1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: This is what happens with the fourth turning it's fifth generation. 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: Work there. 3 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 3: On a commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 3: intelligence veteran, This. 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Is Human Events with your host Jack Pisobic christ Is. 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 4: Four people are dead, including a New York City police officer, 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 4: after a gunman opened fire inside a Manhattan office building. 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 4: A fifth person is in critical condition. Police have identified 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 4: the shooter as twenty seven year old Shane Tamura from 10 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 4: Las Vegas. Surveillance footage shows him walking toward the building, 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 4: look wearing body armour, sunglasses, and carrying a high powered 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 4: M four rifle. The gunman opened fire inside the lobby 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 4: of three forty five Park Avenue, home to the NFL headquarters, 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 4: Blackstone and other major firms. 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: New data shows Americans confidence in the economy may be 16 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: better than it was last month. 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: Take a look at this. The new Comer confidence index 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: is up two points. 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 3: Coca Cola made with American cane sugar instead of high 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 3: fructose corn syrup coming soon. 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: We give people more choice and more whites to enjoy 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: the Coca Cola brand. 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: And enjoying this choice, the country's highest profile cola connoisseur, 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: President Trump, who famously has a diet coke button on 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: his desk in the Oval office. 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 5: We're very worried about the humanitarian problem guys Gaza. 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 6: We see a lot of starving. 28 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: Children when were to make sure they get food. So 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: we got to get food to the neediest people. 30 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 4: We've also got to make sure that Hamas gets the 31 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 4: hell out of Gaza and lets the food come into 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 4: that terrible, terrible situation I'm. 33 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 7: Looking for from getting people in bed right now, it's 34 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 7: the number one position because you have a lot of 35 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 7: shoving people, you get people. But you know the United 36 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 7: case recently just a couple. 37 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 6: Of weeks to know, we gave sixty million dollars. 38 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 7: To will be helping with the food, and we have 39 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 7: a lot of access to food. We got a lot 40 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 7: of food ourselves and we're going to bring it over there. 41 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 7: We're also going to make sure that they don't have 42 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 7: barriers stopping people. 43 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 6: You know, you've seen the areas where. 44 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 7: They actually have food and the people are screaming for 45 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 7: the food in there. They're thirty five forty yards away 46 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 7: and they won't let them because they have lines that 47 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 7: are set up and whether they're set up by Hamas 48 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 7: or whoever. But they're very strict lines. So we have 49 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 7: to get rid of those lines. We can save a 50 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 7: lot of people. I mean, some of those kids. That's 51 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 7: real starvation stuff. I see it, and you can't fake that. 52 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 7: So we're going to be even more all. 53 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: Right, ladies, John and welcome on board today's edition of 54 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: Human Events Daily here live on Real America's Voice. Today 55 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: is July twenty ninth, twenty twenty five, Anno Dominie. President 56 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: Trump wheels up from his whirlwind trip to Scotland in 57 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: the United Kingdom. He just took a spress spray on 58 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: Air Force one. We're going to be monitoring that. We're 59 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: going to get audio. If anything significant comes out, we're 60 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: going to bring that to you directly. A lot of 61 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: news came out of the trip. Of course, sitting down 62 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: with Kiir Starmer really kind of you. You can see 63 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: a jovial relationship between the two of them, but at 64 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 2: the same time he's making a lot of points. He 65 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: did bring up the question of freedom of speech, which 66 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: the UK absolutely does not have currently, certainly does not 67 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 2: have at all. And of course when President Trump landed, 68 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: I think the most significant thing that President Trump said 69 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: during his entire trip to the UK is that the 70 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: invasion of Europe must be stopped. It is so simple, 71 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: it is so obvious. The fact that mainstream media isn't 72 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: even pressing on it. You don't even see people in 73 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: conservative media were talking about this. He called what's happening 74 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: in Europe and invasion that must be stopped. This is 75 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: absolutely correct. He's also mentioned remigration. Remigration is a process 76 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: that absolutely needs to begin as well. Again, Europeans must 77 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: be able to have their own control of their actual countries. 78 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: Americans must be able to have control of our country. 79 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: It's really as simple as that. And then you have 80 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: a president like Trump who comes out and just says it, 81 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: and of course nobody pays any attention to it. Also, 82 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 2: the trade deal with the EU fantastic work there, and 83 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: everybody I think is completely silenced, the critics. 84 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: The Pannicans about the tariffs. 85 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm a few arguments that I got into about that 86 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: one with people. 87 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: They are completely silent. 88 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: Now because oh look, this talk market has not crashed, 89 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 2: and I'm sorry if you're in Vidia stock was hit, 90 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: but actually everyone else is just doing much much fine, 91 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: doing perfectly fine. But then there was the subject yesterday 92 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: that came up of Israel and the conflict in Gaza, 93 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: the Gaza Strip, as President Trump reminds us and President 94 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: Trump breaking with bb Nut and Yahoo, Jadie Van's coming 95 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: out as well. So then Yahoo said and has been 96 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: saying over and over and over that there's no starvation 97 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: in Gaza. And yet every single day on social media 98 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: and mainstream media, there are a slew of images that 99 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: come out, images every single day about what's happening in 100 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: particularly it seems to be in these camps and these 101 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: refugee camps that were set up early on Human Events 102 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 2: Daily covered this in great detail when the war began, 103 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: talking about how displacement camps were set up so that 104 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: military operations by the IDF could take place within the 105 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 2: Strip itself, going after Hamas. It is these refuge conditions 106 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: and these displacement camps that have come under fire, and 107 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: where the starvation conditions now, as President Trump has said, 108 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: these are exhibited, and the question of aid and food. 109 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: Here's what it all comes down to, folks. 110 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: You don't have to be pro Israel or pro Hamas 111 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: to be pro humanity, Okay, you don't have to come 112 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: in and say all of this and all of that. 113 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: But what you do want to be able to say 114 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: is it's war. The war is what's driving all of this. 115 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: That's what's clear here. And the best way to end 116 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: all of this is to get an endpoint for that war, 117 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: a ceasefire, and then some way of brokering a piece 118 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: deal so that the civilians can get to help you. 119 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: This is the same problem that America ran into in 120 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 2: the Global War on Terror. They completely ignored the issues 121 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: with the populace while focusing on, oh, we have to 122 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: have mission accomplished in George W. 123 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: Bush style policies. And you look what's happening now. 124 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: America support from farm wors has created created America's support, 125 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: and American support for Israel has now created And in fact, 126 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: there's a slight there's only a slight majority support for 127 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: Trump's handling of the Israel Amas conflict right now, and 128 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: with gen Z. 129 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: It is absolutely crashing. That's the key here. 130 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 2: And President Trump and Jdvance for calling it out, get 131 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: to the end, do the right thing for the people, 132 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: get rid of the terrorists and let people live in peace. 133 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 6: You're right back. 134 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 7: Thing will stand in our way, and our golden age 135 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 7: has just begun. 136 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: This human Events with Jack sobet. 137 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: Now it's time for everyone to understand what America First 138 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: truly means. 139 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 8: Welcome to the Second American Revolution, all. 140 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: Right, Jack Pasovic back live here, Human Events Daily, Washington, DC. 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Right, very excited. 168 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: Next to have on huge news on the Jeffrey Epstein, 169 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: Galaine Maxwell front and here to help us break it 170 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: all down is the great Mike Bens from the Foundation 171 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: of Freedom Online. 172 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: Bence, how are you? 173 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 6: How you doing? 174 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: Great? 175 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 6: How you doing? 176 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: I love that we both got the green shirt memo today. 177 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 2: So the latest and this is just as we go. 178 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: To air, there it is there, it is. 179 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 2: It's the Zelenski brothers here on Human Events Daily. That 180 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 2: that so Glaine Maxwell has agreed to testify before Congress. 181 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: Do we know what the ins and outs of that 182 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 2: look like? How is that going to play in with 183 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 2: Todd Blanche I've got a meeting that I'm taking that 184 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 2: I'm going to be taking part in tomorrow to get 185 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: some more information regarding the DOJ side of it. 186 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: What are you hearing The latest. 187 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 5: Is, well, we know that Glaine was given limited immunity 188 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 5: to give up about one hundred names to the DOJ, 189 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 5: and this is being touted as a kind of client 190 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 5: list substitute, at least in messaging. This appears to be 191 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 5: a kind of backdoor way to try to get at 192 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 5: the spider web of contacts that Epstein had. You know, 193 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 5: it's one of these stink bombs, the Kallaine Maxwell testimony. 194 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 5: Ever since, I think the Daily Mail broke about two 195 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 5: weeks ago that Klaine wanted to testify to Congress but 196 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 5: that Republicans were blocking it. I think that the force 197 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 5: of Maga fury about this issue has made it politically 198 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 5: difficult to say no to Mike Johnson, the Speaker came 199 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 5: out and quickly said that Republicans were not blocking it, 200 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 5: and now there appears to be Ford motion on it. 201 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 5: Moving forward. We see Democrats who were trying to kind 202 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 5: of take this issue and use it as a kind 203 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 5: of wedge of the Trump White House against the base. 204 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 5: We saw Jamie Raskin and the like trying to trying 205 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 5: to pick this up as a football, and now it 206 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 5: looks like the Maxwell testimony in front of Congress will 207 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 5: likely use any of that energy, although there are lingering 208 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 5: questions about why it is happening now, of course, whether 209 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 5: or not Glaine may be getting a pardon, and whether 210 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 5: or not there may be some jerry mandering of the 211 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 5: story that Glaine tells in order to try to make 212 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 5: her own case for a pardon stronger. That is, will 213 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 5: she shield certain aspects of Trump world from the story 214 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 5: she tells, or will it really be the whole truth 215 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 5: and nothing but the truth? 216 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: We'll see and of course we're now seeing. 217 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: So she's made her offer, and that's the one people 218 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: understand what the latest is on this. 219 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: This is just as of about fifty two minutes ago. 220 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: That so Gallaine Maxwell, through her lawyers, has put forward 221 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: her potential offer. And of course this is a a 222 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: Maxwell maximalism, if you will, list of demands. So she 223 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: wants to grant a formal immunity for anything she testifies 224 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: to under Congress, says the interview cannot happen at the 225 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: correctional facility where she's serving her sentence, Oh, she wants 226 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: to come to Capitol Hill. 227 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: Of course she wants to. 228 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: They're asking to prepare adequately for any congressional deposition, and 229 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 2: to ensure accuracy, we would require the committee's questions in advance, 230 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: and is saying that the interview could only be scheduled 231 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: after the resolution of her Supreme Court petition, where of 232 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: course she's filed for an appeal. So they're making a 233 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: splashy headline. But I'm not getting the impression that with 234 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: demands like this, that this is something they're rushing into. 235 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, me neither. 236 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 5: I think that everyone is on every side of the 237 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 5: political aisle is a little afraid of what she has 238 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 5: to say if she's given a total, unfettered podium to 239 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 5: say it. There's, you know, again the question of the 240 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 5: unreliable narrator here, given that the sort of damocles hangs 241 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 5: over her head in terms of you know, what is 242 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 5: effectively a kind of life in prison, whether or not 243 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 5: she will would be telling an honest story or giving 244 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 5: honest answers even under immunity. As I said, you know, 245 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,119 Speaker 5: there's there's a clear goal I think by all parties 246 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 5: involved in this. 247 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 6: For Maxwell, it's. 248 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 5: To do a favor in exchange for a potential pardon 249 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,239 Speaker 5: or commuting of the sentence. For Republicans, it's to satiate 250 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 5: the base and shield I think the Republicans side of 251 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 5: the Epstein story, and for Democrats it's too. It's to 252 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 5: try to find the dirt on Trump world to use 253 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 5: that for the twenty twenty six midterms. 254 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: And of course that's the goal. But at the same time, 255 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: for a situation that's been litigated and re litigated so 256 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: many times, I just have to say that I still 257 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: don't and I've said this throughout the entire you know, carnival, 258 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: that this has turned into, and that I don't think 259 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: that if if there was anything on Trump, they would have. 260 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: Put it out already. It would have been out, we 261 00:13:58,960 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: would have had years ago. 262 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: They wouldn't have had to make up with all this 263 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: Russia stuff, that wouldn't have had to go to such 264 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: great lengths to try to quote unquote get him on 265 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: something if they had an easy, you know, political kill 266 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: shot or political headshot, like you could over something with Epstein. 267 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: And you even hear President Trump being I think a 268 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: little bit more cavalier about talking about this now when 269 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: he says Yes, there was an island. Yes, Larry Summers 270 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: from Harvard did go to the island. You should look 271 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 2: into him. He's brought up other names. He says, there's 272 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: a list. I'd love to get that list, mister President, 273 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: and all the information on that island, read Hoffman, so 274 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: many others. Because Ben's the work that you've done, The 275 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: work that we've done has really pushed this from a 276 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: story that I think was very This has been very 277 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: grassroots driven all the way forward to now where you've 278 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: got the President of the United States on overseas trips 279 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: being asked about that and in fact responding to it 280 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: at length. 281 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true. 282 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 5: You know, I always think of this as being a 283 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 5: kind of mut the assured destruction kind of button. There's 284 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 5: the sort of the weapons of mass destruction element of 285 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 5: the Epstein story, which is that if one side uses 286 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 5: it against the other, the other there's something about the 287 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 5: Epstein story that can always be used in a double 288 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 5: edged way. The fact is is, I think Bill Clinton 289 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 5: has become kind of the go to talking point for 290 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 5: the Trump administration because he evidently went to the island. 291 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 5: According to Trump twenty eight times. We know that Epstein 292 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 5: was in the White House visitor logs for the Clinton 293 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 5: White House seventeen times. We know that Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers 294 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 5: testified that Jeffrey Epstein co founded the Clinton Global Initiative. 295 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 5: We know that Jeffrey Epstein shepherded Bill Clinton around Africa 296 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 5: in two thousand and two, right when his presidency ended, 297 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 5: right when Clinton was setting up the Clinton Foundation, he 298 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 5: was being essentially air chauffeured by Jeffrey Epstein from country 299 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 5: to country. Know that being said, I do think there 300 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 5: are considerable ties of Epstein to Trump World, not so 301 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 5: much to Trump himself, although Trump is on the nineteen 302 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 5: ninety three flight logs. 303 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 6: But this was also a time when it. 304 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 5: Was thirteen years before Epstein was ever indicted the first time, 305 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 5: and so I think that there's kind of a longer 306 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 5: leash for things that far back in the distance, given 307 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 5: that Trump is also on record having kicked Epstein out 308 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 5: of his own mar A Lago club. But the fact 309 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 5: is they did travel in somewhat similar circles, from the 310 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 5: kind of roy Cone network story to the odd non 311 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 5: Koshogi Strange tie ins where Koshogi was an Epstein client 312 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 5: and then Trump ends up buying Koshogi's yacht. There's several 313 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 5: relatively high level folks around the Trump administration who have 314 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 5: their own kind of bizarre intersections with the Epstein story, 315 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 5: but they're not as direct as something like the Clinton 316 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 5: flying to the island or you know, co founding foundations 317 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 5: together and the like. But you know, I mean, the 318 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 5: fact is, as you mentioned that the case has been 319 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 5: litigated and relitigate so many times, but the nature of 320 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 5: that litigation. 321 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: Is also under secrecy and seal. 322 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 5: The Justice Department just tried to unseal grand jury evidence 323 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 5: and the court denied it. That case was run by 324 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 5: Maureen Comy, daughter of James Comy, who set up the 325 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 5: whole Russiagate affair. 326 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: The same prosecutor or bizarrely. 327 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 5: Handled or mishandled the Ditty prosecution, where you have another 328 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 5: kind of Epstein kind of adjacent storyline. So the fact is, 329 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 5: though to me, pressure really can't relent on this until 330 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 5: we have answers about Epstein's intelligence ties. It's so infuriating 331 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 5: to me. The fact is is, Pam Bondi could walk 332 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 5: next door to the Office of Public Responsibility. 333 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 6: I did it. 334 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 5: Twenty one months of investigation, we're told looking into Epstein's 335 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 5: intelligence ties. All we got out of that investigation was 336 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 5: a footnote buried on one hundred page one hundred and 337 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 5: sixty nine of a three hundred and forty eight page report, 338 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 5: footnote two forty four. And it doesn't answer anything relevant. 339 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 5: I want all of the transcripts from that. I want 340 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 5: all of the CIA Office of General Counsel. We don't 341 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 5: even know if the CIA is run a name trace 342 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 5: on Jeffrey Epstein, to know even the CIA side of 343 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 5: the story. And you know, we keep hearing, oh, we'll 344 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 5: get back to you on that, We'll get back to it. 345 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 5: It takes two weeks for the CIA to run a 346 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 5: name trace, and this has been an issue now Pam 347 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 5: Bondi's been in her chair for something like four months, 348 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 5: four or five months. So there are easy answers and 349 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 5: the fact that they're not giving them to us. 350 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 6: I'm glad to. 351 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: Say, you know what, though, we've seen the motion, we've 352 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: seen the course shift number two of Main Justice down 353 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: there in that jailhouse. 354 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. 355 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 7: You talk about influencers, these are influences and they're friends 356 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 7: and mine. 357 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 4: Jack. 358 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: Jack. 359 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 6: We got a break down. 360 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: All right, Jack, sovic back Live Human Events Daily. We're 361 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: on with Mike Bens of the Foundation for Freedom Online, 362 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: and Mike has a great suggestion here and a great 363 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: point that so many of the things that we talk about, 364 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 2: whether it be Epstein, whether it be Jay six, whether 365 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 2: it be the Boston bombing, whether it be the Oklahoma 366 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 2: City case, we keep turning up all of these instances 367 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: which seem like horrific tragedies on and our horrific tragedies, 368 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 2: all of them, all of them, including Jeffrey Epstein. What 369 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 2: was done to those victims and those young girls is 370 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 2: absolutely unconscionable. And yet it always seems that when you 371 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: scratch the surface of these things, and I could list 372 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 2: a dozen more, you find some very strange intelligence ties. So, 373 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: Mike Bens, you've really been pushing this one so hard. 374 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 2: And by the way, not just in terms of what 375 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: people speculate maybe a blackmail operation, but also financial and funding. 376 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: That's something that gets totally overlooked when people generally talk 377 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: about Epstein. 378 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 5: Well, this is the most important part of intelligence work 379 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 5: is how do you actually fund the network carrying out 380 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 5: the cover and action? How do you actually arrange for 381 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 5: that funding? How do you secretly broker it. How do 382 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 5: you launder the money to conceal the illicit origin of 383 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 5: the funds or the secret nature of the funds. And 384 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 5: this was Epstein's primary vocation and specialty above all. It 385 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 5: was taking huge, huge pools of donor money, brokering deals 386 00:20:54,040 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 5: and everything from air transport and logistics to to pharmaceutical 387 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 5: and public health to universities, and all of these have 388 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 5: these huge touch points. I mean, you know, just a 389 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 5: line item of a few strange cia parts of the 390 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 5: Epstein story, you had the fact that he started his 391 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 5: career right when Iron fell in nineteen seventy nine. 392 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 6: He's at bear Stearns. 393 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 5: He goes on to handle the Brofman family portfolio, the 394 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 5: family office effectively of the Bromman family, which is effectively 395 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 5: a you know, a very influential but quite deeply mafia 396 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 5: linked family. 397 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 2: But the Brostons eventually fund seagrooms, and interestingly enough, with 398 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 2: the Brompmans, they get involved in another sex cult scandal 399 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: years later, Yeah, the next time scandal. 400 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, that's right. 401 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: And I've fighted the victims of that and had direct 402 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 2: conversations with victims of that, and that's just a totally 403 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: crazy situation. 404 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: That it ties directly back to Epstein. 405 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 6: Right right. 406 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 5: But Epstein was you known by his own testimony in 407 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 5: nineteen eighty seventy, gave an interview and said one of 408 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 5: his top clients was Odd Non Koshogi, who was the 409 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 5: CI middleman between the US and Israel and with respect 410 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 5: to Iran Kantra. And you know if he's handling sheltering 411 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 5: assets for Odd Non Koshogi, and Odd Non Koshogi is 412 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 5: the world's most prolific arms runner and the top commission 413 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 5: agent of Lockheed Martin and Raytheon and everyone else. And 414 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 5: the whole affair rides on this guy and his money's 415 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 5: being handled by Jeffrey Epstein. That's a pretty big node 416 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 5: for the CIA to have to know about, given that 417 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 5: that's the lynchpin of their operation. And then what's used 418 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 5: in Iran contra for for smuggling the drugs and guns 419 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 5: and cash to fund that illegal war, Well, it was 420 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 5: Southern Air Transport, a CI proprietary airline. In nineteen ninety four, 421 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 5: Jeffrey Epstein negotiates the transfer of Southern Air Transport, that 422 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 5: very CI proprietary airline, to move from Miami where it 423 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 5: was doing Iran Contra work to Columbus, Ohio, where Jeffrey 424 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 5: Epstein was given a giant townhouse, and that was where 425 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 5: the limited was headquartered. The Southern air Transport, the CIA 426 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 5: Airline moved directly to Columbus, specifically to service Jeffrey Epstein's company, 427 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 5: or at least the company he had durable power of 428 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 5: attorney over. When Jeffrey Epstein bought Little Saint James and 429 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 5: all of this property in the US Virgin Islands, that 430 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 5: was also one of the seat of operations for a 431 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 5: Southern air Transport, the CIA Airline. Because the money laundering 432 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 5: funnel for Iran Contra started in the US Virgin Islands 433 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 5: before it was pushed out to Swiss and Panamanian bank accounts. 434 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 5: You have this whole network. I mean, I could go 435 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 5: on forever about this, but the fact is we have 436 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 5: an ode and I push right now to try to 437 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 5: tell the underside of the iceberg of what has been 438 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 5: very visible American history from the JFK files to the 439 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 5: Martin Luther King files. And I don't think that we 440 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 5: should limit odeonized classifications to the twentieth century. Now, obviously, 441 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 5: what Tulsi has been doing has been completely fantastic around 442 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 5: Russia Gate. She has run lapse and is stunting on 443 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 5: the Durham investigation, which was completely tepid. Tulsi has done 444 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 5: more in just a few months than Durham appeared to 445 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 5: have done in his whole lifetime in terms of investigative 446 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 5: research of intelligence files and including them in Justice Department referrals. 447 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 5: But the fact is that Martin Luther King story isn't 448 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 5: it has very strange intelligence adjacencies, just like the JFK one. 449 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 5: I mean, had we had the CIA ties to the 450 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 5: JFK assassination on the front page A one headlines of 451 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 5: the Washington Post just a week and a half ago 452 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 5: with the Joe Needy story. 453 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 6: Telsey just put out. 454 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 5: Two hundred and thirty thousand files on Martin Luther King, 455 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 5: which again is also these very strange intelligence links from 456 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 5: Martin Luther King being shot and falling into the arms 457 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 5: of a guy who he thought it was his friend 458 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 5: and bodyguard but turned out to be and undercover CIA. 459 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 2: And Ben's I should add, we're going to be running 460 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 2: a special episode. We just had Margaret roberts On on 461 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: the new book about Oklahoma City. I have to get 462 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 2: you a copy of it, brother, And we're going to 463 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 2: be doing next week an entire deep dive on Oklahoma 464 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: City because. 465 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: This is what's so great. 466 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 2: And Ben's I'm going I'm going to need to get 467 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: you in my pillow, man, because I'm going to say 468 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: something that is going to make you lose sleep for 469 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 2: a week. 470 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: You know what. 471 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: Two names come up again and again in the Oklahoma 472 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 2: City Sorry, you know Merrick Garland is one is one, 473 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 2: but the other one is Eric Holder. It's Garland and 474 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: Holder all over this thing. And they both got. 475 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 5: Yes, they got their start in pat con. 476 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 6: They got their stars. 477 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: All all Patriot conspiracy. This was an operation Elaheim City. 478 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: And what do they do. 479 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: They set up fake right wing race militias to try 480 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: to entrap citizens and one of those operations went wrong. Mike, 481 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 2: can we hold you over for a little bit because 482 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: we have a break right now. 483 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: President Trump apparently. 484 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: Just addressed Epstein yet again, and I want to play that. 485 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: Audio for you and get your quick reaction if you 486 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: can hold over the break. This is huge. 487 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 2: This is coming straight from Mayor Force one, folks, President 488 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: Trump talking about Epstein. While we are talking about Epstein, 489 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 2: Real America's voice breaking news don't turn the dial. 490 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 6: Where's Jack? Where's Jack? Where is Jack? I want to 491 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 6: see you. 492 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 8: Great job Jack, Thank you, what the job you do? 493 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 7: You know, we have an incredible thinking. We're always talking 494 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 7: about the fake news and demand, but we have guys, 495 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 7: and these are the guys who are forgetting. 496 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 2: Polician all right, Jack for some big back live here 497 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: at Human Events Daily, Folks. 498 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: I want to get right to this President. 499 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 2: As we were speaking just minutes ago, President Trump, they're 500 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 2: live on air. Force One has been bringing up Jeffrey 501 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 2: Epstein and Glaine Maxwell. Yet again, we're going to play 502 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 2: his audio for you. I haven't even heard this yet. 503 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: We're going to play this right now. 504 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 8: Epstein has a certain reputation obviously. 505 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 6: I'm just curious. 506 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: Were some of the workers that were taken from you 507 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 2: were some of. 508 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 6: Them young women? Some of them were some of them 509 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 6: young women. 510 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 8: Well, I don't want to say, but everyone knows the 511 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 8: people that were taking and it was the concept of 512 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 8: taking people that work for me as man. But that 513 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 8: story has been pretty well out there and the answer 514 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 8: is yes, we were. Yeah in the spot. Yeah, people 515 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 8: that work in the spy a great spat, one of 516 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 8: the best spas in the world at Marlacca and people 517 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 8: would take it out of the SPA hired by him, 518 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 8: in other words, gone, and other people would come and complain, 519 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 8: this guy is taking people from the spot. 520 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 6: I didn't know that. And then when I heard about it. 521 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 8: I told him, I said, listen, we don't want you 522 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 8: taking our people, whether it was SPA or not SPA, 523 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 8: I don't want him taking people. And he was fine. 524 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 8: And then not too long after that he did it again, 525 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 8: and I said, out of here. 526 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: I have stolen you know, persons that include Virginia Jeffrey. 527 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 8: I don't know. 528 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: I think you worked at the spot. 529 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 8: I think so. I think that was. 530 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 6: One of the people with him. He stole her. 531 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 8: And by the way that she had no complaints about us, 532 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 8: as you know, done whatsoever. 533 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 6: We see her. 534 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: As there you go. 535 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: Moments ago, President Trump knew that Epstein was doing this 536 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: recruiting and Gallaine Maxwell. We know Gallaine Maxwell was the 537 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: one who approached Virginia Giffrey there. 538 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: At the spot. 539 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: That may be why President Trump answered the way he did, 540 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: because it was actually Maxwell who recruited Virginia Giffray. Mike 541 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: Brn Mike Ben's gets your initial reaction to that. 542 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 6: It makes sense. I mean, the timing lines up. 543 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 5: We talked about the fact that Epstein was hanging around 544 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 5: mar Lago and the like in the nineteen nineties. They 545 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 5: ran through somewhat similar circles in terms of the kind 546 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 5: of republican this pre nineteen ninety three Epstein was more 547 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,239 Speaker 5: Republican story than a Democrat story. And it looked like 548 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 5: Epstein was handling money for folks who were involved in 549 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 5: Ronald Reagan foreign policy, which seems which was a big 550 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 5: early network of Donald Trump as well. But the fact 551 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 5: to me is we do need to get answers on 552 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 5: this intelligence side. I just feel like the clock is 553 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 5: ticking on this. The Justice Department will be much better 554 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 5: prepared to ask questions of Kleine Maxwell when they themselves 555 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 5: have the answer. And I'm happy to see this forward motion, 556 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 5: but it is a little bit infuriating that you have 557 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 5: this kind of Some of these things are easy to 558 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 5: get answers to, and the fact that they're leaving that 559 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 5: part of the equation out. I don't really care about 560 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 5: the client list if I don't have an answer about 561 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 5: why the client list matters. 562 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 6: Was there were there intelligence touch points to this? 563 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 5: Is that why the client list was protected for so long? 564 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 5: Is that why the network was protected for so long? 565 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 5: I feel like we're never going to get a full 566 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 5: answer on this, and there's going to be a limited 567 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 5: hangout of some fashion. But can you can we ask 568 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 5: the Justice Department to make it a little bit less 569 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 5: limited than the direction it's steering in. What did the 570 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 5: CIA tell the Justice Department when they end? 571 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: I feel you, man, where can people go to follow 572 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: your brother? 573 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 5: Follow me on X on YouTube, on rumble, it's all 574 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 5: at Mike bens Cyber. I think that Ed Martin should 575 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 5: be the lead on this from the weaponization soars the 576 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 5: DJ that way, Pampa right there and have to run 577 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 5: the whole thing yourself. 578 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is right there. I think it's perfect. Bence, 579 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for that. President Trump. Now I 580 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: want to go through there's some more that has been 581 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: coming out. He's doing this press gaggle. As we said 582 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: on Air Force one, just released a new ultimatum on Russia. 583 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: We're going to play that for you right now. 584 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 9: Thank you. 585 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 5: Ten to twelve days. 586 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: Is that has it started yet or when can we 587 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: you know, see the official statement. 588 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 5: That that is that? 589 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 8: Joy what I'll give it you now do you want 590 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 8: a big scoop? Yes, everybody else slows your ears. Okay, 591 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 8: you ready, I'm ready. Ten days from today? 592 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 5: Got it? 593 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 8: Okay, got it? But we have a scoop and then 594 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 8: you know, we're gonna put it on tariffson something. I 595 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 8: don't know if it's going to affect Russia because he 596 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 8: wants to obviously probably keep the war going. But we're 597 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 8: gonna put it on tariffs, and the various things that 598 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 8: you put on it may or may not affect them. 599 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: So he actually limited it an extra day. 600 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 4: Remember yesterday he said twelve days, ten to twelve days, 601 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 4: and now he's saying ten days from today, so that 602 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 4: means it's an eleven day thing. 603 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: The tariffs, by the way, would mainly be on those 604 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: who do all right, guys. 605 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 2: So that's that's the end of prison Trump's comments there, 606 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 2: Prison Trump talking It sounds like economic sanctions and or 607 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: tariffs is what he's implying there regarding Russia. Ten days, 608 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: just ten days from today. And this is this is 609 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: huge because he has not talked about this yet. We've 610 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: actually got from Human Events dot Com was a new 611 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 2: column up there. Doctor Shape Bradley Farrell is joining US Uh, 612 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: doctor Bradley Farrell, can I get your You've written this 613 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: huge column all about foreign policy at human events dot com. 614 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 2: Everyone needs to go read it, But can I get 615 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: your initial reaction and read on President Trump? 616 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: There the ten day deadline? 617 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, Jack, you know what, this has potential to be 618 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 9: big and to bring Russia to sneeze finally. And the 619 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 9: reason I say this is Trump has hinted at putting 620 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 9: one hundred percent tariffs on countries that are buying Russian energy, 621 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 9: and Russian energy, I believe is Russia's biggest source of income. 622 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 9: In fact, Russia used on energy against Europe once they 623 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 9: put energy sanctions on Russia at the beginning of the 624 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 9: Ukraine War. 625 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: Well, Russia turned that right around. 626 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 9: On them, you know, cut the amount of energy down 627 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 9: that they were supplying Europe, which drove Europe's prices high 628 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 9: and really has put the economy in decline. And this 629 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 9: was something that Trump told Europe not to do, if 630 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 9: you will remember that, not to rely on Russian energy. 631 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 9: If you remember, the Germans left at President Trump at 632 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 9: the United Nations in the first administration. 633 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: But anyway, Russian oil and gas is a big. 634 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 9: Deal to them, and we have seen that President Trump 635 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 9: has been extremely successful in putting American interest back at 636 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 9: the heart of foreign diplomacy. 637 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: Well, and this has been as a leverage tool. 638 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 2: And this has been so this isn't I want to 639 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 2: read everyone. The headline is what we're planning to talk 640 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: about today. Under Trump foreign pol is a return to 641 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 2: sovereignty for the United States and global nations. So walk 642 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 2: us through your theory of the case for Trump's foreign policy, 643 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 2: perhaps the trunk doctor. 644 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, Jack, you know what's really cool is that Trump 645 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 9: is actually crushing the status quo of the US foreign 646 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 9: policy establishment the way we've been doing it for decades 647 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 9: since the end of World War Two, changing the economics 648 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 9: system globally, changing the political system. And it's very big 649 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 9: that we have taken a sovereignty turn under trust foreign 650 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 9: policy because it is in direct opposition to the globalist agenda. 651 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 9: So the leadership of the European Union, the United Nations, 652 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 9: and other international organizations. And what is really interesting about it, Jack, 653 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 9: is Trump is protecting our sovereignty. 654 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 1: We see that with. 655 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 9: Him closing borders, getting us out of these international organizations 656 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 9: that are not in our benefit. But also at his heart, 657 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 9: he wants to protect the sovereignty of other countries. He 658 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 9: spoke about this in our first administration, but if you 659 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 9: look at the second one, he is really putting action 660 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 9: into it. He reduced the US Agency for International Development 661 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 9: it's funding to about eighteen percent of what it was. 662 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 9: And you know, during the Obama administration, I had done 663 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 9: some research. I was actually an international development professional, and 664 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,479 Speaker 9: I uncovered through my research that we had all these 665 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 9: corrupt programs that taxpayers were paying for that were interfering 666 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 9: in political systems of other countries, that were promoting the 667 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 9: sexual orientation gender identity, like curriculum to school kids and 668 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 9: developing countries, like with scales where you could measure how 669 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 9: you felt sexually that day or how you felt in 670 00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 9: your gender that day. This is what we were paying 671 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 9: the USA to do in other countries. 672 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 1: And Trump said no, and I am with this Jack. 673 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 9: I had at that time, religious leaders from Africa, members 674 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 9: of parliament, from European countries, leaders of all types coming 675 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 9: to me and saying, your country, your FOURGN eight is 676 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 9: trampling on our sovereignty, our religion, our culture. Can you 677 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 9: please help us? So that is now what the Trump 678 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 9: administration is doing, and it improves our public image around 679 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 9: the world. 680 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: And that's what it comes down to. 681 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 2: It's if we're pushing this insane nonsense through USAID and 682 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 2: I support the work so much of cutting those programs. 683 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 2: Still a lot more cutting that needs to go on, 684 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 2: according to my sources at State Department. We write back Jackrosobic, 685 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 2: Human Events Daily, Real emerch Voice. 686 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: Jack is a great guy. Everybody's talking about it. 687 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 8: You'll get it from the beginning of this whole and 688 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 8: we're going to turn it around. 689 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 2: All right, Jack Pasovic, We're on back Live. We're talking 690 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 2: about President Trump and how he's really leading this push 691 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 2: for I love the way that doctor sha Bradley Farrell 692 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 2: has put this and we've got her new column up 693 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 2: at human events dot com. Sovereigntists and this idea of 694 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 2: because yeah, you could say America first, but then of 695 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 2: course the problem is how do you align that with 696 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 2: you know, other countries that have our goal and the 697 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 2: goal is what is the opposite of globalism with the 698 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 2: opposite opposite of globalism is sovereignty. So doctor Shay walk 699 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 2: us through some of this. Because you mentioned in your 700 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 2: piece Hungary. Obviously you and you and I were in 701 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: Hungry a number of seatback Hungary's I was just at seapack, Paul. 702 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 2: I'm actually going to be returning to Poland for the 703 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 2: inauguration in just about one week. And really these are 704 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 2: all Victor Orbon and Nobrotski, the new Polish president. They 705 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 2: won because they stand for the sovereignty of their countries. 706 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 2: Oh guys, think there might be an audio issue there? 707 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 2: Can we can we see what's. 708 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: Going on with that? Can you hear me? 709 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 8: Oh? 710 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: Wait, there it is, doctor sav I thought. 711 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 9: I apologize, but I was saying you were absolutely right 712 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 9: that I have seen a rise in nationalism, not just 713 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 9: in governments around the world, but in the population. I mean, 714 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 9: you're talking about the president and Poland that was just 715 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 9: narrowly elected in opposition really to the stance of the 716 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 9: prime minister. That's a great win. The Freedom Party in 717 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,720 Speaker 9: Austria has increased greatly in the number of boats and support. 718 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 9: It has the AfD Party in Germany. All of these 719 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 9: are conservative parties focused on protecting the sovereignty of the 720 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 9: nation state and it's directly opposed, like you just said, 721 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 9: to the globalist agenda, to the leadership of the European 722 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 9: Union and of the United Nations and of these other 723 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 9: international organizations. 724 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 2: And so what President Trump has done in terms of 725 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 2: laying out this new form, this has really broken the 726 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 2: back of the idea that we had before, of this 727 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 2: international liberalism that was really pushed by. 728 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: First Obama and then Biden. 729 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, you are absolutely right about that, and our allies 730 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 9: are very excited and encouraged by this. You and I 731 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 9: just saw each other at Seapac, Hungary about a month ago. 732 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 9: And before that, but I had done a five city 733 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,760 Speaker 9: book tour on a book that I read about Hungary 734 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 9: called Last Morning to the West. It's actually a book 735 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,439 Speaker 9: for Americans to warrant us about the Marxism that has 736 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 9: crept in to the United States and the West. But 737 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 9: in that book tour, Jack, I talked to hundreds of 738 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 9: people that were so encouraged that President Trump was in leadership. 739 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,439 Speaker 9: There was a real leader of the United States now 740 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 9: that was not bent on trampling on their sovereignty, pushing 741 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 9: ideologies and programs and political interference into their countries. Because Jack, 742 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 9: as you know, Europe also is really dealing with this. 743 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: They are under. 744 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 9: Attack with law fare, their freedom of speech is under attack. 745 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 9: You look at Germany. I just talked to a member 746 00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 9: of the AfD party who his home was raided because 747 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 9: he had the audacity to actually criticize a political leader. 748 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 1: So if you post something. 749 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 9: Like that, criticizing a political leader in Germany on x 750 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 9: it can get your home rated and you jailed. So 751 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 9: they're having a lot of problems. But there's a lot 752 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 9: of conservatives that I joined with us, as you well know, 753 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 9: and we need to stand together because I think the 754 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 9: Trump administration is a fantastic time for us to defeat 755 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 9: the globalist agenda together. 756 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more, Doctor Shay. 757 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 2: Where can people go to get access to your new 758 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 2: article and volume. 759 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 9: Well, go to Human Events of course, Jack, I am 760 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 9: a regular columnist now and I'm very proud of that. 761 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 9: Human Events is such a great media outlet because it 762 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 9: tells the truth and you can find out about what 763 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 9: we do at Counterpoint Institute dot org or follow me 764 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 9: on at set. 765 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: At Doctor sha Underscore DC. Thank you, Jack, I appreciate 766 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: what you do. Thank you so much, Doctor Jay. 767 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 2: God bless folks when we hear President Trump now. And 768 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 2: we've talked before about this issue, and really going back 769 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 2: to what we talked about the beginning of the story, 770 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 2: we're really talking about commander's desired end state and the 771 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 2: commander's desired end state. He's the commander in chief, the 772 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 2: commander of the entire US foreign policy, and the commander. 773 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: Of obviously US armed forces. The idea should be. 774 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 2: And President Trump has said over and over that he 775 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,280 Speaker 2: wants to end these wars. Now, the question, of course 776 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 2: for Russia is and I've said this over and over 777 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 2: and over, and I'm going to bring up something that 778 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 2: perhaps nobody has mentioned yet when it comes to this, 779 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 2: but could it be that President Trump is pushing harder 780 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 2: for an early end or an early deal with Russia. 781 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 2: And what do we talk about yesterday? A potential in 782 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 2: pending collapse in Ukraine, not just of the military front, 783 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 2: but what we're also seeing is a deteriorating political position. 784 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 2: And we had Dan Caldwell, former Trump DoD official, on 785 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 2: to talk about this. And now Zelensky bases a deteriorating 786 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 2: political position in Kiev, a city where he's currently in 787 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 2: we'll see if he makes it to London by Christmas time, 788 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 2: and a potential military collapse where the stakes couldn't be higher. 789 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 2: And President Trump certainly doesn't want to see scenes out 790 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,240 Speaker 2: of Ukraine that looked like Afghanistan during that collapse of Kabble, 791 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 2: the fall of Kabble, and so perhaps it could be 792 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,320 Speaker 2: that they're looking very hard to freeze that conflict prior 793 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 2: to this, and that could be why he's ratcheting this up. Remember, 794 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 2: President Trumps, We've got access to intelligence and sources and 795 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 2: information that's out there. Absolutely, we have translators. I have 796 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 2: an in house translator for a variety of places of 797 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 2: the world. But at the same time, we have nowhere 798 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 2: near the level of intelligence that President Trump has and 799 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 2: briefing that President Trump has on all of these issues, 800 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 2: whether it be Israel, Gaza, whether it be East Asia 801 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 2: and the Chinese Communist Party, and certainly here with Russia Ukraine. 802 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 2: And so is President Trump trying to shut this down 803 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 2: because he's worried about a potential collapse in Ukraine. And 804 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 2: that's exactly what we've been talking about for weeks at 805 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 2: this point, that the Russians would be looking for the 806 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 2: end of July, and we are now in that end 807 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 2: of July to push out beyond those well defended Eastern 808 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 2: Russian speaking provinces, those cities that are now currently being enveloped. 809 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 2: And what we're now seeing is this big push where 810 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 2: the Russians are pinching those and what do we talk 811 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 2: about with Dan Calwold. 812 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: Yesterday, the supply lines. 813 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 2: If you cut the supply lines of an army, then 814 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 2: you have effectively ended and neutralized that army's ability to 815 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 2: make war. 816 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 1: And if you do so and the. 817 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 2: Vast majority of those forces are forward rather than in 818 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 2: more defensible rear positions where you're shortening your supply lines, 819 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,439 Speaker 2: than the question really is what comes next. What would 820 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 2: come next is a collapse. So that's certainly an angle 821 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 2: of all of this. I do think as well that 822 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 2: President Trump is, of course, as he says, very disturbed 823 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 2: by what he sees on television, by the information and 824 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 2: intelligence that is being provided to him as well, the 825 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 2: conditions and the gods at refugee camps, the conditions on 826 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 2: the ground in Ukraine, the body bags, the people dying, 827 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 2: and the civilians, which I've been talking about now here 828 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 2: in human events daily, but three years straight when it 829 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 2: comes to Ukraine, after having visited Odessa and particularly nikolaiav 830 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 2: seeing people who live within harm's way, where people who 831 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,919 Speaker 2: live close to the front, in cities that are being 832 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,240 Speaker 2: bombed day after day, just visit we have again back 833 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 2: in February with Secretary Besson, and we saw buildings that 834 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 2: had been hit. In fact, there was a bombing the 835 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 2: day that we arrived at drone attack. People are being 836 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 2: caught in the middle as the empires rumble, and it 837 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 2: is a noble goal, a truly noble goal for President 838 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 2: Trump and for the world put an end to these conflicts, 839 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 2: to seek a peaceable solution and to help the civilians, 840 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 2: while still understanding that you're never going to get to 841 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:36,240 Speaker 2: a true peace or an actual truce and understanding around 842 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 2: the world until you have direct conversations between those world leaders. 843 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 2: And that's what it's going to take. Absolutely when it 844 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 2: comes to Russia, ladies and gentlemen. As always, you have 845 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 2: my permission. 846 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: Eleiah Shore