WEBVTT - Allyshia Spills the TEA!

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, well, welcome back to bet Your Happy Hour. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here today with Alicia.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Betterer Happy Hour at your first time on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, thank you so much for having me. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 2>to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>We're excited to have you.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we should start all the way back on

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<v Speaker 4>Grant Season, because we actually talked about you quite a

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<v Speaker 4>bit when we recapped Grant Season because you were such

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<v Speaker 4>a big part of episode.

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<v Speaker 3>One and then poof, you're gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, that is a pretty good recount of how

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<v Speaker 2>things went. I obviously, you guys know, like I did

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<v Speaker 2>have a first kiss with him, We did share a

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<v Speaker 2>really good conversation, and those continued to happen while I

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<v Speaker 2>was on the show. So I was just as equally

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<v Speaker 2>shocked the night that he sent me home the previous

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<v Speaker 2>conversation we had leading into that really ceremony. He also

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<v Speaker 2>kind of gave me reassurance that we had a really

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<v Speaker 2>good connection and he was excited to see me again.

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<v Speaker 2>I gave him some photos of my family and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give these back to you when I see you again.

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<v Speaker 2>So in my head, I'm like, okay, that's him kind

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<v Speaker 2>of giving me a wink, like you're getting through this

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<v Speaker 2>row ceremony without actually doing it. So yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was surprised, but I guess you went how it

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<v Speaker 2>goes on The.

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<v Speaker 3>Bachelor two or week three, Week two?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Two?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like it's going like you share a kiss, everything's

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<v Speaker 1>going well, your conversations are are going well, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he takes photos.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're actually actually see you later.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever did you ever speak with Grant again?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any idea why he did end up

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<v Speaker 1>sending you home?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't know exactly why he sent me home.

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<v Speaker 2>My guest would be like physically, I'm not his type,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he probably doesn't like blondes and blue eyes, which

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<v Speaker 2>is fair enough. We all have a type. I have

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<v Speaker 2>spoken with him after I went to celebrate him and

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<v Speaker 2>ju Leanna at their engagement party post filming, so I

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<v Speaker 2>saw him there and his mom and family, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>all on good pages. It's just very friendly vibes between us. Two.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice because you left the Bachelors so early.

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<v Speaker 3>Were you surprised when you got the call at Paradise?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I was so surprised. I was surprised because I

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<v Speaker 2>left early and I had never watched Paradise before, so

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<v Speaker 2>I really had no idea what to expect. And then,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, going into summer, I had travel planned, so

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<v Speaker 2>I got the call. I was actually in India with

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<v Speaker 2>my little sister, so I kind of scrambled to get

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<v Speaker 2>things together and get back in time to make it

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<v Speaker 2>for Paradise. But I was so excited to be thought of,

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<v Speaker 2>because yeah, I didn't know if I would be getting

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<v Speaker 2>the nod or the look at, you know, from being

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<v Speaker 2>on the show for so such a short amount of time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're half Indian, half white. That's your mix?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, that's my mix. Also, oh my god, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's so crazy. You don't need a lot of like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That mix is kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>Niche, No, truly so niche, but crazy because you're so

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<v Speaker 4>way passing.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was saying to Joe, I was like, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Truly, you just never know what you're gonna get with

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<v Speaker 4>mixed kids, Like you just don't know what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so true, and I kind of love it because

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<v Speaker 2>growing up, people would always assume I just got engaged

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<v Speaker 2>to an Indian. Especially now I'm older, you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>my thirties, they're like, oh, you must have gotten married

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<v Speaker 2>to a mister Gupta and that you've taken on their

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<v Speaker 2>last name.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it's a good example why, you know, you just

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<v Speaker 2>can't judge a book by its cover. People are always

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<v Speaker 2>surprised to see how the gene pool worked out for me.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you see me next to my sister. We

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<v Speaker 2>look people think we're twins. The only difference is she's

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<v Speaker 2>got like your color skin and year round, doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to even see the sun. She's just got this perfect,

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<v Speaker 2>perfect glowing, like all year round tan. But yeah, she

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<v Speaker 2>also has like the white jeans. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we I think are mom was just such

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<v Speaker 2>a bad ass. She passed along all her jeans and

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<v Speaker 2>we only got a little bit of the Indian.

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<v Speaker 4>Mom's jeans are strong. She said, my daughters are gonna

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<v Speaker 4>look like me. I don't care how tam my husband

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<v Speaker 4>is exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you knew my mom, that's like the epitome

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<v Speaker 2>of her personality too, so it actually fits.

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<v Speaker 3>That's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>How I've never been to India, You've never been the India,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a place I want to go. What part

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<v Speaker 1>were you?

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<v Speaker 2>Just?

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<v Speaker 1>What part? Where were you?

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<v Speaker 2>So we did the Golden Triangle, so we did Jaipur,

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<v Speaker 2>we did the taj Mahal and Deli and then into

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<v Speaker 2>the city for a couple of days. And that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like what they recommend doing if you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be all the way over in India because it is

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<v Speaker 2>quite far to get and then between those three places,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a four hour car ride and there's not

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like public transportation, so it really is

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<v Speaker 2>worth seeing all those places when you're already over there.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was amazing. It was the food was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like my favorite part when I travel is trying

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<v Speaker 2>all the And they warned us, they're like, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get Deli belly, like you know. We booked through a

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<v Speaker 2>travel agency that my family in India. They live there

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<v Speaker 2>and they run a travel agency. So I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to take us to all the great places

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<v Speaker 2>and they had all these really gentrified restaurants on the list,

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<v Speaker 2>and my sister and I are like, no, take us

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<v Speaker 2>on a tuk tuk to the middle of the town

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<v Speaker 2>where everybody's getting like I want a translator and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to get some like raw curry puffs or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was incredible. They took us to this market

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<v Speaker 2>and the food was it was the best food I

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<v Speaker 2>had was just at like a random street vendor.

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<v Speaker 1>How was it your first time there?

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<v Speaker 2>It was since I was a little. My dad, so

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<v Speaker 2>my dad's side, the family's from India, but when he

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<v Speaker 2>was growing up, he was actually born in Kenya. So

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<v Speaker 2>even though.

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<v Speaker 4>So my Indian family like is from New Delhi, but

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<v Speaker 4>then my grandparents were born in Kenya.

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<v Speaker 2>So did they flee because of the coup because that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's like the story that I hear is my dad

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<v Speaker 2>says his parents there was like an oppressive group that

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<v Speaker 2>came through India around our grandparents' time, and that's it

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<v Speaker 2>was like kind of unsafe for them, so they went

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<v Speaker 2>and started a business. I guess it was a really

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<v Speaker 2>common thing to go to Kenya from India.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, there's like a huge like seek population in Kenya. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>which I also random, but probably because of that exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So even though yeah, I do have Indian ties, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of my family did migrade from India, so I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't really go back as a child to like visit

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<v Speaker 2>family there per se. But I've been to Africa to

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<v Speaker 2>visit my Indian side the family, and that's like my

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<v Speaker 2>also favorite place on Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I really want to go there. I've never visited

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<v Speaker 3>on my grandparents too.

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<v Speaker 4>My grandparents lived there, they have my uncle there, and

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<v Speaker 4>then they moved to England, which is where a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of Indian fan.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's where my dad's living now. But they all

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<v Speaker 2>doing the same thing. Yeah, they're talking to the same people.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's this tight knit community. All right, we should

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<v Speaker 4>get back to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go. Let's get to the show. But do you

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<v Speaker 1>go to London? Have you been to Dashume?

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<v Speaker 2>I love that, I love Dashume. Yeah, I've been to London.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to school in London for high school, so

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<v Speaker 2>I said a lot of hangover there. I was actually

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<v Speaker 2>born there originally, so I go back a lot. And

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<v Speaker 2>this week I actually have three of my friends from

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<v Speaker 2>England that are coming to visit me in LA and

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<v Speaker 2>they've never been here. So I'm going to do like

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<v Speaker 2>the grand tour. Exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's so funny. You can do a little watch

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<v Speaker 3>party with them if they're.

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<v Speaker 2>In Oh yeah, exactly. They have no idea what they're

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<v Speaker 2>in store for. I don't think they get it over there,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's gonna be a lot of catching them up.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you so you you end up going on

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<v Speaker 1>Paradise where you hesitant all about going where you just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like all in, like, yeah, I'll take another

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<v Speaker 1>shot at this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think I was all in. Obviously, there are

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<v Speaker 2>things that you the unknown can be scary, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think for me, the only hesitancy was are there going

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<v Speaker 2>to be any genuine quality men there that I could

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<v Speaker 2>see myself actually binding romance with? And if not, then no,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go do that. That sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>my version of hell, to be honest, like stuck with

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<v Speaker 2>nothing around you, in no way to escape, and all

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do is talk to guys you're not

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<v Speaker 2>interested in. No, I go to a bar on a

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<v Speaker 2>Friday night if I wanted to do that. So I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to know who's going to be there. But obviously

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<v Speaker 2>that's like part of the lore, and they keep that

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<v Speaker 2>a surprise. And once I realized, you know, you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to go in blind and I just have to fully hope,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think I did I just went in with

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<v Speaker 2>really high expectations and I was optimistic that there would

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<v Speaker 2>be someone for me there. So once I got my

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<v Speaker 2>head wrapped around that, and I was kind of approaching

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<v Speaker 2>it from that mindset, it was like, what do I

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<v Speaker 2>have to lose, Like, go have fun on the beach,

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<v Speaker 2>make some friend, and hopefully make out with some guys

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<v Speaker 2>and find romance. Best case scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, I mean I wouldn't make out with guys,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I agree with everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>But everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, were you? Were there any guys like on your list?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have a list of guys that you were

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<v Speaker 1>potentially interested in?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I've watched the Bachelor franchise, but not all of it,

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<v Speaker 2>so I kind of wanted to keep it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>They have recommended going back and watching things, but as

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who's been on the show, I know that what

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<v Speaker 2>you are shown isn't always what the person is like

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<v Speaker 2>on the inside, and so I didn't want to really

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<v Speaker 2>go in with preconceived notions and expectations of these men.

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<v Speaker 2>Dale Moss and Pilot Pete. Pilot Pete since has a girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So Dale was on your list? Yeah, that was a

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<v Speaker 3>long shot.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I don't think anyone really expected to see

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<v Speaker 4>him down there, but he is. He's in paradise. You

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<v Speaker 4>walk in, does he immediately catch your eye? Does someone

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<v Speaker 4>else catch your eye? What is your initial reaction?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So when I came in the way they had

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<v Speaker 2>arranged it was there was this Birds of Paradise challenge

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<v Speaker 2>where all the guys dressed up in these crazy costumes

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<v Speaker 2>and feathers and then came out doing like mating calls

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<v Speaker 2>and dances. So the women were all sat outside waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for the men to come out one by one, and

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<v Speaker 2>I actually entered with just the group of women. So

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<v Speaker 2>at first that's all I knew who. I knew the

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<v Speaker 2>women who were going to be there, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know what guys were there.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you kind of had like a fashion show

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<v Speaker 3>of men.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, as they were coming out like one by one,

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<v Speaker 2>that was my real time learning who was there for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time, which was really exciting and very fun

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<v Speaker 2>way to be brought into the whole experience. But yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's when the I saw Dale for the first time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was surprised. I don't think. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>when he walked out, I like registered, Oh, that's Dale.

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<v Speaker 2>He was on my list of people I'd be interested in.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just this hot body with like a red

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<v Speaker 2>feathered dress on, and I was wearing red feather so

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<v Speaker 2>all the couple seemed to be matching that night, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Oh, okay, is this like a cue

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<v Speaker 2>that this person somebody I should be like coupling up

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<v Speaker 2>with or like looking at. And then we did have

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<v Speaker 2>a really good conversation, like right away. We hit it

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<v Speaker 2>off immediately, and we had really good chemistry. So I

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<v Speaker 2>did notice him. He was definitely like one of the

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<v Speaker 2>first people I would say I was excited to see there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, I mean it comes across that way as

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<v Speaker 1>if you were watching it, it seems like you guys

0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.280
<v Speaker 1>do have really good chemistry. It seems like you're both

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<v Speaker 1>interested in each other. You seem to like Sean, but

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like you are definitely more interested in dal Well.

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<v Speaker 4>And I mean, your first impression of Sean was him

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<v Speaker 4>making it with April, so maybe you need a little

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<v Speaker 4>more time to get to know him.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like the Actually that was the only redeeming

0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.080
<v Speaker 2>thing of Sean that night. I thought that was hilarious

0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.319
<v Speaker 2>that he did that. But we did have a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>right after, and everybody was drinking and having fun, and

0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I told Sean this our first conversation. He was just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like tipsy and being silly, and like, I

0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:14.080
<v Speaker 2>don't think he remembers a lot of it. And from

0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.600
<v Speaker 2>that conversation, yeah, I was like a little bit, you know,

0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:20.520
<v Speaker 2>skeptical of him. So and on top of that, like

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, Dale is just physically my type. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I've dated tons of different looking people, but if I

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<v Speaker 2>had to say I have a type, it would be

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<v Speaker 2>like tall, dark, handsome, So he fits that. Bill Sean

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<v Speaker 2>is definitely a complete replica of my ex boyfriend, which

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<v Speaker 2>also scared me. And that's something I conveyed to Sean

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<v Speaker 2>early on, and like I was pretty open about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was also why I think I was a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit like trepidacious with the Shawn encounter at first.

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<v Speaker 1>So why choose Sean on a date over Dale?

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<v Speaker 2>So that morning I woke up and I was really torn.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea who I was going to choose

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<v Speaker 2>because there was a Row ceremony that evening, so it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't just take somebody on a first date. It was

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<v Speaker 2>also now there's a rose ceremony.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, let me just break this now real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>So you get in at night during a challenge where

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's dressed like a bird, and then and being.

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<v Speaker 2>Silly and goofy and like we're all lighthearted. The guys

0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.640
<v Speaker 2>and the girls were both like locked down before that

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<v Speaker 2>in a thunderstorm, so we were drinking in the hotel rooms.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just like a very lighthearted night, and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of like their alter ego. So I almost

0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:45.240
<v Speaker 2>came in and met everybody's crazy night out alter ego.

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<v Speaker 2>Woke up the next morning and then had to decide

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<v Speaker 2>who was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>A date with and then that night is a row ceremony, yes, okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>And when you're on.

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<v Speaker 2>A date, you're gone all day. So it's like I

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<v Speaker 2>would literally be going into a row ceremony hoping that

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<v Speaker 2>whoever I took on the date is going to give

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<v Speaker 2>me a rose. And in my head, Sean was way

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<v Speaker 2>more open and had a rose to give, and the

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<v Speaker 2>way I viewed it was Dale was much less likely

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<v Speaker 2>to give me a rose, saying that he's been with

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<v Speaker 2>Kat for like ten days at this point, and in

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<v Speaker 2>my head, like, I don't think anybody who's a good

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<v Speaker 2>person would ditch somebody for ten days over somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>walked in for one day, so that is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like the right thing for him to do. So that

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<v Speaker 2>was the first thing that kind of made my decision

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<v Speaker 2>to take Sean on the date, and then the second

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<v Speaker 2>one was the two conversations I had that morning. I

0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:38.840
<v Speaker 2>pulled Dale and Sean separately and talked to them for

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit before giving out that day card, and

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<v Speaker 2>both conversations were great. In Dale's conversation, something that stood

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<v Speaker 2>out to me was he had expressed his interest in

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<v Speaker 2>going on the date with me, but encouraged me that

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<v Speaker 2>if I don't pick him, it's not going to change

0:14:58.080 --> 0:14:59.720
<v Speaker 2>us getting to know each other. It's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>stop him from wanting to get to know me and

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<v Speaker 2>continue like building something. So it kind of seemed like

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<v Speaker 2>a no brainer decision. I can keep getting to know

0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:12.040
<v Speaker 2>someone who I'm physically attracted to but don't know enough

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<v Speaker 2>about his personality, and stick around to guarantee that I

0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.560
<v Speaker 2>can get to know everybody a lot more.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, no brainer, Like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And the reality is, like the show is about

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<v Speaker 4>finding love, but there is a little strategy involved to

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<v Speaker 4>get to the point.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the opportunity of exactly. Yeah, because to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to have that time and being the last one out

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<v Speaker 2>so I could lie and be like I was just

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to get to know Sean Moore. That was

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<v Speaker 2>part of it, one hundred percent. I wanted to get

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<v Speaker 2>to know either of those guys that I took on

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<v Speaker 2>the date. I was interested in getting to know more

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<v Speaker 2>at that point. But why wouldn't I pick the person

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<v Speaker 2>who's going to give me a good shot at sticking

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<v Speaker 2>around that night?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the last thing you want to do is go

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<v Speaker 4>on the date with Dale. Maybe the connection is not

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<v Speaker 4>really there. You He ends up giving his rose to Cat,

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<v Speaker 4>as you probably expected he would, even if the date

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<v Speaker 4>went great exact, then you're out of there twenty four

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<v Speaker 4>hours in without getting to now explore Sean.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, explore Sean. Do you think if you had zero

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<v Speaker 1>interest in Sean you would have still made that decision?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Okay, no, because it was like I was very

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<v Speaker 2>split that morning waking up, and I really did consider

0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.480
<v Speaker 2>giving it to Dale because of you know what I said, Like,

0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.520
<v Speaker 2>there's also no point in being there if you don't

0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.960
<v Speaker 2>think that you have a connection with someone. So if

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see anything coming out of a relationship with

0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Sean and that leading somewhere. Then No, I definitely would

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<v Speaker 2>have just picked Dale and been like, sh who cares.

0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:39.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't care if I go home and don't get

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<v Speaker 2>the rose because I don't want to be here interested

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<v Speaker 2>in any of the other guys.

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<v Speaker 3>How did the day go a Sean?

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<v Speaker 2>It was good. It was really intense, which is another

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<v Speaker 2>reason I'm glad I picked him. In retrospect, they had

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<v Speaker 2>us explore the five senses through like taste, touch, sound,

0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:00.000
<v Speaker 2>and we had these little cards that prompted each stage,

0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:05.719
<v Speaker 2>and they were very intimate. Just all of them were like,

0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, rub this honey here and get the ice

0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.080
<v Speaker 2>cube in a place that you're going to get goosebumps.

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<v Speaker 2>So I couldn't imagine. That's not what I imagine for

0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.600
<v Speaker 2>any first date, but for it to be with Sean,

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<v Speaker 2>who I did feel really comfortable with and we did

0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:23.359
<v Speaker 2>have like the friend foundation there. I was much more

0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.480
<v Speaker 2>comfortable in that situation than had I picked Dale or

0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:30.520
<v Speaker 2>anybody else for that matter, just basically sitting down and

0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:32.600
<v Speaker 2>then just like making out and rubbing honey and licking

0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.720
<v Speaker 2>chocolate off each other's body parts.

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<v Speaker 1>So, after your date with Sean, is the romantic connection

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<v Speaker 1>growing or are you still like, Ah, I like this

0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.600
<v Speaker 1>guy more of a friend. Want to see what happens

0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:48.000
<v Speaker 1>with Dale.

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<v Speaker 2>After the date, I was definitely felt more interested in

0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Sean than I was at first, because it was so

0:17:56.640 --> 0:18:00.720
<v Speaker 2>easy and natural, and I just felt very comfortable around him.

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<v Speaker 2>We had so much in common. We really connected on

0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.080
<v Speaker 2>like a deep family level, and we opened up about

0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.720
<v Speaker 2>our past and our upbringings and things we're looking for

0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.640
<v Speaker 2>in our future and our future partners, and a lot

0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:15.479
<v Speaker 2>of those things aligned. So that made me feel like

0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.040
<v Speaker 2>I made the right decision because I picked somebody who

0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:20.800
<v Speaker 2>at the core is looking for the same things that

0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I essentially am over just looks, which in the past

0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I have gone from, you know, just the good looking guy,

0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.400
<v Speaker 2>and it lets you down because That's not what I'm

0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.160
<v Speaker 2>looking for. At the end of the day, I need,

0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:32.399
<v Speaker 2>like so much more than just that.

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<v Speaker 4>As a viewer, it seems like there is this spark

0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:40.680
<v Speaker 4>and this mutual interest between you and Dale, but then

0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:45.239
<v Speaker 4>moving into this latest episode, we don't really see it

0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.440
<v Speaker 4>go any further what happened there.

0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:56.040
<v Speaker 2>So it was really I feel like that it was

0:18:56.080 --> 0:19:00.800
<v Speaker 2>just kind of it was always going to be that way,

0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.240
<v Speaker 2>just because the timing of when I came in that

0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:08.600
<v Speaker 2>after that really ceremony that was when it was announced

0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Jesse announced that it's no longer a dating show. It's

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<v Speaker 2>now going to be a competition show, and the couple

0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:19.240
<v Speaker 2>that wins is going to be the couple that gets

0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:22.119
<v Speaker 2>through these tests and relationship challenges and basically like the

0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:25.120
<v Speaker 2>best couple together at this point. So in my head,

0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm like one that completely gets rid of the whole

0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.439
<v Speaker 2>like dating around part of the show, which I was

0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.040
<v Speaker 2>deprived of because of the time I came in, Like

0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.199
<v Speaker 2>I didn't get that opportunity to do that.

0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.520
<v Speaker 1>So you're basically you just you just walked onto a

0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:44.040
<v Speaker 1>challenge show basically.

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<v Speaker 2>And I picked my partner, and at this point, like

0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:49.080
<v Speaker 2>it would be it's lucrative for all of us and

0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.639
<v Speaker 2>couples to spend our time and focus on getting to

0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.720
<v Speaker 2>know the person we're with, especially me because I just

0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:59.679
<v Speaker 2>got there and everybody else's ten days advantage knowing these people,

0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.280
<v Speaker 2>and like I come in, none of the guys, like

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<v Speaker 2>at first, hardly any of the guys even came up

0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:06.240
<v Speaker 2>and like introduce themselves to me, which I thought was like,

0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:09.399
<v Speaker 2>even that was strange, and I get it. It's just

0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.199
<v Speaker 2>like a bizarre situation because people are in couples and

0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:16.320
<v Speaker 2>whatnot and they don't want to give anybody like nerves

0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.080
<v Speaker 2>or fear that they're interested in another person who walks in.

0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.600
<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, it was yeah, very like

0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:25.720
<v Speaker 2>intimidating to me going into now a competition and I

0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:27.960
<v Speaker 2>feel like I don't hardly know any of these people.

0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:30.440
<v Speaker 2>They're not really trying to talk to me or make

0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:34.639
<v Speaker 2>a connection because they have their established connections. And yeah,

0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:36.800
<v Speaker 2>I've also have been told like it's gonna be kind

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<v Speaker 2>of taboo to I would have continued to pursue Dale

0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.120
<v Speaker 2>and like get to know him more. And I think,

0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.880
<v Speaker 2>to answer your question in short, because of the way

0:20:46.960 --> 0:20:49.439
<v Speaker 2>the show turned into a competition at that point, I

0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:53.680
<v Speaker 2>don't think it was ever going to progress because both

0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Dale and I at that were kind of everybody going

0:20:57.680 --> 0:20:58.320
<v Speaker 2>to their partners.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're on a unfortunately a just a a different

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<v Speaker 1>show because I would say, like majority of past seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>like even at this point in the show, no one's

0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:16.840
<v Speaker 1>really locked lockdown exactly. There was more and even being

0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:22.439
<v Speaker 1>just like the location of Mexico and on the beach,

0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:27.800
<v Speaker 1>it just had more of like an openness to mingle

0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:30.880
<v Speaker 1>and just like hang out as a group. Don't you think.

0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:40.359
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly how I felt? And I was really you know,

0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:42.760
<v Speaker 2>going back to I was kind of all in when

0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I got the call to come to Paradise. I was

0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:47.280
<v Speaker 2>really excited at that and to get to know everyone.

0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Some of the best the best thing that came from

0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:53.240
<v Speaker 2>my season on Grants was all the women and like

0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:57.080
<v Speaker 2>those relationships that I made, and that's that's just it's

0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:00.520
<v Speaker 2>meant so much to me and like will be friends forever.

0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:02.200
<v Speaker 2>So in my head, I'm like, I'm going to meet

0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:05.359
<v Speaker 2>some really incredible people that I share this cool experience with.

0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:08.080
<v Speaker 2>And I did, and I don't take that back, but

0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:10.320
<v Speaker 2>it was a very different experience than I thought it

0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:13.320
<v Speaker 2>would be, like going on a dationally show versus a

0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:16.440
<v Speaker 2>dating show. And I do think that had I come

0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:22.359
<v Speaker 2>in day one or day two like earlier days, I

0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:24.720
<v Speaker 2>do think that I, like Dayla and I probably would

0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.600
<v Speaker 2>have ended up being coupled up. I think we did

0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:30.200
<v Speaker 2>have a lot more in common than him and Kat

0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:31.399
<v Speaker 2>did in some ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, do you so when when Jesse comes down and

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<v Speaker 1>essentially switches the structure of the show. Are you and

0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Sean now more focused on like, all right, let's let's

0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:48.840
<v Speaker 1>try to win a post to like let's get to

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:50.600
<v Speaker 1>know each other and see if we want a date

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:51.600
<v Speaker 1>in the real world.

0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:53.879
<v Speaker 2>I think Sean and I were in a really good

0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:58.600
<v Speaker 2>position because we were getting to know each other, and

0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:01.160
<v Speaker 2>this was just like a way to expedite that, right

0:23:01.320 --> 0:23:03.320
<v Speaker 2>because it was like we had to get to know

0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.719
<v Speaker 2>each other even quicker now, and we had to do

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 2>like play catch up on the time that we didn't

0:23:08.520 --> 0:23:12.520
<v Speaker 2>have together that other people did. And there also was

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:15.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a lightness to it, like we didn't

0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:18.920
<v Speaker 2>feel pressure at all because everybody else had ten days

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 2>to like know their couple. We just met each other,

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.760
<v Speaker 2>so we're not really expected to know each other to

0:23:24.840 --> 0:23:29.000
<v Speaker 2>the same degree and level as everybody else. But because

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:31.400
<v Speaker 2>we had so much in common and like our core

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:36.960
<v Speaker 2>values were like very similar, I think we both felt

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:40.439
<v Speaker 2>pretty good that we knew enough about each other to

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:42.960
<v Speaker 2>be able to, like, you know, make educated guesses on

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:47.359
<v Speaker 2>certain things, leading into some of the challenges where you

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:49.159
<v Speaker 2>know you had to know your partner. I think if

0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:51.959
<v Speaker 2>you know enough about someone, you can kind of infer or,

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:56.200
<v Speaker 2>like guess what their answer would be to some things.

0:23:56.800 --> 0:23:59.679
<v Speaker 2>So I think we felt pretty strong to say. We

0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 2>had really short amount of time together, and I don't

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:06.879
<v Speaker 2>think we were thinking of the money, because truly, neither

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:09.199
<v Speaker 2>of us thought that we were going to be the

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:12.879
<v Speaker 2>strongest couple at the end, Like that was such a

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:15.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, one in a million kind of thing for

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:18.639
<v Speaker 2>it to be us, So we weren't expecting that. We

0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:21.160
<v Speaker 2>just it was fun. It made getting to know each

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.679
<v Speaker 2>other even more fun because it had kind of like

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:25.600
<v Speaker 2>a reason to have those conversations, and it was a

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 2>super organic way of you know, asking how many kids

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 2>do you want? That's just not something you would bring

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 2>up out of the blue randomly, but when you're playing

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:37.240
<v Speaker 2>these games and you need to know certain things about someone, Yeah,

0:24:37.359 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 2>it just really expedited that whole honeymoon getting to know

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:41.640
<v Speaker 2>each other.

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 1>VASE was as a group, was there like a majority

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 1>of people like, oh, I think I think Andrew and

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Alex are the strongest couple right now, Like, was there

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:57.440
<v Speaker 1>any couple that was kind of like fared amongst the

0:24:57.520 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 1>others for the competition?

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:06.479
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Jess and Spencer were always the strongest couple. I

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 2>think for everyone, just because they coupled up so early,

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:14.399
<v Speaker 2>they were always connected by the hip, and so I

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 2>would say those two were the strongest couple.

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 3>That makes sense.

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 4>We see that Jeremy and Bailey win the challenge, and

0:25:24.160 --> 0:25:27.639
<v Speaker 4>the advantage is that they get to send a couple

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 4>home at the Rose ceremony. Were you surprised that they

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 4>chose Gary and Leslie and why do you think they

0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:36.240
<v Speaker 4>made that choice?

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:42.120
<v Speaker 2>No, I wasn't surprised. So that was such a tough

0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:44.679
<v Speaker 2>Rose ceremony because we knew it was going to be

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 2>a Golden going home, or at least I think we

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 2>all assumed it was. At that point. A lot of

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:52.639
<v Speaker 2>the Goldens who were there and who had been coupled

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 2>up had been very vocal about the fact that it's

0:25:56.600 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 2>platonic relationships. They've had their great love or you know,

0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:03.640
<v Speaker 2>they like this guy as a friend, but now they're

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 2>just kind of there for the experience, and they're really

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:10.480
<v Speaker 2>open about that. So I think all of the younger

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:15.640
<v Speaker 2>generation couples were thinking based on this being paradise and

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 2>looking for a connection and love. I would assume we're

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 2>going to prioritize like the real couples that are trying

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.679
<v Speaker 2>for that and sends a Golden's home. And also all

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 2>of the Goldens were so they kind of knew that

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:30.199
<v Speaker 2>they should be going home, like you know, they're saying like,

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:34.119
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, like we aren't romantic or you guys are

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 2>going to have a great time, but like we're really

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 2>enjoying our time just while we're here. So I expected

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:42.560
<v Speaker 2>a Golden to go home. I didn't know it was

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 2>going to be Gary and Leslie. But after Gary's crazy

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 2>bet zoo he did.

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 3>Why do you think he did that?

0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 2>I think Gary gets caught up in like the performance

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 2>and some of the showmanship, and I think he was

0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 2>having fun and he was, you know, doing a little

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:04.359
<v Speaker 2>bit of like a bit, and it probably wasn't even

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:07.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if it registered through his head

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 2>the consequences of making that bet. And I don't know

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 2>if he did the math in his head. You could

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 2>literally just throw a chep. You could just guess the

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 2>wrong answer and still be safe. So I don't know

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 2>why he did it, but you know, if you're going

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 2>to be irresponsible, you're making that decision not just for

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 2>you but for your couple now, because that's how we're

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 2>playing this game, and unfortunately you made like a really

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 2>risky move and it didn't pay off. And I think

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:38.320
<v Speaker 2>that's ultimately why it was Gary who got sent home

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 2>that way.

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly what I said.

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 3>Exactly what you said.

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 4>I think that it seems like genius is I think

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 4>that it seems like Gary and Leslie as much as

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:55.639
<v Speaker 4>they were exploring a romantic connection. I think, you know,

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 4>Gary's mistake definitely put them in jeopardy, and then on

0:27:57.920 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 4>top of that, it did seem like Faith and Kim

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:04.439
<v Speaker 4>had a stronger romantic connection. So if you plays are

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 4>kind of making these decisions based off that, it would

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 4>make sense that they would go with Leslie and Gary exactly.

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 2>And I mean that was Bailey's ultimately decision to make,

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 2>so I know that was probably really hard for her,

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think it was an easy decision. I'm

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:27.320
<v Speaker 2>not sure if Jeremy had anything to say about it,

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:30.160
<v Speaker 2>or if he encouraged her one way or the other,

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 2>But that was not easy to send any of the

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Goldens home. I can't imagine, especially for somebody who's such

0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 2>a sweetheart like Bailey has such a sweet and a

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 2>sense to her, and she really does care about people.

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 2>So that was really hard. That was a really hard

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 2>road ceremony.

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, with what has been aired of the show thus far,

0:28:52.960 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 1>is there anything that has shocked you from what you're

0:28:56.360 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 1>seeing within.

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Like the couples, Yeah, a lot.

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Anything stand out within the Jeremy and Bailey stuff.

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 4>You want to just say it because we're talking about Bailey.

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 2>So that surprised me. So here's what happened. The boys

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 2>had a really good strong group and camaraderie, and they

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.880
<v Speaker 2>were going back to their rooms and like before Row

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 2>ceremonies and cocktail parties and talking and so you know,

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.960
<v Speaker 2>the Jeremy thing. I'm sure he brought up to the

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 2>guys and they were all aware of it. So when

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I did hear about the Susi thing through the telephone,

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't believe that it had gone ten days without

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 2>anybody bringing it up. I think that you are just

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>as guilty if you know something and you stay quiet,

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 2>and you choose to stay quiet, But I think you're

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 2>just as complicit and like the guilty. I think what's

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 2>hard is I was surprised. I didn't realize how many

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 2>times Jeremy like doubled down and said that like I

0:29:58.120 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 2>don't want to win with Bailey. I want to call

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Susie back, where Susie like he was a broken record,

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 2>and he said it so many times now I thought

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 2>it when I heard it, I thought it was just

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 2>one passing phone call to call her to come back,

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:09.800
<v Speaker 2>which was like not a big deal at all, Like

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think Bailey would even care to hear that.

0:30:12.680 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 2>But now knowing how involved it is and how much

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 2>he said it, I think that's probably what pushed Brian,

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 2>because he's hearing it in the guy's room like every night,

0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure Jeremy brought it up more than once,

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 2>which is probably why he felt like so compelled to

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 2>say something like what else have you been hiding in

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>line to me? Like I've I felt really bad for her,

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:37.959
<v Speaker 2>and I felt bad that I wasn't there because had

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 2>I been there, like there was no way that would

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 2>have got to day ten without her knowing that as my.

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Girlfriend playing Devil's advocate here a little bit just for fun.

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Is there any bit of grace for Jeremy talking about

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>this amongst the guys in his room, where it's more

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>like he's venting, venting, and not really one hundred meaning it.

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I like the him calling Susie. That's like, you know,

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 1>that's just like, well you did that, Yeah, that you happened.

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 1>But is there any bit of that or is it

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like.

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:27.040
<v Speaker 4>I think as a girl, it gets complicated when everyone

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 4>else knows.

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 3>It's not like he was in a.

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 4>Private setting venting to a friend and like it got

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 4>it got out and he was like, look, I was

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 4>truly just burning off some steam. Like I think it's

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 4>like you're micd up, you're on camera. It's getting around

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.160
<v Speaker 4>the beach, and for really to be the last to know,

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 4>like the impact is just going to be so much

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 4>more of a gut punch.

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's a good excuse because at that point,

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 2>as a friend, you could just feel like, hey, you're

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 2>my friend, but I'm going to do the right thing

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 2>and this is the right thing and you know that.

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Let's I'll help you out with it. We can both

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>do like whatever. But staying quiet I just don't think's fair.

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 2>And I think the other part that's hard. Yeah, everybody knowing,

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 2>but now he's saying this and it's like ten twelve

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 2>days later, like however many days into it, I think

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:16.200
<v Speaker 2>as a woman, I would be feeling to have uncertainties

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 2>I think are it's normal. But then after a certain

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>amount of days and when you're being told something else,

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 2>and then behind your back you're being questioned like if

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 2>you're compatible, or if he likes you, or if he

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 2>wants whatever, I think that part would be hard for me.

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know who.

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 4>I would have loved to see Zoe.

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Throw her back in there.

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Zoey.

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Zoe would not have let this get so far. Zoe

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 3>would have been all over it.

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 2>Zoe would have been all over it. But that's like,

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 2>that's what I respect about her. And like, also, we're

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 2>all adults. Like, we're all adults. It's just not that deep.

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't I also don't understand when we're on a

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 2>show with cameras, mics, this is all gonna come out,

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 2>you guys know, like it's all gonna come out. So

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>why wouldn't you just be honest about the things you're

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 2>saying and doing and get ahead of it and own

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 2>it like it. That's the to me, a no brainer

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 2>and win win for everyone involved.

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, anything else that surprised you before we wrap up?

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 2>I was surprised. I had no idea idea about Jill,

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 2>like being upset the night that she left, the night

0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 2>I came in, like, I had no idea until she

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 2>came up and gave me a goodbye saying she was

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.440
<v Speaker 2>like leaving, that she was even thinking about going, So

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 2>that was a surprise. I didn't know Kat was mad

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 2>at Dale the night that we started talking. I had

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 2>no idea there was that drama going on. I had

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 2>no idea Jonathan was pursuing Kat so much behind closed

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 2>doors that was like so sneaky, And did not know

0:33:54.680 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 2>that was happening between any of them and.

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 4>We else, I know, did any of the Parisa and

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 4>Brian Steff surprise you.

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 1>No, Well, yeah, and your roommates with Prisa, So would

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 1>makes sense? That would that makes sense?

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I just Brian and Prisa are both such strong,

0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 2>like unique personalities, and you know, sometimes they say opposites attract,

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>and I think they were kind of polarizing forces. But

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 2>it worked for them, and because of that, there was

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 2>just a lot of theatrics that came with the territory

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 2>and it was I love I love being around them

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>and watching them, like I think they're hilarious.

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Nice. Well, thank you so much. For coming on the

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:48.320
<v Speaker 1>podcast and taking the time. I'm sure this is the last,

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>well it might be the last time you're on this podcast,

0:34:50.160 --> 0:34:51.919
<v Speaker 1>but we're going to see more of you the rest

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>of the season.

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you so much for having me. This

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 2>was fun and I can't believe how much of a weird,

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 2>insanely similar background you have.

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 4>I know that was actually the coolest part of this

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 4>podcast from yes, because I can't say I've ever met

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<v Speaker 4>someone with the same ethic background as me.

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<v Speaker 2>Me either, And you get it now, Like I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm with a kindred spirit who, like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even have to speak. You just understand. You understand, I

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<v Speaker 2>get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it girl.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are best friends. Okay. And to all our listeners,

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<v Speaker 1>especially the ones that are half Indian, half white, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much. Thank you so much for tuning in

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<v Speaker 1>the Battery Happy Hour. Make sure you download and subscribe

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, keep tuning in to Bachelor in Paradise every single

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<v Speaker 3>week and we will have new and exclusive interviews for

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<v Speaker 3>you as well. Thanks for listening. Bye.