1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Hey, well, welcome back to bet Your Happy Hour. I'm 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here today with Alicia. 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Welcome to Betterer Happy Hour at your first time on 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: the podcast. 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you so much for having me. I'm excited 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: to be here. 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 3: We're excited to have you. 8 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 4: I think we should start all the way back on 9 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 4: Grant Season, because we actually talked about you quite a 10 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 4: bit when we recapped Grant Season because you were such 11 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 4: a big part of episode. 12 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 3: One and then poof, you're gone. 13 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that is a pretty good recount of how 14 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 2: things went. I obviously, you guys know, like I did 15 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: have a first kiss with him, We did share a 16 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: really good conversation, and those continued to happen while I 17 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: was on the show. So I was just as equally 18 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: shocked the night that he sent me home the previous 19 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: conversation we had leading into that really ceremony. He also 20 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: kind of gave me reassurance that we had a really 21 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: good connection and he was excited to see me again. 22 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: I gave him some photos of my family and he said, 23 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: I'll give these back to you when I see you again. 24 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: So in my head, I'm like, okay, that's him kind 25 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: of giving me a wink, like you're getting through this 26 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: row ceremony without actually doing it. So yeah, I was. 27 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: I was surprised, but I guess you went how it 28 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: goes on The. 29 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: Bachelor two or week three, Week two? 30 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: Right? Two? 31 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's interesting. 32 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 3: That's so shocking. 33 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, like it's going like you share a kiss, everything's 34 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 1: going well, your conversations are are going well, and then 35 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: he takes photos. 36 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 4: And you're actually actually see you later. 37 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: Did you ever did you ever speak with Grant again? 38 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: Do you have any idea why he did end up 39 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: sending you home? 40 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: No, I don't know exactly why he sent me home. 41 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: My guest would be like physically, I'm not his type, 42 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: Like he probably doesn't like blondes and blue eyes, which 43 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: is fair enough. We all have a type. I have 44 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: spoken with him after I went to celebrate him and 45 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: ju Leanna at their engagement party post filming, so I 46 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 2: saw him there and his mom and family, and we're 47 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: all on good pages. It's just very friendly vibes between us. Two. 48 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 4: Nice because you left the Bachelors so early. 49 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: Were you surprised when you got the call at Paradise? 50 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? I was so surprised. I was surprised because I 51 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: left early and I had never watched Paradise before, so 52 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 2: I really had no idea what to expect. And then, 53 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: you know, going into summer, I had travel planned, so 54 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: I got the call. I was actually in India with 55 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: my little sister, so I kind of scrambled to get 56 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 2: things together and get back in time to make it 57 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: for Paradise. But I was so excited to be thought of, 58 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: because yeah, I didn't know if I would be getting 59 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: the nod or the look at, you know, from being 60 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 2: on the show for so such a short amount of time. 61 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're half Indian, half white. That's your mix? 62 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, that's my mix. Also, oh my god, but 63 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 2: that's so crazy. You don't need a lot of like that. 64 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 2: That mix is kind of. 65 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 4: Niche, No, truly so niche, but crazy because you're so 66 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 4: way passing. 67 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 3: And I was saying to Joe, I was like, it's. 68 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 4: Truly, you just never know what you're gonna get with 69 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: mixed kids, Like you just don't know what's gonna happen. 70 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: It's so true, and I kind of love it because 71 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: growing up, people would always assume I just got engaged 72 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: to an Indian. Especially now I'm older, you know, in 73 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: my thirties, they're like, oh, you must have gotten married 74 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: to a mister Gupta and that you've taken on their 75 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 2: last name. 76 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I. 77 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: Think it's a good example why, you know, you just 78 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: can't judge a book by its cover. People are always 79 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: surprised to see how the gene pool worked out for me. 80 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: But then you see me next to my sister. We 81 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: look people think we're twins. The only difference is she's 82 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: got like your color skin and year round, doesn't have 83 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: to even see the sun. She's just got this perfect, 84 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: perfect glowing, like all year round tan. But yeah, she 85 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: also has like the white jeans. So I don't know, 86 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: I think we I think are mom was just such 87 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: a bad ass. She passed along all her jeans and 88 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: we only got a little bit of the Indian. 89 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: Mom's jeans are strong. She said, my daughters are gonna 90 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: look like me. I don't care how tam my husband 91 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 4: is exactly. 92 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: And if you knew my mom, that's like the epitome 93 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: of her personality too, so it actually fits. 94 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: That's hilarious. 95 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: How I've never been to India, You've never been the India, 96 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: But it's a place I want to go. What part 97 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: were you? 98 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: Just? 99 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: What part? Where were you? 100 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: So we did the Golden Triangle, so we did Jaipur, 101 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: we did the taj Mahal and Deli and then into 102 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: the city for a couple of days. And that's kind 103 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: of like what they recommend doing if you're going to 104 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: be all the way over in India because it is 105 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: quite far to get and then between those three places, 106 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: it's like a four hour car ride and there's not 107 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: a lot of like public transportation, so it really is 108 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: worth seeing all those places when you're already over there. 109 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: But it was amazing. It was the food was unbelievable. 110 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: That's like my favorite part when I travel is trying 111 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: all the And they warned us, they're like, you're gonna 112 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: get Deli belly, like you know. We booked through a 113 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: travel agency that my family in India. They live there 114 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 2: and they run a travel agency. So I'm like, Okay, 115 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: they're going to take us to all the great places 116 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: and they had all these really gentrified restaurants on the list, 117 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: and my sister and I are like, no, take us 118 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: on a tuk tuk to the middle of the town 119 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: where everybody's getting like I want a translator and I 120 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 2: want to get some like raw curry puffs or something, 121 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: and it was incredible. They took us to this market 122 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: and the food was it was the best food I 123 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 2: had was just at like a random street vendor. 124 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: How was it your first time there? 125 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: It was since I was a little. My dad, so 126 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 2: my dad's side, the family's from India, but when he 127 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: was growing up, he was actually born in Kenya. So 128 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: even though. 129 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 4: So my Indian family like is from New Delhi, but 130 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 4: then my grandparents were born in Kenya. 131 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: So did they flee because of the coup because that's 132 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: that's like the story that I hear is my dad 133 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: says his parents there was like an oppressive group that 134 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: came through India around our grandparents' time, and that's it 135 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: was like kind of unsafe for them, so they went 136 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: and started a business. I guess it was a really 137 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: common thing to go to Kenya from India. 138 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 4: So yeah, there's like a huge like seek population in Kenya. Yeah, 139 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: which I also random, but probably because of that exactly. 140 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: So even though yeah, I do have Indian ties, a 141 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 2: lot of my family did migrade from India, so I 142 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: didn't really go back as a child to like visit 143 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: family there per se. But I've been to Africa to 144 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: visit my Indian side the family, and that's like my 145 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 2: also favorite place on Earth. 146 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really want to go there. I've never visited 147 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: on my grandparents too. 148 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: My grandparents lived there, they have my uncle there, and 149 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 4: then they moved to England, which is where a lot 150 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: of Indian fan. 151 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: And that's where my dad's living now. But they all 152 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: doing the same thing. Yeah, they're talking to the same people. 153 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 154 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's this tight knit community. All right, we should 155 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 4: get back to the show. 156 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's get to the show. But do you 157 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: go to London? Have you been to Dashume? 158 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: I love that, I love Dashume. Yeah, I've been to London. 159 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: I went to school in London for high school, so 160 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: I said a lot of hangover there. I was actually 161 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: born there originally, so I go back a lot. And 162 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: this week I actually have three of my friends from 163 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: England that are coming to visit me in LA and 164 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: they've never been here. So I'm going to do like 165 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: the grand tour. Exciting. 166 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: Oh that's so funny. You can do a little watch 167 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: party with them if they're. 168 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: In Oh yeah, exactly. They have no idea what they're 169 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: in store for. I don't think they get it over there, 170 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: so there's gonna be a lot of catching them up. 171 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: Okay, So you so you you end up going on 172 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: Paradise where you hesitant all about going where you just 173 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: kind of like all in, like, yeah, I'll take another 174 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: shot at this. 175 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I was all in. Obviously, there are 176 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: things that you the unknown can be scary, and I 177 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: think for me, the only hesitancy was are there going 178 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: to be any genuine quality men there that I could 179 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: see myself actually binding romance with? And if not, then no, 180 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to go do that. That sounds like 181 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: my version of hell, to be honest, like stuck with 182 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: nothing around you, in no way to escape, and all 183 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: you have to do is talk to guys you're not 184 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: interested in. No, I go to a bar on a 185 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: Friday night if I wanted to do that. So I 186 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: wanted to know who's going to be there. But obviously 187 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: that's like part of the lore, and they keep that 188 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: a surprise. And once I realized, you know, you're going 189 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: to go in blind and I just have to fully hope, 190 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: And I think I did I just went in with 191 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: really high expectations and I was optimistic that there would 192 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: be someone for me there. So once I got my 193 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: head wrapped around that, and I was kind of approaching 194 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: it from that mindset, it was like, what do I 195 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: have to lose, Like, go have fun on the beach, 196 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 2: make some friend, and hopefully make out with some guys 197 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: and find romance. Best case scenario. 198 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I mean I wouldn't make out with guys, 199 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: but like I agree with everything else. 200 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: But everything else. 201 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, were you? Were there any guys like on your list? 202 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: Did you have a list of guys that you were 203 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: potentially interested in? 204 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: Yes, I've watched the Bachelor franchise, but not all of it, 205 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: so I kind of wanted to keep it that way. 206 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 2: They have recommended going back and watching things, but as 207 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: somebody who's been on the show, I know that what 208 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: you are shown isn't always what the person is like 209 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: on the inside, and so I didn't want to really 210 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: go in with preconceived notions and expectations of these men. 211 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 2: Dale Moss and Pilot Pete. Pilot Pete since has a girlfriend, 212 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: and yeah. 213 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 3: So Dale was on your list? Yeah, that was a 214 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: long shot. 215 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: I mean I don't think anyone really expected to see 216 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 4: him down there, but he is. He's in paradise. You 217 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 4: walk in, does he immediately catch your eye? Does someone 218 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 4: else catch your eye? What is your initial reaction? 219 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, So when I came in the way they had 220 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: arranged it was there was this Birds of Paradise challenge 221 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 2: where all the guys dressed up in these crazy costumes 222 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: and feathers and then came out doing like mating calls 223 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: and dances. So the women were all sat outside waiting 224 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: for the men to come out one by one, and 225 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: I actually entered with just the group of women. So 226 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: at first that's all I knew who. I knew the 227 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: women who were going to be there, but I didn't 228 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: know what guys were there. 229 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: And then you kind of had like a fashion show 230 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: of men. 231 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: Yes, as they were coming out like one by one, 232 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: that was my real time learning who was there for 233 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: the first time, which was really exciting and very fun 234 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 2: way to be brought into the whole experience. But yes, 235 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: so that's when the I saw Dale for the first time, 236 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 2: and I was surprised. I don't think. I don't think 237 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: when he walked out, I like registered, Oh, that's Dale. 238 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: He was on my list of people I'd be interested in. 239 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: It was just this hot body with like a red 240 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: feathered dress on, and I was wearing red feather so 241 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: all the couple seemed to be matching that night, and 242 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, okay, is this like a cue 243 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: that this person somebody I should be like coupling up 244 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 2: with or like looking at. And then we did have 245 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: a really good conversation, like right away. We hit it 246 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 2: off immediately, and we had really good chemistry. So I 247 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: did notice him. He was definitely like one of the 248 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: first people I would say I was excited to see there. 249 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I mean it comes across that way as 250 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: if you were watching it, it seems like you guys 251 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: do have really good chemistry. It seems like you're both 252 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: interested in each other. You seem to like Sean, but 253 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: it seems like you are definitely more interested in dal Well. 254 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: And I mean, your first impression of Sean was him 255 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 4: making it with April, so maybe you need a little 256 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 4: more time to get to know him. 257 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: That was like the Actually that was the only redeeming 258 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: thing of Sean that night. I thought that was hilarious 259 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 2: that he did that. But we did have a conversation 260 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: right after, and everybody was drinking and having fun, and 261 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: I told Sean this our first conversation. He was just 262 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 2: kind of like tipsy and being silly, and like, I 263 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: don't think he remembers a lot of it. And from 264 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: that conversation, yeah, I was like a little bit, you know, 265 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: skeptical of him. So and on top of that, like 266 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: I would say, Dale is just physically my type. Like 267 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: I've dated tons of different looking people, but if I 268 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: had to say I have a type, it would be 269 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: like tall, dark, handsome, So he fits that. Bill Sean 270 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 2: is definitely a complete replica of my ex boyfriend, which 271 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 2: also scared me. And that's something I conveyed to Sean 272 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: early on, and like I was pretty open about that. 273 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: So that was also why I think I was a 274 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: little bit like trepidacious with the Shawn encounter at first. 275 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: So why choose Sean on a date over Dale? 276 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: So that morning I woke up and I was really torn. 277 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: I had no idea who I was going to choose 278 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 2: because there was a Row ceremony that evening, so it 279 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: wasn't just take somebody on a first date. It was 280 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 2: also now there's a rose ceremony. 281 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, let me just break this now real quick. 282 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: So you get in at night during a challenge where 283 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: everyone's dressed like a bird, and then and being. 284 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: Silly and goofy and like we're all lighthearted. The guys 285 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: and the girls were both like locked down before that 286 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: in a thunderstorm, so we were drinking in the hotel rooms. 287 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 2: It was just like a very lighthearted night, and everybody 288 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: was kind of like their alter ego. So I almost 289 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: came in and met everybody's crazy night out alter ego. 290 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: Woke up the next morning and then had to decide 291 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: who was going on. 292 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: A date with and then that night is a row ceremony, yes, okay, yes, 293 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: And when you're on. 294 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 2: A date, you're gone all day. So it's like I 295 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: would literally be going into a row ceremony hoping that 296 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 2: whoever I took on the date is going to give 297 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: me a rose. And in my head, Sean was way 298 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: more open and had a rose to give, and the 299 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: way I viewed it was Dale was much less likely 300 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: to give me a rose, saying that he's been with 301 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: Kat for like ten days at this point, and in 302 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: my head, like, I don't think anybody who's a good 303 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: person would ditch somebody for ten days over somebody who 304 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: walked in for one day, so that is kind of 305 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: like the right thing for him to do. So that 306 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: was the first thing that kind of made my decision 307 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 2: to take Sean on the date, and then the second 308 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: one was the two conversations I had that morning. I 309 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: pulled Dale and Sean separately and talked to them for 310 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: a little bit before giving out that day card, and 311 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: both conversations were great. In Dale's conversation, something that stood 312 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: out to me was he had expressed his interest in 313 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 2: going on the date with me, but encouraged me that 314 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: if I don't pick him, it's not going to change 315 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: us getting to know each other. It's not going to 316 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: stop him from wanting to get to know me and 317 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: continue like building something. So it kind of seemed like 318 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: a no brainer decision. I can keep getting to know 319 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: someone who I'm physically attracted to but don't know enough 320 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: about his personality, and stick around to guarantee that I 321 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: can get to know everybody a lot more. 322 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, no brainer, Like. 323 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, And the reality is, like the show is about 324 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 4: finding love, but there is a little strategy involved to 325 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 4: get to the point. 326 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: Of the opportunity of exactly. Yeah, because to be able 327 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: to have that time and being the last one out 328 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: so I could lie and be like I was just 329 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: I wanted to get to know Sean Moore. That was 330 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: part of it, one hundred percent. I wanted to get 331 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: to know either of those guys that I took on 332 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: the date. I was interested in getting to know more 333 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: at that point. But why wouldn't I pick the person 334 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: who's going to give me a good shot at sticking 335 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: around that night? 336 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, the last thing you want to do is go 337 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 4: on the date with Dale. Maybe the connection is not 338 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 4: really there. You He ends up giving his rose to Cat, 339 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 4: as you probably expected he would, even if the date 340 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 4: went great exact, then you're out of there twenty four 341 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 4: hours in without getting to now explore Sean. 342 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: Right, explore Sean. Do you think if you had zero 343 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: interest in Sean you would have still made that decision? 344 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 2: No? Okay, no, because it was like I was very 345 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: split that morning waking up, and I really did consider 346 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: giving it to Dale because of you know what I said, Like, 347 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: there's also no point in being there if you don't 348 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: think that you have a connection with someone. So if 349 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: I didn't see anything coming out of a relationship with 350 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: Sean and that leading somewhere. Then No, I definitely would 351 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: have just picked Dale and been like, sh who cares. 352 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: I don't care if I go home and don't get 353 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: the rose because I don't want to be here interested 354 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: in any of the other guys. 355 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: How did the day go a Sean? 356 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: It was good. It was really intense, which is another 357 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: reason I'm glad I picked him. In retrospect, they had 358 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: us explore the five senses through like taste, touch, sound, 359 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: and we had these little cards that prompted each stage, 360 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 2: and they were very intimate. Just all of them were like, 361 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: you know, rub this honey here and get the ice 362 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: cube in a place that you're going to get goosebumps. 363 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: So I couldn't imagine. That's not what I imagine for 364 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: any first date, but for it to be with Sean, 365 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: who I did feel really comfortable with and we did 366 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: have like the friend foundation there. I was much more 367 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: comfortable in that situation than had I picked Dale or 368 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: anybody else for that matter, just basically sitting down and 369 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: then just like making out and rubbing honey and licking 370 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 2: chocolate off each other's body parts. 371 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: So, after your date with Sean, is the romantic connection 372 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:45,239 Speaker 1: growing or are you still like, Ah, I like this 373 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: guy more of a friend. Want to see what happens 374 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: with Dale. 375 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 2: After the date, I was definitely felt more interested in 376 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: Sean than I was at first, because it was so 377 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: easy and natural, and I just felt very comfortable around him. 378 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: We had so much in common. We really connected on 379 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: like a deep family level, and we opened up about 380 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: our past and our upbringings and things we're looking for 381 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: in our future and our future partners, and a lot 382 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 2: of those things aligned. So that made me feel like 383 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: I made the right decision because I picked somebody who 384 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: at the core is looking for the same things that 385 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 2: I essentially am over just looks, which in the past 386 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: I have gone from, you know, just the good looking guy, 387 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 2: and it lets you down because That's not what I'm 388 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 2: looking for. At the end of the day, I need, 389 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 2: like so much more than just that. 390 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 4: As a viewer, it seems like there is this spark 391 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 4: and this mutual interest between you and Dale, but then 392 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,239 Speaker 4: moving into this latest episode, we don't really see it 393 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 4: go any further what happened there. 394 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: So it was really I feel like that it was 395 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: just kind of it was always going to be that way, 396 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: just because the timing of when I came in that 397 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: after that really ceremony that was when it was announced 398 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: Jesse announced that it's no longer a dating show. It's 399 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: now going to be a competition show, and the couple 400 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: that wins is going to be the couple that gets 401 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 2: through these tests and relationship challenges and basically like the 402 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 2: best couple together at this point. So in my head, 403 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 2: I'm like one that completely gets rid of the whole 404 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 2: like dating around part of the show, which I was 405 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: deprived of because of the time I came in, Like 406 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 2: I didn't get that opportunity to do that. 407 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: So you're basically you just you just walked onto a 408 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: challenge show basically. 409 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 2: And I picked my partner, and at this point, like 410 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: it would be it's lucrative for all of us and 411 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 2: couples to spend our time and focus on getting to 412 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: know the person we're with, especially me because I just 413 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 2: got there and everybody else's ten days advantage knowing these people, 414 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: and like I come in, none of the guys, like 415 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 2: at first, hardly any of the guys even came up 416 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: and like introduce themselves to me, which I thought was like, 417 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: even that was strange, and I get it. It's just 418 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 2: like a bizarre situation because people are in couples and 419 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: whatnot and they don't want to give anybody like nerves 420 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: or fear that they're interested in another person who walks in. 421 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: But at the same time, it was yeah, very like 422 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: intimidating to me going into now a competition and I 423 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 2: feel like I don't hardly know any of these people. 424 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 2: They're not really trying to talk to me or make 425 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 2: a connection because they have their established connections. And yeah, 426 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: I've also have been told like it's gonna be kind 427 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: of taboo to I would have continued to pursue Dale 428 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 2: and like get to know him more. And I think, 429 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 2: to answer your question in short, because of the way 430 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 2: the show turned into a competition at that point, I 431 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 2: don't think it was ever going to progress because both 432 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: Dale and I at that were kind of everybody going 433 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: to their partners. 434 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're on a unfortunately a just a a different 435 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: show because I would say, like majority of past seasons, 436 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: like even at this point in the show, no one's 437 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: really locked lockdown exactly. There was more and even being 438 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: just like the location of Mexico and on the beach, 439 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: it just had more of like an openness to mingle 440 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: and just like hang out as a group. Don't you think. 441 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: That's exactly how I felt? And I was really you know, 442 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: going back to I was kind of all in when 443 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: I got the call to come to Paradise. I was 444 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: really excited at that and to get to know everyone. 445 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: Some of the best the best thing that came from 446 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: my season on Grants was all the women and like 447 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: those relationships that I made, and that's that's just it's 448 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: meant so much to me and like will be friends forever. 449 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: So in my head, I'm like, I'm going to meet 450 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: some really incredible people that I share this cool experience with. 451 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 2: And I did, and I don't take that back, but 452 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: it was a very different experience than I thought it 453 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: would be, like going on a dationally show versus a 454 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: dating show. And I do think that had I come 455 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 2: in day one or day two like earlier days, I 456 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: do think that I, like Dayla and I probably would 457 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: have ended up being coupled up. I think we did 458 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: have a lot more in common than him and Kat 459 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: did in some ways. 460 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: Interesting, do you so when when Jesse comes down and 461 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: essentially switches the structure of the show. Are you and 462 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: Sean now more focused on like, all right, let's let's 463 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: try to win a post to like let's get to 464 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: know each other and see if we want a date 465 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: in the real world. 466 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 2: I think Sean and I were in a really good 467 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: position because we were getting to know each other, and 468 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 2: this was just like a way to expedite that, right 469 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: because it was like we had to get to know 470 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 2: each other even quicker now, and we had to do 471 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: like play catch up on the time that we didn't 472 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 2: have together that other people did. And there also was 473 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 2: kind of like a lightness to it, like we didn't 474 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 2: feel pressure at all because everybody else had ten days 475 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: to like know their couple. We just met each other, 476 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: so we're not really expected to know each other to 477 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: the same degree and level as everybody else. But because 478 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 2: we had so much in common and like our core 479 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: values were like very similar, I think we both felt 480 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 2: pretty good that we knew enough about each other to 481 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: be able to, like, you know, make educated guesses on 482 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 2: certain things, leading into some of the challenges where you 483 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 2: know you had to know your partner. I think if 484 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 2: you know enough about someone, you can kind of infer or, 485 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: like guess what their answer would be to some things. 486 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 2: So I think we felt pretty strong to say. We 487 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: had really short amount of time together, and I don't 488 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: think we were thinking of the money, because truly, neither 489 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 2: of us thought that we were going to be the 490 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: strongest couple at the end, Like that was such a 491 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: you know, one in a million kind of thing for 492 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 2: it to be us, So we weren't expecting that. We 493 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: just it was fun. It made getting to know each 494 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 2: other even more fun because it had kind of like 495 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: a reason to have those conversations, and it was a 496 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: super organic way of you know, asking how many kids 497 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: do you want? That's just not something you would bring 498 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: up out of the blue randomly, but when you're playing 499 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 2: these games and you need to know certain things about someone, Yeah, 500 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: it just really expedited that whole honeymoon getting to know 501 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 2: each other. 502 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: VASE was as a group, was there like a majority 503 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: of people like, oh, I think I think Andrew and 504 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: Alex are the strongest couple right now, Like, was there 505 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: any couple that was kind of like fared amongst the 506 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: others for the competition? 507 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 2: Yes, Jess and Spencer were always the strongest couple. I 508 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: think for everyone, just because they coupled up so early, 509 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 2: they were always connected by the hip, and so I 510 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: would say those two were the strongest couple. 511 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: That makes sense. 512 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 4: We see that Jeremy and Bailey win the challenge, and 513 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 4: the advantage is that they get to send a couple 514 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 4: home at the Rose ceremony. Were you surprised that they 515 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 4: chose Gary and Leslie and why do you think they 516 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 4: made that choice? 517 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 2: No, I wasn't surprised. So that was such a tough 518 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 2: Rose ceremony because we knew it was going to be 519 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: a Golden going home, or at least I think we 520 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: all assumed it was. At that point. A lot of 521 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: the Goldens who were there and who had been coupled 522 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: up had been very vocal about the fact that it's 523 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: platonic relationships. They've had their great love or you know, 524 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 2: they like this guy as a friend, but now they're 525 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 2: just kind of there for the experience, and they're really 526 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: open about that. So I think all of the younger 527 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 2: generation couples were thinking based on this being paradise and 528 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: looking for a connection and love. I would assume we're 529 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 2: going to prioritize like the real couples that are trying 530 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 2: for that and sends a Golden's home. And also all 531 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: of the Goldens were so they kind of knew that 532 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 2: they should be going home, like you know, they're saying like, 533 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 2: oh yeah, like we aren't romantic or you guys are 534 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: going to have a great time, but like we're really 535 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 2: enjoying our time just while we're here. So I expected 536 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 2: a Golden to go home. I didn't know it was 537 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: going to be Gary and Leslie. But after Gary's crazy 538 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: bet zoo he did. 539 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 3: Why do you think he did that? 540 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: I think Gary gets caught up in like the performance 541 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: and some of the showmanship, and I think he was 542 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: having fun and he was, you know, doing a little 543 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 2: bit of like a bit, and it probably wasn't even 544 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 2: I don't even know if it registered through his head 545 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: the consequences of making that bet. And I don't know 546 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: if he did the math in his head. You could 547 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 2: literally just throw a chep. You could just guess the 548 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: wrong answer and still be safe. So I don't know 549 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: why he did it, but you know, if you're going 550 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: to be irresponsible, you're making that decision not just for 551 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: you but for your couple now, because that's how we're 552 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: playing this game, and unfortunately you made like a really 553 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: risky move and it didn't pay off. And I think 554 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: that's ultimately why it was Gary who got sent home 555 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: that way. 556 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly what I said. 557 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 3: Exactly what you said. 558 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 4: I think that it seems like genius is I think 559 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 4: that it seems like Gary and Leslie as much as 560 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 4: they were exploring a romantic connection. I think, you know, 561 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 4: Gary's mistake definitely put them in jeopardy, and then on 562 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 4: top of that, it did seem like Faith and Kim 563 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 4: had a stronger romantic connection. So if you plays are 564 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 4: kind of making these decisions based off that, it would 565 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 4: make sense that they would go with Leslie and Gary exactly. 566 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: And I mean that was Bailey's ultimately decision to make, 567 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: so I know that was probably really hard for her, 568 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: and I don't think it was an easy decision. I'm 569 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: not sure if Jeremy had anything to say about it, 570 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 2: or if he encouraged her one way or the other, 571 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: But that was not easy to send any of the 572 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: Goldens home. I can't imagine, especially for somebody who's such 573 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: a sweetheart like Bailey has such a sweet and a 574 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: sense to her, and she really does care about people. 575 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 2: So that was really hard. That was a really hard 576 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: road ceremony. 577 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, with what has been aired of the show thus far, 578 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: is there anything that has shocked you from what you're 579 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: seeing within. 580 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: Like the couples, Yeah, a lot. 581 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: Anything stand out within the Jeremy and Bailey stuff. 582 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 4: You want to just say it because we're talking about Bailey. 583 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: So that surprised me. So here's what happened. The boys 584 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: had a really good strong group and camaraderie, and they 585 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 2: were going back to their rooms and like before Row 586 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: ceremonies and cocktail parties and talking and so you know, 587 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: the Jeremy thing. I'm sure he brought up to the 588 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 2: guys and they were all aware of it. So when 589 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: I did hear about the Susi thing through the telephone, 590 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that it had gone ten days without 591 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: anybody bringing it up. I think that you are just 592 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: as guilty if you know something and you stay quiet, 593 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: and you choose to stay quiet, But I think you're 594 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: just as complicit and like the guilty. I think what's 595 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: hard is I was surprised. I didn't realize how many 596 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: times Jeremy like doubled down and said that like I 597 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: don't want to win with Bailey. I want to call 598 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: Susie back, where Susie like he was a broken record, 599 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: and he said it so many times now I thought 600 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: it when I heard it, I thought it was just 601 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: one passing phone call to call her to come back, 602 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: which was like not a big deal at all, Like 603 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: I didn't think Bailey would even care to hear that. 604 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 2: But now knowing how involved it is and how much 605 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: he said it, I think that's probably what pushed Brian, 606 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: because he's hearing it in the guy's room like every night, 607 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: and I'm sure Jeremy brought it up more than once, 608 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: which is probably why he felt like so compelled to 609 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 2: say something like what else have you been hiding in 610 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: line to me? Like I've I felt really bad for her, 611 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 2: and I felt bad that I wasn't there because had 612 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: I been there, like there was no way that would 613 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: have got to day ten without her knowing that as my. 614 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: Girlfriend playing Devil's advocate here a little bit just for fun. 615 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: Is there any bit of grace for Jeremy talking about 616 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: this amongst the guys in his room, where it's more 617 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: like he's venting, venting, and not really one hundred meaning it. 618 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: Like I like the him calling Susie. That's like, you know, 619 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: that's just like, well you did that, Yeah, that you happened. 620 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: But is there any bit of that or is it 621 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: just kind of like. 622 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 4: I think as a girl, it gets complicated when everyone 623 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 4: else knows. 624 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 3: It's not like he was in a. 625 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 4: Private setting venting to a friend and like it got 626 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 4: it got out and he was like, look, I was 627 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 4: truly just burning off some steam. Like I think it's 628 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 4: like you're micd up, you're on camera. It's getting around 629 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 4: the beach, and for really to be the last to know, 630 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: like the impact is just going to be so much 631 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 4: more of a gut punch. 632 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: I don't think that's a good excuse because at that point, 633 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: as a friend, you could just feel like, hey, you're 634 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 2: my friend, but I'm going to do the right thing 635 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: and this is the right thing and you know that. 636 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: Let's I'll help you out with it. We can both 637 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: do like whatever. But staying quiet I just don't think's fair. 638 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: And I think the other part that's hard. Yeah, everybody knowing, 639 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 2: but now he's saying this and it's like ten twelve 640 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: days later, like however many days into it, I think 641 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: as a woman, I would be feeling to have uncertainties 642 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: I think are it's normal. But then after a certain 643 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: amount of days and when you're being told something else, 644 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 2: and then behind your back you're being questioned like if 645 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: you're compatible, or if he likes you, or if he 646 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: wants whatever, I think that part would be hard for me. 647 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know who. 648 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 4: I would have loved to see Zoe. 649 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 3: Throw her back in there. 650 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Zoey. 651 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 3: Zoe would not have let this get so far. Zoe 652 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 3: would have been all over it. 653 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: Zoe would have been all over it. But that's like, 654 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 2: that's what I respect about her. And like, also, we're 655 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: all adults. Like, we're all adults. It's just not that deep. 656 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: I don't I also don't understand when we're on a 657 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: show with cameras, mics, this is all gonna come out, 658 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 2: you guys know, like it's all gonna come out. So 659 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: why wouldn't you just be honest about the things you're 660 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: saying and doing and get ahead of it and own 661 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: it like it. That's the to me, a no brainer 662 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 2: and win win for everyone involved. 663 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, anything else that surprised you before we wrap up? 664 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: I was surprised. I had no idea idea about Jill, 665 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: like being upset the night that she left, the night 666 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: I came in, like, I had no idea until she 667 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: came up and gave me a goodbye saying she was 668 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 2: like leaving, that she was even thinking about going, So 669 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: that was a surprise. I didn't know Kat was mad 670 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 2: at Dale the night that we started talking. I had 671 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 2: no idea there was that drama going on. I had 672 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: no idea Jonathan was pursuing Kat so much behind closed 673 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: doors that was like so sneaky, And did not know 674 00:33:54,680 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: that was happening between any of them and. 675 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 4: We else, I know, did any of the Parisa and 676 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 4: Brian Steff surprise you. 677 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: No, Well, yeah, and your roommates with Prisa, So would 678 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: makes sense? That would that makes sense? 679 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? I just Brian and Prisa are both such strong, 680 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 2: like unique personalities, and you know, sometimes they say opposites attract, 681 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: and I think they were kind of polarizing forces. But 682 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 2: it worked for them, and because of that, there was 683 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: just a lot of theatrics that came with the territory 684 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 2: and it was I love I love being around them 685 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 2: and watching them, like I think they're hilarious. 686 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: Nice. Well, thank you so much. For coming on the 687 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: podcast and taking the time. I'm sure this is the last, 688 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: well it might be the last time you're on this podcast, 689 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 1: but we're going to see more of you the rest 690 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: of the season. 691 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you so much for having me. This 692 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: was fun and I can't believe how much of a weird, 693 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 2: insanely similar background you have. 694 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 4: I know that was actually the coolest part of this 695 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 4: podcast from yes, because I can't say I've ever met 696 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 4: someone with the same ethic background as me. 697 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: Me either, And you get it now, Like I feel 698 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 2: like I'm with a kindred spirit who, like I don't 699 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 2: even have to speak. You just understand. You understand, I 700 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 2: get it. 701 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 3: I get it girl. 702 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: You guys are best friends. Okay. And to all our listeners, 703 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: especially the ones that are half Indian, half white, thank 704 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: you so much. Thank you so much for tuning in 705 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: the Battery Happy Hour. Make sure you download and subscribe 706 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: to the podcast. 707 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, keep tuning in to Bachelor in Paradise every single 708 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 3: week and we will have new and exclusive interviews for 709 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 3: you as well. Thanks for listening. Bye.