1 00:00:04,404 --> 00:00:07,244 Speaker 1: Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in partnership 2 00:00:07,284 --> 00:00:08,244 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:08,804 --> 00:00:10,964 Speaker 2: Joe. Truly great to see you, man, You too, Man, 4 00:00:11,124 --> 00:00:13,044 Speaker 2: How's life ups and downs? 5 00:00:13,124 --> 00:00:14,884 Speaker 3: Yeah, but steadily going. 6 00:00:15,844 --> 00:00:17,644 Speaker 2: I'm gonna start you with a curveball. I think you 7 00:00:17,684 --> 00:00:19,724 Speaker 2: can hit it. I have never sat with you like 8 00:00:19,724 --> 00:00:20,244 Speaker 2: this before. 9 00:00:20,804 --> 00:00:22,684 Speaker 4: And when words circulated that I was going to I 10 00:00:22,724 --> 00:00:25,964 Speaker 4: got two texts from colleagues and they were like, good. 11 00:00:25,884 --> 00:00:29,284 Speaker 2: Luck with Joe. Really interesting guy. Can be a little 12 00:00:29,364 --> 00:00:31,484 Speaker 2: tricky to interview, for real. 13 00:00:32,084 --> 00:00:33,684 Speaker 3: Why do you think they said that. I don't know. 14 00:00:35,444 --> 00:00:38,924 Speaker 5: I feel like I critically think about each question and 15 00:00:39,004 --> 00:00:42,084 Speaker 5: I pause, think about what I want to say to 16 00:00:42,844 --> 00:00:46,444 Speaker 5: potentially give the best, most well thought out answer that 17 00:00:46,484 --> 00:00:48,844 Speaker 5: I can give. Maybe because of the way I talk, 18 00:00:48,964 --> 00:00:54,084 Speaker 5: or my voice inflections or my face, I often have 19 00:00:54,284 --> 00:00:59,204 Speaker 5: trouble interacting with people sometimes, and so that can potentially 20 00:00:59,204 --> 00:01:00,044 Speaker 5: throw some people off. 21 00:01:00,684 --> 00:01:03,004 Speaker 4: I think you're also high, IQ, and I think you 22 00:01:03,044 --> 00:01:04,924 Speaker 4: have this halo of mystery to keep it bout you 23 00:01:04,924 --> 00:01:08,124 Speaker 4: that can be intimidating. You're also a chess player, So 24 00:01:08,364 --> 00:01:11,044 Speaker 4: do you go into media? Do you have a strategy 25 00:01:11,164 --> 00:01:12,244 Speaker 4: or a philosophy at all? 26 00:01:12,644 --> 00:01:14,124 Speaker 3: Depends on the question that's asked. 27 00:01:14,284 --> 00:01:18,604 Speaker 5: Okay, I don't necessarily go into any interview thinking that way, 28 00:01:18,684 --> 00:01:21,044 Speaker 5: but I can think on my feet and if a 29 00:01:21,124 --> 00:01:23,604 Speaker 5: question is posed that I think I could steer one 30 00:01:23,604 --> 00:01:25,164 Speaker 5: way or the other, and I will certainly steer it 31 00:01:25,164 --> 00:01:25,484 Speaker 5: that way. 32 00:01:26,044 --> 00:01:27,044 Speaker 2: This is gonna be fun. 33 00:01:28,684 --> 00:01:29,044 Speaker 3: Somehow. 34 00:01:29,044 --> 00:01:30,084 Speaker 2: You were in your sixth. 35 00:01:29,884 --> 00:01:31,524 Speaker 3: Year, I know, right, crazy. 36 00:01:31,684 --> 00:01:35,564 Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't that long ago that you were Joe 37 00:01:35,684 --> 00:01:38,244 Speaker 4: in Ohio and you were talk kid who played sports 38 00:01:38,644 --> 00:01:40,444 Speaker 4: and Jim and Robinson the seven to four to ozho 39 00:01:41,284 --> 00:01:45,204 Speaker 4: And now, dude, you are an international celebrity. 40 00:01:46,124 --> 00:01:48,244 Speaker 2: What is your relationship like right now with fame. 41 00:01:49,924 --> 00:01:54,004 Speaker 5: I'm certainly getting more and more comfortable with it. 42 00:01:54,004 --> 00:01:54,404 Speaker 3: It is. 43 00:01:55,844 --> 00:01:59,524 Speaker 5: Not a place I ever thought I would find myself, 44 00:01:59,724 --> 00:02:03,244 Speaker 5: and it certainly comes with its own set of challenges. 45 00:02:03,404 --> 00:02:06,284 Speaker 3: I would say the pros. 46 00:02:06,364 --> 00:02:09,124 Speaker 5: Definitely outweigh the cons, but the cons are there and 47 00:02:09,164 --> 00:02:10,964 Speaker 5: you have to learn how to deal with them. And 48 00:02:11,004 --> 00:02:14,204 Speaker 5: it's not necessarily something that you can rely on a 49 00:02:14,204 --> 00:02:16,884 Speaker 5: lot of other people to help you with. There's certainly 50 00:02:16,884 --> 00:02:18,844 Speaker 5: not a lot of people in this kind of position. 51 00:02:19,044 --> 00:02:21,924 Speaker 5: So you just live and you learn, and you grow 52 00:02:21,964 --> 00:02:25,924 Speaker 5: through all the mistakes that you make and try to 53 00:02:25,924 --> 00:02:29,004 Speaker 5: find people who have been there and done that, And 54 00:02:29,044 --> 00:02:34,124 Speaker 5: sometimes those people don't necessarily want to share advice or 55 00:02:34,204 --> 00:02:37,364 Speaker 5: share because they've done it so many times. But then 56 00:02:37,484 --> 00:02:40,124 Speaker 5: you find some people that don't mind it. You learn 57 00:02:40,164 --> 00:02:40,484 Speaker 5: a lot. 58 00:02:40,404 --> 00:02:43,444 Speaker 4: From those who's someone that you could possibly relate to 59 00:02:43,564 --> 00:02:49,164 Speaker 4: that maybe helped you in that regard, cause. 60 00:02:48,924 --> 00:02:51,364 Speaker 2: It's a small small little people. 61 00:02:51,764 --> 00:02:55,164 Speaker 5: Odell m I think I learned how to move around 62 00:02:55,204 --> 00:02:59,724 Speaker 5: and move efficiently a lot from him. Kevin Durant have 63 00:03:00,764 --> 00:03:03,724 Speaker 5: developed a nice relationship with and he's a good friend 64 00:03:03,724 --> 00:03:05,364 Speaker 5: now and we talk a lot about a lot of 65 00:03:05,364 --> 00:03:10,644 Speaker 5: different things and how to make life easier, make your 66 00:03:10,724 --> 00:03:14,404 Speaker 5: job easier, how to be great, things like that. Whenever 67 00:03:14,444 --> 00:03:18,404 Speaker 5: I see Tom, I try to get something, get something 68 00:03:18,444 --> 00:03:18,884 Speaker 5: out of him? 69 00:03:18,924 --> 00:03:20,644 Speaker 2: What do you ask? How do you ask Tom Brady 70 00:03:20,684 --> 00:03:22,044 Speaker 2: like that? That's why I live life. 71 00:03:22,444 --> 00:03:24,964 Speaker 3: It depends on how the conversation is going. 72 00:03:25,084 --> 00:03:27,044 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, he's been through a lot the last 73 00:03:27,084 --> 00:03:30,324 Speaker 5: couple of years, and uh, he has a lot of 74 00:03:30,324 --> 00:03:34,044 Speaker 5: wisdom to to share. Yeah, and you don't wanna be 75 00:03:34,084 --> 00:03:36,284 Speaker 5: the guy that's just constantly like, hey, how do you 76 00:03:36,324 --> 00:03:36,524 Speaker 5: do this? 77 00:03:36,564 --> 00:03:37,164 Speaker 3: How do you do this? 78 00:03:37,244 --> 00:03:37,924 Speaker 2: What do you do there? 79 00:03:38,044 --> 00:03:40,764 Speaker 5: Totally Uh, you just wanna kind of hang out sometimes, 80 00:03:40,804 --> 00:03:43,244 Speaker 5: but you know, when the opportunity presents itself, you try 81 00:03:43,284 --> 00:03:45,524 Speaker 5: to find a place that you can fit something in 82 00:03:45,564 --> 00:03:46,444 Speaker 5: and maybe learn something. 83 00:03:46,724 --> 00:03:49,004 Speaker 2: This is really personal, so I I say this respectfully. 84 00:03:49,484 --> 00:03:52,124 Speaker 4: I want you know I think it is what you 85 00:03:52,164 --> 00:03:54,284 Speaker 4: went through with the violation of your home, and I 86 00:03:54,324 --> 00:03:55,484 Speaker 4: hate that you had to go through that. 87 00:03:55,564 --> 00:03:55,844 Speaker 3: Thanks. 88 00:03:56,284 --> 00:03:57,644 Speaker 2: How did that change you as a person. 89 00:03:58,764 --> 00:04:02,564 Speaker 3: I'm not sure did really. It certainly affects you in 90 00:04:02,564 --> 00:04:02,964 Speaker 3: the moment. 91 00:04:03,844 --> 00:04:08,004 Speaker 5: But I'm not gonna be the guy who's constantly anxious 92 00:04:08,004 --> 00:04:10,564 Speaker 5: about anything that's gonna happen to me on the day 93 00:04:10,604 --> 00:04:12,924 Speaker 5: to day. I just like going with the flow. Yeah, 94 00:04:13,004 --> 00:04:16,964 Speaker 5: living life. I'm not worried about all the potential things 95 00:04:17,004 --> 00:04:19,924 Speaker 5: that could happen in life or in football. 96 00:04:20,644 --> 00:04:24,084 Speaker 3: I don't like to worry about hypotheticals too much. 97 00:04:24,524 --> 00:04:26,644 Speaker 2: Joe, you do have an aura. I I I pick 98 00:04:26,684 --> 00:04:26,924 Speaker 2: it up. 99 00:04:26,964 --> 00:04:29,324 Speaker 4: You have a vibe, you have a panache, and you 100 00:04:29,364 --> 00:04:31,244 Speaker 4: have all these incredible things in your life, whether it 101 00:04:31,324 --> 00:04:35,284 Speaker 4: be fashion or wealth that I wonder if it makes 102 00:04:35,324 --> 00:04:38,084 Speaker 4: it difficult to walk into some place like a locker room, 103 00:04:38,524 --> 00:04:40,524 Speaker 4: how do you have those things and connect then with 104 00:04:40,564 --> 00:04:44,044 Speaker 4: an undrafted free agent rookie lineman whose life is just 105 00:04:44,124 --> 00:04:45,324 Speaker 4: so different from your life. 106 00:04:45,484 --> 00:04:50,644 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's certainly as I've become older and more experienced 107 00:04:50,684 --> 00:04:54,564 Speaker 5: and more established in the league, it's certainly, uh more 108 00:04:54,684 --> 00:04:59,724 Speaker 5: challenging to do that. Guys come in and think of 109 00:04:59,764 --> 00:05:02,844 Speaker 5: you a certain way and oftentimes think of you as 110 00:05:02,924 --> 00:05:06,124 Speaker 5: just an extension of the organization or the coaching staff. 111 00:05:06,204 --> 00:05:07,964 Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh that's. 112 00:05:07,844 --> 00:05:10,964 Speaker 5: A tough place to be because you want to connect 113 00:05:11,004 --> 00:05:13,644 Speaker 5: and and be friends with all the guys on the team, 114 00:05:13,684 --> 00:05:15,964 Speaker 5: but you also, yeah, have a job to do and 115 00:05:16,004 --> 00:05:17,684 Speaker 5: have some things to say when you need to say it. 116 00:05:18,204 --> 00:05:20,924 Speaker 5: So that's you're always trying to walk that that line. 117 00:05:21,644 --> 00:05:24,044 Speaker 5: And then sometimes you just don't have a lot to saying. 118 00:05:24,044 --> 00:05:26,964 Speaker 5: You wanna be by yourself, and you don't your social 119 00:05:26,964 --> 00:05:29,884 Speaker 5: battery is pretty low. Yeah, uh and so those are 120 00:05:29,884 --> 00:05:32,444 Speaker 5: a lot of things that I think about, critically, think 121 00:05:32,444 --> 00:05:36,364 Speaker 5: about a lot. It's certainly difficult. I try my best 122 00:05:36,684 --> 00:05:37,884 Speaker 5: and uh. 123 00:05:38,284 --> 00:05:39,084 Speaker 3: Pick my spots. 124 00:05:39,444 --> 00:05:41,644 Speaker 4: When the social battery is low, that's when you can 125 00:05:41,684 --> 00:05:43,804 Speaker 4: make mistakes. So you gotta really behind your game, I 126 00:05:43,804 --> 00:05:44,604 Speaker 4: would imagine. 127 00:05:44,884 --> 00:05:47,884 Speaker 5: Yeah, when that happens, I usually you don't You might 128 00:05:47,924 --> 00:05:49,924 Speaker 5: not hear from me for a couple of days a week. 129 00:05:50,284 --> 00:05:53,804 Speaker 5: But uh doesn't mean I don't care about the people 130 00:05:53,844 --> 00:05:56,084 Speaker 5: that I care out and that's certainly. 131 00:05:56,524 --> 00:05:59,244 Speaker 3: A difficult spot to be in. 132 00:05:59,524 --> 00:06:00,124 Speaker 2: Yeah. 133 00:06:00,164 --> 00:06:02,444 Speaker 5: The way that I am, the way that I talk, 134 00:06:02,484 --> 00:06:05,164 Speaker 5: and the way that I look can often come off 135 00:06:05,204 --> 00:06:09,044 Speaker 5: a certain way to people. And you know, if I'm excited, 136 00:06:09,044 --> 00:06:12,964 Speaker 5: if I'm sad, You're not necessarily always gonna know it. 137 00:06:13,084 --> 00:06:16,604 Speaker 5: So if something I've gone through this a lot of 138 00:06:16,644 --> 00:06:20,804 Speaker 5: different areas of my life, if something cool happens and 139 00:06:21,044 --> 00:06:24,244 Speaker 5: or I get rewarded, and yeah, I look like this, right, 140 00:06:24,284 --> 00:06:26,884 Speaker 5: And sometimes people were like, oh, you look. 141 00:06:26,804 --> 00:06:28,484 Speaker 3: So mad, and I was like, dude, I was pomped, 142 00:06:28,764 --> 00:06:29,044 Speaker 3: right Like. 143 00:06:30,764 --> 00:06:34,004 Speaker 5: That happened a couple times last year and multiple facets 144 00:06:34,004 --> 00:06:37,404 Speaker 5: in my life. Yeah, and that's something that I guess 145 00:06:37,484 --> 00:06:39,364 Speaker 5: is just part of it. 146 00:06:38,884 --> 00:06:41,604 Speaker 4: Is so interesting, you know, because you do have the 147 00:06:41,644 --> 00:06:45,004 Speaker 4: undrafted rookie free agent lineman and then you have Jamar. 148 00:06:45,444 --> 00:06:47,244 Speaker 2: And I look at you guys like you have this 149 00:06:47,284 --> 00:06:48,244 Speaker 2: football marriage. 150 00:06:48,564 --> 00:06:50,764 Speaker 4: You met in college, moved to the same city where 151 00:06:50,764 --> 00:06:53,964 Speaker 4: put the same company, parents get along. Yeah, how is 152 00:06:54,004 --> 00:06:56,244 Speaker 4: the marriage evolved over the years. 153 00:06:57,364 --> 00:07:03,364 Speaker 3: There's certainly probably less words exchanged on the day to 154 00:07:03,444 --> 00:07:05,684 Speaker 3: day now, m it's just cause we understand each other. 155 00:07:05,724 --> 00:07:09,524 Speaker 3: It's great. You know when you're just like a husband 156 00:07:09,524 --> 00:07:10,004 Speaker 3: and wife. 157 00:07:10,204 --> 00:07:12,524 Speaker 5: Once you understand each other and you're comfortable with each other, 158 00:07:12,564 --> 00:07:15,604 Speaker 5: you don't necessarily have to what's understood doesn't need to 159 00:07:15,604 --> 00:07:21,204 Speaker 5: be spoken, and I would say we have that relationship. Uh, 160 00:07:21,244 --> 00:07:25,964 Speaker 5: we still have intellectual conversations about football and different looks 161 00:07:26,004 --> 00:07:28,324 Speaker 5: on the day to day depending on you know, the 162 00:07:28,324 --> 00:07:30,524 Speaker 5: play that's in or the look that we expect of 163 00:07:30,564 --> 00:07:34,604 Speaker 5: the defense that we're playing. But the efficiency of communication 164 00:07:34,724 --> 00:07:38,964 Speaker 5: is so great now that, uh, there's not a lot 165 00:07:39,004 --> 00:07:40,764 Speaker 5: that needs to be said. We've seen all the looks, 166 00:07:40,884 --> 00:07:43,164 Speaker 5: we've run, all the routes, we've thrown, all the we've 167 00:07:43,204 --> 00:07:45,764 Speaker 5: had all the reps, so you can just recall something 168 00:07:45,844 --> 00:07:46,484 Speaker 5: quickly and be like. 169 00:07:46,484 --> 00:07:48,444 Speaker 3: Hey, you remember when we did it like that? I 170 00:07:48,564 --> 00:07:50,564 Speaker 3: do it like that, M boom, you got it. 171 00:07:50,764 --> 00:07:52,884 Speaker 5: Whereas you know, if you have a new receiver that 172 00:07:53,684 --> 00:07:57,044 Speaker 5: you haven't had all those conversations and reps and experiences 173 00:07:57,084 --> 00:07:59,484 Speaker 5: with the you might have to sit down with them 174 00:07:59,484 --> 00:08:03,444 Speaker 5: and explain exactly what you're looking at, asking what they're 175 00:08:03,444 --> 00:08:05,324 Speaker 5: thinking about, how do they wanna run in this look? 176 00:08:05,364 --> 00:08:06,164 Speaker 3: Where to where? 177 00:08:06,164 --> 00:08:09,044 Speaker 5: Can they expect the ball against Yeah, uh, certain leverage 178 00:08:09,084 --> 00:08:10,004 Speaker 5: or coverage. 179 00:08:09,604 --> 00:08:11,564 Speaker 3: And we don't have to do that anymore. 180 00:08:11,844 --> 00:08:14,364 Speaker 2: One part of a marriage, trust me. Do you guys fight? 181 00:08:14,404 --> 00:08:17,924 Speaker 3: You and Jamar, have we ever focked? 182 00:08:18,044 --> 00:08:20,684 Speaker 2: Did you get into it? You bicker, You're on each other, 183 00:08:20,804 --> 00:08:21,764 Speaker 2: you're pushing each other. 184 00:08:23,684 --> 00:08:28,084 Speaker 3: We certainly have been frustrated with each other. Do we 185 00:08:28,604 --> 00:08:30,764 Speaker 3: verbalize it? Not often? 186 00:08:30,924 --> 00:08:31,164 Speaker 2: Really? 187 00:08:32,204 --> 00:08:36,804 Speaker 5: Typically, if that happens, one of us knows that either 188 00:08:36,844 --> 00:08:39,204 Speaker 5: we didn't play the play the way we wanted to, 189 00:08:39,364 --> 00:08:41,684 Speaker 5: or I didn't throw it to him when I should 190 00:08:41,724 --> 00:08:45,284 Speaker 5: have or and usually it's just one of us is 191 00:08:45,324 --> 00:08:48,204 Speaker 5: really mad and the other ones it's frustrated that he's mad. 192 00:08:48,244 --> 00:08:50,164 Speaker 5: And then we see the clip and they're like, ah 193 00:08:50,244 --> 00:08:54,364 Speaker 5: my bad bro, and he's like yeah, or I'm like, yeah, 194 00:08:54,484 --> 00:08:55,244 Speaker 5: we gotta be better. 195 00:08:55,444 --> 00:08:56,244 Speaker 3: And that's about it. 196 00:08:56,804 --> 00:08:58,124 Speaker 2: I mean, I take it back. It's not like a 197 00:08:58,164 --> 00:08:59,844 Speaker 2: marriage at all. This is way better than any marriage. 198 00:08:59,884 --> 00:09:02,644 Speaker 2: But that was so healthy. What you just said is 199 00:09:02,724 --> 00:09:03,924 Speaker 2: amazing you. 200 00:09:04,084 --> 00:09:06,164 Speaker 4: Uh, I'm sure you've seen you've seen the The Last 201 00:09:06,284 --> 00:09:08,884 Speaker 4: Dance the Bulls Jordan documentary. We're gonna do the MJ 202 00:09:09,004 --> 00:09:11,324 Speaker 4: treatment with you because we're gonna give you an eyepine 203 00:09:11,404 --> 00:09:13,084 Speaker 4: way to watch a video. Okay, there's a video going 204 00:09:13,084 --> 00:09:14,764 Speaker 4: around right now that people are losing their minds about 205 00:09:14,764 --> 00:09:17,084 Speaker 4: in the NFL. You can press to play Joe and 206 00:09:17,244 --> 00:09:19,084 Speaker 4: just tell me what you think of this video, cause 207 00:09:19,124 --> 00:09:20,404 Speaker 4: a lot of people are watching it. 208 00:09:21,524 --> 00:09:22,484 Speaker 3: It's certainly a big hit. 209 00:09:24,404 --> 00:09:28,204 Speaker 5: That's football. That's football football Where I wanted to it 210 00:09:28,204 --> 00:09:29,044 Speaker 5: was pretty dang good throw. 211 00:09:29,164 --> 00:09:29,604 Speaker 3: Great throw. 212 00:09:30,124 --> 00:09:30,724 Speaker 2: That's football. 213 00:09:30,764 --> 00:09:31,604 Speaker 3: That's just casual feud. 214 00:09:31,644 --> 00:09:32,764 Speaker 2: That doesn't blow your hair back. 215 00:09:34,044 --> 00:09:35,924 Speaker 5: I mean, you don't feel much when you're out there. 216 00:09:36,604 --> 00:09:41,764 Speaker 5: That on specifically didn't hurt. Miles usually takes care of me. 217 00:09:41,804 --> 00:09:44,484 Speaker 5: He gets there and takes me to the ground, but 218 00:09:44,564 --> 00:09:46,644 Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily try to hurt me. 219 00:09:46,764 --> 00:09:47,364 Speaker 3: He's good like that. 220 00:09:47,524 --> 00:09:49,924 Speaker 5: Yeah, I love Miles. He's a good guy, great player. 221 00:09:50,324 --> 00:09:52,044 Speaker 5: Got a lot of respect for him. The ones I've 222 00:09:52,084 --> 00:09:56,284 Speaker 5: heard are the ones where they're falling on you or yeah, 223 00:09:56,964 --> 00:09:59,404 Speaker 5: that's really the only one that ever hurts you. 224 00:09:59,484 --> 00:09:59,964 Speaker 3: Amuse me. 225 00:10:00,004 --> 00:10:01,964 Speaker 4: In the Netflix series when you you grab one of 226 00:10:01,964 --> 00:10:04,844 Speaker 4: your lineman Kappa and you're like, hey, is all line fun? 227 00:10:05,924 --> 00:10:08,564 Speaker 2: I look at that clip? Is quarterback in the NFL? 228 00:10:08,804 --> 00:10:12,124 Speaker 3: Fun Depends on the day, Yeah, depends on the day. 229 00:10:12,124 --> 00:10:15,964 Speaker 5: I wouldn't say as you get older and more experienced, 230 00:10:16,444 --> 00:10:20,364 Speaker 5: I actively try to make myself have fun. 231 00:10:20,604 --> 00:10:23,204 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, try still trying to find the fun 232 00:10:23,244 --> 00:10:23,764 Speaker 3: in the game. 233 00:10:24,804 --> 00:10:29,244 Speaker 5: You know, part of football when you're younger is you know, 234 00:10:29,244 --> 00:10:31,684 Speaker 5: it's a lo a lot of new experiences. Every game 235 00:10:32,404 --> 00:10:37,404 Speaker 5: is new, every practice could be new. As you get older, it's, uh, 236 00:10:37,764 --> 00:10:40,364 Speaker 5: you've seen a lot, done a lot, experienced a lot, 237 00:10:40,444 --> 00:10:42,044 Speaker 5: and there's. 238 00:10:41,804 --> 00:10:44,164 Speaker 3: Not a lot of new that can be thrown at you. 239 00:10:44,404 --> 00:10:48,324 Speaker 5: Sure, and so I'm you actively try to find the 240 00:10:48,324 --> 00:10:50,324 Speaker 5: the joy and the fun on the day to day. 241 00:10:50,164 --> 00:10:52,084 Speaker 4: You talked earlier about it's it's can be difficult to 242 00:10:52,124 --> 00:10:53,364 Speaker 4: find people that you can relate to. 243 00:10:54,084 --> 00:10:56,404 Speaker 2: You're part of a club that really just has three. 244 00:10:56,204 --> 00:11:00,124 Speaker 4: Members, and it's it's you, and it's Lamar and it's Josh. 245 00:11:00,484 --> 00:11:04,684 Speaker 4: And the guys in the club are universally respected, liked, loved, deven, 246 00:11:05,444 --> 00:11:08,164 Speaker 4: But you guys seem to carry this burden with you 247 00:11:08,244 --> 00:11:10,044 Speaker 4: that no matter what you do and no matter what 248 00:11:10,044 --> 00:11:12,724 Speaker 4: you accomplish, like you have to bring home a Super 249 00:11:12,764 --> 00:11:16,084 Speaker 4: Bowl and it follows you everywhere. It's not like an award, 250 00:11:16,124 --> 00:11:19,204 Speaker 4: it's almost like this obligation. How do you deal with 251 00:11:19,244 --> 00:11:21,044 Speaker 4: that up here to. 252 00:11:21,044 --> 00:11:23,964 Speaker 3: Try to get better every day the same way. It 253 00:11:24,044 --> 00:11:27,364 Speaker 3: sounds cliche, but mm, it's how we all got to 254 00:11:27,764 --> 00:11:28,724 Speaker 3: where we're at right now. 255 00:11:29,764 --> 00:11:33,084 Speaker 5: And the only way that we're gonna keep improving is 256 00:11:33,124 --> 00:11:36,164 Speaker 5: if we attack every day with the same intensity that 257 00:11:36,204 --> 00:11:40,404 Speaker 5: we did five years ago to try to prove ourselves, 258 00:11:40,484 --> 00:11:43,804 Speaker 5: try to find that next edge in our game, to 259 00:11:43,844 --> 00:11:45,604 Speaker 5: take that little next step that you can take. 260 00:11:45,844 --> 00:11:48,324 Speaker 3: When you're at this level, there's always room to improve. 261 00:11:49,044 --> 00:11:51,884 Speaker 5: And you know, I've been through a lot in this 262 00:11:51,964 --> 00:11:57,124 Speaker 5: league with injuries, losses, wins, championships, losing championships, sure, and 263 00:11:57,164 --> 00:11:59,324 Speaker 5: then you just try to find ways to get better. 264 00:11:59,964 --> 00:12:02,044 Speaker 4: I showed you the play with Miles Garrett. I don't 265 00:12:02,084 --> 00:12:03,724 Speaker 4: have video for this play, but it's something that's been 266 00:12:03,724 --> 00:12:06,604 Speaker 4: around for you. There's cause not Myles Garrett's Aaron Donald 267 00:12:07,004 --> 00:12:10,444 Speaker 4: and it's Rams Bengals Sofi Stadium. It's fourth down, He 268 00:12:10,524 --> 00:12:13,404 Speaker 4: makes a play, calls a game. How often do you 269 00:12:13,444 --> 00:12:14,244 Speaker 4: think about that play? 270 00:12:15,244 --> 00:12:20,044 Speaker 3: More often than I'd like to, Yeah, more. 271 00:12:21,124 --> 00:12:23,404 Speaker 5: The further away that I'd get from it, I would say, 272 00:12:23,884 --> 00:12:25,724 Speaker 5: you know, that year was kind of a whirlwind. That 273 00:12:25,844 --> 00:12:27,964 Speaker 5: was really I played ten games on our rookie year 274 00:12:28,124 --> 00:12:31,484 Speaker 5: got hurt, and that was kind of my first full 275 00:12:31,524 --> 00:12:36,484 Speaker 5: season of playing, and things fall our way and we 276 00:12:36,564 --> 00:12:39,644 Speaker 5: end up in the super Bowl, and yeah, you you 277 00:12:39,724 --> 00:12:43,764 Speaker 5: wanna go and win the game and be Super Bowl champs. 278 00:12:44,084 --> 00:12:47,604 Speaker 5: But at the time, I was really excited to be there. Yeah, 279 00:12:47,924 --> 00:12:50,764 Speaker 5: really excited to be in the situation that we were 280 00:12:51,044 --> 00:12:52,844 Speaker 5: really excited that we had the season that we had. 281 00:12:52,884 --> 00:12:55,804 Speaker 5: And then as you get further and further away, it's like, dang, 282 00:12:56,524 --> 00:12:58,124 Speaker 5: you know, we had a big opportunity there that we 283 00:12:58,164 --> 00:13:01,204 Speaker 5: didn't quite take advantage of. Yeah, and that weighs on 284 00:13:01,244 --> 00:13:01,764 Speaker 5: you sometimes. 285 00:13:01,844 --> 00:13:02,204 Speaker 3: For sure. 286 00:13:02,644 --> 00:13:05,164 Speaker 4: We're gonna wrap this up to One of the things 287 00:13:05,164 --> 00:13:07,564 Speaker 4: I was talking to Josh about recently that was interesting 288 00:13:07,804 --> 00:13:12,604 Speaker 4: was the idea that in your draft folder, your mental 289 00:13:12,684 --> 00:13:15,684 Speaker 4: or motivational draft folder, you have a Super Bowl speech, 290 00:13:16,164 --> 00:13:19,484 Speaker 4: like something you would say on parade day through downtown Cincinnati. 291 00:13:19,524 --> 00:13:21,004 Speaker 2: Do you have that in your draft folder? 292 00:13:22,764 --> 00:13:27,204 Speaker 3: I would say you. I periodically think. 293 00:13:28,644 --> 00:13:33,244 Speaker 5: About how I would feel, what I would say, the 294 00:13:33,244 --> 00:13:37,484 Speaker 5: emotions that I would be feeling when I reach any 295 00:13:37,524 --> 00:13:39,244 Speaker 5: goal that I set out for myself. 296 00:13:39,324 --> 00:13:40,524 Speaker 2: MM. 297 00:13:40,604 --> 00:13:42,444 Speaker 5: I play through that in my head, just like I 298 00:13:42,484 --> 00:13:45,284 Speaker 5: play through the game in my head, just like I 299 00:13:45,324 --> 00:13:49,244 Speaker 5: play through m individual plays in my head. You can 300 00:13:49,244 --> 00:13:52,404 Speaker 5: see it, Yeah, I can see it, you can feel it, 301 00:13:52,724 --> 00:13:57,004 Speaker 5: you can experience it before it happens. That's usually more 302 00:13:57,044 --> 00:14:00,604 Speaker 5: of an off season kind of thought process, not a 303 00:14:00,684 --> 00:14:03,244 Speaker 5: lot of time during the season to to really think 304 00:14:03,244 --> 00:14:04,724 Speaker 5: about that until you get towards the end. 305 00:14:06,084 --> 00:14:07,604 Speaker 3: You've been through the. 306 00:14:07,564 --> 00:14:11,604 Speaker 5: Season, you know, play as well as you can, and 307 00:14:11,644 --> 00:14:15,804 Speaker 5: now you're at the prespice of something at the end 308 00:14:15,844 --> 00:14:18,844 Speaker 5: of the year, whether it's going on vacation or going 309 00:14:18,884 --> 00:14:21,164 Speaker 5: and trying trying to win a Super Bowl, so you 310 00:14:21,204 --> 00:14:22,124 Speaker 5: certainly think about it. 311 00:14:22,484 --> 00:14:24,804 Speaker 4: I started with the curve ball, last questions of fastball, 312 00:14:24,884 --> 00:14:26,564 Speaker 4: belt high right where you want it. 313 00:14:26,964 --> 00:14:29,964 Speaker 2: Marvel You're a Marvel guy. I'm way into it. 314 00:14:30,324 --> 00:14:34,044 Speaker 4: What Marvel character do you relate to? Do you maybe 315 00:14:34,084 --> 00:14:36,924 Speaker 4: see some of yourself in mm hmm? 316 00:14:37,924 --> 00:14:46,044 Speaker 3: Maybe iron Man? How come Tony? He's pretty straightforward. 317 00:14:46,484 --> 00:14:47,564 Speaker 2: I thought you're saying he's pretty. 318 00:14:49,604 --> 00:14:55,004 Speaker 5: He is pretty, but pretty straightforward to just the way 319 00:14:55,044 --> 00:14:59,844 Speaker 5: that he interacts, looks, talks. I feel like I'm a 320 00:14:59,884 --> 00:15:01,964 Speaker 5: pretty straightforward guy. 321 00:15:02,844 --> 00:15:03,004 Speaker 3: You know. 322 00:15:03,044 --> 00:15:05,284 Speaker 5: If I care about you, you're gonna know where you 323 00:15:05,324 --> 00:15:06,764 Speaker 5: stand with me. 324 00:15:06,884 --> 00:15:07,524 Speaker 3: For the most part. 325 00:15:07,964 --> 00:15:09,804 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow has a heart like Tony Stark. 326 00:15:09,924 --> 00:15:10,564 Speaker 3: Yeh heart? 327 00:15:11,164 --> 00:15:12,164 Speaker 2: Can I just tell you mine? 328 00:15:12,444 --> 00:15:12,764 Speaker 3: Sure? 329 00:15:13,484 --> 00:15:18,084 Speaker 4: I see fanos not the evil part, most powerful, most interesting, 330 00:15:18,164 --> 00:15:22,884 Speaker 4: most layered, fashionable, not afraid of color jewelry, but also 331 00:15:23,164 --> 00:15:25,644 Speaker 4: consumed with this thing that he wants to do and 332 00:15:25,724 --> 00:15:28,244 Speaker 4: he can't take a breath until it's finally done and 333 00:15:28,284 --> 00:15:29,004 Speaker 4: it's over. 334 00:15:28,844 --> 00:15:31,284 Speaker 2: And he can just chill in the garden. Do you 335 00:15:31,324 --> 00:15:31,924 Speaker 2: relate to that? 336 00:15:32,084 --> 00:15:32,284 Speaker 3: Yeah? 337 00:15:32,284 --> 00:15:35,204 Speaker 5: I can relate to that. Yeah, can certainly be the 338 00:15:35,204 --> 00:15:37,364 Speaker 5: way you described it for sure. Can be a little 339 00:15:37,364 --> 00:15:38,724 Speaker 5: exhausting sometimes. 340 00:15:38,364 --> 00:15:41,284 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it'd be nice to take those pads off, 341 00:15:41,324 --> 00:15:42,804 Speaker 4: hang that thing up and just sit. 342 00:15:42,644 --> 00:15:46,084 Speaker 3: There a certainly think about it sometimes. 343 00:15:46,164 --> 00:15:49,004 Speaker 2: I bet you do. I have to tell you this 344 00:15:49,124 --> 00:15:52,084 Speaker 2: wasn't tricky at all, not even at all. 345 00:15:52,204 --> 00:15:54,804 Speaker 4: You're super cool, You're very generous, and I just can't 346 00:15:54,804 --> 00:15:56,564 Speaker 4: thank you enough for doing this, Joe, thanks for having 347 00:15:56,684 --> 00:15:57,564 Speaker 4: awesome to see you, mane. 348 00:15:57,524 --> 00:15:57,924 Speaker 3: You think care? 349 00:15:58,564 --> 00:16:01,404 Speaker 1: Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in partnership 350 00:16:01,444 --> 00:16:05,004 Speaker 1: with I Heart Radio. For more iHeartRadio, go to the 351 00:16:05,044 --> 00:16:09,564 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, go to Apple go anywhere you like, It'll 352 00:16:09,604 --> 00:16:09,924 Speaker 1: be there.