14.880 throw them out the window. That's that's the biggest game 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.400 of the year. And everybody usually says, well what about UCLA, 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:21.120 and I go, that's that's a big rivalry, that's crosstown rivalry. 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.599 But when you talk real rivalry, it's and with USC 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:29.560 boosters and the alumni, it's about beating Notre Dame. And 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:34.560 that's why I, you know, I probably have you know, 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.400 a lot more fun talking about it if I was 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.200 able to beat him. I was on four against the 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.839 Irish and and we had good teams. And I'll never 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.080 forget the two ten and oh teams in eighty eight. 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.279 I think it was in first play the game, Tony 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.520 Rice sixty five yard option around the corner and they 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:55.200 never look back. And Stan Smagala picked off Rodney team 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.760 right before halftime and ticket in Frank Stams blew his shoulder. 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.920 I mean, Chrystal out there with the skinny tape around 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.719 his wrists, so mean, come on, man, you know t. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.240 Rock one quick thing about it. I was zero and 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:12.240 four against USC also kind of were right. But the 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.400 first play I ever played in my college career, I 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.719 lined up as a full back against Notre Dame USC 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:23.200 at Notre Dame and I blocked Chip Banks. So that 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:28.640 was my introduction into college football, the first play I 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.800 ever played. And it's you know, that memory will never 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.400 go away. And so when you talk about the names 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.800 in your past history, you know I played or I 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.320 didn't play against, But you know there was Charles White, 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:46.080 there was Marcus Allen, there was you know, Bruce Bruce Matthews, 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:50.520 Don Mosebar, all these great football players across the legendary 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.960 landscape of USC that I'm super familiar with. 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.640 A game like that four times in your career help 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.719 get you drafted second round for you, Tim, fourth round 0:06:59.720 --> 0:06:59.920 for ten. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:00.680 Yeah. 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.479 True that And from what Tommy said, I remember my 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.359 first game lineup. I know, Beerline was the quarterback my 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.240 freshman year, played head up on Andy Heck when he 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.760 was an offensive tackle, which is you know, we all 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.960 know that he ended up moving to or was tight 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.200 end before he was an offensive tackle, so he's a 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:19.320 tight end at Notre Dame. We made the mistake I 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.600 think up up in that game, I don't remember the score, 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.440 but up by two scores and made the mistake upuonting 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.880 to Tim Brown twice. Not a good idea, and they 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.800 beat us at the at the coliseum and Ted Tolner 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:32.040 was fired after that game. 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:36.080 Well, one thing more about the USC angle. Caleb Williams 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:40.239 gets his jersey retired last weekend, brought a Notre Damer 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.840 with him and Cole Comet came out there. So that 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.080 was kind of cool symmetry and great for Caleb because 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.920 he was a great quarterback in college obviously at two schools, 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:50.360 but well deserved. 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:54.720 Yeah, and I would say this, and you know, we 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.200 I know Cole obviously don't know him, but his dad, 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.240 Frank was with us way back in the day. You know, 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:02.520 say what you want about the rivalry, and when you 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:04.720 get on the field, guys are you know you're trying 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:06.640 to win your period. I remember we got in a 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:10.160 big fight with Notre Dame in my senior year when 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:10.680 we were there. 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:11.520 But at the end of the. 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.000 Day, there's tremendous respect I think between the players, between 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:18.840 the coaches, and just because we know what the rivalry 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:20.960 means and we know whenever you go out there and play, 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:22.840 the guys that are out there doing it are laying 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:23.520 it on the line. 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:24.960 And so there's always been a. 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:28.840 Life Mike McGlinchey, I've never met, you know, Michael stone Breaker, 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.800 you can go down the list. I've never met a 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.320 Notre Dame guy I didn't appreciate being around. 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:35.560 Yeah, those are some good names right there. 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:37.520 We're brought to you by PNC Official Bank of the 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.800 Bears with Tim Ryan just quickly before we get into 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.679 the matchup and what's going on with the forty nine ers, 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:47.040 reflections on your time in Chicago. Obviously you made an 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.679 impact because everybody loves you. Whenever I bring you up, 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.679 you know you weren't here that long, but you're here 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:55.960 long enough to make an impact with people. 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:57.440 So that says a lot of by you. 0:08:57.840 --> 0:08:59.840 Well, I appreciate it. A lot of good people there, 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:00.960 you know. 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.080 I look at some of these facilities now, that and 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.040 the one we're sitting out out here in Santa Clara, 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:07.400 and I think of that old college at two fifty 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:08.880 North Washington. 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:08.800 Road, and. 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:13.560 I'll never forget meeting rooms were downstairs under the weight room. 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:15.920 You remember that. Tom and guys will do it course, 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.680 and kyde Emrick wasn't real big on spot and dumbbells. 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.560 You just throw them to the floor when you're done 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:21.960 with them. 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.480 Where to god, I'm like, something's coming through this ceiling, man, 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:30.000 something is coming through this ceiling. No indoor, I mean 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.440 Tommy practiced outdoors most of your career. I mean, we 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:37.600 had no indoor facility. It didn't matter. One time I 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:40.520 remember being out there and it was probably in late September, 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.560 and Tommy, you'll remember this. You may have been one 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:45.319 of the guys. I'm probably not knowing you went into 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.480 the locker room. But the lightning was striking bro like 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.760 on the field. It was like the thunder and the 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:55.360 lightning were simultaneous, and I'm like, oh no, this is 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:59.440 We're out there hitting metal sleds and that. And I 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:03.240 remember Fridge. I remember McMichael that Fridge like, no, hell no, 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.560 we stayed out here and they went in like we 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.720 weren't even out of individual yet and they went in. 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.280 They're like hell no. I think McMichael went in and 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.360 Dicka got pissed. He's like a rag. 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.600 No one's gonna get struck by lightning out here. We're 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.960 going to finish practice. Well, so we finished practice. I 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:23.400 went home, laid on my couch, turned on the news. Uh, 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:26.840 six people struck by lightning in the Chicago Land area today. 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:31.319 I'm like, oh no, but had great times, man, had 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:35.800 I don't I mean everybody, I just I related to 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.679 what happens now. And it's such a show now and 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.240 it was a show back then. But with all the 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.720 wives and all the family and all the people and 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.040 the entertainment and everybody's got to have their fit and 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.880 everybody's got to have you know, it's all it's pretty crazy. 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.480 I don't know if we ever left the parking structure. 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:55.000 It took about two hours after games of being under there, 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:56.880 and it was always the same guys in the same 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:58.920 old studs and their families that were down there. 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.400 But great memories. 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:06.079 And really really enjoyed, you know, certainly my first three 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.360 years there when Dicta was there and and all the 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:11.280 old boys from from the great teams. And then things 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:14.160 started to change when Dave got there, and I was 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.240 there for a couple of years after that, and and 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:19.240 then I wasn't there any longer, but great memories. Would 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:23.520 never trade him for anything, and you know, silver lining 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.120 for me. And I hate that I didn't play nine 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.040 ten years. I think health permitting, a lot of us 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.360 would have played longer. But I look at some of 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:36.480 the guys that that ended up getting, you know, another 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.439 handful of seasons that that can hardly move. So I 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:44.080 I was very fortunate to get my ticket punched early 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.160 with an injury and got out and you know, still 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:48.840 got issues. 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:50.840 But what was it, feling pretty good about it? 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:52.400 What was the injury? 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:53.560 Neck? 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:58.559 Okay, neck, yeah, neck was And they didn't have the things, Jeff, 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.240 that they have now. I mean John Lynch had real 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.480 bad singers too, but and he was only three or 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.439 four years behind me. But by the time towards the 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.680 end of his career, they had procedures that they could 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.640 go in there and surgically kind of repair those or 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:13.679 if it's just you know, for those nerves and kind 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:15.480 of clear things out a little bit. They had none 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.280 of that back in the day, So it was Grin 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:21.960 and Barrett and I just couldn't do it anymore. But 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.239 at the end of the day, I've been very fortunate 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:28.120 to stay connected to the game and you know, do 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.240 it in a different way. It's not nearly as fun, 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.240 and as I tell people, it's a lot easier talking 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.640 about it than doing It's damp sure. 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:37.520 Tee, right, I got a question about that. So you 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.559 played for the Chicago Bears. You got drafted out of 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.680 USC you were immediately accepted into the team. You are 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.400 a high profile player, and then you went onto the 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.640 national broadcasting scene with Fox and now you've been doing 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.800 the San Francisco games for quite a while. Do you 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:55.959 still have any emotional attachment to the Chicago Bears, either 0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.800 when they're playing a game like last Thursday or a 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:00.760 game that they're going to play against the team you 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:05.520 broadcast for in San Francisco, Santa Clara, Yes, I do. 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:06.760 I don't you know. 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.720 I mean my jersey hangs up in my office and 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.840 the relationships I have. And I know Brian mccaskey's still 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:15.160 skating around there somewhere. 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:15.840 I don't know what. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:19.080 I don't think he's taping ankles anymore, but I think 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:20.199 he's doing something. 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:22.000 Yes, I do. 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.480 We went back for Robbie Gold's golf tournament. I don't 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.280 know it's been years now, four or five years, but 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.920 to see all all the you know, a lot of 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.840 the guys, see butt heead see a lot of the 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:34.600 guys I played with Big Kat Williams. Of course he 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:38.440 was in golfing. He was just hanging out. Good to 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.520 see a lot of those guys. And I'll be honest 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:44.040 with you, I pull for him every time they're playing, 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.640 and I was pulling for him in these last three games, 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.920 and I was pissed, like I'm pissed here when people 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.080 get away with stuff like when your center's head got 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:55.400 blown up on the block kick against the against the 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:57.400 Green Green Bay Packers at the end. 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.880 Of the game. So yes, I do have an emotional 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.120 vested interest in the is. 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:04.920 I like to say when I get my card every 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:07.640 year from the Chicago Bears football Club. 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.640 It's your first stop in football after college, So your 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:14.120 first professional stop, it's going to have some kind of 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.199 impact with you, for sure. Blue Cross and Blue Shield 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.640 of Illinois right here at home, driving access toward healthier communities, 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:24.200 through it all all right through your eyes. You know, 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.680 this is an interesting contrast in situations. 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:28.880 Here. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.720 You got a team that was rebuilding. They got a 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.080 quarterback they believe will be the franchise quarterback. You guys 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.440 have a franchise quarterback. It appears that was a late, 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:43.320 late round pick that was really successful at Miama mater 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:47.680 Iowa State University. And yes, I am a cyclone and 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:51.440 surrounded by great talent there that I've had multiple bites 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:54.800 at the Apple and then a franchise like the Bears 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.880 right now that has been it's been evasive to have 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:00.360 that bite at the Apple, not since a really good 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:05.240 season in twenty eighteen. It just reminds me this. You 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:09.440 can never take winning for granted, because even when you're 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:13.160 winning and you don't finish and get that Super Bowl, 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:17.240 there's an emptiness about it and that team. The window 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:22.280 is what has been gigantically open, right, but then you 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:25.440 start getting age and injury and now it's cloudy a 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.880 little bit. Can you kind of take us through the 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:31.400 perspective of two organizations in different places, but we're all 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:32.600 trying to get to the same place. 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:37.200 Well, I'd start with two Crown Jewels and two teams. 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.720 That have fans across the world that care about them 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:43.240 and have certainly have interest in them because of what 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.360 they are, what their label is, what their brand is, 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.280 how they play football, and of course out here with 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.480 certainly more Lombardi trophies. But Chicago has been in a 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:58.680 lot of big games and you know, as as hard 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:00.400 as hell to win in this league. I don't care 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.440 who it is. It's every week and and the run 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:05.520 that the forty nine ers were able to put together 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.760 from nineteen and you know, so much of it is 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:12.280 about is it's really at the end of the day, 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.800 it's not about place, about players. It's about having the 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:18.000 talent and about having finishers and guys that can go 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:18.720 out there and win. 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:19.760 You know, it's. 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:23.480 There's no magic wand of winning or losing. I just 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.480 always boil it down to one thing. Whip the guys 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.000 ask in front of and you got a pretty good 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:30.040 chance I mean, at the end of the day, to 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.960 win games. But you know, when Kyle got here, things 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:36.840 flipped and he was a great hire by by Jed 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:41.360 York and you know, tried. You know, Jimmy Garoppolo came 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.760 in because it was it was bad early obviously trying 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.240 to do it with with other guys. Jimmy came in here, 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.200 and and Jimmy with that you know, that ability just 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:50.920 to rip it and get it out quick and all 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:54.360 those inbreaking routes over the middle of the field was 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:58.720 really suited to his his style. Then some injuries started 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.240 cropping up on him, but certainly to god us to 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.680 the all the way to the to the Super Bowl 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.960 and nineteen the twenty Super Bowl to play Kansas City. 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.520 Unable to finish that game. At the end, defense dropped 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.320 the ball a couple of times in terms of the coverage, 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.359 Jimmy overthrew Emmanuel Sanders and what possibly was was going 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:20.480 to get over the hump at that point didn't happen. Brutal, 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:23.920 But to have so many of those players still young 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:28.000 and you know, Kittle, Fred Warner, Nick Bosa, all those 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.919 guys were still really really young. And then to go 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:36.120 out and you know, the COVID year happened, and then 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.280 Jimmy started having some injuries, some challenges started happening, some 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:43.400 contractual issues, and then getting Trey Lance and where they 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:47.240 got him, you know, set this organization back just because 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:51.800 he wasn't ready to go in terms of the playmaker 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:56.520 and a seamless playmaker and a great kid, but it 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:57.520 was a challenge for him. 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.040 And so they've since moved on. 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:02.399 But it's been hall hard to recover from the draft 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:04.840 picks that were giving up and how the draft situation was, 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:08.119 and you know, during that, but still able to win 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:12.159 a lot of games, get the NFC championships, you know, 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.280 when Jimmy got hurt and Brock got in there. 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:16.440 And I remember when Brock. 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.960 Got here out of out of Iowa State and I 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.760 watched him playing college. But I promise you he wasn't 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:27.159 here a week in his rookie mini camp. And you 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.080 know they always do, you know, they do one on 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:32.359 ones and the scout team thirteen quarterback goes and throws 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:36.280 linebackers on on uh running backs and tight ends when 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.120 they do the one on ones, and I'm watching him, 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:42.359 and that's usually there's going to be some space, you know, 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.520 those those running backs coming out of the back for 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.240 one on one there's no lineman. Same with tight ends. 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.000 But Brock's putting everything on the money on time. I'm like, 0:18:50.040 --> 0:18:53.520 holy cow. And then i watch him in some team stuff. 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.960 He's out there with thirteam and with a lot of rookies, 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.880 and it's the end of practice and I'm like, I'm 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.040 looking around, I'm like, is that not the best quarterback 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:04.320 we've had here since it was probably my eighth year 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.080 at the time, I said, since I've been here in 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.600 terms of reading the coverage and delivering the mail. 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:12.359 I mean, this guy's just bang, bang bang. And it 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:13.520 was like, yeah, no doubt. 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.639 You know some of the coaches, and then as the 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.200 season got going, you know, a lot of scout team 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.680 quarterbacks Jeff and Tommy knows this. They're throwing check downs, 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:25.800 they're throwing you know, they want to look good too, 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:28.560 and in terms out there taking their reps knowing they 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:31.320 don't have a chance to play, Brock is ripping it 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.560 into bracket coverage. He's trying to run the forty nine 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.200