1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: You know, we didn't play a lot of audio from 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: over the Big Beautiful Bill, but one that I haven't found. 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: I can't stand to hear her voice. So ramon, I'm 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: going to tell you when to play this, and can 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: you play fifteen seconds of audio something you know, simple man, 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: something nice, and then play her and just hit the 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: danger when you're done, and I'll come back in the 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: room because I just I can't bear to hear her 9 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: voice again. It's just such a screeching nap. I can't 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: I know people that are married to women like this. Ah, 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: can you imagine? So, Senator Pocahonta said, President Trump's Big 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: Beautiful Bill helps his billionaire friends at the expense of 13 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: the working class. Look, there are lots of things to 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: criticize the bill for, but that ain't one of them. 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: Or ramone, give me fifteen seconds to get to the restroom, 16 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: then you can play it and ding when you're done, 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: I'll come back. 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: These guys are actually out there making history by taking 19 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: away from hard working families, from people down on their luck, 20 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: from seniors, from little babies, so that a handful of 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: billionaires and corporate CEOs can get more giveaways from the government. 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: That is the Republican plan. Billionaires win, everyone else loses. 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: I happen to know a few billionaires, and let me 24 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: tell you something. None of them work for tips, none 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: of them get paid hourly, none of them work overtime. 26 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: Let me say something. Rich people don't get paid salaries. 27 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: If you are being paid a salary, you don't have wealth. 28 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: You might have some income. You're doing better than other 29 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: people if you've got a big one. But if you're 30 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: getting paid a salary or a bonus or anything of 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: the sort, you're being taxed at forty percent or close 32 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: enough to it. The rich have money, they don't get 33 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: a paycheck. They invested and they make money off of 34 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: those investments, and mostly they reinvest that because they don't 35 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: need the cash. And of what they make they pay 36 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: fifteen percent, not the forty percent. That's a capital gain. 37 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: It's a gain on their capital they've invested, so they 38 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: will spend their energy increasing the value of their capital, 39 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: usually the company that they own, and that company being 40 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: worth more. And then when they sell that that is 41 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: a capital gain. And when they realize that gain that 42 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: means hash it out to spend it. They only have 43 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: to pay fifteen percent of it. God, if you wanted 44 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: to change something, this was what Trump said. If you 45 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: wanted to change something, what you would change is capital 46 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: gains would be equal to the highest income tax bracket. 47 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: The minute you did that, you'd bring the income tax 48 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: bracket down because rich people would be really upset. Now, 49 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: rich people don't mind high income taxes. And this is 50 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: what nobody seems to understand. You know why they don't 51 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: mind income taxes. 52 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: They don't pay them. 53 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: They don't get income in the way that you do. 54 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: They don't get a W two or a ten ninety eight. 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: They earn capital games. There are wealthy people who in 56 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: a year will not pull out any capital gain. They 57 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: don't need to. You think about that, and what they 58 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: do they it's fifteen percent, drive it up to whatever 59 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: it is, thirty seven or forty percent, drive it up 60 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: with all everybody else what high earners are making. But 61 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: high earners are not influential people. Influential people the Warren 62 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: Buffets of the world. Those people live off capital gains, 63 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: not facts. Now they's Secretary Warren Buffett Buffett. Warren Buffett 64 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: loves to tell the story that he pays less percentage 65 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: in taxes than his secretary does Okay, there's a provision. 66 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: You can write a check to the government. You can 67 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: pay the same percentage of your income. His income is 68 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: off capital gains, not off the salary. Does that make 69 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: sense to folks? And by the way, everybody knows this. 70 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: When they talk about billionaires, they all know this. They talk, 71 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: we don't want millionaires and billionaire. If you cared about 72 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: millionaires and billionaires, all you would have to do is 73 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: is change the capital gains tax rate. But guess what, 74 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: Really rich people, billionaires favored Democrats more than Republicans. You 75 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: know why, because they're guilt ridden and they're all trying 76 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: to keep from having to lose their money to taxes. 77 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: Really rich people are so scared of losing their money. 78 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: You wouldn't believe how scared they are of losing their money. 79 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: They're more scared of losing their money than you are 80 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: losing what little bit you've got. And you're far more 81 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: likely to lose what little bit you've got than they 82 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: are to lose theirs. In fact, that whole point that 83 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about. Dave Chappelle explained why Donald Trump won 84 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: by what he said in the debate, and Chappelle is 85 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: dead on. Trump was straightforward on this. Hillary Clinton knows 86 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: exactly what the tax laws are and she chose to 87 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: never address it on purpose. 88 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 3: And I'm watching the news now that declaring the end 89 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 3: of the Trump era. Now, okay, I can see how 90 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: in New York you might believe this is the end 91 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: of his era. I'm just being honest with you. I 92 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: live in Ohio amongst the poor whites. A lot of 93 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: you don't understand why Trump was so popular, but I 94 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 3: get it because I hear it every day. He's very loved. 95 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 3: And the reason he's loved is because people in Ohio 96 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 3: have never seen somebody like him. He's what I call 97 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: an honestly on Well, I'm not joking right now, he's 98 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: an honest lier. That first debate, that first debate, I've 99 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 3: never seen anything like it. I've never seen a white 100 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 3: male billionaire screaming at the top of his lungs. This 101 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: whole system is wrented, he said, and across the stage 102 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: was a white woman, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama sitting 103 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 3: over looking at him, like, no, it's not I said, 104 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: Now wait a minute, bro, it's what he said, and 105 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: the moderator said, well, Trump, in fact, the system is rigged, 106 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: as he suggest, what would be your evidence? You remember 107 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: what he said, broke? He said, I know the system 108 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: is rigged because I use it. I said, damn. And 109 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: then he pulled out an Illuminati membership called choproline a 110 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: cocaine up and put it ride into Perta. No one 111 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: I ever heard someone say something that true. And then 112 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: Hillary cun tried to punch me into taxes. She said, 113 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: this man doesn't pay his taxes. He shot right back, 114 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: that makes me smart. And then he said, if you 115 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 3: want me to pay my taxes, then change the tax code. 116 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: But I know you won't because your friends and your 117 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: donors enjoy the same tax breaks that I do. And 118 00:06:55,120 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: with that, my friends, the star was born. No one 119 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: had ever seen anything like that. No one had ever 120 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 3: seen somebody come from inside of that house outside until 121 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: all the commons, we are doing everything that you think 122 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: we are doing inside of that house. They just want 123 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: right back in the house and start playing a game again. 124 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: Love Disney Productions, The Love Budd Stan Joe, this has 125 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: been race driver, Michael Barry, Funny Hacker. 126 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: That's Roman Duck. 127 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: King of Deans suggested for general audiences, My entire childhood 128 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: was marked with horrible, horrible allergies growing up in Orange 129 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: and many of you, I can only speak to Southeast Texas, 130 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: but many of you who grew up in this region 131 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: experienced the same thing. I had tubes not once, but 132 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: twice in my ear, which is basically a culvert, to 133 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: get some drainage out of there, and I had a 134 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: terrible procedure they no longer do called windows done. There 135 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: was a brief period of time around seventy nine or 136 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: eighty where they would go in and literally punch holes 137 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: in your cheekbones and try to create a culvert there, 138 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: the idea being, you know, you're kind of releasing the 139 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: dam and letting the snot out of there. It was 140 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: extremely painful recovery and it didn't work. And to this day, 141 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: when I have anytime scans are done on my face, 142 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: the doctors will go, ugh, you had windows Huh yes, 143 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: I did, uh yeah, And they don't want to tell me, 144 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: but then I tell them I know it was a 145 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: terrible procedure. So my entire childhood is marked by these terrible, 146 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: terrible allergies. You know, stopped up your eyes running. You know, 147 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: it's pollen season right now, those of you who know know, 148 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: and a lot of us do. 149 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: Well. 150 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: I meet my wife when I'm eighteen, she's twenty one. 151 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: She's just come from India, and she has no allergies, 152 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: and she can't understand why I'm constantly talking about allergies 153 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: and blowing my nose and everything else that goes with 154 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: this disgusting condition. And she has no allergies, and I'm jealous, 155 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: Well low and behold. Over the years, she does develop 156 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: some allergies, and unlike me, she does something about it. 157 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: So five years ago she discovered this doctor and then 158 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: Chris Colosso, and he came highly recommended, and he's a 159 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: superstar allergy doctor asthma doctor. So she goes to see him, 160 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: and you know, she does all the tests. Everybody's had 161 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: those tests done, but she probably had them like me 162 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: when you were a kid, and they're much better today. 163 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: And she comes home and tells me, you know, she's 164 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: allergic to dust mites, which are in a lot of beds. 165 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: So we we travel with our own sheets now, and 166 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: she's going to start taking these shots. And so she 167 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: takes those shots and it took about six months for 168 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: her to be completely allergy free and It was one 169 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: of those you know, before and after testimonials that you 170 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: don't really believe. You figure the person had to be compensated, 171 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: but I'm here to tell you it was true. So 172 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: she started in on me. This was five years ago, 173 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: so within four years, within a year, she just goes 174 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: for I think a monthly and she's the happiest person 175 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: in the world, and you need to go and I, 176 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a guy. You know, guys, you all 177 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: understand we'd rather bitch about it than do anything about it. 178 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: So eventually it got so bad and y'all had to 179 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: hear me go through this that in late October early November, 180 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: I caught an upper respiratory which I do about every 181 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: three years or so, I thought, and it was unbearable. 182 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: So I, about a month ago, I guess, go to 183 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: her doctor and I am already on a path to improvement, 184 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: and he identified a number of things for me that 185 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: I had no idea And I'm just impressed because I 186 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: like people. You know, my neurologist Mohit Kara, he geeks 187 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: out on eurological stuff. My cardiologist Stan Duckman, he geeks 188 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: out on doctor stuff. I like people who are passionate 189 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: about what they do the way Russell Lebarra is about 190 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: the functioning of his kitchen or the hiring of people. 191 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: So the more I talk to this guy, I was 192 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: really fascinated by his passion for this issue that affects 193 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people. And his clinic is called Advanced 194 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: Allergy and Asthmas. It's at the corner of Stella Link 195 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: Stella Lincoln Wesland are basically the same street, and Hulcomb 196 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: and bel Air are basically the same street that has 197 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: changed names. So Wesleyan and Hulcomb or Stella Lincoln, bel Air, 198 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: wherever you want to think about it, that's where they 199 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: are anyway. So we get to talking about these allergies 200 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: and what causes them and all this stuff. And I thought, 201 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm fifty four, relatively well read. I ask a lot 202 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: of questions and I learned things from him in just 203 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: a few meetings that I had no idea about. And 204 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: I said, well, let's share that on the air Moon. 205 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna need you to pay attention. Okay, there'll 206 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: be a quiz at the end. Doctor Chris Colosso is 207 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: his name Colac. Don't try to make sense of it. 208 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: It's a Portuguese name, is our guest. Let's start with 209 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: this doctor Chris Colosso article in the Chronicle a few 210 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: days ago that said, it is pollen season and it's 211 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: a bad season. What does that mean for people? Why 212 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: does that cause us so many problems when it's pollen season. 213 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: Explain it to me like I'm six years old. 214 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 4: All right, Michael, thank you for having me on the shelf. 215 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 4: And so, and you'll start at the beginning. And so, 216 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 4: an allergy is an abnormal response to something that's not 217 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 4: really harmful to you. And so the body, depending on 218 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 4: your genetics or your environment, decides that it's going to 219 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: mount this immune response to something. And then it every 220 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 4: time you get exposed to that, the body decides, hey, 221 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 4: this thing is it affecting me? And I'm going to 222 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 4: fight it. And so that's what they gets allergy. And 223 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 4: so pollen, you know, is ubiquitous and all you know, 224 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 4: Houston has the right amount of humidity and high levels 225 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 4: of pollen that you know, most people tend to have 226 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 4: some level of rhiniis or running nose and ocular symptoms 227 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 4: that means drainage from your eyes and those kinds of things. 228 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 4: When pollen is very high, and so that's that's your 229 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 4: introduction to having our Now most of us, you know, 230 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 4: have a certain level of resilience and that you have 231 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 4: those symptoms and sometimes it's for a day or two 232 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 4: and then you slowly get better. But what happens with 233 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 4: allergy is that it's considered an a topic march. And 234 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 4: so if you start off with one or two things, 235 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 4: and you know, we'll just make up a random amount, 236 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 4: you make one hundred histamine molecules, and histamine is the 237 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 4: chemical that your body secretes. It causes you to have 238 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 4: the itching and the sneezing and the eye itching and 239 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 4: the drainage and post nasal drip and all that kind 240 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 4: of stuff. And you know, the first year, you may 241 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 4: make one hundred histamine molecules, and you know, you can 242 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: take a n antihistamine and you do better. And then 243 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 4: you know, with the natural course of the disease, what 244 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 4: happens the following year is you make even more and 245 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 4: you become allergic to more things. And so once you 246 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 4: get on that pathway of this abnormal immune response to 247 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 4: something that's harmless, the body just you know, goes down 248 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 4: the pathway and starts reacting to different pollens, to dust, 249 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 4: to animal veandor to foods, and that's how allarity is. 250 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 4: And so most people within the next week or two, 251 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 4: if you and those who know, no, you're going to 252 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 4: get miserable because once you start seeing you know, I've 253 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 4: just noticed, oh the leaves are already falling. Once that starts, 254 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 4: the oak pollen is going to start. And so most 255 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 4: everyone in Houston knows when you start seeing a little 256 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 4: bit of that yellow stuff on your car, you're going 257 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: to get kind of miserable. And so that's what's coming. 258 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 4: And so as you know, over the years, what you 259 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 4: see and most people may you know, have some idea 260 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 4: with this, is that the symptoms initially started, you know, 261 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 4: and they're not so bad, and then the following year 262 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 4: it gets worse, and it gets worse, and then finally 263 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 4: you get to where you're using multiple different medicines in 264 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 4: this and you're still miserable. And so what Ryan Itidas 265 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 4: does is you have all these secretions in your nose 266 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 4: and they have to go somewhere. And so, like you 267 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: know what Michael was saying with in his case, in 268 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: the old days, they had thought, hey, we'll just cut 269 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 4: out this path and that will help everything drain and 270 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 4: then you'll be better. 271 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: Doctor Chris Colosso, Old rut there, old rut there. Our 272 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: guest is doctor Chris Glosso. He's an allergy and asthma specialist. 273 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: He's now my doctor. He's been my wife's doctor in 274 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: a very good one. We'll continue our conversation with him 275 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: right in the middle of Polas coming up. 276 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: Michael Mary d. 277 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: Chris Colosso is our guest. He is my new allergy doctor. 278 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: He has been my wife's doctor for five years and 279 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: proofs in the pudding. She has had phenomenal results. So 280 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: all of the problems she had with allergies are gone 281 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: and we are very grateful for it. His his shop 282 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: that he is the head of is Advanced Allergy and 283 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: Asthma Center, which is over at Wesleyan and Hulcombe you 284 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: know where that is, just south of West University. Doctor 285 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: Chris Glosso. Let me take you back from you said 286 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: that when this pollen comes out, even if we take 287 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: an anahistamine, which which dulls down our natural reaction. But 288 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: you talked about the symptoms of of what happens the result, 289 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: and that's that's not that's the eyes watering. That's why 290 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: is the body doing that. 291 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 4: So the so through evolution allergy initia and I know 292 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 4: there's caveats to this, and you know, the immune system, 293 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 4: the part that's responsible for allergy, they used to think 294 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 4: used to be directed towards parasites, and so that part 295 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 4: of the immune system used to be very active little 296 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 4: against parasites and you know those kinds of pathogens. In 297 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 4: most of the developed world, we don't have that much 298 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: parasites to deal with. And so a simple way to 299 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 4: think about it is this, through evolution, this part of 300 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 4: the immune system that was functioning so well to take 301 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 4: care of parasites now sort of has nothing to react to, 302 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 4: and so it starts going down this pathway to find 303 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 4: something to do, if you will. And that's a simplistic 304 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 4: way of looking at it. But now it starts reacting 305 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 4: to allergens and so it once it gets on that path, 306 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 4: it it's sort of thinks that it's protecting you against 307 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: this stuff when this stuff is not really. 308 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: And how is I don't understand the purpose of the 309 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: mute because how is it it forming all this snot? 310 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: How is that ever going to help me? 311 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's when you have a lot of 312 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 4: that snot and it's draining out in that kind of thing, 313 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 4: it's it's you know, you've probably not when you're very congested, 314 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 4: you can't breathe, you probably won't get much pollen in there. 315 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 4: And so it's not even a good response, but it's 316 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 4: just the way the body is reacting to it. 317 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: Well, no, but that makes actual sense because that would 318 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: reduce the amount of pollen that you would continue to get. 319 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: It never crossed my mind. So what we're doing now, 320 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: go ahead. 321 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 4: So sometimes when people say, oh, I had fine and 322 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 4: surgery and now they trim my terminents and open me 323 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 4: up and now I can get all this stuff, and 324 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 4: then I feel like it's you know, still making me miserable. 325 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 4: And that's where where it's all open now. And you know, 326 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 4: so it doesn't change the Surgery's not going to change 327 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 4: your immune system. 328 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: So what is the answer. And you've got to get 329 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: your immune system to stop reacting in this manner. 330 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 4: Correct And so one of the things that you know 331 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 4: allergies do, or you know that that you're I did right, 332 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: And we're jumping the gun here, so we're saying, oh, 333 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that everyone needs shots or something like that. 334 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 4: But if you look at that, what allergy shots and 335 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 4: they've been around for one hundred years, and what allergy 336 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 4: shots is is to try and teach the immune system, 337 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 4: if you will, to not react to what you're allergic to. 338 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 4: And so what we do is you make these you know, 339 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 4: these x racts, which are basically has you know exactly 340 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 4: what you're allergic to, and you give it back to 341 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 4: the patient. Now, you couldn't possibly give them the full 342 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 4: strength shot or you'd kill them because they'd have a 343 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: whole body allergic reaction to the shot. And so what 344 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 4: you do is you deluded down one hundred thousand fold 345 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 4: and you give it back to the patient and in 346 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 4: slow incremental doses. And so in that way, you're slowly 347 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 4: introducing the allergen to the body. And what that does 348 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 4: over a period of time is that it starts generating 349 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 4: these cells in the body called T suppress ourselves, and 350 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 4: these T suppress ourselves suppress the immune response to whatever 351 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 4: is in the allergy, to whatever is in the shot. 352 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 4: And so that is why in patients who've done immunotherapy 353 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 4: and those kinds of things, they don't react as strongly. 354 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 4: So when your body sees the pollen the next pollen 355 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 4: season and you've been on shots, it doesn't react as 356 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 4: strongly to the shot to the pollen. And and so, 357 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 4: you know, medications treat symptoms, they don't do anything for 358 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: the problem. So the problem sort of festers along in 359 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 4: the background. And and that's why, you know, when we 360 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 4: talked about me and you, you know, I was like, hey, 361 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: you know during pollen season, and I do this too, 362 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 4: if I go run around rice. I mean, this is 363 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 4: you know, I try not to do the loop during 364 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 4: oak season, but if I do run around it, I 365 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 4: sometimes have, you know, mild symptoms. I immediately do a 366 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 4: sinus rints and clean out all that pollen so it's 367 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 4: not sitting in my airway in my nasal passage making 368 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 4: me horrible. And that way you just physically do better. 369 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 4: But what allergy shops is to try and tell the body, hey, 370 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 4: stop reacting to this, you know. And so it's trying 371 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 4: to put a hold on your body going down this 372 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 4: wrong pathway of reacting to something that's harmless. 373 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: Mary Telly Boden has become nationally famous for the fact 374 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: that she criticized the COVID protocols and all those but 375 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: before she was famous, and just as that was beginning 376 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: to happen, I had her on the show to talk 377 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: about a sinus rents because I had seen her. She 378 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: had a handle like doctor snot sucker or something something 379 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: funny like that. And she made post videos of doing 380 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: these sinus rinses and she was a big fan of 381 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: But my wife does it. I don't do it as often. 382 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: I know I should. I'm just irregular. My wife does 383 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: it frequently. But on that point, I know Mary taly 384 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: Boden is a huge fan of that. And it sounds 385 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: like you are as well I am. 386 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 4: And so you know, there's so all of the sinus 387 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 4: rinses come from this. So in yoga one hundred years ago, 388 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 4: so in India they know there's a thing called nati 389 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 4: and actually the netty pop comes from nathi, which is 390 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 4: a term in yoga of where you rinse out the 391 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 4: naval passages. And they knew a long time ago that 392 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 4: for whatever reason, if there was inflammation in the nose, 393 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 4: the chest would do bad. And so in patients who 394 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 4: have asthma, and this is you know, a long time 395 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 4: ago in India, they rinsed the nose out and no 396 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 4: one knows if he knew why. Over the last fifteen 397 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 4: to twenty years, we've started to find out that it's 398 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 4: considered the single airway hypothesis, and so if there's inflammation 399 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 4: in one part of the airway, that inflammation will irritate 400 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 4: the whole airway. And so the nose is connected, you know, 401 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 4: to the lungs, and so a lot of people will 402 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 4: experience this when they have sometimes bad sinus infections and 403 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 4: upper restor infections, then they'll have wheezing in those kinds 404 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 4: of things. And that's where you know, physically cleaning out 405 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 4: all that mucus helps. And the other thing that you know, 406 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 4: these rinses do is physically clean out the pollen or 407 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 4: the dust might or whatever, so the antigen is not 408 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 4: just sitting in there, you know, keeping the immune reaction going. 409 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: Hold with me for just a doctor. Chris Colasso. He's 410 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: at Advance Allergy and Asthma Center, which is Wesleyan and Holcombe. 411 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: He's he's we have had great. He needs out you 412 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: hear him sneeze, he needs uh. He is our guest. 413 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: He's done great for my wife. I've started with him 414 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: and I really like his ability to explain these things, 415 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: and we will continue having him do that in the 416 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: middle of pollen season coming. 417 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 2: Hell, yes, we're gonna take your ar fifteen bet Opaedo 418 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: the Michael Very Show. 419 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 3: Hell, Yes, yes, yes, yes. 420 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: Doctor Chris Colosso is our guest Advanced Allergy and Asthma Center. 421 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: If you can't remember his name or the location, you 422 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: can email me. He is not a show sponsor yet. 423 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: He doesn't know he's going to be. But he's not 424 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: a show sponsor yet. But I will still forward you 425 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: or Emily will forward you to their phone numbers so 426 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: that you can call and get an appointment if you 427 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: want to go have the test done, or you want 428 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: to go see him for a consultation, so that you 429 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: can connect with him. I'm a big fan because he's 430 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: made my wife very healthy and very happy, and that 431 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: makes me very happy. So doctor Colosso, let's go back to. 432 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 3: You. 433 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: Uh, you first put my wife on Zyrtec, and we 434 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: hear a lot about zertech. Now it's over the counter, 435 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: and Zyrtec basically suppresses the body's desire to overreact to 436 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: this pollen we see out there all the time. Now, 437 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: can you talk through the history of that drug? And 438 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: how that has affected your practice. 439 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 4: Zyrtec is an antihistamine, and so initially, you know, when 440 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 4: Zyrtec first came out, it was prescription and so you know, 441 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 4: you couldn't get zyrtec unless you went to the doctor, 442 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 4: you went to the allergist. And so, you know, there's 443 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 4: a couple of things that the or moving the medicine 444 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 4: over the counter has done to the practice of allergy 445 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,239 Speaker 4: for us. And it's it's just interesting to see. And 446 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 4: so when you have a lot of histamine around and 447 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 4: you feel miserable and you have drainage and congestion and 448 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 4: you're itching and all that kind of stuff, and you 449 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 4: would have to go to the doctor, and a lot 450 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 4: of times the alogists would say, hey, let's see what 451 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 4: you're allergic to, and they do testing and you know, 452 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 4: find one or two things that was positive and then 453 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 4: sometimes you know, either start you on treatment for that 454 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 4: or do avoidance measures of those kind of things. But 455 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 4: as these drugs have gone, you know, over the counter, 456 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: initially we were thought, oh, there's going to be no 457 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 4: need for allergists, but in fact, what we've seen is 458 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 4: that we now tend to pick up patients who are 459 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 4: a lot more serious. So if there was no zertech 460 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 4: when you know, you first start having allergy, and let's 461 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 4: say you're just allergic to dust mites, I'll just use 462 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 4: that as an example, then you know, we would see 463 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 4: the patient and sometimes if they'd get on shots for 464 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 4: dusk mate, then they'd do a lot better. But now 465 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 4: with zert being over the counter, so let's say you 466 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 4: have a mild des smile allergy and then you start 467 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 4: having springtime seas and then you take zyrtech. Zyrtech blocks 468 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 4: hist meine, but it's not aligning, it's not doing anything 469 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 4: or not doing much because the allergy process of you know, 470 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 4: developing allergies to stuff is still going on. And so 471 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 4: what happens is then as long as that zyrtec can 472 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 4: keep blocking the amount of his being released, you'll be okay. 473 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 4: And then you start doing a nose spray for allergy, 474 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 4: and that's over the counter, and in the background, you're 475 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 4: you're you know, developing not in all cases, but in 476 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 4: a lot of cases you're developing more allergy. And so 477 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 4: then what happens is the person, you know, it's almost rare, 478 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 4: almost never that I see a patient who's not tried 479 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 4: zyrtec before or tried nose sprays now or those kind 480 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 4: of things. And so while the zyrtech is helping you, 481 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 4: you know, do okay or control your symptoms, if the 482 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 4: allergy is going on in the background, then you're developing 483 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 4: you know, more allergy. And so it's not atypical for 484 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 4: me to see a patient who has now multiple things 485 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 4: that they're allergic to. So, you know, as in Michael's case, 486 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 4: and since you know we're talking about this, it's it 487 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 4: can be multiple trees and grasses in those kinds of things. 488 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 4: And so in so what we tend to do we say, 489 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 4: you know, as allergies, see patients who are a lot 490 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 4: further along in the allergic process as opposed to you know, 491 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 4: when xerotec and those kind of drugs were prescription based, 492 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 4: because you would just end up seeing the patient earlier. 493 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: But what does that mean, you know that farther along 494 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: are your allergies getting worse through time? Is that it's 495 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: not just here's there. 496 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 4: That's exactly right, and how are they getting worse? And 497 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 4: so okay, so that's a very good question. So, and 498 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 4: it's a little bit technical, but in the body, you 499 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 4: have these these chemicals floating around called inter lukens, and 500 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 4: inter lukens sometimes will play a key role. Is if 501 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 4: if you have if you're exposed to analogy and or 502 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 4: you know, let's say we'll just we'll just make up something. 503 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 4: Let's say you're allergic to oak pollen. And when you're 504 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 4: allergic to oak pollen or you have bad allergies, you 505 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 4: have these chemicals flowing around. And then there's many different 506 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 4: numbers of chemicals, but you'll pick the ones important analogy, 507 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 4: and so you have high levels of aisle four, aisle five, 508 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 4: and asle thirteen. Now, when you get exposed to a 509 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 4: pollen in the presence of high if there's a lot 510 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 4: of aisle four, aisle five, aisle thirteen, you're more likely 511 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 4: to make an allergic antibody to it, and so they're 512 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 4: not you know, there's studies that have done that showed this. 513 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 4: Let's say you take a person who's allergic to oak, 514 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 4: and during oak season, you expose them to pecan pollen. 515 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 4: And in another chamber, you take someone who's not allergic 516 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 4: to oak, and you expose them to pecon pollen. And 517 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 4: then three months later you go back and you go 518 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 4: and check the blood and see who has an allergic 519 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 4: antibody to pecan. And interestingly, the person who was allergic 520 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 4: to oak is now allergic to oak and pecon, whereas 521 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 4: the one who wasn't allergic to oak isn't, you know, 522 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 4: necessarily allergic to con. And so allergy tends to beget allergy. 523 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 4: And so that's why that cycle just seems to you know, 524 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 4: once it starts, you tend to start going down that pathway. 525 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 4: And so that is why that is what I meant 526 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 4: is that when we know now see patients who've been 527 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 4: using over the kind of medicines they are already then 528 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 4: tend to be allergic to multiple different things, whereas before 529 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 4: those ween those medications of prescription, you would see those 530 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 4: patients a lot earlier on the disease process. 531 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's interesting because living where we live, and 532 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: having lived here my entire life, with only some brief 533 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: periods of living away, it's something that we grow accustomed to. 534 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: My mother had terrible, terrible allergies, My brother had pretty 535 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: bad allergies, and mine are not as bad as my 536 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: mother's were, but pretty bad. So it's almost something we 537 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: grow accustomed to. And so watching my wife's recovery or 538 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,239 Speaker 1: healing or improvement, whatever you want to call it. I 539 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: almost didn't believe that there was anything that could be 540 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: done that could possibly make my life so much better. 541 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: But when I saw it with her, I said, my goodness, 542 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: that is especially with this, you know, three months of 543 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: just horrible and it was affecting my ability to do 544 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: the show. I said, Okay, I'm willing to spend the 545 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: actual time to go and get something done about this. 546 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: Hold with us for just a moment. Chris Colosso is 547 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: our guest. That is spelled the LAC. If you want 548 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 1: to go see him, it is Advanced Allergy and Asthma Center. 549 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: It's on Grammercy Street, which is over kind of near 550 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: Rice University. You could say a little south of West 551 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: University if you know where that is. And otherwise you 552 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: can email me and I will connect you with their website. 553 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: If you want to go make an appointment. 554 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: To see him. 555 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: More of doctor Chris Colosso. In the middle of pollen season, 556 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: as we are, blow your nose and we'll have more 557 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: come up.