1 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Callida Health. 2 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: All Right, welcome in to a Tuesday edition of One 3 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: Bills Live. 4 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 3: Chris Brown see tasker with you. 5 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: As the free agent negotiating period enters its second day, 6 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: we are a mere twenty five hours in, and I 7 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: think half the money is gone. Let's go, got over 8 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: a billion dollars in contracts, like she handed it out 9 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: already just. 10 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 4: Before we came online on the air, looking at my timeline. 11 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 4: And so you go from you you're a young think 12 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 4: about it. You're a young elite wide receiver in the 13 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 4: National Football League. You are killing it. You are on 14 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 4: a Hall of Fame trajectory. And the team that you 15 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 4: play for, Trey lets you the guy who lets your 16 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 4: quarterback walk out the door. And free agency only to 17 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 4: bring in Sam Darnold. 18 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: It's a new day in Minnesota for Justin Jefferson. 19 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: They're gonna draft one. 20 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you think they're gonna draft They can't go in 21 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 4: the season with Sam Darnald. 22 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: I think they picked eleven, they pick eleventh. I believe 23 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: they're gonna draft one. 24 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 4: You think Mike Pennix lasts till eleven? Yes, I draft 25 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 4: that guy. I like Michael Pennix. 26 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: I think. 27 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: I do too. A lot of people are very high 28 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: on Drake May and I haven't. I gotta say, I'm 29 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 4: not as familiar with Drake May i am with Pennix. 30 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: I've seen Pennis play on television. I'm like, and I'm like, obviously, 31 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 4: haven't worked him out. I like him a lot. He's 32 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 4: been he's had well, yes, and they say, well, he's 33 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 4: been injured. He's been healthy for two years. 34 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: Two years. 35 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: That's a career that he's been healthy. In the NFL. 36 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 4: For some guys, I like Michael Pennix junior better than 37 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 4: Drake May, Jayden Daniels or j J McCoy. 38 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 3: It worries me about Drake May Is. 39 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: I just don't think he's ready to play now. Now, 40 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: if you have a situation on your team where you 41 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: can have your quarterbacks coach work with that guy for 42 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: his rookie season, yeah, but and do the Patrick Mahomes 43 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: deal or even the Jordan Love deal, then I'll listen. 44 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: But if you are drafting Drake May to have him 45 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: play week one, I am no, thank you. 46 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 4: Well, you can't draft well, okay, so you're if you're Minnesota, 47 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 4: whoever they draft shouldn't be Drake is gonna play day 48 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,279 Speaker 4: one because Sam Darling. 49 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: And to beat him out, Then it shouldn't be Drake 50 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 2: may right. 51 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 4: Michael Pennix. Now he may come in as that guy's 52 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: got a live arm, leadership skills, the body language things go, 53 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 4: and the leadership quality. I mean, that guy, to me 54 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 4: is a much better player than he's getting credit for now. 55 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: Me and I'm I didn't know. I don't know what 56 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 4: his medical is. They say he's injured. He's been healthy 57 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 4: for two years, like I said, but maybe he's got 58 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 4: you know, something else going on that makes teams shy 59 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 4: away from it early. But man, oh man, the guy 60 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: can play. 61 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: He can play. 62 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: Uh before we spin into what is going on around 63 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: the league, and there is some pretty big news. I 64 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: got to ask you this question because I experienced this 65 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: an hour ago. What, in your estimation is the most 66 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: dangerous food to your palette after being reheated in the microwave. 67 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: Well, pizza is up there because you always heat it 68 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 4: too much. 69 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's a danger. Okay, that would be on 70 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 2: the top of your list. 71 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, probably because it's the most common as well. 72 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: I submit to you the frozen burrito Oh yeah, good. 73 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: One have to cook that thing for sixty seconds. Okay, 74 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: so that's number one. Number two, the temperature on the 75 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: outside of the burrito is approximately three hundred degrees fahrenheit 76 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: cooler than the center of the burrito, which, for all 77 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: intents and purposes, is a searing inferno of heat. And 78 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: so you know, you kind of test the outside of 79 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: the burrito. You'll wait a couple of minutes. I mean 80 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: I waited five minutes before I even picked the thing 81 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: up first bite. I still scorched my tongue. I'm just 82 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: telling you, if you are stranded on a polar ice cap, 83 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: if you have a power source, a microwave, and a 84 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: frozen burrito, the frozen burrito will keep you warm and alive. 85 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: For three days. Is there a correlation never escapes? 86 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: Is there from a microwave burrito? 87 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: It is outright dangerous. 88 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: They gotta put warning labels on those things. 89 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: Is there a correlation you think between foods that can 90 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 4: do heat thing like that and also have no expiration date. 91 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe there's some substance in there there. The conductive 92 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: heat retention of a frozen burrito after being cooked for 93 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 2: a minute, just a minute in the microwave. I mean, 94 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: it's like nuclear fission going on in there. It's unbelievable. 95 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: I mean I told you, I said, I let it 96 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: sit for five minutes. Because I've experienced this before. I 97 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: was like, okay, five minutes were good, you know, first bike, 98 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I will spin it out in the 99 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: garbage panel. I don't know if there's a more dangerous 100 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: reheated food in the microwave. 101 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, here's the thing to Microwaves have always been a 102 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: dicey thing when you read if it's not one of 103 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 4: those stirable foods. 104 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: Well, we're old enough to remember the giant box microwaves. 105 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 3: Do you remember those? They used to have a table 106 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: for themselves in the kitchen. 107 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 4: Took three guys to lift it. I remember, listen when 108 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: they came to. 109 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 3: These a little bit. 110 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: Now they're like the size of a LAPTI. I remember 111 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: they were the size of a thirty inch TV. 112 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 4: I remember when I was like in between second and 113 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 4: sixth grade, somewhere in your little elementary this is this 114 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 4: is this like fifty years ago. Back then, we got 115 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 4: we They said, try to see what because nobody knew 116 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 4: what they were. So we got one that this company 117 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 4: my mom worked for gave it try and see if 118 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 4: it works. It's like, you can use it for a month, 119 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: tesk right, the tasks right. So yeah, we were basically labrats. 120 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 4: We're basically labrats. And they said, guess what it does. 121 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 4: What I said, it'll cook a hot dog in twenty seconds. 122 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 5: Come on. 123 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 4: Sure. He put the hot dog in there and this 124 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 4: You could feel the electoral magnetic waves coming out of 125 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: that thing, right, I mean it was like it was 126 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 4: like Oppenheimer up in there. 127 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 6: Right. 128 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 4: So we're like we're sitting there. We turned that thing 129 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 4: on and literally fifteen seconds after that thing pops on, 130 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: that hot dog is exploding, like like split couldn't even 131 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 4: put it on a bunny. Let me tell you something awesome. 132 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were like, awesome, this is awesome. 133 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 4: Slap that thing and slice of bread. 134 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: I have to shake a popcorn over the stove for 135 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: ten minutes, hoping everything pops in there. 136 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 3: I can throw a bag in the microwaves. 137 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, I remember. The thing was this. Of 138 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: course I was little, but the thing was huge and. 139 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: We had a separate rolling table. 140 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: We had a small kitchen. 141 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, and this thing was gargantuine. It was like 142 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: the size of an old nineteen inch tube set like 143 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: depth wise, height wise, with wise like the whole nine. 144 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: My mom lot like a rolling table and put it 145 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: next to the fridge just to sit this thing on 146 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: there so. 147 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: We could use it. 148 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 4: I'm telling you, man, I mean, come on all the way. 149 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: Well, you're up against the glass looking at what's going 150 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: on in there, and I'm like, can you imagine how 151 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: many microwaves through this brain? 152 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: I forget it. 153 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 4: The microwaves are great. I mean you use them all 154 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 4: the time, and they're very they're handy, and it's a 155 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 4: great way to heat stuff whatever they use them for. 156 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 4: That they were good. But you know what it's there's 157 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: still something about standing over with a with a pan 158 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 4: and you know, toss the yeah on the stove popcorn. 159 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 4: As it's been fifty years since those literally fifty years 160 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 4: since the microwaves started to be used, and now everybody's 161 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 4: got I mean it's like, yeah, it's like a it's 162 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: like a faucet. You gotta have one. 163 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: Think we got ours in eighty two, I want to say, 164 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: see mine would have been ten years before that. 165 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 3: Wow, yeah you were the beta test. 166 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 4: Yeah maybe before I mean it was yeah, it was 167 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: very early, very early. 168 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: This was in the. 169 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 4: Early well that might have been yeah, early seventies. Yeah, wow, 170 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 4: andant man kids coming over watching it. 171 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 3: Look at this thing, Look at it. Let's blow stuff out. 172 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 4: You know, we go through like six packs of hot 173 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 4: dogs just to cook them, right, because then we can 174 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: watch it. 175 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it's treachery heating up burritos in the microwave. 176 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 4: They still have got that, right. You gotta come on you. 177 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 3: There's gotta be different ways even, there's gotta be. 178 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 4: Even And I know this too, that you have different buttons. 179 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 4: Now it's like, ok, here's the for pizza, here's for popcorn, 180 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 4: here's for reheating cast role, here's for all that stuff. 181 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: But you know they're trying right forty years later, but. 182 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 2: Dude, yeah, it's a I'm telling you it's it's high 183 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 2: it's high risk danger out there trying to who hast 184 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: out of the microw absolutely. 185 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: Scarred yourself on the inside of your mouth because and 186 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: look at you touch it and it's like it's not bad, Yeah, 187 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 4: it's not bad. Then you take a bite, it's. 188 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: Like yeah, because the internal core is like. 189 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: It's like biting into a into a charcoal Briquette. 190 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not good. So just be careful out 191 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: there people. That's our public service message for the day. 192 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: We got to go around the NFL. We'll begin with 193 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: the Bills. As usual around the NFL, brought to you 194 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: by Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, 195 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: and the Bills were busy on. 196 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: Day one of the free agent negotiating period. 197 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: The latest official deal is they have agreed to terms 198 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 2: with day Kwon Jones on a two year deal worth 199 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: a reported sixteen million dollars. And look, I would say 200 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: dollars to donuts. If you ask most Bills fans the 201 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: number one priority for getting a player back in the 202 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: fold on the roster last year who was a free 203 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: agent this spring, Daikwon Jones might have been at the 204 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 2: top of everybody's list. Yeah, would you agree with that. 205 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: Yes, one of those guys like Jordan Phillips when he 206 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 4: was you know, when he was playing so well, when 207 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 4: he was out of the lineup, you missed him. They 208 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 4: lost something. Now I'll say this too, and I'm a 209 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 4: big fan of Daikuon and George Phillips and all those guys. 210 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: Down inside. One of the things about what happens in 211 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 4: these defenses. Though, when you get guys that are playing 212 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 4: at a certain level and all that, you start to 213 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: build around them. So you start to build it around them. 214 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 4: The guys get the rhythm with him in there, they 215 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 4: start to gel a little bit as a unit. So naturally, 216 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 4: whenever you take a key guy out of there, then 217 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 4: it's the void seems huge. I'm not saying there's nobody 218 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 4: on the free agent market that would have been as 219 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: good as Daikwan Jones, but we know when day Kawan 220 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 4: Jones was in there for the Bills this past year, 221 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: he knew what you could count on. That guy held 222 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 4: the line. They did not win the line of scrimmage 223 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: when he was in the in there and he freed 224 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 4: it up at Oliver didn't get doubled, Vaughan didn't get doubled. 225 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 4: He maybe got chipped once in a while. You know, 226 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 4: he just took up two guys and you could just 227 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 4: tell the difference in the like maybe even like just 228 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 4: looking at the offense of the other team seemed comfortable, 229 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, you could just the whole 230 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 4: game seemed to change when dayk one wasn't on the 231 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 4: field or when he was absent. I'm not saying down 232 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 4: after down after down, but as a general place Daykon 233 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 4: was a difference maker. So for that reason, I thought, 234 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 4: there's no way we're getting him back. Somebody's gonna say 235 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 4: see that and say, well, we're got to have him. 236 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 4: You know, big dudes are hard. Good players that are 237 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 4: big dudes are hard to find. 238 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: And I don't know if this played a role in 239 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: his decision at all. Obviously he likes playing here. We 240 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 2: know that because we've had him in the studio, We've 241 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: asked him. He's also a New York State native. He's 242 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 2: a Binghamton area guy from down in Johnson City, and 243 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: I know we had him here in studio last year 244 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 2: or maybe the year before, and he said he really 245 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: enjoys his family having the ability to come up for 246 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 2: games right there. It's only about a three hour drive 247 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: from Binghamton, so that's a plus for him. Now from Binghamton, 248 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: can you get to a few other places in three 249 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: or four hours? Yeah, you can probably get down to 250 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 2: New York and New Jersey in that amount of time 251 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: as well. But it was something that I know he 252 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: enjoyed having his family here for as many games as 253 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: they would make it up to because he was in 254 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: close proximity. So sometimes that stuff factors. 255 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 4: In, No, it always factors in. In fact that you 256 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 4: can bet he's hearing it from me. Yeah, you gotta 257 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 4: stay there, man, it's great. Come on, you know you're 258 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 4: not going to San Francisco. Yeah, oh, that kind of thing. 259 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 4: You're not going. You know it may it means something. 260 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 4: It's a gift to your family and it's it's fun 261 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 4: to give it that way. So I'm yeah, I'm sure. 262 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 4: I'm sure that was a huge consideration for him. 263 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: The other big news last night was ESPN's Field Yates 264 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: reporting that Josh Allen has helped create cap space with 265 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: a contract restructure. This was widely anticipated because of the money. 266 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: It could save. 267 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: It could have saved even more than the deal that 268 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: was struck here. But in the end, sixteen point seven 269 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: million in cap space created by the restructure of Josh 270 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: Allen's contract. He had a twenty three and a half 271 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: million dollar base salary this year, and we don't know this, 272 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: but we're presuming they converted sixteen point seven million of 273 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: that into a bonus to be amortized over the remaining 274 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: five years of the contract counting this season. This reduced 275 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 2: Allen's cap hit from forty seven million down to about 276 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: thirty million in change, as our good friend ESPN's Field 277 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 2: Gates reported last evening, so that gave them some breathing room. 278 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: Now, there are some conflicting reports out there. 279 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: The Bills are pretty close to being at cap compliance 280 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: or slightly over slightly under, depending on what salary cap 281 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: site you go to. I do think there is more 282 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: work to be done here if the Bills are going 283 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: to continue to conduct business on the free agent market. 284 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: So I don't think. 285 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: They're out of the woods yet, but this is certainly 286 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: the biggest example of cap savings they had in a 287 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: single player doing it with Josh Allen's contract. 288 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 4: One of the sites we're looking at is, of course 289 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 4: spot Track. They've got the Bills at well, let's see, 290 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 4: they had the Bills right at like an eight hundred 291 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 4: thousand right. 292 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: Meanwhile over the cap has them one and a half 293 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: over right, And yeah, so there's some conflicting numbers out there. 294 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: And it is a moving target now with each player signed, 295 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: with each player released, whatever whatever, So that's something to 296 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: keep in mind here. It's going to be a moving 297 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: target for a little while here going forward. 298 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 4: But that's the thing too, that Josh still has a 299 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: cap hit. What did you say, twenty what was it? 300 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: It was twenty three and a half base, And it's 301 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: believed we don't know this, but it's believed that they 302 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: took sixteen point seven of that twenty three million dollar 303 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: base and put it into a bonus to spread it 304 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: out over the life. 305 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: Of the deal. 306 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 4: Here's the thing. If the Bills wanted to, and we 307 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 4: all know this, if the Bills wanted to, they could 308 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 4: go all the way down to like, you know, two 309 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: million dollars of the cap hit for Josh. 310 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: Right, But at the same time, you don't want to 311 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: push too much into exactly. 312 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: So they're giving him thirty million on the cap this year, 313 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 4: which is a lower percentage than you might think for 314 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 4: some quarterbacks. But next year it balloons because of all this, 315 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 4: and they're gonna have to do this again big time. 316 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 4: So but just to be sure they got as much 317 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 4: as they wanted there, so you can tell what I'm saying, 318 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 4: I guess is the writing's on the wall. This is 319 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 4: part of their plan, and they didn't go like all 320 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 4: the way down to zero with Josh, they got plenty 321 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 4: of meat on that bone, like he's they want him 322 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 4: to take. 323 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: Some of the cap because they got it right if 324 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: they don't want to kick the entire can down the road. 325 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: They tried to exactly take on this year what they 326 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: could while still being able to conduct business. 327 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got the it's like a light switch with 328 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 4: a dimmer switch. They're just turning it up a little 329 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 4: as much as they want. And what they're gonna need 330 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 4: to get through this, Uh, they've got They're gonna have 331 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 4: enough to do their rookie Well. 332 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 2: They're projector to daybeas White maneuver in June. Reportedly is 333 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: going to save them ten million come June. 334 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 3: Second. 335 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: They can use that to sign their draft choices or 336 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 2: at least some of them, maybe not all of them. 337 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 3: If they keep all that's. 338 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 4: All coming down the line as well. 339 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: The Bills also agree to terms with defensive end aj 340 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: Epenessa on a two year deal wortha reported twelve million dollars. 341 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: NFL Networks Mike Garifalo had that first late yesterday, So 342 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: two defensive linemen for the Bills back in the fold 343 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: to help fill a cavernous hole on the defensive line. 344 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: As we told you before this free agent negotiating window opened, 345 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 2: the Bills had eight free agents of their twelve defensive 346 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: linemen on the roster in twenty twenty three. They have 347 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: now signed two of those eight back to the roster. 348 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: We know Leonard Floyd has already signed out west with 349 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 2: San Francisco, so he is no longer an option to 350 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: bring back him. Quite frankly, I don't know that they 351 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: could have afforded him anyway, and that was kind of 352 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: widely anticipated. But the other defensive lineman right now still 353 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 2: out there, So you're talking about people like Tim Settle, 354 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: Shack laws In, Lynn Val Joseph who is thirty five 355 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 2: years old, may not come back anyway, Jordan phillips poona Ford. 356 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: So that's kind of your group that's still sitting out 357 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: there right now. They'll probably more be in the second 358 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: or third wave of free agency. And you know, aj 359 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: had put together a very good season last year. More 360 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: splash plays from him, as our MSG viewers are watching 361 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 2: his interception return for a touchdown in Week three against Washington, 362 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 2: but got his hands up, batted down a lot of passes, 363 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: had two interceptions on the season for passes he tipped himself, 364 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 2: and I think he had what six and a half 365 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: seven and a half sacks six and a half I 366 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: think six and a half sacks. So I think the 367 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: way the Bills look at him, I think they believe 368 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: he was kind of a late bloomer. And you could 369 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: argue that part of that is the Bill's fault. They 370 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 2: had him moving his weight up and down, lose twenty 371 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: pounds now put half of it back on. You know, 372 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: he didn't know kind of what he was supposed to 373 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: be at defensive end. Am I an edgesetter or am 374 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: I a pass rusher? I'm rotating in, I'm rotating out? 375 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 2: So I think there was And look, they're trying to 376 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: find a role for him. I understand they feel they 377 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: have an idea what's best for him, but it seemed 378 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 2: like it took the Bills as much time to figure 379 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: out what they need from him as AJ did in 380 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: terms of finding his game. 381 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 4: There's also a thought process. He talked to guys around 382 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 4: the league, coaches and scouts around the league, and they 383 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: still think and they still think that the COVID year 384 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 4: where the guys who came in the league were just 385 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 4: in the league during twenty twenty that was his draft year. 386 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 4: Are were hampered in their development in subsequent years because 387 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 4: they almost lost to you because no training camp, right, 388 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 4: there was no training camp. They were all spread out 389 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 4: and they were all practice. It was it was an 390 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 4: entirely weird set, So they kind of lost a year 391 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 4: of development that would have helped a lot of guys. 392 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 4: And AJ at paness and that crew is just the 393 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 4: guys now that are getting the end of their contracts. 394 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: And I think guys Brown is another example. 395 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 4: AJ and Spencer Brown and those guys are you know, 396 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 4: Tommy Doyle are guys that are you know that they're 397 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 4: looking at like they're just now getting to that third 398 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 4: you know, usually we say that third year is the 399 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: magic year. This you know, this their fourth year, and 400 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 4: it kind of seems like now they're finally getting there. 401 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 4: AJ seemed to have that vibe about his game this year. 402 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 2: I think they believe there's still some ceiling there, yeah, 403 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: for him to reach. He's twenty six. I think he's 404 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: twenty six years old, so you know, still got some 405 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 2: prime years left in him, and the Bills are going 406 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: to see what he's got here in twenty twenty four. 407 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 2: Got to get to the other news of the day 408 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 2: and the big news who happened just before we came 409 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: on the air. Baltimore Ravens are signing Derek Henry. It's 410 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: reportedly a two year deal worth sixteen million dollars and really, Steve, 411 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 2: when you think about it. Over this twenty five hours 412 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: that we've been into the negotiating window, the running backs 413 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: have been the story of the free agent negotiating window, 414 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 2: due in part to the fact that it's a crummy 415 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: running back class in the draft. So a lot of 416 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: these veteran running backs are getting paid here in free agency. 417 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley to the Eagles, Dereck Henry to the Ravens, 418 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs to the Packers, Aaron Jones to the Vikings. 419 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: Joe Mixon traded to the Texans today. You may have 420 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 2: heard yesterday that he was getting released. Well, they turned 421 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: around and traded him before releasing him to the Texans. 422 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: Austin Eckler to the Commanders, DeAndre Swift to the Bears, 423 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: Tony Pollard to the Titans, Gus Edwards to the Chargers, 424 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: Zach Moss to the Bengals, Antonio Gibson to the Patriots. 425 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: I mean that is a laundry list. 426 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and. 427 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 2: How often do you see that many running backs moving 428 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: on the first day of the negotiating window. 429 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 4: Never? 430 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 3: And maybe Barkley and Henry right. 431 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 4: Right, because there's such big names and they're established players. 432 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 4: I'm with you. I think when stuff like this happens, 433 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 4: it's because all that, and it rarely does in my opinion, 434 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 4: where most of the teams, if not all the teams 435 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 4: in the league see it the same way, like the 436 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 4: draft stinks. We got to get these guys and get 437 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 4: them now. 438 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: Especially if you don't have like a top tier quarterback, 439 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: right you need somebody to carry the mail. That's why 440 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: Minnesota yesterday they lose Kirk Cousins to Atlanta in free agency, 441 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: they spin around and scoop up Aaron Jones because they're like, 442 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: we gotta get somebody that can help the offense here 443 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: because we don't know what we're doing a quarterback yet, 444 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: right or we're likely drafting one's a veteran running back 445 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: that defenses have to respect. So don't gang up on 446 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: our rookie signal caller when he's in there. 447 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: And as Minnesota also is one of those teams that 448 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 4: let their guy go about a week ago released a 449 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 4: running back that had helped him. So I think Alexander Madison, 450 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I think there is a little bit 451 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: of it that Listen, you got to have a guy, 452 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 4: but let's get let's get somebody, one of these guys 453 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 4: that's proven they can do it and is a has 454 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 4: some passable skills. Certainly, if you have a quarterback that 455 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 4: you need to protect, you know, all that stuff goes 456 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 4: into it. But I still think I do not think 457 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 4: this is a signal that the running back position is 458 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 4: coming back in importance. No, I just I think it's 459 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 4: I think it's a marketplace issue rather than rather than 460 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 4: a football. 461 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 3: Is exception rather than the rule. 462 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: But it is interesting how active NFL clubs have been 463 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: in acquiring running backs. There are reports that the Patriots 464 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 2: have been pushing hard to sign free agent wide receiver 465 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: from Jacksonville, Calvin Ridley, but word is he prefers to 466 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 2: re sign with the Jaguars, surprise, surprise, So we'll see 467 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 2: how that shakes out. I can't imagine that he sees 468 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 2: the Patriots and their current quarterback contingent of Jacoby Brissett 469 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: and Bailey Zampi as more attractive than playing with Trevor Lawrence. 470 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: So I think if the money is. 471 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: Relatively equal, I would expect Ridley to go back to 472 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 2: Jacksonville for another season. Now, let's not forget the Jaguars 473 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 2: just signed Gabe Davison free agency to a thirty nine 474 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 2: million dollar. 475 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 3: Deal over three years. 476 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: So we'll see what money they have left to pay 477 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 2: at the receiver position, and if it's not enough, maybe 478 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: Ridley does go somewhere else. 479 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Ridley's getting a lot of attention. He's going to 480 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 4: be one of the most one of the higher paid 481 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 4: wide outs on the market. And I get it. I 482 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 4: can see him. 483 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 3: Here's the really good round. 484 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 4: As a player. To me as a player, You're looking 485 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 4: at the Patriots going all right, they got a new 486 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 4: head coach, questions at quarterback, they got issues, they got 487 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 4: big issues facing them. They got a lot of question 488 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 4: marks in that franchise. You know, Belichick's gone to me, 489 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 4: I mean a Drod Mayo. I don't know, I don't know. 490 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 4: I know what I got in Jacksonville, and I know what. 491 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 4: And you always have this feeling like the team's gonna 492 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 4: fix some of its problems that have had the year before. 493 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 4: So I and I'm kind of with him. I think 494 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 4: Jacksonville will take a step forward this next year. But 495 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 4: so he's sitting there, Yeah, just give me a deal, 496 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 4: you know, just sign me please. 497 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 2: If it's the Patriots, it's gonna have to be for 498 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: a boatload of money. They're gonna have to overpay to 499 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: get people to come up there. I think, well, that's 500 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 2: the thing, is a player, you don't want to have 501 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: to make that decision. You want those teams to make 502 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: the decision for you. If you have two identical contracts, 503 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: you picked the one you want. But there's never gonna be. 504 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: They're never gonna be. In fact, Patriots are probably gonna 505 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: be significantly. 506 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 4: More because they got a ton of cash. So he 507 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 4: gotta think, I, am I gonna leave that money? Am 508 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 4: I gonna leave? And literally this say, am I gonna 509 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 4: leave a million dollars on the like over the course 510 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 4: of two year? Am I gonna leave a million dollars. 511 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 3: On the table? 512 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 4: Just so I can stay at my house? 513 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: And the Patriots have cap room so they can really 514 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 2: throw some money around if they want to. Late in 515 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: the day on Monday, the Giants sent a second and 516 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: fifth round pick to the Carolina Panthers in exchange for 517 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 2: top edge rusher Brian Burns, whom the Panthers had franchise tag. 518 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 2: Burns then was then signed by the Giants to a 519 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: five year, one hundred and forty one million dollar contract. 520 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 2: So Burns and Cavon Thibodeau on the edges with Dexter 521 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 2: Lawrence at defensive tackle for the Giants, that's a damn 522 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 2: goodof defensive line going forward for them. AFC East News 523 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 2: Dolphins have made some moves. They just signed Tampa Bay 524 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: free agent pass russer Shaq Barrett to a one year, 525 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: nine million dollar deal. They've got Jalen Phillips coming off 526 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 2: in Achilles. Bradley Chubb has an injury history, so that's 527 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 2: some depth for them there. Barrett did just have four 528 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: and a half sacks and sixteen games season, and he's 529 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: going to turn thirty two in November, so there is 530 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: some risk there. Miami also signed Titans free agent center 531 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 2: Aaron Brewer to a three year deal, so they're trying 532 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 2: to shore up their offensive line to Ron Armstead is 533 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: supposed to be coming back next season. 534 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 3: That's the decision on ar. 535 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: I Thinkuy's been playing on one leg for like two 536 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: years now, but I guess he's going to try to 537 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 2: make it work. Meanwhile, the Jets got a better answer 538 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 2: at backup quarterback. They signed free agent veteran Tyrod Taylor 539 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 2: from across the street with the Giants to back up 540 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. Taylor turns thirty five later this year. They 541 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: also helped their offensive line. They signed Baltimore free agent 542 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: guard John Simpson to a two year deal. He was 543 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: a starter for the Ravens last year. And then they 544 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 2: beefed up their defensive line with free agent defensive tackle 545 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 2: Javon Kinlaw, who is reunited with his former DC Robert 546 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: Sala when they were together in San Francisco. And then 547 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: they just signed Lecky Foto, a free agent defensive tackle 548 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: who goes three hundred and thirty five pounds from the 549 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals. So defensive line more of a focus than 550 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: their offensive line so far, and that seems dubious to me. 551 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 2: And the Patriots signed a quarterback. They're bringing back a 552 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: signal caller they drafted in the third round in twenty sixteen, 553 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett, on a one year, eight million dollar contract. 554 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: So that's kind of the nuts and bolts of the AFC, say. 555 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 4: What how about a study in survivorism. Jacoby Brissett. 556 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: I think he's played for like five or six teams. 557 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, he's he's becoming the Ryan Fitzpatrick of his generation. 558 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 4: He's just here's the thing about Jacoby, and I think 559 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 4: most people kind of know that's he is one of 560 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 4: the all times superhuman being. Just an awesome dude, great leadership, 561 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 4: happy guy, great locker room guy, good athletic skills. Never 562 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 4: really has never really taken it to the next level 563 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 4: as a quarterback, but certainly a guy who knows his 564 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 4: role and will maximize too. He more than serviceable. You'll 565 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 4: be able to win some games with him if you've 566 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 4: got a roster. And of course Alex van Pelt, now 567 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator of New England, worked with him in 568 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 4: Cleveland this past y year and liked him, and. 569 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 3: So it'll be. 570 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 4: And also when you got that dynamics, as we can 571 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 4: figure out, he knows the offense, Alex van Pelt's gonna 572 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 4: install in New England already, so he can come in 573 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 4: and whatever quarterback is going to take snaps, if it's 574 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 4: not Jacoby himself, Jacoby's gonna be able to help the 575 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 4: guy assimilate that information and play better. 576 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 2: Biggest deal of the day so far today goes to 577 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: a wide receiver. Atlanta signs wide receiver Darnell Mooney away 578 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: from the Bears three years thirty nine million, almost identical 579 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: to the Gabe Davis deel yesterday. And then a couple 580 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: of former Bills. Devin Singletary signed with the Giants yesterday 581 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: three years, sixteen million. Nice deal for him, rejoins Brian Dable. 582 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 2: Knows that offense, so that makes sense. And then Nahim 583 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: Hines signing a one year deal with Cleveland for three 584 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: and a half million dollars. Obviously, Hines, the victim of 585 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: a bad jet ski accident that was in his fall, 586 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: tore his ACL in the accident last summer, missed all 587 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: of last season for the Bills, and with a cap 588 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: figure that was cost prohibitive, he was a cap casualty 589 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: of the Bills last week on Wednesday when they released 590 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: five players. Last note here in the world of compensatory picks, 591 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: apparently the NFL can make amendments. A lot of Bills 592 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: fans were up in arms. I was two when the 593 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 2: Bills were only awarded a fourth round compensatory for the 594 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: loss of Tremaine Edmunds in free agency, the NFL announced 595 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: today they're making a correction with this year's compensatory picks. 596 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 2: The Cincinnati Bengals are going to get an extra third 597 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: round pick instead of the first of two sixth rounders 598 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: that they received. Initially, Cincinnati lost both starting safeties Jesse 599 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: Bates Von Bell, and they also lost a couple other players, 600 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 2: so they had a net loss of free agents of 601 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: minus two and they were initially awarded just two sixes. 602 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: They changed that give them a six and a three. 603 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 2: I'd love for somebody to lobby them to change Buffalo's 604 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: four two a three, But stranger things have happened. I 605 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: didn't know you could amend those, and here they go, 606 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 2: like the leagues are bad, we'll fix this one. 607 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 3: Well, fix this one too. Make the Bills forth a 608 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 3: third please? 609 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 4: Or how about getting it right? The first time, Tremaine. 610 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: Edmonds contract was bigger than Jesse Bates, So yeah, I 611 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: don't know. So it's just something to think about. Take 612 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: it under consideration. 613 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 3: Please. 614 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: Topic of discussion for you today before we get to 615 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: break here, what's your next move for the Bills in 616 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: free agency? Doesn't necessarily need to be a signing. Maybe 617 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: it's a contract extension for somebody on the roster. Maybe 618 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: you think trade is the way to go, knowing they're 619 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: tight against the cat. Maybe it's dollars out with a 620 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 2: player for dollars in. So BRGM for the day, what's 621 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 2: your next move for the Bills here in the free 622 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: agent negotiating period? Eight three five point fifty one eight 623 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two five fifty the number to 624 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 2: get on board. It can hit us up on the 625 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: tweet sheet at One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker 626 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: here with you on day two of the free agent 627 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 2: negotiating period One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health Fit's 628 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One Bill's 629 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: Live here day two of the free agent negotiating window 630 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: before the league year officially starts tomorrow and contracts can 631 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: be signed officially. Keeping our nose to the grindstone on 632 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: details and signings coming down the pike. Biggest one today 633 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: is probably Derrick Henry, who signs with the Baltimore Ravens 634 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: on a two year, sixteen million dollar agreement, or he'll 635 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: sign tomorrow, I guess I. 636 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 3: Should say, but we are asking you. 637 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: You know, the Bills have made some moves here, tried 638 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: to plug a couple of holes on the defensive line, 639 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: agreeing to terms with Daikwon Jones and aj Epenessa, two 640 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 2: of their eight free agents along the defensive line. We 641 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: know that there are reports out there that they have 642 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 2: re signed Cam Lewis, and we also know that there 643 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 2: are some cap maneuvers that they've made to this point. 644 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,239 Speaker 2: They extended Deon Dawkins, they had Josh Allen helped them 645 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: out with some cap stuff, and they resigned Taylor Rapp 646 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 2: early in this process as well, before they even got 647 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: to the free agent negotiating window late last week. So 648 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 2: with all of that in mind, we're asking you today, BGM, 649 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: for the day, what's your next move for the Bills 650 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 2: in free agency, Whether it's signing a player, maybe a 651 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 2: contract extension for somebody, maybe it's a trade dollars out 652 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 2: for dollars in. Knowing they're tight against the camp, you 653 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 2: let us know at eight zho three zero five to 654 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: fifty won eight eight eight five fifty two five to fifty. 655 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: I'll tell you, Steve the thing I'm doing first, because 656 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: it's pretty evident they're tight on the cap right now 657 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 2: with some of these agreements that they've handed out to 658 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 2: Daikwon and aj would I would give a contract extension 659 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 2: to Taron Johnson. He's in the last year of his 660 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 2: deal right now, and he is I believe, Yeah, I 661 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: got it here. He is a twelve point four million 662 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 2: dollar cap figure for the Bills. If you sign him 663 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: to an extension, he's only twenty eight. Sign him to 664 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: an extension three years, whatever you want to do, you 665 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: can reduce that cap figure and help yourself again here, 666 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,919 Speaker 2: this guy was second team All Pro last season. He's 667 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 2: in the prime of his career. 668 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 3: So and he's a dog. 669 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and not only that, I think he's one 670 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: of your veteran leaders on this defense now with Poyer 671 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 2: and hide out the door. So I would give Taron 672 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 2: Johnson a contract extension and reduce his cap figure to 673 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 2: give you some cap relief this year and go that route. 674 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: That would be my next move as a Bills GM. 675 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 4: His cap hits twelve million this year. 676 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, with all the. 677 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 4: Stuff he's got, he was in the last year of 678 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 4: his deal. He was in the last year of his deal, 679 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 4: so yeah, it might be it would probably be the 680 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 4: time to do it. Extend him if he's twenty, if 681 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 4: he's going to be twenty eight, extend him to his 682 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 4: thirty second year, thirty two year old him a. 683 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 3: Four year deal? 684 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 4: Why not? 685 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 3: Why not? I'm fine with that. 686 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 4: And you know you can you can manage the cap 687 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 4: inside that however you want. But just keep on keeping on. 688 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 7: That would give you the. 689 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: Is there something else that you would prefer to do 690 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 2: even before that? 691 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 4: No, I think that's I You can. You can extend 692 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 4: guys and it's nice and it helps, and I don't 693 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 4: know if I'd extend guys like Terran or or reworked 694 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 4: deals for the same money. Either way, you can manipulate 695 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 4: the cap. And for those people who are cap nerds, 696 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 4: you kind of get what I'm saying. 697 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like this one because he's in the last year, 698 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 2: so you don't have to eat anything from this deal. 699 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 3: You just tear it up and start over, you know 700 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 3: what I mean. 701 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 2: Right, Whereas if you have somebody that's still got three 702 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 2: years left, now you got to move a lot of 703 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 2: that around, and you know there's some can kicking. 704 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 4: He would have it. If they cut him, he'd have 705 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 4: a dead cap of four point seven. So you gotta 706 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 4: that's gonna go on there. 707 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: But I still think there's you know, an extension almost 708 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 2: makes too much sense here. Like we were looking at 709 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 2: I remember when we were when we got to the 710 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 2: end of the season and we started looking at the 711 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 2: Bill's cap situation and contracts. We said, two players who 712 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: make a lot of sense for contract extensions, Dion Dawkins 713 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 2: and Taron Johnson. So it wouldn't shock me at all 714 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 2: if Taron Johnson is a move to give themselves some 715 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: more cap room so they can conduct business, sign their 716 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 2: draft glass, et cetera, et cetera. 717 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 4: They can do the same thing, and it might be 718 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 4: smarter to do somebody like. 719 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 2: Like Milano, right, he goes on coming back from injury, 720 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 2: though I think makes that a little dicey. 721 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 3: Don't you. 722 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 4: Well, the only reason I do it now is because 723 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 4: his coming back you have, you have the leverage, you 724 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 4: know what I mean. I mean, he's and he's he 725 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 4: might be willing to take a little bit extra money now, 726 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 4: not knowing how it's going to go when he comes 727 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 4: back and all that. 728 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 3: That's not a bad point. Yeah, So. 729 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 4: You could do that as well and broach the subject 730 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 4: with him because and what this means for fans who 731 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 4: are kind of glaze over when we start talking about 732 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 4: these numbers, what they do is the player will always 733 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,919 Speaker 4: be up for it, because we're not talking about giving 734 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 4: him a pay cut or anything like that. What it 735 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 4: is is bookkeeping. Whereas you give them the money now, 736 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 4: they put it in their pocket, or you give them 737 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 4: less money now, but you guarantee them more money in 738 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 4: the future than you're guaranteeing them now. So like if 739 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 4: you're on a three year deal and you're guaranteed to 740 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 4: see whatever ten million bucks, how about how about a 741 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 4: four year deal. You're not getting very much this year, 742 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 4: but over the life of the thing, we're gonna guarantee 743 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 4: that you're gonna get fifteen. Right, we guarantee you're gonna 744 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 4: get it, but it's not gonna be for another couple 745 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 4: of years. You have to wait on a little bit. 746 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 3: You take it, you take it, I get it. 747 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 2: We should mention before we get to the phones here. 748 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 2: Coming up in the second hour of the show, we 749 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 2: will have the aj Epanessa press conference. He will be 750 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 2: addressing the media via zoom. We will bring that to 751 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 2: you live here in the second hour of the show, 752 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 2: so be sure to stay tuned for that. But in 753 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 2: the meantime, we go to the phones and find out 754 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 2: what your next move for the Bills is. And we 755 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 2: lead off today with Bobby and cheek Towaga. 756 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 3: What do you got for us? Bobby here on One 757 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:51,439 Speaker 3: Bill's Live. 758 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 8: How do a guy's good afternoon afternoon? 759 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 9: Is branded? 760 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 5: Bed? Ever? 761 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 9: Gonna bring a big power running back for this offense? 762 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 9: Just look at all these moves you bettioned the last 763 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 9: couple of days, or as Josh Allen our power. I 764 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 9: I kind. 765 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 4: Of doubt it, Bobby. I think he would have big 766 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 4: money if the if the guy came up and he 767 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 4: popped up, you could draft him in the right spot 768 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 4: and all that. Yeah, he probably wouldn't hesitate to do it. 769 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 4: But he's not going to go out and look for 770 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 4: one and find him no matter what, because they just 771 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 4: not that important in the NFL anymore. You're not going 772 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 4: to make it a priority. It is a priority, word 773 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 4: is It's if you get a good running back, doesn't 774 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 4: matter if he's a big guy or a little guy. 775 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 4: You use a skill set in the offense. 776 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 2: I mean they had one in Latavius Murray last year. 777 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 2: His legs got a little tired as a thirty three 778 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 2: year old in the second half of the season. Would 779 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 2: you consider Ty Johnson a power back. I think I 780 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 2: was got some jews power back with some jews and 781 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 2: some receiving ability. I know they liked a lot of 782 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 2: what he did for them last year. I wouldn't be 783 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 2: surprised if he is on their radar to come back. 784 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,760 Speaker 2: He might not be a traditional Derek Henry two hundred 785 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 2: and forty seven pound behemoth, but he's got some power. 786 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 3: He goes to fifteen. 787 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, there ain't no Jim There ain't no Jim Brown's 788 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 4: out there, and Derrick Henry's are once in a lifetime 789 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,959 Speaker 4: kind of once in a generation guys too, and even 790 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 4: Derrick Henry. The Bills ain't gonna pay a guy eight 791 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 4: million bucks a year to play running back, right, just 792 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 4: for the for the reason you said they can do 793 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 4: without it. When push comes to shove, number seventeen will 794 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 4: push and shove, or they've got guys like Nahim Heines, 795 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 4: Ty Johnson and of course James Cook, so they'll yeah 796 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 4: for me. I get it. People want to running back 797 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 4: that they know when they hand it off, he's gonna 798 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 4: get two yard or whatever. Shorty okay, but there's just 799 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 4: too many times when that doesn't help. You need a 800 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 4: different guy. 801 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 2: There's a dime a dozen't if he's not going to 802 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 2: be your future guy either. James Cook's your future guy. 803 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 4: Me and I've said this a ton of brownie always 804 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 4: poo poo. Just stick Kyle Williams back there and hand 805 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 4: in the ball, right. Put Put David Edwards back there, 806 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 4: hand in the ball. Put put Dawson Knox back there, 807 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 4: hand in the ball. Put a big dude back put 808 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 4: day Kwon Jones back there, Give him the ball and 809 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 4: let him pound it in there for you know, six steps. 810 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 4: It ain't that hard. And I get it. You know 811 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 4: he's not, you know, not not going to run anybody out, 812 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 4: run anybody fifteen yards to the touch for a touchdown, 813 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 4: let alone, you know, seventy five yards. These guys all 814 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 4: play balls since they were kids. And most of these guys, 815 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 4: even the big dudes, carried the ball at some time 816 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,439 Speaker 4: point in their career, whether it was their first game 817 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 4: as a pony league kid or whether it was in college. 818 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 4: Most of these guys have handled the ball at some 819 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 4: point in their career. And it's not rocket science. I 820 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 4: mean everybody's like, well, no, give him the ball and 821 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 4: let him pound it in there. Stop you. You didn't 822 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 4: have to outrun anybody. All you got to do is 823 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 4: get to the line of scrimmage and throw some weight. 824 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,720 Speaker 2: It's like a political campaign for Steve. 825 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 3: Give it to the big fella. 826 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 4: Just give it to the fat guy, I would do. 827 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 2: We are up against the break here, but we've got 828 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 2: more of your phone calls as we are asking you, 829 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 2: BGM for the day. What's your next move for the 830 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 2: Bills here in this free agent negotiating period? Could be 831 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 2: a player, a position you have in mind, could be 832 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 2: some cap clearing move that you think is necessary here, 833 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 2: whatever is on your mind, tell us what your next 834 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 2: move is for the Bills in free agency. When we 835 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 2: return here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida healtht 836 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 2: S Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here on One 837 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 2: Bill's Live, Day two of the free agent negotiating period. 838 00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 2: The market opens tomorrow and players will be able to 839 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 2: put pen to paper and sign the agreements their agents 840 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 2: have set up for them here on these first two 841 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 2: days of the week, as the league here begins in 842 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 2: earnest tomorrow at four pm. But let's get back to 843 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 2: the phones at eight oh three, five fifty as we 844 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 2: want to know if your bills GM for the day, 845 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 2: what is your next move for the Bills in the 846 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 2: wake of some of the things that they've done so far, 847 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 2: resigning Daikwon, Jones, Aja Panessa, So you. 848 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 3: Let us know. 849 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 2: At eight oh three, five fifty, let's go to Marvin 850 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 2: in Tanawanda next. 851 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 3: What's up Marvin? 852 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 10: All, good afternoon, guys. I appreciate you taking the call. Sure, 853 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 10: you guys are gonna and you know, Steve, you use 854 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 10: pooh pooh sale got that from me, so you could 855 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 10: use You could use my phrase that I got in 856 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 10: a conversation with Seal before. But what I would do 857 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 10: when you guys are not going to like it, I 858 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 10: would uh get rid of Milano. I love Milano, great 859 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 10: player coming off an injury. I think it's it would 860 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 10: be the bestness of the Bills if they could unload Malone. 861 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 10: And I love the player, great player, but he's thirty 862 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 10: years old coming off a big injury, and I think 863 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 10: that would be a smart move. 864 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 2: Tell me, tell me quickly, Marvin, why you think there 865 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 2: would be another team that would be interested in taking 866 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 2: what you You kind of Deem as a declining question 867 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 2: mark of a health prospect off your hands for you. 868 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 10: Well, I don't think he's declining. I think that I 869 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 10: think coming off injury and being thirty years old, I mean, 870 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 10: you have how many linebackers are out there in their 871 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 10: thirties that are being really productive. So I really believe 872 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 10: that there is value to him. He's a great player. 873 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 3: Well he's gone. 874 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 4: I'll say this, he's only twenty eight. 875 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,359 Speaker 10: No, he's thirty, twenty nine, He's gonna be thirty by 876 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 10: I checked all this out. 877 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 7: Nice. 878 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 4: The one I'm looking at right now says he's twenty eight. 879 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 4: Uh turn it, yeah, okay, well whatever, yeah, okay, So. 880 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 10: He's going to be thirty. So he's thirty and there's 881 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 10: not too many linebackers at thirty. Like and I said, 882 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 10: he's a great player. I would hate to do it 883 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 10: but for money, and you know, the youth moment, Kansas 884 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 10: City did the best thing. I mean, they show with 885 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 10: Tyreek Hill what they could do as far as get 886 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 10: rid of a great player. 887 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 2: And still I just think it's going to be tough Marvin, 888 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 2: knowing his injury situation. I mean, Brandon Bean told us 889 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 2: at the combine he's not going to be even on 890 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 2: the field until the pads are back on. 891 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 3: That means training camp. 892 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be very hard to move a 893 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 2: player with an injury situation like that if he can't 894 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 2: even pass a physical. That's the fly in the ointment here. 895 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 2: I respect where you're coming from. It's an idea for sure. 896 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 2: I just think you've got a major roadblock in your 897 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 2: way in the form. 898 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:55,760 Speaker 3: Of the injury. 899 00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 2: I think that kind of compromises your whole idea. Other 900 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 2: gms are are not going to take Matt Milano if 901 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 2: they don't know if he can be the old Matt Milano, 902 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 2: if that makes any sense. So because of that question mark, 903 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 2: I think that's an uphill climb. And just for the record, 904 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 2: he is twenty nine and two hundred and twenty eight 905 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 2: days old. He will he will turn thirty this season. 906 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 4: July twenty eighth, he turns thirty. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, 907 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 4: I'm not getting rid of Mat Milano. 908 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 2: I get you not to mention the fact you're creating 909 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 2: a hole at a place where you already have a 910 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 2: couple of free agents, Tyler Mattikaevich, Tyrel Dodson. We know 911 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 2: AJ Klein's not coming back. He was essentially retired. But 912 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 2: you basically have Milano, Dorian Williams, Bayle, inspector Terrell Bernard. 913 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 2: That's all you have at the linebacker spot right now. 914 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 2: To create another hole, I don't know. 915 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna find, you know, right his dead cap hit 916 00:46:54,640 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 4: would be his dead cap is twenty nine million getting 917 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 4: rid of him. 918 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you urse him back to health. 919 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 4: But even if you trade him. 920 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 3: Still be a sizeable hit. 921 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're still gonna get whacked with the salary. 922 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,399 Speaker 3: Cat, which you can't really do right now. 923 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 2: Uh, let's go back to the phones and we go 924 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 2: to Butch in East Buffalo. 925 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 3: What do you got for us? Butcher? We're up against 926 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 3: the break, just so you know, real. 927 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 8: Quick, all right, real fast, I'm gonna get right into it. 928 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 4: Uh. 929 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 8: First of all, I want to say congratulations to Brandon Bean. 930 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 8: Just seven days ago we were weigh we have about 931 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 8: fifty one million dollars above the cat and him to 932 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,720 Speaker 8: go ahead and trimming down like he was cutting grass 933 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 8: to where we are right now, whereas lease is respectable. 934 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 8: People can look at your house now is good. But 935 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 8: I just wanted to say this now real fast. Is 936 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 8: dy Kawhan Jones, you got your bag. Keon Dalkers, you 937 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 8: got your bag. Now you two guys have to get 938 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 8: in the weight room and start getting start getting bigger, 939 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 8: shout to start getting shape. He then gave you your money. 940 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 8: Get in shape for the team. Now moving putting past that, 941 00:47:55,600 --> 00:48:00,879 Speaker 8: moving forward for this upcoming draft real fast by Sean 942 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 8: mc derry, be one on the committee. I had I 943 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 8: have a feeling that Brandon being new when when the 944 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,240 Speaker 8: picks was coming out, you weren't gonna get a thirties. 945 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 8: We get a fourth based off the movement that he 946 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 8: was making moves prior to that. Don't be surprised with 947 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 8: the twentieth selection by I was not having a third 948 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 8: round pick. And I've been saying this to you guys 949 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,800 Speaker 8: earlier that we might move back. I really be looking 950 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 8: after this Brian Burne situation over in Carolina when they 951 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 8: traded him to the New York Giants with with Sean, 952 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,399 Speaker 8: I mean, with Bayball and those guys, and they got 953 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 8: an extra extra two and extra five. I wouldn't be 954 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,879 Speaker 8: surprised that Buffalo moved back out of the first round, 955 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 8: first picked his second round with Carolina and pick up 956 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 8: them number two twos in one of the five and 957 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 8: we call it a day. I'm just something to look at. 958 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 8: I still believe that we're going to get a center. 959 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,839 Speaker 8: I still say JP JP J might be our guy, 960 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 8: but at the same time, I really believe it. I'm 961 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 8: gonna let you guys go, and thank you so much 962 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 8: for taking my call. Is that I really believe this 963 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,360 Speaker 8: money that we were speaking about making as being general 964 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 8: manager for a day is I think he got three 965 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,479 Speaker 8: moves left. The one that if the debits at tackle 966 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 8: for Jacksonville, he already became a visitor already. I really 967 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 8: believe he's looking at a wide receiver. And then the 968 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 8: last but not least, the cut that I'm gonna make 969 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 8: to add along with that money is get rid of Martin, 970 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 8: Sam Martin. Before the day's I was just say that 971 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 8: two point five million dollars plus if I have to, 972 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 8: I'll look at I'll look at Ed Oliver for another extension. 973 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,279 Speaker 8: But thank you so much for taking my call. I 974 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 8: love MSG, I love WG, I love all the fans, 975 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 8: and you guys definitely know. I love you guys there 976 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 8: at the studio, But just something to think about, appreciate you. 977 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 3: Thanks. 978 00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a lot baked in there. I will 979 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 2: say that, uh, I don't see Oliver as a candidate 980 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 2: because they just sign up to an extension last year, 981 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 2: So you're pretty early on in that one. Not saying 982 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 2: you couldn't, but I just think it's unlikely. Sam Martin, Yeah, 983 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 2: a lot of people are speculating with the signing of 984 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 2: Matt Hawk. Does that mean you know that Sam Martin 985 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 2: shouldn't be buying any green bananas. 986 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 3: I don't know. We got to find out. 987 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 2: I think his cap savings is only about eight hundred 988 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 2: thousand dollars, though I don't think it's his full salary 989 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 2: because he's got another year after this one, so I'll 990 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,440 Speaker 2: double check that for you, Butch, but I don't think 991 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 2: it's the full two point five left on the deal. 992 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,399 Speaker 2: But yeah, they've got some more maneuvering to do because 993 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 2: they're still right near the cap here if they want 994 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,719 Speaker 2: to do more business either in free agency. They know 995 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 2: they got ten million down the line from the Trudavious 996 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 2: anticipated release in June to help sign their draft class. 997 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, work still to be done. 998 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,359 Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but when we come back, 999 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,839 Speaker 2: we hope to provide you live coverage of aj Epines's 1000 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 2: press conference with the media via zoom. That'll come up 1001 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 2: here an hour number two on One Bill's Live presented 1002 00:50:47,120 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 2: by Coalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. 1003 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,320 Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Calllida Helth. 1004 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 2: All Right, welcome to our number two here on Tuesday. 1005 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 2: Chris Brown Steve Tasker with you as we are into 1006 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 2: day two of the free agent negotiating period. The league 1007 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 2: year begins tomorrow at four. But agreeing to terms with 1008 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 2: the Bills on a two year contract late yesterday was 1009 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 2: aj Epanessa. 1010 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 3: He's addressing the media. 1011 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 11: Now, what's up Aja? Congratulations on staying in Buffalo. Why 1012 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 11: did you want to continue your career with the Bills? 1013 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 12: You know, personally, I feel like we just left a 1014 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 12: lot of meat on the bone. There's a lot of 1015 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 12: success out there to be had, and it's hard to 1016 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 12: leave such a great organization, you know, they do a 1017 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,399 Speaker 12: lot of things right up there in Buffalo, and having 1018 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,839 Speaker 12: a great quarterback under center like seventeen, it's hard to leave. 1019 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 12: And there's just there's just a lot of great people 1020 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 12: around there that I've built a lot of good connections with. 1021 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 13: So I'm really looking forward to being back. 1022 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 11: The Bills have a new defensive coordinator now and Bobby Babbage. 1023 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,319 Speaker 11: I know he's a familiar face among the defense. So 1024 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 11: why is Bobby the right guy to be at that 1025 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 11: defensive coordinator spot. 1026 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,839 Speaker 12: Yeah, he's as you guys probably won't know, Bobby's our 1027 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 12: energy guy. You know, he brings the juice every day. 1028 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 12: He starts the mornings off juiced up, you know. So 1029 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 12: he really brings the energy every day. And he's a 1030 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 12: guy we all love, all care about, and he has 1031 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 12: a lot of passion for us as players in this 1032 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 12: h this organization, Buffalo Bills. So with that love and passion, 1033 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 12: with his intensity and with his attention to detail, you know, 1034 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 12: we'll have a lot of success under him. 1035 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,439 Speaker 11: And then you guys also have a new defensive line 1036 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 11: coach and Marcus West. What does he bring to the table? 1037 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:03,280 Speaker 10: Uh? 1038 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:03,959 Speaker 13: Coach West? 1039 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 12: You know, he's going to give us the ability to 1040 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 12: get out there and rush for ourselves, let us have 1041 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 12: our personality when we get out there and play, and 1042 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,280 Speaker 12: just really let us be us. You know, he's gonna 1043 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 12: kind of let the dogs out, let us, let us 1044 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 12: be free a little bit, and just let us get 1045 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 12: after last one. 1046 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,320 Speaker 11: For me, aj you guys. You yourself had a career 1047 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 11: season last year. What's next for this defensive line group 1048 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 11: as a whole. You bring back some familiar faces like 1049 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 11: yourself and Daikwon Jones, you got von Miller and at 1050 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 11: Oliver in the fold. What's next for this group? 1051 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 13: Yeah? 1052 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 12: You know, I mean, this guy's the limit and beyond. 1053 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 12: You know, we've done some great things as a defensive 1054 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 12: line and as a defense. But I mean we're trending 1055 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 12: upwards as a defensive line to all of us players 1056 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 12: individually and as a unit, and I can just see 1057 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:51,800 Speaker 12: us continuing that and just keep making those strides awesome. 1058 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 11: Thanks again, congrats, Thank you. 1059 00:53:53,680 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 14: Maddie, heyj congratulations. Kind of just curious about like what 1060 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 14: this last week was like for you, or even just 1061 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 14: the free agency as a whole, Just kind of what 1062 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 14: was this process like from your perspective. 1063 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:08,880 Speaker 13: Yeah, you know it was. 1064 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 12: It was definitely weird going into it free agency. You 1065 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,439 Speaker 12: know a lot of things are in the dark. 1066 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 13: It just kind of. 1067 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,839 Speaker 12: Wondering what teams are gonna want you, and wondering what 1068 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 12: teams are gonna if Buffalo's gonna want. 1069 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 13: You back in my situation, you know, So. 1070 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 12: It was definitely keeping me on my toes until this 1071 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 12: past Monday until yesterday, you know, so just just being 1072 00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 12: anxious and looking forward to it. But it's been exciting 1073 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 12: and I'm really pleased with how it turned out. 1074 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,840 Speaker 14: You mentioned some of the reasons why you wanted to 1075 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 14: be back in Buffalo. What did it mean for them 1076 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,439 Speaker 14: to also want you to come back here? 1077 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:42,439 Speaker 13: You know, it means a lot. 1078 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,720 Speaker 12: And like I've said before, Buffalo's a team that drafted 1079 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 12: me to took a chance on me, wanted to come 1080 00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 12: into the league, and they believed in me from the 1081 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,759 Speaker 12: very beginning. So it's a team I have a lot 1082 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,720 Speaker 12: of loyalties too, and a lot of love for awesome. 1083 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,280 Speaker 13: Thanks, congrats, Thank you. 1084 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 15: Hey Ajking, congratulations. I'm curious for you, Like you just 1085 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 15: talked about not knowing until very recently, like kind of 1086 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 15: how it was going to go. This is the first 1087 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:09,319 Speaker 15: time you've dealt with that. 1088 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,000 Speaker 13: What was it? 1089 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 15: How did you kind of process the last month and 1090 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,600 Speaker 15: a half or so, like to not think about it 1091 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 15: too much, or how did you kind of approach it? 1092 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 12: Yeah, during the season, you know, I kind of just 1093 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 12: try to put it on the back burner. But now 1094 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,000 Speaker 12: the off season had started, you know, I started trying 1095 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 12: to think forward, what's in my future for me and 1096 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 12: my family. I'm in for my career, uh personally, and 1097 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,879 Speaker 12: so since a lot of it was in the dark, 1098 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 12: you know, I just definitely, I definitely had a lot 1099 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 12: of unknowns, a little anxieties and angst about me, you know, 1100 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 12: just looking forward to really about what my next step 1101 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,719 Speaker 12: would be or where my next home would be. And 1102 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,479 Speaker 12: I'm just I'm very happy that it's in Buffalo and 1103 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 12: being able to be around people that I know and 1104 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 12: love and I care about it. It'll mean a lot to 1105 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 12: play the game there. 1106 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,799 Speaker 15: Still, when you hear like a guy like Day one's 1107 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 15: also coming back and you guys are like announced right 1108 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 15: around the same time, is did you talk to him 1109 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 15: at all? Like how cool is that you're both coming back? 1110 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:00,919 Speaker 13: Yeah. 1111 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 12: No, we were in pretty constant communication throughout this process. 1112 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 12: A lot a lot for me calling him just on 1113 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,120 Speaker 12: veteran leadership, just kind of get his opinion on some 1114 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 12: advice and just how to think things over and how 1115 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,520 Speaker 12: to process things mentally. And it's great having a guy 1116 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 12: like kwanback just because of his on field and off 1117 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 12: field leadership and just his friendship overall as well. 1118 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 15: And then one last thing for me. We talked a 1119 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 15: lot about last year, like the confidence you had and 1120 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 15: like taking that step forward as you're going into this 1121 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,399 Speaker 15: next season. Is there anything you're like, Wow, I really 1122 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 15: want to build upon this last season, like specific things 1123 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 15: that you're looking to kind of now that you're not 1124 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 15: even be with the same defense, back with the same 1125 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,879 Speaker 15: coaches like most of them, Like, how are you kind 1126 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,799 Speaker 15: of approaching the next step now? 1127 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 13: Yeah? 1128 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,920 Speaker 12: I would say my goals for sure this year is 1129 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 12: I want to earn a starting spot on the defensive 1130 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 12: line and continue progressing my game with stats, you know, 1131 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 12: whether that be more sacks, more snaps, and just overall production. 1132 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,800 Speaker 12: So I'm ready for more and I'm looking forward to 1133 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 12: taking on more responsibility. 1134 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,400 Speaker 15: Awesome, congrats again, Yeah. 1135 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 5: Thank you. 1136 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 7: Hey j How are you man? Good? 1137 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 13: How are you doing, brother? 1138 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:15,359 Speaker 7: I'm good. Congratulations on the deal. First of all, apologize, 1139 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:16,400 Speaker 7: but I'm driving here. 1140 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 16: Take me into last season a little bit, because you know, 1141 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 16: you had some moments that were were so big, big 1142 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 16: time plays and big games, but it never seemed like it. 1143 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 7: Fully fully clicked for you. 1144 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 16: Did you get that feeling at the end of the 1145 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 16: season or just take me through the whole season how 1146 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:36,400 Speaker 16: it went for you. 1147 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean through every NFL season, there's ebbs and flows, 1148 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 12: there's highs and lows, And I agree with you. I 1149 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 12: think throughout the season, all the way up into the 1150 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 12: Kansas City, I had a really good groove going. I 1151 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 12: was beaming with confidence, playing some really good football. And 1152 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 12: then I was out for a couple of weeks too 1153 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 12: in my rib And not that I think that knocked 1154 00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 12: me out of a rhythm or anything, but coming back 1155 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 12: from that, it kind of took a little longer than 1156 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 12: I had anticipated, just with the injury itself coming back, 1157 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 12: But I think the big thing for me is just 1158 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 12: keeping that confidence, keeping that swagger throughout the whole season. 1159 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 12: Maybe a little bit of a lull at the end there, 1160 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 12: I think, kind of just with that little hiccup throughout 1161 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 12: the season. 1162 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 13: By my rhythm. 1163 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 12: But one thing I think is just keeping that consistency 1164 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,440 Speaker 12: and keeping it through the seventeen weeks and beyond. 1165 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 16: And then if you look at the room that you're 1166 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 16: coming back to now with Leonard in San Francisco, you 1167 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 16: kind of alluded to it there a little bit, but 1168 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 16: do you feel like there's huge opportunity for you and 1169 00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 16: this defense, and that was that part of the conversations 1170 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 16: for you to take another step with maybe a larger 1171 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 16: role waiting for you. 1172 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,480 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think during these past four years, I've I've 1173 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,439 Speaker 12: made my transition, grown a lot as a football player 1174 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 12: and as a man, I matured, and I think this season, 1175 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 12: I think personally I'm ready for some more. And you know, 1176 00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 12: it's always got to be proven. It's always got to 1177 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 12: go out there and take it mentality. So that's the 1178 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,919 Speaker 12: mentality I'm taking going forward, and that's how I'm. 1179 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 13: Gonna be work. 1180 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 16: And you also already talked about this a little bit, 1181 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,000 Speaker 16: but you know, the free agency period, I remember talking 1182 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 16: to you back. 1183 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 7: In December early early on. 1184 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 16: You know, just the unknown of going into this final 1185 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 16: stretch not knowing where you might be playing next season. 1186 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 16: Was that weighed on you at all, Like the last 1187 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 16: couple of weeks and months here after the season, just 1188 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 16: the uncertainty of it all. 1189 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 13: I mean definitely the anxiety part. 1190 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 12: You know, it definitely gets me thinking of just the 1191 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 12: unknown is gets you moving a little bit. 1192 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 13: But I did. 1193 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 12: I think I did a good job of just kind 1194 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,360 Speaker 12: of being open minded, putting a lot of faith and 1195 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 12: trust in my agent and him doing what he does 1196 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,440 Speaker 12: and having that constant communication, you know, so that we're 1197 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 12: being very honest with each other to open about what 1198 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,480 Speaker 12: expectations and what things are real when it comes to 1199 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 12: contract negotiations and things like that. 1200 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 7: And last one for me, what was yesterday like? Was it? 1201 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 7: What was the market? What you hoped for? 1202 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 16: Was it a situation where the bill just came in 1203 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 16: and let them let you know how much they wanted 1204 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 16: you back? 1205 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 7: What was that final process? Like? 1206 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 13: Sorry, it was an interesting process. 1207 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 6: You know. 1208 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 12: It's some obviously I've never experienced before and something that 1209 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 12: definitely made me have to think about, Uh, just make 1210 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 12: hard decisions and make uh decisions on a kind of 1211 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 12: a short notice. But whenever Buffalo came in with the 1212 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 12: offer and be in here for the past four years, 1213 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 12: knowing that they have something so special, it was easy 1214 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,560 Speaker 12: to try to make that decision and just want to 1215 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 12: come back here. 1216 01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 7: Was a hard decision. Maybe more money elsewhere? 1217 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,720 Speaker 16: I'm sorry, was the hard decision like, maybe more money 1218 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 16: elsewhere for a better situation fit in Buffalo? 1219 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 12: Uh No, I wouldn't say. No, it wasn't anything significantly different. 1220 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 12: It was really just I think, so I'll have a 1221 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 12: shorter deal, I think, and it'll give me an opportunity 1222 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 12: to still be younger, still be able to possibly sign 1223 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 12: another contract, hopefully before the age of thirty, if I able, 1224 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 12: if I'm able to you know, play the way I 1225 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 12: want to play and have the success that I think 1226 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 12: I'm able to have. 1227 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,160 Speaker 7: Thanks so much, AJ, congrats again. 1228 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 13: Yep, thank you. 1229 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 17: Hey j Bookie Hopkins le sports to in eighty grants, 1230 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 17: my guy. 1231 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,880 Speaker 13: Appreciate your brother. How you doing, I'm good man. 1232 01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 18: You know, we've been waiting for this to happen about 1233 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 18: a year ago, you know, but you know, you you 1234 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,000 Speaker 18: stay patient with it, and you know, you went through 1235 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 18: the process obviously, I mean, you know how close were 1236 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:49,120 Speaker 18: you though, how how how tempting was it to go elsewhere? 1237 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 17: You know, did did it? 1238 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 13: Did it? 1239 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 17: Was there a team out there. 1240 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,880 Speaker 18: That made it you know a little bit of tempting 1241 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 18: for you to to think about leaving, uh huh. 1242 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 12: You know, honestly, I would say it definitely was a 1243 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 12: little tempting, and mostly because I just maybe just kind 1244 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,600 Speaker 12: of just switch up, you know, and my mentality. You know, 1245 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 12: the grass isn't always greener on the other side. I 1246 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 12: know what we have that's so good here in Buffalo, 1247 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 12: and I know that what we have is so successful, 1248 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,040 Speaker 12: and we have a really good recipe for success here, 1249 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,480 Speaker 12: and we have a lot of good people that can 1250 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 12: back me here and that really believe in me. And 1251 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,200 Speaker 12: so it was kind of a really easy decision to 1252 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 12: at the end of the day, it was easy to 1253 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 12: make this decision to want to come back here be 1254 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 12: something that I've been a part of and something that 1255 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 12: I think we can continue to leave a legacy. 1256 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 18: Or absolutely, I mean, you know, you already had these conversations, 1257 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 18: we had that back in training camp that I pretty 1258 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,360 Speaker 18: much knew that. You know that it was bill as 1259 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 18: a bus for you. You were just waiting to hear 1260 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 18: you know, you know, from them basically when it came 1261 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 18: down to it. It didn't happen earlier, But now you 1262 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 18: got it now. Just we're that confidence now as far 1263 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 18: as knowing that you're going to be here for two 1264 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 18: years and understand and what you put your body through 1265 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 18: the past the first four years, right, So where's that 1266 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 18: confidence at with your body? 1267 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 6: And overall? 1268 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, I think my confidence at all time high. 1269 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,320 Speaker 12: You know, I'm feeling good. I'm still young. I feel 1270 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,040 Speaker 12: I'm feeling fresh. I'm back in the gym right now 1271 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 12: down here in Sunshine, Florida, So I think my confidence 1272 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 12: is beaming right now. I'm enjoying the weight room, enjoying 1273 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,680 Speaker 12: the training, and now that all this is kind of 1274 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 12: backing behind me a little bit, you can kind of 1275 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 12: rest a little bit and just kind of your nerves 1276 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 12: can can take a little ease off and just kind 1277 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,640 Speaker 12: of focus on the work and get ready to get back. 1278 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 17: Now you're dealing with a new defensive line coach and 1279 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 17: Mark West. Has he reached out to you or. 1280 01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 18: Is the plan still the same plan that Washington and 1281 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 18: starred or a little bit different going forward with him? 1282 01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 6: Uh? 1283 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 12: Yeah, as far as game plan, I'm not one hundred 1284 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 12: percent sure if anything really will be changing. 1285 01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 13: I've worked with coach West the past years, have a 1286 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 13: lot of. 1287 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 12: Love for him, a lot of trust in him on 1288 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 12: a lot of faith in what he does because you know, 1289 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 12: you get to see him work every day, see his 1290 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 12: passion for for what he does, and it gives you 1291 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,840 Speaker 12: confidence in him as a coach, you know, to to 1292 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 12: give us the information we need to have to succeed, 1293 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 12: you know, So watching him work these past couple of 1294 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 12: years has been fun. And then now he's going to 1295 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 12: be heading the room. Super happy for him and we're 1296 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 12: blessed to have him. 1297 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 18: Yeah, man, I thought we was gonna lose you to 1298 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,439 Speaker 18: the windy city there, but glad that you stay at home. 1299 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 17: I God, congrats, I'll see you soon, sir. I appreciate you. 1300 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 7: Man. 1301 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,640 Speaker 19: Yes, good, good, good afternoon a j. George rad They 1302 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 19: challenge your community of news. How you doing this afternoon? 1303 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,280 Speaker 13: Good? How are you great? Great? 1304 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 7: Great? 1305 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:49,080 Speaker 6: Look good? 1306 01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 13: You're doing great there? 1307 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 19: Look like in Florida, more money and everything in the 1308 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:53,440 Speaker 19: whole nine yards. 1309 01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 13: How would you sum. 1310 01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 7: Up the four years of of what the Bills seemed like? 1311 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:58,960 Speaker 19: You did everything the Bills asked you to do, You 1312 01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,840 Speaker 19: went up and down and and do you feel this 1313 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,800 Speaker 19: past season you were playing at the ideal weight for 1314 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:05,840 Speaker 19: your body. 1315 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,000 Speaker 13: This past season? 1316 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,120 Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, I think this year, this past year, 1317 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,480 Speaker 12: I had the most consistency with my body weight, something 1318 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,600 Speaker 12: that took me some time to kind of get under control. 1319 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 12: And now that I've had some experience under my belt, 1320 01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 12: it was definitely the most consistent season for that and 1321 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 12: the easiest to handle. So it's definitely still a challenge 1322 01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,680 Speaker 12: and things that I'm still working through. But they're just 1323 01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 12: constant discipline with with certain things and it kind of 1324 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 12: helps me keep it. 1325 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:37,440 Speaker 19: On, yes, cause you strike me more as alignment, but 1326 01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 19: you still you're doing great as in that linebacker position. 1327 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:41,600 Speaker 5: Uh. 1328 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 13: But what was it? I wasn't working with. 1329 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,840 Speaker 19: Leonond Floyd and some of those veterans guys, especially Lennon 1330 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,560 Speaker 19: Floyd last year because he brought your name up a 1331 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 19: lot during the season as a guy that that he 1332 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 19: worked in a technique on your technique in the whole 1333 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 19: nine yards, and that he said you got a very 1334 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 19: promising future. 1335 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 12: Yeah, working with someone like Flow was, you know, kind 1336 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,439 Speaker 12: of a blessing in disguise. When we signed him last year. 1337 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 12: We were excited to have him, and when he came in, 1338 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 12: he made an immediate impact, you know, when it was 1339 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,600 Speaker 12: on the field, off the field, when it came to 1340 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,440 Speaker 12: just him giving us advice about his rush and you 1341 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 12: could tell when Flow started to open up to us 1342 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:22,080 Speaker 12: as a as a group, as friends. Uh, he started 1343 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,600 Speaker 12: just really getting into details. You can tell his passion 1344 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,480 Speaker 12: he had for rushing the past or playing the game 1345 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 12: of football. 1346 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,600 Speaker 13: So he's a lot of fun to be around. As 1347 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:31,080 Speaker 13: a person. 1348 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,880 Speaker 12: He's a great football player, great person, but he definitely 1349 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,200 Speaker 12: helps elevate your game because he's just so great at 1350 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,880 Speaker 12: so many things and he pushes you to do better. 1351 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 13: Absolutely. 1352 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 19: And last, but that last question for you, what are 1353 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 19: your your goos? He mentioned you in the weight room 1354 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,320 Speaker 19: and everything now in the whole nine yards. How does 1355 01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 19: that go to get yourself ready for the next season, 1356 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 19: for the upcoming season? 1357 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,520 Speaker 13: Yeah, no, we we hit the weight room pretty hard 1358 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 13: down here in Florida. 1359 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 2: Uh. 1360 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 12: My routine is usually I get I usually get in 1361 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 12: there pretty heavy during OTAs, try to get some of 1362 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 12: this weight back on, get up to OTAs, and then 1363 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 12: manage that weight, try to get back used to being heavier, 1364 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,280 Speaker 12: and then just kind of carry it through the season. 1365 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:14,400 Speaker 12: So that's what part of the part I'm in right 1366 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 12: now is kind of that bulking phase, get that weight 1367 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:17,280 Speaker 12: back on. 1368 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 19: All right, Greg, Well, thank you very much for your 1369 01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 19: time and look forward to seeing you at OTAs and 1370 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 19: upcoming training camp as well. 1371 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:26,240 Speaker 13: Yes, sir, thank you. 1372 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,200 Speaker 11: Aj one more for me. I know you're close with 1373 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 11: Greg Russo, so why are you looking forward to Why 1374 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,000 Speaker 11: are you looking forward to being with him for at 1375 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:36,959 Speaker 11: least some more time. 1376 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,200 Speaker 12: Oh my man, Greg. You know, me and Greg were 1377 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,360 Speaker 12: like in so many ways. We love a lot of 1378 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 12: the same things. And having him and Boogie come in 1379 01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 12: during my second year, you know, it's kind of it's 1380 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,760 Speaker 12: nice to have some guys my age around. Not hating 1381 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,720 Speaker 12: on Jerry and Mario and those guys that all love 1382 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,720 Speaker 12: those guys, but having those guys joined the group was 1383 01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,800 Speaker 12: really nice. And then being with Greg's past three years 1384 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 12: now going on four, me and him have built a 1385 01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 12: really good friendship. 1386 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 13: Really good bond, and I love being on the field 1387 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:08,040 Speaker 13: with him. 1388 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,480 Speaker 12: He's an amazing football player and I'm looking forward to 1389 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,600 Speaker 12: what else we can do and what else we can accomplish. 1390 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:13,680 Speaker 7: Great. 1391 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 11: Thanks AJ, Thank you. 1392 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:18,840 Speaker 5: That's all the questions for today. 1393 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 11: Thanks AJ, and congratulations. 1394 01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 2: Yep, thank you all right, that's aj Epanessa. He of 1395 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,719 Speaker 2: the new two year deal to stay and remain a Buffalo, 1396 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,600 Speaker 2: Bill said it was an easy decision for him with 1397 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,920 Speaker 2: all the success in the way they run the operation 1398 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,080 Speaker 2: here on a daily basis, the support he feels he 1399 01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,640 Speaker 2: has around him when he is a player in this uniform, 1400 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:39,639 Speaker 2: so he said it was an easy decision for him. 1401 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:44,240 Speaker 2: Also said that the two year shorter contract was attracted 1402 01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,360 Speaker 2: to him as well as a twenty six year old. 1403 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,000 Speaker 2: Two years he's back in free agency again before age 1404 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:55,160 Speaker 2: thirty and has a chance for another contract, so that 1405 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:58,800 Speaker 2: obviously an attractive part of the deal as well. 1406 01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:00,400 Speaker 3: Let's get back to the fun though. 1407 01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 2: At eight oh three h five fifty one eighty eight 1408 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty the number to get on 1409 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,719 Speaker 2: board as we are asking you to be Bill's GM 1410 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 2: for the day. 1411 01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,120 Speaker 3: What would be your next move? 1412 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:11,760 Speaker 2: You've seen some of the things that the Bills have 1413 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:16,400 Speaker 2: done already in free agency in terms of cap clearing maneuvers. 1414 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:17,800 Speaker 3: What would you do next? 1415 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:19,760 Speaker 2: Uh, let's go to the phones where we do have 1416 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,160 Speaker 2: open lines and to Tom on the west side, who's 1417 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:23,920 Speaker 2: been waiting patiently. What's up Tom? 1418 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,719 Speaker 6: Hey, guys, hope you're having a great day. 1419 01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,240 Speaker 3: We're trying go ahead anyway. 1420 01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 6: If I was GM for the day, I'd be looking 1421 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,360 Speaker 6: to pick one thirty four and one forty four and 1422 01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:39,320 Speaker 6: seeing if I could get back in the third round. Okay, 1423 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,840 Speaker 6: we got robbed. We got robbed on that compick, So 1424 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,479 Speaker 6: how far up can we move in the third round? 1425 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,840 Speaker 6: Who would be our trade partner and would be a 1426 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,439 Speaker 6: value picked to give up those two that are only 1427 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:57,400 Speaker 6: twenty picks no Tom picks apart. Yeah, yeah, so it 1428 01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,240 Speaker 6: would it be a value moved to do that. 1429 01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well that's the thing, Tom. 1430 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,960 Speaker 2: I think what you might be doing with your thinking 1431 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,240 Speaker 2: is a little bit of putting the cart before the horse. 1432 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,080 Speaker 2: It's very hard to project what's still going to be 1433 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:17,200 Speaker 2: sitting on the board in round three now, or even 1434 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,120 Speaker 2: on day one of the draft. So it's hard to 1435 01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 2: assess what the value of a third round pick would 1436 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:28,760 Speaker 2: be until you see what's still on your board as 1437 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,880 Speaker 2: round two is winding down. And I think if you're 1438 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,880 Speaker 2: a GM in this league, you let the information provided 1439 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 2: by round one and round two and what comes off 1440 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 2: the board help you determine is it worth moving up 1441 01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:48,000 Speaker 2: into the third round to select somebody that you covet 1442 01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:48,639 Speaker 2: who is. 1443 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:49,360 Speaker 3: Still out there. 1444 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,040 Speaker 2: That, to me, is the crux of the decisions that 1445 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 2: get made on draft weekend. They rarely happen now to 1446 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,840 Speaker 2: improve your value in the draft, unless you are acquiring 1447 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,759 Speaker 2: a player and you're shipping a draft pick to somebody 1448 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,479 Speaker 2: else who's trying to shed salary on their cap or 1449 01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,360 Speaker 2: something of that nature. If you're doing it strictly to 1450 01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,880 Speaker 2: improve the value of your choices in the draft. You're 1451 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 2: going to wait to see what's in the draft and 1452 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 2: on the board before you make that kind of a move. 1453 01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:23,800 Speaker 4: Right, And that's yeah exactly, you're not going to do 1454 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:29,439 Speaker 4: it now. So but if you're if you're asked. 1455 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,080 Speaker 2: Wait, we go to the Steve Tasker trade chart. 1456 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:32,760 Speaker 4: Here, all right, here we go. 1457 01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,519 Speaker 2: If the Bills have one thirty four and one four, right, 1458 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 2: so one. 1459 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,760 Speaker 4: Thirty four vue on this, charllet's issues this one one 1460 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:46,120 Speaker 4: thirty four's thirty nine points. One forty four is thirty 1461 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 4: four points, so that's seventy three three That will move 1462 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:51,080 Speaker 4: you up? 1463 01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:53,800 Speaker 3: Does that even get you out of the round? 1464 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,040 Speaker 4: That'll move you up between one ten and one eleven. 1465 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,160 Speaker 3: Doesn't get you into the third round, It doesn't get 1466 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:02,559 Speaker 3: you up in it. 1467 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:03,479 Speaker 4: That's a fourth rounder. 1468 01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,160 Speaker 2: The only they get higher in round for the four picks. 1469 01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,800 Speaker 4: The picks get exponentially less valuable the further down you go, 1470 01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,920 Speaker 4: and so you're just not going to be able to 1471 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:13,479 Speaker 4: move up. 1472 01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:15,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that far. 1473 01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:21,000 Speaker 4: That was the Jimmy Johnson value chart, which a lot 1474 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:21,720 Speaker 4: of teams use. 1475 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's become a little outdated. There are some some 1476 01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,360 Speaker 2: newer ones that exist these days. 1477 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:35,040 Speaker 4: This one one will get you, okay, that's Steves. 1478 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:39,840 Speaker 2: Steve's doing live math, bear with us, and that will 1479 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,519 Speaker 2: get you up to We need the Jeopardy music for 1480 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 2: final JEF. 1481 01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:44,960 Speaker 4: I won't get it, won't get you there, gets you 1482 01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,200 Speaker 4: up to. It'll only move you up into Yeah, it'll 1483 01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:49,720 Speaker 4: only move you up the same amount up to one 1484 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,120 Speaker 4: oh eight, one oh nine, So you're gonna go. It's 1485 01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,599 Speaker 4: relatively the same top of the fourth round from two yeah, 1486 01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,439 Speaker 4: two picks in the fourth in the fourth, No, two 1487 01:12:58,439 --> 01:12:59,240 Speaker 4: picks in the fifth. 1488 01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,240 Speaker 2: I was looking, Oh, he was talking about the two 1489 01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,080 Speaker 2: fours and how high they could get you to the third. 1490 01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,960 Speaker 4: What numbers are the two fours? Ninety nine? 1491 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,320 Speaker 3: And no they don't. I don't think they have ninety nine. 1492 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:10,760 Speaker 3: It's one thirty four and one. 1493 01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, but those are in round five. That's that's what 1494 01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:15,439 Speaker 4: this says. 1495 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,200 Speaker 2: I thought the compensatory was picked one thirty four, that 1496 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:19,200 Speaker 2: they just. 1497 01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,120 Speaker 4: Just doesn't have compensatory. 1498 01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:24,200 Speaker 2: No, well there's there's the well just know it's pick 1499 01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 2: one thirty four. 1500 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:30,679 Speaker 4: Mm hmm one, all right, I'll keep the lunking. 1501 01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:32,400 Speaker 3: I think I think that's what they are. We can 1502 01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:32,960 Speaker 3: double check. 1503 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's gonna I guess the end the end 1504 01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:37,920 Speaker 2: result is gonna be tough to move up. 1505 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:39,479 Speaker 4: This is the one. Yeah, this is the one I 1506 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,160 Speaker 4: usually use the one, this one. 1507 01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,960 Speaker 2: You keep crunching numbers. I'll go to Tom and cheek 1508 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,040 Speaker 2: to Waga in the meantime. What's up Tom? 1509 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,840 Speaker 20: Hey, how you guys doing this? You know, love your show. 1510 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,840 Speaker 20: But what I wanted to ask about was, what are 1511 01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,200 Speaker 20: you guys thoughts on maybe the bills looking at at 1512 01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:00,320 Speaker 20: Willie Gay from Kansas City? Uh, and my rit know 1513 01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,759 Speaker 20: I thought was maybe to take a peek at Joe Mixon, 1514 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,160 Speaker 20: but I hear that he's going to be signing with Houston. 1515 01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,160 Speaker 20: So and what do you guys think about maybe, you know, 1516 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,640 Speaker 20: look about looking to bring in boogie bashing back and 1517 01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,520 Speaker 20: instead of trying to play him in, play him inside. 1518 01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,040 Speaker 20: I'll hang up and let you guys speak on that. 1519 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Tom, First and foremost Willie Gay athletic player, 1520 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,320 Speaker 2: and who knows if he's going to be back with 1521 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:33,080 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. He could be looking for work elsewhere. Good 1522 01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:37,360 Speaker 2: size player, former second round pick and has been used 1523 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,519 Speaker 2: as a spy on quarterbacks. To give you an idea 1524 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:46,240 Speaker 2: on his athleticism. They just re signed Drew Trankwell in 1525 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,360 Speaker 2: Kansas City, a fellow linebacker who joined them from the 1526 01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,240 Speaker 2: Chargers last year, to a three year, nineteen million dollars deal. 1527 01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,960 Speaker 2: It's anticipated that he's going to start alongside Nick Bolton, 1528 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,200 Speaker 2: their other inside linebacker. So if Willie Gay is looking 1529 01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,559 Speaker 2: for a starting opera unity, he might be looking elsewhere. 1530 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,439 Speaker 2: I just don't know if the Bills can guarantee that 1531 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 2: for him here, and then the next question obviously becomes 1532 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,280 Speaker 2: what kind of salary he's going to command. I'm of 1533 01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:14,000 Speaker 2: the belief that the Bills are going to try to 1534 01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:18,080 Speaker 2: scoop up a linebacker depth in the draft. They have Baile, 1535 01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:22,439 Speaker 2: Inspector Dorian Williams, and then Milano and Bernard as their 1536 01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:26,960 Speaker 2: starters and they don't add anybody else, which means they're 1537 01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,960 Speaker 2: gonna need help on special teams. So you're gonna usually 1538 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,160 Speaker 2: that means a younger player too, and know when they're 1539 01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,879 Speaker 2: tight on the cap, I just don't see them spending 1540 01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:40,720 Speaker 2: appreciable free agent money on a linebacker right now. They're 1541 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,840 Speaker 2: still trying to fill defensive line holes. As for running back, 1542 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,679 Speaker 2: I think it's the same situation. They're not swinging big 1543 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,000 Speaker 2: on a running back. I know a lot of other 1544 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,360 Speaker 2: teams are. The Bills are not because they have their 1545 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,200 Speaker 2: feature back, it's James Cook. They need a number two 1546 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,720 Speaker 2: and a number three, and to me, I think in 1547 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,360 Speaker 2: an ideal world, they get Ty Johnson back for bargain 1548 01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:06,519 Speaker 2: money and maybe they draft a third. What we have 1549 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,519 Speaker 2: to wrap our head around is that the Bills are 1550 01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,880 Speaker 2: going to be making a big youth movement with their 1551 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,799 Speaker 2: roster this offseason because of the cap situation and because 1552 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,920 Speaker 2: their roster got old and it's got to get younger. 1553 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,400 Speaker 2: So let's not forget. I mean, it's a seventeen game 1554 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,519 Speaker 2: season now, and the Bills have been a beat up 1555 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,519 Speaker 2: bunch by the time they get to the postseason, and 1556 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,960 Speaker 2: it's it's impacted their performance in the postseason. 1557 01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, no question about it. They're gonna have to They 1558 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,559 Speaker 4: will get some depth. But some of the guys you're 1559 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,400 Speaker 4: talking about, and there will be some guys available, and 1560 01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,160 Speaker 4: Willie Game maybe one. We don't know he may be, 1561 01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,320 Speaker 4: but he's a young guy. But you can bet you 1562 01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,440 Speaker 4: can just read the mind of Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott. 1563 01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:56,519 Speaker 4: They're banking on Milano coming back strong. And Bernard coming 1564 01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,560 Speaker 4: back and playing picking up where he left off, and 1565 01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,360 Speaker 4: they're gonna be set at linebacker for the next handful 1566 01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:04,840 Speaker 4: of years. Uh. That doesn't mean those are the only 1567 01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,439 Speaker 4: two guys are gonna play, or that they don't need 1568 01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:10,160 Speaker 4: depth at those positions, but that's I mean, that's what 1569 01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:10,840 Speaker 4: they're looking at. 1570 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 6: Uh. 1571 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,640 Speaker 4: They've certainly got a handle on how what the expectation 1572 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,719 Speaker 4: should be for Milano coming back, and that this fuels 1573 01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,320 Speaker 4: that we don't know what those are now. Maybe they're 1574 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,519 Speaker 4: getting told that Milano is an iffy proposition off of 1575 01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,240 Speaker 4: this type of injury. It's it's a weird it was 1576 01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:30,400 Speaker 4: a weird injury. But I would bet they have a 1577 01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:35,439 Speaker 4: handle on how what their expectation should be. So but 1578 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,880 Speaker 4: right now, given the experience we have with injuries and all, 1579 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,720 Speaker 4: you think this man Milana's coming back, he's going to 1580 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:45,240 Speaker 4: play extremely well. So I don't know that they would 1581 01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,760 Speaker 4: put that doesn't mean Willie Gay has to be their 1582 01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,920 Speaker 4: top priority, but if he coomes available, now, no question, 1583 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:54,240 Speaker 4: good players make you better. But that's kind of where 1584 01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:56,240 Speaker 4: I'm at. I don't think any they expect anybody to 1585 01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:59,160 Speaker 4: come in and play for Matt Milano or Bernard. 1586 01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:01,920 Speaker 2: Uh, we've got to take a break here. We'll take 1587 01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:03,880 Speaker 2: more of your phone calls on the other side, Jeff 1588 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,080 Speaker 2: and Buffalo will lead us off. Also, the biggest deal 1589 01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,559 Speaker 2: of the day, Darnell Mooney's three year, thirty nine million 1590 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:13,559 Speaker 2: dollar contract has been eclipsed by the contract agreement between 1591 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:17,439 Speaker 2: free agent linebacker Patrick Queen of the Ravens. He goes 1592 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,479 Speaker 2: to the rival Steelers on a three year, forty one 1593 01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,960 Speaker 2: million dollar deal. Ooh, baby, gotta take a break here, 1594 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,800 Speaker 2: but we're back with your phone calls. Next here on 1595 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,519 Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, presented by co Lout of Health, It's 1596 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:43,320 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, back here on One Bill's 1597 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,360 Speaker 2: Live on day two of the free agent negotiating period, 1598 01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:49,960 Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and want to get 1599 01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,120 Speaker 2: back to the phones where we've been asking you today. 1600 01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,920 Speaker 2: Your Bill's GM for today? What is your next move 1601 01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,400 Speaker 2: for Buffalo after some of the stuff that you've seen 1602 01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,320 Speaker 2: them do already? Eight h three oh five fifty to 1603 01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,360 Speaker 2: jump on board. We go to Jeff in Buffalo next. 1604 01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:04,000 Speaker 3: What's up? Jeff? 1605 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:09,360 Speaker 5: Hey guys, Hey, uh, real quick, a little food for thought. 1606 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,080 Speaker 5: When's the last time that Bill's had a useful third 1607 01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:16,240 Speaker 5: round pick anyway. But anyway, they just don't draft on. 1608 01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:17,960 Speaker 2: The third pretty good. 1609 01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:21,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I'll give you that, all right, got me there. 1610 01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,760 Speaker 5: But anyway, I'm want to point or just ask your 1611 01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,760 Speaker 5: opinion or make a point that as far as that 1612 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:30,160 Speaker 5: Pinesca goes, you know, I always thought, you know, coming out, yeah, 1613 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:31,240 Speaker 5: he was a little bit of a you know, a 1614 01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,840 Speaker 5: lightweight or whatever. But you know, if you looked at 1615 01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,920 Speaker 5: a measurables just as you know, and he was in 1616 01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,640 Speaker 5: a draft today, you say, wow, that guy and you 1617 01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,080 Speaker 5: just got all the measurables and stuff like that, and 1618 01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:46,479 Speaker 5: just being behind like uh, Floyd and Miller. I just 1619 01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,840 Speaker 5: hope that he gets some some more some some some 1620 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,320 Speaker 5: more of them snaps, you know, maybe some of Floyd 1621 01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,160 Speaker 5: snaps or something to be able to prove because I 1622 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,040 Speaker 5: really do believe, you know, watching him flash like that, 1623 01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,320 Speaker 5: I just think a little bit more time you'd see 1624 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,360 Speaker 5: a little bit more consistency out of him. And as 1625 01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:08,200 Speaker 5: far as the Johnson thing goes, Terren Johnson, like we're 1626 01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 5: with the the value of safeties nowadays or last couple 1627 01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,400 Speaker 5: of seasons, where do you where do you rent? He's 1628 01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,240 Speaker 5: not a safety? He's not a corner. He is a corner. 1629 01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:20,759 Speaker 5: I mean, where do you come up as a highbred 1630 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:25,320 Speaker 5: type of number. It's just, you know, that's just one thing. 1631 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,719 Speaker 5: And as far as being a GM for a day, 1632 01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,360 Speaker 5: I gotta get me. I got to get me a safety. 1633 01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:34,080 Speaker 5: And that's sort of those fourth and fifth round picks. 1634 01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,080 Speaker 5: You know, you get a defensive tip, but you get 1635 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,880 Speaker 5: a safety. Maybe you get somebody that's serviceable that you 1636 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,960 Speaker 5: can plug in behind Oliver and Jones. So I mean, 1637 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,280 Speaker 5: you know, those those are the things. I wouldn't give 1638 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,920 Speaker 5: up anything for a third. I mean, I'd keep my 1639 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:51,320 Speaker 5: picks and just let it roll. I mean unless somebody 1640 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,559 Speaker 5: that's on the board that you targeted that you highly like, 1641 01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:56,880 Speaker 5: you could even throw in next year's pick. I mean, 1642 01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,120 Speaker 5: I'll give you a third next year and this and 1643 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:00,920 Speaker 5: that and the other thing and make it happen if 1644 01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:01,280 Speaker 5: you want. 1645 01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:05,200 Speaker 9: So, okay, guys, Yeah, thanks, Jeff, I appreciate all that. 1646 01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:06,439 Speaker 3: Why didn't you talk about Epine. 1647 01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,040 Speaker 2: I think more opportunity could lead to more production for 1648 01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:09,439 Speaker 2: him at. 1649 01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:15,640 Speaker 4: Perhaps perhaps, Yeah, I success rate is a is a 1650 01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,880 Speaker 4: big stat and yeah, and they could all improve on that. 1651 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,040 Speaker 4: Third rounders. I get what he's saying. I mean, let's 1652 01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:25,080 Speaker 4: let's take Brandon Bean's third rounders, and I went back 1653 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:26,960 Speaker 4: and look, Harrison Phillips was one of them. He's still 1654 01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:33,120 Speaker 4: in the National Football League, Dawson Knox, Devin Singletary, Zack. 1655 01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,160 Speaker 3: Moss all still in the league. 1656 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:39,240 Speaker 4: Spencer Brown, Terrell Bernard. 1657 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,120 Speaker 3: It's pretty good running third. 1658 01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:45,519 Speaker 4: Dorian Williams not bad, not bad. That's that's tough on 1659 01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,599 Speaker 4: the Brandon Bean can't pick anybody that's. 1660 01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,040 Speaker 3: Two days in a row. We've gotten that now. 1661 01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,479 Speaker 2: I don't know where the where the merit is in 1662 01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,880 Speaker 2: that argument. I really don't. As far as tarn goes, 1663 01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,519 Speaker 2: He's a nickel corner, and I would imagine that if 1664 01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,760 Speaker 2: the Bills wanted to talk to his representation about a 1665 01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:07,640 Speaker 2: contract extension, that they would basically compare him with the 1666 01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,160 Speaker 2: other nickel corners in the league and try to come 1667 01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,080 Speaker 2: to a salary that way. I would presume that's what 1668 01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:13,639 Speaker 2: they did the last time when he signed a three 1669 01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,880 Speaker 2: year extension worth twenty four million dollars eight million dollars 1670 01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,799 Speaker 2: a season. I mean, even now in terms of average 1671 01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:24,240 Speaker 2: annual salary, if he wants, he's still up there in 1672 01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:24,880 Speaker 2: the top ten. 1673 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,320 Speaker 4: So let me tell you what it says about that 1674 01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,719 Speaker 4: guy's going to see every cent of that contract. That's rare. 1675 01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:34,519 Speaker 4: It's rare, not only second contract. That joker's going to 1676 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:35,600 Speaker 4: probably get a third. 1677 01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,639 Speaker 2: Right, And I would say they should do it now 1678 01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:40,519 Speaker 2: to alleviate themselves and give themselves some more cap room 1679 01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,120 Speaker 2: and get her two ways you can do that. He's 1680 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,680 Speaker 2: making eight per now, maybe you got to go up 1681 01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,040 Speaker 2: to nine, but you can structure it in a way 1682 01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,439 Speaker 2: to give yourself some cap relief now and maybe even 1683 01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,960 Speaker 2: next year if you do a four year deal for example, 1684 01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,160 Speaker 2: and he's age thirty two on the way out at 1685 01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,920 Speaker 2: the end of that deal. So there are ways that 1686 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,320 Speaker 2: extensions can help create cap space for you, and I 1687 01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:02,040 Speaker 2: think they should do that. 1688 01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:03,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do too, And I would give him a 1689 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,719 Speaker 4: bump and give him the next two years, just extending 1690 01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:10,960 Speaker 4: one year because then he'll be thirty. Landscape changes, you 1691 01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:11,960 Speaker 4: can redo it then. 1692 01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:13,599 Speaker 3: Right that. 1693 01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,679 Speaker 2: It just helps you bottom line, It helps you back 1694 01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,000 Speaker 2: to the phones and to Tim down in Charlotte. 1695 01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:20,000 Speaker 3: What do you got for Tim? 1696 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,439 Speaker 21: Yeah, Hey, guys, if I'm playing Brandon being GM for 1697 01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,920 Speaker 21: the day or for the bills rather, I've got three 1698 01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:29,439 Speaker 21: moves that I kind of want to make before free 1699 01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,280 Speaker 21: agency gets wrapped up. The first one being is I 1700 01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,720 Speaker 21: do want to get I want to take a look 1701 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,320 Speaker 21: at your tart from the Titans, young ascending player. Throw 1702 01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:40,439 Speaker 21: him in a rotation. I don't know what he would command, 1703 01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:44,200 Speaker 21: but he's, you know, twenty seven years old. Throw him 1704 01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:45,360 Speaker 21: into our rotation. 1705 01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:46,040 Speaker 10: And let him eat. 1706 01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,280 Speaker 21: Put him right next to Ed, and you know when 1707 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:50,559 Speaker 21: day Kwan needs a rest. I like the player a lot. 1708 01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,240 Speaker 21: Got to bolster the safety room. You can take a 1709 01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:58,160 Speaker 21: look at Jeremy Chin or Cameron Curl. Cameron Curls a 1710 01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,320 Speaker 21: really young guy. I know Jeremy Chin a lot of 1711 01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,679 Speaker 21: promise coming out, but he's been banged up a little 1712 01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,160 Speaker 21: bit from the Panthers. Again, this all depends on what 1713 01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:09,479 Speaker 21: they would actually command on a salary. But two young guys, 1714 01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,360 Speaker 21: you want to do a youth moment. But these guys 1715 01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,160 Speaker 21: have chops in the league and they're willing tacklers. 1716 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:13,840 Speaker 13: I like them both. 1717 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,439 Speaker 21: And then last year we got to take a look 1718 01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,840 Speaker 21: at a receiver. I'm all on the wide receiver train 1719 01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,599 Speaker 21: at twenty eight, but I definitely think we need one 1720 01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:24,479 Speaker 21: before free agency ends. A guy like kJ Osborne or 1721 01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,400 Speaker 21: something like that a little bit later and so that 1722 01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:28,679 Speaker 21: you know the second or third tier of free agency. 1723 01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,280 Speaker 21: I don't think you would cost that much. Maybe a 1724 01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:33,559 Speaker 21: one year deal, say hey, come catch passes from Josh 1725 01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,599 Speaker 21: Allen and you know, hit it again next year. But 1726 01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:37,760 Speaker 21: I love to hear what you guys think on those. 1727 01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,120 Speaker 21: But those are the three I would attack. 1728 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I like your plan in terms of 1729 01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:45,360 Speaker 2: attacking the positions. I think Osbourne does have a chance 1730 01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,200 Speaker 2: to be their second third wave of free agency because 1731 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,400 Speaker 2: what Brandon Bean has to do right now is hold 1732 01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,880 Speaker 2: his water. And I think you can do that at 1733 01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,960 Speaker 2: the safety position because I crunched the numbers. Last year, 1734 01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,120 Speaker 2: there were eighteen starting safeties in free agency, and it 1735 01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,600 Speaker 2: depressed the mark, and outside of a couple of exceptions, 1736 01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:04,599 Speaker 2: most of them didn't get the money they thought they 1737 01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:08,800 Speaker 2: were worth. This offseason after some of these player releases 1738 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:14,400 Speaker 2: last week, there were twenty eight starting safeties in free agency. 1739 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:15,639 Speaker 3: Twenty eight. 1740 01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,960 Speaker 2: Supply is far outweighing demand, and so I think if 1741 01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:22,920 Speaker 2: Brandon Bean just holds his water and waits for a 1742 01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,000 Speaker 2: week to go by, there's still going to be a 1743 01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,840 Speaker 2: lot of good players to choose from. And I think 1744 01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:29,799 Speaker 2: we have to keep this in mind. I think Taylor 1745 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,680 Speaker 2: Rap for all intents and purposes, is going to be 1746 01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,840 Speaker 2: this team's strong safety, playing a little closer to the 1747 01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,400 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, you know, more of that box role 1748 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,320 Speaker 2: that Jordan Poyer played. So they need a center fielder, 1749 01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,080 Speaker 2: a guy that can cover the deep half. Maybe less 1750 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,640 Speaker 2: so nowadays with all the split safety that's played, but 1751 01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,040 Speaker 2: they need a better athlete back there. Chin is that 1752 01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,320 Speaker 2: Curl plays more closer to the line of scrimmage, So 1753 01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,000 Speaker 2: it'd be interesting to see what they decide is a 1754 01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:56,479 Speaker 2: fit there. 1755 01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,000 Speaker 4: If they go after the deeper, and I'll say this too, 1756 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,240 Speaker 4: the deeper you go get into free agency and without 1757 01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,000 Speaker 4: the flurry of signings after a week or two or 1758 01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,880 Speaker 4: even a month, and your guy, the guy that you like, 1759 01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:10,200 Speaker 4: is still out there to make no mistake, Brandon Bean 1760 01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,320 Speaker 4: knows it. And as a player, as a former player, 1761 01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,519 Speaker 4: you get you. And we've talked about this before. You 1762 01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:19,120 Speaker 4: panic because free agencies all the glamorous and stuff you 1763 01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:21,479 Speaker 4: picture flying around in private jets. Yeah, for most of 1764 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,080 Speaker 4: these guys, they're sitting there in a dark room looking 1765 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,320 Speaker 4: at the phone waiting for it to ring. They're out 1766 01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,760 Speaker 4: of work. So that emotion starts to go up and 1767 01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:32,519 Speaker 4: up and up and up. And that's why when you 1768 01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:34,840 Speaker 4: get a guy like a Leonard Floyd who's still sitting 1769 01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,200 Speaker 4: out there, and certainly the Bills weren't the only team 1770 01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,439 Speaker 4: interested in him, but he's sitting there waiting, and sooner 1771 01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:43,120 Speaker 4: or later, if he wants to play, he's got a sign. 1772 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,240 Speaker 4: And there are other guys out there who will be 1773 01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:51,879 Speaker 4: calling teams and saying, hey, what about it. The longer 1774 01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:55,000 Speaker 4: a GM can wait, and the smart ones are willing to, 1775 01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:58,559 Speaker 4: the better deals you get, because guy, if you want to, 1776 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:06,519 Speaker 4: guys want to. That emotion is real. But man, oh man, 1777 01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:09,720 Speaker 4: it is a tough standoff to be a part of EAT, 1778 01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,600 Speaker 4: both as a GM and a coaching staff and an organization, 1779 01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,080 Speaker 4: as well as a player sitting out there waiting on 1780 01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:15,840 Speaker 4: the phone to ring. 1781 01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:17,559 Speaker 2: And I would say you could do a lot worse 1782 01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:21,040 Speaker 2: than a teyor Tart. I would call him an ascending player. 1783 01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,519 Speaker 2: You just hope that he sits out there long enough 1784 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,800 Speaker 2: where you can get an affordable deal done with him, 1785 01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:30,000 Speaker 2: not an astronomical one. Again, the cap space is the 1786 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,120 Speaker 2: big deterrent here and the inhibitor for Brandon Bean in 1787 01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,439 Speaker 2: the front office right now, got to take a break 1788 01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:37,479 Speaker 2: back to close things up next here on One Bill's Live. 1789 01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:38,280 Speaker 3: Stay tuned. 1790 01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:56,760 Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live for one 1791 01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,960 Speaker 2: final segment, going to try to squeeze in a phone 1792 01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,280 Speaker 2: call here before we gotta sign off for the day, 1793 01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,120 Speaker 2: and we go to Paul in a car. 1794 01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:04,000 Speaker 3: What do you got for us? Paul? 1795 01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,200 Speaker 22: Hey, guys, about a week and a half ago, I 1796 01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:12,600 Speaker 22: guess large guy from the Patriots got released, and I 1797 01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:16,960 Speaker 22: know the way McDermott rotates his defensive lineman. If he'd 1798 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:18,800 Speaker 22: be an option, you know, to go in there. He's 1799 01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:21,400 Speaker 22: thirty three years old, but you know he's been there 1800 01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:23,559 Speaker 22: with the Super Bowl with the Patriots. You know, he's 1801 01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:27,360 Speaker 22: a nice locker room veteran presidence. Seeing at Mitch Morrison, 1802 01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,240 Speaker 22: you know, a couple of the other guys have been released. 1803 01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:32,760 Speaker 2: What you think about him, Yeah, I mean, if you 1804 01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,519 Speaker 2: could get him on an affordable deal, I would say, 1805 01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,600 Speaker 2: keep in mind he's played most of his career in 1806 01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:39,960 Speaker 2: a three four front. That doesn't mean he couldn't find 1807 01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:42,720 Speaker 2: to fit here in some way, shape or form. You know, 1808 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,960 Speaker 2: maybe as a rundown edge player, but then kicking inside right, 1809 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,120 Speaker 2: you know, and that kind of thing, playing under tackle, 1810 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:48,920 Speaker 2: something to that effort. 1811 01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,320 Speaker 4: Well, believe me, Bills are very familiar with who he 1812 01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:52,960 Speaker 4: is and what his game is like. And if he 1813 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,479 Speaker 4: if they could find a place for him, They're they're 1814 01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:59,320 Speaker 4: gonna be familiar with him. And I'm sure they had 1815 01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,120 Speaker 4: a conversation about him, and maybe they still are. I 1816 01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:04,160 Speaker 4: wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility. 1817 01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's possible. One other thing to keep your eye on. 1818 01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,599 Speaker 2: We were talking today about the possibility of a Taron 1819 01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,040 Speaker 2: Johnson extension, knowing that he's entering the last year of 1820 01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:13,840 Speaker 2: his deal and they still need some cap relief and 1821 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,760 Speaker 2: extension can help. Kenny Moore, who's known as one of 1822 01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,880 Speaker 2: the best slot corners in the league for Indianapolis, is 1823 01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:25,040 Speaker 2: a free agent. It's a contract negotiation worth keeping an 1824 01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,360 Speaker 2: eye on because it could set the market for what 1825 01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:31,040 Speaker 2: top nickel corners are paid going forward. 1826 01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:32,360 Speaker 3: But that's it for us today. 1827 01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:35,840 Speaker 2: Steve and I back tomorrow for another exciting edition of 1828 01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:39,560 Speaker 2: One Bill's Live when the free agent market begins the 1829 01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,720 Speaker 2: league year right after we're off the air at four. 1830 01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:46,959 Speaker 2: But we'll see it one