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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stinchfield tonight. I'm Bo Davidson filling in for

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Speaker 1: Grant tonight. Thank you so much for watching well. This

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Speaker 1: past weekend, I along with a number of my colleagues

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Speaker 1: here at Real America's Voice, covered Turning Point ussa's America

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Speaker 1: Fest out in Phoenix, Arizona. Now, typically this is Turning

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Speaker 1: Point's biggest event where they bring out the big names,

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Speaker 1: even Donald Trump spoke actually last year. But this year

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Speaker 1: had a different tenor to the festival because their leader

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Speaker 1: and founder, Charlie Kirk, was assassinated on September tenth while

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Speaker 1: speaking at a Utah college. The alleged assassin was Tyler Robinson,

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Speaker 1: who used his grandfather's rifle to shoot Charlie without anyone

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Speaker 1: seeming to notice. This was a huge blow. It was

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Speaker 1: surreal in many ways. It was a JFK moment for

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Speaker 1: this generation. Charlie Kirk was a John F. Kennedy to

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Speaker 1: this generation. He spoke a message of positivity and optimism

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Speaker 1: and would go to these college campuses and merely say

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Speaker 1: prove me wrong. He invited everyone to ask questions and

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Speaker 1: create a dialogue. Now, some of those topics were indeed controversial,

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Speaker 1: especially about gender identity and transgenderism. But at the core

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Speaker 1: of Charlie's message was questioning things, being able to have

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Speaker 1: an open dialogue, exactly as the framers of our constitution intended.

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Speaker 1: And in the end it's what got him killed, not

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Speaker 1: for inflammatory rhetoric or a monologue, but rather a dialogue.

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Speaker 1: And it was Charlie Kirk who helped Donald Trump get elected.

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Speaker 1: He saw the stage, he knew the stakes, and not

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Speaker 1: only was he pivotal in getting gen Z to vote

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Speaker 1: for Trump, he was pivotal in the transition team vetting

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Speaker 1: potential placements in this current administration. I first met Charlie

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Speaker 1: Amfest and interviewed him about what celebrity whose mind he

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Speaker 1: would like to change the most if he could. His

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Speaker 1: answer was actually clairvoyant. It was Elon Musk and I'll

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Speaker 1: never forget that interview. So for this particular Amfest, it

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Speaker 1: was without Charlie for the first time, and it was

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Speaker 1: led by his widow, Erica Kirk, And I don't know

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Speaker 1: if if we could have known, but right out of

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Speaker 1: the gate the stage was set with some inner turmoil

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Speaker 1: with Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson trading barbes at each

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Speaker 1: other on Thursday night. What I thought might be a

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Speaker 1: unifying message opened up pretty divisively. Let's take a look

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Speaker 1: at how Ben Shapiro addressed the Amfest crowd.

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Speaker 2: Friendship with the person accusing TPUSA of a cover up

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Speaker 2: of Charlie's murder is no excuse for cowardice. Third, and relatedly,

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Speaker 2: we have a duty to take responsibility for what we

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Speaker 2: That means that if we offer a guest for your viewing,

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Speaker 2: we owe it to you to ask the kinds of

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Speaker 2: questions that actually get at the truth. If we agree

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Speaker 2: with the guests, that's fine, but we should own it. So,

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Speaker 2: for example, if you host a Hitler apologist, Nazi loving

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Speaker 2: anti American piece of refuse like Nick Flentes, you know

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Speaker 2: the Nick Flentes who said that the Vice President of

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Speaker 2: the United States is a quote fat gay race trader

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Speaker 2: married to a jeet. The person who said that Charlie

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Speaker 2: Kirk was a quote idiot. The person who said, and

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Speaker 2: pardon my language here, it's his quote that he quotes

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Speaker 2: took turning Point USA, and that's why it's filled with Graper's.

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Speaker 2: If you have that person on your show and you

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Speaker 2: proceed to glaze him, you ought to own it. There

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Speaker 2: is a reason that Charlie Kirk despised at Nick Flantes

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Speaker 2: knew that Nick Flentes is in evil troll and that

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Speaker 2: building him up is an act of moral imbecility. And

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Speaker 2: that is precisely what Tucker Carlson did. He built Nick

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Speaker 2: Fuentes up, and he ought to take responsibility for that,

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Speaker 2: just as he ought to take responsibility for glazing an

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Speaker 2: alleged tex trafficker Andrew Tate, or for mainstreaming fake historian

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Speaker 2: most honest popular historian. Hosts are indeed responsible for the

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, now, once these shots were fired, Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 1: took the stage later that very night, and as Tucker

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Speaker 3: Take a look, and.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying everyone who disagrees with me is on

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Speaker 4: the side of evil. I don't think that I think

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Speaker 4: I'm often wrong. I know that I am, But I

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Speaker 4: do think that fundamentally this is light versus darkness. I do,

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Speaker 4: and darkness is characterized by rage and division and chaos

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Speaker 5: And I've noticed this.

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Speaker 4: There are attempts to make people hateful. One of the

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Speaker 4: reasons people scream insults in your face is to provoke

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Speaker 4: what they call you. Why Because evil feeds on hate.

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Speaker 5: That's why.

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Speaker 4: So don't participate in that. And the way that I

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Speaker 4: try to keep myself from becoming what they say I

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Speaker 4: am is by remembering that I am, on the most

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Speaker 4: basic level, no better than my persecutors. I am no

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Speaker 4: better than my persecutors, and that's why I'm commanded to

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Speaker 4: pray for them, because we have all fallen short of

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Speaker 4: Jesus period, and I'm reminded that every day in the

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Speaker 4: structure of the Lord's Prayer, where we first are told

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Speaker 4: by Jesus to ask for forgiveness for our sins before

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Speaker 4: we start diagnosing the plank in our neighbors or in

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Speaker 4: the speck in our neighbor's side.

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Speaker 5: The whole thing begins with I'm a pompous douchebag. I'll

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Speaker 5: admit it. That's essential.

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Speaker 4: It's essential. We are called to be righteous, but not

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Speaker 4: self righteous, and we're also called, and I have to

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Speaker 4: say this before opening it up to your hostile questions.

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Speaker 3: We should also be very on.

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Speaker 4: Guard against people who try to leverage the word of God,

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Speaker 4: the words of Jesus for political ends.

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Speaker 1: Well, and even Meghan Kelly jumped into the fray, but

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Speaker 1: in a much more subtle and subdued way as she

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Speaker 1: took the stage in a chat with Jack Pisovic. I

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Speaker 1: actually liked what Meghan had to say, because Meghan sees

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Speaker 1: things from a three hundred and sixty degree and thirty

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Speaker 1: thousand foot perspective. Ironically, a special guest was announced and

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Speaker 1: somehow I guessed it would be rapper Nicki Minaj. Now

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Speaker 1: I only guessed this because of some tweets that she

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Speaker 1: and then Nicky seemed to express favor for Vance over

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Speaker 1: newsom so on Sunday, it was actually Nicki Minaje who

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Speaker 3: Vance spoke. Let's listen to what she had to say.

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Speaker 6: I'm proud of you guys. This is a major to

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Speaker 6: be so young, for you guys that are in college,

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Speaker 6: to be so young and to care this much this

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Speaker 6: and it tells us that there's hope for our future.

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Speaker 6: So God bless you. Congratulations, you guys, You're amazing. Congratulations,

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Speaker 6: you guys are amazing.

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Speaker 7: Okay, know it, feel it.

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Speaker 1: So you had this stage set for infighting, really, and

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Speaker 1: even Rabs owned Steve Bannon jumped in the fray and

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Speaker 1: America Fest had almost become a proxy war for America

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Speaker 1: First or Israel First. Now, for many in the Amfest

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Speaker 1: and conservative world, this infighting was a nasty distraction. Liberals

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Speaker 1: my personal favorite politicians, Congressman Byron Donald's, spoke very eloquently

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Speaker 1: and frankly about what playground fighting does. It just makes

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Speaker 1: him on the final day of Amfest, and here's what

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Speaker 1: he had to say. Cottressman, I watched your speech and

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Speaker 1: I just love how Frank you always speak to people.

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Speaker 1: One thing you said that I'd love for you to

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Speaker 1: touch on is you said it's easy to cut someone down,

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Speaker 1: to have a spirit of love and unity, especially for

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Speaker 8: It's real simple. Do you want to win or you

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Speaker 8: want to act like you're right? See I choose victory.

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Speaker 8: If you're victorious, you get to continue those debates on

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Speaker 8: some of the site disagreements that are within the conservative movement.

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Speaker 8: Let's be honest, there are slight disagreements. That's part of

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Speaker 9: It's never changed.

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Speaker 8: But if all we do is try to find ways

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Speaker 9: I've been in this fifteen years.

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Speaker 8: Like I said on stage, tea Party movement, State House,

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Speaker 8: the sake of owning them, Because even when we were

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Speaker 8: spending a lot of time owning the Libs. That was

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Speaker 8: great for a time. But what really matters is winning.

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Speaker 8: What really matters is institutionalizing an agenda. Not just getting

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Speaker 8: one hundred likes or five hundred likes or a thousand

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Speaker 8: might make you feel good, There is no substitute for victory.

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Speaker 9: That's what I believe.

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Speaker 5: In admit of that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know one of the things you said up there,

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Speaker 10: and we're just talking about this, we won. President Trump's

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Speaker 10: President Trump's passing a lot of executive orders. But my

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Speaker 10: big concern is twenty twenty six, we got the Democrats

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Speaker 10: coming and we're talking about the filibuster. Tell me about

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Speaker 10: the significance the importance of ending that now, to codify

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Speaker 8: Well, look, Tom Holman was on stage before I was.

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Speaker 8: Everything that the President has done has secured this nation,

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Speaker 8: which is what the American people want, That's what they

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Speaker 8: it through the US Senate. Name me a Democrat senator

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Speaker 8: that's going to vote for Donald Trump's border procedures. They

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Speaker 8: blow up the filibuster? Well, guess what, they're gone. Cinema

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Speaker 8: was replaced by a radical. So now the situation is,

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Speaker 8: how do you institutionalize your agenda.

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Speaker 9: You do that, you get rid.

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Speaker 8: Of the filibuster, You pass all of the executive orders,

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Speaker 8: you pass the other pieces of policy that are necessary,

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Speaker 8: and Congress actually provides real solutions that people Americans now

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Speaker 9: And we've gotten some of it done. I'm not saying

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Speaker 8: But if you get all of your work done, then

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Speaker 8: now you have something to run on, and now you

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Speaker 8: they get to decide do I want these set of

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Speaker 8: we're destructive of the nation. I think we got to

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Speaker 8: get real about where we are. The Democrats are going

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Speaker 8: to blow it up when they come back. And last

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Speaker 8: thing I'll say, last thing I'll say, the purpose of

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Speaker 8: majorities is to pass your agenda. That's the purpose of majorities.

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Speaker 8: The purpose of majorities is not to keep majorities. And

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Speaker 8: this is the thing that frustrates me with Washington because

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Speaker 8: so much of it is, well, we got to keep

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Speaker 9: Well, we got to keep the majority. Well we got

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Speaker 9: to keep the majority.

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Speaker 8: But to what end majorities are for accomplishing and passing

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Speaker 1: So you see, there Byron recognizes that the young people

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Speaker 11: Hey Poba, good to see him, man, long time.

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Speaker 3: Neil, I want to ask you this.

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Speaker 1: I hadn't thought of this really until now, but I

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Speaker 1: I just think that some of those issues, like you said,

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Speaker 1: Hope you enjoy this interview with Gloria Gaynor. Gloria, I

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Speaker 12: record at that time. I was interested in jazz music

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Speaker 12: and that was what I wanted to record. Clive Davis

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Speaker 12: had that song written for me by Mervin and Marvin Steel,

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Speaker 12: a couple of brothers who were songwriters, and that was

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Speaker 12: why that was my first recording. After it was recorded

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Speaker 12: and people began to like it and it began a hit,

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Speaker 12: of course, then I liked it as well, and it

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Speaker 12: was pleased that I had done it and realized that

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Speaker 12: Clive probably knew better than I did.

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Speaker 1: Well, Gloria, you've had a tremendous career, but often, you know,

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Speaker 1: we don't really hear about the struggle and tribulations that

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Speaker 1: artists go through.

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Speaker 3: What dark days did you have to personally overcome.

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Speaker 12: Whenever I recorded at that time. I think it was

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Speaker 12: the same with all artists, especially female artists, that you

449
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Speaker 12: were an instrument that was used by the record company.

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Speaker 12: You recorded a song, and they did what they thought

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Speaker 12: should be done with it, whether you agreed with it

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Speaker 12: or not. So I'm glad to be at the forefront

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Speaker 12: of that and having had to struggle through that and

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Speaker 12: make my own way, make my my own voice heard,

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Speaker 12: because I found it very difficult at times. I mean

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Speaker 12: I had many songs even after that that record companies

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Speaker 12: either didn't like or didn't care about and didn't promote,

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Speaker 12: and people never heard of them. So it can be

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Speaker 12: quite a struggle if you don't have people in your

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Speaker 12: corner to help you push through the things that you

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Speaker 12: think are valuable and the things that you believe represent

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Speaker 12: and want to represent you and your talent.

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Speaker 3: Well, Lri, I think this story is so interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know, many might not know that I Will Survive

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Speaker 1: was a B side song because the A side song

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Speaker 1: was a song called Substitute which took up most of

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Speaker 1: the recording session. You recorded it with a backbrace song

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Speaker 1: and in only about thirty minutes. I understand the record

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Speaker 1: label didn't really believe in it. So it seems that

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Speaker 1: you had to live the very lyrics of the song

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Speaker 1: for it to become the hit that it is today.

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Speaker 1: Is that true?

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Speaker 12: Well, yeah, I had to forge my way with that,

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Speaker 12: and the first thing that we did was take it

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Speaker 12: back to the record company and ask them that if

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Speaker 12: they would change their minds, if they would switch it

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Speaker 12: and make that the A side, and they would not

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Speaker 12: listen because nobody wanted to go against the song that

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Speaker 12: the President had chosen, which was the other song we

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Speaker 12: call aptly named Substitute. So then we took it to

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Speaker 12: Studio fifty four where they had this great, well known DJ,

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Speaker 12: and we asked him to play it. He very graciously

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Speaker 12: played this song, and when this jaded New York audience

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Speaker 12: stormed the dance floor on the first time of hearing

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Speaker 12: this song, there was no doubt in my mind that

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Speaker 12: we were right. This was a hit song. So we

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Speaker 12: gave him the box of twenty five CDs to give

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Speaker 12: his DJ friends around New York. He did that and

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Speaker 12: they began to play it, people began to request it,

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Speaker 12: not only in the clubs but on radio, and well,

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Speaker 12: the rest is history.

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Speaker 1: Lauria, I understand that in nineteen eighty two that you

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Speaker 1: became a Christian and often we see artists turn away

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Speaker 1: from Christianity in pursuit of self rather than turn to it.

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Speaker 1: Talk to me about this decision in your life and

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Speaker 1: what changed for you.

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Speaker 7: Well, when I first.

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Speaker 12: Started to look into Christianity, it was because of what

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Speaker 12: had happened to me with my spine surgery. I was

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Speaker 12: in the hospital, laying on my back, not knowing when

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Speaker 12: I was ever going to be able to get up

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Speaker 12: and walk again and not only pursue my career, but

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Speaker 12: pursue life. And so I was calling out to God,

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Speaker 12: as we often do when we get in trouble, and

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Speaker 12: He answered me. He answered me so many times and

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Speaker 12: in so many ways, and gave me so much hope

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Speaker 12: and encouraged me and just with things and people that

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Speaker 12: were saying things in my life, and how my life

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Speaker 12: began to turn around. And it's incredible, it truly is incredible.

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Speaker 1: Well, your nomination places you among previous honorees such as Elphitzgerald,

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Speaker 1: Leon Tine Price, Maryan Williams, Aretha Franklin, Tina Turner, Diana Ross,

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Speaker 1: and Dion Warwick. Who would you say had the most

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Speaker 1: profound impact on you and your music career?

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Speaker 12: Well, elaphiz Jael was one of them. And in the

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Speaker 12: beginning of my career, I did listen to Dion Warwick,

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Speaker 12: and I listened to Barbis Streisan, and I listened to

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Speaker 12: all of these great artists who already had great recordings

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Speaker 12: and great success and great voices. And I listened to

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Speaker 12: them and to to help me with my diction and

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Speaker 12: and and.

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Speaker 13: Phrasing and vocal.

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Speaker 12: Acrobatics, so to speak, which doesn't seem to be very

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Speaker 12: prominent among singers today. But those are the things that

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Speaker 12: were at that time, were important at that time, still

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Speaker 12: are important to me and still are a part of

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Speaker 12: my recordings and my vocals. But those are the people

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Speaker 12: who were uplifted and encouraged me without even knowing it,

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Speaker 12: just from what they did with their careers.

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Speaker 1: Well, Gloria, you became a Grammy winner forty years after

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Speaker 1: I Will Survive for your gospel roots album Testimony, and

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Speaker 1: you have a new EP called Happy Tears. It seems

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Speaker 1: that you're not just surviving but thriving. You think you'll

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Speaker 1: keep making music as long as God allows you to?

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Speaker 14: Absolutely will?

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Speaker 12: I absolutely will. I can't imagine myself doing anything else,

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Speaker 12: and I often say that I'm like a spinning top.

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Speaker 12: If I stop, I'll drop.

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Speaker 1: Well, Gloria, congratulations on this tremendous honor, and thank you

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Speaker 1: for being such an inspiration.

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Speaker 12: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: You know, with Christmas being just two days away, I

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Speaker 1: thought this this message was profound, that she has made

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Speaker 1: her entire career upon the bedrock of Christianity and wants

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Speaker 1: her legacy to reflect that. I really hope that you

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Speaker 1: will enjoy my special as much as I enjoyed creating

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Speaker 1: it for you, guys, So please tune in tomorrow at

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Speaker 1: seven am and seven pm Eastern to check it out,

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Speaker 1: and keep your eyes peeled on social media for all

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Speaker 1: the other times and dates. Well, there's a major push

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Speaker 1: in the nation's capital to end child mutilation in the

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Speaker 1: name of trans care.

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Speaker 7: We get into it.

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Speaker 1: Next day, tuned Welcome back to Stenchfield tonight. Protecting children's

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Speaker 1: innocence is of paramount importance, but amazingly not everyone feels

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Speaker 1: that way, and believe it or not, it's not a

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Speaker 1: Republican or Democrat issue. In fact, the Protect Children's Innocent Act,

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Speaker 1: sponsored by Marjorie Taylor Green, was not passed by divided

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Speaker 1: party lines. Now, you would think that this bill should

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Speaker 1: pass unanimously, but it did not. It was actually a

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Speaker 1: very thin, slim majority, with some Democrats joining the Republicans

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Speaker 1: and a few Republicans defecting and voting against it. Joining

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Speaker 1: me now is RAB Chief White House Correspondent Brian Glenn.

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Speaker 1: Good evening, Brian. You know, it was so great to

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Speaker 1: be with you at a turning point USA and FEST

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Speaker 1: this past weekend, and you know, we really got into

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Speaker 1: the nitty gritty of a lot of pressing issues, not

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Speaker 1: the least of which was this very bill that MTG had.

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Speaker 3: Before she retired.

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Speaker 1: You've highlighted and acknowledged the Democrats who crossed party lines

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Speaker 1: to pass this bill, So let's talk about them, and

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Speaker 1: let's also talk about the Republicans who voted against it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Bo, good evening, Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 14: You know, it's interesting during the Trump campaign how he

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Speaker 14: always pushed back against this transgender agenda that the left has.

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Speaker 14: He would often say, transgender for everyone, transgender, this transgender that.

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Speaker 14: So what this bill does is a bill that makes

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Speaker 14: it a felony to perform transgender surgeries on minors that

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Speaker 14: would be anyone under.

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Speaker 5: The age of eighteen.

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Speaker 14: Now, an most of our viewers, I would think, Bo,

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Speaker 14: that our watchers right now would say, well, this is

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Speaker 14: kind of a no brainer. This is I think probably

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Speaker 14: a ninety nine to one percent issue across the board.

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Speaker 14: But when this bill came to the floor for a vote,

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Speaker 14: and this for the first time that it's to the

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Speaker 14: floor of the vote. This bill was in last session

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Speaker 14: of Congress and never brought to the floor for an

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Speaker 14: official vote, although it was mainly campaign for President Trump.

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Speaker 14: But this session it went to the four for a

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Speaker 14: vote and only passed because we had the help of

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Speaker 14: three Democrats and Don Davis being one of them in

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Speaker 14: North Carolina. But four House Republicans voted against this bill,

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Speaker 14: and doctor Greg Murphy of North Carolina was a did

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Speaker 14: not vote, which helps the percentage as far as getting

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Speaker 14: this thing approved, but did not go on the record

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Speaker 14: for showing his support. So this was a huge vote

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Speaker 14: for the public. The public wants to see this pass,

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Speaker 14: but Bo sadly, sadly, it did not pass purely from

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Speaker 14: the support of Republicans.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's take let's take the doctor out

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Speaker 1: of it for a second case. He voted president, which

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Speaker 1: was kind of a whist move to the three others

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Speaker 1: have defected. What do they say to their constituents who,

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Speaker 1: like you said, it's a ninety nine to one issue,

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Speaker 1: Why in God's name would they vote against them?

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Speaker 3: What would their reasoning be.

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Speaker 14: Well, one of the reasons about it, well, the ones

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Speaker 14: that like Mike Lawler and New York was one of

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Speaker 14: the Republicans that did not vote for now that is

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Speaker 14: a very purple district where he's at Brian Fitzpatrick as

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Speaker 14: well in Pennsylvania that's a very purple district. So they're

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Speaker 14: on kind of the edge where they're not. It's not

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Speaker 14: entirely Republican. And what they have said is this should

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Speaker 14: be something that's designated to the states.

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Speaker 5: It should not be a federal issue. It should be

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Speaker 5: each state.

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Speaker 14: Determines whether or not someone under the age of eighteen

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Speaker 14: can go under the transitioning drugs and surgery.

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Speaker 5: Now, Bo, that's like saying you can't.

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Speaker 14: You can beat your kid in your front yard, but

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Speaker 14: if you step out into the street or your neighbor's yard.

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Speaker 5: If you beat your kid there, that becomes a crime.

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Speaker 14: So this is one of those things that has to

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Speaker 14: be a national issue. It's so serious, and like I said,

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Speaker 14: it's probably a ninety nine to one issue in the

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Speaker 14: in the public court of opinion. But sadly, I'm thinking

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Speaker 14: though also one of the reasons why I would think

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Speaker 14: you had a few that did not vote for it

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Speaker 14: is because this is the most emerging sector in the

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Speaker 14: pharmaceutical industry, transitioning drugs. So if you have an elected

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Speaker 14: official that is taking money from big pharma, you can

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Speaker 14: bet your bottom dollar they're not going to vote against

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Speaker 14: something that there you know, their pockets have been lined

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Speaker 14: with big pharm of money. Or in the case of

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Speaker 14: doctor Greg Murphy, he's not going to go against the

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Speaker 14: medical community. That is something that is just taboo, sadly,

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Speaker 14: even though it is the best for the patient. As

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Speaker 14: you and I both learned doctor Ross that we had

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Speaker 14: one of the interviews bo if you remember that doctor

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Speaker 14: talking about, yes, all the problems these kids go after

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Speaker 14: these transitioning surgeries or these chemical drugs that they have

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Speaker 14: to take.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And speaking of that, Brian, remember we interviewed him

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Speaker 1: and we interviewed doctor Ross and Chloe Cole, who's the

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Speaker 1: D transition he that's right now. I don't have the

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Speaker 1: clip of our interview with her, but I do want

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Speaker 1: to talk about that on the other side of this.

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Speaker 1: Let's play a quick clip of some of Chloe's thoughts.

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Speaker 15: Every boy and every girl deserves to be loved the

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Speaker 15: way that they were beautifully created in their mother's womb.

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Speaker 16: And to the young people out there who are struggling

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Speaker 16: with this mental illness, I want you to know that

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Speaker 16: there is a better way out and it's not too

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Speaker 16: late to accept the beautiful way that God has created you.

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Speaker 1: You know, Brian, when you and I interviewed her, I

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Speaker 1: thought it was really really profound. But even from this interview,

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Speaker 1: her saying mental illness, calling it that this is someone

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Speaker 1: who transitioned and then D transition and calling it that,

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Speaker 1: so it's not like someone on the outside saying someone

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Speaker 1: from the inside who's personally experienced it. And also remembered

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Speaker 1: that she said that some of the effects of some

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Speaker 1: of the transition that she made are irreversible, that she

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Speaker 1: still feels some of those effects. And I think about

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Speaker 1: a minor doing that and being unable to potentially have

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Speaker 1: a child if they went through this procedure. I just

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Speaker 1: thought that that was really profound to me. I think

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Speaker 1: more of Chloe's words need to be amplified. But what

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Speaker 1: you just said too about pharmaceutically lined pockets is of

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Speaker 1: great relevance.

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Speaker 3: I think in the situation, it really is.

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Speaker 5: And I'll give you another case in point.

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Speaker 14: I just read a story today about Caitlyn Jenner previously

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Speaker 14: Bruce Jenner, going back to Bruce Jenner.

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Speaker 5: So, well, maybe we're seeing a trend.

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Speaker 14: Yes, maybe we're seeing a trend that this got very

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Speaker 14: popular under the Biden administration, became fashionably cool to transition

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Speaker 14: or to embrace the transitioning ideology that.

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Speaker 5: You could become any gender that you want.

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Speaker 14: Just go to your local doctor and tell them how

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Speaker 14: you feel you want to become a bunny rabbit.

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Speaker 5: Why not do that too? So I think you're.

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Speaker 14: Seeing a shift uh in and in the society. And

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Speaker 14: it maybe perhaps from Democrats even that think that this

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Speaker 14: did not help them in the election.

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Speaker 5: It just didn't.

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Speaker 14: It backfired on them, thinking that we've got to have

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Speaker 14: the transivisity, you know, Visibility Day and all these other

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Speaker 14: you know holidays, around the trans community, and it's just

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Speaker 14: not being embraced by by the American people and and

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Speaker 14: and God forbid. Look if someone if someone is struggling

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Speaker 14: with their gender, you know, identity, bo you and I

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Speaker 14: are men of faith. We pray for them that they see,

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Speaker 14: you know, receive some type of clarity and peace of

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Speaker 14: who God created them. But case, you know, Caitlyn Jenner,

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Speaker 14: Bruce Jenner, that's a good case right now now that

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Speaker 14: you can look at. Once somebody goes that way, you

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Speaker 14: know what, it wasn't the right decision. That's why she's

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Speaker 14: going back to Bruce Jenner. And really but it's trying

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Speaker 14: to get back.

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Speaker 5: To it, Briant.

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Speaker 3: It's so interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's just so interesting to me that Democrats wanted to

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Speaker 1: push this issue from the perspective of, Okay, be who

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Speaker 1: you want to be. We all want you to be

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Speaker 1: who you want to be. But to the extent that

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Speaker 1: you reverse things that you can't reverse back. Why should

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Speaker 1: any of those people talking to mental health professionals that

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Speaker 1: may say what you have is something different and we

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Speaker 1: need to discuss that and discuss what God wants you

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Speaker 1: to be with than saying, you know what, let's pop

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Speaker 1: a few pills.

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Speaker 3: Let's hack off this, Let's do a little bit of

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Speaker 3: this and that.

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Speaker 1: Let's clean you up surgically, and then you can go

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Speaker 1: about your Mary way knowing that there's no way maybe

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Speaker 1: you be able to reverse that. I think that's where

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Speaker 1: the conversation needs to start. And the fact that you,

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Speaker 1: like you said Caitlin, might want to be Bruce again

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Speaker 1: tells you there's some buyer's remorse out there. So Brian,

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Speaker 1: before it, lets you go really quickly, where does this

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Speaker 1: bill stand? It does have to go to the Senate,

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Speaker 1: does it live, does it die? What do you think?

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Speaker 5: That's a great question, Bo. It does have to go

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Speaker 5: to the Senate.

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Speaker 14: Now, one would think that once again, common sense would

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Speaker 14: in all of this and that they would support what

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Speaker 14: President Trump, who by the way, has an executive order

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Speaker 14: that mirrors this bill. You would think that the Republicans

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Speaker 14: in the Senate would pass this thing, would the help.

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Speaker 5: Of a few Democrats as well.

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Speaker 14: I would think there's three or four Democrats at least

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Speaker 14: that might get behind this. But it goes the fourth

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Speaker 14: of a vote I anticipate early next year.

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Speaker 5: Even if it doesn't pass, BO, this is a test.

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Speaker 14: Let's put on record what Republicans will not stand behind

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Speaker 14: President Trump and his executive order to ban transgender surgery.

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Speaker 14: Put it on the record so we know exactly how

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Speaker 14: to vote in the midterms.

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Speaker 1: BO, I mean to that, particularly if you've got people

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Speaker 1: like Chloe Cole coming out and making their voices, letter

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Speaker 1: and even potentially Bruce Jenner saying I've had enough of this.

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Speaker 1: I was misletter, misguided or mentally not there. So thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. Brian Glenn has always great time with

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Speaker 1: you out at Amfest. My friend, Oh, I loved it. Thanks, Bo,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. It was so good. It was so good.

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Speaker 1: Brian's such a pro. We love him all right. Well,

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Speaker 1: coming back, we'll finish our conversation with Red State contributor

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Speaker 1: Neil McCabe. He'll rejoin us and discussed Hunter Biden throwing

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Speaker 1: his father under the bus in a recent interview. You

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Speaker 1: won't want to miss that coming up next. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Stinchfield tonight. Protecting children's innocence is of paramount importance,

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Speaker 1: but amazingly not everyone feels that way, and believe it

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Speaker 1: or not, it's not a Republican or Democrat issue. In fact,

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Speaker 1: the Protect Children's Innocent Act, sponsored by Marjorie Taylor Green

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Speaker 1: was not passed by divided party lines. Now, you would

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Speaker 1: think that this bill should pass unanimously, but it did not.

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Speaker 1: It was actually a very thin, slim majority, with some

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Speaker 1: Democrats joining the Republicans and a few Republicans defecting and

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Speaker 1: voting against it. Joining me now is rav Chief White

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Speaker 1: House Correspondent Brian Glenn. Good evening, Brian. You know, it

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Speaker 1: was so great to be with you at a turning

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Speaker 1: point USA and FEST this past weekend, and you know,

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Speaker 1: we really got into the nitty gritty of a lot

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Speaker 1: of pressing issues, not the least of which was this

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Speaker 1: very bill that MTG had before she retired. You've highlighted

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Speaker 1: and acknowledged the Democrats who crossed party lines to pass

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Speaker 1: this bill, So let's talk about them, and let's also

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Speaker 1: talk about the Republicans who voted against it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Bo, good evening, Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 14: You know, it's interesting during the Trump campaign how he

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Speaker 14: always pushed back against this transgender agenda that the left has.

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Speaker 14: He would often say, transgender for everyone, transgender, this transgender that.

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Speaker 14: So what this bill does is a bill that makes

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Speaker 14: it a felony to perform transgender surgeries on miners that

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Speaker 14: would be anyone under.

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Speaker 5: The age of eighteen.

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Speaker 14: Now an most of our viewers, I would think bo

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Speaker 14: that our watchers right now would say, well, this is

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Speaker 14: kind of a no brainer. This is I think probably

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Speaker 14: a ninety nine to one percent issue across the board.

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Speaker 14: But when this bill came to the floor for a vote,

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Speaker 14: and this for the first time that has come to

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Speaker 14: the floor of the vote. This bill was in last

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Speaker 14: session of Congress and never brought to the floor for

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Speaker 14: an official vote, although it was mainly campaign for President Trump.

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Speaker 14: But this session and went to the foor for a

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Speaker 14: vote and only passed because we had the help of

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Speaker 14: three Democrats and Don Davis being one of them in

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Speaker 14: North Carolina. But four House Republicans voted against this bill,

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Speaker 14: and doctor Greg Murphy of North Carolina was a did

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Speaker 14: not vote, which helps the percentage as far as getting

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Speaker 14: this thing approved, but did not go on the.

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Speaker 5: Record for showing your support. So this was a huge

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Speaker 5: vote for the public.

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Speaker 14: The public wants to see this pass, but both sadly

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Speaker 14: sadly it did not pass purely from the support of Republicans.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's take let's take the doctor out

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Speaker 1: of it. For a second cause he voted present, which

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Speaker 1: was kind of a whist move to the three others

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Speaker 1: have defected. What do they say to their constituents who,

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Speaker 1: like you said, it's a ninety nine to one issue,

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Speaker 1: Why in God's name would they vote against them?

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Speaker 3: What would their reasoning be?

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Speaker 14: Well, one of the reasons about it, well, the ones

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Speaker 14: that like Mike Lawler and New York was one of

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Speaker 14: the Republicans that did not vote for now that is

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Speaker 14: a very purple district where he's at Brian Fitzpatrick as

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Speaker 14: well in Pennsylvania that's a very purple district. So they're

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Speaker 14: on kind of the edge where they're not. It's not

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Speaker 14: entirely Republican. And what they have said is this should

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Speaker 14: be something that's designated to the states.

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Speaker 5: It should not be a federal issue. It should be

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Speaker 5: each state.

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Speaker 14: Determines whether or not someone under the age of eighteen

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Speaker 14: can go under the transitioning drugs and surgery.

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Speaker 5: Now, bo, that's like saying.

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Speaker 14: You can't You can beat your kid in your front yard,

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Speaker 14: but if you step out into the street or your

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Speaker 14: neighbors yard, if you beat your kid there, that becomes

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Speaker 14: a crime. So this is one of those things that

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Speaker 14: has to be a national issue. It's so serious and

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Speaker 14: like I said, it's probably a ninety nine to one

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Speaker 14: issue in the in the public court of opinion. But sadly,

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Speaker 14: I'm thinking though also one of the reasons why I

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Speaker 14: would think you had a few that did not vote

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Speaker 14: for it is because this is the most emerging sector

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Speaker 14: in the pharmaceutical industry, transsitioning drugs. So if you have

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Speaker 14: an elected official that is taking money from big pharma,

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Speaker 14: can you can bet your bottom dollar they're not going

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Speaker 14: to vote against something that they're you know, their pockets

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Speaker 14: have been lined with big pharm of money. Or in

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Speaker 14: the case of doctor Greg Murphy, he's not going to

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Speaker 14: go against the medical community. That is something that is

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Speaker 14: just taboo, sadly, even though it is the best for

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Speaker 14: the patient, as you and I both learned, and doctor

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Speaker 14: Ross that we had one of the interviews bo if

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Speaker 14: you remember that doctor talking about, yes, all the problems

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Speaker 14: these kids go after these transitioning surgeries or these chemical

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Speaker 14: drugs that they have to take.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and speaking of that, Brian, remember we interviewed him,

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Speaker 1: and we interviewed doctor Ross and Chloe Cole, who's the

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Speaker 1: d transition that's Right now, I don't have the clip

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Speaker 1: of our interview with her, but I do want to

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Speaker 1: talk about that on the other side of this, Let's

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Speaker 1: play a quick clip of some of Chloe's thoughts.

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Speaker 15: Every boy and every girl deserves to be loved the

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Speaker 15: way that they were beautifully created in their mother's womb.

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Speaker 16: And to the young people out there who are struggling

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Speaker 16: with this mental illness, I want you to know that

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Speaker 16: there is a better way out and it's not too

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Speaker 16: late to accept the beautiful way that God has created you.

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Speaker 1: You know, Brian, when you and I interviewed are at thought,

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Speaker 1: it was really really profound. But even from this interview,

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Speaker 1: her saying mental illness, calling it that this is someone

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Speaker 1: who transitioned and then d transition and calling it that,

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Speaker 1: so it's not like someone on the outside saying it.

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Speaker 1: Someone from the inside who's personally experienced it. And also

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Speaker 1: remember that she said that some of the effects of

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Speaker 1: some of the transition that she made are irreversible, that

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Speaker 1: she still feels some of those effects. And I think

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Speaker 1: about a minor doing that and being unable to potentially

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Speaker 1: have a child if they went through this procedure. I

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Speaker 1: just thought that that was really profound to me. I

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Speaker 1: think more of Chloe's words need to be amplified. But

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Speaker 1: what you just said too about pharmaceutically lined pockets is

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Speaker 1: of great relevance.

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Speaker 3: I think in the situation, it really is.

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Speaker 5: And I'll give you another case in point.

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Speaker 14: I just read a story today about Caitlyn Jenner previously

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Speaker 14: Bruce Jenner, going back to Bruce Jenner.

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Speaker 5: So, well, maybe we're seeing a trend.

872
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Speaker 14: Yes, maybe we're seeing a trend that this got very

873
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 14: popular under the bible An administration became fashionably cool to transition,

874
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 14: or to embrace the transitioning ideology that you could.

875
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 5: Become any gender that you want.

876
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 14: Just go to your local doctor and tell them how

877
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 14: you feel you want to become a buddy rabbit. Why

878
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 14: not do that too? So I think you're seeing a shift,

879
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 14: uh in and in the society. And it maybe perhaps

880
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 14: from Democrats even that think that this did not help

881
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Speaker 14: them in the election.

882
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 5: It just didn't.

883
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 14: It backfired on them thinking that we've got to have

884
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 14: the transli visit, you know, Visibility Day and all these

885
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 14: other you know holidays around the trans community, and it's

886
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 14: just not being embraced by by the American people and

887
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 14: and and God forbid. Look if someone if someone is

888
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 14: struggling with their gender, you know, identity, bo you and

889
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 14: I are men of faith. We pray for them that

890
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 14: they see, you know, receive some type of clarity and

891
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 14: peace of who God created them. But case, you know,

892
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 14: Caitlyn Jenner, Bruce Jenner, that's a good case right now

893
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 14: that you can look at. Once somebody goes that way,

894
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 14: you know what, it wasn't the right decision. That's why

895
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Speaker 14: she's going back to Bruce Jenner and really it's trying

896
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Speaker 14: to get back to Brian.

897
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Speaker 5: It's so interesting.

898
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: It's just so interesting to me that Democrats wanted to

899
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: push this issue from the perspective of, Okay, be who

900
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: you want to be. We all want you to be

901
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: who you want to be. But to the extent that

902
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 1: you reverse things that you can't reverse back. Why shouldn't

903
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: any of those people talking to mental health professionals that

904
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: may say what you have is something different and we

905
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: need to discuss that and discuss what God wants you

906
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: to be with than saying, you know what, let's pop

907
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: a few pills, let's hack off this, let's do a

908
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: little bit of this and that, let's clean you up

909
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: surgically and then you can go about your marry way

910
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: knowing that there's no way maybe you be able to

911
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: reverse that. I think that's where the conversation needs to start.

912
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: And the fact that you, like you said, Caitlin, might

913
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Speaker 1: want to be Bruce again tells you there's some buyer's

914
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: remorse out there. So Brian, before it, lets you go

915
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: really quickly, where does this bill stand? It does have

916
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Speaker 1: to go to the Senate, Does it live, does it die?

917
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Speaker 3: What do you think?

918
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 5: That's a great question, Bo. It does have to go

919
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 5: to the Senate.

920
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 14: Now, one would think that once again, common sense would

921
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 14: prevail in all of this and that they would support

922
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Speaker 14: what President Trump, who by the way, has an executive order.

923
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Speaker 5: That mirrors this bill.

924
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Speaker 14: You would think that the Republicans in the Senate would

925
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Speaker 14: pass this thing with the help of a few Democrats

926
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Speaker 14: as well. I would think there's three or four Democrats

927
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Speaker 14: at least that might get behind this. But it goes

928
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Speaker 14: the fourth of vote. I anticipate early next year. Even

929
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Speaker 14: if it doesn't pass, Bo, this is a test. Let's

930
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 14: put on record what Republicans will not stand behind President

931
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 14: Trump and his executive order to ban transgender surgery. Put

932
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 14: it on the record so we know exactly how to

933
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Speaker 14: vote in the midterms.

934
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Speaker 7: BO.

935
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Speaker 1: I mean to that, particularly if you've got people like

936
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Speaker 1: Chloe Cole coming out and making their voices letter and

937
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: even potentially Bruce Jenner saying I've had enough of this.

938
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Speaker 1: I was misletter, misguided or mentally not there. So thank

939
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Speaker 1: you so much. Brian Glenn has always great time with

940
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Speaker 1: you out at Amfest. My friend, Oh, I loved it. Thanks, Bo,

941
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Speaker 1: appreciate it. It was so good. It was so good. Brian's

942
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: such a pro We love him all right. Well, coming back,

943
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Speaker 1: we'll finish our conversation with Red State contributor Neil McCabe.

944
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Speaker 1: He'll rejoin us, and also discussed Hunter Biden throwing his

945
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Speaker 1: father under the bus in a recent interview. You won't

946
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Speaker 1: want to miss that. Coming up next, Welcome back to

947
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Speaker 1: Stinchfield tonight. Hunter Biden has a brand new interview out

948
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: with Sean Ryan and he had some rather interesting things

949
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Speaker 1: to say. Rejoining me now is Neil McCabe of RedState

950
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Speaker 1: dot Com. Neil, let's get your thoughts on the other

951
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: side of this clip.

952
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Speaker 17: Let's take a look a vibrant immigration, but we don't

953
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 17: want immigrants that are coming here illegally, draining us of resources,

954
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Speaker 17: and also and being prioritized above people that are actual

955
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 17: literal heroes that are coming home, that are still recovering

956
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 17: from twenty twenty years of endless war, or anybody else

957
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Speaker 17: in our society, right, But nobody's everybody's talking about.

958
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Speaker 7: Neil.

959
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Speaker 1: This is a pretty scathing indictment of his father's entire presidency.

960
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole point of the Biden presidency was

961
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Speaker 1: bringing as many illegals as you can.

962
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Speaker 3: What do you what do you think about this?

963
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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think that Hunter Biden is basically hitting a

964
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 11: hard reboot on uh, on his own political celebrity. He's like, Okay,

965
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 11: mistakes are made, there's a new management in place. How

966
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 11: how do we win back your business? It's uh, it's

967
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 11: funny too, because the suspicion always was that Joe Biden

968
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 11: was personally a very conservative guy from Delaware, which was

969
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 11: when he was growing up and when he first was

970
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 11: elected to the Senate, an extremely conservative state culturally, even

971
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Speaker 11: though it was democratic. But uh, and so what you

972
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Speaker 11: had is you had, you know, the idea was that

973
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Speaker 11: Joe was always pretending to be more liberal than he

974
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 11: actually was, because that was how he was going to

975
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 11: compensate for his own personal conservatism. And I think that's

976
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 11: sort of coming out that maybe the fact of the

977
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 11: matter is that Hunter was raised in a very conservative,

978
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Speaker 11: culturally conservative Catholic family, and he no longer wants to

979
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Speaker 11: live a lie. It's interesting that he's pointing out immigration,

980
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 11: which was a huge mistake, huge mistake by the Biden administration,

981
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 11: completely tone deaf, and we now know that people inside

982
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 11: the White House, people inside the administration were banging the

983
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 11: pots and pans and trying to tell the President and

984
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 11: his sort of cadre around him, that Prigetorian guard, that hey,

985
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 11: we have to stop this.

986
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 5: This is killing us. And you are.

987
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 11: Democrats like Mark Kelly and Arizona saying, hey, we're on

988
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 11: the border and this is horrible.

989
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 5: You have to change it.

990
00:51:59,120 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 9: Yeah.

991
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Speaker 11: On the other other hand, the withdrawal from Afghanistan bo

992
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 11: that actually, as ugly and messy as it was, may

993
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 11: have been the highlight of his administration. I've never met

994
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 11: an American who said, you know, I wish we were

995
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 11: back in Afghanistan. And if Biden had said, hey, it

996
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 11: was ugly, it was terrible, but we were there for

997
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 11: twenty years and I got us out. I think if

998
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 11: he had leaned into that, people would have said, all right,

999
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 11: you're right. It was horrible, it was brutal. What happened

1000
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 11: at Abby Gate was insane. But we're out and we're

1001
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 11: moving on. And I think that, you know, he should

1002
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 11: get some credit for that.

1003
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: Well, he did talk about that, we don't have a

1004
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: ton of time left. But let's play the clip really

1005
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: quickly about what he said about Afghanistan.

1006
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 17: Do you think some of those failures were I think

1007
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 17: the failure one of the failures was the way in

1008
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 17: which they executed the withdrawal from Afghanistan. I think it

1009
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 17: was an obvious.

1010
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 5: Marines are dead.

1011
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 17: I think that there was a better way to do it,

1012
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 17: and I think that uh and I can blame it

1013
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,479
Speaker 17: on his generals. I can blame it on the people

1014
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 17: the way Wayne whish we did it. But my dad

1015
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 17: always knew this also is that the buck stops with him.

1016
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: So Neil, to your point, and we got a hard

1017
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: break we've got to go to. But to your point,

1018
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: I think you're right that a lot of Americans are

1019
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: thankful we're out of Afghanistan. But the way in which

1020
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: it was done, was so sure that it left this scorge,

1021
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: this just stain on his presidency that I think will

1022
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: always will forever live in ignominy. So Neil, thank you

1023
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: so much. Merry Christmas to you, sir, all right back

1024
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: to you. Merry Christmas to you all, and we leave

1025
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: you now with the anthem of the Free.

1026
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 9: Dams.

1027
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 14: Shane Jenkins, Riquetario, Robert Morrise.

1028
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 7: My name is Pete swart Berry, Raymond Ryan, John Jordan McGeorge,

1029
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 7: White Wolfsman.

1030
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 3: This anthem means a lot to me because that's what

1031
00:53:58,640 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 3: held us together.

1032
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 7: Against the odds.

1033
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 13: Our faith that our days of this nation will.

1034
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 5: Be renewed is still there.

1035
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 4: We informed bonds that can never be broken. I, along

1036
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 4: with my brothers and sisters, whether the story, we.

1037
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 5: Will never stop fighting for this country and.

1038
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 9: My friends and my brothers that also helped me through

1039
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 9: this stuff.

1040
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 12: To because we are what makes this country the greatest

1041
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 12: country on this planet.

1042
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 7: In this moment, in this anthem is living sing the

1043
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 7: people who never made home to us. Stories will be told.

1044
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 7: We send as wine.

1045
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 13: You're not in this liberty justice, fool, say the.

1046
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 18: Dantum free Hey. Freedom may free nowhere, It comes with

1047
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 18: a price. Reci peace, Charlie, she believe they took your life,

1048
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 18: did it make it back home to your children? And

1049
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 18: white by any means. We have to keep freedom of

1050
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 18: speech alive. Hey, rest in peace, Cory. Are the fires

1051
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 18: that you fight to the cops said, been, let's try

1052
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 18: that being fighting day and night so we could have

1053
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 18: living tea and now God giving right to all the

1054
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 18: mothers and fathers that's just trying to present their child. Hey,

1055
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 18: freedom worth dying forth, dreams worth fighting for. God got us,

1056
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 18: I promise, That's the reason I smile. Protesting with our

1057
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 18: voice and our pressings and our words. We ain't killing

1058
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 18: people for disagreeing.

1059
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 13: Man, that's a surd.

1060
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 18: We ain't burning down cities because we prayed the.

1061
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 7: People. Story be told, you know this fire.

1062
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 18: Just Hey, stop killing people that just want to the

1063
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 18: base when we protesting. You ain't seen no couns in

1064
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 18: no flames. We don't have to agree. We ain't gotta

1065
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 18: think the same country builds on conservative values. Let's reclaim it.

1066
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 18: It's not about Hey, we just want to feel her.

1067
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 18: We stand there for the truth, not just following to her.

1068
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 18: You can love your country and still call out its flaws.

1069
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 18: You can back the Constitution and still question the loss.

1070
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 18: We don't want to be killed just for speaking our voice.

1071
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 18: God come in soon, man, So it's time to rechoice.

1072
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 18: Let the ballots be counting, that the questions be asked,

1073
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 18: that the people decide. Don't just better read the past,

1074
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 18: and don't that evil get you down? Because God were saying,

1075
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 18: the people who.

1076
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 7: Do ust.

1077
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 13: Listen as you justice.

1078
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 7: Another person that I have to thank is Donald J. Trump.

1079
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 10: Our brotherhood that we built and the country we believed in,

1080
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 10: and especially our president.

1081
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 5: We never would have made it out Le's by God.

1082
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: Thank you Donald Trump for pardoned us and giving us

1083
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: a second chance.

1084
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: On Lizon and Trump for pardoning.

1085
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 5: Me, we're saving my soul. On Donald Trump for giving

1086
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 5: me the pardon.

1087
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Speaker 1: I want to thank Donald Trump for parting us and

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Speaker 1: is the only reason that we're here today, all together,

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Speaker 1: free with smiles on our faces.